Asus A8N32-SLI initial impression....WOW!

[Zeus...]

Which Nforce/Geforce drivers r u guys using ATM?

[CODE 4]

1,4 vcore. My problem occured after i installed the xp120 cooler. Before that ,my mobo temps were below 30. I don't understand what went wrong...
Reseat your Heatsink. You may not be making good enuff contact. Also reapply you Thermal grease lightly to the CPU and the heatsink (at contact points). I have found that helps me get a better bonded surface area btw cpu/hs. GL

[CODE 4]

Which Nforce/Geforce drivers r u guys using ATM?
6.85 here

[quantum]

Reseat your Heatsink. You may not be making good enuff contact. Also reapply you Thermal grease lightly to the CPU and the heatsink (at contact points). I have found that helps me get a better bonded surface area btw cpu/hs. GL

I'll be back... :)

[Zeus...]

6.85 here

thats what I have just installed (freash OS 'XP' day) and I am have issues when I install the Geforce driver 81.98 with or without the IDE driver -

Installs the gefoce driver fine then fails on reboot to enter windows (BSOD):confused:

what driver u using for your evge 7800gt (u got an SLi setup there?)

[CODE 4]

thats what I have just installed (freash OS 'XP' day) and I am have issues when I install the Geforce driver 81.98 with or without the IDE driver -

Installs the gefoce driver fine then fails on reboot to enter windows (BSOD):confused:
Hmm.. something is going on with your install or hardware conflict because I am running the same with no problems what so ever. I know there are peeps out there with this same problem do some looking and see what you come up with.
**anyone have any ideas for this guy??

[CODE 4]

Zeus...try disable Nview in the start..run..msconfig..startup system config utility. I found one guy that had your problem and that fixed him.

[Zeus...]

Zeus...try disable Nview in the start..run..msconfig..startup system config utility. I found one guy that had your problem and that fixed him.

Thanks for the 'heads up' will give that a go :toast:

[CODE 4]

Also try this:

"Run Driver Cleaner 3 to remove stubborn registry, inf, dll (BSOD), etc..This is really big difference over install exsits will create more problems with old driver and new driver mixed together.

DO clean on Nvidia, then Drivers.cab then SP2.cab then close.

Install new drivers then restart to windows"

[Zeus...]

Zeus...try disable Nview in the start..run..msconfig..startup system config utility. I found one guy that had your problem and that fixed him.

stoped and Disabled the 'Nvidia display driver sevice' and it installed np

But the 'Nvidia display driver service' has started again and is back on auto :confused:

will reboot and C what happens

Edit stopped the service after install but b4 reboot

[Zeus...]

Well what ever it was, disabling the service after installing the Geforce driver 81.98 but B4 rebooting to install the new driver seems to have sorted it out

the service is running an no issues ATM :)

[CODE 4]

Well what ever it was, disabling the service after installing the Geforce driver 81.98 but B4 rebooting to install the new driver seems to have sorted it out

the service is running an no issues ATM :)
Kewl. Happy Dual Core, dual Vid gaming!!!!

[Zeus...]

Kewl. Happy Dual Core, dual Vid gaming!!!!

with all the installs to do and the list of jobs to do of the 'Wife' I will be lucky to play 'Minesweeper' today never mine BF2/UT2004/Farcry :slapass:

[CODE 4]

with all the installs to do and the list of jobs to do of the 'Wife' I will be lucky to play 'Minesweeper' today never mine BF2/UT2004/Farcry :slapass:
LOL. I feel your pain. All this rig and so little time :D My wife thinks it's "just a computer" How oh how do I convey the importance of this majical electronic men killing wonder box??? Later and GL....

[-aDaM^]

thats one hawt motherboard :toast:

[bobov]

1,4 vcore. My problem occured after i installed the xp120 cooler. Before that ,my mobo temps were below 30. I don't understand what went wrong...

Changing my XP-120 to SI-120 lower my MB temp 6-8C. Don't know why.

[Zeus...]

Bios 1103 showing on ASUS website (UK)

A8N32-SLI Deluxe Bios version 1103
1- Support VCT Function for both LAN.
2- Show pink and red color when oversetting Dram voltage.
3- Fixed System show wrong Memory Installed Size when Enable Memory Hole Function.
4- Update AI Booster Code to improve overclocking ability.

here (http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us) and a few clicks

[bobov]

I'm still using 0903 BIOS. No need to upgrade to 1103.

[RMSwins]

Nice, nice. Is it 0550UPMW?

0530TPMW. Bought around 7pm on 12/21/05 from Monarch.

[safan80]

I'll be back... :)

did you notice any change?

[quantum]

did you notice any change?

I was gone during weekend. I'll try smth tomorrow. I'll be back...

[AeroSquid]

Thanks for the heads up Zeus... has anyone tried Bios 1103 yet? I'm still running 0903 without any real issues and my last BIOS update on this board was an ordeal so i don't want to do it if it's not improving anything.

[Ic3man]

No problems running the new bios. Flashed using Alt+F2..worked like a charm. I have noticed a drop in the 12v rail (read 11.65) though since loading this bios...weird.

[Zeus...]

No problems here with bios 1103 but did -

New Install of XP
New Nforce driver update
New Geforce driver update

All at the same time and system is only at STD (CnQ)(except GPU) ATM
Getting all software on and backed up B4 running to the overclock

[Zeus...]

What Backup software R u guys using with a raid 0 array ?

(As the software I got with my external maxtor drive doesn't like the raid 0 array and fails to work :slapass: )

And - Does it allow u to Boot from the backup or do u have to reinstall XP first?

[CODE 4]

What Backup software R u guys using with a raid 0 array ?

(As the software I got with my external maxtor drive doesn't like the raid 0 array and fails to work :slapass: )

And - Does it allow u to Boot from the backup or do u have to reinstall XP first?
I use a software program called ViceVersus Pro. It is a simple replication tool that I back my important stuff up to a back up external drive. It runs every night and takes my docs and files from the raid to a backup.
I have yet to find anything that for sure works and will backup/restore a raid 0 bootable drive. If anyone knows of one please post.

[ranger]

I have been reading the forum thread since it was on page 20..and have read every single post on it. I always check back here to see what new and interesting stuff we have found out about our motherboard. But now I have a problem.

I have my system at 2500mhz right now, FSB is 250, Hyper Transport Mult is 3x, and it has been running stable for 1 1/2 months now. I have rev 1.01 of the board. My Vcore is set at 1.4. Running 2 gigs of the Corsair ram recommended for the motherboard. Running bios 0903

When I put the system in Standby(S3), and wake the system up, I loose all my overclock settings. AIBoost, CPUz, all report my system speed back at stock of 2000mhz. My vcore is still at 1.4, but the FSB goes back to stock. Now If I hybernate or S1 standby, it works. But I need S3 standby, so that the Power supply is off (S1 doesn't do this), and I need to be able to Wake On Lan (hybernate doesn't do this). I have to reboot the system (not go into the bios or anything, just reboot) to get the settings back. Makes the Suspend kinda pointless if you have to reboot after every wakeup.

I have verfied this bug with a friend of mine who has the same motherboard. Do any of you guys know what the problem is, and if it is something we can fix? He's running bios 1009.

Thanks in advance! Bunch of great people here.

Ranger

[tommrussell]

acronis true image its quick and easy to use and you can do the typical scheduling with it plus it has saved my butt on more than one occasion and never has it failed me

they seem to update the proggy fairly often from their web site i like that

thats about all i can say about it
tom

[CODE 4]

acronis true image its quick and easy to use and you can do the typical scheduling with it plus it has saved my butt on more than one occasion and never has it failed me

they seem to update the proggy fairly often from their web site i like that

thats about all i can say about it
tom
I just got it to test it out. Do you know if I can use it to mirror my raid 0 to two new drives and will they be bootable? I have feelers out for a couple raptors and I would like to know if I can be lazy and not have to reload all my crap:toast:

[toan67]

I am desperate....:(

My system is with A8N32SLIDLX, SANDY3700,Zalman9500,2x512mb geilOneW(BH cl1,5) raptor36gb,2xXFX7800GTXxxxedition(SLI),enermaxnois etaker600W.
After I install all my pcs, I power on and ..... nothing, black screen ! So I uninstalled one vga but again zero, than one ram and after that Monitor switch on with message "bad checksum bios". I tried to flash with Alt+f2 the bios with 1103 version (1109 was in the chip as written on it) so erasing.... writing.... finisahed pls power off and switch on.. I did but... ZERO ! again black screen. So I tried many times but same result: I erase, I write new bios well renamed A8N32SLI.rom power off.power on but... zero black screen ! What shall I do ? really I don't know how to proceed ( I alreadyuse clear cmos).
Tahnk yo for yr help.
ciao
andrea
:(

[Cybertronic]

Does the BIOS recovery come up?

Have you tried flashing it to an older BIOS?

If not fixable then I had a similar problem which had to be fixed by hotflashing :(

[toan67]

Does the BIOS recovery come up?

Have you tried flashing it to an older BIOS?

If not fixable then I had a similar problem which had to be fixed by hotflashing :(
Sorry but i'm sot sure I have well understood.
Bios recovery come up what you mean ? JUst for yr info I deal alt+f2, insert floppy with A8N32SLI.rom the pc is reading the file, after that erasing, than writing, A new line say : ok pls power off and switch on: I do but... black screen !!! Nothing it happened !!!.
I didn't with older bios : is better ?
I cannot hotflash I don't have same motherboard to do it .
What can I do ?

thank you......:(

[quantum]

Can you tell me where is the mobo temp sensor ? Thank you.
Still no positive results...

[shogan191]

the motherboard cd has a bios and recovery program on it. Place cd into computer and boot to the motherboard cd.

[SlackerXL]

I am desperate....:(

My system is with A8N32SLIDLX, SANDY3700,Zalman9500,2x512mb geilOneW(BH cl1,5) raptor36gb,2xXFX7800GTXxxxedition(SLI),enermaxnois etaker600W.
After I install all my pcs, I power on and ..... nothing, black screen ! So I uninstalled one vga but again zero, than one ram and after that Monitor switch on with message "bad checksum bios". I tried to flash with Alt+f2 the bios with 1103 version (1109 was in the chip as written on it) so erasing.... writing.... finisahed pls power off and switch on.. I did but... ZERO ! again black screen. So I tried many times but same result: I erase, I write new bios well renamed A8N32SLI.rom power off.power on but... zero black screen ! What shall I do ? really I don't know how to proceed ( I alreadyuse clear cmos).
Tahnk yo for yr help.
ciao
andrea
:(



must be your lucky day...

i had this exact problem two days ago
all it needed was a cmos reset and full system shutdown for about 5minutes...

before i realized that i even hotflashed the bios from another A8N32SLI mobo!
changed several floppy drives
tried dos 6.22 boot disk and afudos
and many other spirit crushing procedures...
but no go...

hope it works for you too..

