32m Low Clock Challenge [Archive] - Page 3

dinos22

03-04-2007, 09:33 PM

hey Vince are you sure Maxmem=600 won't give you even a more efficient score buddy...............do that and give it another crack while you're at it...........i want to see 8m 5Xs time :D for the 8m class here :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: heheheheheh

another thing you can try depending on how good your board is .....cool that vMCH and give it some DICE and 2.0V and try for 4:5 RATIO and lower RAM clocks as the latencies are tighter.................i think i found that 500MHz on RAM at 5-4-4-8 timings was equivalent in speed to 600MHz on memory in 2:3 ratio with 5-5-4-x timings

Zeus

03-04-2007, 11:10 PM

Wow Vince, that's another job well done!! :eek2::toast: :toast:

Do you think you can top that score at higher cpu speed or are you running out of memory speed?

before

03-04-2007, 11:31 PM

Very nice Vince! Congrats :toast:

I wish I can bench these clocks one day to challenge you buddy ;) What was the temp during the bench?

hey Vince are you sure Maxmem=600 won't give you even a more efficient score buddy...............do that and give it another crack while you're at it...........i want to see 8m 5Xs time :D for the 8m class here :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: heheheheheh

another thing you can try depending on how good your board is .....cool that vMCH and give it some DICE and 2.0V and try for 4:5 RATIO and lower RAM clocks as the latencies are tighter.................i think i found that 500MHz on RAM at 5-4-4-8 timings was equivalent in speed to 600MHz on memory in 2:3 ratio with 5-5-4-x timings

I've stopped using maxmem myself... Doesn't really help, a good copy-waza is the key to be focused on. :p:

hipro5

03-05-2007, 12:16 AM

Guys I :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing did it! I think new overall WR in superpi 32m at only 5261mhz :D. I am posting this here because I want to share it with my low clock challenge homies :toast: . Without the help of some of you guys, I could have never have done this...really. Give credit where credit is due. I appreciate it very, very much. Before, dinos, gautum, and others I pm'd. I busted my ass for almost two weeks on this score and it paid off like hard work always does.
http://www.overclockingpin.com/32mwr.jpg

Ha, ha, ha.......Did you use the "OPB cheat" - oh sorry OPB tweak I wanted to say - Vince?......:D

eva2000

03-05-2007, 12:49 AM

alpha0ne

03-05-2007, 01:02 AM

Ha, ha, ha.......Did you use the "OPB cheat" - oh sorry OPB tweak I wanted to say - Vince?......:D

HEHEHEHHEHEHE and about 20 other names inserted there too :banana: :slapass:

dinos22

03-05-2007, 04:54 AM

Very nice Vince! Congrats :toast:

I wish I can bench these clocks one day to challenge you buddy ;) What was the temp during the bench?

I've stopped using maxmem myself... Doesn't really help, a good copy-waza is the key to be focused on. :p:
i haven't yet tested maxmem with all the other tweaks inluding the luna+silver+wazza+highclockinstall....just sold off my gear and looking out for something else to play with, so for the moment only E6300ES to play with lol but at least i can give it a crack in the 1066 strap and lower categories even though i'll pay a sizable penalty for B1

i think Vince should look into 4:5 as well though

hipro5

03-05-2007, 05:21 AM

i think Vince should look into 4:5 as well though

Agree here......Less internal latency....;)

before

03-05-2007, 05:53 AM

Unfortunately, it's hard to make 4:5 working... guess it becomes a matter of chipset.

k|ngp|n

03-05-2007, 07:04 AM

Very nice Vince! Congrats :toast:
I wish I can bench these clocks one day to challenge you buddy ;) What was the temp during the bench?
I've stopped using maxmem myself... Doesn't really help, a good copy-waza is the key to be focused on. :p:

I was running about -120c to -125c on the cpu, still unlapped. Can do 5374mhz 1m at little bit colder like -125c to -127c/1.87v. I think with more than 1.92v, this could end up being a 5400mhz+ 3d cpu. I will go back to 3d soon, so we'll see.
I tried some diff maxmem sizes with no success on core2, doesnt seem to help like it did with fx57/maxmem104.

Hey before, if you have problems with your next container you try, you should get one of my EVO's man :D. I can walk away from the pc after a pour to get something to eat from the fridge, hit the bathroom and come back to about 2-3degress less temperature at nearly 5300mhz/1.87v mid 32m.
Benching one unit in superpi with core2 is tooo easy.

before

03-05-2007, 07:13 AM

ah you make me jealous bro! That's an impressive pot for sure. :D

Will get my new solid copper container this evening; a kind of MM rev.2 replica; but much longer. Hope it'll rock...

k|ngp|n

03-05-2007, 07:20 AM

ah you make me jealous bro! That's an impressive pot for sure. :D

Will get my new solid copper container this evening; a kind of MM rev.2 replica; but much longer. Hope it'll rock...

Who made it? I am sure it will be good.
Big difference between running 3d and 2d as for load on the container of course. Single threaded sp just doesnt push the chips that hard. As soon as you go over 1.9v, the heat output goes up big time though. Trick is to find that zone with the chip where the heat ouput/voltage is perfect. That's when I like benching ln2 :D
Wait till you run some 06' with quadcore :eek:, that is the toughest test of a unit IMO.

before

03-05-2007, 07:26 AM

It was made by the University of Grenoble (France) Department of Physics... a chance, my mother is an Honorary Professor of Biochemistry at the university... so it helps;

I'm waiting for QX6700 + P5N32 + 8800GTX lent by a magazine... Will be the opportunity to test the container into strong conditions :D

s7e9h3n

03-05-2007, 08:04 AM

I can walk away from the pc after a pour to get something to eat from the fridge, hit the bathroom and come back to about 2-3degress less temperature at nearly 5300mhz/1.87v mid 32m.
#1 or #2? :p: BTW, nice work on that 32m :toast:
Maybe you - or anybody else for that matter - can help me figure out what the hell is going on with this Intel rig I've got here. I thought it'd be fun to try to go sub-13 min @ 3600, but it turns out I spent most of the night trying to go sub-14 min @ 3600 . I applied almost every tweak I know of - keep in mind that I only know AMD tweaks - and didn't even break into the 13's. WTF IS WRONG????? This is on an EVGA 680i and the memory's @ 2.5V. For the record, these stix are a pair of gems as they'll boot @ 4-4-3-4, DDR2 1250 at 2.5Vmem....too bad they don't run worth a crap @ that speed though. Time to do the vmem mod....;)

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9853/9x400ddr57143332m2k3eb5.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6397/9x400ddr60032m2k3lc2.jpg

JMKS

03-05-2007, 08:07 AM

Guys I :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing did it! I think new overall WR in superpi 32m at only 5261mhz :D.
:woot: :clap:
Now I know why I couldn't beat such scores clock by clock ;).

Could You post the subtimings used, please?

What about 1M 2:3?
And what is limiting now? :D

And last question: i975X with 4:5 - how high it will go?

@s7e9h3n: Command Rate 1T is very important for NV680i (and the chipset isn't really good in Pi...). And also not all memory ratios are good. If You can run 3:2 ratio linked 1T (mem @ 1066 1T of course, don't know if possible) it will be much better.

And yes, 4:5 is extremaly difficult on i965 - Commando with 2,025V @ NB (aircooled, but REALLY low temperature, ambient <0°C and HR-05 + some fans) tops @ ~425 FSB (with optimized subtimings and 1066 strap of course).

eva2000

03-05-2007, 08:14 AM

nah JMKS - 1T won't help unless you can get memory to do 520+ mhz 4-4-4-4 1T with tight sub timings. Most high end Micron D9 are doing around 430-450mhz 4-4-x-x 1T with 2.4-2.6+ vdimm only

Doesn't help for 3dmark either 1T if you have ram that does 533mhz 4-3-3-4 2T tight sub timings either > http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3773

#1 or #2? :p: BTW, nice work on that 32m :toast:
Maybe you - or anybody else for that matter - can help me figure out what the hell is going on with this Intel rig I've got here. I thought it'd be fun to try to go sub-13 min @ 3600, but it turns out I spent most of the night trying to go sub-14 min @ 3600 . I applied almost every tweak I know of - keep in mind that I only know AMD tweaks - and didn't even break into the 13's. WTF IS WRONG????? This is on an EVGA 680i and the memory's @ 2.5V. For the record, these stix are a pair of gems as they'll boot @ 4-4-3-4, DDR2 1250 at 2.5Vmem....too bad they don't run worth a crap @ that speed though. Time to do the vmem mod....;)
you need 600+ mhz on memory on either 965/975 or 680i platform to even come close and probably need B2 stepping core2 for 10-20 seconds clock for clock faster times than B1

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/400-600-5333-2-1-2-7-2-22_1.475-2.525-1.35-1.75-1.55-1.35/superpi-32m_single_13m13s859ms.png

try 600mhz 4-3-3-4 to see

s7e9h3n

03-05-2007, 08:23 AM

s7e9h3n: Command Rate 1T is very important for NV680i (and the chipset isn't really good in Pi...). And also not all memory ratios are good. If You can run 3:2 ratio linked 1T (mem @ 1066 1T of course, don't know if possible) it will be much better.

Lol....1066@1t? Sheesh....that's not gonna be too easy. I'll try 32m @ as hgih as 1t will take me and post back...thanks...

@ Eva: Exactly how much over 600+? ;) My sticks are capable of it. Just need a tad bit more Vmem....Maybe it's time I try running 4x1gb ddr2 1200 @ 4-3-3-4 :hehe:

k|ngp|n

03-05-2007, 08:25 AM

#1 or #2? :p: BTW, nice work on that 32m :toast:
Maybe you - or anybody else for that matter - can help me figure out what the hell is going on with this Intel rig I've got here. I thought it'd be fun to try to go sub-13 min @ 3600, but it turns out I spent most of the night trying to go sub-14 min @ 3600 . I applied almost every tweak I know of - keep in mind that I only know AMD tweaks - and didn't even break into the 13's. WTF IS WRONG????? This is on an EVGA 680i and the memory's @ 2.5V. For the record, these stix are a pair of gems as they'll boot @ 4-4-3-4, DDR2 1250 at 2.5Vmem....too bad they don't run worth a crap @ that speed though. Time to do the vmem mod....;)

heh #3 ;)
and def what eva said Steve. First thing I learned when I started benching 32m was to ditch the b1 stepping. Pretty significant difference in time between the two steppings. Something to do with cache utilization?? Not sure.

eva2000

03-05-2007, 08:33 AM

well my ram is capable of 640mhz 5-4-3-4 2T at 2.5v but had to loosen sub timings too much that it was slower than my 600mhz 5-3-3-3 very tight sub timings at 9x400FSB.. so i'd say you'd need 622-640mhz 4-3-3-4 with same tight sub timings as at 600mhz 4-3-3-4 to get their on 680i platform.

