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eva2000
08-30-2006, 06:39 AM
tRD loosened from 6 to 7 at same clocks can slow 32M times by 4-10 seconds depending on cpu and mem clocks from the little testing i done... i still can't even get tRD = 5 to run stably though i think you need >2.4v vdimm and/or Micron D9 or memory that runs tighter latencies...

Gautam
08-30-2006, 06:53 AM
Hehe, try running a 1:2 divider, I was dumb not to take a full CPU-Z shot of this, but take my word for it, this was at 538MHz...

http://mysite.verizon.net/gautamb/b.JPG

Now I'm messing with 2:3 because of that time you just put up, 5 = instant freeze. tRD is somehow intrinsically tied to the divider. Seems like you can run it at 5 1:2, 6 2:3 but generally only 7 4:5.

Aren't your mems D9GMH?

eva2000
08-30-2006, 07:05 AM
yeah mine are D9GMH.. but they aren't the same

interesting but doesn't explain your 1:1 tRD = 5 i think it might be memory module related or P5W DH bios ??? or vdimm used heh

what vdimm did you use for 400mhz 1:1 tRD = 5 with 3-3-3-8 ?

Gautam
08-30-2006, 07:24 AM
You're right I guess it doesn't explain why I can do 5 at 1:1.

Always 2.4v, BIOS 701, Team Group PC2 5300. Btw I can't get them to 32M even at 533MHz 2:3. :-/ So they aren't anything special.

It seems pretty clear to me though that I'm loosing speed each time I go down a divider. 1:2 seems to be the easiest by far. Some of this stuff has got to do with the SPD tables. I can't do 4:5 no matter what past 480, tried tRFC as high as 45 and tRD 7. :S But you have no problem even with low tRFC.

eva2000
08-30-2006, 07:48 AM
sounds like your memory is binned for tight timings hence tRD = 5 mine are higher clocks at looser timings i.e. i'm at 540-542mhz 4-4-4-8 at 2.4v and 552mhz 5-5-5-5 at 2.4v right now hehe

Gautam
08-30-2006, 07:54 AM
I gain 0 MHz going from 4-4-4 to 5-5-5. :shrug: I think its more than binning though...there are probably internal parameters in the SPD tables that we can't control at play here.

eva2000
08-30-2006, 08:19 AM
yeah probable

How's this for 2x1GB Gskill PC6400PHU2 HZ Micron D9GMH 0629 batch

2:3

10x360fsb 2:3 540mhz 4-4-4-8 at 2.4v = PC2-8640

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/SwiftechG4/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/0801/10x/800/360-540-44412-4_1.45-1.2-1.65-2.4_std/memset/superpi-32m_single_13min41s671ms.png

loosen memory timings and managed to pull off 10x368fsb 2:3 552mhz 5-5-5-5 at 2.4v = PC2-8832 memory :D

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/SwiftechG4/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/0801/10x/800/368-552-5555-4_1.5-1.2-1.65-2.4_std/superpi-32m_single_13min44s437ms_memset.png (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/SwiftechG4/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/0801/10x/800/368-552-5555-4_1.5-1.2-1.65-2.4_std/superpi-32m_single_13min44s437ms.png)

VictorWang
08-30-2006, 08:32 AM
this one:
P5WDH-Deluxe 1101
Team DDR2_1000 1G*2 Victor ED
Intel Stock Cooler
zippy psl-6701p
ambient=26c

Conroe E6700es B2 stepping @ 3734mhz
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1156690515.jpg

eva2000
09-01-2006, 01:03 AM
woah crazy 560mhz 4-4-3-1 timings!

dinos22
09-01-2006, 01:07 AM
eva your and my ram can do the same but we just need more vdimm

incidentaly what vdimm was that at :)

eva2000
09-01-2006, 01:16 AM
yeah i know more vdimm is needed hehe

SLi_dog
09-05-2006, 01:04 AM
How's this one?

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n13/SLi_dog/SuperPi_32M-13m23.png

IluvIntel
09-05-2006, 04:02 PM
SLi Dog, does that count as low clock speed @ 3788Mhz for conroe in this thread ?

SLi_dog
09-05-2006, 07:55 PM
SLi Dog, does that count as low clock speed @ 3788Mhz for conroe in this thread ?Probably not. My bad :slapass: .
It's on the stock Intel HSF though, that's low to me :D .

Edit: Hey, RodneyJM :)

IluvIntel
09-06-2006, 01:24 AM
Probably not. My bad :slapass: .
It's on the stock Intel HSF though, that's low to me :D .

Edit: Hey, RodneyJM :)

Yoohhh ! whats hapen'in my man ! :D
Nice to see a fellow i4memorian on this wonderful forum.. :toast:

My turn.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5511/e66003445mhzddr21132246single32mbsuperpi15runhi2.j pg

dinos22
09-06-2006, 01:31 AM
i think you guys are both missing the point

the point is to run xxM 5xS runs at lowest possible MHz

longsiew
09-06-2006, 02:06 AM
Am I eligible???

around 19min, tho=(

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6821/dfi975420mhzpi32milkb1.jpg

dinos22
09-06-2006, 02:16 AM
you should be doing a sub19 minute times NOT just over 19m times

also it's pretty slow

you should be able to do it around 2550MHz with an Allendale

i did this run while testing ram recently to give you an idea
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6408/543mhz44412245vdimm32msuperpido9.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=543mhz44412245vdimm32msuperpido9.jpg)

eva2000
09-09-2006, 12:44 PM
Lowest clocked cpu on hwbot top 10 and non-X6800 cpu too

E6700 QPGA B1 @4416Mhz at 1.7 bios set = 1.648-1.656v vcore
2x1GB Gskill PC6400PHU2 2GBHZ Micron D9GMH @552Mhz 4-4-4-4 at 2.51v (max pencil modded vdimm).

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/kaylss/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/1101/10x/667/441-552-4444_1.7-1.3-1.85-2.54/cpuz_validated.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/kaylss/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/1101/10x/667/441-552-4444_1.7-1.3-1.85-2.54/superpi-32m_single_11min34s422ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/kaylss/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/1101/10x/667/441-552-4444_1.7-1.3-1.85-2.54/rank6_11min34s422ms.png

Gautam
09-09-2006, 01:31 PM
It's a pleasure to see you on subzero cooling. :woot:

bachus_anonym
09-09-2006, 08:19 PM
Since some of you guys are still missing the point of this thread, here's a valid submission :D :banana:

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 402x9=3618Mhz, Corsair 6400C3 @ DDR2-1206 8-4-4-4.0 --> 12:59.922 (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/6400C3/402x9_DDR2-1206_32M_faster.png)
vdimm: 2.45v (BIOS) --> 2.47v LOAD (DMM)
vcore: 1.48v (BIOS) --> 1.46v LOAD (DMM)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, not yet modded at all
Still on Intel stock cooler

I just barely made it into 12:xx category, which IS the goal to achieve at the LOWEST possible CPU clock.

dinos22
09-09-2006, 08:31 PM
Since some of you guys are still missing the point of this thread, here's a valid submission :D :banana:

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 402x9=3618Mhz, Corsair 6400C3 @ DDR2-1206 8-4-4-4.0 --> 12:59.922 (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/6400C3/402x9_DDR2-1206_32M_faster.png)
vdimm: 2.45v (BIOS) --> 2.47v LOAD (DMM)
vcore: 1.48v (BIOS) --> 1.46v LOAD (DMM)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, not yet modded at all
Still on Intel stock cooler

I just barely made it into 12:xx category, which IS the goal to achieve at the LOWEST possible CPU clock.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: i told you guys 3.6GHz sub-13 is doable :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

shame coop isn't updating any more >>> that's a killer time man

eva2000
09-09-2006, 10:56 PM
It's a pleasure to see you on subzero cooling. :woot:thanks already smashed that time at same exact clocks and then smashed it a few more times.. :D

bachus, crazy mem clocks there :D

sierra_bound
09-09-2006, 11:21 PM
This is my contribution:

P5B Deluxe + E6400

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3953/e640032m3302ay4.jpg

And yes, the CPU will run much higher.:D

bachus_anonym
09-10-2006, 09:00 AM
i told you guys 3.6GHz sub-13 is doable

shame coop isn't updating any more >>> that's a killer time manI think that's my "balls to the wall" effort. I tried few more times and I just can't make it below 13m at 3.6GHz. I think, that might be as good as it gets :)
bachus, crazy mem clocks there :DFreakish set, I know :lol: It maxes out 16M @ 608-610 8-4-4-4.0, 2.45v (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/6400C3/405x9_DDR2-1216_16M.png)

@sierra_bound,

Glad you joined us here, man! That's a nice one for 2MB... Show us what you got with E6600! :D
:toast:

eva2000
09-11-2006, 10:27 AM
bachus that mem clock is really doing my head in hehe and at such low vdimm!

here's my latest
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/kaylss/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/1101/10x/800/360-540-4434_1.5-1.3-1.85-2.575/superpi-32m_single_13min39s750ms_tn.png (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/kaylss/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/1101/10x/800/360-540-4434_1.5-1.3-1.85-2.575/superpi-32m_single_13min39s750ms.png)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/kaylss/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/1101/10x/800/366-550-4434_1.5-1.3-1.85-2.575/superpi-32m_single_13min25s172ms_tn.png (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6700_2/kaylss/gskill/pc6400phu2/19_20/1101/10x/800/366-550-4434_1.5-1.3-1.85-2.575/superpi-32m_single_13min25s172ms.png)

coop
09-11-2006, 09:28 PM
Updated.. notify me about corrections. Nice work everyone and thanks for patience.

dinos22
09-11-2006, 09:39 PM
Updated.. notify me about corrections. Nice work everyone and thanks for patience.
good to see dude

:toast: :toast:

SLi_dog
09-16-2006, 04:24 AM
This is an old run from a face off with eva2000 in which he ended up wiping the floor with me :). I was using a basically untweaked OS so I'm sure I could go faster now ;)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n13/SLi_dog/SuperPi32M11m35.png

alpha0ne
09-16-2006, 07:02 AM
13m 54.297s @ below 3.6GHz :)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/alpha0ne/32M3596.jpg

afireinside
09-16-2006, 07:27 AM
Man I've been trying for days to get into 13:5x with 400*9 1:1 but I just can't do it :( Even with much more aggressive mem times than OPB and bachus and now 2gb ram. Only got a 6 sec boost from that. Need to Vdimm mod my board.

camouflage
09-18-2006, 01:30 PM
:D Here's another one:

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/4303/sp32m36ghzss3.jpg

E6600-Corsair XMS2 8500 2x1GB-P5WDG2-WS PRO-WC setup

:toast:

TaPaKaH
09-22-2006, 08:57 AM
here are some mine 32M results

1st was made while OCing E6400 under DI @ 4340MHz : 12:05.672s
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/89334.png
2nd is testing X6800ES under DI @ 4601MHz : 11:24.531s
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/90247.png

funkflix
09-25-2006, 07:06 AM
Hey!