[Zeus...]

acronis true image its quick and easy to use and you can do the typical scheduling with it plus it has saved my butt on more than one occasion and never has it failed me

they seem to update the proggy fairly often from their web site i like that

thats about all i can say about it
tom


Sounds good http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/features-imaging.html but it doesn't mention Raid support in Data sheet

[Ic3man]

I am desperate....:(

My system is with A8N32SLIDLX, SANDY3700,Zalman9500,2x512mb geilOneW(BH cl1,5) raptor36gb,2xXFX7800GTXxxxedition(SLI),enermaxnois etaker600W.
After I install all my pcs, I power on and ..... nothing, black screen ! So I uninstalled one vga but again zero, than one ram and after that Monitor switch on with message "bad checksum bios". I tried to flash with Alt+f2 the bios with 1103 version (1109 was in the chip as written on it) so erasing.... writing.... finisahed pls power off and switch on.. I did but... ZERO ! again black screen. So I tried many times but same result: I erase, I write new bios well renamed A8N32SLI.rom power off.power on but... zero black screen ! What shall I do ? really I don't know how to proceed ( I alreadyuse clear cmos).
Tahnk yo for yr help.
ciao
andrea
:(


Do you have both a 24pin atx power supply AND the 4 pin 12v atx power cord plugged in? And have you plugged in the molex connector (EZ plug) onto the board? Try using just 1 graphics card until you get the system up and running.

[CODE 4]

Sounds good http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/features-imaging.html but it doesn't mention Raid support in Data sheet
Yes I took a look at that too, however I D/L the proggy and it seems to work. I am able to view each partition and it allowed me to mirrror back My C of my Raid 0 to another Raid Drive. I am not able right now to try to make a full transfer as I have data on my other RAID 0. I will be in few days and will report back then.

[Zeus...]

Yes I took a look at that too, however I D/L the proggy and it seems to work. I am able to view each partition and it allowed me to mirrror back My C of my Raid 0 to another Raid Drive. I am not able right now to try to make a full transfer as I have data on my other RAID 0. I will be in few days and will report back then.


Thanks for that 'Code 4' like the idea of being able to clone a drive too and boot from it - keep us updated on how it goes

Having the kitchen done at home (work starts tomorrow) so PC time down this week :(

[CODE 4]

Thanks for that 'Code 4' like the idea of being able to clone a drive too and boot from it - keep us updated on how it goes

Having the kitchen done at home (work starts tomorrow) so PC time down this week :(
I will and GL on the kitchen. Just did mine in July all by myself. I found out that Granite is some Heavy Shizznot!!!! I will post when I have more info.

[Zeus...]

I will and GL on the kitchen. Just did mine in July all by myself. I found out that Granite is some Heavy Shizznot!!!! I will post when I have more info.

Granite is some Heavy 'On the WALLET' but I get my PC update ever year

Just sent a presales support request of to Acronis

Quote

re -Acronis True Image Home 9.0

looking for a backup solution and your product has been advised to me.
But on looking at the data sheet it doesn't mention Sata II and Raid drives

whats the support on theses?
(System Specs)

Unquote

See what comes back after all 50Dollars is 28Pounds after all :D

[Schtuzer]

Did you double check to make sure EEC is disabled? That was the source of the warm boot issues I had. The board defaults to EEC enabled, after every optimized default reset you have to go and disable it.

Guys, can you epxlain what EEC is? My friend whom i recommended this mobo, is now stuck with warm boot issue (no post, just monitor blinking).

Used latest 1103 and 1009 bios - nothing helps...

[mussadek]

Hi all

Please I am new; I need help to overclock my system

I got
Asus A8N32 + FX60CPU+ 2 GB ram Pc4800TCCD DDR-600MHz + 2x7800GTX 256mb

I want to know what is the best setting for this motherboard( BIOS ) and how I can setup PC4800 Ram to 600mhz
Thanks


PS: sorry for my English

[no_n|ck]

Strange thing happend to me too. When i was using single-core opteron (146), i didn't know what warm boot is. But now, when i had switched to dual-core opteron i'm getting warm boot when i restrat the computer or when i'm leaving the bios and computer restarts, the monitor just switched out, but computer is still going on. I need to turn the PSU off/on and turn the pc on again to boot normaly. The warm boot not apears when i'm turning the computer on, only on restarats:confused:
I had also updated bios from 1009 to 1103 with no luck. I'm out of ideas what to do??

[Zeus...]

Guys, can you epxlain what EEC is? My friend whom i recommended this mobo, is now stuck with warm boot issue (no post, just monitor blinking).

Used latest 1103 and 1009 bios - nothing helps...

think it refers to ECC mem but could be wrong !

Have u tried 'load setup defaults' and Cleared the CMOS ?

I know the CMOS jumper is in a bad place (made a jumper for mine with some wire and block connetors so I dont have to take my SLI setup appart evertime)

[Schtuzer]

think it refers to ECC mem but could be wrong !

Have u tried 'load setup defaults' and Cleared the CMOS ?

I know the CMOS jumper is in a bad place (made a jumper for mine with some wire and block connetors so I dont have to take my SLI setup appart evertime)

Seems that EEC was meant to be other than ECC mem, the latter one settings turned off in bios by default.

I tried CMOS jumper already - still no luck. I wonder what else could be the reason for warm restart issue. Single time it was nice working 2800Mhz and then we decided to turn off unneeded ports (midim game port etc.) and after the post does not start. Turning the ports on doesn't help either.

[toan67]

Does the BIOS recovery come up?

Have you tried flashing it to an older BIOS?

If not fixable then I had a similar problem which had to be fixed by hotflashing :(

MAGIC !!!! After many differents way to solve this problems suggested from deiffernts forum of the planet I also tried yr suggest to flash with an older bios and..... ta da !! ASUS A8N32 SLI DELUXE !!!! GO GO GO GO !!!
Thank you very much really, thank you very much !!!.
Now I have small problem... everytime I power on there is a message saying "cmos checksum bad, press F1 to run setup or press F2 to load default values and continue", but this message it happen everytime I power on my system (pressing F1 no change, reboot and again same question, F2 go, load XP but next starting same message... ??) Any idea ? I tried to format my raptor having different driver from previous system (DFI NF4 SLI, Nvidia SLI - now for the beginnign just one vga, but soon 2nd).
Why this message ?

thank you again for yr help.
ciao
ANdrea

[Marios]

Reset your BIOS using the jumper method.
(use search on this thread or your manual for more info on this)
Then load the original BIOS from your ASUS CD by pressing insert during post.
Enter BIOS and load setup defaults.
Flash the latest 1103 BIOS from a floppy or a USB key with afudos.
Enter BIOS and load setup defaults.
Restart.
In most cases the default values work OK.
You might want to enter the BIOS to dissable those devices you do not need or to configure a RAID.

Use the "search this thread" option
Most of the answers to your problems are here on this thread (including ECC error correction for your dimms and both cache settings) .
All you need to do is to use the "search this thread" option.
The DRAM ECC setting is only available when your DIMMS are ECC.
Otherwise it is dissabled.
The CPU cache ECC should be enabled. Just set a mid range value.

The S3 standby problem.
Resuming from Standby S3 works without problems, when not overclocked.
When I overclock with CnQ enabled, the FSB drops at 200 after resuming.
A restart solves this problem though.

[no_n|ck]

I tried to put everything on default, and my system restrats fine, but soon as i overclock, i can't restart normally - i must turn psu off/on and switch the cpu back on to boot normaly .. What to do??

[Marios]

Guys, can you epxlain what EEC is? My friend whom i recommended this mobo, is now stuck with warm boot issue (no post, just monitor blinking).

Used latest 1103 and 1009 bios - nothing helps...
Nothing helps?
You gave us no info at all about your rig.
Try "search this thread" with ECC, vdimm and DDR500.

[Marios]

I tried to put everything on default, and my system restrats fine, but soon as i overclock, i can't restart normally - i must turn psu off/on and switch the cpu back on to boot normaly .. What to do??
Try "search this thread" with "Marios tref CAS TRC TRRD"
or any other BIOS setting you want to configure.
Here is an example
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1264453&postcount=1211

[no_n|ck]

I just tried with these memeory setting, but when i restart from windows (or bios), my system will not boot. Its, strange, i tried with the default and then its restarting normaly. I also try to put fsb to 250 and even then restart normaly, but when i put the fsb to 300 it doesn't want to restrat - it hanges and i must turn the psu off/on .. i'm realy out of ideas, what could help me out?

[Marios]

FSB300 is too much.
Do you really need it?
Check your HTT multi and the memory limit (divider).

[no_n|ck]

FSB300 is too much.
Do you really need it?
Check your HTT multi and the memory limit (divider).

Why is too much? I had tested it to do 400, but with other chip. My multi is 10× and i'm using 166 ram divider - they run as specified .. But i read that a8n32 doesn't like samsung UCCC modules (my system also freez sometimes in windows), so i guess that with mine OCZ EB on the way this problem will go away - they should be here next week .. thanx for help

[Marios]

With your settings (10x300=3000, 300X3=900 HTT, 166 divider, CPU overvoltage and 2.8vdimm) your memory is overclocked at 230,77MHz.
You should be OK as long as your CPU is stable at 3000MHz.
I believe you need a stronger PSU though.

[no_n|ck]

yea my cpu is rock stable - no worries here .. ram is running at 250mhz (with 166 divider) .. i think that psu is enough powerful since i'm not running sli, and i only have one disk and one dvd rom + 4 vents - no other things .. it just bugs me that warm restrat:stick:

[Cybertronic]

I got my motherboard back from RMA 2 weeks ago, it had to be hotflash in ordered to be fixed :(

When I first booted it, I went into the BIOS to enable my RAID 0, after restarting, it looks like this:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/204/p2130002large6jk.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2130002large6jk.jpg)

Then a few minutes later..

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1185/p2130003large5ze.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2130003large5ze.jpg)

I've tried the following:

1. Resetting CMOS and also leaving it for a few minutes
2. Taking battery out for a few hours
3. Taking HDD's out
4. Using one stick of RAM
5. No DVD Drive
6. No soundcard

I could not get it to boot successfully :(, any ideas? :(

[Marios]

yea my cpu is rock stable - no worries here .. ram is running at 250mhz (with 166 divider) .. i think that psu is enough powerful since i'm not running sli, and i only have one disk and one dvd rom + 4 vents - no other things .. it just bugs me that warm restrat:stick:
What is a warm restart?
You mean you enter Windows and you get a restart or you get the restart while booting? You are unstable in both cases so find your stable overclocking limits for your mobo, your CPU and your Dimms the traditional way. Experiment with BIOS settings.