I just don't have the ram to do that and I limit myself to under 2.5-2.6v vdimm as I like my ram and don't want to kill them hehe

s7e9h3n

03-05-2007, 08:53 AM

heh #3 ;)
and def what eva said Steve. First thing I learned when I started benching 32m was to ditch the b1 stepping. Pretty significant difference in time between the two steppings. Something to do with cache utilization?? Not sure.
It's gotta have something to do with the cache as the 1m times seem at least close to par....I'm not in any position to ditch this cpu as it's not mine :p: But maybe it'll be good for a few 1m passes @ -100C on the auto :D Oh well, I guess for 32m, I'll just have to wait for a few quads from AMD ;)

@ EvaL OK...I'll try tighter...but for some 1m runs instead. I guess we've established that this cpu is a POS in 32m :p:

i found nemo

03-05-2007, 08:57 AM

^If I remember his thread right, he tested Super Pi on two seperate installs, with the same settings except one install was done at 2000mhz and another at 2800mhz. The 2800mhz was faster in both 1m and 32m. OPB has also been using this tweak for quite a while, and installs windows at over 5300mhz IIRC.

??? bull i install windows o/c'ed all the time and i get 32.7xx in 1m ... so ur saying if i install windows on stock it will be even slower?

eva2000

03-05-2007, 09:05 AM

only a prob if you are in for 3.6ghz challenge.. if you can clock B1 higher than B2 to a pt then overall 32M might be faster than B2 but with -100C monster of yours I'm sure you'll be able to max out any cpu LOL

s7e9h3n

03-05-2007, 11:28 AM

massman

03-05-2007, 11:53 AM

massman please post a thread explaining exactly what you did

i will test that against your claims with a nlite-d XP and installation at 3.8GHz to see if it makes a difference

Owkey, I installed a few server03 OS'es with my 3000+ venice at:

7x200=1400
8x200=1600
9x200=1800
9x333=3000

Same timings, mem speed ... Only the multiplier changed the first three installations. The last one was done with 133 divider.

The 3000 > 1800 > 1600 > 1400 installation when benching at the same speeds.

k|ngp|n

03-05-2007, 12:46 PM

Owkey, I installed a few server03 OS'es with my 3000+ venice at:

7x200=1400
8x200=1600
9x200=1800
9x333=3000

Same timings, mem speed ... Only the multiplier changed the first three installations. The last one was done with 133 divider.

The 3000 > 1800 > 1600 > 1400 installation when benching at the same speeds.

Are you speaking of installation times or actual speed of the benchmarks when you refer to one being faster than the other? Got any screenshots for bench results?

BTW-- my comment about installing the OS overclocked was joking ,that is definitely not one of my tweaks lol :D
In fact the last time I installed 2k3 I did it at 800mhz more than previous time because I was too lazy to go back into bios to lower settings, and the times were indentical on all of my pre-ln2 run checks.

massman

03-05-2007, 12:51 PM

Are you speaking of installation times or actual speed of the benchmarks when you refer to one being faster than the other? Got any screenshots for bench results?

Actual speed of benchmarks. Results were on the crashed OCX forum and I haven't saved the screens.

dinos22

03-05-2007, 01:28 PM

#1 or #2? :p: BTW, nice work on that 32m :toast:
Maybe you - or anybody else for that matter - can help me figure out what the hell is going on with this Intel rig I've got here. I thought it'd be fun to try to go sub-13 min @ 3600, but it turns out I spent most of the night trying to go sub-14 min @ 3600 . I applied almost every tweak I know of - keep in mind that I only know AMD tweaks - and didn't even break into the 13's. WTF IS WRONG????? This is on an EVGA 680i and the memory's @ 2.5V. For the record, these stix are a pair of gems as they'll boot @ 4-4-3-4, DDR2 1250 at 2.5Vmem....too bad they don't run worth a crap @ that speed though. Time to do the vmem mod....;)
S7 there are two things not helping you there

the chip is B1 stepping
you are on 680i mobo

move to P965/975 and find a B2 chip and you will start hitting low 13M :toast:

dinos22

03-05-2007, 01:30 PM

Zeus

03-05-2007, 01:33 PM

Managed to shave off more than 30MHz for sub 13minutes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/SuperPifactory/32M12min573755.jpg

:)

Still miles away from KP though.

Gautam

03-05-2007, 02:06 PM

Probably the fastest for i975X yet though.

dinos22

03-05-2007, 02:40 PM

Zeus have you tried 3-3-3-x timings on 975X.....you should be able to do better with tighter timings from what i've seen on all W.R. attempts with 975X ...none of them ran CAS4

Gautam

03-05-2007, 02:44 PM

Hm, getting the CAS 3 power to do it would be difficult. I should have tried when I had the chance. My guess is 460x8-470x8 3-3-3 with the right subs would pull it. But yes, 450 3-3-3 is about 5-10 seconds faster than 500 4-4-3 on i975x, though it takes a hell of a lot more voltage, and much better clocking silicon for both the ram and northbridge.

I did 13:21 myself at 450x8, never posted it out of shame against these super 965 times. :D

HermS

03-05-2007, 04:14 PM

Owkey, I installed a few server03 OS'es with my 3000+ venice at:

7x200=1400
8x200=1600
9x200=1800
9x333=3000

Same timings, mem speed ... Only the multiplier changed the first three installations. The last one was done with 133 divider.

The 3000 > 1800 > 1600 > 1400 installation when benching at the same speeds.

I was really intrigued by this so decided to give it a little test for myself and here is what I found:-

Installed at 9 x 266 (2.4GHz) - Bench run at 9 x 400 (3.6GHz)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q148/JAFFA22/defaultinstall.png

Then I installed @ 9 x 500 (4.5GHz) - Bench run at 9 x 400 (3.6GHz)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q148/JAFFA22/4.png

I figured that the vast difference in clocks at install should show any inconsistency if there was any, but basically they turned out pretty much identical, Slightly interesting that the second run started out marginally quicker then slowed down until in the end it was a couple of seconds slower, but nothing to get excited about.

Oh well was worth a try, nothing ventured nothing gained as they say :toast: :D

Maff

dinos22

03-05-2007, 04:24 PM

nice one Herms (Maff) :D :lol2:

so much for that theory heh

alpha0ne

03-05-2007, 09:07 PM

Farrrk me Maff I dont think I have ever seen anyone load an OS @ 9x500 :shocked: :party: :cheer:

Zeus

03-05-2007, 11:19 PM

Zeus have you tried 3-3-3-x timings on 975X.....you should be able to do better with tighter timings from what i've seen on all W.R. attempts with 975X ...none of them ran CAS4

I tried but something on my rig has a big dislike for CAS 3, don't know wheter it's the board or the RAM, tried to boot at 350 with 2.4V but it doesn't make it all the way into windows.

Somewhere in the end when it's loading the USB driver for my wireless dongle it's hanging.

I think the mem should be capable of doing CAS 3 somewhere up to 400MHz at least (Gskill 6400HZ) with reasonable voltage.

Also tried 2:3 divider but that's a sort of same story as CAS 3, the board probably hates it.

I will try some more but i don't want to fubar my OS as it's my everyday install. :D

alpha0ne

03-06-2007, 12:03 AM

I tried 4-3-3-7 with my HZ's in sig and no matter the Vdimm or sub timings they just wont play stable, thats using both 975 and 965 boards :confused:

hipro5

03-06-2007, 01:44 AM

SLi_dog

03-06-2007, 01:48 AM

Heh, heh, heh........We are all of theories and nothing else as for gain....

My theory is to install Windows at 166MHz fsb with the lower multi x 6 ......Thas will give you EXACLTY 6.780sec less in 32M......;) :rolleyes:
LOL, try installing XP with this then :D

From here --> http://www.winhistory.de/more/386/xpmini_eng.htm

http://www.winhistory.de/more/386/Screenshot8mhz_system.gif

hipro5

03-06-2007, 02:07 AM

LOL, try installing XP with this then :D

Dumn!......I bet that you'll get the BEST time even.....:D

loc.o

03-06-2007, 03:00 AM

My first result with new mem kit. Stil a lot of work to be done :D Need a little more vdimm for 600 4-4-4.

570 4-4-4:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/32M57144410.jpg

massman

03-06-2007, 10:19 AM

i just find this comical

can you tell us what the difference in times was between 1M and 32M at same CPU speeds after every one of those installs

I wish I'd remember, but I tested it a long time ago. If you want ... I can't give it another try this weekend ;)

massman

03-06-2007, 10:32 AM

I was really intrigued by this so decided to give it a little test for myself and here is what I found:-

Installed at 9 x 266 (2.4GHz) - Bench run at 9 x 400 (3.6GHz)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q148/JAFFA22/defaultinstall.png

Then I installed @ 9 x 500 (4.5GHz) - Bench run at 9 x 400 (3.6GHz)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q148/JAFFA22/4.png

I figured that the vast difference in clocks at install should show any inconsistency if there was any, but basically they turned out pretty much identical, Slightly interesting that the second run started out marginally quicker then slowed down until in the end it was a couple of seconds slower, but nothing to get excited about.

Oh well was worth a try, nothing ventured nothing gained as they say :toast: :D

Maff

Windows XP?

HermS

03-06-2007, 11:25 AM

yes massman.

massman

03-06-2007, 11:33 AM

yes massman.

I used Server03 to do the tests + A64.

I just checked my other hdd, but haven't found the screens :(. If there is serious interest, I'll do the tests again this weekend. If you all think this is worth nothing, please tell me, so I won't waste time.