What is a good 32M time for a E6400 with 3600MHz? I'm at 15m 19s atm. :)

corvus_corax
10-02-2006, 11:38 PM
13m 26.047s @ 3.6GHz
Just a slightly tweaked system and using sabinu's tweak (pseudo-minimize tweak, that explains SPi right align :p: Thanks man :thumbsup: ).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/OCcorvus_corax/SuperPI/p5b36run4a513m26047s.png

Edit: A better shot ;)

Well, here is before edit :p:
13m 29.078s (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/OCcorvus_corax/SuperPI/p5b36run4a513m29078s.png) Monitor (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/OCcorvus_corax/SuperPI/DSC07790.jpg)

alpha0ne
10-03-2006, 12:56 AM
13m 29.078s @ 3.6GHz[/url]
Just a slightly tweaked system and using sabinu's tweak (pseudo-minimize tweak, that explains SPi right align :p: Thanks man :thumbsup: ).

Brilliant time :clap: :toast:

Care to explain these pseudo-minimize tweak, that explains SPi right align ??? :eek:

corvus_corax
10-03-2006, 11:07 AM
Brilliant time :clap: :toast:

Care to explain these pseudo-minimize tweak, that explains SPi right align ??? :eek:
Thanks alpha0ne :)
About pseudo-minimize, here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49345&page=3) sabinus explains the tweak:

It's been a while since last tweaks were posted here.
Now I want to tell about one tweak that did help. It doesn't compare to copy-waza in terms of time gain but it gave me around ~0.1" for 1 MB SuperPI runs. Because of the nature of this tweak I think it is more helpful to 1 MB / 2MB runs then for 32 MB runs.
I call this tweak: pseudo-minimize because it resembles to minimize but it's not the same. It goes like this:

When all other tweaks are done (including realtime priority and copy-waza) and you are ready to launch SuperPI 1MB, then drag the bottom-right corner of the SuperPI window towards the upper-left corner untill the only thing left visible remains the small title bar of the window.

Then use the keyboard to launch SuperPI with the combination ALT+C then select the desired run (1MB, 2MB etc) with either the keyboard or mouse, then hit Enter (or click OK).

Finally, when the "PI calculation done!" message appears you should put the mouse pointer over the TaskBar, click the right button and select "Tile Windows Vertically" to see the whole SuperPI window and do the screeny fest ;)

Useful for 32M too :)

dinos22
10-03-2006, 03:36 PM
you are still missing the point people

i don't know how many times it needs to be repeated..............the idea is to get into the sub 13m/14m/15m etc times with lowest possible CPU MHz

so when you submit your time for sub 13m run the idea is to get to score around 12m 55-59.99s times with lowest possible CPU MHz.......for corvus that would mean raising the CPU MHz to lower the times from 13m 29s to JUST UNDER 13m

funkflix
10-03-2006, 04:25 PM
Sorry for missing the topic again, but maybe anyone of u guys can tell me, why my 32M times that bad?!

I tried Win2k3/WinXP with realtime and without and different ramclocks, both on clean windows. Normally i should go easy into the 13min imho, even without tweaked windows, but i just can get around 14min..

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7992/32langsamez7.jpg

Vcore 1,53V
Vdimm 2,4V

Any ideas? :toast:

alpha0ne
10-03-2006, 09:04 PM
you are still missing the point people

i don't know how many times it needs to be repeated..............the idea is to get into the sub 13m/14m/15m etc times with lowest possible CPU MHz

so when you submit your time for sub 13m run the idea is to get to score around 12m 55-59.99s times with lowest possible CPU MHz.......for corvus that would mean raising the CPU MHz to lower the times from 13m 29s to JUST UNDER 13m


Hehehe thanks for bringing that up again dinos, ppl were posting +4GHz runs :slapass: :rolleyes:

corvus_corax
10-03-2006, 09:53 PM
@dinos: OK, i see, thanks for clarify. I saw just the last posts, so, i post my time :D. I'm gonna work in sub-13 ;) .

Edit: i'm eating the words with this new keyboard LOL

alpha0ne
10-03-2006, 10:03 PM
@dinos: OK, i see, thanks for clarify. I saw just the last posts, so, i post my time :D. I gonna work on sub-13 ;) .

Hehe good luck, sub 13 @ under 3.60GHz will be very hard :fact: :)

corvus_corax
10-03-2006, 10:10 PM
Indeed alpha0ne
I'll need a higher freq :p: or to mod my P5B for vdimm higher and maybe running 2:3 (DDR2 1200MHz 4-4-4) cuz with 2.45V i can't get that.

alpha0ne
10-03-2006, 10:32 PM
Yes the only way would be using 2:3 with very tight timings and every tweak in the book :D ;)

dinos22
10-04-2006, 12:02 AM
Sorry for missing the topic again, but maybe anyone of u guys can tell me, why my 32M times that bad?!

I tried Win2k3/WinXP with realtime and without and different ramclocks, both on clean windows. Normally i should go easy into the 13min imho, even without tweaked windows, but i just can get around 14min..

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7992/32langsamez7

Vcore 1,53V
Vdimm 2,4V

Any ideas? :toast:maybe create a new thread

just from initial things i'd say it's the 1333 that's hurting you badly there

funkflix
10-04-2006, 04:14 AM
maybe create a new thread

just from initial things i'd say it's the 1333 that's hurting you badly there

I'm not the guy who is creating new threads all the time. It's even more realistic to get fast and good help into here. ;)

Anyway, thx or ur answer, but look at bachus results a few pages before, he had 12min 59s with 3600MHz!? U think the strap is that important for 32M, that i can not even hit this time with + 4000MHz? :(

Viss
10-04-2006, 04:31 AM
U think the strap is that important for 32M, that i can not even hit this time with + 4000MHz? :(

This is what i get at 3800 untweaked OS. Booted at 400 and CG up to 423. Same board/bios your using. Stil very slow though compared to the 13 min at 3.6 :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/32M400-422CG.jpg

funkflix
10-04-2006, 04:37 AM
This is what i get at 3800 untweaked OS. Booted at 400 and CG up to 423. Same board/bios your using. Stil very slow though compared to the 13 min at 3.6 :D


Thx for doing this run man! I will test it with the same settings u used.. we will see. :)

dinos22
10-04-2006, 06:54 AM
I'm not the guy who is creating new threads all the time. It's even more realistic to get fast and good help into here. ;)

Anyway, thx or ur answer, but look at bachus results a few pages before, he had 12min 59s with 3600MHz!? U think the strap is that important for 32M, that i can not even hit this time with + 4000MHz? :(
BA was on the FAST strap 1066 ;)

funkflix
10-04-2006, 07:01 AM
I'm getting 15min 07sec if i boot with 399MHz and go to 423MHz into win, as loc.o did.. Should be the 1066 Strap too? I think it is my B5 or the 2x512MB holding me back, dunno..

alpha0ne
10-04-2006, 09:13 AM
Since some of you guys are still missing the point of this thread, here's a valid submission :D :banana:

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 402x9=3618Mhz, Corsair 6400C3 @ DDR2-1206 8-4-4-4.0 --> 12:59.922 (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/6400C3/402x9_DDR2-1206_32M_faster.png)
vdimm: 2.45v (BIOS) --> 2.47v LOAD (DMM)
vcore: 1.48v (BIOS) --> 1.46v LOAD (DMM)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, not yet modded at all
Still on Intel stock cooler

I just barely made it into 12:xx category, which IS the goal to achieve at the LOWEST possible CPU clock.

But its still above 3.60GHz :slapass:

funkflix
10-14-2006, 12:02 PM
Finally i fixed my 32M problems, and luckily it fits into the sub 13m category! :D

http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/conroe/32M_boot_with_400mhz_4050mhz.jpg

No tweaks and 24/7-windows, just realtime.

sierra_bound
10-14-2006, 12:16 PM
Tweaking does make a difference.;)

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5303/32m4026uw3.jpg

funkflix
10-14-2006, 12:30 PM
Higher memclocks + B2 and which tweak else do u used? This copy-big-file-tweak? :D

Don't think this new 2x512 GeILs (no D9, as i expected :() i use can do 505MHz, so i will lose the advantage of 2GB, and thats not good.. ;)

sierra_bound
10-14-2006, 12:36 PM
Yes, copy-big-file-tweak and others. Some people think the P5B Dlx is slow. If you keep FSB in the 400+ range and use 4:5, it's not slow at all.;)

funkflix
10-14-2006, 12:41 PM
If you keep FSB in the 400+ range and use 4:5, it's not slow at all.;)

Hard one with an E6600! ;)

Anyway, i booted with 400MHz and put up the FSB to 450MHz with SetFSB, so it should be the same effect, as if u stay around 400MHz. With this way i got an error first time, with just 1,45V on the NB, needed 1,55V then. When i boot up with 423MHz i can go to 500MHz easy on 1,45V.

bachus_anonym
10-14-2006, 01:39 PM
But its still above 3.60GHz :slapass:Well, it's not the point of this Challenge, if you read carefully. It's the certain time window you need to fit in (9:5x, 10:5x, 11:5x, 12:5x, etc) at the lowest possible CPU clock. not the other way around ;)
Hard one with an E6600! ;)Yep, things are a bit more difficult with E6600 as in some cases x9 multi is just a tad too low to fully take advantage of tight strap. Even E6700 is a lot better to work with...
A propos, this is pretty much all I can do for "below 12m" category. With E6700/P5B Deluxe, this can could be probably beaten @ 410x10 4:5, though...

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 465x9=4182Mhz, Corsair 6400C3 @ DDR2-930 4-4-4-4.0 --> 11:58.344 (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/402xtreme/465x9_DDR2-930_32M_power_faster.png)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, vcore/vdimm/vmch-modded; CPU cooled w/ "402XTREME" by Chilly1
vcore: 1.68v (DMM)
vdimm: 2.18v (DMM)
vmch: 1.75v (DMM)

Naturally, this result is achieved by booting @ 400x9 and raising FSB to 465MHz using ClockGen...

EDIT: This is just to compare with sierra's and funkflix's results and to show what can be done on P5B Deluxe. Below result is no good for this Challenge...