I got my motherboard back from RMA 2 weeks ago, it had to be hotflash in ordered to be fixed :(

When I first booted it, I went into the BIOS to enable my RAID 0, after restarting, it looks like this:

Then a few minutes later..

I've tried the following:

1. Resetting CMOS and also leaving it for a few minutes
2. Taking battery out for a few hours
3. Taking HDD's out
4. Using one stick of RAM
5. No DVD Drive
6. No soundcard

I could not get it to boot successfully :(, any ideas? :(
Hi again.
I hope this time you can make your system work.
It is not easy. There are so many little things you have to know.
I'll try to help.
These are my suggestions.
Reset your BIOS once again the right way this time.
(You did it the wrong way as I recall the last time and you got all sort of problems).

I have described in previous posts how to flash a new BIOS (with a bootable floppy or a USB key and AFUDOS only), how to use the insert key only in case of dissaster and only with a copy of the original BIOS on a bootable floppy or a CD and with the proper name.
Your mobo should work right away as you got it.
You only need to enter BIOS, load BIOS default settings, restart and set the correct BIOS settings.
The reason you have problems is your memory.
I think you have Ballistix.
These are DDR500 and your mobo with latest BIOS changes the DRAM Limit (this is a divider) to DDR500.
Your memory cannot work at DDR500 with stock 2.6v.
You need to give 2.8v and set this limit manually at 200 (then you may try to overclock).

In case that you flashed a BIOS the wrong way you need to follow these steps.

Reset the BIOS:
Remove everything.
Remove the battery.
Change the correct BIOS reset jumper to 2-3 position for a few minutes.
Replace the jumper.
Replace the battery.

Set up your system
Do not plug your raid drives or anything else.
Just CPU, one display card, Dimms, Screen, mouse, keyboard and floppy (use tested floppy and cable)
Flash the latest BIOS with AFUDOS on a USB key or a floppy disk.
Enter BIOS and change the Memory Limit to 200 and your vdimm to 2.8v.

Boot from floppy with memtest86+
Can you boot now?
Run memtest86+ for a while.
Also check you can boot from a DOS bootable floppy disk.

Check your RAID settings.
Check the rest of your BIOS settings (vdimm, vcore etc).
There are lots of examples on every BIOS setting on this thread.

There are known issues with Maxtor hard disks and ANTEC NeoHE 500 PSUs.
Also your soundcard (first editions) had a few problems.

[Cybertronic]

I've just tried the way it was stated in the manual, it still shows the same thing :(

I can't get into the BIOS at all, the "Press DEL button" message doesn't appear on the bottom of the BIOS screen anymore :confused:

[no_n|ck]

What is a warm restart?
You mean you enter Windows and you get a restart or you get the restart while booting? You are unstable in both cases so find your stable overclocking limits for your mobo, your CPU and your Dimms the traditional way. Experiment with BIOS settings.

With warm restart i mean; when i restart the computer from windows it log of noramly, just the system will not boot again - i have to turn psu off/on and turn the system back on to boot and start computer normaly - same story happens when i leave the bios - computer restart but will not boot, so again i have to turn psu off/on and switch the computer on again to boot normaly. But this is not the limit of the board, when i where having opty 146, same fsb - 300 was used, but i had also another sticks then - no UCCC. Anyway, i sold mine UCCC ram modules today and i'm wating for OCZ Platinum EB modules to come - i'm 90% sure that this warm 'restart' thing will dissaperd.
And mine system is 12h prime95 stable (small fft), so i eliminated that cpu and board would not be stable (large fft's are failing, so i'm 100% sure its ram related). Marios thanx for informations :toast:

[Marios]

I've just tried the way it was stated in the manual, it still shows the same thing :(

I can't get into the BIOS at all, the "Press DEL button" message doesn't appear on the bottom of the BIOS screen anymore :confused:
The manual is not very descriptive.
I have changed my previous post a little.
Now I have included more info.
Give it a try and let me know if you need anything.

An alternative way is this.
Hard reset your BIOS without your memory.
Then plug your dimms and the very first time you boot enter the BIOS, reset to defaults, change the limit and the vdimm and restart.

[Raffen]

What do you guys think about the new bios 1103? It really improved my warmboot problem, thats for sure. It also shorten the windows bootsequence significantly.
Asus says it will improve the overclocking with updated AI Booster Code. I'm not sure about the last statement, because the warmboot has been tricking me.

From asus:
A8N32-SLI Deluxe Bios version 1103
1- Support VCT Function for both LAN.
2- Show pink and red color when oversetting Dram voltage.
3- Fixed System show wrong Memory Installed Size when Enable Memory Hole Function.
4- Update AI Booster Code to improve overclocking ability.

Edit: BTW the VCore seems a lot more stable with 1.2V + 200mV, than 1.4V without overvoltage selected.

[safan80]

does anyone know the best way to take off the heatpipe cooling to add thermal grease without breaking it? my northbridge temp is 45C at idle and 55C under load during gaming with cod2.

[stone_cold_Jimi]

Edit: BTW the VCore seems a lot more stable with 1.2V + 200mV, than 1.4V without overvoltage selected.

+1

I think it's something to do with the vcore basic being 4-phase and the overvoltage being the other 4-phase; use both together and you've got 8-phase stability instead of 4.

Still reckon this board "feels" nicer in use than my DFI. I'll go back to it for sure.

[Mr.Mike]

A lot of people have made the same question, but I didnt´t have a straight answer yet... Does it work with OCZ DDR Booster????
And if it does, in what slot shout it be installed?
Thanx in advance. ;)

[dbett]

Will they [two NV Silencer 5 Rev. 3] fit both Video cards if there is a sound card (X-Fi) in PCI slot #2?

It looks like it would fit the PCI-X #1 card, but I wonder about the 'backside' clearance on the lower PCI #2 slot. Especially since the X-Fi has a lot of stuff sticking off the front.

If they would fit, that would be a great solution. Because right now, my MB temps are at (and at idle sometimes higher) than CPU temps.

Although the machine is now a lot quieter with 4 Nexus "Real Silent Case Fans" I put in tonight.

Well even though no one answered :( :D I went ahead and ordered two of the NV Silencers from Newegg.

I installed them last night. They fit! Two problems though:

1. The fan on the upper card initially didn't turn. :eek: After looking a bit more closely, I realized that the X-Fi was touching the hump on top of the fan (which faces down in the case). Luckily I was able to cut a little piece of rubber gasket I had lying around and jam it between the X-Fi and the clear plastic edge around the fan. That gives it enough clearance to now turn freely. :banana:

2. But even with that clearance, the X-Fi is still long enough that the last inch and half covers the air intake area on the upper NV Silencer. The result seems to be somewhat higher temps (about 5+ more than the lower card). But the temps are still lower than with the stock cooler so I'm not that worried about it.

And the end result is MB temps under video load (multiple runs of 3dMark05) that are about 7 degrees lower than what they were with the stock coolers. :woot: And the better thing is that the temps remain low even when I oc'd the cards - right now just at "optimal" settings of about 445 and 1.8.

CPU temps under load also declined, but only by 2-3 degrees. That's with the stock (but pretty cool) AMD X2 4400+ HS.

So all in all I'm happy with the addition.

[Zeus...]

Tell u what would be very useful if u overclock and use CnQ as 'Marios ' post here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1246333&postcount=1152) :bows: is a Bios mod that-

1. lets us select the 'Over-voltage cpu vcore' by different amounts instead of just 0.2V

2. some way of still being able to lock the max CPU multipler to a max value say x8,x9 or x10 whilst still being able to use 'CnQ'

Know if that could be done that would be really cool :cool:

just running some thoughs in the thread - any bios modders out there

[Marios]

Tell u what would be very useful if u overclock and use CnQ as 'Marios ' post here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1246333&postcount=1152) :bows: is a Bios mod that-

1. lets us select the 'Over-voltage cpu vcore' by different amounts instead of just 0.2V

2. some way of still being able to lock the max CPU multipler to a max value say x8,x9 or x10 whilst still being able to use 'CnQ'

Know if that could be done that would be really cool :cool:

just running some thoughs in the thread - any bios modders out there
Oh yes. Nice idea Zeus.
With ASUS A8N-SLI deluxe and premium only the multiplier is fixed, not the vcore.
So it is possible to have CnQ and unlocked vcore.

I hope someone breaks this silly vcore lock with CnQ.

(In my case I am stable at 2600 MHz even without CPU overvoltage but I would like to set CnQ enabled with vcore at 1.25v + overvoltage and O/C at 2700 for every day. Even at 2600 it would be great to use 8 phases instead of four)

[Marios]

With warm restart i mean; when i restart the computer from windows it log of noramly, just the system will not boot again - i have to turn psu off/on and turn the system back on to boot and start computer normaly - same story happens when i leave the bios - computer restart but will not boot, so again i have to turn psu off/on and switch the computer on again to boot normaly. But this is not the limit of the board, when i where having opty 146, same fsb - 300 was used, but i had also another sticks then - no UCCC. Anyway, i sold mine UCCC ram modules today and i'm wating for OCZ Platinum EB modules to come - i'm 90% sure that this warm 'restart' thing will dissaperd.
And mine system is 12h prime95 stable (small fft), so i eliminated that cpu and board would not be stable (large fft's are failing, so i'm 100% sure its ram related). Marios thanx for informations :toast:
There is no such a thing like "worm restart" the way you described it.
This is a normal function of our mobo to protect our CPU and calibrate the voltages it gives.
As you noticed the BIOS in our case is hudge.
This is because of all the data it helds to give the best voltages in all situations.

This is how I believe this mobo works.
(Actually this is a theory only but in my case it works OK)
When we apply a new configuration the BIOS performs two minor restarts before the actuall restart we see.
In some cases we can hear those minor restarts from the two sounds our DVD does.
The BIOS performs the first minor restart to save the new settings.
Then it calibrates the voltages and any other auto settings, checks they are valid and performs the second minor restart to save them.
After this, we get the actuall restart we see.
If the BIOS finds any problem with the settings we apply it locks down and never performs the second minor restart.
The BIOS kept the last working mobo optimizations and auto settings that worked but they are inadequate.
This is the Worm Boot we get.
We only hear one minor restart and we have to shut down the PC and restart to get in the BIOS again.
In case of a critical error we do not even get the Warm Boot.
We have a really LOCKED CPU.
In those cases we need to keep pressing the insert key to enter the BIOS again.
In all cases after a lock we have to set the FSB at 201, restart with a warm boot lock once again, but after that we no longer get the warm boot.
Now we can set the BIOS at the last working O/C settings and correct the problem (give more vcore for example) to go on.

