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furyfax
10-25-2005, 07:02 AM
I'm really interested how the DC OPTY's perform, so I wanted to start a thread about the OC results. Unfortunately the DC OPTY's aren't available here in Norway, but i hope someone will post their results here when they get their hands on a DC OPTY!

Vassili
10-25-2005, 01:26 PM
Bookmarked this thread for sure!

I am very interested how the preform too, only thing is that they are too expensive for me. :(

waiho2k1
10-25-2005, 06:35 PM
My Dual Core Opteron (0534 SPMW) is now running at 2.7GHz with 1.45V, have been playing BF2 for hours

Fresh Daemon
10-25-2005, 10:40 PM
Is that the highest you can take it or just as far as you care to go now? I decided to skip the 939 single-core Opterons in favour of the dual-cores.

furyfax
10-25-2005, 11:34 PM
I decided to skip the 939 single-core Opterons in favour of the dual-cores.
So did I, but waiho2k1, what's the full stepping & batch on your CPU ?

Vassili
10-26-2005, 04:11 AM
My Dual Core Opteron (0534 SPMW) is now running at 2.7GHz with 1.45V, have been playing BF2 for hours
Nice result!, what is your max? :)

furyfax
10-26-2005, 09:32 AM
There must be more than one guy on XS forum that has a DC OPTERON?

MonkSP
10-26-2005, 09:46 AM
I just wish I can get an Opt 175 that does 285x10

Mats
10-28-2005, 07:06 PM
I just wish I can get an Opt 175 that does 285x10
Nobody selling pretested CPU's (http://www.trend4pc.de/index.php/cPath/78_85) in the States? If that's where you live.

And no more Opteron UP DC OC (duH..) results?

socrilles
10-28-2005, 07:10 PM
man two dual core opteron goodness..................I think that will be my next rig

bugeyes
11-01-2005, 01:34 AM
My Dual Core Opteron (0534 SPMW) is now running at 2.7GHz with 1.45V, have been playing BF2 for hours

I would like to hear more about your OSA170 :) do you have any more oc results and stepping info?

dinos22
11-01-2005, 07:11 PM
signed up :D getting a 165 soon

ixtapalapaquetl
11-01-2005, 07:15 PM
175 coming Thursday.

Gogar
11-01-2005, 11:29 PM
Any 165's for sale at a price that is more close to AMD's price for them?

dinos22
11-02-2005, 03:13 AM
Any 165's for sale at a price that is more close to AMD's price for them?
they sell for about AUD$460 including local taxes (10%)......AUD$460 roughly works out as USD$350

socrilles
11-02-2005, 03:07 PM
Just bought a 165 retail for $300 + ($7.50 for 2 day shipping), check out mWave if these hit 2.7 ghz I won't feel bad about not getting the CABNE for $220

dinos22
11-02-2005, 03:40 PM
when will you get a chance to test it out

Zebo
11-02-2005, 04:43 PM
Just got a 165 for $299.. let hope it works in motherboard.

it's still over $15 what AMD says but I was not going to miss out on early production like I did with Opteron 144/146's..

demenion
11-02-2005, 06:36 PM
Ordered the 165 from mWave as well.. Got 2 day shipping so hopefully it will be here on Saturday.

I'll post my results ASAP.

derektm
11-02-2005, 07:23 PM
Ordered the 165 from mWave as well.. Got 2 day shipping so hopefully it will be here on Saturday.

I'll post my results ASAP.

Should I get a 165 or 170. :stick: :stick:

infiniti029
11-02-2005, 07:30 PM
Ordered the 165 from mWave as well.. Got 2 day shipping so hopefully it will be here on Saturday.

I'll post my results ASAP.

Just ordered mine too, my results will be up Sunday probably.

bmac11
11-02-2005, 08:24 PM
Please post steppings and weeks when you guys get them.

I might get a 170 soon.. I'de rather pay the extra $80 to get a higher binned chip.

derektm
11-02-2005, 08:38 PM
Please post steppings and weeks when you guys get them.

I might get a 170 soon.. I'de rather pay the extra $80 to get a higher binned chip.

Maybe a higher binned chip maybe but maybe not as good of a stepping ... hmmm :stick:

Schneider
11-02-2005, 08:53 PM
The dual cores should be fine for 2.5-2.7 easy.
Mezmerise and nvidiaxp over @ OCAU r running there 175's @ 2.8 and 3Ghz both with around 1.55 or 1.6v. Dinos can probably confirm that :p:

My 165 can do 2.5 @ ~1.4v 2.6 @ ~1.45.....but my board doesn't work with any settings over 290 for some reason. Even clockgen in windows can't push it further :(

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39437&stc=1

socrilles
11-02-2005, 09:15 PM
3 ghz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, w/ what cooling??

TuKo
11-02-2005, 10:59 PM
I should be getting a 180 today, will post results later.

derektm
11-03-2005, 06:03 AM
Just ordered a 170 Dual Opty!

Amount: $387.00 USD
Shipping & Handling: $8.94 USD
Total Amount: $395.94 USD

Ugh..... my money my money... :P

mad mikee
11-03-2005, 06:35 AM
:hm: :toast:




Just ordered a 170 Dual Opty!


Amount: $387.00 USD
Shipping & Handling: $8.94 USD
Total Amount: $395.94 USD

Ugh..... my money my money... :P

Ender17
11-03-2005, 07:52 AM
maybe I should replace my 4400+ with a 175

demenion
11-03-2005, 12:50 PM
My 165 already shipped from Mwave..

saids it will be here on MONDAY. ugh I upgraded to two day shipping so I would get it on Saturday =[

Zebo
11-03-2005, 01:14 PM
Man MWAVE is fast ordered yesterday night got here today!!!

Dually 165 (http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~smanning/DSCF0071.jpg)

Will post stock air screens shortly

trans am
11-03-2005, 01:48 PM
Sweet!
THanks man,
I just ordered a 170 from Mwave.

Pray to the overclock gods!

derektm
11-03-2005, 02:20 PM
Sweet!
THanks man,
I just ordered a 170 from Mwave.

Pray to the overclock gods!

W000t....we have ordered same chip... look out for some 170 Dual pwnage! :slobber:

socrilles
11-03-2005, 03:02 PM
zebo, pls let us know how it does on the stock air cooling, curious if 2.6 ghz will be possible with ease.

racinjimy
11-03-2005, 07:29 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/racinjimy/IMG_0936.jpg
just got my 175!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


same stepping as fareastgq, both from Monarch

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78500 (fareastgq first look opty 175)

Jester FPS
11-03-2005, 07:32 PM
I don't recognize that stepping :(

ixtapalapaquetl
11-03-2005, 07:34 PM
just got my 175!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I have exact same week/stepping. Priming 2900 at 1.4 now. Let me know how it reacts to high temperatures and high voltage - mine doesn't seem to like either. Gonna take off the IHS tomorrow.

NinjaWreck
11-03-2005, 08:06 PM
Are you guys buying retail or OEM?

racinjimy
11-03-2005, 08:11 PM
Are you guys buying retail or OEM?


retail was cheaper at Monarch......................

ozzimark
11-03-2005, 08:30 PM
I don't recognize that stepping :(
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=888001

i see it a lot ;)

dinos22
11-03-2005, 08:50 PM
I have exact same week/stepping. Priming 2900 at 1.4 now. Let me know how it reacts to high temperatures and high voltage - mine doesn't seem to like either. Gonna take off the IHS tomorrow.
priming at 2.9GHz WTF that's awesome

Zebo
11-03-2005, 09:02 PM
zebo, pls let us know how it does on the stock air cooling, curious if 2.6 ghz will be possible with ease.


I got 2660 on stock HSF before frying my POS epox. Now I'm on POS ASROCK and that board undervolts by .1 and already has a crappy 1.4 max..so 1.3 volts.

http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~smanning/2400.JPG

Anyway need to hit frys for new mobo or break down my water setup and use ABIT before really testing out..ok.

trans am
11-03-2005, 10:48 PM
I have exact same week/stepping. Priming 2900 at 1.4 now. Let me know how it reacts to high temperatures and high voltage - mine doesn't seem to like either.

why would it like high temperatures?

