New WR DDR636 2.5-3-3-5 1T PI 32M

[AndreYang]

New WR

ES GeIL One TCCD DDR600

MB: DFI NF4 SLI-DR BIOS 510-1
CPU: Opteron 146 0530 APMW
Ram: GeIL One TCCD DDR600

DDR636 2.5-3-3-5 1T 512MB*2

2x512MB

TRCD=3


http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/SLI-DR/318-TCCD.JPG

[agenda2005]

Nice Clock! Can you show Sandra Bandwith Screen shots?

[Ozan Baseski]

Brilliant score my friend. Is 510-1 the best for tccd in your opinion? I ask this bc I also have a couple of Geil One Tccd sticks and I'm using them with 702-3 bios. Is the bios very important?

[NickS]

Danggg, nice! :D

[Kasparz]

gigi77 where are you?

[Zeus]

OPB--316 2,5-3-3-x :slobber:
Gigi77--317 2,5-3-3-x :slobber: :slobber:
Andre Yang--318 2,5-3-3-x :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

Who's next?

You guys are really tearing it up!

GeIL one takes the lead, what will Gskill's answer be?

Congrats!! :toast:

[AndreYang]

Brilliant score my friend. Is 510-1 the best for tccd in your opinion? I ask this bc I also have a couple of Geil One Tccd sticks and I'm using them with 702-3 bios. Is the bios very important?


I use Mod DFI NF4 SLI-DR. I try many bios , but i think 510-1 is more stable than others.

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/1959/13wm.th.jpg (http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13wm.jpg)http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/3164/25he.th.jpg (http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25he.jpg)

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http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/4314/59ev.th.jpg (http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=59ev.jpg)http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/6270/67ms.th.jpg (http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=67ms.jpg)

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/2971/71hi.th.jpg (http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=71hi.jpg)


EDIT: slow image hosting, moved to imageshack
-saaya

[m3csl2004]

ace clocks :clap:

2 things - did you use any active cooling on the ram??

and what camera was those pics taken with (looks sweet, i couldn't help myself)

[ianocean]

Who's next?

Gigi i supose.I'm getting an Oppie 150 in two weeks and will try to mess

[AndreYang]

ace clocks :clap:

2 things - did you use any active cooling on the ram??

and what camera was those pics taken with (looks sweet, i couldn't help myself)



I don't use any active cooling on the ram and i use Nikon 5000 camera. :D

[vapb400]

Awesome ram! and pics too.
I'm getting a Nikon D50 for my b-day in a few weeks, I'm so excited.

[bachus_anonym]

When I look at that Top10 in my TCCD thread it just makes me wonder what it takes to get sticks like that :slobber: :lol:
At TRCD=3, 310Mhz is very high, but 315+ is just outrageous :shocked:
GeiL One or G.Skill FF that clock 310+ must represent less than 1% of yields :)

Excellent clocks, man :up:

[m3csl2004]

lol, shame i cant afford either - doubt my tccd will do anywhere near that tbh

[TheMeatFrog]

Simply Amazing! :clap:

[AndreYang]

did you yourself add all those cap's?? lol
do those hold a higher ripple?
whoever changed out those caps did a great job :)
also what that cost for all those polomercaps?

nice stuff andre :)


My Taiwan's friend help me changed this.It is free. :D

The caps is very cheap about 1 us for 2 piecess.But they only buy from Taiwan.

[toreide]

Why only one stick showing in your picture?

I suppose the record is done with 2?

[targ]

amazing clocking coming out the TCCD camp. big W00t ot Geil for hold ing the top two places now.

really muxt test my TCCD more as im only a few Mhz behind these scores, 310 2.5-3-3-5 32M stable would be great.

TCCD for the win!!

targ

[Vassili]

My Taiwan's friend help me changed this.It is free. :D
The caps is very cheap about 1 us for 2 piecess.But they only buy from Taiwan.
Did they helped much?

Nice WR :slobber: :D

[jahjahbinks]

I have used them in the lab. Those are higher quality caps that offer less ESR and ESL.

[865pe]

nice clock :toast: chip week ?

[Markus_d]

sweet man! just great! congrats on the amazing result!

[AndreYang]

I test DDR636 2.5-3-3-5 1T again and I use DC to take all picture.

I hope everyone do it after testing.