In some cases there are no tables for the settings we apply.
The BIOS needs to lock some values and not change them.
In those cases we need to teach the BIOS what to do.
One way is to apply our settings gradually.
The other one is to unlock the BIOS every time it is locked (by setting the FSB at 201) because of a bad teaching circle and start again from the last stable boot.

On a next post I am going to give you a few more BIOS hints with examples.
Like this one
The actuall CPU overvolting is not 0.2v but 0.16v :)

Search Keys
Warm restart bag BIOS settings A8N32

[CODE 4]

Tell u what would be very useful if u overclock and use CnQ as 'Marios ' post here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1246333&postcount=1152) :bows: is a Bios mod that-

1. lets us select the 'Over-voltage cpu vcore' by different amounts instead of just 0.2V

2. some way of still being able to lock the max CPU multipler to a max value say x8,x9 or x10 whilst still being able to use 'CnQ'

Know if that could be done that would be really cool :cool:

just running some thoughs in the thread - any bios modders out there

I have had some great PM advice and discussion with Marios tonight. First of all Kudos to Marios for being such a big helper with the A8N32 MB!!! :YIPPIE:

Zeus, You have taking the words outa my mouth with your post. I would love to see a Bios with those "add ins". My config would rock with a locked 10x multi and CnQ enabled. The ram hit I have to take with a divider and 11x multi pisses me off :mad: 2nd, My 148 needs volts only to be 3D stable. For some reason this biznotch will run OCCT, Prime, Super Pi 32m and SP2004 without a hitch at low Vcores and 3.1ghz on her clock. As soon as I try a 3D test or Game she dies and needs more Vcore!! I have been searching for others with my problem, but am coming up dry so far.

[Zeus...]

I have had some great PM advice and discussion with Marios tonight. First of all Kudos to Marios for being such a big helper with the A8N32 MB!!! :YIPPIE:

Zeus, You have taking the words outa my mouth with your post. I would love to see a Bios with those "add ins". My config would rock with a locked 10x multi and CnQ enabled. The ram hit I have to take with a divider and 11x multi pisses me off :mad: 2nd, My 148 needs volts only to be 3D stable. For some reason this biznotch will run OCCT, Prime, Super Pi 32m and SP2004 without a hitch at low Vcores and 3.1ghz on her clock. As soon as I try a 3D test or Game she dies and needs more Vcore!! I have been searching for others with my problem, but am coming up dry so far.

Nice to see its not just me - my mem will do 250Mhz STD but with a multi of 11 thats 2750MHz and the overvolt isnt quite enough for stablity, it will run super pi etc but not Prime95 24hrs one of the core fail, it runs 3d ok, but I was getting minor issues which I think may be due to data currupt :slapass: or just the sysytem not being stable enough.

Also long term come summer when the heat arrives may need to reduce the Vcore and overclock to keep the temps/noise down. after all the overclock is great but I like to hear myself think - so an overclock of 2500Mhz would be nice for summer, but stuck with the 'overvolt' 0.2V'

Did think about getting a 'bios Saviour' then at the flick of a switch and a reboot the system goes form a STD system to lets 'Frag them All' system - but haven't looked into that option yet as summer isnt hear yet and the solution may be just round the corner with 'CnQ'

[dbett]

Just to follow up on my NV Silencer cooler installs...

Here's a picture of the rather crowded set up. The red arrow shows the piece of plastic I jammed in to get clearance for the upper unit's fan.

http://thebettertons.com/_images/misc/slicoolers.jpg

[TheMooN]

I am wondering , has anyone managed to get ATI Tray Tools to run on this board ?

[Zeus...]

Just to follow up on my NV Silencer cooler installs...

Here's a picture of the rather crowded set up. The red arrow shows the piece of plastic I jammed in to get clearance for the upper unit's fan.

http://thebettertons.com/_images/misc/slicoolers.jpg


:eek: looks tight (but fits :) ) - hope u dont need to clear CMOS

[CODE 4]

What someone needs to make and sell is a extender for the 3 pins that clear the cmos. You could make a remote clear cmos port and mount it in a position that you could access it. You could even make it a button config that you would just press and the cmos would clear!! Food for thought...someone get on this and you could make a mint on the forums/Ebay......or you could be nice and give them to all of us for free :D

[qdemn7]

What someone needs to make and sell is a extender for the 3 pins that clear the cmos. You could make a remote clear cmos port and mount it in a position that you could access it. You could even make it a button config that you would just press and the cmos would clear!! Food for thought...someone get on this and you could make a mint on the forums/Ebay......or you could be nice and give them to all of us for free :DYou spend about $10 @ Radio Shack and you can make one. I did. :D

[fareastgq]

is there a vcore mod for this board yet? 1.55 doesn't cut it for me, I need 1.75.

[shogan191]

is there a vcore mod for this board yet? 1.55 doesn't cut it for me, I need 1.75.

This is from the first page. "For those who couldn't get the vcore to over 1.58v, your mobo have to be either defective or it need bios update? I set the vcore to 1.40v and enable the v-core boost(200mv) and gets 1.61v instantly!! setting it to 1.5v with the vcore boost also gave me around 1.78v....not that I would ever use more than 1.70v but it's nice to know I can get close to 1.80v of vcore if ever needed. "

Just enable overvolt for Vcore and you will recieve .2 over whatever setting you are using. I'm using 11.03 bios I think.

[CODE 4]

Found a work around for CnQ and using a lower Multi then your chips Max!!!!!

Use this Program: CrystalCPUID 4.7.0.291 CrystalCPUID D/L (http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html) The one you need is located under the LATEST SOURCE CODE Icon

Install your CnQ AMD Driver I used the on on Asus's A8N32 Page Version: 1.2.2.2 and Reboot

IMPORTANT: Make sure you Disable CnQ in your BIOS, if you do not system will lock up when you launch CrystalCPUID.

Run the CrystalCPUID Application, set it all up under:
File--Multilplier Management Setting
Below are My Settings:
http://members.cox.net/amk/CUID1.jpg

You then go under Function and check Multiplier Management....Now set your Power Management to Minimal just like you would do with CnQ....That is it. Mine has been working perfect, games, apps, prime, OCCT, and so on for over 3 hours without a hiccup.

If you want it to start up minimized with your system do this:

Open the folder that you extracted CrystalCPUID to and right click on the Blue CPUID icon. Select “Create Shortcut”. Right click on the newly created shortcut and select “Properties”. To the text following the words “Target:” add to the end of the displayed text a space, then /HIDE then another space, then /CQ. It will look something like this “...CrystalCPUID.exe” /HIDE /CQ
You then put this in your Startup folder. I just drag and dropped it in my START Button, ALL PROGRAMS, STARTUP section.

I have my machine running Minimum of 2156mhz@1.4V, Middle 2772mhz @1.53V and Max 3080mhz@1.65V. My multis go 7X, 9X and 10X. The program has a realtime clock checker under the Function Tab and it is pretty cool watching how fast it adapts.

Good luck and let me know if it works for anyone else :toast:

[CODE 4]

Just enable overvolt for Vcore and you will recieve .2 over whatever setting you are using. I'm using 11.03 bios I think.
This is not true for all of us. My max is 1.65 no matter what I have set in the bios with the Overvolt enabled. I am running 1103 and all the bios's (for me) have had the same outcome.

[fareastgq]

This is from the first page. "For those who couldn't get the vcore to over 1.58v, your mobo have to be either defective or it need bios update? I set the vcore to 1.40v and enable the v-core boost(200mv) and gets 1.61v instantly!! setting it to 1.5v with the vcore boost also gave me around 1.78v....not that I would ever use more than 1.70v but it's nice to know I can get close to 1.80v of vcore if ever needed. "

Just enable overvolt for Vcore and you will recieve .2 over whatever setting you are using. I'm using 11.03 bios I think.

no, the max v-core depends on what chip u have, the bios setting doesn't matter, asus has crippled these boards.

[Marios]

@ CODE 4
This is great news for everybody. :thumbsup:
You solved a problem that pazzled me a long time now.
How did you set the Power managment?
For CnQ to work we normally have to set it at Minimal Power Managment.
Is it the same with CrystalCPUID?

As you know I was trying to work around the problem with the vcore myself without success.
When CnQ is enabled the CPU multi / vcore is locked to auto.
With a 4400+ CPU, auto means 1.36v.
I have already posted the way I fixed this in BIOS.
I set the FID/VID to manuall, changed the vcore to the desired value with the desired multi and then enabled the CnQ.
This way the BIOS always restarts to the values I want.
Whenever I want to change any BIOS setting I dissable CnQ fisrt, then make my changes and then enable CnQ again, save and exit.

The problem is that even though the BIOS reports the correct multi and vcore, this changes under Windows (even though the BIOS keeps the desired values I set).
So the problem is not the BIOS any more but Windows.
And with CrystalCPUID 4.7.0.291, I believe we are going to get what we want.
I think that setting both BIOS (the way I described) and Windows (the way CODE 4 said) at the same max FID/VID values is the best solution.

I did not try this program yet. For now I still get the same 1.36v under Windows and in case I enable CPU overvolt I get 1.36+0.156v=1.52v (see later on for this 1.52 display). I hope CrystalCPUID fixes that.

This is from the first page. "For those who couldn't get the vcore to over 1.58v, your mobo have to be either defective or it need bios update? I set the vcore to 1.40v and enable the v-core boost(200mv) and gets 1.61v instantly!! setting it to 1.5v with the vcore boost also gave me around 1.78v....not that I would ever use more than 1.70v but it's nice to know I can get close to 1.80v of vcore if ever needed. "

Just enable overvolt for Vcore and you will recieve .2 over whatever setting you are using. I'm using 11.03 bios I think.
CPU overvoltage gives only +0.165v, not +0.2v

No matter what you set this is what you are going to get.

Vcore Vcore+OV
1,5520 1,7120
1,5360 1,6960
1,5200 1,6800
1,5040 1,6640
1,4880 1,6480
1,4720 1,6320
1,4560 1,6160
1,4400 1,6000
1,4240 1,5840
1,4080 1,5680
1,3920 1,5520
1,3760 1,5360
1,3600 1,5200
1,3440 1,5040
1,3280 1,4880
1,3120 1,4720
1,2960 1,4560
1,2800 1,4400
1,2640 1,4240
1,2480 1,4080
1,2320 1,3920
1,2160 1,3760
1,2000 1,3600

These are the readings though, NOT the actuall vcore.
This is why we see sometimes the reading to change between two adjustent values.
For example we may see the vcore changing from 1.36 to 1.376.
This is not real. The vcore doesn't change that much.
It is somewhere in the middle.