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 11:35 AM

try 600mhz 4-3-3-4 to see
Finally making some progress....Check out the Vmem ;)

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7695/9x400ddr60043332m2k3wx9.jpg

Zeus

03-06-2007, 12:04 PM

Very nice memclocks and timings but the calculationtime is still bad.

Congrats on breaking 14 minutes, must have been a relief. :D

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 12:23 PM

Very nice memclocks and timings but the calculationtime is still bad.

Congrats on breaking 14 minutes, must have been a relief. :D
Yep, but remember, this cpu is a garbage 32m chip on a garbage 32m platform. Maybe I'll have to borrow a 965 or 975 board and see what happens :p:

Gautam

03-06-2007, 12:37 PM

Heh, don't let George (eva) catch you saying that the 680i is a garbage Pi platform. :p:

Perhaps the subs need some work?

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 12:45 PM

Heh, don't let George (eva) catch you saying that the 680i is a garbage Pi platform. :p:

Perhaps the subs need some work?
How can they get any tighter? :p:

Zeus

03-06-2007, 12:53 PM

Yep, but remember, this cpu is a garbage 32m chip on a garbage 32m platform. Maybe I'll have to borrow a 965 or 975 board and see what happens :p:

I take that you refuse to get an Intel rig yourself bro?

Why don't you get a P5B deluxe and a B2 chip and show us how it's done man. ;)

kiwi

03-06-2007, 12:53 PM

I got p5n-e (650i) today, will take a look how bad it is :D

Gautam

03-06-2007, 12:57 PM

How can they get any tighter? :p:
Uhhhh....uhhhhhh.....your tRAS could be 3!

:runs:

NiCKE^

03-06-2007, 01:38 PM

You will need lower tRFC I believe.

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 01:56 PM

Uhhhh....uhhhhhh.....your tRAS could be 3!

:runs:
Just for you :toast: Any other bright ideas? :p: LOL And, NO, I'm not gonna try to run CL3 or 1T @ 600 :D

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/741/9x400ddr600433332m2k3to4.jpg

You will need lower tRFC I believe.
TBH, 20's as low as I've seen myself on a 32m. OPB has said in the past that 18 is possible...I believe it, but haven't yet tried. Even at 18 though, the most I'd pick up would be ~1.5 - 2 seconds total off of the 32m @ trfc20....

Zeus

03-06-2007, 02:41 PM

You could use the Windows XP theme in olive or silver and run SuperPi in realtime prio if you didn't already, that might shave off another second or so... :D

dinos22

03-06-2007, 02:42 PM

S7 the timings are nice and tight...but the issue is still 680i + B1 chip for you............check eva2000's screenshots as he's been able to put the striker to low 13M runs with such timings on B2 chip........

i don't know what the difference is between B1 and B2 in 32M runs but i assume it will be sizable

before

03-06-2007, 03:05 PM

You could use the Windows XP theme in olive or silver and run SuperPi in realtime prio if you didn't already, that might shave off another second or so... :D

Right! Spi.exe needs theme service running in order to properly call uxtheme.dll millions of times during a run. :p: Then Luna theme is IMO way lighter than Classic... :)

dinos22

03-06-2007, 03:07 PM

Right! Spi.exe needs theme service running in order to properly call uxtheme.dll millions of times during a run. :p: Then Luna theme is IMO way lighter than Classic... :)
does background image on Luna+silver change anything....noticed KP's been running a different one

hipro5

03-06-2007, 03:27 PM

How can they get any tighter? :p:

:D :D :toast:

Maybe try to install Windows from the begining.....?

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 03:30 PM

You could use the Windows XP theme in olive or silver and run SuperPi in realtime prio if you didn't already, that might shave off another second or so... :D
Thanx for the tip about the themes....didn't know about that one. I'm running 2k3, but will patch it with a theme. Already running priority though.......

@ Dinos: The difference is quite large between the B1 and B2. In fact, the B1 is by far the slowest of all the steppings. B3 is better, and B2's are the fastest......

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 03:42 PM

:D :D :toast:

Maybe try to install Windows from the begining.....?
Ok, let me rephrase: How can the timings get any tighter for mere mortals like us?

*Note: Hipro5 latencies are not applicable to 99.99% of the population. You have to either possess some sort of voodoo majic or have hardware manufactured @ Mt. Olympus to run such timings. :D

Yes, it's a new 2k3 install...by the way George, where do I find myself a Maximizer?

dinos22

03-06-2007, 03:43 PM

Thanx for the tip about the themes....didn't know about that one. I'm running 2k3, but will patch it with a theme. Already running priority though.......

@ Dinos: The difference is quite large between the B1 and B2. In fact, the B1 is by far the slowest of all the steppings. B3 is better, and B2's are the fastest......
i've played with both chips and from what i could figure out it was about 16 seconds on 680i.........but i really should have done more testing on 680i and P965 to be more certain :(

hipro5

03-06-2007, 04:05 PM

Ok, let me rephrase: How can the timings get any tighter for mere mortals like us?

*Note: Hipro5 latencies are not applicable to 99.99% of the population. You have to either possess some sort of voodoo majic or have hardware manufactured @ Mt. Olympus to run such timings. :D

Yes, it's a new 2k3 install...by the way George, where do I find myself a Maximizer?

I was joking...... :D Subtimings are already too tight..... ;) :)

Try 965.... :)

DDR Maximizer.......PM me for details.....;)

dinos22

03-06-2007, 04:36 PM

i'll have one if you're handing them out :D

will come in handy for an Aussie TV show on OCing i'll be a part of :D

SLi_dog

03-06-2007, 04:43 PM

will come in handy for an Aussie TV show on OCing i'll be a part of :D
ha ha, so you signed up eh dinos :D

Gunna be wicked fun bro :D

dinos22

03-06-2007, 05:06 PM

ha ha, so you signed up eh dinos :D

Gunna be wicked fun bro :D
yeah of course.....only because you and Rodney are coming

too bad eva2000 is a lazy bum :slapass: :D

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 06:45 PM

Right! Spi.exe needs theme service running in order to properly call uxtheme.dll millions of times during a run. :p: Then Luna theme is IMO way lighter than Classic... :)
OK, I tried the "theme tweak" and maybe the reason why I've never heard about it is because IT DOESN'T WORK :p:

Luna Theme
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2369/8x45032mawh6.jpg

Classic Theme
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7272/8x45032mer5.jpg

This is about as fast as this setup will go @ 3600. The only "big" tweak I didn't use was maxmem, but I never had too much success with it in the first place. It's quite amazing to see just how much the B2 steppings are faster than the B1's @ 32m. From what I'm told, while there's a difference in 1m's, the discrepancy isn't as bad.......

@Hipro: You'll be hearing from me in a bit ;)

Gautam

03-06-2007, 06:57 PM

I think that CPU just likes you only as much as you like it. :p:

It's true though, themes seems to help 1M noticeably, but doesn't have such a pronounced impact on 32M. I did however lose about 5 seconds, which isn't too bad for any tweak.

Some differences that I notice between you and eva-

You're at CAS 4, he's running CAS 5. Your FSB is 450, his is 400. Now one would think that both of those would be working towards your advantage, but 680i is such an odd chipset, its a chance both are hurting. :S Perhaps the 3:4 divider in particular as an additional latency hit, or perhaps you're on a looser strap or something similar as you would be on i965 by running a higher FSB.

Yes, B1's are slower, but IIRC its more like 10-15 seconds or so and not 30. I only tried 32M once on a B1, and that was months ago. I don't recall the time being too far off the norm. But then again, perhaps the effect is more pronounced on 680i than on the Intel chipsets. :shrug:

fhpchris

03-06-2007, 07:05 PM

Gautam

03-06-2007, 07:08 PM

That's not at all what I experienced, but I never did a straight compare. 45 seconds sounds nuts.

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 07:09 PM

Dumo said that his B1 was 45 seconds slower (~5%) in 32m...

450 fsb also is a higher strap than 400, as I hear it changes ~434ish and ~340 ish.

Cas 4-5 does not really matter all that much. Stephen, you might be running some timings too tight also :)
THIS IS DUMO'S CPU ;)

And what is all this talk about straps? :p:

Edit: And 5% sounds about right.....

Edit: So maybe I should try running the memory @ 622mhz Cl5? I started running 32m @ that speed 4-4-3-4, but obviously I didn't have enough Vmem since windows started closing by themselves until the whole OS locked up :D

dinos22

03-06-2007, 07:12 PM

B1 vs B2

~20 seconds

B2 E6600
32M SuperPI 3.6GHz CPU + 550MHz RAM 4-4-4-8 timings G.Skill HZ RAM
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3037/36ghz32msuperpi14m04656wd9.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36ghz32msuperpi14m04656wd9.jpg)
[/B]

B1 E6600
3.6GHz 32M SuperPI 550MHz on RAM 4-4-4-8
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7500/36ghz32msuperpi14m24875py1.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36ghz32msuperpi14m24875py1.jpg)

Gautam

03-06-2007, 07:16 PM

^^That's more reasonable.

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 07:25 PM

There's a difference here though....This cpu that I'm running is one of the first ES x6800's to come off the lot. Although Dino's tests show his cpu's aren't that far apart, I have feeling that it's not the same case for the x6800's. If I recall correctly, Kingpin posted a 32m run with his B1 @ a super high clockspeed as well as memspeed only the time was amazingly ugly for those clocks. His run must have been AT LEAST 5% off. Even the jap Oc'r Omega admitted that a RETAIL B2 x6800 Conroe has a 1-2 HUNDRED Mhz advantage over an ES B1 x6800 @ 5ghz+.....so, for example, a 5ghz B2 retail XE= a 5.2ghz ES B1 XE...

And Dinos, although you're comparing b1 vs. b2, both your cpu's are ES's. Therefore the B2 isn't necessarily an indication of how the retail B2's are.....

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 07:42 PM

Some differences that I notice between you and eva-

You're at CAS 4, he's running CAS 5. Your FSB is 450, his is 400. Now one would think that both of those would be working towards your advantage, but 680i is such an odd chipset, its a chance both are hurting. :S Perhaps the 3:4 divider in particular as an additional latency hit, or perhaps you're on a looser strap or something similar as you would be on i965 by running a higher FSB.