Start

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/1.JPG

6 Loops

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/2.JPG

10 Loops

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/3.JPG

12 Loops

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/4.JPG

15 Loops

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/5.JPG

19 Loops

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/6.JPG

22 Loops

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/7.JPG

24 Loops

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/8.JPG

Finish

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/9.JPG

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/10.JPG

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/11.JPG

[bachus_anonym]

:clap: :clap: :clap:

If only EVERYONE from TCCD Top10 had done it that way it would be awesome!

Thanks a lot, Andre :up:

[amrgb]

If I had a digital camera...

@OPB, Gigi & AndreYang

Please stop playing cat and mouse with each other and deliver the goods.

I don't know why but at least one of you have already hit the 320 barrier.

But anyway, it's being funny to see the WR being beaten in a daily basis.

[dinos22]

first that nice clocking Opteron and now this amazing records......man lady luck is on your side

[Eldonko]

Great job on the mb mod AndreYang, and congrats on WR. :clap:

[harleybro]

Very cool and very clean job on the cap replacement. Have you run that ram on the same mobo before the replacement? If so what kind of improvement did you see?

[AndreYang]

Very cool and very clean job on the cap replacement. Have you run that ram on the same mobo before the replacement? If so what kind of improvement did you see?


Yes, i run the same mobo before replacement.But it is only running 314 FSB.

[en4cer]

what rev. TCCD is that 4xx, 5xx??

[AndreYang]

what rev. TCCD is that 4xx, 5xx??


519 TCCD

[en4cer]

wow, those must be pretty new, Mine are 513 and they also clock to 300MHz+ 2.5-3-3-6 :D

Congrats on the WR :toast:

[AndreYang]

I guess it is not required to have a 24pin psu to achieve great rusults on a DFI N4 mobo. What brand/wattage psu are you using andre yang?


http://www.athlonoc.org/forum_r4_new/user_file/6163_20050831153414_60f_01.JPG

http://www.athlonoc.org/forum_r4_new/user_file/6163_20050831153414_60f_02.JPG

http://www.athlonoc.org/forum_r4_new/user_file/6163_20050831153414_60f_03.JPG

http://www.athlonoc.org/forum_r4_new/user_file/6163_20050831153414_60f_04.JPG

[Zeus]

Awesome job on replacing those caps, gaining 4 MHz RAM speed may not sound great but it helped to take the WR this time. :up:

So cleaner current is the answer for higher clocks, this must be the reason why you get such awesome clocks on your Opteron.

Are your RAM sticks handpicked or just retail ones?

Btw, very nice way to prove you really ran 318, this way there's no doubt.

:toast:

[AndreYang]

Awesome job on replacing those caps, gaining 4 MHz RAM speed may not sound great but it helped to take the WR this time. :up:

So cleaner current is the answer for higher clocks, this must be the reason why you get such awesome clocks on your Opteron.

Are your RAM sticks handpicked or just retail ones?

Btw, very nice way to prove you really ran 318, this way there's no doubt.

:toast:


Handpicked.

I think some people run DDR 630+ 2.5-3-3-5 are not Retail.I am very sure.

[kakaroto]

Handpicked.

I think some people run DDR 630+ 2.5-3-3-5 are not Retail.I am very sure.

Indeed, handpicked is more likely.
You have to be very very lucky to get such great TCCD in retail :)

[GhostBG]

Handpicked.

I think some people run DDR 630+ 2.5-3-3-5 are not Retail.I am very sure.
Are yours retail?Because i realy doubt you've removed the heatspreader to find out IC stepping

[AndreYang]

Are yours retail?Because i realy doubt you've removed the heatspreader to find out IC stepping


My TCCD is not retail.

ES GeIL One

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/GeIL-330.JPG

[Rukee]

I have a set of OCZ`s that will do 319fsb (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/Rukee/319fsb.jpg) but not at 2.5-3-3-x. :( At least not yet, still tweaking.

[ZeroX]

Many people have +330 2.5-4-3, and some 2.5-3-3, but 3-4-4 is too far..

[Rukee]

/me hanges head and goes back to tweaking

[guess2098]

Andre nice job, hahahahaha
one handpick beats all 20 pairs we bought!!!!!!!! or 23 pairs??? don't remember
hahahahaaha

[AndreYang]

Andre nice job, hahahahaha
one handpick beats all 20 pairs we bought!!!!!!!! or 23 pairs??? don't remember
hahahahaaha


maybe 30 pairs........... :D

[AndreYang]

Andre Yang , whats the purpose of these pic you posted? I wanted to know what psu were u using on setup u posted on the first page? It shows that u was using a 20 pin connector , am i right or wrong?