Vapor
11-03-2005, 10:52 PM
What, your CPU doesn't like it where the sun is shade? :D

ixtapalapaquetl
11-04-2005, 03:30 AM
Rather than go back and forth, I think I am going to just continue posting in the main (stickied) thread. Look for future results there. 2900 primed for 7hrs 11min so far. Will continue priming until this evening.

http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/6616/175early294qn.png (http://imageshack.us)

trans am
11-04-2005, 05:52 AM
Sweet! :toast:

Zebo
11-04-2005, 08:48 AM
Rather than go back and forth, I think I am going to just continue posting in the main (stickied) thread. Look for future results there. 2900 primed for 7hrs 11min so far. Will continue priming until this evening.

http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/6616/175early294qn.png (http://imageshack.us)
Stock cooler? Step?

Pyr0
11-04-2005, 08:59 AM
wow this really makes me want to sell my 4400+ chip and get an opteron

ocZZ
11-04-2005, 09:22 AM
Just got this a few mins ago, its a Opteron 165 CCBWE 0534 from mwave. Think I'm going to sell my 148 :)

Zebo
11-04-2005, 09:24 AM
Just got this a few mins ago, its a Opteron 165 CCBWE 0534 from mwave. Think I'm going to sell my 148 :)
Nice!! I got same date. What cooling? I can't get past 2.6 on stock HSF. Gets way hot when pimming like 77C
http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~smanning/2609start.jpg

ocZZ
11-04-2005, 09:26 AM
All Copper Zalman, I am loving this CPU so far :)

demenion
11-04-2005, 09:36 AM
Just got this a few mins ago, its a Opteron 165 CCBWE 0534 from mwave. Think I'm going to sell my 148 :)

Awesome. hope I get the same stepping from mwave..

socrilles
11-04-2005, 10:29 AM
man my order got delayed because i had the wrong phone number with my billing address (how do you like them apples)

mwave has been good about contacting me though

socrilles
11-04-2005, 10:32 AM
hey ocZZ, are you using that DFI for the overclock?

ocZZ
11-04-2005, 10:41 AM
yes, ultra-d, 2nd core was failing at that speed. Dropped it to 2.75ghz@ 1.53v and so far it seems good.

Zebo
11-04-2005, 02:17 PM
Guys my temps are just going crazy. 78C loaded with themalright & 120mm x 38mm high pressure delta fan. Im afriad to prime test anymore cause AMD say 67C for this processor.

http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~smanning/temps.jpg

Do I got a problem in between processor and lid? This is pissing me off.

furyfax
11-04-2005, 02:21 PM
Must be a really bad contact!

racinjimy
11-05-2005, 08:01 PM
I have exact same week/stepping. Priming 2900 at 1.4 now. Let me know how it reacts to high temperatures and high voltage - mine doesn't seem to like either. Gonna take off the IHS tomorrow.


just pulled off my IHS as well

I hadn't even started to raise voltage just mHz but was getting significant increases in temps

temps dropped from 38C at load to 31-32C at load (on a Swiftech STORM)

1.375V*104%

280X10= 2800mHz and rising..........................

waiho2k1
11-06-2005, 08:52 AM
Rather than go back and forth, I think I am going to just continue posting in the main (stickied) thread. Look for future results there. 2900 primed for 7hrs 11min so far. Will continue priming until this evening.

http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/6616/175early294qn.png (http://imageshack.us)
yours the sweetest so far!

racinjimy
11-06-2005, 09:05 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/racinjimy/screen.jpg

still running pretty low V-core 1.325 X 110%

I am fighting with low memory benches, I wonder if it is the divider I run or the MAL/read preamble which seem pretty loose (on AUTO in BIOS)?

ixtapalapaquetl
11-06-2005, 09:29 AM
yours the sweetest so far!Thanks. Up to 2.95GHz prime stable (on air); will post a screen a little later. Going for 2.97GHz or so today... Might also take a look at max SuperPi 32M; don't use this myself for stability but lots here do. Low priority though.

demenion
11-06-2005, 09:32 AM
Thanks. Up to 2.95GHz prime stable (on air); will post a screen a little later. Going for 2.97GHz or so today... Might also take a look at max SuperPi 32M; don't use this myself for stability but lots here do. Low priority though.

Looks really good..what was the stepping on yours again?

ixtapalapaquetl
11-06-2005, 09:40 AM
Looks really good..what was the stepping on yours again?CCBWE 0530TPMW - in my sig.

Ub3r-L33ch
11-06-2005, 12:26 PM
Can you guys tell me what online sites tell you what stepping the cores are? And if you have a moment list me off a few of the ones I should look for in the 175 series. I'm going to be buying my new parts in the next week or two. Thanks.

infiniti029
11-06-2005, 01:19 PM
ixtapalapaquetl: you're doing this on air with an xp-90? wow.

Xchus
11-06-2005, 01:56 PM
I just bought my opteron 165 at monarch for 287$ hopefully I can OC the crap out of that one just like the Opterons they show here. I would love to have a 2.8GHz at stock.

dinos22
11-06-2005, 02:22 PM
CCBWE 0530TPMW - in my sig.
these steppings are looking promising.......seems that australian ones 0534SPMW are not as good but still decent..........one is a 2.85GHz with 1.65v (also keep in mind it's pretty hot here) second one is on phase at 3GHz with stock vcore i think

some of the 165 CPUs are doing around 2.7GHz...........

ixtapalapaquetl
11-06-2005, 02:38 PM
ixtapalapaquetl: you're doing this on air with an xp-90? wow.Yep. Bottom of HS is notched pretty badly by an old naked core too! Need to lap it real bad. Here's the 2.95 shot. Fighting for 3.0 again now. Large FFT's keep failing in minutes.

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/170/175295prime3d010si.png (http://imageshack.us)

fareastgq
11-06-2005, 06:01 PM
ixtapalapaquetl and racinjimmy, I ordered a dfi-cf, should be here wed or thurs. I'll be running with everything in sig, as of right now, with the IHS off, idle temp for me is 26c, (that's what my board says, I have no idea what it really is, and I have to vaccum off the dust from the front of my 302 too :P ) Guys, looks like we really lucked out. Whoever wants that stepping better order it retail from monarch FAST (i'm talking about the 175!!! nothing else, don't be mad if you order a diff chip model and don't get that stepping, as of right now, as far as any of us know, that stepping does not exist for any other model). Of course, I'm pretty sure you'll get it slow as hell, I almost cancelled on the last day that they actually sent me the tracking # for the chip. Since this is the dual core opty thread, I'll only be updating my own thread (with more indepth analysis) and this thread with just some benches and screenies, and a sucide shot or two, hehe.

racinjimy
11-06-2005, 06:20 PM
well I have decided on what my max 24/7 will be

I run climateprediction.net, which in my opinion is even more intense and prone to errors than prime95

SO

24/7 is 285X10 with a 5/6 divider for 2850 and 237 on my VX
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/racinjimy/screen.jpg

and max benchable so far for me is:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/racinjimy/2915.jpg

I tried for 3 gHz and it was a no go even cranking up the volts, I never had a CPU temp issue BUT my PWMIC went to like 60C under load at 273X11 with 1.425 X 110% (1.61V) to the CPU under two instances of superPI and I have GREAT case airflow with an intake blowhole over my ram.........

IvanAndreevich
11-06-2005, 07:38 PM
Monarch has the 165 in stock for a decent price -
OEM: http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=120339&AFFIL=dt&NR=1

Retail: http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=120338

Damn, if I didn't have this X2 already I would BUY BUY BUY!

ixtapalapaquetl
11-07-2005, 02:57 AM
Had another go at 3GHz, got beat back down to 2.97GHz. Will leave it here till I can lap the Venice core indentations out of my HS.