I think this thread should be sticky.
I has great info for anyone with an Nforce4 based mobo.

[CODE 4]

@ CODE 4
This is great news for everybody. :thumbsup:
You solved a problem that pazzled me a long time now.
How did you set the Power managment?
For CnQ to work we normally have to set it at Minimal Power Managment.
Is it the same with the program you tried?

As you know I was trying to work around the problem with the vcore myself without success.
When CnQ is enabled the CPU multi / vcore is locked to auto.
With a 4400+ CPU, auto means 1.36v.
I have already posted the way I fixed this in BIOS.
I set the FID/VID to manuall, changed the vcore to the desired value with the desired multi and then enabled the CnQ.
This way the BIOS always restarts to the values I want.
Whenever I want to change any BIOS setting I dissable CnQ fisrt, then make my changes and then enable CnQ again, save and exit.

The problem is that even though the BIOS reports the correct multi and vcore, this changes under Windows (even though the BIOS keeps the desired values I set).
So the problem is not the BIOS any more but Windows.
And with CrystalCPUID 4.7.0.291, I think we are going to get what we want.
I think that setting both BIOS (the way I described) and Windows (the way CODE 4 said) at the same max FID/VID values is the best solution.

I did not try this program yet. For now I still get the same 1.36v under Windows and in case I enable CPU overvolt I get 1.36+0.156v=1.52v (see later on for this 1.52 display). I hope CrystalCPUID fixes that.


All I did was leave my max oc settings in the bios like I would have without every enabling CnQ. So I have it set to: 308x10 @ 1.4875 plus the overvolt, I did NOT enable CnQ at all. This way Crystal can manage it on the Boot. Just make sure you load the CnQ windows driver BEFORE you try to run the Multiplier Management tool of CrystalCPUID. If you do not bad things, my system would just lock and I would have to reboot. I found that by having CnQ enabled I would not get the max Vcore because it was regulated by CnQ in the BIOS. So by having it all on Manual it works exaclty like a guy would want it to. As far as Power Management in windows I set it to Minimal. Try this on your rig and let me know what you find out. I am very curious and have posted this elsewhere looking for other peeps input. GL

[Marios]

Which CnQ windows driver?
I never installed the CnQ driver that came with my ASUS CD in the past, because it prevented overclocking on my other ASUS premium.
All I do is enable CnQ in BIOS, install the AMD driver and enable the minimal power managment.
This way CnQ works OK.
The only driver I install from the ASUS CD is ATK0110 ACPI utility.
Actually this is self installed the moment we insert the CD.

I think you do not need this driver.
I suppose you would get the same locks in case you change the minimal power managment to something else like desktop.

What is your vcore reading with clockgen?
Is it fluctuating between 1,6320 and 1,6480 as I said on my previous post?
What sort of CPU cooling do you have?
It is really kicking ...

[CODE 4]

Which CnQ windows driver?
I never installed the CnQ driver that came with my ASUS CD in the past, because it prevented overclocking on my other ASUS premium.
All I do is enable CnQ in BIOS, install the AMD driver and enable the minimal power managment.
This way CnQ works OK.
The only driver I install from the ASUS CD is ATK0110 ACPI utility.
Actually this is self installed the moment we insert the CD.

I think you do not need this driver.
I suppose you would get the same locks in case you change the minimal power managment to something else like desktop.

What is your vcore reading with clockgen?
Is it fluctuating between 1,6320 and 1,6480 as I said on my previous post?
What sort of CPU cooling do you have?
It is really kicking ...

This one: Version 1.2.2.2 (http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/misc/AMD_CoolnQuiet/XPCnQ_1222.zip) (it says it is the Cool and Quiet Driver version 1.2.2.2 on Asus D/L page) Without it my CrystalCPUID did not work. CnQ would work, but if I had that enabled and tried to run Crystal I would lock up.
I am getting 1.65 to 1.66 when I have the Max OC setting set. I am cooling with Cheap H20 and this is my 4th Operteron 148 :D

[CODE 4]

Just did a test and removed the above Driver 1.2.2.2. I think you are right it is Not needed. I must have had my Power Management set to something else besides minimal at the time I was figuring this out. I am running fine with it off the system, CnQ Disabled In Bios, and CrystalCPUID running my Multi's. Sorry for the mix up I thought not having the driver installed was causing my lockups.

[Zeus...]

What someone needs to make and sell is a extender for the 3 pins that clear the cmos. You could make a remote clear cmos port and mount it in a position that you could access it. You could even make it a button config that you would just press and the cmos would clear!! Food for thought...someone get on this and you could make a mint on the forums/Ebay......or you could be nice and give them to all of us for free :D

I made one for mine, not as fancy as u surgest it plugs into the 3pins (robbed an old PC case of the jumper leads for the 'power switch' etc) then conects to a block connecter which I just unswcrew and move a little jumper wire across to clear the CMOS and then move it back

having the SLI makes it tricky but the Alphacool Cora 662 XP means I cant just put the PC on its side - great cooler I modded but :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: if u need to do something in the case.

[Zeus...]

Found a work around for CnQ and using a lower Multi then your chips Max!!!!!

Use this Program: CrystalCPUID 4.7.0.291 CrystalCPUID D/L (http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html) The one you need is located under the LATEST SOURCE CODE Icon

Install your CnQ AMD Driver I used the on on Asus's A8N32 Page Version: 1.2.2.2 and Reboot

IMPORTANT: Make sure you Disable CnQ in your BIOS, if you do not system will lock up when you launch CrystalCPUID.

Run the CrystalCPUID Application, set it all up under:
File--Multilplier Management Setting
Below are My Settings:
http://members.cox.net/amk/CUID1.jpg

You then go under Function and check Multiplier Management....Now set your Power Management to Minimal just like you would do with CnQ....That is it. Mine has been working perfect, games, apps, prime, OCCT, and so on for over 3 hours without a hiccup.

If you want it to start up minimized with your system do this:

Open the folder that you extracted CrystalCPUID to and right click on the Blue CPUID icon. Select “Create Shortcut”. Right click on the newly created shortcut and select “Properties”. To the text following the words “Target:” add to the end of the displayed text a space, then /HIDE then another space, then /CQ. It will look something like this “...CrystalCPUID.exe” /HIDE /CQ
You then put this in your Startup folder. I just drag and dropped it in my START Button, ALL PROGRAMS, STARTUP section.

I have my machine running Minimum of 2156mhz@1.4V, Middle 2772mhz @1.53V and Max 3080mhz@1.65V. My multis go 7X, 9X and 10X. The program has a realtime clock checker under the Function Tab and it is pretty cool watching how fast it adapts.

Good luck and let me know if it works for anyone else :toast:


Night on the beer last night and still seeeing slightly blurry am I awake or just dreaming of some little software program to trick my CPU to think it has a lower max multipler and be able to up the Vcore and yet still have it trottle back when not need

must be dreaming sure I posted about that one already - rub my eyes again

:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot::woot: :woot: :woot:

nice find - must get some backup software so I can get this opty running free again

[Marios]

Found a work around for CnQ and using a lower Multi then your chips Max!!!!!

Use this Program: CrystalCPUID 4.7.0.291 CrystalCPUID D/L (http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html) The one you need is located under the LATEST SOURCE CODE Icon

Install your CnQ AMD Driver I used the on on Asus's A8N32 Page Version: 1.2.2.2 and Reboot

IMPORTANT: Make sure you Disable CnQ in your BIOS, if you do not system will lock up when you launch CrystalCPUID.

Run the CrystalCPUID Application, set it all up under:
File--Multilplier Management Setting
Below are My Settings:
http://members.cox.net/amk/CUID1.jpg

You then go under Function and check Multiplier Management....Now set your Power Management to Minimal just like you would do with CnQ....That is it. Mine has been working perfect, games, apps, prime, OCCT, and so on for over 3 hours without a hiccup.

If you want it to start up minimized with your system do this:

Open the folder that you extracted CrystalCPUID to and right click on the Blue CPUID icon. Select “Create Shortcut”. Right click on the newly created shortcut and select “Properties”. To the text following the words “Target:” add to the end of the displayed text a space, then /HIDE then another space, then /CQ. It will look something like this “...CrystalCPUID.exe” /HIDE /CQ
You then put this in your Startup folder. I just drag and dropped it in my START Button, ALL PROGRAMS, STARTUP section.

I have my machine running Minimum of 2156mhz@1.4V, Middle 2772mhz @1.53V and Max 3080mhz@1.65V. My multis go 7X, 9X and 10X. The program has a realtime clock checker under the Function Tab and it is pretty cool watching how fast it adapts.

Good luck and let me know if it works for anyone else :toast:

YES I DID IT. :woot:
And it WORKS GREAT
Long live CODE 4
Thank you very very much :toast:

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I enabled CPU overvolting.

To get a max 1.392v I set 1.225v + CPU Overvoltage enabled in BIOS
and 1.225v on the program.
Maximum 11.0x 1.225v 5000ms
Middle 9x 1.175v 500ms
Low 5x 1.125v 500ms

The actual vcore readings are those above +0.165v.

I suppose I cannot set a multiplier over my nominal CPU value (x11)
My 4400+ has a locked multi and I do not want to risk that.
Did any one try it? :rolleyes:

[ben805]

Just to follow up on my NV Silencer cooler installs...

Here's a picture of the rather crowded set up. The red arrow shows the piece of plastic I jammed in to get clearance for the upper unit's fan.

http://thebettertons.com/_images/misc/slicoolers.jpg


man that's really jammed up pretty good there with those jumbo dual slots, what's your GPU temp looks like? if it's running hot you might want to add 120mm fan blowing directly onto those cards.

[dbett]

man that's really jammed up pretty good there with those jumbo dual slots, what's your GPU temp looks like? if it's running hot you might want to add 120mm fan blowing directly onto those cards.

It's not roomy. :)

Under load (multiple 3dMark05 runs) and running at 450 core and 1.09 memory, the upper card is about 52-54. The lower card is 45-46.

I do have an 80mm Nexus on the side panel blowing in the general area of the PCI slots. And one in the lower front which 'feeds' the area as well.

But given the cards are rated for much higher temps, and the heat is no longer being added into the case and raising my MB temps, I'm happy enough with those results.