This psu have 24 pin connector.I use 24pin connector for my mobo.

[Vapor]

....maybe he took the pictures some other time, you know, just to show off the mod? :rolleyes:

[AndreYang]

AndreYang , look at the pics u posted on the first page, u will notice that its using a 20 pin white connector , so it CAN'T be the silverstone because it is a black 24pin connector. I got high last night but im not high right now i know what im talking about.


The first pic just demonstrate.


This pic is really testing.

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/12.JPG

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/13.JPG

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/318-TCCD/14.JPG

[ahmad]

Very nice!

I managed 310MHz with my OCZ TCCD but only with 2.64v. I didn't go any higher because I don't want the sticks to die too quickly.

Am I over worrying or is 2.8v an OK voltage for TCCD? Heard some wrecked their sticks with more than 2.7v.

[formyfaith]

Handpicked.

I think some people run DDR 630+ 2.5-3-3-5 are not Retail.I am very sure.

You're right. ;)

Recently I tested 15 pairs of the new HS versioned G.Skill FF
, and all of them really :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:.
(half of them can't even do above 275 Mhz @ 2.5-3-3-7, and the rest
doing around 280-285, 1 set does 290)

Gotta be real lucky to get a nice pair.
Maybe I'll need to test 10~20 more pairs. :p:

[kiwi]

What about retail GEIL ONE 5xx? Can we expect at least 300 2.5-3-3-6 on average?

[Vapor]

Doubtfully.

[LoKi2k]

alright andre, i am going to get you today. my gskill 4400le can run 320 2-hours prime blend ;)

[targ]

alright andre, i am going to get you today. my gskill 4400le can run 320 2-hours prime blend ;)

@2.5-3-3-5??

if so run SPI 32M and clam your WR.

looks like the TCCD race has started again for some reason...

i know gigi has some more to come.

targ

[AndreYang]

What about retail GEIL ONE 5xx? Can we expect at least 300 2.5-3-3-6 on average?


Maybe u need to handpick about 20 pairs from Retail GeIL One.

[gigi77]

nice INDECENT SPEED MY Friends!

Good Luck for 320MHZ

[szukalski]

Maybe u need to handpick about 20 pairs from Retail GeIL One.

Took me two pairs to find one that did 310MHz @ 2.5-3-3-6 @ 2.8v (300MHz @ 2.7v).
Could be that someone else already went through the first 18. :D

[s7e9h3n]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again....no offense, but to compare TCCD clocks not only do you have to run the same speed on the memory, but use a mult @ 10+. Anything lower is much, much easier to do. Regardless, that's still quite an accomplishment Andre :toast:

[Vapor]

Steve.....not all CPUs can do that. Isn't still an equal test of the memory using the 9x multi?

[targ]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again....no offense, but to compare TCCD clocks not only do you have to run the same speed on the memory, but use a mult @ 10+. Anything lower is much, much easier to do. Regardless, that's still quite an accomplishment Andre :toast:

yes i dont quite understand this statement, the IMC shouldnt be affected by multi, and even if it was thats nothing to do with the ram itself being stable.

could you please explain more?

targ

[AndreYang]

Took me two pairs to find one that did 310MHz @ 2.5-3-3-6 @ 2.8v (300MHz @ 2.7v).
Could be that someone else already went through the first 18. :D


If i use bad A64 Tweaker Timing run , i will be running higher. Why am i done it?Because that's lose WR and test ram significance.

[s7e9h3n]

Steve.....not all CPUs can do that. Isn't still an equal test of the memory using the 9x multi?
NO.

[Vapor]

Care to explain....I can completely understand the IMC getting stressed more with higher multis, but the memory too?

[bachus_anonym]

It might not be as obvious as you think it is, Steve. It's not 100% guaranteed that If one does 315MHz on x10. then it will do 320Mhz on x8. It's not that easy.

I've been playing with my 4400LE for the last week or so. It does 32M @ 304Mhz 6-3-3-2.4-1t with x11 multi... So, far I used all tricks I know and cannot get it to pass 306Mhz, even on multi x7. I will still be trying but I 'm not 100% sure that what you claim is holy truth. If lowering multi gives advantage, then it's very slim...
But that's only my :2cents:

[TheMeatFrog]

It might not be as obvious as you think it is, Steve. It's not 100% guaranteed that If one does 315MHz on x10. then it will do 320Mhz on x8. It's not that easy.