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/1346/175297prime9mc.png (http://imageshack.us)

Memory still loose:

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/5452/175297a648ey.png (http://imageshack.us)

demenion
11-07-2005, 11:54 AM
Got my 165 today.. CCBWE 0534

gotta run to class but I am priming at 2475 MHz @ 1.31V at the moment.

terrordemon
11-07-2005, 12:10 PM
so the ccbwe 170's can get 2800/2900 on air (xp90) with relative ease? And is it worth paying the 50 or so extra dollars on monarch for the retail 170 kit? or just get the OEM and spend the rest of the money to get an xp90?

thanks

terrordemon
11-07-2005, 12:13 PM
sorry for the double post, but at what volts are these chips safe to have on air? I see a lot of people on around 1.5 but with only air and having base volts be 1.3, it seems like a big jump

so is an increase in .2ish volts safe with an xp90?

demenion
11-07-2005, 12:57 PM
i seem to be hitting the 2.8 GHz limit like everyone else.. priming at 1.56V @ 2.8 Ghz (aircooled scythe ninja)

harpyboy
11-07-2005, 01:10 PM
i seem to be hitting the 2.8 GHz limit like everyone else.. priming at 1.56V @ 2.08 Ghz (aircooled scythe ninja)

i thought u r running for class ??? :D

harpyboy
11-07-2005, 01:10 PM
i should be getting mine today.... not sure why the fedex is so late today

2.8Ghz really isn't shabby for a 165 u know

demenion
11-07-2005, 01:23 PM
i thought u r running for class ??? :D

one of my classes were canceled today :)

anyway.. seems like core1 is a bit flakey..

probably gonna remount.. my temps seem a little high..

i really want to take off the IHS but im scared ill crush the chip when mounting my scythe ninja back on.

harpyboy
11-07-2005, 02:12 PM
one of my classes were canceled today :)

anyway.. seems like core1 is a bit flakey..

probably gonna remount.. my temps seem a little high..

i really want to take off the IHS but im scared ill crush the chip when mounting my scythe ninja back on.

what's ur temp like ?
mine is priming 2.4 at 60C

it could be my motherboard.... it has a record on reporting 10c above actual on some CPU..

aicjofs
11-07-2005, 02:17 PM
Wow 60C. Little guys run warm huh?

Jupiler
11-07-2005, 03:40 PM
Nice results guys. Keep'm coming.
Stickied. ;)

Haltech
11-07-2005, 05:09 PM
one of my classes were canceled today :)

anyway.. seems like core1 is a bit flakey..

probably gonna remount.. my temps seem a little high..

i really want to take off the IHS but im scared ill crush the chip when mounting my scythe ninja back on.

I run a Cathar Storm on my NF4. I had to make my own mount kit with screws. Ive removed my IHS and have my block torqued down a LOT to decrease load temps. I believe these cores are a hell of a lot stronger than anything back in the XP days, so i wouldnt worry about it.

Im kinda pissed now. I didnt pull the trigger when i should have on the Retail 165 and now its out of stock at monarch. I dunno if i wanna try an OEM. What do you guys think?

Nevermind, OEM is out of stock too.. Hmm, take a gamble on a 170?

Supertim0r
11-07-2005, 05:30 PM
we need those opty here (canada) :mad:

demenion
11-07-2005, 05:34 PM
Still tweaking.. Core 1 still likes to fail Prime95 Small FTT's. I went back down to 2.7 GHz (300x9)

I remounted my HSF and cleaned up some cables.. temps are a bit better..

Dual priming at 1.45V @ 2.7 GHz, only been going for 10 minutes though.

Temps:
48C Load
57C PWM IC :(
49C Chipset

I know dualcore = high PWM IC temps.. but i think its above average.. My case cooling isn't that bad..

Have a P180 with 4 120mm fans inside.

dinos22
11-07-2005, 05:43 PM
Still tweaking.. Core 1 still likes to fail Prime95 Small FTT's. I went back down to 2.7 GHz (300x9)

I remounted my HSF and cleaned up some cables.. temps are a bit better..

Dual priming at 1.45V @ 2.7 GHz, only been going for 10 minutes though.

Temps:
48C Load
57C PWM IC :(
49C Chipset

I know dualcore = high PWM IC temps.. but i think its above average.. My case cooling isn't that bad..

Have a P180 with 4 120mm fans inside.
HAVE YOU GOT DIRECT FAN OVER PWM

i didn't know dual core causes higher PWN temps............

dogsx2
11-07-2005, 06:01 PM
Unreal. I just was looking for a certain stepping opty on Google and in most of the forums, you were there. I come back to XS and the first thing I see is your name. LOL

You have to be the most traveled oc'er on the forums. Do you ever sleep? :)

Take your time going, just hurry back. :D

racinjimy
11-07-2005, 06:01 PM
HAVE YOU GOT DIRECT FAN OVER PWM

i didn't know dual core causes higher PWN temps............

oh they certainly do.........................

once I got into the >1.5V vcore my PWMIC temps went to nearly 60C at load WITH an intake blowhole fan over the memory/PWMIC

harpyboy
11-07-2005, 09:27 PM
my evga free motherboard is killing my overclock of this 165...
i will report back again when my ultra-d reaches this week....

dinos22
11-07-2005, 09:31 PM
Unreal. I just was looking for a certain stepping opty on Google and in most of the forums, you were there. I come back to XS and the first thing I see is your name. LOL

You have to be the most traveled oc'er on the forums. Do you ever sleep? :)

Take your time going, just hurry back. :D
:rocker: ...........it's a little scary that even my fellow forumers thing i hang out around here too much heheheh....i guess i'll just....hmm...maybe not heheheh

dogsx2
11-07-2005, 09:39 PM
:rocker: ...........it's a little scary that even my fellow forumers thing i hang out around here too much heheheh....i guess i'll just....hmm...maybe not heheheh

I'm just a little dog but I sure like hanging out where the big dogs run.

dinos22
11-07-2005, 09:49 PM
I'm just a little dog but I sure like hanging out where the big dogs run.
i'm kinda retiring in a way....just bought an Asus SLI Premium board cause i can't be arsed waiting for Expert...........also dual core....so yeah i'm happy....i started off with Deluxe board and now ended up on Premium with a couple of DFIs and Abit in between....so it's all good :D

bmac11
11-07-2005, 09:51 PM
Just got rid of a 146 CABYE 0540 :) I want dual!!!


What model and stepping should I try to find? CCBWE 0530? I will be under phase so giving it juice for a high oc isn't a problem.

I'm dunno if I should wait for prices to come down for the higher models.. and that doesn't even guarantee a better oc correct? Should I just spend the money now for the 165?

rick_fx
11-07-2005, 10:18 PM
we need those opty here (canada) :mad:

Buy them from Monarch ;)

demenion
11-07-2005, 10:24 PM
Ok.. does this sound like a temp problem... ?

I can single prime small FTT on core 1 fine.. CPU 1 is 100% while CPU 0 is 0%

however, when i run two instances and set each affinity, where CPU 1 and 0 are both 100% @ the same time... CPU 1 will fail in a couple of minutes, and CPU 0 will keep going.

basically, CPU 1 is able to prime 100% cpu usage as long as CPU 0 is idle.

fareastgq
11-07-2005, 10:26 PM
Just got rid of a 146 CABYE 0540 :) I want dual!!!


What model and stepping should I try to find? CCBWE 0530? I will be under phase so giving it juice for a high oc isn't a problem.

I'm dunno if I should wait for prices to come down for the higher models.. and that doesn't even guarantee a better oc correct? Should I just spend the money now for the 165?

waiting is bad for getting a hot stepping. your best bet is opty 165/170/175 retail from monarch. I bet in a couple weeks, those steppings will poof.

bmac11
11-08-2005, 12:05 AM
waiting is bad for getting a hot stepping. your best bet is opty 165/170/175 retail from monarch. I bet in a couple weeks, those steppings will poof.

and since the eta isn't till the end of the month for the 165s.. I know they won't be any similar steppings to whats out now.

I'm not sure if the opys will follow this pattern though. For the single core ones, CABYE 0540 was ocing just as well as the CABNE 0530, maybe just 100mhz less. They were running about 10*c less and with less voltage. I think those benefits would out weigh an extra 100mhz clock.

Guess I'll bite the bullet and try one. 170 OEM or Retail?

shiznit93
11-08-2005, 01:30 AM
OMFG!!! i had no idea these 939 opterons even existed. my X2 3800 is now officially on sale and as soon as i sell it im getting a dual core opteron. what do you think guys, 170 oem from monarch or 165 retail from mwave or 170 retail from mwave ?? i wanna maximize my chances at a good oc. thank you xtremesystems.

biohead
11-08-2005, 04:07 AM
it's about luck so i guess a retail 165 will do if u can handle high htt.

MonkSP
11-08-2005, 04:09 AM
I think the best onsidering price will be 165. I have one doubt and I am not sure this is the right place.

I ordered a 165 yesterday from monarch when there was stock. Now it says this message:

ETA November 28
Ship dates may change. Please check back here for most current ETA date.
Temporarily Out of Stock - Now taking back orders on a first come, first serve basis

This means I might not receive my opt 165 now? I am sorry but I am from europe and sometimes my english is not that good. Tkx!

phadeout
11-08-2005, 08:08 AM
we need those opty here (canada) :mad:

Supertim0r,

Hi, new to Xtreme been been lurking for quite sometime (takes forever to get the account active....).