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 432x9=3887Mhz, Corsair 6400C3 @ DDR2-1080 5-4-4-5.0 --> 12:36.922 (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/402xtreme/432x9_DDR2-1080_5445_32M_0711_power.png)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, vcore/vdimm/vmch-modded; CPU cooled w/ "402XTREME" by Chilly1
vcore: 1.72v (DMM)
vdimm: 2.46v (DMM)
vmch: 1.56v (DMM)

Also, system booted @ 400x9 4:5 and then FSB raised to 432 using ClockGen. Ratio 4:5 and "tight strap" were very hard for me to harness at the same time, though. Only going CAS5 allowed me to reach above 410MHz. That 432MHz is all I could do for 32M. Straight boot @ 4:5 was good for 32M all the way up to 450MHz (DDR2-1125) (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/402xtreme/450x9_DDR2-1118_5445_32M_0711_faster.png)...

Revv23
10-15-2006, 08:59 PM
Well, it's not the point of this Challenge, if you read carefully. It's the certain time window you need to fit in (9:5x, 10:5x, 11:5x, 12:5x, etc) at the lowest possible CPU clock. not the other way around ;)Yep, things are a bit more difficult with E6600 as in some cases x9 multi is just a tad too low to fully take advantage of tight strap. Even E6700 is a lot better to work with...
A propos, this is pretty much all I can do for "below 12m" category. With E6700/P5B Deluxe, this can could be probably beaten @ 410x10 4:5, though...

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 465x9=4182Mhz, Corsair 6400C3 @ DDR2-930 4-4-4-4.0 --> 11:58.344 (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/402xtreme/465x9_DDR2-930_32M_power_faster.png)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, vcore/vdimm/vmch-modded; CPU cooled w/ "402XTREME" by Chilly1
vcore: 1.68v (DMM)
vdimm: 2.18v (DMM)
vmch: 1.75v (DMM)

Naturally, this result is achieved by booting @ 400x9 and raising FSB to 465MHz using ClockGen...

EDIT: This is just to compare with sierra's and funkflix's results and to show what can be done on P5B Deluxe. Below result is no good for this Challenge...

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 432x9=3887Mhz, Corsair 6400C3 @ DDR2-1080 5-4-4-5.0 --> 12:36.922 (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/402xtreme/432x9_DDR2-1080_5445_32M_0711_power.png)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, vcore/vdimm/vmch-modded; CPU cooled w/ "402XTREME" by Chilly1
vcore: 1.72v (DMM)
vdimm: 2.46v (DMM)
vmch: 1.56v (DMM)

Also, system booted @ 400x9 4:5 and then FSB raised to 432 using ClockGen. Ratio 4:5 and "tight strap" were very hard for me to harness at the same time, though. Only going CAS5 allowed me to reach above 410MHz. That 432MHz is all I could do for 32M. Straight boot @ 4:5 was good for 32M all the way up to 450MHz (DDR2-1125) (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/402xtreme/450x9_DDR2-1118_5445_32M_0711_faster.png)...

Hey bachus, nice work, i love watching you do 32m runs as your scores are always so much better then mine at similar clocks (i dont know much about super pi lol)

Anyways, 4:5 clocking on the 1066 strap is helped a ton by raising up the vmch. I too couldnt pass 410 with clockgen but going up to 1.8v vmch got me alot higher, also a tras from 6-8 may let you keep the cas at 4 for the runs.

Good luck!

IluvIntel
10-28-2006, 02:08 AM
If I boot at 8 x 465 with E6600 on P5B deluxe, what bootstrap is this booting with ? and I was under the impression this thread is about low clock speed 32mb times. Whats all this discussion about over 4Ghz clock speed times ? or is 4Ghz considered low clock speed ? ? ?

Bootup05
10-28-2006, 02:32 AM
What is this all about:confused:

I'd like to have a go but im not sure what were doing:p:

Do you have to tweak whatever you can to get the closest to 24mins at the lowest clocks you can?

funkflix
10-28-2006, 05:28 AM
Try to get a time like xx min 59.xx sec and this with the lowest clocks possible. Doesn't matter which clocks u use, only the time is important. Look at the results here and try to beat it, or going for an equal result.

dinos22
10-28-2006, 07:14 AM
If I boot at 8 x 465 with E6600 on P5B deluxe, what bootstrap is this booting with ? and I was under the impression this thread is about low clock speed 32mb times. Whats all this discussion about over 4Ghz clock speed times ? or is 4Ghz considered low clock speed ? ? ?
straight boot at 465 = 1333 strap = BAD for Pi

alpha0ne
10-28-2006, 08:53 AM
straight boot at 465 = 1333 strap = BAD for Pi

Better with sauce on :fact: :D

dinos22
10-28-2006, 09:02 AM
you can always do a vMCH mod

rip off the stock cooler and slap something decent

and boot at sub 400MHz and clockgen up with monster vmch and 1067 stap.......doable past 500MHz :D and killer PI times :D

3oh6
10-28-2006, 09:45 AM
not sure if the first post is being updated anymore but i had some free time this morning so i decided to have a go with the E6300.

boot @ 399...clockgen up to 462FSB to keep that strap where it belongs. 14.XXX is about the lowest time block i can shoot for with the P5B-Dlx and 7X multi of an E6300. i spent a good couple hours at it and this is the best i could pull:

14m 58.281s @ 3238MHz
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/3oh6/xsforum/lowclock32m-1.gif

coop
10-28-2006, 10:50 AM
Yes, it is being updated. Very good time and thanks for your contribution 3oh6. Helluva a good run bachus - as usual. That should stand for some time. I'm working on my board and, if it still boots up, will try to make some contributions as well.

dinos22
10-28-2006, 04:27 PM
not sure if the first post is being updated anymore but i had some free time this morning so i decided to have a go with the E6300.

boot @ 399...clockgen up to 462FSB to keep that strap where it belongs. 14.XXX is about the lowest time block i can shoot for with the P5B-Dlx and 7X multi of an E6300. i spent a good couple hours at it and this is the best i could pull:

14m 58.281s @ 3238MHz
hotobucket.com/albums/v220/3oh6/xsforum/lowclock32m-1.gif
can you share with us the cooling method on MCH including vMCH used and whether you modded it :toast:

3oh6
10-28-2006, 05:11 PM
Yes, it is being updated. Very good time and thanks for your contribution 3oh6.
excellent and thanx. i will try to get to some AMD times later...i'm too busy playing with my new toy :)


can you share with us the cooling method on MCH including vMCH used and whether you modded it :toast:
can do dinos...this one is un-modded so vMCH is the BIOS max of 1.65v. i have pulled the stock heatpipe setup and slapped a Zalman ZM-NB47J on there that i had laying around. i have a 120mm leaning up against the ultra-120 blowing over the DIMMs and the northbridge.

i can CG up to about 470 and bench pretty much anything there but over that and even 1M gets hit or miss. this is my second P5B-Dlx and the first one would crap out around 460ish (CGing from 399 of course) with the same cooling. this one seems to be better so i think i will be keeping it and the mods should come soon, just waiting on some trimmer pots for the droop and vCORE. with a Maximizer in hand, i won't have to worry about the vDIMM :D

dinos22
10-28-2006, 07:17 PM
damn you 3oh6 and your maximizer :p: :D

nice motherboard man

searches for that zalman somewhere heheheheh

3oh6
10-28-2006, 07:54 PM
damn you 3oh6 and your maximizer :p: :D

nice motherboard man

searches for that zalman somewhere heheheheh
hehehe, check out my thread i started in Xtreme Bandwidth...i haven't hooked it up to the board yet but i can't stop playing with it. i feel like a 6 year old with a new fire truck on christmas morning...i think the term is "shyt eating grin" :D

that zalman should be had pretty much anywhere...its bright blue, passive, and just fits under the fins of an Ultra-120 on a P5B-Dlx...and it only cost me $11CDN from my local shop. apparently its pretty decent or i just got lucky with this motherboard. can't wait to see what it will do with a small dry ice pot and the vMCH modded...500FSB/1066 strap here i come ;)

dinos22
10-28-2006, 09:15 PM
hehehe, check out my thread i started in Xtreme Bandwidth...i haven't hooked it up to the board yet but i can't stop playing with it. i feel like a 6 year old with a new fire truck on christmas morning...i think the term is "shyt eating grin" :D

that zalman should be had pretty much anywhere...its bright blue, passive, and just fits under the fins of an Ultra-120 on a P5B-Dlx...and it only cost me $11CDN from my local shop. apparently its pretty decent or i just got lucky with this motherboard. can't wait to see what it will do with a small dry ice pot and the vMCH modded...500FSB/1066 strap here i come ;)
hahahah :banana::banana::banana::banana: that was funny

yeah i know those Zalmans did a world of good for me in early 2005 with Asus A8N Deluxe replacement for that POS whinny little fan heheheh..........

farksy
10-29-2006, 09:31 PM
I know this is abit late, and abit mediocre ... but .. here's mine. Sub 3Ghz Opty under 24min :D

2992......farksy.................23.58.671

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5988/23m58671s32millc0.th.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23m58671s32millc0.jpg)

Way off the rest ... perhaps my OS isnt' right ? [on the Xs stripped down one] and also because this is a 10Gb partition of my 80GB Hdd. Should get those benching harddisks so as to not wreck my files.

eva2000
11-07-2006, 04:13 AM
just under 15min @3320Mhz with Intel D975XBX Bad axe rev304

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975x/975xbx_results/E6700/HC200EX/gskill/pc6400phu2/17_18/1441/1067fsb/10x/800/332-498-4431_1.394-1.805-1.395-2.39/superpi-32m_single_14m59s984ms_tn.png (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975x/975xbx_results/E6700/HC200EX/gskill/pc6400phu2/17_18/1441/1067fsb/10x/800/332-498-4431_1.394-1.805-1.395-2.39/superpi-32m_single_14m59s984ms.png)

CaNNibaL
11-07-2006, 07:46 AM
Here is my contribute ^^

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/6007/superpi32mb3520yo9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

CaNNibaL
11-07-2006, 12:01 PM
New Update : p

Lower Clock.. Daily Use Clock


http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5913/spi32hk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

coop
11-07-2006, 12:28 PM
updated...nice work farksy and eva2000. cannibal, what is going on with cpu-z?...safemode? Can you refine abit to get like 16min and say 50 something seconds?

CaNNibaL
11-07-2006, 12:47 PM
hey coop safe mode cause no time to tweak XP :D

bachus_anonym
11-07-2006, 09:36 PM
just under 15min @3320Mhz with Intel D975XBX Bad axe rev304

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975x/975xbx_results/E6700/HC200EX/gskill/pc6400phu2/17_18/1441/1067fsb/10x/800/332-498-4431_1.394-1.805-1.395-2.39/superpi-32m_single_14m59s984ms.png

... ooooh, coooome oooon, George :D :buddies: Don't let P5B Deluxe destroy that result :lol:

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 349x9=3142Mhz, Corsair 8888C4DF @ DDR2-1163 5-4-4-4.0 --> 14:59.391 (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/8888C4DF/349x9_DDR2-1163_5444_240v_32M.png)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, vcore/vdimm/vmch-modded; CPU cooled w/ stock cooler
vcore: 1.38v (DMM)
vdimm: 2.40v (DMM)
vmch: 1.47v (DMM)

I know, I know... Your BadAxe is not vmodded. Just messin' with ya :) But with some aggressive tweaking, there is probably still around 5s to gain up there.