Yes, B1's are slower, but IIRC its more like 10-15 seconds or so and not 30. I only tried 32M once on a B1, and that was months ago. I don't recall the time being too far off the norm. But then again, perhaps the effect is more pronounced on 680i than on the Intel chipsets. :shrug:
OK, well then what about the benches I ran earlier using the SAME FSB as eva....only I was running 4-3-3-4 @ 600 vs. his 5-3-3-3 @ 600? His time was almost 40 seconds faster than mine. Lets, for a second, just simply ignore the fact that 4-3-3-4 is faster than 5-3-3-3 under ANY conditions and compare only the cpu's. Eva's is a retail B2 which - according to your theory - has a 15 second MAX advantage over the ES B1 I'm using. So doing a little math 40-15 = 25 seconds <--- that's how much faster Eva's run would be compared to mine IF it was a level playing field. Please, then, someone tell me the 25 SECONDS worth of tweaks for 32m that I'm either NOT doing or don't know about........:confused:

Gautam

03-06-2007, 07:56 PM

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 08:00 PM

It is very strange, I won't deny it. :shrug: And I don't know anything about 680i at all or how to run it.

And my B1 ES is a 6700, and my 6800 a retail B2. So who knows, perhaps that could be skewing things.
Tell ya what...Send me your b2 and I'll test it on the same rig....I guess I'll have to make this sacrifice for the good of the OCing community :D Bleh...Intel....:p:

fhpchris

03-06-2007, 09:37 PM

Tell ya what...Send me your b2 and I'll test it on the same rig....I guess I'll have to make this sacrifice for the good of the OCing community :D Bleh...Intel....:p:

You could try running something like 12x multi @ 300 FSB 1:2 unlinked :)

I might be able to pencil some voltage in and get 600mhz to pass 32m so we could compare to my quad...

*Note: Hipro5 latencies are not applicable to 99.99% of the population. You have to either possess some sort of voodoo majic or have hardware manufactured @ Mt. Olympus to run such timings

Some of us just call them fatbodies :)

s7e9h3n

03-06-2007, 09:47 PM

You could try running something like 12x multi @ 300 FSB 1:2 unlinked :)

I might be able to pencil some voltage in and get 600mhz to pass 32m so we could compare to my quad...

Some of us just call them fatbodies :)
Why would I run with the 12x multi? To see if the FSB has an impact on the 680i boards?

Your quad is a b1 :p: ? IIRC, all of them are b3's....right?

Yes, I know....but sure as hell, my fatties can't even come close to what Hipro runs his at......:D

fhpchris

03-06-2007, 09:48 PM

Your quad is a b1 :p: ? IIRC, all of them are b3's....right?

Yes, I know....but sure as hell, my fatties can't even come close to what Hipro runs his at......:D

My Quad is a B3 ES :) Some were 1s IIRC..

This is From GHZ..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/4ghz.jpg

What do you 1m @ that cpu speed? I know he is running 1T, but we have 170+ mhz ram on him with tighter timings :)

k|ngp|n

03-07-2007, 01:30 AM

s7e9h3n

03-07-2007, 01:42 AM

My Quad is a B3 ES :) Some were 1s IIRC..

This is From GHZ..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/4ghz.jpg

What do you 1m @ that cpu speed? I know he is running 1T, but we have 170+ mhz ram on him with tighter timings :)
Hmmm...I've run it in the past, but not with this pair of mems...I'll try later. But FWIW, I can run a 1m @ 3600 at a bit under 14 sec. Don't remember exactly.....

Thnx Vince....but one thing that would make it easier on both me and anybody else reading this thread - when we talk about the differences clock for clock between different steppings, it would be nice if we could state advantage and say @ what speed. A 30 second difference on a sub 10-min 32m is a much larger percentage than a 30 second difference on a 20-min run :)

k|ngp|n

03-07-2007, 08:44 AM

Hmmm...I've run it in the past, but not with this pair of mems...I'll try later. But FWIW, I can run a 1m @ 3600 at a bit under 14 sec. Don't remember exactly.....

Thnx Vince....but one thing that would make it easier on both me and anybody else reading this thread - when we talk about the differences clock for clock between different steppings, it would be nice if we could state advantage and say @ what speed. A 30 second difference on a sub 10-min 32m is a much larger percentage than a 30 second difference on a 20-min run :)

Your right, didnt think of that. Well for me when I say 27-28 diff between the the two steppings, I am talking about aprox 3300-3400mhz cpu speed using 2:3 div config with 4-4-4-5.

Johnny Bravo

03-07-2007, 03:55 PM

So far so good....

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/Overclocking/IN9/32M%2012-39.JPG

next stop is some software tweaks ;)

before

03-08-2007, 07:32 AM

hey Johnny; I'll reply your PM ASAP ;)

So let me share this little run... first try with one of those Wintec kits I've received this morning.

AMPX PC2-8000C5 @2.61V DMM with a fresh install of Win XP and only LSC=1 + real time priority as tweaks... nothing more! All the other stuff was running, explorer.exe included.

I must say Wintec roxxes!! I definitely love this brand! TBH I didn't really expect performance like that; bloody hell!... D9GKX I guess. :rolleyes:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9342/e6600spi32m13m09672sfx6.png

So; I'll try to improve it under 2k3 and few tips.

alpha0ne

03-08-2007, 08:08 AM

Thats worth looking at before :toast: :clap: :banana:

Rol-Co

03-08-2007, 08:23 AM

like i said in the other topic ,the wintec has gkx mem irev210 has taken of the heatspreaders of one set. :)

can you try cl5-5-5 ?

Gautam

03-08-2007, 08:44 AM

hey Johnny; I'll reply your PM ASAP ;)

So let me share this little run... first try with one of those Wintec kits I've received this morning.

AMPX PC2-8000C5 @2.61V DMM with a fresh install of Win XP and only LSC=1 + real time priority as tweaks... nothing more! All the other stuff was running, explorer.exe included.

I must say Wintec roxxes!! I definitely love this brand! TBH I didn't really expect performance like that; bloody hell!... D9GKX I guess. :rolleyes:

Looks great! I see things are gonna be heating up quick. :D

before

03-08-2007, 08:48 AM

@Rol-Co: not yet :) what about yours?

@Gautam: hehe :D I've just started the copy-wazza a minute ago...

Rol-Co

03-08-2007, 08:52 AM

cant test them , they are still not here :( a few day's

edit:
and daniel tested only at dual 32m 4-4-4-5-4-35-3-10-5-12 2.45v p5b deluxe.

kemo

03-08-2007, 09:27 AM

like i said in the other topic ,the wintec has gkx mem irev210 has taken of the heatspreaders of one set. :)

can you try cl5-5-5 ?
I can also confirm that they are GKX but don't know anything about their quality and the PCB

before

03-08-2007, 10:02 AM

ahh too bad; I need to install 2k3 again... actual looks like corrupted. :(

I'll receive 25l of LN² tomorrow along with R1150 and a X6800 L624A... I need a perfect windows. :D

s7e9h3n

03-08-2007, 01:08 PM

What do you 1m @ that cpu speed? I know he is running 1T, but we have 170+ mhz ram on him with tighter timings :)
Here...ran last night:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7713/10x4001mmg6.jpg

Zeus

03-08-2007, 01:17 PM

s7e9h3n

03-08-2007, 01:27 PM

What's wrong with your setup man?
With memspeed that high and timings that tight you should have around 12.500 seconds or better.

I did better with my RAM at only 444MHz and 4-4-4-12 timings.

It's time for a better CPU man, that B1 seem to suck, even in 1M.
Yep....it's a shame...this very x6800 used to be considered the TOP x6800 in all the land....now it's just an over-the-hill, handicapped cpu with a case of mild retardation (In other words -> it's slow) :D

kiwi

03-08-2007, 01:33 PM

Quick test on 650i, p5n-e

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2604/52327522ok3.jpg

s7e9h3n

03-08-2007, 01:41 PM

Quick test on 650i, p5n-e

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2604/52327522ok3.jpg
For a second there, I thought that I must have REALLY lost touch with 32m's and then I realized you did this with a B2...whew :p:

kiwi

03-08-2007, 02:10 PM

Zeus

03-08-2007, 02:13 PM

Running SuperPi in realtime prio seem to help a little as well as the luna theme(for XP that is).

s7e9h3n

03-08-2007, 02:16 PM

Running SuperPi in realtime prio seem to help a little as well as the luna theme(for XP that is).
I'm just curious why "luna's" considered a theme while "classic" isn't? They're both listed under themes.....

Zeus

03-08-2007, 02:41 PM

I'm just curious why "luna's" considered a theme while "classic" isn't? They're both listed under themes.....

You tell me. :shrug:
Does Vista have a classic theme that looks like the luna theme?

s7e9h3n

03-08-2007, 02:49 PM

You tell me. :shrug:
Does Vista have a classic theme that looks like the luna theme?
Dunno about Vista since I haven't tried it, but 2k3 has both Classic and Luna selectable as "themes" (as well as "silver" and "olive")

kiwi

03-08-2007, 02:53 PM

2k3 32bit is supposed to be better? My 2k3+sp1 install doesn't work that good and shows worse results

s7e9h3n

03-08-2007, 03:01 PM

2k3 32bit is supposed to be better? My 2k3+sp1 install doesn't work that good and shows worse results
I've always liked 2k3 for spi. For me, it's more stable and consistent. XP, when correctly tweeked is on par with 2k3, but rarely any better. One thing I've noticed though, XP will once in awhile spit out an unusual result - something which is a bit too slow or too fast for a particular speed/timings. Dunno what causes that, but 2k3 does it much less often, if at all.....

Gautam

03-08-2007, 03:19 PM

I agree fully about 2K3 vs. XP.

Either way I'm sure I ran a time in the 12.6 range at 400x10 3-3-3 1:1 with my B1 a couple of weeks ago, which isn't that special, you should be a full tenth faster, even without Luna on. Something is a bit odd about your setup. I don't know if the CPU is just getting tired or there's something behind the scenes going on with mem subsystem that we just can't put our fingers on. No clue what it could be though.