I've been playing with my 4400LE for the last week or so. It does 32M @ 304Mhz 6-3-3-2.4-1t with x11 multi... So, far I used all tricks I know and cannot get it to pass 306Mhz, even on multi x7. I will still be trying but I 'm not 100% sure that what you claim is holy truth. If lowering multi gives advantage, then it's very slim...
But that's only my :2cents:
Same here bachus, my FF do 307 2.5-3-3-6 regardless of multi :slap: 9x and 8x do nothing for me :confused:

[amrgb]

From my experience if the limiting factor is the ram and not the memory controller, the higher the multiplier and the faster the cpu the better.

Thing is with my winnie at 2440 (8x) for 305HTT it took more than 30 minutes to complete a 32M run. When you are at the verge of stability (32M-wise) the faster you do the job the smaller the probability of getting an error.

I've tried with 7x and 6x and not only I didn't gain one single Mhz but also sometimes I could not even get a 32M run at 305.

How bad I wished I had a fast cpu at that time...

[Onepagebook]

Care to explain....I can completely understand the IMC getting stressed more with higher multis, but the memory too?


It doesn't mean memory getting stressed. It's all about the memory efficiency.
If Steve is wrong, then I think there is no reason we need run some Sandra memory bandwidth for own reference.;) From that bench tell us, lower multi. got lower memory controller efficiency. Consequently, under about the same FSB setting, using lower multiplier to bench is way not harder than higher multiplier does same FSB.

[Vapor]

My argument was more clearly expressed by bachus....I was simply talking about stability, not performance. I can get nearly Sandra score @ 264x11 as I do 274x9 (actually, the former is higher), that I know and understand. Very similarly to TMF, my LA can do 306 2.5-3-3-0 as long as my CPU can clock that high....

[szukalski]

If i use bad A64 Tweaker Timing run , i will be running higher. Why am i done it?Because that's lose WR and test ram significance.

? I don't follow here. :confused:

[hicookie]

great job,dude, new WR!!

[kktham]

519 TCCD


bro u pry the heatsink open to see the week of the chip??

[Vapor]

As a matter of fact....his heatspreaders are off. There are pictures on the earlier page(s) (depends on view settings).

[gigi77]

It doesn't mean memory getting stressed. It's all about the memory efficiency.
If Steve is wrong, then I think there is no reason we need run some Sandra memory bandwidth for own reference.;) From that bench tell us, lower multi. got lower memory controller efficiency. Consequently, under about the same FSB setting, using lower multiplier to bench is way not harder than higher multiplier does same FSB.



go for 320 2.5-3-3-5

:)

[amrgb]

:idea:

[Vapor]

huh?

[AndreYang]

? I don't follow here. :confused:


So many people change A64tweaker after running 32M. If u care about 32M Speed. you will be found why their 32M are so slow.

Use this A64tweaker and run 32M again.

http://andreyang.myweb.hinet.net/A64.JPG

[ianocean]

100Mhz 1.95us -what TREF is this displayed in DFI BIOS

[Onepagebook]

Hello Mr. Onepagebook,

:) :toast:


hi Master gigi77, your run and everything is more impressive :toast: , at least you won't get the shxty ram program them first(oh ya , pry the heatspreaderand from geil reinstall on the shxty ram) then return to store and cost you nothing. I should learn this huh? :toast:

[gigi77]

mr. Onepagebook you have my pvt

luigi

[LoKi2k]

alright, here i am:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/20/532920/1600_3665303734383737.jpg

mission done:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/20/532920/1600_3362643762336165.jpg

final pic:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/20/532920/1600_6463373034343231.jpg

some one want to buy these sticks? :D

[x3ro]

WTF!! Thats amazing m8 :| realy.. Congrats with ur WR.... What sticks are you using?

Regards

[$ilver]

G.Skill 4400LE i think ;)

[x3ro]

nice for pc4400 sticks..

[LoKi2k]

jep 4400 le :D

bios is 703-1 ;)

[bachus_anonym]

@LoKi2k,

I'm not trying to be an a$$, but I have to tell you that even considering that CPU-Z was open during the run, 23:49 is pretty bad time for 3.2Ghz and such high 6-3-3-2.5-1T clock.

[szukalski]

100Mhz 1.95us -what TREF is this displayed in DFI BIOS

4708 I think.

[LoKi2k]

hmm... i dont know.... my 1m-time with thise setting is 25.89x. is that also a bad time? i don´t know.

[amrgb]

You have a camera. Do like AndreYang.