I am planning to build a new pc, and the opty 175 is what I wanted. In Canada I've searched for 146,148,165,170 and 175 opty's. I found ONE place that has/had 3 opty 175's, and havn't found nothing else! :clap:

My 175 should be here by the end of the week. Can't test, but hoping for the CCBWE maybe?... My source will let me send it back if someone knows it's a bad stepping, but that is tough to say since not many people have a 175.

I will not be able to test until my new Mobo comes in, which won't be for 2-3 weeks :slap:

The source I have works for:
www.insight.ca

The opty 175 is skued if you search for it on insight.ca, but it does not show stock, though they did have 3 (not sure if it will show stock online... since they have lots of distributors... supposedly the opty 175 distributor was in Toronto, but they wouldn't tell me the name - though it was not a retail place anyways...)

Phadeout

ixtapalapaquetl
11-08-2005, 08:24 AM
hoping for the CCBWE maybe?...I think most are CCBWE's. More likely the important factor to consider is the week. Some at OCAU with 0534SPMW's aren't doing nearly as well as what I've seen from 0530TPMW's. Let me know if you see information suggestiing otherwise.

phadeout
11-08-2005, 08:30 AM
Yeah, was hoping for the 0530, we will see I guess.

Oh, and I didn't have to pay the outragous price of 750CA listed on Insight... got a nice discount you could say... hope it's good!

demenion
11-08-2005, 10:03 AM
http://img428.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opteron1654zg.jpg
http://img428.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opteron1654zg.jpg

Zebo
11-08-2005, 11:11 AM
I think most are CCBWE's. More likely the important factor to consider is the week. Some at OCAU with 0534SPMW's aren't doing nearly as well as what I've seen from 0530TPMW's. Let me know if you see information suggestiing otherwise.


That's my observations as well. 0530TPMW's are CABNE 0530 of the dual core world.. I don't think it is coincidence they were made same week... 0530 :p:

terrordemon
11-08-2005, 11:21 AM
http://img428.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opteron1654zg.jpg
http://img428.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opteron1654zg.jpg

give that thing more volts!

on a related note, i bought a 165 retail from mwave, but the order hasnt been approved because i messed up on billing address, but should be fixed soon.

cmon CCBWE 0530!

shiznit93
11-08-2005, 11:38 AM
can a 170 be ccbwe 0530? are you more likely to get a better chip with a retail box? i ask because monarchs 170 oem+3year warranty is almost the same price as mwaves 170 retail. also, do these opterons have more hypertransport links than the athlons? thanks.

Zeus...
11-08-2005, 12:50 PM
also, do these opterons have more hypertransport links than the athlons? thanks.

Good question - I was thinking that myself

Perc
11-08-2005, 01:46 PM
hey guys

quik question on buying one of these chips. what is everyone buying the OEM or the Retial? what should i get OEM or Retail im ordering from monarch computers the 170 model..

thx perc,

Zebo
11-08-2005, 02:12 PM
Always buy retail.. 3 years warranty plus you get like a $20 HSF you can sell. It's pretty nice with heat pipes and relativly quiet.
http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~smanning/DSCF0073.jpg

bmac11
11-08-2005, 03:07 PM
Has anyone received one from monarch recently?

Repoman
11-08-2005, 03:19 PM
No, since they changed their ship date even to people who already ordered..

They did the same thing with single core opterons, I know I'll not use monarch anymore

DarthOverlord
11-08-2005, 03:49 PM
Hello. I am new to XtremeSystems. Great site. Very informative.

Anyway, my question is: Do you guys remove the heat sink cover from the cpu before overclocking this chip to such insane levels? How much cooler does the chip get? Thanks.

jsriolo
11-08-2005, 03:50 PM
I ordered a 170 from monarch last night and it shipped today. I don't know about the 165s, but I didn't have any trouble. Well, the chip is getting here thursday, but I'm not going to have much chance to test it till next week! Tell you all about it then!

Perc
11-08-2005, 04:17 PM
I ordered a 170 from monarch last night and it shipped today. I don't know about the 165s, but I didn't have any trouble. Well, the chip is getting here thursday, but I'm not going to have much chance to test it till next week! Tell you all about it then!

yes please pm me when you recieve that cpu let me know what stepping you wound up with. im fixin to order but would like to know what steppin is shipping with the OEMs atm....

thx perc,

003
11-08-2005, 04:27 PM
Hello. I am new to XtremeSystems. Great site. Very informative.

Anyway, my question is: Do you guys remove the heat sink cover from the cpu before overclocking this chip to such insane levels? How much cooler does the chip get? Thanks.
You can but you don't have to. I don't do it. It only lowers temps several degrees anyway.

bmac11
11-08-2005, 05:18 PM
can a 170 be ccbwe 0530?

I would also like to know this.. I don't know if I can cough up the loot for a 175.

tatts
11-08-2005, 05:29 PM
im thinking of giving a dual core a try, not sure which to go for though, 165 is £230 & 170 is £300, is the 170 worth the extra or is the 165 clocking well?
ive read through this thread but no one seems to be posting model or steppings?

fareastgq
11-08-2005, 05:34 PM
stepping below ordered from monarch 2 weeks ago. (yes that's how long it took to get to me)

infiniti029
11-08-2005, 05:38 PM
my 165 from monarch...
CCBWE 0534SPMW

still doing testing, will post some numbers soon.

dinos22
11-08-2005, 05:43 PM
my 165 from monarch...
CCBWE 0534SPMW

still doing testing, will post some numbers soon.
all aussie ones are the same stepping..... it should be good for 2.6-2.8

QettoE
11-08-2005, 06:05 PM
Comparing to you guys I don't know squat... but this is where I've got tonight with a Zalman CNPS9500 LED. I didn't play around for long but I might be able to go higher.

It's a CDBWE 0534SPMW

<a href="http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2759ro.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7862/2759ro.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

infiniti029
11-08-2005, 06:09 PM
all aussie ones are the same stepping..... it should be good for 2.6-2.8

what forums are they at? i'd like to see what kinda voltage they used with air.

Poki
11-08-2005, 06:13 PM
Comparing to you guys I don't know squat... but this is where I've got tonight with a Zalman CNPS9500 LED. I didn't play around for long but I might be able to go higher.

It's a CDBWE 0534SPMW

<a href="http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2759ro.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7862/2759ro.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>
That doesn't look bad at all to me, i would be happy with it :toast:

ixtapalapaquetl
11-08-2005, 06:18 PM
Comparing to you guys I don't know squat... but this is where I've got tonight with a Zalman CNPS9500 LED. I didn't play around for long but I might be able to go higher.

It's a CDBWE 0534SPMWAssuming your temps are low, you have some more head room voltage wise. I'd take it up as far as 1.55V so long as you are still getting more clockspeed. Mine starts getting crashy when I go too high, so I have a good feel when I need to back down.

ixtapalapaquetl
11-08-2005, 06:20 PM
what forums are they at? i'd like to see what kinda voltage they used with air.Look at OCAU.com. They have a big Opteron thread, and the first post has some results compiled. If only that jerk at dfi-street would have the consideration to do the same...

pcdoc1
11-08-2005, 06:20 PM
Comparing to you guys I don't know squat... but this is where I've got tonight with a Zalman CNPS9500 LED. I didn't play around for long but I might be able to go higher.

It's a CDBWE 0534SPMW

<a href="http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2759ro.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7862/2759ro.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>QettoE: Nice clock for a dually....... :) :) I'll have one tomorrow from MWave, gives me a target....

QettoE
11-08-2005, 06:22 PM
Assuming your temps are low, you have some more head room voltage wise. I'd take it up as far as 1.55V so long as you are still getting more clockspeed. Mine starts getting crashy when I go too high, so I have a good feel when I need to back down.

Thanks... I will do that. With 1.500 this is the max I can get.

infiniti029
11-08-2005, 06:37 PM
So what are considered safe temps with the dual core Opterons? The mfg spec is like 67C. With my Opt165 @ 2.5ghz, 1.4v I already hit 54C. Aircooled with an XP-90.

QettoE
11-08-2005, 06:46 PM
It's not going over 2800 with 1.550 :(. I need more grapes to crank the VID any higher!!!

<a href="http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28018jy.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8508/28018jy.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

nloding
11-08-2005, 08:12 PM
After my current upgrade of DFI's new SLI-DR Expert board, some Geil One RAM, and an Opteron 146 CABYE, I'm going dual core. I can only afford about $300 on the proc though. Obviously these are at least equal to the 3800+ ... does anyone have any realworld benchmarks of the dual-core Opteron vs. X2?? Or really any real-world benches to compare with known X2 benches?