And Vista doesn't have anything besides Aero or Classic. Either way its horrible for Pi. :(

dinos22

03-08-2007, 03:30 PM

Maybe someone will share what tweaks give them most time bonus? :D Except tight memory timings which is not really OS tweak

1. Copy-waza gives ~9s
2. Largesyscache also ~9s
(This was on 965 though)

I haven't tried yet maxmem (does it work)? and a famous OPB cleaner. Someone said it works but I haven't tried it yet

Anything else? :D
before doesn't like maxmem but it works for me.....well i don't have seconds advantages to add but it was consistently faster with ~128MB for 1M and 600M for 32M

my LSC tweak gains more for me but who knows why

i look at the cleaner file and i can't see how it can make a big difference

someone please give me a reasonable explanation

@echo off
echo OPB is cleaning your garbages in your computer, please wait......
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.tmp
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*._mp
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.log
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.gid
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.chk
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.old
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\recycled\*.*
del /f /s /q %windir%\*.bak
del /f /s /q %windir%\prefetch\*.*
rd /s /q %windir%\temp & md %windir%\temp
del /f /q %userprofile%\cookies\*.*
del /f /q %userprofile%\recent\*.*
del /f /s /q "%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\*.*"
del /f /s /q "%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temp\*.*"
del /f /s /q "%userprofile%\recent\*.*"
echo hahahaha it is DONE!!
echo. & pause

wazza for me is around 5 seconds on 3.6GHz runs

s7e9h3n

03-08-2007, 03:43 PM

before doesn't like maxmem but it works for me.....well i don't have seconds advantages to add but it was consistently faster with ~128MB for 1M and 600M for 32M

my LSC tweak gains more for me but who knows why

i look at the cleaner file and i can't see how it can make a big difference

someone please give me a reasonable explanation

@echo off
echo OPB is cleaning your garbages in your computer, please wait......
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.tmp
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*._mp
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.log
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.gid
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.chk
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.old
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\recycled\*.*
del /f /s /q %windir%\*.bak
del /f /s /q %windir%\prefetch\*.*
rd /s /q %windir%\temp & md %windir%\temp
del /f /q %userprofile%\cookies\*.*
del /f /q %userprofile%\recent\*.*
del /f /s /q "%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\*.*"
del /f /s /q "%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temp\*.*"
del /f /s /q "%userprofile%\recent\*.*"
echo hahahaha it is DONE!!
echo. & pause

wazza for me is around 5 seconds on 3.6GHz runs
Looks like it's trying to free up cache.....

@ Gautam: I'll see what I can find out about this setup later on....don't really know what it could be though since I'm pretty sure I set up windows correctly :p:

dinos22

03-08-2007, 03:54 PM

Looks like it's trying to free up cache.....

but if you do those operations manually it doesn't really give gains

DID anyone replicate the speed he had on those runs aside from his buddies (i guess someone objective)

s7e9h3n

03-08-2007, 03:56 PM

but if you do those operations manually it doesn't really give gains

DID anyone replicate the speed he had on those runs aside from his buddies (i guess someone objective)
What speed and what runs?

Gautam

03-08-2007, 04:02 PM

Who ever said that before doesn't like maxmem? :p:

Johnny Bravo

03-08-2007, 05:18 PM

2k3 vs XP part II

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=90566

hmmmmmmm is it really worth the change from XP -> 2k3 ?

Gautam

03-08-2007, 05:25 PM

To each their own, besides that that was A64. On Conroe, XP scores .02 sec worse than 2K3 in 1M, and 5 seconds worse in 32M for me.

dinos22

03-08-2007, 05:53 PM

What speed and what runs?
efficiency of those runs was questioned but hipro and the gang

did anyone one of them replicate those results as they thought they were too good to be true

dinos22

03-08-2007, 05:54 PM

2k3 vs XP part II

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=90566

hmmmmmmm is it really worth the change from XP -> 2k3 ?
tweaked XPPro vs 2003 was same for me.....XP had an advantage in longer runs from memory

s7e9h3n

03-08-2007, 06:02 PM

efficiency of those runs was questioned but hipro and the gang

did anyone one of them replicate those results as they thought they were too good to be true
Don't think so, but we've all come to our own conclusions on that matter (there was the longest thread ever in the VIP section). Let's just move on and deal with things as they come up....As they say, "let's put this all behind us"......

BTW, IIRC the Japs all use 2k3 (or at least they used to). And they're the best Spi benchers in the world.....

dinos22

03-08-2007, 07:06 PM

Don't think so, but we've all come to our own conclusions on that matter (there was the longest thread ever in the VIP section). Let's just move on and deal with things as they come up....As they say, "let's put this all behind us"......

BTW, IIRC the Japs all use 2k3 (or at least they used to). And they're the best Spi benchers in the world.....
dude i'm not attacking anyone i am just asking if it works or not and what sort of gains people experienced

we are discussing tweaks here aren't we

s7e9h3n

03-08-2007, 07:09 PM

dude i'm not attacking anyone i am just asking if it works or not and what sort of gains people experienced

we are discussing tweaks here aren't we
And neither was I ;) ....I'm just trying to keep a can of worms from being re-opened :p:

Misko

03-08-2007, 07:18 PM

wazza for me is around 5 seconds on 3.6GHz runs

Than u are doing something wrong ;), try maxmem 600 and copy waza with 2GB+ file, it must be 10sec+ on 3.6ghz.

dinos22

03-08-2007, 07:38 PM

Than u are doing something wrong ;), try maxmem 600 and copy waza with 2GB+ file, it must be 10sec+ on 3.6ghz.
hey Misko

i am yet to do testing on Before's method with a 7GB file going from C>D>C and Luna theme+Silver

i think combined maxmem 600 and my old copy wazza would have been 10+ seconds as well but i want to see of before's method gains more

i am out of any decent CPUs now just my trusty E6300 so all the testing will be done at slow ass 2.8Ghz .....so much easier when runs finish quicker hehehe oh well

dinos22

03-08-2007, 08:01 PM

And neither was I ;) ....I'm just trying to keep a can of worms from being re-opened :p:
ok fair enough i thought you were having a go at me there

i agree i don't want no trouble just tweaks+results :D

alpha0ne

03-08-2007, 09:46 PM

i am out of any decent CPUs now just my trusty E6300 so all the testing will be done at slow ass 2.8Ghz .....so much easier when runs finish quicker hehehe oh well

Why only 2.80GHz ??, is it on strike or somfin :eek: :stick:

dinos22

03-08-2007, 09:49 PM

Why only 2.80GHz ??, is it on strike or somfin :eek: :stick:
400MHz FSB 1067 strap.........i guess i could clockgen higher too....actually that's probably not a bad idea but i don't know how high it would bench at that strap as i've never really tested

one other reason for 400MHz is becuse i can run the RAM at 600Mhz .......my 4:5 ratio struggled at 500MHz which suxors :slapass:

alpha0ne

03-08-2007, 09:59 PM

Sounds to me your just getting lazy :stick: :slap:

dinos22

03-08-2007, 10:19 PM

Sounds to me your just getting lazy :stick: :slap:
30 fast approaching in September.....i feel like it's time to slow down a little :p: :D

alpha0ne

03-08-2007, 10:35 PM

30 fast approaching in September.....i feel like it's time to slow down a little :p: :D

Hehehe my Son is older than you :D

dinos22

03-08-2007, 11:34 PM

Hehehe my Son is older than you :D
i knew that :p:

before

03-09-2007, 04:55 AM

alpha0ne

03-09-2007, 06:22 AM

Damn Anus and their buggy Vreg :fact: :slapass:

SLi_dog

03-09-2007, 09:10 AM

i am out of any decent CPUs now just my trusty E6300Hey dinos............look here (http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=E6600+intel)

Ya slack arse :p: :D

@before, sorry to hear about the hardware loss mate :(

Gautam

03-09-2007, 09:11 AM

wa77ss

03-09-2007, 09:23 AM

ouch..

before

03-09-2007, 09:24 AM

That's exactly what I was fearing. :(

yea; be careful bro :)

hipro5

03-09-2007, 10:09 AM

Get a DDR Maximizer......we want to sell hardware too.....:D

Sorry about your loss before.....I know the feeling...... :(

s7e9h3n

03-09-2007, 01:10 PM

Get a DDR Maximizer......we want to sell hardware too.....:D

Sorry about your loss before.....I know the feeling...... :(
That's EXACTLY what I was going to say as well :D

before

03-09-2007, 02:02 PM

I start thinking about it... :)

dinos22

03-09-2007, 04:12 PM

:O new interface....well borders hehe

Before that is awful man :(

dinos22

03-09-2007, 04:24 PM

Hey dinos............look here (http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=E6600+intel)

Ya slack arse :p: :D

it's pot luck with CPUs....would be nice to bump into a decent stepping

k|ngp|n

03-11-2007, 07:24 AM

ahh guys; I've killed 1 module of the Wintec kit... :( Really don't know why... After the loss of performance of my STT kit, I'm starting to think the Commando is suspicious!! :slapass:

I've noticed it doesn't give good Vdimm... for instance; once you can get 2.65V with a particular setting, and after the following boot Vdimm can be obviously 2.73V... so Commando owners be careful! It may be only a matter with mine... but... ;)

Ouch! :( my Commando should finally be here tommorrow and that's good to know...you still think it was the board?? Try any other sticks with it?? I will bypass the vdimm ciruitry with the maxi prolly anyways.
How is the ln2 testing going on that chip btw??

s7e9h3n

03-11-2007, 01:27 PM

it's pot luck with CPUs...

LOL...I think you mean "crap shoot"?

before

03-11-2007, 02:01 PM

Ouch! :( my Commando should finally be here tommorrow and that's good to know...you still think it was the board?? Try any other sticks with it?? I will bypass the vdimm ciruitry with the maxi prolly anyways.
How is the ln2 testing going on that chip btw??

Yea; I'm pretty sure the problem is the board. :(

I've quickly tried my new container on a E6600 and a X6800... it looks good; but I've to wait for another X6800 tomorrow; a L624A610, same FPO/BATCH than the one of OC_Windforce; hope to be lucky too. Anyway, week 24 doesn't seem to be a bad one. :rolleyes:

Gautam

03-11-2007, 02:30 PM

My Commando's here...DOA. :upset:

Perhaps 965 and I just aren't meant for each other. :p:

spectrum48

03-11-2007, 03:20 PM

evening gents:)

are little 6300's allowed?