Now to try and hit 12,000 in 3dMark05 - only 200 points left to go. :D

[TheMooN]

Huzzaaayyyy!!! for CODE4 very neat solution bud :)

[mussadek]

Hello, i need help :(


My system:

Athlon FX-60
Asus a8n32-Sli Deluxe
2x 7800 gtx 256 from gigabyte
thermaltak 680w PSU
4x 512mb DDR600
X-FI fatality
76gb Raptor 10,000 RPm HDD SATA
gigabyte 3d liqued cooling for CPU
optical drive
the system is not overclocked

Have everything up to date: windows, Bios, Card drivers Ect.

No one can seem to help me with my problem maybe you guys can.

3dmark06 i score is fine just with one card. When i enable SLI whole system will shut off at aftwer the test 1.

FEAR i average about 40 Fps highest settings on one card. If i enable SLI crashes Same Exact Part everytime. Whole system shuts off. Same with all games i own., quake4 ect

I am now bald from stress, been readin your guys forums for long time now figured i finally show myself in desperate need for an answer.

Please help guys

note:
sorry for my bad english

[Zeus...]

Hello, i need help :(


My system:

Athlon FX-60
Asus a8n32-Sli Deluxe
2x 7800 gtx 256 from gigabyte
thermaltak 680w PSU
4x 512mb DDR600
X-FI fatality
76gb Raptor 10,000 RPm HDD SATA
gigabyte 3d liqued cooling for CPU
optical drive
the system is not overclocked

Have everything up to date: windows, Bios, Card drivers Ect.

No one can seem to help me with my problem maybe you guys can.

3dmark06 i score is fine just with one card. When i enable SLI whole system will shut off at aftwer the test 1.

FEAR i average about 40 Fps highest settings on one card. If i enable SLI crashes Same Exact Part everytime. Whole system shuts off. Same with all games i own., quake4 ect

I am now bald from stress, been readin your guys forums for long time now figured i finally show myself in desperate need for an answer.

Please help guys

note:
sorry for my bad english

have u treid swopping the cards over and giving the slot thats goes into the PCI slot a clean at the same time?

alos try one card at a time u may have a bad one? - I would try this first

[bigmusic]

A8N32 custom edition..WOW~!!!

http://bbs.gzeasy.com/index.php?showtopic=477250&st=0&gopid=7466982&#entry7466982

[mussadek]

have u treid swopping the cards over and giving the slot thats goes into the PCI slot a clean at the same time?

alos try one card at a time u may have a bad one? - I would try this first

Thanks for the replay

Yes I have tried swapping the tow cards but the problem still excite but if I try using one card at time every thing work no problem, only if I hookup the SLI my PC crash:(

[Zeus...]

Thanks for the replay

Yes I have tried swapping the tow cards but the problem still excite but if I try using one card at time every thing work no problem, only if I hookup the SLI my PC crash:(

Stupid question time - have u connected the SLi connector to each card

http://thebettertons.com/_images/misc/slicoolers.jpg

Also which Nforce and Geforce drivers u using

whats the 12V rail reading?

Try a different power connector to the SLI setup - the one u r using might not be providing enough power

[koensa]

Hello


Just a quick question:

Can i use the OCZ DDR booster on my ASUS K8N_SLI PREMIUM motherboard?

and how can i work with my 24 atx psu?because my OCZ DDR booster is 20 pinATX


greetz, hope to have a answer real quick so i can use this new rig of mine


yo!

[mussadek]

Stupid question time - have u connected the SLi connector to each card

http://thebettertons.com/_images/misc/slicoolers.jpg

Also which Nforce and Geforce drivers u using

whats the 12V rail reading?

Try a different power connector to the SLI setup - the one u r using might not be providing enough power


1) YES I did that the SLi connecter is connected like in that picture
2) I ma using Nforce 6.85 + I have tried many other driver for the gforce but it is always the same problem , right now I am using 83.90
3) 12V rail reading is 11.98V

[CODE 4]

Hello


Just a quick question:

Can i use the OCZ DDR booster on my ASUS K8N_SLI PREMIUM motherboard?

and how can i work with my 24 atx psu?because my OCZ DDR booster is 20 pinATX


greetz, hope to have a answer real quick so i can use this new rig of mine


yo!
You might want to ask this question in a Thread that is not dedicated to the A8N32 Motherboard :stick:

[MrSlacker]

I have a question to all owners of this motherboard. My buddy got one of these and we were trying to OC. I nevered used an ASUS board before and he doesnt know anything about OCing A64. So anyways, I could not find the HT Link settings... If someone could tell me which option is for HT multi, i would be very greatful. I think its holding back our OC because we could go above 265 HTT with his X2 4400.

[Zeus...]

1) YES I did that the SLi connecter is connected like in that picture
2) I ma using Nforce 6.85 + I have tried many other driver for the gforce but it is always the same problem , right now I am using 83.90
3) 12V rail reading is 11.98V

Well unless u have another SLI mobo I think its time to RMA the mobo - sorry for the stupid questions

[ReelMonza]

Another CnQ utility is RMClock, you guys should really give it a try !

[CODE 4]

Another CnQ utility is RMClock, you guys should really give it a try !
I tried RMClock as well. I did not like the interface as well and I thought it was a little confusing. You should post how you config it and some pics in case someone wants to compare:up:

[ReelMonza]

It is a great utility indeed but the developer kinda screwed up the interface in version 2.0...

version 1.8 has better interface imho... if you can get ahold of it...

one of the main features of this utility is the possibility to choose more stages (p-states) instead of just min/mid/max (you have to choose direct amd transitions under advanced tab) and set voltages accordingly

[Mr.Mike]

You might want to ask this question in a Thread that is not dedicated to the A8N32 Motherboard :stick:

I made the exact same question on page 53, refering to the A8N32-SLI and nowone answered it...
The best thing I´d got was a kind pm from Ben805 disadvising the use of the booster in boards that have 24 pin Atx conector...

However here goes a good tip on the matter directly from OCZ (http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?p=152513&posted=1#post152513)

[mussadek]

Well unless u have another SLI mobo I think its time to RMA the mobo - sorry for the stupid questions

Thanks you for the HELP I have solved the problem by adjusting the relay in the PSU to get 12v stable when SLI enabled

[Zeus...]

Thanks you for the HELP I have solved the problem by adjusting the relay in the PSU to get 12v stable when SLI enabled

Good to c have got it sorted:)

[ST4]

i, like many here, have experienced the warm boot issues first hand. even though i am prime stable, often times doing a soft boot, or even a simple power reset will cause the mobo not to post properly. on 2 different cpu's now (both opty 165's overclocked to 2.7GHz), the fix for me was to increase vcore voltage a little bit. I have tried every other thing in the settings to no avail except this. hope this helps some folks out there...

p.s. interestingly enough i also gained a little stability on one of the 165's i own by just connecting up the EZ-PLUG (a la the DFI boards). Anyone else with this experience as well?

[ranger]

So, going back to page 52 (sorry, was on vacation in Vegas). I'm no alone with trying to resume from S3 Standby while overclocked, and having my FSB revert back to Stock FSB? Yes, I know a restart will fix it, and i"ll be overclocked once again. Isn't this annoying to anybody else? What can be done to fix this? Bios update? or Hardware. Thanks again!

Ranger

[shogan191]

In my case, using the latest bios has fixed the reboot, softboot problem. I didn't see any relation to this problem and Vcore.

[no_n|ck]

I have the latest bios and still gets warm boot :stick: .. What the hell, can't asus fix that with some proper bios update, instead of 'stupid' vcore incresment and stuff like that ..

[ReelMonza]

ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe: Love at Second Sight :

"In our recent review of the Nvidia nForce4 SLI X16 chipset and of the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe mainboard based on it we met a number of problems resulting in low performance in synthetic as well as gaming tests. We are making our amends now by publishing fresh test data we have achieved with correct HyperTransport bus settings and with the latest version of the nForce4 SLI X16 chipset driver."

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-a8n32-sli-deluxe-update.html

[dbett]

ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe: Love at Second Sight :



http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-a8n32-sli-deluxe-update.html


That's weird. They show a 3DMark05 "Total" score of only 7730 - with 2 7800GTXs.

Not sure what test result that is. Because using 2 7800GT's I get close to 12,000 on the free version of 3DMark05.

Anyone know?

[Veedo]

That's weird. They show a 3DMark05 "Total" score of only 7730 - with 2 7800GTXs.

Not sure what test result that is. Because using 2 7800GT's I get close to 12,000 on the free version of 3DMark05.

Anyone know?

they more than likely ran it at a higher resolution

[ReelMonza]

...with all the eye candy

[Marios]

ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe: Love at Second Sight :



http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-a8n32-sli-deluxe-update.html
At least they have the guts to addmit they were wrong the first time.

[ST4]

Although this is was a review of P5N32-SLI, it was interesting to note nevertheless:

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?page=3&articleid=729

"Unfortunately, getting the system booted was not always that easy. In many cases, booting up the P5N32-SLI resulted in a blank monitor screen and we had to manually shut down the board using the kill-switch on the power supply. Originally, we thought this might have been a heat-related issue, as the system typically would not reboot after running benchmarks and the like. After checking fans and airflow, we were convinced that the setup, at least, was not at fault. We also noticed that the next boot after using the PSU kill-switch, would invariably halt during POST with the message that "overclocking failed or overvoltage failed". The problem with this is that in just about every case, we were neither overclocking nor overvolting any of the components. Investigating the issue, we found that in the Hardware Monitoring section of the BIOS, that the CPU was consistently undervolted, usually by a solid volt off of the expected value. That is, even if we raised the voltage elsewhere, the VCORE Voltage would be one volt lower. We managed to gain a bit of stability by manually raising the CPU voltage, but still found that the system became unresponsive from time to time."

I might bust out an RTA and monitor the CPU voltage values during operation and after a reboot to see what it is outputting to the CPU...

[Cisco]

At least they have the guts to addmit they were wrong the first time.
Not quite. They're still trying to shift the blame by saying that this MB has a problem resetting the SB>NB to 2X after clearing CMOS or updating the BIOS. I have seen that just once, right after flashing to 903. And even then, loading the set-up defaults changed it to 5X.

I don't know about you, but the very first thing I do after flashing or clearing CMOS is to load set-up defaults, reboot and go through the whole BIOS making all my adjustments--it's that last little bit they didn't do.

Then (in the first review from December) they confused many of us by trying to explain their odd results claiming that this MB gets its extra PCIe GPU bandwidth by robbing it from the HTT (8 up, 8 down instead of 16/16.) I don't know how many read the old review but it caused a stir many places.