The 165 Opty and the 3800+ X2 are about the same price, and seem, from the clock speeds, to be about the same -- but the cache makes the Opty better in my eyes, though I'm closer to a n00b than a Guru so my opinion is moot.

I loved Doom 3 and Quake 4 is fun as hell, so I'd obviously see performance gains in those no matter which dual-core I went with. But which is better for everyday tasks, like ripping DVD's and encoding and all that fun schtuff?

--Nathan

uOpt
11-08-2005, 08:37 PM
Or really any real-world benches to compare with known X2 benches?

The 165 Opty and the 3800+ X2 are about the same price, and seem, from the clock speeds, to be about the same -- but the cache makes the Opty better in my eyes, though I'm closer to a n00b than a Guru so my opinion is moot.


I'd take the clockspeed over the cache any day.

Here are my Opteron versus 512 KB cache chip benchmarks. They don't have a 165 but they have 2.0 GHz dual Opterons and they have a 939 single-core Opteron, against Venice and x2 3800+:
http://cracauer-forum.cons.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28

As you can see, none of my real world apps take much advantage of the cache, with the exception of compiling the Linux kernel. But even if that 200 MHz more clockspeed do better than the bigger cache.

shiznit93
11-08-2005, 10:43 PM
these socket 939 operons work with regular non-ECC memory correct? i spent good $ on my 2 x 1024 kit and i dont wanna waste it.

bmac11
11-08-2005, 11:22 PM
Just from skimming those benchmarks.. theres a lot more there than is needed to prove the extra 512 cache isn't that useful. Its not even very uniform.

I'de take the extra cache over an extra 200mhz. With apps and games getting larger by what seems like the month, it will probably be more useful in a year or two. If you're going for benches and replace cpus a few times a year, then I'de take the mhz.

plus, the dual core opys are ocing pretty well!

bmac11
11-08-2005, 11:24 PM
these socket 939 operons work with regular non-ECC memory correct? i spent good $ on my 2 x 1024 kit and i dont wanna waste it.

Thats just a recommendation from AMD.

demenion
11-09-2005, 12:52 AM
Just took off the IHS for the first time.. not sure how good the contact is between the CPU / Heatsink. (Scythe Ninja)

Seemed to help alittle, not sure if it was really worth destroying my AMD warranty.. Oh well. (Was my first time removing the IHS.. ) :)

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7806/ihs6fd7tm.th.jpg (http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ihs6fd7tm.jpg)

furyfax
11-09-2005, 03:38 AM
Just ordered a 165! What steppings are good, I'll post my stepping when I receive my new baby! :toast:

uOpt
11-09-2005, 04:48 AM
these socket 939 operons work with regular non-ECC memory correct? i spent good $ on my 2 x 1024 kit and i dont wanna waste it.

I think you mix up ECC with registered/buffered.

Socket 940 CPUs require registered/buffered RAM and can do ECC or non--ECC.

Socket 939 and socket 754 CPUs require unregistered/unbuffered RAM and can do ECC or non-ECC. Most 939 and 754 mainboards do not support ECC but you can still use ECC modules (error correction just doesn't happen).

shiznit93
11-09-2005, 06:40 AM
ok thanks, i have no reason not to get one of these now. I wonder how they will do with the 8-phase power in the new asus sli32 motherboard i might get (if it wasnt for the retarded layout, htf do they expec people to sli and use a sound card?).

MonkSP
11-09-2005, 06:46 AM
Unfortunately, we have just been informed by AMD directly that there was a manufacturing issue that occurred on this particular processor. AMD does not expect to have stock on this processor until the end of this month, and that may change depending on the manufacturing process.

Damn Monarch. Thery charge the credit card and ship nothing. I will never EVER buy anything from monarch again. its a pain to cancell this now. Damn them!

shiznit93
11-09-2005, 06:52 AM
i thought the law required etailers not to charge CC until they have the item in stock and ready to ship? i wonder what the manufacturing problem was.

MonkSP
11-09-2005, 06:56 AM
I though that too! It would not say anything if they didn't charge it. Now they did charge and ship on 5th decemebr? WTF is this?

*update*

What to cancell? Think twice:


Monarch Computer Systems reserves the right to impose a 15% custom order cancellation fee for the cancellation of any order relating to a custom system after such an order has been placed by the Customer. Any purchases made with American Express credit cards may be subject to an additional charge of up to 3% on returns at the sole discretion of Monarch Computer Systems. This additional charge on returns does not apply to purchases made with other credit cards or to American Express purchases that use PayPal.

They did confirm that if I cancell they will charge those 15%

003
11-09-2005, 07:07 AM
Haha guys, this makes me really happy, I just got this e-mail from monarch:

Update!

Shortly after we sent our last email to you, AMD contacted us to let us know that they were able to get a partial shipment of the OEM Opteron 165 processors out to us. (Enough to cover our existing orders) We are expecting these to arrive shortly, so we WILL be able to ship these chips out to you much sooner than expected. I do apologize for the confusion, but I wanted to inform you as quickly as possible of the recent development.

Thank you,

Monarch Computer Systems, Inc.
It just shipped last night and is scheduled to arrive here tommorrow!! I will post my results asap.

shiznit93
11-09-2005, 07:11 AM
not bad, at least they had cause to charge the CC. i can't wait for your results, i'm gonna buy wither a 165 or a 170 as soon as my X2 3800 sells.

MonkSP
11-09-2005, 07:49 AM
I hope this turns out right and I get my 165. I will post info when I get it.

QettoE
11-09-2005, 09:09 AM
Newegg had a price drop. 170 retail for 402.00 and 165 OEM for 289.00. Forget about Monarc and Mwave for now.

furyfax
11-09-2005, 09:26 AM
Is the 0530 TPMW stepping available to the 165,or is it just the 170's seen with this stepping ?

Zeus...
11-09-2005, 11:27 AM
Its alright for u guys theres no sign off any dual core opterons here in the UK :mad: and i had just convinced myself to get a 4800x2 because off fading mem controllers and the dual core opterons get released, well in your neck off the woods surpose I will have to wait longer for the release of the A8N32 than u guys too - and to top it all the Asus 'Extreme TOP Edition' nVidia GeForce 7800GTX 256MB has gone out off stock and is unavailible.

Just when u decide what u want its all out off stock or not in the UK :mad: :mad: :mad:

shiznit93
11-09-2005, 11:28 AM
mwave still cheaper

QettoE
11-09-2005, 11:46 AM
Its alright for u guys theres no sign off any dual core opterons here in the UK :mad: and i had just convinced myself to get a 4800x2 because off fading mem controllers and the dual core opterons get released, well in your neck off the woods surpose I will have to wait longer for the release of the A8N32 than u guys too - and to top it all the Asus 'Extreme TOP Edition' nVidia GeForce 7800GTX 256MB has gone out off stock and is unavailible.

Just when u decide what u want its all out off stock or not in the UK :mad: :mad: :mad:

Don't you have anyone in the US? If so just send them the cash and have them buy/ship them to you. I'm not sure how much duty you'll have to pay, though.

MonkSP
11-09-2005, 12:32 PM
Don't you have anyone in the US? If so just send them the cash and have them buy/ship them to you. I'm not sure how much duty you'll have to pay, though.


That is what I am doing and shipping here. We have to pay the VAT which is 17.5 in UK and in my case 21% ( we have to pay taxes twice in US and in EU.... :slapass: )

pcdoc1
11-09-2005, 02:21 PM
Just fired up an Opty 170 – CCBWE 0530TPMW.

Haven’t had much time but it’s a slam 10@270 at stock voltage…..Been running Prime for 20 min. 9 X 310 (2790) @ 1.42 and looking good so far. I’ll put it under water and take some pics after it runs a few hours………. ;)

shiznit93
11-09-2005, 02:25 PM
wow, what kinda load temps?

dinos22
11-09-2005, 02:30 PM
got my one this morning

Opteron 165 Dual Core (CCBWE 0536MPMW)

NEW Stepping :eek: hope it's a good one :lol:
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3011/opteron3fr.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opteron3fr.jpg)

demenion
11-09-2005, 02:37 PM
got my one this morning

Opteron 165 Dual Core (CCBWE 0536MPMW)

NEW Stepping :eek: hope it's a good one :lol:
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3011/opteron3fr.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opteron3fr.jpg)

Let me know how it does!

Other 165 users..

anyone put over 1.56V in it yet? my chip doesn't seem to like any more voltage.