Take shots every 2-3 steps.

Not saying that you've done it, but it is possible to run 23 loops with say 300-310 and then change the clock to 320 with clockgen for the last one (or a timing with the tweaker) and voila.

You have to realize that we are now at a point where for some people is hard to believe in higher clocks (specially when they come in almost a daily basis).

[Zeus]

Ugh! :slobber:
Like Bachus said, time is very bad for 10x320 but this could be caused by the Tref.

Could you try again with Tref 100MHz 1.95us?

Please take a few pics during the run with CPU-Z open, memory tab visible.

Still, very very nice result! :toast:

[LoKi2k]

umpf!

ok, tomorrow ;)

[bachus_anonym]

This is what I mean, look:

300x10=3000Mhz 5-3-3-2.5-1T; I tried to set all major timmings the way you had it set for fair comparison
The result is 24:14, only 25s slower than your 320x10. At this point, every 1HTT is ~4s, so 305Mhz would beat your 320Mhz... And i would still be 150Mhz slower than you were...

This run is with 2 CPU-Z windows open, Normal Priority and no registry tweaks... Just plain, fresh OS.

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6844_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6845_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6846_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6847_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6848_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6849_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6850_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6851_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6852_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6853_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6854_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6855_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6856_exposure.JPG

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/300x10_633_32M.png

Just as amrgb said.... Seeing results like yours and such bad times makes me for example wonder about it ;)


Update: Scratch that 305Mhz I said above... 303Mhz will be just fine, If run with one CPU-Z window open...

[ianocean]

Zeus did 32M 23.03 at 10x313Mhz Mhz so i think is not normal at 320Mhz to get such bad time :stick:

[s7e9h3n]

This is what I mean, look:

300x10=3000Mhz 5-3-3-2.5-1T; I tried to set all major timmings the way you had it set for fair comparison
The result is 24:14, only 25s slower than your 320x10. At this point, every 1HTT is ~4s, so 305Mhz would beat your 320Mhz... And i would still be 150Mhz slower than you were...

This run is with 2 CPU-Z windows open, Normal Priority and no registry tweaks... Just plain, fresh OS.

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6844_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6845_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6846_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6847_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6848_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6849_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6850_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6851_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6852_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6853_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6854_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6855_exposure.JPG
http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/IMG_6856_exposure.JPG

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/3700SD/Gskill4400LE_HS/dcshots/300x10_633_32M.png

Just as amrgb said.... Seeing results like yours and such bad times makes me for example wonder about it ;)
Ummm michal,
Look again...you're not exactly making a "fair" comparison. Check your tweaker table again ->
Your trtw =2, his is =3
Your bypass max = 4x, his = 7x
Your MAL,.PR = 8,5.0, his = 9,7.0
Your Drivestrength = Normal, his = Weak
On top of that, you're running a way higher Vcore than him - which will ultimately give you a much faster time even with the same settings (with the assumption that the cpu's scale similarly with similar voltages). So in the end, your 305 shouldn't be anywhere near his time if you run the exact same timings......

[Zeus]

That cannot make such a big difference.
Maybe his OS is a bit worn?

Let's wait for his run with pictures tommorow, it's too early to judge yet.

[AndreYang]

Ummm michal,
Look again...you're not exactly making a "fair" comparison. Check your tweaker table again ->
Your trtw =2, his is =3
Your bypass max = 4x, his = 7x
Your MAL,.PR = 8,5.0, his = 9,7.0
Your Drivestrength = Normal, his = Weak
On top of that, you're running a way higher Vcore than him - which will ultimately give you a much faster time even with the same settings (with the assumption that the cpu's scale similarly with similar voltages). So in the end, your 305 shouldn't be anywhere near his time if you run the exact same timings......



So i say dont use bad A64tweaker run 32M.

If i use his tweaker , maybe i can run 320+.........

[TheMeatFrog]

His Trc = 10, Max Async Latency = 9, Read Preamable = 7 and his tref is one of the slower ones when it comes to PI. These are just a few performance killers, but he isn't going for best time just max MHz so it doesn't really matter. :) His time seems about right to me after taking the above into consideration.

Congrats on a very very nice clock :toast:

[amrgb]

If i use his tweaker , maybe i can run 320+.........

What are you waiting for? Claim the WR again :D

I would like to know where this will stop. One of these days the 2.5-3-3 WR would be higher than the 2.5-4-3 one :p:

Edit: went check at the ranking, 5 more Mhz and both WR will be leveled

[s7e9h3n]

So i say dont use bad A64tweaker run 32M.