EDIT: I'll add one more result, to start-up "15:xx" category:

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 327x9=2943Mhz, Corsair 8888C4DF @ DDR2-1090 5-4-4-4.0 --> 15:57.453 (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/8888C4DF/327x9_DDR2-1090_5444_227v_32M.png)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, vcore/vdimm/vmch-modded; CPU cooled w/ stock cooler
vcore: 1.33v (DMM)
vdimm: 2.27v (DMM)
vmch: 1.47v (DMM)
:toast: :peace:

eva2000
11-07-2006, 09:40 PM
hehe not sure but after reinstalling winxp, clock for clock my 32m pi times are 10 seconds slower than before even with same tweaks ??? anyway it's time to play with Q6600 http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3278 so be back later :D

eva2000
11-12-2006, 12:35 AM
under 15min @3303Mhz with Intel D975XBX Bad axe rev304

@2.39v vdimm

Single 32M

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975x/975xbx_results/E6600_1/HC200EX/ocz/titanium_alphavx2/pc8000/1_2/1441/1067fsb/800/367-550-44412_1.418-1.725-1.395-2.39/superpi-32m_single_14m48s375ms_memset.png

Dual 32M

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975x/975xbx_results/E6600_1/HC200EX/ocz/titanium_alphavx2/pc8000/1_2/1441/1067fsb/800/367-550-44412_1.418-1.725-1.395-2.39/superpi-32m_tn.png

HermS
11-18-2006, 02:28 PM
Great idea for a challenge this, makes it accessible to everyone! :toast:

Anyways here's my entry:-
Sub 12 Mins @ 4102MHz (11m 56.891s)

E6600 @ 455 x 8 1:1 - 1.6v Aircooled Tuniq Tower 120
Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro VMCH @ 1.85v
2 x 1Gb Cellshock PC8000 D9GKX 3-3-3-1 TRD 5 @ DDR2 911 2.56v
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q148/JAFFA22/11-56-891.png

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q148/JAFFA22/3-3-3-1-453.png
All the best,

Maff

coop
11-18-2006, 02:48 PM
Nice entry HermS, welcome. I will update later, today I hope.

VictorWang
11-21-2006, 08:25 PM
400*9=3600mhz , ddr2_1200 4-4-4-4, p5b deluxe mod. pi_32m=13min02.062sec
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1162133719.jpg

================================================== ======



375*12=4500mhz, ram=ddr2_1126 4-4-3-1, p5w64 ws pro mod. pi_32m=11min05.313sec
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1162133748.jpg

dinos22
11-22-2006, 02:12 AM
MONSTER TIMES THERE VICTOR

that RAM is just kick arse

the only thing is that you are supposed to aim for 12m 5xs rather than 13m 0xs...bump the clocks a little and get under 13m and 11m respectively :p:

alpha0ne
11-22-2006, 10:35 AM
the only thing is that you are supposed to aim for 12m 5xs rather than 13m 0xs...bump the clocks a little and get under 13m and 11m respectively :p:

Cheeky bugger ^ :fact:

As always VictorWang, thanks for the "times to try for" :clap: :toast:

VictorWang
11-23-2006, 06:57 AM
thx dinos and alpha, I'll try when I have time ag. :D

coop
11-23-2006, 09:41 AM
"that RAM is just kick arse" agreed, what IS that?? Cellshock?

3oh6
11-24-2006, 06:56 PM
having some fun with my Team Xtreem 6400 C4s on the AM2 setup...

25.xx.xxx - 2747MHz
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/3oh6/xsforum/super_pi/2747_4-4-3-5_32m-1.gif

i will be back with some more from this setup for the other time blocks soon enough.

eva2000
12-08-2006, 10:36 AM
System:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe QPGE B1 Step 5
Swiftech G4 Storm/Thermochill 120.3/MCP650 + Kayl 100W Custom PSU
Asus P5B Deluxe 0804 bios
128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATAII
LiteOn 165H DVD-ROM
FDD
3x 120x25mm 76cfm 0.4A fans
1KW OCZ ProXStream 1000PXS Quad PCI-E psu (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3317)


Below is probably one of my fastest single 32M Super Pi times I have done at such low cpu clocks of 3269mhz!


2GB Gskill PC6400PHU2 HZ Micron D9GMH 0629 Batch
@544mhz 4-4-4-4 2-25-5-9-9-9

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B_Deluxe/results/G4Storm/E6600_1/gskill/6400phu2/21_22/0804/maxi/9x/800/363-544-4444-2-25-5999_1.4-1.4-1.65-2.58/memset/superpi-32m_single_14m54s156ms.png

Hipro Maximizer powered http://i4memory.com/showpost.php?p=53634&postcount=3 :D

overcrash86
12-31-2006, 05:26 PM
victor can you give us your sub timings please ?

http://maxicrash.free.fr/Conroe%20E6600%20Step6/P5B%20Dlx/aircooled/PI%2032M%20test/3600Mhz%2013m21.266s-2.JPG

i cant get better than this :/

Vitoco18
01-02-2007, 10:28 PM
Hello everybody, im new on this, here is my screenshot:


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6899/32miq6.th.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32miq6.jpg)


Intel Core 2 duo E6300 @ 3.1 Ghz
Memory TA ddr2 667 cas 5 @ 900 Mhz
Motherboard Gigabyte 965P-DS3
Hard Disk Hitachi 164 Gb Sata II
PSU Logicys Black Beauty 480 Watts
Coolermaster Centurion 5
Dvd-RW LG 18x

Cya Everybody

before
01-04-2007, 07:04 AM
Just testing the RAM with 2.09V (DMM)... :banana:

I'll try my luck for sub 13mins with CAS5.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9471/e6600spi32m13m02359sqm3.png

alpha0ne
01-04-2007, 07:22 PM
Just testing the RAM with 2.09V (DMM)... :banana:

I'll try my luck for sub 13mins with CAS5.

Thats an amazingly good time before :clap: :toast:


I would sell a kidney for your ram :fact:

Gautam
01-04-2007, 07:23 PM
He's just babying it. Those are pure monsters once they get real voltage. :eek: Seems like he's teasing us. ;)

dinos22
01-04-2007, 08:06 PM
I would sell a kidney for your ram :fact:
you say that all the time

how many kidneys have you got mate

alpha0ne
01-04-2007, 08:14 PM
you say that all the time

how many kidneys have you got mate

None left now you tosser :p:

dinos22
01-04-2007, 09:38 PM
None left now you tosser :p:
:p: :D :D :D :D :D :p:

alpha0ne
01-04-2007, 09:42 PM
And now that I have no more body parts to sell it looks like I'll have to PAY for another E6300 L631B239 :mad: :( :p: :slapass:

dinos22
01-04-2007, 09:44 PM
And now that I have no more body parts to sell it looks like I'll have to PAY for another E6300 L631B239 :mad: :( :p: :slapass:
WTF are you buying that for man

any E6300 will do 3.5ghz i reckon hahahahah

alpha0ne
01-04-2007, 09:50 PM
WTF are you buying that for man

any E6300 will do 3.5ghz i reckon hahahahah

My week 27 does that too but my E6600 wont, it wont even run at 3.20GHz 24/7 :stick: :fact: :p: :D

dinos22
01-04-2007, 10:08 PM
My week 27 does that too but my E6600 wont, it wont even run at 3.20GHz 24/7 :stick: :fact: :p: :D
GAY CPU GAAAAAAAY

before
01-05-2007, 06:01 AM
He's just babying it. Those are pure monsters once they get real voltage. :eek: Seems like he's teasing us. ;)

hehe :D Thx both Alpha and Gautam :toast:

Actually, I'm fighting for the lowest time @3.6GHz with these sticks @600MHz 4-4-4-4... Weird thing that it needs at least 2.5V to run stable @600MHz CAS4 while it ONLY needs 2.09V to do so @614MHz CAS5 :( Also, 2.6V results in less stability (at least for 32M calculations).

before
01-06-2007, 12:50 PM
So close to sub 13mins :D

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/422/e6600spi32m13m04672sse4.png

Gautam
01-06-2007, 12:58 PM
Interesting...no way that can really be cas 3...but it does seem to perform better than CAS 4. That's the fastest 3.6GHz time I've seen by a couple of seconds, and that too with only 2x512!

Lower tRFC possible?

before
01-06-2007, 01:30 PM
yea, it's a Biostar bug... it missreads CAS4 (set into the bios of course) while running 2:3 ratio.

tRFC=28 seems the lowest possible.

I've been able to save few seconds up to 6.9GB copy-waza. (1.6GB more resulted in less stability: crashes or worst times)

dinos22
01-06-2007, 01:37 PM
yea, it's a Biostar bug... it missreads CAS4 (set into the bios of course) while running 2:3 ratio.

tRFC=28 seems the lowest possible.

I've been able to save few seconds up to 6.9GB copy-waza. (1.6GB more resulted in less stability: crashes or worst times)
oh i thought that was cas3.....these times are even more awesome then :toast:

Gautam
01-06-2007, 01:40 PM
6.9GB??? :eek:

Seems well worth it though, that time is just flat out amazing. I wonder how you'd do with 2x1024. :eek:

dinos22
01-06-2007, 01:44 PM
6.9GB??? :eek:

Seems well worth it though, that time is just flat out amazing. I wonder how you'd do with 2x1024. :eek:
yeah he's got some supertweaks going on :D

before
01-06-2007, 02:39 PM
Thx my friends :toast:

I'd love to try with a good 2*1024MB kit... my bro Quent is going to send me a kit of Corsair Dominator; may be sub 13mins @3.6GHz will become reality then :p:

before
01-07-2007, 08:08 AM
Here's my lowest CPU clock to join the sub 13mins club. :)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7341/e6600spi32m12m59688sbx9.png

coop
01-12-2007, 11:34 PM
YES! 11sec http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3746/32m11mincpuzkc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mi©hel
01-22-2007, 08:12 AM
this takes about an hour on my athlon 64 x2, lol :D

when i get the time, i'll see what i can do

*thinks about crappy ram, crappy cpu and dfi expert mainboard*

i'm in for the 40.xx min contest :lol:

dinos22
02-13-2007, 04:06 PM
nice one coop :)

dinos22
02-13-2007, 04:07 PM
got one with the 17.xx category with allendale and some elcheapo micron sticks doing 600Mhz 32M :D

Not optimised yet but a start heh

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7350/600mhzsuperpi32m5661524xv4.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=600mhzsuperpi32m5661524xv4.jpg)[/B]

rick_fx
02-16-2007, 08:50 PM
I decided to try this out. :)

Unmoded p5b-dlx, no tweaks except pagefile ~160mb, old Windows XP install.