Right now I'm prime stable at 2.75 GHz 1.56V.. trying to get 2.8 stable UGH.

shiznit93
11-09-2005, 02:49 PM
where did you buy it?

dinos22
11-09-2005, 02:52 PM
where did you buy it?
Sydney Australia from one of our distributors

we haven't had problems with stock availability....our first Opterons were in fact dual cores here Opteron 175

derektm
11-09-2005, 02:58 PM
I would also like to know this.. I don't know if I can cough up the loot for a 175.

My 170 is a 0530TPMW.

deception``
11-09-2005, 02:59 PM
Well I just took a trip to Monarch after work...

They still have some good steppings.

I have an Opteron 146 CABYE 0540FPAW :)

I googled my stepping, and someone managed 2.9 GHZ on stock voltage (scroll down a bit):

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://happy.ap.teacup.com/maiko2/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DOpteron%2B146%2BCABYE%2B0540FPAW%26hl %3Den%26hs%3DBFy%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

If necessary I will post pictures of the package for verification.

EDIT: Oh, and I can confirm they DO have the SLI-DR Expert in stock, though I did not buy one today

deception``

pcdoc1
11-09-2005, 03:03 PM
wow, what kinda load temps?47C on air with a 120 and the IHS still on........

lutjens
11-09-2005, 03:06 PM
Results are in the sig...I think the overclock is more limited by the boards lack of desire to go any higher than the CPUs themselves...

Still...good for 1164 fps in DVDShrink 3.2 during my last speed test...:)

003
11-09-2005, 03:27 PM
Ehh ... This thread was meant for the dual core socket 939 opteron 100 series ... but ok, its all good

nop
11-09-2005, 03:28 PM
got my one this morning

Opteron 165 Dual Core (CCBWE 0536MPMW)

NEW Stepping :eek: hope it's a good one :lol:
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3011/opteron3fr.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opteron3fr.jpg)


Look nice dinos :) Please update how it goes.

BTW, did you get from Pluscorp ? Waiting mine as well :D

vengance_01
11-09-2005, 03:29 PM
I have an OEM 165 Opteron on the way from newegg, at 289$ Should be here firday(Good thing being in CA cheap next day shipping)

bmac11
11-09-2005, 03:35 PM
My 170 is a 0530TPMW.

When and where did you get it?

bmac11
11-09-2005, 03:37 PM
I have an OEM 165 Opteron on the way from newegg, at 289$ Should be here firday(Good thing being in CA cheap next day shipping)

I am very tempted to order that from newegg, but I have a feeling I missed the 0530 boat. If they're clocking anything like the single cores, I'll hold out for some 0540. Please let us know what you get!

dinos22
11-09-2005, 03:39 PM
Look nice dinos :) Please update how it goes.

BTW, did you get from Pluscorp ? Waiting mine as well :D
Legend=distributor

nop
11-09-2005, 03:52 PM
Legend=distributor

Thanks. Just saw @ i4memory. Hope you'd get your mobo. real soon and :toast: this baby. :)

Zebo
11-09-2005, 04:21 PM
Any 165's of 0530TPMW?? Please report.

If not 170 may be the best deal.

bmac11
11-09-2005, 04:41 PM
hmm.. didn't notice the 165s at newegg are oem. Thats no good for me.. imo the 170 retail at monarch is the best bet. I'de take the extra mhz/binning + 3 year warranty for an extra $100.

... and now out of stock, lol.

... and now back in stock.. who's cc got declined??? surprised the price didn't jump up.

Repoman
11-09-2005, 04:58 PM
Let us know how the new CCBWE 0536 does ;) I have the feeling mine from monarch is going to be CCBWE 0534 though, we'll find out tomorrow :D

bmac11
11-09-2005, 05:21 PM
Dumb observation... Newegg's stock might even be newer than that.. I'm not sure how relevant it is, but the picture is of a CCBWE 0541RPMW. I'm sure that doesn't speak for their entire stock, but I imagine they took the pic.

QettoE
11-09-2005, 05:27 PM
Newegg might not be the best choice since they sell way more than others and need to replenish their stock more often. I'd say that they run out of older stock quicker.

BTW I'm trying hard to get my 170 past 2844 and it's not going anywhere... any tips you gurus can share?

Perc
11-09-2005, 05:29 PM
yeah im thinking about jumping on the 165 dualy but its a 9x multi thats the only draw back. anyone with the 165 dualy got an good over clocks to help me decide on getting one of these?!? i would feel alot better if these were 2gig chips with 10x multi but 9x thats just asking for dividers and 1:1 is only going ot get me 2700mhz.... dammit what to do....? help :)

peace perc,

QettoE
11-09-2005, 05:35 PM
Prime stable.

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/7554/28353mv.th.jpg (http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28353mv.jpg)

vengance_01
11-09-2005, 06:20 PM
I am very tempted to order that from newegg, but I have a feeling I missed the 0530 boat. If they're clocking anything like the single cores, I'll hold out for some 0540. Please let us know what you get!Mabey not, B/C Newegg just got these in which may be still from the first batch. Even so 289 for a 2.6-2.7 DC A64 W/ 1MEG L2 cache is damn nice IMO, betting the X2 3800 by about 50$ or so.

dinos22
11-09-2005, 06:31 PM
Prime stable.

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/7554/28353mv.th.jpg (http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28353mv.jpg)
have you got a shot with prime as well....that one is with 1M only..........nice CPU in any case :toast:

QettoE
11-09-2005, 06:46 PM
have you got a shot with prime as well....that one is with 1M only..........nice CPU in any case :toast:

Thanks. I was a little bit disappointed for some reason. I wanted to see the 2900 barrier broken but I didn't succeed. I'll run Prime overnight and will post the shot tomorrow.

Zeus...
11-10-2005, 09:55 AM
Don't you have anyone in the US? If so just send them the cash and have them buy/ship them to you. I'm not sure how much duty you'll have to pay, though.

Also bit of a long RMA path if needed :(


Edit - nice overclock for Air what temps u getting under load ?

pcdoc1
11-10-2005, 10:13 AM
Still testing on air, 35 idle - 48 load.... Looks like this chip is gonna smack the snot out of my 4800+... :) :)

socrilles
11-10-2005, 11:10 AM
what hsf are you using pcdoc?

pcdoc1
11-10-2005, 11:17 AM
XP120 with a 2800rpm fan...........

phadeout
11-10-2005, 11:20 AM
Ahhhhhh!

Got my Opty 175 Retail today...

CCBWE 0536XPMW
1326656I50370

DOH! No one has a clue about that one aye?
Waiting for an A8N32-SLI... and I most likely won't get one till like November 30th ish....

:dammit:

I have 30 days to send it back (un opened)... someone go buy a new 175 and plug 'er in! Or... if you have a good mobo layin around, I could "test" it for forum knowledge :D

Zeus...
11-10-2005, 11:48 AM
Ahhhhhh!


Waiting for an A8N32-SLI... and I most likely won't get one till like November 30th ish....

:dammit:

:D

I'l be lucky if its in the UK by Dec 30

QettoE
11-10-2005, 11:50 AM
Still testing on air, 35 idle - 48 load.... Looks like this chip is gonna smack the snot out of my 4800+... :) :)

Toledo core... I gotta download this new one when I get home. I thought they're all Denmark.

jsriolo
11-10-2005, 11:53 AM
I just got my 170 OEM from Monarch!

CCBWE 0530TPMW

Too bad I have to go to class no! DOH! I'll plug it in as soon as I get back!

MaxT
11-10-2005, 11:54 AM
Got my Opteron 165 oem from monarch todya, it's a ccbwe 0541rpmw
Will report results tomorrow.

tatts
11-10-2005, 12:09 PM
why would anyone waste there time on a asus? i wouldnt use one if someone give it me let alone waiting till december for one

phadeout
11-10-2005, 12:19 PM
Seriously tempted to go for the SLI-DR Expert board since my processor is sitting here.... :confused:

QettoE
11-10-2005, 12:21 PM
Seriously tempted to go for the SLI-DR Expert board since my processor is sitting here.... :confused:

I like those experts but the awkward socket position turns me off. My HSF blows the hot air right out of my exhaust fans now but then it will blow it up or downward.

Diverge
11-10-2005, 12:51 PM
I like those experts but the awkward socket position turns me off. My HSF blows the hot air right out of my exhaust fans now but then it will blow it up or downward.