If i use his tweaker , maybe i can run 320+.........
Agreed, your timings above are superb, only thing more I would hope to see is trfc @ 13 ;) But it's hard to get everyone to "standardlize" their timings and if people want to make comparisons, they should at least use the same settings, that's all.....

[bachus_anonym]

@s7e9h3n and TheMeatFrog,

You guys put way too much money into claim that Read Preamble or MAL are some sort of huge performance boosters. Those values can be very crucial to stability but not performance, especially when 32M is concerned.

My batteries went out so no DC shots, but I took 4 screen grabs during 302x10=3020 run. I cannot match exactly same settings (TRWT=2, Drive Strength=Normal and BypassMax=4 are the factors in my setup that allow mems run above 300Mhz 6-3-3-2.5-1T) but those 3 settings ARE NOT speeding up 32M calculation that much, Only TRWT=2 does it, but it's a matter of ~2s. Anyway, at 302x10 6-3-3-2.5-1T, with CPU-Z open, Normal Priority and no-tweak OS I get 24:03. If you guys still think that LoKi2k's time is still "about right" for such high CPU and Mem clocks, then with all due respect, you're wrong.

What I'm trying to say, is that at this point it's really hard to put a lot of trust in such high clock/ bad time results. Especially, that it is PC4400LE... It's just unheard of to achieve anywhere near that with those modules. I will stand corrected If it's otherwise :)

[s7e9h3n]

That cannot make such a big difference.
Maybe his OS is a bit worn?

Let's wait for his run with pictures tommorow, it's too early to judge yet.
Yes it can...I just did the math (I think) that Bachus used to calculate his estimation of 303-305 FSB with his timings to run the same spi time and his timings definately gives him an advantage.....
But if for example, Loki2k decided he wanted to LOWER his htt to run the same 24m14s time as Bachus, he would still need to run @ 314 HTT using his current timings to equal that time.....
If my math is right, with his timings, Bachus is running @ about 8-9% faster per clock than Loki2k

[dinos22]

bachus if you check out Opteron OC times you'll see that they lose out to San Diegos in 32M runs due to MAL/Read Preamble as people need to loosen those with Opterons to get them stable@s7e9h3n and TheMeatFrog,

You guys put way too much money into claim that Read Preamble or MAL are some sort of huge performance boosters. Those values can be very crucial to stability but not performance, especially when 32M is concerned.

My batteries went out so no DC shots, but I took 4 screen grabs during 302x10=3020 run. I cannot match exactly same settings (TRWT=2, Drive Strength=Normal and BypassMax=4 are the factors in my setup that allow mems run above 300Mhz 6-3-3-2.5-1T) but those 3 settings ARE NOT speeding up 32M calculation that much, Only TRWT=2 does it, but it's a matter of ~2s. Anyway, at 302x10 6-3-3-2.5-1T, with CPU-Z open, Normal Priority and no-tweak OS I get 24:03. If you guys still think that LoKi2k's time is still "about right" for such high CPU and Mem clocks, then with all due respect, you're wrong.

What I'm trying to say, is that at this point it's really hard to put a lot of trust in such high clock/ bad time results. Especially, that it is PC4400LE... It's just unheard of to achieve anywhere near that with those modules. I will stand corrected If it's otherwise :)

[bachus_anonym]

@dinos22,

That was initial information that TeamJapan gave all of us... Take a look at AndreYang's screenshot... He's running Opteron and his MAL and RP are not high. Also, there's quite a few good results in Opteron thread with also "normal" MAL and RP. Anyway, this is setting that, like I said, might have large impact on stability but rather insignificant on performance (unless, one is going into >10ns values...).

Ohm btw... Just in case someone would like to say that I run Server2003 so it might not be fair either, since someclaim that Server2003 is faster :) I just re-run 302x10 at same settings and conditions, but under WinXP SP2 with default services. In other words, totally standard, non-tweaked OS... How about a shocker, 24:00 - 3secs faster than on Server2003 :) Enjoy...