13m37sec SPI 32M (can't do SPI at higher ram speed, I need to Vmod the board for 600mhz ;))
http://i15.tinypic.com/35aw6ja.jpg

dinos22
02-16-2007, 09:50 PM
page file = 160M

how much of a gain did you see with this tweak

rick_fx
02-16-2007, 09:56 PM
page file = 160M

how much of a gain did you see with this tweak

I never tried with bigger pagefile, I always close useless programs before running SPI.

But I will try tomorrow to see how much gain it gives. :)

coop
02-16-2007, 11:26 PM
dinos, rick fx, I'm still here. I will update on Sat. Thanks dinos.

JMKS
02-17-2007, 09:43 AM
14.xx with Allendale :)
E6400 @ 404x8=3232MHz, 4:5 505 4-4-4-4-4-20-4-9-4-9 with Asus Commando (1066 strap), 14m54.328s
Without Copy Waza (OS on FAT16 partition ;))

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/930/32msub15m3232mhzeb2.jpg

dinos22
02-17-2007, 01:58 PM
what the heck OS on FAT16 partition DO TELL MORE PLEASE

nice time btw :cool:

JMKS
02-17-2007, 02:34 PM
FAT16 is not really important, this is only the explanation why Copy Waza was impossible. In fact, it is not important at all ;).
I have very non-Pi partitioned HDD so for Pi OS there was only a couple of GB - so FAT16, why not ;), now I can flash with EZFlash without FDD :).

Just a not-really-well-tweaked (registry is absolutely not tweaked - I'm not good in it...) OS.

Tried with higher FSB but 4:5 and 1066 strap is very hard combination, even on Commando with ~2V @ NB...

My best 32M was 12m30.3xxs, 498 FSB @ 1066 strap :) (CPU is capable of ~510 FSB, NB is limiting).

rick_fx
02-18-2007, 04:39 PM
Update with better scores :cool:

Ram only at 500Mhz 4:5, for now.
I will test 600mhz 2:3 after I do Vmods this week :)

Ram timings in notepad
Only tweak used is "kill explorer.exe"

SPI 32M --> 13m25.468sec
http://i12.tinypic.com/2dhboeq.jpg

coop
02-18-2007, 06:43 PM
rick, a better score does no good unless it is done at a lower speed. Then only if it comes in under the "minute" mark. Also 1m pi's don't belong here. Slow your speed down to whatever to make 13min 59sec. etc.

dinos22
02-18-2007, 07:41 PM
rick, a better score does no good unless it is done at a lower speed. Then only if it comes in under the "minute" mark. Also 1m pi's don't belong here. Slow your speed down to whatever to make 13min 59sec. etc.
LOL i stopped counting how many times we've all mentioned that to everyone.........maybe a bigass RED BOLD letters on first post might do the trick LOL heheh

rick_fx
02-18-2007, 08:50 PM
Ok, SPI 1M results removed, sorry about that. :)

I was looking for something else to do with Super Pi and came up with this. Try getting into various minute segments with the lowest possible clock speeds. If someone has a lower (22.59 21.59 etc) or higher min. segment for a challenge feel free.
Your request is very vague and should be more specific in your first post. ;)

Here are couple suggestions: :)

Maybe you could start off your 1st post by mentioning that scores must be between a XXmin55sec - XXmin05sec bracket or XXmin50sec - XXmin10sec bracket and that all scores not respecting this criteria will not be added to the list. Also, maybe remove all existing scores that aren't within the time brackets.

Example: (using scores already in the first post)

13m50sec - Goal:14minutes - 14m10sec

3604.1......camouflage...............13.52.609
3596.3......alpha0ne...................13.54.297
3600.9......eva2000....................13.56.422
3800.1......dinos22................... ..13.57.187
3392.2......bachus_anonym...........13.57.485
4000.........funkflix.......................14.03. 781

I hope this is helpful :2cents: :)

dinos22
02-18-2007, 09:09 PM
Rick the idea is the have the scores at XXm 5Xs at lowest possible CPU MHz

i don't know what funkflix's result is doing there but you see all the other ones are around 13m 52-58s and the lowest MHz CPU wins the round basically

so my allendale run is a shocker because the CPU is a B5 Step5 and have 2MB L2 cache .....so for me to improve there i would need to first of all get a B2 Step6 which is quicker clock for clock and use an E6600 with 4MB cache and the best possible RAM combination....ideally 1200MHz with tightest possible timings or clockgen to 450MHz FSB with 4:5 divider and RAM at 563MHz 4-4-4-x which is impossible on my motherboard with 4:5 ratio

out of that bunch this is the quickest time because bachus_anonym achieved SUB-14m superpi time with lowest CPU speed :)



3604.1......camouflage...............13.52.609
3596.3......alpha0ne...................13.54.297
3600.9......eva2000....................13.56.422
3800.1......dinos22................... ..13.57.187
3392.2......bachus_anonym...........13.57.485
4000.........funkflix.......................14.03. 781

JMKS
02-20-2007, 10:31 AM
Allendale 7x374 4:5 4-4-4-4-4-20-4-9-4-9, Asus Commando
17:59.813s :)
Not a bad one I think :D, still without Copy Waza ;).

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8905/32msub18m2618mhzku0.jpg

k|ngp|n
02-24-2007, 11:18 AM
Broke 13sec with 3600mhz :D and 600mhz on my 6400c3's:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/12min57sec%2032m%203600mhz.jpg

coop
02-24-2007, 12:08 PM
Thanks for the suggestion rick and for the explaination dinos. I hope this is good for now. At the start I wanted to include as many people as possible to get people interested and get the thread going. It may need some revision and housekeeping now. I will try to check here more as I don't seem to get the email notification everytime there is a post. Excellent time k|ngp|n. dinos, it looks like we need to get busy again. Post has been updated.

anubis
02-24-2007, 12:14 PM
17.XX category
This was really not done for this challenge, but it does meet the requirements
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/7973/433mhzspi32mbxk8.jpg

Nothings tweaked, even had antivirus running :toast:

Gautam
02-24-2007, 03:00 PM
Broke 13sec with 3600mhz :D and 600mhz on my 6400c3's:

:eek: :eek:

Plenty have been waiting to see sub 13m at 3.6GHz flat forever, plenty have come close but no one's quite nailed it till just now. :D WTG Vince, you definitely have this game down. :toast:

Btw, if you want another another lil challenge check this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127570) out.

I think I've hit the final straw...these 965 mobos on the 2:3 are just untouchable. It's about time sometime gave them a shot for serious clocks. ;)

eva2000
02-24-2007, 04:16 PM
Broke 13sec with 3600mhz :D and 600mhz on my 6400c3's:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/12min57sec%2032m%203600mhz.jpg
nice vince congrats that's

777.188 x 3603.4 = 2,800,519

very efficient there :)

I did this on Asus 680i striker

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/400-600-5333-2-1-2-8-2-24_1.5-2.5-1.35-1.7-1.5-1.35/maxmem/superpi-32m_single_13m14s859ms.png

794.859 x 3599.9 = 2,861,413

JMKS
02-25-2007, 05:57 AM
Another result of my Allendale, 6x391 this time ;) => 19m58.922s

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/2495/32msub20m2346mhzhx2.jpg

k|ngp|n
02-25-2007, 09:40 AM
:eek: :eek:

Plenty have been waiting to see sub 13m at 3.6GHz flat forever, plenty have come close but no one's quite nailed it till just now. :D WTG Vince, you definitely have this game down. :toast:

Btw, if you want another another lil challenge check this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127570) out.

I think I've hit the final straw...these 965 mobos on the 2:3 are just untouchable. It's about time sometime gave them a shot for serious clocks. ;)

Thanx man :D
Really having a blast tweaking 32m with the lower clock speeds...who says you need run 3d with ln2 and monster clocks to have a good time lol ;)
Decided to take you up on that sub 4ghz challenge, but just realized after 2hrs or so of benching that the results in that thread are 1m and not 32m rofl.
Anyways, here is the fruit of my labor this morning. I will try for somw 1m at 4ghz next:
11min 53sec at 4ghz flat:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/11min53sec%2032m%204ghz.jpg


nice vince congrats thats

777.188 x 3603.4 = 2,800,519

very efficient there :)
I did this on Asus 680i striker

thanx and very nice time on 680i eva!

NiCKE^
02-25-2007, 09:42 AM
Nice result. Have you tried 680i any?

k|ngp|n
02-25-2007, 10:02 AM
Nice result. Have you tried 680i any?

Can't say I have run pi on 680i much. Faster than 965/975?
damn..that chick in your avatar is smokin!!

Gautam
02-25-2007, 10:05 AM
Not according to any current results. :p:

965 seems to be the king when used with those bigass mem clocks and 1066 strap. 680i looks pretty good after all...but seems a bit behind 965.

I think the next slowest speed that anyone was able to pull off sub 12m was in the 4.1 gig range, another great time there. :clap:

before
02-25-2007, 10:42 AM
Nice time Vince! :toast: hehe I need a good 2Gb kit to challenge you...

Prior to this run, did you try it first w/o waza?

Death^Dread
02-25-2007, 10:42 AM
Any guesses on how many days it would take on the Pentium-90 in my garage? I'd like to see 90MHz matched though.:stick:

:)

Don't make me break it out.