14m 10.656sec @ 3.6ghz (http://mnetcs.com/thumb/storage/b6990044.JPG)

no 'special' tweaks, 1333 strap too

dinos22

03-11-2007, 04:10 PM

evening gents:)

are little 6300's allowed?

14m 10.656sec @ 3.6ghz (http://mnetcs.com/thumb/storage/b6990044.JPG)

no 'special' tweaks, 1333 strap too

the idea is to get sub 14m , sub 15m, sub 16m times .....etc

so you either should drop the CPU MHz so that your time finishes around 14m 5Xs or increase the CPU MHz to go under 14m in something like 13m 5Xs time :)

your time is nice for 1333 strap :)

spectrum48

03-11-2007, 04:31 PM

the idea is to get sub 14m , sub 15m, sub 16m times .....etc

so you either should drop the CPU MHz so that your time finishes around 14m 5Xs or increase the CPU MHz to go under 14m in something like 13m 5Xs time :)

your time is nice for 1333 strap :)

thanx:toast:

i'll try again soon

dinos22

03-11-2007, 04:36 PM

My Commando's here...DOA. :upset:

Perhaps 965 and I just aren't meant for each other. :p:

oh man what the hell is going on with Commandos they are popping dead all over the place lol

maybe try the DFI version and see how long that one lasts lol

before

03-12-2007, 07:39 AM

My Commando's here...DOA. :upset:

Perhaps 965 and I just aren't meant for each other. :p:

Oops sorry to hear bro :( Did you try a long clear CMOS?

On my side I've some pretty good news; I've received a X6800 L624A610 and it loaded Win at 5.2GHz@1.64V DMM (Vcore mod didn't work :rolleyes: ) under -118C pot temp. :slobber:

Can't wait to see this chip with 1.8V or 1.9V... Might be a killer one! :D

spectrum48

03-12-2007, 11:32 AM

14m 53.375sec (http://mnetcs.com/thumb/storage/b3967018.JPG) @ <3.3ghz:)

that's the highest i can go on 1066 strap (unmodded p5d dlx)

Gautam

03-12-2007, 09:45 PM

Oops sorry to hear bro :( Did you try a long clear CMOS?

On my side I've some pretty good news; I've received a X6800 L624A610 and it loaded Win at 5.2GHz@1.64V DMM (Vcore mod didn't work :rolleyes: ) under -118C pot temp. :slobber:

Can't wait to see this chip with 1.8V or 1.9V... Might be a killer one! :D

Sounds extremely promising! Looks like you finally found a keeper.

Btw, try and do another sub 4 GHz run sometime. :p:

before

03-13-2007, 01:05 AM

Ok; no problem :)

esdee

03-13-2007, 08:55 AM

very nice thread! im in ;)

Gautam

03-13-2007, 08:03 PM

Quite a formidable time there esdee. :)

s7e9h3n

03-13-2007, 08:07 PM

Quite a formidable time there esdee. :)

Yes, it is.....too bad we've gotten so off topic here that we've forgotten what this thread was originally about :D I vote that a mod please make this whole "Best Spi 32m @ 3600" a thread of it's own with Gautam leading the discussion (if that's OK with him). Sorry coop for taking up at least 4 or 5 pages of your thread with all this talk :toast:

dinos22

03-13-2007, 08:10 PM

Yes, it is.....too bad we've gotten so off topic here that we've forgotten what this thread was originally about :D I vote that a mod please make this whole "Best Spi 32m @ 3600" a thread of it's own with Gautam leading the discussion (if that's OK with him). Sorry coop for taking up at least 4 or 5 pages of your thread with all this talk :toast:

or you can simply chime in at i4memory.com (eva2000's forum) and show you face there in a Thread dedicated to 3.6GHz runs :toast:

http://www.i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3017

Gautam

03-13-2007, 08:25 PM

Yes, it is.....too bad we've gotten so off topic here that we've forgotten what this thread was originally about :D I vote that a mod please make this whole "Best Spi 32m @ 3600" a thread of it's own with Gautam leading the discussion (if that's OK with him). Sorry coop for taking up at least 4 or 5 pages of your thread with all this talk :toast:

ROFL

And sadly enough, I have yet to post any time myself here. However, if I ever get around to it, it hopefully will both meet the requirements of this thread and be at more or less 3600MHz (preferably less). ;)

dinos, that looks like a fun thread. Hope to take part in it soon.

kiwi

03-14-2007, 11:47 AM

Here is my CS pc8000 d9gkx, damn missed 13min by less than 7s. I will try harder :D

This is at 2.58V, reducing trfc, twtr and twtp at these volts instantly crashes :(

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6263/120032m544qt3.jpg

before

03-15-2007, 01:14 PM

U-14mins

CPU：Core2 Duo E6600 L639F039
CPU Cooling: Intel original Heatsink
M/B：Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP (BIOS 0910) Vcore, Vdroop, Vdimm, Vmch Mods
Memory：SuperTulip PC2-5300 512MBx2
VGA: Jaton 7600GS
HDD: WD IDE 80GB
PSU: Bequiet 600W
OS：Windows XP Pro SP2 (reduced to 150MB of size)

Vcore: 1.31V
Vdimm: 2.55V

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/5808/sub14mgpapg0.png

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/277/sub14mgpbov1.png

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6466/sub14mgpcbl8.png

I didn't try tightening timings more; but it might be possible. :)

andre X_X

03-15-2007, 01:22 PM

OMG, thats very good result before.... and your memory is a beast :D

have you try lowering the trfc to arround 25? it could shave couple seconds.
running spi right after applying and closed the memset could also helps reduce few seconds mainly in the few first loops....

Dekara

03-15-2007, 03:12 PM

Here is my 3 interesting bench, unfortanetly biostar don't like 4:5 divider :( .

http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=19850

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5909/screenshot002bc5.png (http://imageshack.us)

Single channel
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7315/dekaraimiskoja2.png (http://imageshack.us)

Gautam

03-15-2007, 08:22 PM

U-14mins

CPU：Core2 Extreme X6800 L624A610
CPU Cooling: Intel original Heatsink
M/B：Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP (BIOS 0910) Vcore, Vdroop, Vdimm, Vmch Mods
Memory：SuperTulip PC2-5300 512MBx2
VGA: Jaton 7600GS
HDD: WD IDE 80GB
PSU: Bequiet 600W
OS：Windows XP Pro SP2 (reduced to 150MB of size)

Vcore: 1.31V
Vdimm: 2.55V

I didn't try tightening timings more; but it might be possible. :)

Don't make me give up before I even begin. :(

dinos22

03-15-2007, 10:01 PM

Don't make me give up before I even begin. :(

LOL who gives up before they try :p:

man i really would love that hipro maximizer thingie....too bad it's a little expensive for my taste :(

s7e9h3n

03-15-2007, 10:33 PM

LOL who gives up before they try :p:

man i really would love that hipro maximizer thingie....too bad it's a little expensive for my taste :(

It's an absolutely awesome piece of HW....everything looks VERY polished and professional. I received mine yesterday and it seems that it'll save me the trouble of v-modding future boards. The 680i board that I'm using right now may not need the maximizer though...as it currently has no droop in the Vmem whatsoever...in fact, the Vmem actually INCREASES +.001 when the system is loaded :)

Rol-Co

03-16-2007, 05:22 AM

anybody know if the maxi works on commando ? think it should be better..

eva2000

03-16-2007, 05:29 AM

i saw someone use maxi on commando but they had unsoldered that coil... p5b deluxe worked without unsoldering coil on my board but not sure it i needed the coil unsoldered as i got same clocks without the maxi at 2.45v

but maxi did allow me more vdimm higher clocks past 2.45+ but at the limit as vMCH was unmodded... you need higher vMCH volts than 1.65v for higher ram clocks heh

without maxi @580mhz at 2.45v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B_Deluxe/results/G4Storm/X6800_1/team/6400c3/1_2/0804/9x/800/387-580-4448_3-25_510810_1.4125-1.4-1.65-2.45/superpi-32m_single_13m50s532ms_tn.png

with maxi @590mhz at 2.6v - limited by lack of vMCH :(
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B_Deluxe/results/G4Storm/X6800_1/team/6400c3/1_2/0804/9x/800/393-590-4445_4-30_5101011_1.45-1.45-1.65-2.6/superpi-32m_single_13m37s360ms_tn.png

3oh6

03-16-2007, 09:17 AM

i saw someone use maxi on commando but they had unsoldered that coil... p5b deluxe worked without unsoldering coil on my board but not sure it i needed the coil unsoldered as i got same clocks without the maxi at 2.45v
i have experienced the exact same thing, no difference in clocks going from Maxi powered @ 2.45v to board powered VDIMM @ 2.45v (or any other voltage TBH). i was thinking that perhaps unsoldering the coil would help so perhaps i will try that soon. if you do try before me, be sure to report back.

esdee

03-16-2007, 05:35 PM

Sorry Before :)

CPU：Core2 Duo XE6800
CPU Cooling: Hyper6+
M/B：Asus Commando
Memory： Team 2x1024
VGA: asus 8800GTS
HDD: WD IDE 40GB
PSU: tagan 520W
OS：Windows XP Pro SP2 tweaked

Misko

03-16-2007, 05:56 PM

esdee yours tRFC is awesome, can you share cooling type of memory and vdimm?

before

03-17-2007, 03:06 AM

Very time indeed :) 2*1024MB is faster :D

I dream of a memory kit like this one; which model is it?

Johnny Bravo

03-17-2007, 06:31 AM

Well finally got there in the end with a help from a few friends ;)

SUB 12 second run

Who says the Nvidia 680i chipset is slow :D

http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/11-59,969.JPG

Abit IN9 - no vmods and watercooled x6800 - the rest is air cooled. Took some effort but I'm happy with the results

coop

03-17-2007, 10:43 AM

UPDATED!..the scale is moving lower.

esdee

03-17-2007, 01:37 PM

esdee yours tRFC is awesome, can you share cooling type of memory and vdimm?