Not if you use something like a scythe Ninja, then you can put the fan on any of the 4 sides, and have a nice push pull right across your ram ;)

003
11-10-2005, 12:56 PM
My 165 just came in the mail, it's a CCBWE 0541RPMW, will post results asap.

QettoE
11-10-2005, 01:00 PM
Not if you use something like a scythe Ninja, then you can put the fan on any of the 4 sides, and have a nice push pull right across your ram ;)

I just paid 70 bucks for my Zalman CNPS9500 last week :(.

Ender17
11-10-2005, 01:52 PM
I just paid 70 bucks for my Zalman CNPS9500 last week :(.
you can't rotate it around?

terrordemon
11-10-2005, 01:54 PM
I just got my 170 OEM from Monarch!

CCBWE 0530TPMW

Too bad I have to go to class no! DOH! I'll plug it in as soon as I get back!

same for me, just got it today, same stepping

too bad i wont have the rest of my computer for atleast another month, maybe more :mad:

QettoE
11-10-2005, 01:55 PM
you can't rotate it around?

I don't think so. Heat pipes cover two opposite sides which in this case will sit right on the mounting holes.

phadeout
11-10-2005, 02:15 PM
Ok... I will keep my 0536 XPMW and my board (a8n32) is suppose to be in Wednesday next week (15 nov.)

I got it from Dangeo... they are ONLY getting 2!!! Whoot for me! Too bad for those that don't like Pre-Orders...
So I will have the A8N32, and I may get the DFI Expert as well just cause I can and I know I can re-sell either one...

So, by next weekend I should have results on my 175.... (air for now)
:thumbsup:

periquitos
11-10-2005, 03:11 PM
does this 165-170 opterons heatsinks has heatpipes as like the 175´s?

DarthOverlord
11-10-2005, 03:45 PM
My Opty 165 just arrived from Monarch.

This is my stepping: CCBWE 0534SPMW

How is this one as an OCer? I don't have my MB yet to try it.

phadeout
11-10-2005, 03:56 PM
My Opty 165 just arrived from Monarch.

This is my stepping: CCBWE 0534SPMW

How is this one as an OCer? I don't have my MB yet to try it.


Welcome to my world... We are guinnea pigs... :fact:

jsriolo
11-10-2005, 04:02 PM
I just plugged in my 170 and at stock speed I can run 1 super pi on either core, but two together makes one fail. I was under the impression that you were supposed to run two things at once to test stability, so what am I doing wrong here?

infiniti029
11-10-2005, 04:10 PM
I just plugged in my 170 and at stock speed I can run 1 super pi on either core, but two together makes one fail. I was under the impression that you were supposed to run two things at once to test stability, so what am I doing wrong here?

make two diff install directories of superpi, and run the different exe's.

pcdoc1
11-10-2005, 04:13 PM
does this 165-170 opterons heatsinks has heatpipes as like the 175´s?My 170 did............

demenion
11-10-2005, 04:14 PM
my 165 heatsink came with the one w/ heatpipes as well..

anyone know how much I could sell these for?

socrilles
11-10-2005, 04:46 PM
0534 SPMW here as well, does anybody know how to make a bootable cd for flashing bios that could explain it to a mentally challenged person?

phadeout
11-10-2005, 04:46 PM
my 165 heatsink came with the one w/ heatpipes as well..

anyone know how much I could sell these for?

Stick it on your Northbridge :stick:

cx323
11-10-2005, 04:49 PM
my 165 heatsink came with the one w/ heatpipes as well..

anyone know how much I could sell these for?

~15-20usd

cx323
11-10-2005, 04:50 PM
0534 SPMW here as well, does anybody know how to make a bootable cd for flashing bios that could explain it to a mentally challenged person?

http://www.bootdisk.com/txtfiles/flashcd.txt
http://www.bootdisk.com/

QettoE
11-10-2005, 05:16 PM
My Opty 165 just arrived from Monarch.

This is my stepping: CCBWE 0534SPMW

How is this one as an OCer? I don't have my MB yet to try it.

It's like the stepping that I have but it's a 170. I'm running double prime on it now (10x280) on air and I'm at 49-50c. I'll run it for two hours and will post the shots later tonight and then will let it run overnight. Wife didn't let me do it last night!!!

Now I've got a questions if you don't mind telling me :)

I'm doing this on my gaming rig which has all drivers installed and all 8 USB ports connected. I've got pretty much everything installed on this machine and I was curious to know if it actually affects my OC'ing.

DarthOverlord
11-10-2005, 05:22 PM
Right now my goal is 2.7, but I will be happy with 2.5 and up. I know the eVGA are limited in their overclockability. I still can't believe I did not see this Opteron thread the week before when I ordered a Venice A64 3000. Now I have to ebay it!

socrilles
11-10-2005, 05:41 PM
from anandtech:

Also on a more interesting note; I must have tried 20+ vendors to find one with the 165 in stock for a reasonable price. I had several vendors tell me the item was discontinued. So I called the AMD Technical Service Center at 408-749-3060 (hit 0 then a couple of * to get out of voicemail & to a human).

The first call, the woman who answered said they were a current product but when she went to find out more info & my suck A%^ Verizon cell service dropped the call. I called back & got another person who checked and after 5-6 minutes on hold I was told the 165 has officially been discontinued.

That doesn't say that there aren't stocks of 165 to be had but new ones aren't happening anymore.

This has a high degree of suckability...

MM

Repoman
11-10-2005, 05:51 PM
Wow, that was unexpected :confused:

Glad I got my CCBWE 0534 from monarch, I almost waited

003
11-10-2005, 05:59 PM
My Dual Core Opteron 165 just came in the mail at around 2:30 this afternoon, and I have been working on it ever since. It is a CCBWE 0541RPMW stepping. My max stable OC (based on 2x prime95) without using CPU VID special control to raise the voltage is: 2.55GHz @ 1.525v. I am using a 283MHz HTT with a 9x multiplier. I would have liked more, but this is by no means bad. I am sure I could have hit 2.6GHz if I raised the voltage to 1.575 or 1.6v, but I have insufficient cooling for that, and this chip runs on the hot side (50c load w/ OC). This does overclock more than my 3700+ San Diego did, my sandy would only hit 2.7GHz (2.2 stock), where as this hits 2.55 (1.8 stock) The sandy was a 500MHz overclock and this is a 750MHz overclock.

DarthOverlord
11-10-2005, 05:59 PM
I actually got the email from Monarch telling me they were out of stock and they would fill my order later in the month. I called them and the CSR was nice enough to tell me they had some stock in the warehouse and he would make sure my order was shipped.

Thank God, I called and thank God for the nice CSR.

phadeout
11-10-2005, 06:03 PM
from anandtech:

Also on a more interesting note; I must have tried 20+ vendors to find one with the 165 in stock for a reasonable price. I had several vendors tell me the item was discontinued. So I called the AMD Technical Service Center at 408-749-3060 (hit 0 then a couple of * to get out of voicemail & to a human).

The first call, the woman who answered said they were a current product but when she went to find out more info & my suck A%^ Verizon cell service dropped the call. I called back & got another person who checked and after 5-6 minutes on hold I was told the 165 has officially been discontinued.

That doesn't say that there aren't stocks of 165 to be had but new ones aren't happening anymore.

This has a high degree of suckability...

MM

This is what I was talking about in the "buy your opty's now thread"...

jsriolo
11-10-2005, 06:27 PM
I am testing my 170 and I am now at 280x10 with 1.32v... Yes, that is stock. It's stable so far and still going!

QettoE
11-10-2005, 06:41 PM
I am testing my 170 and I am now at 280x10 with 1.32v... Yes, that is stock. It's stable so far and still going!

I can't run 280x10 unless I feed it 1.55v. What am I doing wrong?

003
11-10-2005, 07:03 PM
The 165s have been discontinued? Why?? Is there a problem with them? Good thing I got mine when I did... It just got here today...

fareastgq
11-10-2005, 07:38 PM
prob same reason 256mb 6600gt's were discontinuted

jsriolo
11-10-2005, 08:27 PM
Yeah... I was chugging along at 2.95 and trying for 3 whem all of the sudden it crashed on startup and would no longer boot. I was starting to hit diminishig return around 1.5v so I was sure I didn't fry it, but I was still pretty scared of what could have happened. My DFI shows dram power and standby with the LED's but when I hit power the fans hardly torque and it's off. I put my old venice back in and still the same thing. I tried resetting the bios, using 1 stick or ram, and just about everything else I could think of. Any tips? What did I break?