At least their new review has very good data showing how important it is for SLI performance to get the SB>NB settings right.

[Marios]

This is common knowledge to load setup defaults.
XbitLabs had to give an excuse.
Any way... LOL.
That's why I said "at least".
I read their first article.
No comments on that one ...

[Marios]

Restarts when playing 3D games with Dual Core CPUs?
I believe this is an existing 3D gaming problem with dual core CPUs.

The background

Open Issues in Version 84.12
NVIDIA Issues—Single GPU
There may be intermittent application compatibility issues with dual core CPUs.
If you experience this issue, you can work around it by toggling off multi-thread optimizations using the following instructions:
1. Launch regedit and determine the current primary display card by looking in
HKey_Local_Machine\Hardware\DeviceMap\Video
and note the GUID (global unique identifier assigned by Windows), which is the long string in brackets { } at the end of the entry
\device\video0
2. Look in
HKey_Local_Machine\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Video\{GUID}\0000
where {GUID} is the number derived from the previous step.
3. Open the "0000" directory and create a new DWORD called OGL_ThreadControl and give it a value of 2.
This will disable multithreading in the driver for all OpenGL applications.
4. If you want to disable driver multithreading for all Direct3D applications
In the same "0000" directory, create a new DWORD called WTD_EXECMODEL and give it a value of 0.
Issues specific to a Dual x16 SLI system
Issues Resolved in Version 81.85
Single GPU Issues Resolved
GeForce 7800 GTX/GT, GeForce 6600, SLI: The system hangs when running 3D applications on a Dual x16 SLI system.
This issue is resolved with an update to the nForce4 430/410 motherboard BIOS. Contact your motherboard manufacturer for the update.

SLI-Related Issues Resolved
3DMark05 and Far Cry experience poor performance on a dual x16 SLI system compared to a Dual x8 SLI system.
A8N32-SLI Dlx is a Dual x16 SLI system.
The mentioned fix requires a BIOS update.
I never saw any ASUS BIOS update mentioning this fix. :slapass:

This is my story.
I have installed the latest Windows XP SP2 updates, the latest DirectX (I think it is January 2006 edition), the dual core fix, I've checked the presence of the M$ updates with QFE check and I use sfc/scannow, checkdisk and defrag from time to time.

This way, I never had any issues in the past with games and I always thought the DUAL CORE problem as a personal problem.
I believe I was wrong.

When I first installed "Counter Strike Source" I got a few game crashes with looping sound even though I checked the integrity of the game with STEAM.
The problems did not appear right away.
I had to play the game for a while to get the error.

I have two Athlon64 CPUs. One single Core 3500+ and one dual core 4400+
- With my single core 3500+ I can play for hours without any problems with 5.1 speakers.
- With my dual core 4400+ I could smooth (not solve) the problem by setting "stereo" sound. This gave me only one crash after a few hours of gaming.

To permanently solve the looping sound crash problem with the dual core 4400+:

1. Dissable the dual core optimizations the Nvidia way OR
2. Set the affinity to one core or

To set the affinty to one core
Start the game
Press ALT-CTRL-DEL to open the Windows Task Manager
Go to process tab,
Right click the "game".exe process
Set the affinity to single core
(no matter which core it works).

The affinity change is not permanent.
You have to be able to minimize the game to access the Windows tak Manager.
There are programs to set the affinity permanently but do not use them.

I have no problems with other games.

I hope this helps.

[Divvy]

I guys!
Can someone help me to configure my BIOS?
I already have problems with my memories... but now, I discover this topic (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1313315&postcount=1) and help me alot! I have dual channel working now! I never did It!
But I only change the memory settings, because if I do the same like that topic, my computer reboots in the windows logo.
So, can someone help me changing the other settings? Or I dont need It?

This is my computer:
NZXT Lexa
AMD OPTERON 64 175 DENMARK SOCKET 939
Zalman CNPS 9500 Led
SEASONIC S12-600 600W SLI SUPERSILENT
Asus A8N32-Sli Deluxe nForce4Sli SK939
G.SKILL 2x1GB PC4000 HZ SERIES DUAL CHANNEL
Western Digital Disco Rigido 250gb 16MB Sata II
EVGA 7800GT CO 256MB DDR3 PCIe

And this is my BIOS:

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001108.jpg

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001109.jpg

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001110.jpg

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001111.jpg

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001112.jpg

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001113.jpg

P.S. Please sorry my poor english... :rolleyes:

[Cisco]

The affinity change is not permanent.
You have to be able to minimize the game to access the Windows tak Manager.
There are programs to set the affinity permanently but do not use them.

There are other games that need the single core affinity fix also. For me it's NHL2006. I've read that other EA Sports games (Madden and FIFA) need it as well but I don't have those.

[Divvy]

please, anyone? :rolleyes:

[ben805]

please, anyone? :rolleyes:


change the following and see if it helps:

Read Preamble: 7ns
Async latency: 9ns
TREF: 15.6

[guess2098]

please, anyone? :rolleyes:
change one timing at the time and see which one casues the reboot!

[MrSlacker]

I have a question to all owners of this motherboard. My buddy got one of these and we were trying to OC. I nevered used an ASUS board before and he doesnt know anything about OCing A64. So anyways, I could not find the HT Link settings... If someone could tell me which option is for HT multi, i would be very greatful. I think its holding back our OC because we could go above 265 HTT with his X2 4400.
Can anyone please help?

[Ic3man]

iirc Look for this setting :

FSB ---> K8 x5

Lower it to x3 or 600 (depending on which bios version you have).

[Divvy]

change the following and see if it helps:

Read Preamble: 7ns
Async latency: 9ns
TREF: 15.6

Hi ben805! Thanks for your reply|
But change where? in my actual bios or with this settings:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1313315&postcount=1

[MrSlacker]

iirc Look for this setting :

FSB ---> K8 x5

Lower it to x3 or 600 (depending on which bios version you have).
Can anyone please confirm? He is using the latest BIOS, 1103 IIRC

[Divvy]

I guys!
Can someone help me to configure my BIOS?
I already have problems with my memories... but now, I discover this topic (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1313315&postcount=1) and help me alot! I have dual channel working now! I never did It!
But I only change the memory settings, because if I do the same like that topic, my computer reboots in the windows logo.
So, can someone help me changing the other settings? Or I dont need It?

This is my computer:
NZXT Lexa
AMD OPTERON 64 175 DENMARK SOCKET 939
Zalman CNPS 9500 Led
SEASONIC S12-600 600W SLI SUPERSILENT
Asus A8N32-Sli Deluxe nForce4Sli SK939
G.SKILL 2x1GB PC4000 HZ SERIES DUAL CHANNEL
Western Digital Disco Rigido 250gb 16MB Sata II
EVGA 7800GT CO 256MB DDR3 PCIe

And this is my BIOS:

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001108.jpg

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001109.jpg

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001110.jpg

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001111.jpg

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001112.jpg

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001113.jpg

P.S. Please sorry my poor english... :rolleyes:

The images are showing? Can everyone see the images?
Please help... and sorry for my poor english...

[Marios]

Check your memory with memtest86+.
Since you are not overclocked you should be able to work with the above settings.
So there is something wrong with your hardware.

[ben805]

Hi ben805! Thanks for your reply|
But change where? in my actual bios or with this settings:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1313315&postcount=1

just keep the rest of the setting and change those three I'd gave you...YES IN THE BIOS!! :lol:

by the way, the link you'd provided can't' show any pictures so I don't know what they were.

[Divvy]

Here are the images:

[Divvy]

The last one:

[ben805]

not your images, I was refering to the GSKILL Tech link man.


nevermind....

[dbett]

Restarts when playing 3D games with Dual Core CPUs?
I believe this is an existing 3D gaming problem with dual core CPUs.

For those who are having issues with Serious Sam II, there is another cause of this type of issue.

From http://forums.seriouszone.com/forumdisplay.php?f=381:

I see some of you with dual-core has a brand new problem (like it wasn't enough already!).

I managed to repro the lock-up issue with dual-core system (I guess it's only on dual-core!), and nVidia drivers 81.xx.

[code-junkie stuff]
Debugging showed that Direct3D never returned occlusion query result, altho it should have, which made our engine waiting in infinite loop.
[/code-junkie stuff]

Since ATI driver and 7x.xx NV driver is fine, it leads to a conclusion that it has something with dual-core support in 81.xx drivers (one of new feature of rel 80 drivers is dual-core support, so there you have it!).

Anyway, just wanted to let you know that we're working closely with NV on addressing this issue.

In the meantime, the workaround is to downgrade to 70 series driver, but if that's not handy for you (because of other games), you can disable lens-flares and occlusion culling with cvars:
'efx_iLensFlareQuality = 0' (3 is default), and
'ren_bOcclusionCulling = 0'.
Hopefully, that will do the trick.

That has solved my problems with crashes to the desktop and restarts after playing for awhile. At least it has in a few hours of playing since I changed those options. [Knock on wood]

And btw, you change those in the .ini file - forget what its called. If anyone can't find it, post back and I'll take a look on my other computer.

[Mickey Padge]

The 1103 BIOS gives me loads of memtest86+ errors on test 8 no matter what speed/timing or voltage I set the ram and CPU to. Even below stock :stick:

I have G.Skill FF ram, so its a crap BIOS for sure. I flashed back to 703 and test 8 shows no errors at all now :)

Asus really need to pull their finger out and create a decent BIOS, as this motherboard and us end users deserve better.

Cheers

[PuNiShEr]

BIOS ver. 1103 AND O/C PROBLEMS?

As I said I had a few restarts lately while playing HL2 DOD Source with my dual core CPU.

To isolate the problem, I had set the FSB at 201 and the DRAM at 2T from the very first day.
The solution I found was to set the Steam.exe affinity to one core.
I checked it for a few days and everything was OK.
Since the "solution" to my DOD source problem, was working, I decided to restore my overclocked BIOS settings.
Hell. Now I got random restarts without doing anything. :slapass:

The only thing I changed right before I installed DOD Source was the BIOS (from 1009 to 1103).
So I installed the BIOS once again, loaded system defaults and configured everything the right way.
Nothing changed.

My next step was to revert the BIOS to 1009.

MAGIC :woot:
This time I could overclock without those random restarts.
And the most amazing thing?
I can play DOD Source for hours without the the affinity trick.

So, in case you have problems ....
DO NOT HESITATE TO REVERT TO 1009 BIOS
You are going to save yourselves from a lot af troubles.

Shame on ASUS for this crapy 1103 BIOS, or is it my fault?