Very time indeed :) 2*1024MB is faster :D

I dream of a memory kit like this one; which model is it?

thank you guys!

vdimm is 2.6, but i think i can lower it!
cooling type is as always DELTA fan 12cm 190cfm or so, ambient temp close to 23-25*C, the mems are still naked without their heatpipe heatspreaders, they even have their s/n stickers on!
mem type is the 1200 5-5-5 (AKA D9GKX), not using the maxi shown in the pic yet, because i can't desolder the coil with my low power soldering iron so i have to wait till hipro is back from cebit!

the whole rig is set up for testing reasons, to max out certain parts of hardware for my upcoming bench session, this X6800 benched @ 5160 32m spi with my weakest cascade @ -88 @ load (1.91Vcore) my bench cascade is about -104 @ the same load :D

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7991/DSC_6404.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=DSC_6404.jpg)
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7981/DSC_6402.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=DSC_6402.jpg)

s7e9h3n

03-17-2007, 01:43 PM

...this X6800 benched @ 5160 32m spi with my weakest cascade @ -88 @ load (1.91Vcore) my bench cascade is about -104 @ the same load :D

Ahhh..a benching cascade and a 24/7 cascade....good idea! :D

Edit: I think you need more fans :p

esdee

03-17-2007, 02:07 PM

Ahhh..a benching cascade and a 24/7 cascade....good idea! :D

Edit: I think you need more fans :p

:D the 'weak' cascade was made from spare compressors, we bought some new parts and here you go, a cute little cascade, i load tested in that bench session !the bench cascade is the very powerfull ,
can you say 12000 BTU r410 rotory?;)

s7e9h3n

03-17-2007, 02:28 PM

:D the 'weak' cascade was made from spare compressors, we bought some new parts and here you go, a cute little cascade, i load tested in that bench session !the bench cascade is the very powerfull ,
can you say 12000 BTU r410 rotory?;)

Sheesh...12k BTU?....I'd go crazy having to listen to it run :p: I've got a single stager with a 8-10K BTU Rotary and that thing drives me nutz....It's even louder than my autocascade :rolleyes:

esdee

03-17-2007, 03:04 PM

Sheesh...12k BTU?....I'd go crazy having to listen to it run :p: I've got a single stager with a 8-10K BTU Rotary and that thing drives me nutz....It's even louder than my autocascade :rolleyes:

combine that with the second stage that uses a tecu compressor like the one in your auto and the 690CFM papst on the condenser and you have a bench cascade :D, see ? thats a bench cascade :D

s7e9h3n

03-17-2007, 03:08 PM

combine that with the second stage that uses a tecu compressor like the one in your auto and the 690CFM papst on the condenser and you have a bench cascade :D, see ? thats a bench cascade :D

I'm fine with my little 1hp hermetic Tecumseh in my "bench" autocascade :p: I'll be throwing a x6800 under the evap today...we'll see how she handles a load ;)

loc.o

03-17-2007, 05:04 PM

Impressive Esdee. On 965 chipset 620mhz 32M with those timings and vdimm is :eek:

esdee

03-18-2007, 02:21 PM

Impressive Esdee. On 965 chipset 620mhz 32M with those timings and vdimm is :eek:

just testing a bit more, the mem can do 650Mhz 32m stable with the same timmings 2.7Vdimm and 1.7VMCH, too lazy to reboot with USB support and copy the screenshot!

now back on topic :D

Gautam

03-18-2007, 02:25 PM

:eek: What memory is that exactly? Team 6400C3?

esdee

03-18-2007, 02:58 PM

:eek: What memory is that exactly? Team 6400C3?

1200HC5:D

andre X_X

03-18-2007, 09:31 PM

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/6748/spi32m47000dzos6.jpg

dinos22

03-18-2007, 09:52 PM

I'm fine with my little 1hp hermetic Tecumseh in my "bench" autocascade :p: I'll be throwing a x6800 under the evap today...we'll see how she handles a load ;)

:slobber: nice let us know how it goes :toast:

eva2000

03-19-2007, 12:51 AM

this one is an old bench i did on kayl FrozenSS 1/4HP phase change

sub 12min run @4282mhz

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/kaylss/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/0801/10x/667/428-535-4434_1.675-1.3-1.85-2.54/superpi-32m_single_11min56s797ms_tn.png

Gautam

03-24-2007, 11:52 PM

MidnightMadness

03-25-2007, 02:57 AM

C2D E6600 - Abit AB9 QuadGT - 2 x 1GB Crucial 667 10AE

3960MHz - 12'08.609s
FSB 440MHz x 9; RAM 550MHz

http://i82.imagethrust.com/t/797535/pi321208609.jpg (http://i82.imagethrust.com/images/3ltt/view-image/pi-32--12-08-609.html)

3496MHz - 13'32.609s
FSB 437MHz x 8; RAM 546MHz

http://i81.imagethrust.com/t/797536/pi321332609.jpg (http://i81.imagethrust.com/images/3ltu/view-image/pi-32--13-32-609.html)

Vapor

03-25-2007, 07:54 AM

Alright, just to prove to y'alls that I do get what this thread is about, how about I kick off the sub 11m category? :p:

Vapor deserves at least as much credit as me for this--we also relied on tips from before, k|ngp|n and Fredyama...thanks to them all.Dude....you made me sit in the corner of the room while it was running! Then again, we had reason, everytime I'd walk by the monitor, it would crash :lol:

Anyway, here's an easier to read camera shot with as much moire removed as I could....hopefully we can get the real screenshots off the HDD soon :)

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1976/u1132mtimebz3.jpg

Thanks again to all that helped with this :toast:

esdee

03-25-2007, 11:01 AM

Gautam nice time !

let me setup my phase and my 11 multi :D

Gautam

03-25-2007, 11:57 AM

Dude....you made me sit in the corner of the room while it was running! Then again, we had reason, everytime I'd walk by the monitor, it would crash :lol:

Anyway, here's an easier to read camera shot with as much moire removed as I could....hopefully we can get the real screenshots off the HDD soon :)

My apologies Mr. Photoshop. :p: And yes, there certainly was something creepy going on last night...but your contributions to the setup before we hit the "OK" button were very valuable. ;)

Gautam nice time !

let me setup my phase and my 11 multi :D

No fair. :( Who decided that ram like yours could exist?? :slapass:

Seriously it'll be awesome to see what you can pull off with that golden pair. Hope to see it under cascade/LN2 soon, now that'd make quite a bang. :slobber:

Oldscarface

03-25-2007, 05:07 PM

dinos22

03-25-2007, 05:45 PM

NICE RAM MAN :eek:

lovely time too :clap:

Misko

03-25-2007, 06:02 PM

Oldscarface this is really good m8 :toast:

p.s. Can u try max at 3.6ghz 8x450@2:3 or little bit less?

Dekara

03-25-2007, 06:08 PM

Awesome ram clock, :eek: !!!

esdee

03-25-2007, 06:44 PM

No fair. :( Who decided that ram like yours could exist?? :slapass:

Seriously it'll be awesome to see what you can pull off with that golden pair. Hope to see it under cascade/LN2 soon, now that'd make quite a bang. :slobber:

actually it's a golden pair, but nowhere like hand picked, it's actually a borrowed pair (although i feel like buying them :D) from a shop in greece :D

cascade day is tomorrow, lets hope everything runs fine! the chip is benchable 32m @ 52xx but coldbug kicks in really soon with LN2, so this cascade should be @ the sweetspot, wish me luck!

dinos22

03-25-2007, 06:48 PM

Oldscarface this is really good m8 :toast:

p.s. Can u try max at 3.6ghz 8x450@2:3 or little bit less?

that should do sub 13m as well

Gautam

03-25-2007, 09:19 PM

Here is my best score up till now.

Specs :
Asus Commando
Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3969 Mhz (9 x 441 Mhz, 1,53 Volt bios)
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC8000 @ 661.5 5-5-4-4-7 (2,5 Volt bios)
Everything is air cooled (cold air)

Heh, I was just telling kp earlier today that no one has beaten his sub 12m speeds yet, but it seems like that's changed. :p: Very impressive...further shows how important raw bandwidth is for SuperPi performance.

actually it's a golden pair, but nowhere like hand picked, it's actually a borrowed pair (although i feel like buying them :D) from a shop in greece :D

cascade day is tomorrow, lets hope everything runs fine! the chip is benchable 32m @ 52xx but coldbug kicks in really soon with LN2, so this cascade should be @ the sweetspot, wish me luck!

Sounds like a winning combo indeed. Hope it all works like a charm together. :)

alpha0ne

03-26-2007, 12:03 AM

Thats a seriously nice time Oldscarface :clap: :worship:

eva2000

03-26-2007, 02:22 AM

Now with Hipro Maximizer installed on P5B Deluxe again. The same limitations exist though to OCZ PC2-9200 FlexXLC, the memory is optimized for CAS5 (5-5-4-x) performance.

Just checking out what I can do for the Super Pi 32M low clock challenge :)

Just make it under 15 minutes with Q6600 @3190Mhz with memory @591mhz 5-5-4-5 at 2.43v vdimm :D

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B_Deluxe/results/G4Storm/Q6600_Kenstfield/ocz/flexxlc/9200/1_2/0804/9x/888/354-591-5545_4-25_911910_1.375-2.43-1.45-1.65/superpi-32m_single_14min59s812ms_memset_tn.png

Oldscarface

03-26-2007, 10:42 PM

Oldscarface this is really good m8 :toast:

p.s. Can u try max at 3.6ghz 8x450@2:3 or little bit less?

He Missko, thanks.

This week I will try to bench at 3.6ghz 8x450@2:3.
I do not know if the mems can manage 675MHZ @ 32M Superpi.
Perhaps at a higher Vmem.

But this week(end) I will try to get the max. for sub 14 and sub 13.

Misko

03-27-2007, 01:52 AM

He Missko, thanks.

This week I will try to bench at 3.6ghz 8x450@2:3.
I do not know if the mems can manage 675MHZ @ 32M Superpi.
Perhaps at a higher Vmem.

But this week(end) I will try to get the max. for sub 14 and sub 13.

