News: Intel soon to introduce virtualization tech

[Cooper]

On November 14th Intel will announce two models supporting Virtualization Technology (VT) - 662 (3,6 GHz) and 672 (3,8 GHz). Both have Prescott core and support all known features like XD, EIST, EM64T and HT. Apparently there isn`t any confirmations that CedarMill/Presler will support VT

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachment.php?aid=305274&noupdate=yes

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[kappa2001]

what pratical use does that techonology have?

[Mehmet_Ali]

pretty good.

[Ugly n Grey]

Virtualization is normally the ability to run separate virtual machines by allocating a percentage of overall system resources to a virtual machine. On a standard mid range Unix box, you can allocate processors, memory and storage to a virtual machine that boots and runs it's own OS. Each running entirely independant of each other.

Sorta of like a Virtual Machine running on Windows or Linux, except the support is built into hardware and no base OS is required. It's also referred to as machine paritioning. So you could truly run windows and Linux simultaneously with no dependance on each other.

This technology is an important step for Intel and AMD to move into and challenge traditional mid range markets with their products. A place they traditionally have failed to penetrate to any great degree. This mid range market remains the play ground of IBM/HP/Sun.

Intels statement on this can be found here
http://www.intel.com/technology/computing/vptech/

For further information run a google search on virtualization or machine partitioning.

This is more than multi tasking, this allows someone to balance exactly the cost of resources allocated to an effort... if a server costs a grand, and you want to allocate 400 dollars or 40 per cent of that to only serve web pages, you can do so with this technology. There are many, many uses for this tech.

UnG

[$a1Ty]

but whats the real use of it here for us in the desktop market?

[Ugly n Grey]

Who said it was aimed at the desktop market?

[Frozendeath]

Could I assume that this would be very useful with VMware ESX server? As the hardware is capable of resouce allocation.

[Ugly n Grey]

Vware would not be required whatsoever actually... the server would be capable of handling it's own virtualziation at a base level. Systems that do this usually include a service processor to act as a bootstrap...

[perkam]

what pratical use does that techonology have? Multiple Dimes/D2OL Instances on one machine...:slobber: , Cedar Mill, here I come !!!

Perkam

[nn_step]

I have no practical use.. I can already just select one operating system to run on one core and another on the other cpu core of mine...
IT is a worthless feature if you have multiable cores...

[Ugly n Grey]

Oh I see, so your computer already has machine paritioning built in and requires no other support just because it has two cores? interesting.

[nn_step]

The primary differences between SMP and Dual cores are Bandwidth, thermals, cost, power requirements, and board size...

[Ugly n Grey]

what's that have do with anything? You can't bootstrap simultaneous booting of operating systems without virtualization support at a machine level. The best you can do is load one OS and use it to bootstrap another through the use of software.

[ahmad]

what's that have do with anything? You can't bootstrap simultaneous booting of operating systems without virtualization support at a machine level. The best you can do is load one OS and use it to bootstrap another through the use of software.

I think nn_stop didn't what get what you said.

To keep it simple: you can run 2 OSes at the same time and alternate between them without having much overhead. Thats what this accomplishes.

But I just wonder if this will cut into performance for standard use? I am guessing it wouldn't, but it might depend on how they did it?

[Ugly n Grey]

I doubt performance will be an issue and I doubt consumer grade boards will support this, It will be a server option

[ahmad]

It will be a server option

Fair enough. Now AMD needs to get cracking.

[Cooper]

Fair enough. Now AMD needs to get cracking.
Well I don`t think that everybody will switch to Intel cos of VT - as it was sad this feature is more for server use. And this one is aimed at low-end servers based on desktop solutions.