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

NiCKE^
02-25-2007, 11:13 AM
Can't say I have run pi on 680i much. Faster than 965/975?
damn..that chick in your avatar is smokin!!
With thight subtimings it should be atleast as good as 975 from what eva2000 said. Then you can run 1T also but it will probably need like 480ish before you can see it be equal between 1T and 600 2T.

dinos22
02-25-2007, 06:46 PM
With thight subtimings it should be atleast as good as 975 from what eva2000 said. Then you can run 1T also but it will probably need like 480ish before you can see it be equal between 1T and 600 2T.
nah i don't think you'll be able to beat 975x/965x but one advantage it does have is maxing out RAM so you may beat it in some instances if intel chipset runs out of dividers

andre X_X
02-25-2007, 07:41 PM
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4897/8264235v600mhz5549cg0.jpg

eva2000
02-25-2007, 08:20 PM
With thight subtimings it should be atleast as good as 975 from what eva2000 said. Then you can run 1T also but it will probably need like 480ish before you can see it be equal between 1T and 600 2T.
it's close but still 680i will be a bit behind but the gap is alot smaller than what was first thought :)

dinos22
02-25-2007, 08:55 PM
:banana::banana::banana::banana: this i need to get a B2 stepping this is killing me grrrrr

alpha0ne
02-25-2007, 10:18 PM
:banana::banana::banana::banana: this i need to get a B2 stepping this is killing me grrrrr

I've got one you can swap for :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

eva2000
02-25-2007, 10:30 PM
LOL alpha

Well 1 second faster at 3600mhz, and also did 3612mhz and 3647mhz runs to see what it takes on 680i striker to hit sub 13min 05s times for 32M

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/400-600-5333-2-1-2-7-2-22_1.475-2.525-1.35-1.75-1.55-1.35/superpi-32m_single_13m13s859ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/401-602-5333-2-1-2-7-2-22_1.475-2.525-1.35-1.75-1.55-1.35/superpi-32m_single_13m11s312ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/405-607-5333-2-1-2-7-2-22_1.475-2.525-1.35-1.75-1.55-1.35/superpi-32m_single_13m04s953ms.png

dinos22
02-25-2007, 10:33 PM
I've got one you can swap for :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
lol i need something that can do 3GHz with a little less vcore......what did you say you need again 1.6v ROFL :p: :D

hipro5
02-25-2007, 11:05 PM
Broke 13sec with 3600mhz :D and 600mhz on my 6400c3's:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/12min57sec%2032m%203600mhz.jpg


Ha, ha, ha......NICE GOING there Vince......:D :toast:

NiCKE^
02-26-2007, 01:45 AM
it's close but still 680i will be a bit behind but the gap is alot smaller than what was first thought :)
Ah okey, then I misunderstood you.

coop
02-26-2007, 11:44 PM
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3083/32m3849bew4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Zeus
02-27-2007, 04:01 AM
I've been working my fingers to the bone lately to get sub 13 minutes.

Running async finally got me somewhere but the CPU frequency is way too high for my taste.

I was expecting to hit this mark at around ~3730MHz.

Looking at k|ngp|n's result my jaw dropped to the floor. :eek:

Here's my attempt at sub 13 min. with my i975 board:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/screenshots/32M12min57.jpg

I will try some more but i think i'm gonna need 3-3-3 for better results.

dinos22
02-27-2007, 04:17 AM
if you had RAM running at 600MHz 4-4-4-x (which is almost impossible on 975x) you could probably be somewhere in 3.6+GHz range....RAM has a lot to do with that run but he has put all those tweaks better than anyone else pretty much.....good on ya Vince you showed us how it gets done :)

SLi_dog
02-27-2007, 05:14 AM
he has put all those tweaks better than anyone else pretty much.....good on ya Vince you showed us how it gets done :)
Yeah, go back to 3DMark would ya k|ngp|n :p:



Just kidding :)

Top stuff, sub 13mins @3.6Ghz is freakin insane :clap:

k|ngp|n
02-27-2007, 12:33 PM
Yeah, go back to 3DMark would ya k|ngp|n :p:

Just kidding :)

Top stuff, sub 13mins @3.6Ghz is freakin insane :clap:

haha...thx man. I'll go back as soon as I am done testing some b2 chips for the "one". Until then, you guys are stuck with me :).

Zeus
02-27-2007, 01:08 PM
Sub 14 minutes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/SuperPifactory/32Msub14min.jpg

s7e9h3n
02-27-2007, 01:21 PM
Looks like I've got some learning to do:wth: Too bad I killed the mobo after 2 days :rolleyes:......On air ~1.54Vcore IIRC (It was a couple weeks ago).......

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7052/11x36332msb7.jpg

JMKS
02-27-2007, 02:36 PM
493x7, Allendale again :) (hmm... all multipliers used for different "Time Zones", not sure what to do next ;) - sub-13M with x8 will not be that good...)
13m58.203s
I really must find some space to do Copy Waza...

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/7408/32msub14m3451mhzor9.jpg

dinos22
02-27-2007, 02:51 PM
493x7, Allendale again :) (hmm... all multipliers used for different "Time Zones", not sure what to do next ;) - sub-13M with x8 will not be that good...)
13m58.203s
I really must find some space to do Copy Waza...

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/7408/32msub14m3451mhzor9.jpg
How the hell did you manage that eek

JMKS
02-27-2007, 03:04 PM
1066 strap as usual, nothing else. Really, OS is not fully optimized (clean registry - don't know how to do it properly..., and w/o Copy Waza).

dinos22
02-27-2007, 03:25 PM
1066 strap as usual, nothing else. Really, OS is not fully optimized (clean registry - don't know how to do it properly..., and w/o Copy Waza).
your time is REALLY good....almost too good to be true according to your description :)

what is that icon on desktop OPB_Cleane...

JMKS
02-27-2007, 03:47 PM
OPB_Cleane...
r.bat, also nothing special, batch cleaning some "Recent documents" links, temp files etc.
The strap is very powerful, quick tests (by me ;)) showed that 422x8 @ 1333 is slower in SPi than 400x8 @ 1066.
I'm not sure how it works on QuadGT, but for me (Commando, NB @ 2,025V) it was impossible (with ambient temp <0&#176;C etc) to reach (on 1066) 510 1M... 505 16M (over 13s better than P5B-Dlx FSB 510 @ 1333) and 508 1M (0.250s better than 514,6 FSB on P5B-Dlx @ 1333) max so far (and spring is coming, so no hope to improve FSB).
And yes, I know that time is good - I'm trying not to post bad ones ;). But bachus seems untouchable, 2:3 and 4MB cache is working good.

dinos22
02-27-2007, 04:11 PM
i know about the strap performance hence why i say your time is crazy good even at 1066 strap........have you got a 4MB cache CPU you can bench as well with those settings.....it would be interesting to know how you would go.........judging by that time i would say it would be close to KPs time even with slower memory....surely you must have some other tweaks you aren't tell us :p: :D

dinos22
02-27-2007, 08:35 PM
i did some thinking today (in know how scary :D)



@JMKS if you are telling those are your tweaks i honestly don't know how to put this but to say that you are using a cheat of some sort as there is no chance you can do that at normal tweaks........someone (including yourself) please prove me wrong





Actually i just cannot see how you could beat everyone with "Not so optimised OS" and "no registry tweaks and no copy wazza"......TO BE PERFECTLY clear here i don't think with a perfectly tweaked OS and registry tweaks you could achieve that with those settings

coop
02-27-2007, 08:54 PM
I would like to know how to be able to run that good of a time at that speed as well. I'm working at it and can't come close even with a couple tweaks.

eva2000
02-27-2007, 09:02 PM
How the hell did you manage that eek
dinos not hard to do sub 14min under 3.5ghz

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B_Deluxe/results/G4Storm/X6800_1/team/6400c3/1_2/0804/9x/800/387-580-4448_3-25_510810_1.4125-1.4-1.65-2.45/superpi-32m_single_13m50s532ms.png

but for E6400 2MB with 493FSB 1:1 seems a bit weird unless he's got vMCH modded and clockgen'd his way from 400FSB to 493FSB.

what board JMKS ?

dinos22
02-27-2007, 09:08 PM
dinos not hard to do sub 14min under 3.5ghz

but for E6400 2MB with 493FSB 1:1 seems a bit weird unless he's got vMCH modded and clockgen'd his way from 400FSB to 493FSB.

what board JMKS ?
YES not hard on E6600 as BA demonstrated doing it sub 3.4GHz

BUT BAs RAM was very high at tight latency and in 1066 strap

JMKS is using Commando but i just don't see how it is possible man

coop
02-27-2007, 10:24 PM
ok getting better..http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5712/32m13593512hp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dinos22
02-27-2007, 10:26 PM
3390MHz is what you should be aiming for. :D:D:D:D BA doesn't make it easy does he heheh.........i think Vince has it covered if he decides to give it a crack :) :toast:

s7e9h3n
02-28-2007, 12:43 AM
but for E6400 2MB with 493FSB 1:1 seems a bit weird unless he's got vMCH modded and clockgen'd his way from 400FSB to 493FSB.

Ummm, I think you're forgetting that the amount of l2 cache isn't very important in 32m....you'll see the difference most @ 1m ;)

dinos22
02-28-2007, 01:07 AM
Ummm, I think you're forgetting that the amount of l2 cache isn't very important in 32m....you'll see the difference most @ 1m ;)
you probably haven't done much benching with 4MB and 2MB cache CPUs if you think that :)

eva2000
02-28-2007, 01:22 AM
Ummm, I think you're forgetting that the amount of l2 cache isn't very important in 32m....you'll see the difference most @ 1m ;)
nope HUUUUUUUUGE diff for core2 4MB vs 2MB for 32M ;)

dinos22
02-28-2007, 01:26 AM
nope HUUUUUUUUGE diff for core2 4MB vs 2MB for 32M ;)
LOL to put it bluntly :D

hipro5
02-28-2007, 01:33 AM
Hmmmm......where can I find this "OPB_Cleane..." proggie?......It seems that it gives a GOOD boost.....:)

s7e9h3n
02-28-2007, 01:33 AM
nope HUUUUUUUUGE diff for core2 4MB vs 2MB for 32M ;)
Oh really? Then please explain the 14.xx results to me...I believe you used a 4mb cpu in that bench as well....;)

dinos22
02-28-2007, 01:35 AM
Hmmmm......where can I find this "OPB_Cleane..." proggie?......It seems that it gives a GOOD boost.....:)
heheheheh :D

alpha0ne
02-28-2007, 01:37 AM
heheheheh :D

Well that aint no answer biatch :p: :banana:

s7e9h3n
02-28-2007, 01:49 AM
LOL to put it bluntly :D
OK...then maybe you can answer my question....;)

What it comes down to is that you THINK the 4mb cpu's have a huge advantage since you see the majority of outrageous clocks and low pi scores coming from them when, in fact, the cache plays MUCH lesser of a role in a 32m run vs. a 1m run. The difference - percentage wise - between the 4mb cpu's and 2mb cpu's is HUUUUUUGE :p: in a 1m run but it's a whole 'nother story when you compare 32m's......

before
02-28-2007, 02:06 AM
2M

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5125/e4300spi32m13m15703scz1.png

4M

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3965/e6600spi32m13m03968slo9.png

Not exactly the same clocks, but as can be seen the difference is very small. May be sub-13mins is possible with both CPUs and 2Gb of RAM instead of my good ol 1Gb kit.

dinos22
02-28-2007, 02:20 AM
OK...then maybe you can answer my question....;)

What it comes down to is that you THINK the 4mb cpu's have a huge advantage since you see the majority of outrageous clocks and low pi scores coming from them when, in fact, the cache plays MUCH lesser of a role in a 32m run vs. a 1m run. The difference - percentage wise - between the 4mb cpu's and 2mb cpu's is HUUUUUUGE :p: in a 1m run but it's a whole 'nother story when you compare 32m's......
i don't test 1M much to be honest (this is a 32M challenge thread :p:)

but in my testing on B1 steppings there was as much as 40 seconds difference between 2M vs 4MB

looks like Before's benches look more like half that on B2 steppings....