Now that i lived up to my title, time to go out and grab a beer :lol:

[poiuy223]

hi Master gigi77, your run and everything is more impressive :toast: , at least you won't get the shxty ram program them first(oh ya , pry the heatspreaderand from geil reinstall on the shxty ram) then return to store and cost you nothing. I should learn this huh? :toast:
wow. a little harsh on someone just because they've taken the new WR with memory not from g.skill

[LoKi2k]

alright, alright.

today i will make a second run. i will make a pic of EVERY loop with cpu-z mem and cpu!

in this morning i had testet to run 8m and change the htt while running.... i got a reboot.....

but i will show you everything you want to see. i swear to my unborn son, that i am telling the truth!

edit:

i have a old xp-instalation. perhaps thats the matter. i will make a new acc and try again.

[El Snorro]

edit:
crap post :P sorry

[Zeus]

edit: not relevant after El Snorro's edit ;)

[LoKi2k]

what do you mean?

[Zeus]

alright, alright.

today i will make a second run. i will make a pic of EVERY loop with cpu-z mem and cpu!

in this morning i had testet to run 8m and change the htt while running.... i got a reboot.....

but i will show you everything you want to see. i swear to my unborn son, that i am telling the truth!

edit:

i have a old xp-instalation. perhaps thats the matter. i will make a new acc and try again.

One could change HTT and/or timings after the run and take a screen.

What cooling do you have?

[LoKi2k]

but yo can see, i took a pic before the run finished. on this pic you can see cpu-z with the timings.

i am @ watercooling.

but, here is nothing to disskuss anymore. new pics will come!

[Zeus]

but yo can see, i took a pic before the run finished. on this pic you can see cpu-z with the timings.

i am @ watercooling.

but, here is nothing to disskuss anymore. new pics will come!

You're right, sorry didn't see the picture was bigger than just the SuperPi screen. :brick:

Very nice clocks for watercooling!! :eek:

Looking forward to your new pics.

[LoKi2k]

i phoned with a friend and had a idea....

i have to check the thermal throttling. perhaps is it not disabled.

[LoKi2k]

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/20/532920/1280_6435643735613262.jpg

better? 2xcpuz and the a64-tweaker were on all the run. now i have to find a hosteer for a lot of pictures and some videos.

back to the time:

i did run with a new account. in the middle of the run the screensaver went on, i forgot to disable it. but, when someone is thinking i am faking, i will not run spi again. i am not faking something. you believe or not.

later the other pics getting online.

[Zeus]

Nobody says you're faking, it's just such an accomplishment that it's a bit hard to believe.

In a span of a week we saw 316, 317, 318 and then 320, all at 2,5-3-3-x.

Most ppl here know how hard it is to get TCCD running above 300 with TRCD at 3 in dual channel, that's why most are a bit sceptical to say the least. :)

Let me be the first to congratulate you, even though the time isn't what it could be. :toast:
Today i ran 313x10 2,5-4-3-5 and got 23minutes 2 seconds.

photobucket (www.photobucket.com) is a nice host for pics. ;)

[LoKi2k]

in a few minutes ill try some more ;)

[Zeus]

in a few minutes ill try some more ;)

Can you try with the A64 tweaker settings AndreYang posted in this thread?

[LoKi2k]

i need 64mb webspace with enough traffic.... i hope this are enough photos :D

[loc.o]

LoKi2k could you show a pic with ramcooling, ive read you like to keep them cold...

[ahmad]

It would also be very interesting to find out what voltage you run them at :slobber:

But those are some pretty nasty timings. Run some sandra for us. I doubt you would break 8gb/s.

[LoKi2k]

sandra is 8,5 gb. pics are comming. i am still searching for webspace.

for those setting i need 2,93 v.

[El Snorro]

I read on a dutch forum you are cooling them with chilled water?

[LoKi2k]

dutch? not german?

my hole sys is watercooled, the ram also. but i dont have waterteamps around 0°C. the water has everytime a temp of 20°C. this ist nothing special for the ram. everyone can cool his ram with a open window and a 120mm fan over the sticks. there wouldnt be a differnt.

when you look the videos, which are gettin online this evening, you can here my titan 500 :D

[El Snorro]

dutch? not german?

my hole sys is watercooled, the ram also. but i dont have waterteamps around 0°C. the water has everytime a temp of 20°C. this ist nothing special for the ram. everyone can cool his ram with a open window and a 120mm fan over the sticks. there wouldnt be a differnt.

when you look the videos, which are gettin online this evening, you can here my titan 500 :D

Well the guy you bought those sticks from posted that...

[LoKi2k]

you are right, he is dutch ;)

[x3ro]

Cool ... even more dutch people over here ^^. Btw.. what was the highest super pi 1m stable??

Regards

[LoKi2k]

http://home.arcor.de/loki2k/

[szukalski]

http://home.arcor.de/loki2k/

That says it all.