Great I'm waiting to see that run, expecting great scores :toast: (see if u can use 1066 strap also)

Norz

03-27-2007, 02:55 AM

Nowhere to put this pic but here.

Oldscarface:clap: ....you got some magic ram man:D

esdee

03-27-2007, 03:52 PM

lets see some nice things :D
today i just tried to get #1 among HellasOCTeam members,

C2D X6800
TeamXtreme 1200HC5 @ 2.71V
ASUS Commando Vdroop Vcore modded
Seventeam 1000W PSU (<-Godlike)
DDR Maximizer
2 stage r410/r1150 Cascade Cooling (ofcourse by me)

i think i can get sub10min @ 5080-5100, not that much tweaked run...
tomorrow ill try for max, + hit some other low clock challenges :D

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/8880/9585135cn1.jpg

Gautam

03-27-2007, 04:57 PM

Very nice. :) Now try losing a multi. :p:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132933

dinos22

03-27-2007, 05:07 PM

Very nice. :) Now try losing a multi. :p:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132933

it's just faster RAM in that case...... :) mighty nice times from Victor and esdee

before

03-28-2007, 01:11 AM

yea nice run esdee :) not to mention nice chip and nice cascade! :D

ncsa

04-01-2007, 07:49 AM

8x400 PB5-E / GeIL PC2-8500 C5

Oldscarface

04-02-2007, 12:40 PM

Great I'm waiting to see that run, expecting great scores :toast: (see if u can use 1066 strap also)

He Misko,

I do not think my mems can handle 675MHz @ 2,5 volt.
I had tried this last weekend, but I had some serious problems with my system. To realize this the mem voltage must be much higher, but up till now I do not want to give much more than 2,5 Volt.

This week I will try it again. ;)

staxm

04-04-2007, 07:48 PM

Abit QuadGT bios b08 Vmch@1.86v
e6600@1.625v@TT BT & "cold" air +7°C
2x1Gb Cricial Ballistix PC6400 @2.7v
silverstone st56f

11.xxx@4056Mhz

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9295/spi32mquadgt11m59047spn3.th.png (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spi32mquadgt11m59047spn3.png)

13.xxx@3598Mhz@1.5v

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5859/screenshot016uf7.th.png (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot016uf7.png)

ncsa

04-05-2007, 10:21 AM

PB5-E / GeIL PC2-8500 C5 / CPU Stock Cooler

14.xx @ 3190.4 & 13.xx @ 3474.3

dinos22

04-06-2007, 09:31 AM

16.XX category

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got some monster RAM coming in a few weeks + looking for a B2 so that i can give you suckers a run for your money finally :D

killert

04-06-2007, 10:12 AM

15min 37.640 sec
E4300 @ 3353Mhz Ram - 4gig (2x1 OCZ Gold and 2x1 Buffalo Firestix) @ 496Mhz

blossa

04-06-2007, 12:12 PM

CPU: E6600 @ 401*9 (3609 MHz)
RAM: G.Skill 8500 @ 501.2 MHz 4-4-4-4 4:5
TIME: 13m 31.234s

screenshot: http://loppmarknader.se/quadgt/1331_4444_45div.JPG

coop

04-06-2007, 08:19 PM

Updated.....I wrote a rather lengthy post here but was told to refresh and log in again. So I lost everything I wrote. Basically I need to remove the bottom eight entries from the 13.XX and the bottom three from the 11.XX. It should be obvious and need no explaining. Save a screen of your place in the list as I'm wanting to do this Sunday morn. Damn I'm a little torqued.

andre X_X

04-08-2007, 09:12 AM

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coop

04-08-2007, 06:48 PM

Got to try to move up.

3oh6

04-09-2007, 08:39 PM

i finally have had some time to get my 32M on back with the P5B-Dlx but unfortunately my memory doesn't want to play with the big boys at the 600MHz+ range 4-4-4. i might make it do so later and get something decent for the 12m xx.xxx section. for now, just a little sub 15m action:

14m 59.094 @ 3159.9MHz // 592.5MHz 4-4-4-4
click for full size with memory timings...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/3oh6/xsforum/super_pi/14m59_592_4444sm.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/3oh6/xsforum/super_pi/14m59_592_4444.png)

dinos22

04-09-2007, 11:00 PM

wow your memory is very nice what vdimm

3oh6

04-10-2007, 10:55 AM

wow your memory is very nice what vdimm
they are decent but they really don't want to run 600MHz 4-4-4-4 at all. the above run was done with 2.6v.

Gautam

04-10-2007, 11:42 AM

Ever tried increasing tRAS and tRFC?

3oh6

04-10-2007, 07:06 PM

Ever tried increasing tRAS and tRFC?
yeah, you can see the full results thread from this kit in my signature. dual 32M at 600MHz was good to go at 4-4-4-8-5-35-10-10-10-10 with 2.6v, but that just isn't fast enough to keep up with those freak sticks of esdee :)

Gautam

04-10-2007, 07:27 PM

You're telling me. :-/ Made it up to 4-4-4-8 with tRFC 25 myself...actually don't believe I've ever tried tRAS 4 for 32M. Is the difference significant?

dinos22

04-10-2007, 07:48 PM

they are decent but they really don't want to run 600MHz 4-4-4-4 at all. the above run was done with 2.6v.

really

Try 4-4-4-12 sometimes it gives you another 4-5MHz out of the RAM

you try more vdimm

3oh6

04-10-2007, 09:18 PM

you try more vdimm
thats the key...i need to stop being a sandra and put the boots to these sticks. i like to stop at that 2.6v mark but i guess i will go north of that soon.

on the topic of the 32M challenge, Coop, you really have to start linking the posts to the times in the list. that way it will be easy to see exactly how a time was achieved...like in the sub 4GHz thread. just an idea, and if you want a hand, i can scower through the existing times with a list of links for ya.

dinos22

04-10-2007, 09:44 PM

on the topic of the 32M challenge, Coop, you really have to start linking the posts to the times in the list. that way it will be easy to see exactly how a time was achieved...like in the sub 4GHz thread. just an idea, and if you want a hand, i can scower through the existing times with a list of links for ya.

good idea :toast:

funkflix

04-10-2007, 09:50 PM

13.xx

http://666kb.com/i/anbf534wcyjf3dcom.jpg

Damn B1 CPU.. :(

coop

04-10-2007, 10:00 PM

"on the topic of the 32M challenge, Coop, you really have to start linking the posts to the times in the list. that way it will be easy to see exactly how a time was achieved...like in the sub 4GHz thread. just an idea, and if you want a hand, i can scower through the existing times with a list of links for ya."
I know. I spoke to that in my last post..the one that got lost due to having to re-login. That thread is real nice. I will see what I need to do and get started. Once I get going it shouldn't be a big deal. The times have improved alot. I thought about adding something besides speed and time to the list. Any suggestions?
And 3oh6, what a good run on the 14.XX.

dinos22

04-10-2007, 10:01 PM

13.xx

http://666kb.com/i/anbf534wcyjf3dcom.jpg

Damn B1 CPU.. :(

yeah at 3.6GHz B1 ain't moving much from this sort of time for me either :(

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3336/36ghz600mhz544832m13m38eh7.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36ghz600mhz544832m13m38eh7.jpg)

3oh6

04-11-2007, 04:51 PM

I thought about adding something besides speed and time to the list. Any suggestions?
And 3oh6, what a good run on the 14.XX.
thanks mate...and thanks for keeping this thread up this whole time. **edit** just saw that you already linked most of the times...damn nice, thanks **end edit**

as for additions to the listings...perhaps memory frequency and the basic timings so we can see in one screen what makes the times so damn fast.

dinos22

04-11-2007, 05:02 PM

yeah at 3.6GHz B1 ain't moving much from this sort of time for me either :(

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3336/36ghz600mhz544832m13m38eh7.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36ghz600mhz544832m13m38eh7.jpg)

got a B2 boys so will be able to improve times (fingers crossed the Corsair PC10000 kits arrives soon too :D)

little improvement here

still have some tweaking to do

also have some nice 2GB kit coming

no wazza in this run and subtimings need trimming :)

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9089/36ghz600mhzram544432msuay0.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36ghz600mhzram544432msuay0.jpg)

coop

04-11-2007, 08:11 PM

Thanks 3oh6. I was thinking mem freq. also and date it was done. Some by bachus were done a long time ago and are still up towards the top. I'll work on it some more. There is ample room.
@dinos, I got a chip too. After several recently I got a 6700, a 627B, with a vid of 1.2375v. :D (thats what my face was doing when I booted up the first time)
I've had little time so far but I've been using 1.393v and primed for 50 min last night @3700. Probably won't make a big difference on my times but will be able to use alot less vcore.

dinos22

04-11-2007, 09:26 PM

alpha0ne

04-11-2007, 09:44 PM

The magic 627B :rocker: :slobber: :eleph:

coop

04-11-2007, 10:27 PM

I got most of the Intel done(linked). If someone sees a mistake or can provide a link to one of the unfinished ones, pm me.

dinos22

04-11-2007, 10:34 PM

I got most of the Intel done(linked). If someone sees a mistake or can provide a link to one of the unfinished ones, pm me.

nice man

my 16.X time has a mistake there....you have an extra dot in there lol

over@locker886

04-12-2007, 12:51 AM

first post here:)

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dinos22

04-12-2007, 02:31 AM

first post here:)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/9431/32m36002wy8

hey dude the idea is to get the lowest CPU MHz and reach JUST under a full minute mark

so if you raise your CPU/RAM clocks a little you will shave off the 14 seconds there to get into 12.XX category....the lower the CPU MHz the better :toast:

nice tweaking there man :)

dinos22

04-12-2007, 06:56 AM

i know it's a little OT but i'm getting closer and closer :banana:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8871/36ghz600mhzram544432msubl5.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36ghz600mhzram544432msubl5.jpg)

dinos22

04-12-2007, 07:43 AM

bugger

got to give it another shot tomorrow :slapass:

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8931/3654mhz609mhzram544432mru4.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3654mhz609mhzram544432mru4.jpg)

been using the swiftech kit :) works well i think

HARD MOUNT >>> YEAH BABY :D
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