s7e9h3n
02-28-2007, 02:21 AM
2M

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5125/e4300spi32m13m15703scz1.png

4M

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3965/e6600spi32m13m03968slo9.png

Not exactly the same clocks, but as can be seen the difference is very small. May be sub-13mins is possible with both CPUs and 2Gb of RAM instead of my good ol 1Gb kit.
Thank you my friend :toast:

So who's gonna be the first to admit they were wrong? lol........

dinos22
02-28-2007, 02:24 AM
Thank you my friend :toast:

So who's gonna be the first to admit they were wrong? lol........
LOL let's see clock for clock difference

and i think 20-40 seconds is massive lol.....it isn't to you?!?

before
02-28-2007, 02:24 AM
Here are the good screenies to compare... same clocks, same timings; same tweaking

2M

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4440/e4300spi32m13m06954sks5.png

4M

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5281/e6600spi32m13m02546sln2.png

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4125/crazyboydw7.png

s7e9h3n
02-28-2007, 02:25 AM
i don't test 1M much to be honest (this is a 32M challenge thread :p:)

but in my testing on B1 steppings there was as much as 40 seconds difference between 2M vs 4MB

looks like Before's benches look more like half that on B2 steppings....
And 32m's is what I was originally talking about.....40 seconds is a HUUUUUGE difference :confused: ? On a 15 minute 32m run, that's less than a 5% difference.....

s7e9h3n
02-28-2007, 02:30 AM
Here are the good screenies to compare... same clocks, same timings; same tweaking

Wow....that's pretty damn close :clap: (Actually even closer than I thought possible)....LOL @ the Super Tulip Gardena SPD :D

dinos22
02-28-2007, 02:36 AM
OMG :eek: how the hell did you do that


i'm gonna pretend this didn't happen :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

ok :banana::banana::banana::banana: it i'm going to do the test now E6600ES B1 vs E6300ES B1 at 400MHz FSB.........same settings



Here are the good screenies to compare... same clocks, same timings; same tweaking

2M

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4440/e4300spi32m13m06954sks5.png

4M

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5281/e6600spi32m13m02546sln2.png

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4125/crazyboydw7.png

dinos22
02-28-2007, 02:37 AM
And 32m's is what I was originally talking about.....40 seconds is a HUUUUUGE difference :confused: ? On a 15 minute 32m run, that's less than a 5% difference.....
looks like mine yours and evas definition of huge differs considerably lol


i'm gonna have to take it back what i said about the Polish overclocker cheating as Before clearly demonstrated it is possible(well sort of....with the right RAM clocks) hehe.............it's crazy wow

s7e9h3n
02-28-2007, 02:43 AM
ok :banana::banana::banana::banana: it i'm going to do the test now E6600ES B1 vs E6300ES B1 at 400MHz FSB.........same settings
ES's don't really give a very good indication in terms of final performance numbers, even more so with the B1's. You'll get a better picture with a B2 ES, but ultimately it's the retail chips that count ;)

dinos22
02-28-2007, 04:05 AM
looks like i was badly wrong........i must have been comparing 1333 strap on E6300 due to high FSB benching i did with it and 1066 strap on E6600 as most of my SuperPI benching was at 3.6Ghz


anyways here is the full story with screenshots to go


FIRST UP E6600ES B1 BIOS SHOTS AND 32M SuperPI RUN:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4549/dsc03807td9.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03807td9.jpg)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/673/dsc03805bu1.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03805bu1.jpg)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2276/dsc03806lu4.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03806lu4.jpg)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7943/b1e6600es32msuperpi28ghir4.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b1e6600es32msuperpi28ghir4.jpg)



NEXT UP E6300ES B1 BIOS SHOTS AND 32M SuperPI RUN:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9388/dsc03808fy5.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03808fy5.jpg)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9224/dsc03810aj4.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03810aj4.jpg)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7397/dsc03809as0.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03809as0.jpg)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5453/b1e6300es32msuperpi28ghcl6.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b1e6300es32msuperpi28ghcl6.jpg)



BASICALLY 3 seconds difference........that's it :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

before
02-28-2007, 04:11 AM
Nice testing buddy! :)

dinos22
02-28-2007, 04:18 AM
Nice testing buddy! :)
thanks for pointing this out........it was pretty ignorant of me not to repeat my testing after some time you know what i mean :) :toast:

eva2000
02-28-2007, 04:40 AM
wow I'm surprised too but then i never touched a 2MB cache chip lol

but still if you're going for world ranked pi times 4MB cache is the key as every second counts :)

before
02-28-2007, 04:45 AM
@dinos22: :toast:

@eva2000: of course you're right... BTW a well tweaked 2M run @Spi32M easily beats an 'average' 4M run.

alpha0ne
02-28-2007, 05:44 AM
Thanks for clearing that up before :clap:

and thanks dinos for the bios shots with your benchies, removes all doubt now really :clap: :toast: :banana:

Zeus
02-28-2007, 06:44 AM
Gave sub 14 another shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/SuperPifactory/32Msub143.jpg

What am i doing wrong?? :confused:

k|ngp|n
02-28-2007, 11:14 AM
This thread is on fire!! I love it.
@nicke...yah I stole your girl
@zeus...from my testing ram mhz as a huge effect on time in 32m regardless of main or adv timings. Also booting at a tighter strap helps.
@before...How you like the commando compared to the p5b bro?? I am thinking of getting one.

NiCKE^
02-28-2007, 11:27 AM
No your little dirty :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: stay away from her! I will kill twitch for telling you who she was!! Damn that guy!

k|ngp|n
02-28-2007, 11:30 AM
No your little dirty :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: stay away from her! I will kill twitch for telling you who she was!! Damn that guy!

Your buddy didnt tell me, I figured it out on my own ;)

NiCKE^
02-28-2007, 11:35 AM
Your buddy didnt tell me, I figured it out on my own ;)
Yeah sure, and the earth is flat? :stick: :toast: :banana: :p:

k|ngp|n
02-28-2007, 11:57 AM
Yeah sure, and the earth is flat? :stick: :toast: :banana: :p:

I'm serious bro...ask him. She's in alot of the modded car magazines, and guess what?? She's mine now :D

NiCKE^
02-28-2007, 12:18 PM
Hah she will always belong to me! But the worst part is that most users will think "Oh look at him he took the girl k|ngp|n's avatar" and not the other way around.

Yeah I know she started to pose in a car magazine IIRC.
But one thing is for sure SHE IS MINE! MOAHAHAHA :D

before
02-28-2007, 12:19 PM
This thread is on fire!! I love it.
@nicke...yah I stole your girl
@zeus...from my testing ram mhz as a huge effect on time in 32m regardless of main or adv timings. Also booting at a tighter strap helps.
@before...How you like the commando compared to the p5b bro?? I am thinking of getting one.

Both look like equivalent to me... less voltage mods to do for the Commando (Vcore and Vdroop are still required); but nothing really different in term of functionning.

My current main concern is trying to get the best possible compatibility for X6800 and QX6700 on that P965 chipset... I'll try under cascade ASAP with lastest bios' for both boards. It may exists a difference between P5B and Commando on this matter.

:toast:

k|ngp|n
02-28-2007, 05:37 PM
More runs..
14min class:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/14min26sec%2032m.jpg

and 13min class, this one can go lower I think with diff combination of strap/fsb/speed, but still a pretty decent time for the low clocks on both cpu and mem:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/13min46188%20sec%2032m.jpg

How is that commando testing coming before??
Sub zero? About to go back on ln2 finally with p5b.

dinos22
02-28-2007, 06:20 PM
KP drop the CPU MHz more and gives us all an even harder time with that sub-14m run

this thread IS on fire :woot: :banana:

s7e9h3n
03-01-2007, 07:15 AM
Thanks for clearing that up before :clap:

and thanks dinos for the bios shots with your benchies, removes all doubt now really :clap: :toast: :banana:
Why should there have been any doubt ;) ? Because I said it? :p:

s7e9h3n
03-01-2007, 08:43 AM
by the way is it me or did you actually went to the darkside :eek2:
you comitted a sin my friend :nono:

:D

;)
LOL....it's not mine....I'm just doing a favor for a friend.....Plus, my autocascade's lonely....it needs some use after 6 months in hibernation :D

massman
03-01-2007, 08:53 AM
Hmmmm......where can I find this "OPB_Cleane..." proggie?......It seems that it gives a GOOD boost.....:)

You might want to check out the threads at OCX ... ;)

corvus_corax
03-01-2007, 10:24 PM
Another time at 3.6Ghz, the same crappy and corrupted XPSP2 OS (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2019152&postcount=32) :slapass: , i'm too lazy to format LOL... nah! I have a lot of work to do and now i really don't have no time for benchs :(
I guess in a new and clean Win2003 installation (for example) will be better :D .
Booting from BIOS with those settings, nothing special:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v678/OCcorvus_corax/commando/th_comm1200444sp32m.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/OCcorvus_corax/commando/comm1200444sp32m.png)

@before: Wow!! Amazing times :eek: , especially with your E4300 :clap:, awesome and fine tweaking work! :toast:

coop
03-01-2007, 11:29 PM
17.xx

Zeus
03-03-2007, 09:41 AM
Coop, you forgot to add my 12.xxx minute (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2038521&postcount=403) result. ;)

coop
03-03-2007, 05:06 PM
^^ that's because it was better than mine. :D It is on now.
@corvus.. your previous score is better.

k|ngp|n
03-03-2007, 05:30 PM
I know this doesnt really belong here, but in the spirit of doing great times at lower clocks here was a quick 32m tonight when testing some b2 chips. 1sec better than my previous best with 60 less mhz :D, about as tweaked as I can get it. Time to just scale it up now:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/9min41sec%2032m.jpg

This board also rips for pifast..running clock for clock or faster than the 975x boys:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/1805%20pifast.jpg

Gautam
03-03-2007, 05:53 PM
:slobber:

Nice to see some heavy clocks on 965 (again). How about maxmem? :p:

dinos22
03-03-2007, 06:55 PM
KP is cheating

his RAM and CPU are too nice :D

before
03-04-2007, 01:25 AM
hey Vince, that some really nice ones bro! :toast:

What's the FPO/BATCH of this X6800 of yours?

hipro5
03-04-2007, 01:27 AM
Scaling a 965 board with 4:5 or 2:3, you can archive good resaults out of it....;) :)


This board also rips for pifast..running clock for clock or faster than the 975x boys:

NOPE......Pi-Fast you could get an "equal" resault out of 975 and 965.....Rams on 975 @ 441MHz Cas 3-3-3-1 (haven't tested it with Rams at 407MHz and Cas 3-2-2-1) and at 965 @ 600MHz.....170MHz difference on rams....:D

funkflix
03-04-2007, 01:29 AM
I know this doesnt really belong here, but in the spirit of doing great times at lower clocks here was a quick 32m tonight when testing some b2 chips. 1sec better than my previous best with 60 less mhz :D, about as tweaked as I can get it. Time to just scale it up now:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/9min41sec%2032m.jpg

This board also rips for pifast..running clock for clock or faster than the 975x boys:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/1805%20pifast.jpg

Nice results! :toast:

One question to you - aren't those 6400C3 Fatbodies?

coop
03-04-2007, 01:47 AM
Looks like a 9min catagory is needed. Right behind you in the 14min. k|ngp|n
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9352/32m14bdf7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dinos22
03-04-2007, 01:54 AM
how does 13.1s 1M at 3GHz sound with conroe


http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1323/snapshot3ld8.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3ld8.jpg)



UNDER LINUX :D

coop
03-04-2007, 02:09 AM
Can you do 32m with that?

dinos22
03-04-2007, 02:12 AM
i can but you guys would be :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing that it's too quick lol ;) :)

dinos22
03-04-2007, 02:49 AM
interestingly enough it's not that crash hot ~16m 19s

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8568/snapshot3kh9.jpg (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3kh9.jpg)

JMKS
03-04-2007, 03:43 AM
Allendale 400x8 4:5 "boot from BIOS"

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8100/32msub15m3200mhzzm7.jpg

My final effort, nothing to improve IMO (untouched registry as usual but Copy Waza applied this time :)). I have no RAM which will fly 580 or so (for 2:3 and beyond 400)... Sorry for no "OPB_Cleane..." visible :p: ;).
k|ngp|n, another run required ;).

k|ngp|n
03-04-2007, 05:13 AM
Scaling a 965 board with 4:5 or 2:3, you can archive good resaults out of it....;) :)



NOPE......Pi-Fast you could get an "equal" resault out of 975 and 965.....Rams on 975 @ 441MHz Cas 3-3-3-1 (haven't tested it with Rams at 407MHz and Cas 3-2-2-1) and at 965 @ 600MHz.....170MHz difference on rams....:D

Give and take right George :D ? I am working on 9.3 sconds now in 1m at a little over 5330mhz, not to bad eh?

k|ngp|n
03-04-2007, 05:20 AM
so you did the massman tweak then? Installing OS at 5.2ghz :D

haha yep

hipro5
03-04-2007, 06:19 AM
Give and take right George :D ? I am working on 9.3 sconds now in 1m at a little over 5330mhz, not to bad eh?

NOT bad Vince.......I think that you have persuated me to test my ABIT Quad GT .......:D

k|ngp|n
03-04-2007, 06:37 AM
care to share week and batch?



What's the FPO/BATCH of this X6800 of yours?

To be honest I am a little clueless when it comes to ID'ing chips and what the codes mean. I picked up two of these exact same codes on ebay both OEM, so they didnt come with a retail box...the first one I've tested and not lapped yet:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/L624%20chip.jpg
The 32m was done around 1.84v/-107c :D on my evo unit. Other benches 1.87v/-115c. Chip can go to about -134c before I encountered freezes in windows, but that is idle and with under 1.89vcore.
Keep in mind, just doing p5b pi stuff with high mem mhz and not pushing the chip too hard. To really see what the chip can do, best to put it on p5w64 with ovp mod and slack up the mem and strap.

k|ngp|n
03-04-2007, 06:39 AM
NOT bad Vince.......I think that you have persuated me to test my ABIT Quad GT .......:D

Awesome.... with a ddr maxi, some nice clocking mems, and a 965 mobo you can't go wrong with this combo.

before
03-04-2007, 08:31 AM
To be honest I am a little clueless when it comes to ID'ing chips and what the codes mean. I picked up two of these exact same codes on ebay both OEM, so they didnt come with a retail box...the first one I've tested and not lapped yet:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/L624%20chip.jpg
The 32m was done around 1.84v/-107c :D on my evo unit. Other benches 1.87v/-115c. Chip can go to about -134c before I encountered freezes in windows, but that is idle and with under 1.89vcore.
Keep in mind, just doing p5b pi stuff with high mem mhz and not pushing the chip too hard. To really see what the chip can do, best to put it on p5w64 with ovp mod and slack up the mem and strap.

hehe, looks like a gem buddy! :)

L624A hum interesting.

I've already tested a L623A, cold-bug free down to -158C pot temp but limited to 5232MHz@1.81V DMM suicide on P5B; and a L628A cold-bugged at -132C pot temp which got no real benefit from 2-stages cascade to LNČ (~ 5.06GHz).

Anyway, what's the ovp mod you are talking about?

Gautam
03-04-2007, 08:41 AM
My L623A screams on air and single stage, but I don't like the sound of that 1.8v cap. :( What's the rest of the code Xavier? Mine's L623A465.

9.3s at 5330 Mhz is just nuts. :eek:

before
03-04-2007, 08:49 AM
Full code is L623A694; what about yours?

Mine doesn't like volts at all... 1.81V is the very max under LN&#178;. :( Might be a reason for not climbing above 5.2GHz.

I've found just few minutes ago a L624A610 for sale... Similar to OC_Windforce's 5.4GHz chip, and not so far from Vince's actual one.

before
03-04-2007, 09:04 AM
I'm dreaming at it too... New solid copper container on Tuesday, 3-stages cascade at the same time or little bit later... need the right chip now! :D

Time has come for serious action!!

aasmaukr
03-04-2007, 09:31 AM
So installing OS with an overclocked system will lower the PI time? :eek: 9.3sec 1M @ ~5330MHz is pretty good :D

k|ngp|n
03-04-2007, 09:56 AM
My L623A screams on air and single stage, but I don't like the sound of that 1.8v cap. :( What's the rest of the code Xavier? Mine's L623A465.

9.3s at 5330 Mhz is just nuts. :eek:

Well, maybe one or two bumps over that for 9.39 ;)...but I am working on it.
1.8v cap is no good at all.

massman
03-04-2007, 10:05 AM
So installing OS with an overclocked system will lower the PI time?

Yes

before
03-04-2007, 10:56 AM
Humm I don't see a piece of a reason for that to happen... really. Speed of app has nothing to do with installation of windows... :)

An Barton installed windows is definitely not slower than a 5.6GHz C2D installed windows.

massman
03-04-2007, 11:00 AM
Humm I don't see a piece of a reason for that to happen... really. Speed of app has nothing to do with installation of windows... :)

An Barton installed windows is definitely not slower than a 5.6GHz C2D installed windows.

I posted the results on OCX a while a go (before their server went down). I actually got a nice boost when installing at 3000MHz instead of 1800MHz (3000+).

I haven't got an explanation though :(

before
03-04-2007, 11:04 AM
Guess the explanation might be somewhere else buddy.

Anyway, may be I'm not catching that clearly, but really, it seems me not possible.

massman
03-04-2007, 11:16 AM
Guess the explanation might be somewhere else buddy.

Anyway, may be I'm not catching that clearly, but really, it seems me not possible.

Nope, same testing conditions every installation, the setup didn't change at all.

crotale
03-04-2007, 11:49 AM
Got some pointers from k|ngp|n, but I'm still lacking clock to clock performance.

P5B Deluxe
OCZ PC2-8500 Platinum
E6600 L632F

http://www.nordiccrew.com/crotale/14m58.gif

aasmaukr
03-04-2007, 12:09 PM
Does this "tweak" (installing OS on OCed system) affect other benchies aswell?

massman
03-04-2007, 12:25 PM
I have only tested with superpi 1m/32m

coop
03-04-2007, 01:09 PM
If that is true it blows my mind,.. and just blows.
@crotale, that is a killer time, just awesome. I was up very late last night trying to get 3221. Very nice. Also, that "F" cpu, any word on those as to be any better generally. We have a store here with those but don't know anything about them. L634F's

crotale
03-04-2007, 01:26 PM
If that is true it blows my mind,.. and just blows.
@crotale, that is a killer time, just awesome. I was up very late last night trying to get 3221. Very nice. Also, that "F" cpu, any word on those as to be any better generally. We have a store here with those but don't know anything about them. L634F's
I'm still behind clock2clock, I can't tighten up the memories much more at this speed, they're on the very limit.

So far, it's not an excellent chip... 3.6GHz is about max at room temp with a good cooler. This is a 1.325 VID chip, I've heard lower VIDs are better clockers.

I know what you mean :) Hunting a 13.xxx time now... cutting seconds after second from 14.100, but I think I need to step up over 3.4GHz to make it.

*EDIT*
http://www.nordiccrew.com/crotale/13m53.gif

dinos22
03-04-2007, 02:59 PM
I have only tested with superpi 1m/32m
massman please post a thread explaining exactly what you did

i will test that against your claims with a nlite-d XP and installation at 3.8GHz to see if it makes a difference

Stapler
03-04-2007, 05:02 PM
^If I remember his thread right, he tested Super Pi on two seperate installs, with the same settings except one install was done at 2000mhz and another at 2800mhz. The 2800mhz was faster in both 1m and 32m. OPB has also been using this tweak for quite a while, and installs windows at over 5300mhz IIRC.

dinos22
03-04-2007, 05:14 PM
^If I remember his thread right, he tested Super Pi on two seperate installs, with the same settings except one install was done at 2000mhz and another at 2800mhz. The 2800mhz was faster in both 1m and 32m. OPB has also been using this tweak for quite a while, and installs windows at over 5300mhz IIRC.
there has to be an explanation for this

how the hell do you keep the CPU cool enough at 5300MHz to install OS unless he's got a slipstream one....

i just built one on saturday too so will see how that goes.....all 120MB in size with lots of tweaks :D

alpha0ne
03-04-2007, 08:00 PM
just built one on saturday too so will see how that goes.....all 120MB in size with lots of tweaks :D

Helps loading times too but if you blink whilst installing then you've missed it :banana:

dinos22
03-04-2007, 08:04 PM
Helps loading times too but if you blink whilst installing then you've missed it :banana:
:D :D :D :D :D

k|ngp|n
03-04-2007, 08:07 PM
Guys I :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing did it! I think new overall WR in superpi 32m at only 5261mhz :D. I am posting this here because I want to share it with my low clock challenge homies :toast: . Without the help of some of you guys, I could have never have done this...really. Give credit where credit is due. I appreciate it very, very much. Before, dinos, gautum, and others I pm'd. I busted my ass for almost two weeks on this score and it paid off like hard work always does.
http://www.overclockingpin.com/32mwr.jpg

Gautam
03-04-2007, 08:09 PM
:slobber: :cheer:


You're a monster bro, everything about that score is just plain jaw-dropping.

205MHz lower than second place...sheesh...

Strongest sign yet that its time to hit "checkout" at the egg. ;)