I've been expericing some crashes too since i've "upgraded" to 1103 BIOS... And besides that, i got random errors when i use "Par2" files to fix "Rar's", and when i decompress some big "Rar" files, even when i have my system overclocked a little... I thought that my ballistix were dying, but hell no, i'll try 1009 BIOS and see if it helps like it did to you... Shame on you ASUS :slapass:

[Marios]

BIOS ver. 1103 AND O/C PROBLEMS?

As I said I had a few restarts lately while playing HL2 DOD Source with my dual core CPU.

To isolate the problem, I had set the FSB at 201 and the DRAM at 2T from the very first day.
The solution I found was to set the Steam.exe affinity to one core.
I checked it for a few days and everything was OK.
Since the "solution" to my DOD source problem, was working, I decided to restore my overclocked BIOS settings.
Hell. Now I got random restarts without doing anything. :slapass:

The only thing I changed right before I installed DOD Source was the BIOS (from 1009 to 1103).
So I installed the BIOS once again, loaded system defaults and configured everything the right way.
Nothing changed.

My next step was to revert the BIOS to 1009.

MAGIC :woot:
This time I could overclock without those random restarts.
And the most amazing thing?
I can play DOD Source for hours without the affinity trick.

So, in case you have problems ....
DO NOT HESITATE TO REVERT TO 1009 BIOS
You are going to save yourselves from a lot af troubles.

Shame on ASUS for a "crapy" 1103 BIOS, or did I do something wrong?
I am not sure.
I did a few more things since I reverted to 1009 BIOS.
I gave a bit more vcore (from 1.38 to 1.4) and I installed the latest pure video decoder.
I can understand the vcore might be mandatory to stop having restarts.
Though 1.36v was the vcore I always had with 1009 BIOS, because I was overclocked with Cool n Quiet enabled.
Any way I can try the same vcore with 1009 BIOS and come back.
On the other hand I must admit that either the latest pure video decoder solved my dual CPU gaming problem or the BIOS revert.
What do you think?

[Supertim0r]

this is the bios i'm using (1103)
which one is the better ? 703 1009 ?

[Marios]

Do you have any restart or O/C problems with your dual core Opteron with 1103 BIOS?

[Supertim0r]

Do you have any restart or O/C problems with your dual core Opteron with 1103 BIOS?

memory crap @ 260ish

[Mickey Padge]

OK this may sound really stupid ( which is my area of expertise for sure :p: ) but has anyone else noticed that this board seems to run cooler when the overvolt options are enabled?

It may be me, but I was messing around with different settings in the bios and clocking the rig differently and I forgot to put the overvolt options to off.

Now the PC's NB is running a good few C's below what it used to at the same speeds as before :confused:

Has anyone else experienced this, or am I just delusional :slap: :stick:

Cheers

[stone_cold_Jimi]

OK this may sound really stupid ( which is my area of expertise for sure :p: ) but has anyone else noticed that this board seems to run cooler when the overvolt options are enabled?

Well that's interesting, I think I'll try that. I'm using the CPU overvolt at the moment (board on the bench, x2 3800 @ 2470 @ 1.2625v + 0.2v) because it's more stable and uses all 8 phases. I just wonder from what you say if making the overvolt present in the chipset also helps even if it doesn't necessarily need it.

[Ic3man]

Now the PC's NB is running a good few C's below what it used to at the same speeds as before :confused:

Has anyone else experienced this, or am I just delusional :slap: :stick:

Cheers

How did you get the temp of the NB?

[ben805]

I think it's about time to change the thread title to "Asus A8N32-SLI General Discussion" eh? ;)

[Mickey Padge]

Well it's not the NB so to speak lol, but Asus PC probe MB temp reading.

I am just calling it the NB out of habit. :p:

It is stange how the boards voltages seem more stable when overvoltages are enabled though and the PC probes MB temps are a few C cooler.

The vcore for example has less fluctuations when running 1.3v with the overvoltage enabled than when just running at 1.5v.

Strange, but on my board very much true.

Cheers


EDIT: Ben805 it's true, our initial impressions have lasted for quite a long time lol :D

[Ic3man]

The vcore for example has less fluctuations when running 1.3v with the overvoltage enabled than when just running at 1.5v.



I think thats becuase the 8-phase power comes into effect when the overvolt options are enabled. Dunno why it would be cooler, I'll give this a test when I get home:p:

[Mickey Padge]

Hmm. Maybe it is spreading out the heat load on the motherboard?
Where is the temp reading being taken from?

[Zeus...]

I think it's about time to change the thread title to "Asus A8N32-SLI General Discussion" eh? ;)

About time it was a sticky too ;)

[Crashtack]

Hmm. Maybe it is spreading out the heat load on the motherboard?
Where is the temp reading being taken from?


Makes sence to me. Spread current draw between 8 power transistors versis of 4. :scope:

[Mickey Padge]

Welcome to xtremesystems Crashtack :)

Thats got to be whats happening on my board then :D Its always nice to get lower temps no matter how small, unless you are cold bugged ;)

[Marios]

I've seen a few posts claiming we have 8 phases with overvoltage and 4 when it is disabled.
I do not think so.
In my case all 8 mosfets are equally hot with overvoltage disabled.
I believe we have 8 phases either way (with or without overvoltage).
I would appreciate any info on the subject.

[Mickey Padge]

Are there any other boards out there with the same 8 phase power regulation?

Or is it unique to this board only?

[stone_cold_Jimi]

I've seen a few posts claiming we have 8 phases with overvoltage and 4 when it is disabled.
I do not think so.
In my case all 8 mosfets are equally hot with overvoltage disabled.
I believe we have 8 phases either way (with or without overvoltage).
I would appreciate any info on the subject.

In this very thread Marios :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1177812&postcount=622

[Marios]

I saw this post and this is why I never said my thoughts about 8 phases.
But I am not convinced.
This is a unique 8 phase board and I never saw any info on this.
When ASUS advertises A8N32-SLI Dlx as an 8 phase board I doubt this is under certain conditions, like "when enabling CPU overvoltage".

8 phase must work even at default vcore.
Otherwise someone might be able to take legal actions against ASUS.

My CPU has a vcore of 1.3 to 1.35.
Although I am stable at 1.3v without overvoltage, the basic vcore must be over 1.2v with overvoltage.
I cannot boot with a vcore under 1.2v even though I should, since 1.135+overvoltage (0.165v)=1.3v.

[Ic3man]

The same could be said of a number of things that could be changed in the bios then. CNQ, GB lanx2, SATA, Raid. All can be enabled/disabled so why not 8 phase power (CPU overvolt). I don't have a measuring tool so I couldn't tell if the 8 phase is in use with or without the overvolt enabled, just speculation. Personally I have the cpu overvolt option enabled all the time (1.2+0.2=1.4v) as it dosn't fluctuate as much underload.

[stone_cold_Jimi]

Doesn't the voltage apply in two stages, like 1.2 and then the extra 0.2 when the BIOS has come up? I'm sure I read that somewhere. It might explain why you can't boot below a certain base vcore, Marios. And I'm sure I've had the same problem myself.

Edit: this is an interesting review concerning overall power consumption and the mystery extra chipset:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article299-page1.html

[Monnie Rock]

Hello, i need help :(


My system:

Athlon FX-60
Asus a8n32-Sli Deluxe
2x 7800 gtx 256 from gigabyte
thermaltak 680w PSU
4x 512mb DDR600
X-FI fatality
76gb Raptor 10,000 RPm HDD SATA
gigabyte 3d liqued cooling for CPU
optical drive
the system is not overclocked

Have everything up to date: windows, Bios, Card drivers Ect.

No one can seem to help me with my problem maybe you guys can.

3dmark06 i score is fine just with one card. When i enable SLI whole system will shut off at aftwer the test 1.

FEAR i average about 40 Fps highest settings on one card. If i enable SLI crashes Same Exact Part everytime. Whole system shuts off. Same with all games i own., quake4 ect

I am now bald from stress, been readin your guys forums for long time now figured i finally show myself in desperate need for an answer.

Please help guys

note:
sorry for my bad english

Hello My Friend,

I had same problems and until I checked the PSU with a DVM. My questions were answered. My Thermaltake 680 was a POS !!! Moved to a PCPC 850 and never looked back.

Thanks,
Monnie

[pcdoc1]

Hello My Friend,

I had same problems and until I checked the PSU with a DVM. My questions were answered. My Thermaltake 680 was a POS !!! Moved to a PCPC 850 and never looked back.

Thanks,
MonnieWOW, glad you're happy! So the point must be it takes $500.00 PS to run a box, I think I need another beer... :) :)

Happy Trails.

[jcniest5]

Hello My Friend,

I had same problems and until I checked the PSU with a DVM. My questions were answered. My Thermaltake 680 was a POS !!! Moved to a PCPC 850 and never looked back.

Thanks,
Monnie

What exactly is the POS about your Thermaltake 680W PSU? I own one myself and I am curious to what you have found to be the problem of this PSU. Did you buy it recently or awhile back? I bought mine very recent and its wattage rating is different than what was reviewed on many sites or from the earlier units.

[Monnie Rock]

What exactly is the POS about your Thermaltake 680W PSU? I own one myself and I am curious to what you have found to be the problem of this PSU. Did you buy it recently or awhile back? I bought mine very recent and its wattage rating is different than what was reviewed on many sites or from the earlier units.


Bought it 08/05

12v rail would run 11.19v
Underload it would go to 11.00v

Started having the system crash and restart.

Then one afternoon a loud "pop" it was dead

PCDOC1,

It is not the price, I wanted something to install "once" and forget about it. To enjoy all the hardware.

[jcniest5]

Bought it 08/05

12v rail would run 11.19v
Underload it would go to 11.00v

Started having the system crash and restart.

Then one afternoon a loud "pop" it was dead



Thanks, I should measure mine and see what the real voltage/output is. In AsusProbe, it says 11.84V all the times. It says the same thing on my Enermax 535W as well. I'm beginning to think my measure isn't really accurate as it says the same thing on two PSUs. But a measurement should be able to give me the correct value.

[Marios]

Doesn't the voltage apply in two stages, like 1.2 and then the extra 0.2 when the BIOS has come up? I'm sure I read that somewhere. It might explain why you can't boot below a certain base vcore, Marios. And I'm sure I've had the same problem myself.

Edit: this is an interesting review concerning overall power consumption and the mystery extra chipset:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article299-page1.html

The mystery extra chipset on ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe is C51D.

Northbridge: C51D
Southbridge: CK804

C51 comes in two versions.
C51G is also a GPU
C51D has cut GPU capabilities

CK804 is the well known Nforce4 SLI.

http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/mloupos/G51D.pn