It's a bad day when people start doubting hours upon hours of hard work.

Congrats Loki.

[LoKi2k]

thanks a lot!! ;)

[Turrican]

Congratz, from me too ;)

[MaxxxRacer]

For What its worth my PC4800 elite plat will do 307 2.5-3-3-6 (didnt try tras 5). But only in memtest as my cpu cant even handle 300mhz... After 307 though it wont even boot despie timmings. So im gonna take a wild guess and say propose that it can do atleast 310.. maybe 315 if im lucky. just need a good mem controller.

[Mehmet_Ali]

unbelievable.congrats.

[s7e9h3n]

For What its worth my PC4800 elite plat will do 307 2.5-3-3-6 (didnt try tras 5). But only in memtest as my cpu cant even handle 300mhz... After 307 though it wont even boot despie timmings. So im gonna take a wild guess and say propose that it can do atleast 310.. maybe 315 if im lucky. just need a good mem controller.
Memtest sux - it gives almost no kinda estimation of how WINDOWS stable memory will be ;) WinMemtest, on the other hand, is a different story..........

[MaxxxRacer]

Well Stephen, I know my sticks can do atleast 3-4-4-10 at 300mhz.. that is stock. And OCZ tests them for a bit more aswell. The SPD is programmed for 303mhz 3-4-4-10 I believe.

And with that information I went to work. I tried 300 at these timmigns and it was a no go. After my first issues with memory, Tony gave me tons of tips to get these things tweaked out for best performance, so no, this isnt user error in not being able to setup my timmings.

SOO this means that the sticks are not the issue and that my memcontroller is.

Also, I tested 300mhz 2.5-3-3-6 today with winmemtest and it failed after about 60%. It passed 295mhz for 600% of winmemtest, but went to BSOD right after i closed winmemtest and opened up Opera.

.. Its at 290mhz right now and it passed winmemtest, and I am looping 3Dmark2001 for the day. Left it at 9am and will be back around 5:30pm. If its still running I will be a happy guy as atleast its stable at something decently high.

[ahmad]

You sure its not your HTT multi or CPU speed? What multis were you testing at?

[MaxxxRacer]

tried 7 and 8. 9 is too high for this cpu. HTT was at 3. The cpu is good for 2.6ghz and it was running at 2.4max.

Well 3dmark ran for a total of 11 minutes before erroring out... sigh..

time for 285...

[gundamit]

http://home.arcor.de/loki2k/ This looks like a 5 hour download for me. I'm on cable so I'm pretty sure the hosting site is the problem. Can someone rehost the file?

[LoKi2k]

he server is realy fast. i can download with full-speed = 340kb/sek

[x3ro]

me 2.. was done under 8 minutes...

Regards

[Zeus]

http://home.arcor.de/loki2k/

Why no pictures of your rig and cooling?
3200MHz under water is very impressive.

[SoF]

he server is realy fast. i can download with full-speed = 340kb/sek

muhahahahaha *daumenhoch*
YEAH LOKI YOU GOT IT :D
sooo sweeeet...CONGRATZ man already posted it on c³? think I haven't seen it, or have I ?!
WR goes to germany - :toast: :banana: :toast:

[Kasparz]

WR goes to germany - :toast: :banana: :toast:
:nono:
Quote eurovision song contest :D
..12 points goes to Germany :D

[SoF]

:nono:
Quote eurovision song contest :D
..12 points goes to Germany :D

maybe we should send loki there next year...this year we only had 2Points at all LOL....ok btt ;)

[LoKi2k]

hehe... when i start to sing, al countrys will give germany 12 points. because they will think "ohhhh give him the twelve points, perhaps he is going to stop singing then" :D


ok, my traffic is going to get out. perhaps someone can rehost the file.

@SOF:

look to the "news" @ c³ ;)

[dinos22]

yeah germany the poor buggers....terrible at eurovision but GREAT at ocing.....what a huge OC this is.....on both CPU and RAM mate.......have you tried lowering multiplier and going for more RAM MHz

[goodcooper]

what is this a WR for?

this guy has ddr720, his adata vitesta

http://www.rhcf.com/sisubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/46/10.html

also this was posted back in april :stick:

[LoKi2k]

wr for 2,5 3 3 5 1T

look @ the topic ;)

[Kasparz]

look at these uubercrapply timings first...

[GoThr3k]

no answars from the other TCCD owners who got 318/317
too bad