003
11-10-2005, 08:45 PM
Mabey the board died, not the CPU?

demenion
11-10-2005, 08:47 PM
Anyone know if the 0530's still coming out from Monarch? OEM or retail?

jsriolo
11-10-2005, 08:48 PM
The first thought I had was that I killed the CPU. Then, once I replaced it I thought it might be the board. I am still getting standby LEDs and everything does 'blink' on for a second so I'm not sure. Too bad I don't have another one to switch it out with.

QettoE
11-10-2005, 08:50 PM
The first thought I had was that I killed the CPU. Then, once I replaced it I thought it might be the board. I am still getting standby LEDs and everything does 'blink' on for a second so I'm not sure. Too bad I don't have another one to switch it out with.

Did you disconnect the PSU, flipped the CMOS jumper after you pulled the battery and then push "on" switch a few times? Do that once see if it helps.

pcdoc1
11-10-2005, 08:57 PM
...... Any tips?Yeah I got one, give up on 3.0 on air....... :nono: It's probably (hopefully) the board. I really do sympathize with you and I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but I gotta tell ya, reading your post was "funny sh!zzzT". :p: :p:

Once again, sorry to hear it, hope you're not offended.........

jsriolo
11-10-2005, 09:15 PM
Well, The CPU isn't dead! I went down the hall (undergrad @ OSU, ohio that is) and popped it in a friends computer. The 170 still works fine. On the other hand, I tried unplugging everything, resetting the cmos, and hittin the power button. Nada once I got it back together.

And BTW, At 2.9ghz my load temps were 42C. The first time I upped the voltage was 2.85ghz. If 3ghz isn't attainable then it is going to be damn close.

QettoE
11-10-2005, 09:31 PM
Well, The CPU isn't dead! I went down the hall (undergrad @ OSU, ohio that is) and popped it in a friends computer. The 170 still works fine. On the other hand, I tried unplugging everything, resetting the cmos, and hittin the power button. Nada once I got it back together.

And BTW, At 2.9ghz my load temps were 42C. The first time I upped the voltage was 2.85ghz. If 3ghz isn't attainable then it is going to be damn close.

Were you able to prime it at 2.85?

jsriolo
11-10-2005, 09:36 PM
2.85 was prime stable. 2.9 was also. I didn't do a lot of testing at 2.95 but I got it pretty stable and decided to shoot for 3.0 when the :banana::banana::banana::banana: hit the fan.

demenion
11-10-2005, 09:40 PM
Well i guess it is better that your CPU isn't dead.. If you're looking for a quick replacement for your DFI Board newegg has em on sale for $115 shipped.. (10 hr special) great deal

phadeout
11-10-2005, 11:04 PM
Mobo or Power Supply
Maybe... Ram?

Try ram and power supply, you should be able to get those parts easy...

MonkSP
11-11-2005, 03:12 AM
Is anyone getting the 165 boxed version from Monarch? So did thery have to stock or not? I ordered and I am waiting since Monarch will charge 15% fee for their error.

nop
11-11-2005, 03:42 AM
My Opty 165 CCBWE 0534SPMW out of the box @ 2916ghz. Water Cool. Priming right now and still going :) Have to pump Vcore by .05 to prime stable.

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1793/opty16529165hj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/2438/opty1652916prime5fk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

QettoE
11-11-2005, 06:51 AM
Holy moly...

These duallys are coming out even better than CABNE. The fact that they are dual cores and not single makes them even better!

003
11-11-2005, 06:57 AM
Mine's not hitting those speeds. I need more voltage, but for that I need better cooling, this chip runs hot:
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/4144/results9jn.th.jpg (http://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=results9jn.jpg)
It's a CCBWE 0541. BTW, why does CPUz say it's a Toledo core? I thought it was a Denmark core... ?

QettoE
11-11-2005, 06:58 AM
Is anyone getting the 165 boxed version from Monarch? So did thery have to stock or not? I ordered and I am waiting since Monarch will charge 15% fee for their error.

They're out at this moment. I could only find them at excaliberpc.com http://www.excaliberpc.com/AMD_Opteron_Model_165_Dual_Core/OSA165CDBOX/partinfo-id-560157.html

QettoE
11-11-2005, 07:01 AM
2.85 was prime stable. 2.9 was also. I didn't do a lot of testing at 2.95 but I got it pretty stable and decided to shoot for 3.0 when the :banana::banana::banana::banana: hit the fan.

On air or water? Mine gets pretty hot when I double prime it at 2700 and scary hot at 2833. I'm on air though.

Zeus...
11-11-2005, 07:19 AM
Got one in the UK :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: AMD Opteron 175, 2.2GHz


http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=313938&cks=SER if u want one in the Uk u better be quick they only have 12 left in in 165 , 170 ,175

Time to see what this Neo makes off it b4 I upgrade to NF4 - prob asus A8N32

dinos22
11-11-2005, 02:09 PM
My Opty 165 CCBWE 0534SPMW out of the box @ 2916ghz. Water Cool. Priming right now and still going :) Have to pump Vcore by .05 to prime stable.


so your load temps are 33C with 1.58v on CPU.........wish i lived on north pole

nop
11-11-2005, 02:27 PM
so your load temps are 33C with 1.58v on CPU.........wish i lived on north pole

Think you could have the same load temp as mine since I'm also in Sydney. :D May be it's because my Opty is "naked" ? :p:

dinos22
11-11-2005, 02:35 PM
Think you could have the same load temp as mine since I'm also in Sydney. :D May be it's because my Opty is "naked" ? :p:
:rofl:

periquitos
11-11-2005, 03:38 PM
Bought an 170... what to expect from the boxed hsf? lot better than the 148 boxed hsf?

vengance_01
11-11-2005, 03:59 PM
Mabey the board died, not the CPU? I think you toasted the board, as these dualcores stress this board to the max. Make sure to watch the PWMIC Temp, mine is at 54C right dual Prime95 Small FT's. My old Opteron and venice cores never got close to that temp. Check case flow when you get your new board.

Haltech
11-11-2005, 04:31 PM
They're out at this moment. I could only find them at excaliberpc.com http://www.excaliberpc.com/AMD_Opteron_Model_165_Dual_Core/OSA165CDBOX/partinfo-id-560157.html


thanks dude, ive been looking for a 165 in stock :toast:

I wasnt aware they were in CA, so i got nailed for sales tax. However, with 2 day shipping and tax, it was $364... about the same price everywhere else.

SubTotal: $325.00
Shipping & Handling (2 Day Air Shipping (2 business days)): $8.80 Sales Tax: $28.44
Insurance: $2.00
Total: $364.24

demenion
11-11-2005, 04:34 PM
Anyone know if the 0530 week is still being shipped out from the OEM 170s from Monarch?

QettoE
11-11-2005, 05:07 PM
thanks dude, ive been looking for a 165 in stock :toast:

I wasnt aware they were in CA, so i got nailed for sales tax. However, with 2 day shipping and tax, it was $364... about the same price everywhere else.

SubTotal: $325.00
Shipping & Handling (2 Day Air Shipping (2 business days)): $8.80 Sales Tax: $28.44
Insurance: $2.00
Total: $364.24

I bought mine from them. I paid at 1:00PM CT and they shipped the same day.

QettoE
11-11-2005, 05:09 PM
Anyone know if the 0530 week is still being shipped out from the OEM 170s from Monarch?

I ordered an OEM and a retail 170 today from them for a client of mine, and hopefully if either one turn out to be 0530 then I'll keep it. I had them shipped 2nd day and they should arrive Tuesday.

bmac11
11-11-2005, 05:37 PM
thanks dude, ive been looking for a 165 in stock :toast:

Total: $364.24

364? ouch.. you coulda got a 170 oem for that.. or retail 170 for $30 more.

Haltech
11-11-2005, 06:03 PM
364? ouch.. you coulda got a 170 oem for that.. or retail 170 for $30 more.


Not shipped i wouldnt...

Ender17
11-11-2005, 06:33 PM
Not shipped i wouldnt...
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/DeepSearch.hmx?scriteria=opteron+170&ALL=y&TP=1
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Store_Code=M&Screen=SRCH&Search=opteron+170

Haltech
11-11-2005, 07:24 PM
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/DeepSearch.hmx?scriteria=opteron+170&ALL=y&TP=1
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Store_Code=M&Screen=SRCH&Search=opteron+170

Sub Total $395.00



Shipping & Handling Calculator $5.74





Sales Tax (Orange County, CA - 7.75%) $30.61



Total $431.35