DFI NF4 SLI + Winbond UTT

[WOLF_OF_DK]

Hi Xtremers

We are two guys with one problem our windbond memory or DFI NF4 , we are not totally sure yet

our problem is that our memory maxes out at ~235 not matter of timings or the voltage we throw at them nothing seems to work

Systems:

Venice 3200+
DFI NF4 SLI-D / SLI-DR ( 704-2BT)
Gskill CH-5 UTT/ OCZ 3200 GOLD BH-5 UTT both 2*512 MB
Chill 520W / OCZ 520W

we both tried upto 3.5V-3.6V and a lot of different timings but none of them seems to work

We were hoping that you guys would post your timings or other important settings or things we could do wrong.

settings

HTT 3 or 4 depending of the speed
Divider 200

still we keep geting errors in Memtest 86


Regards Wolf_of_dk and hot_fifty

[|3ourne]

here are my mushkin redlines at 3.5V . hope this helps. Burn in gave me about 10 more mhz. So you might wanna try and do that .

[szukalski]

This is what I use for my TMSP BH-5 UTT and DFI Ultra-D :

2-2-5-2-7-12-2-2-1-2-1 (Classic BH-5 settings?)

Is that what you're using? I find looser timings can be unstable.
I find I can leave the HTT multi at 3, and most other settings on auto and I can get stability up to around 255MHz with 2x512 BH-5 UTT.

Edit : I also found 510-2FIX to be best for my board, but yours may be different.

[Big Deel]

Did you start with lower voltage such as 3.3 then up to 3.5.
I had memtest errors that were caused by to much voltage.

[corvus_corax]

Yes, you can try with a lower voltages. In my tests with Winbond UTT-BH, Memtest86+ test #2 shows errors if i use more voltage than necessary.

Over 235Mhz my two pairs of G.Skill GH only needs 3.0V and my VXs 3.1V (valuevx with UTT-BH).

BTW, AFAIK G.Skill don't use CH, only UTT-BH.

[toreide]

I have OCZ 3200 VX @ 3,5v with the following settings in bios:

200-e-2-2-5-2-7-16-2-2-1-2-1168-e-auto-0-level 8--a-a-a-16-d-16-7-d

[toreide]

forgot to say it does 254 mhz stable.

[hot_fifty]

damn,,, my g skills are with dark red heatspreaters on... I havent seen this before with G Skill UTT. Have they made some new ones with heatspreaters...

Regards hot_fifty (im with the problem)

[Cranox]

My settings on 2x512 mb twinmos speed premium pc3500 ( new bh-5 )
No probs 245 @ 3.2v

http://www.cranox.com/Rest/Timings/050XT.jpg

[hot_fifty]

I hate this. Why cant Wolf and me get those memory stabel...

[hot_fifty]

up please

[corvus_corax]

You can check with another BIOS for example Hellfire 510-2 or Merlin 510-2. Even 623-3 works fine with UTT-*H.

And you are using a fan, right?

[corvus_corax]

damn,,, my g skills are with dark red heatspreaters on... I havent seen this before with G Skill UTT. Have they made some new ones with heatspreaters...

Regards hot_fifty (im with the problem)
No problem with HS, actually i like how looks.
223MHz - 2.8V
http://www.imagecabin.com/imagehost/thumb/2832UQAzr/99926.jpg (http://www.imagecabin.com/imagehost/pic/2832UQAzr/99926.jpg)
http://www.imagecabin.com/imagehost/thumb/2832UQAzr/107762.gif (http://www.imagecabin.com/imagehost/pic/2832UQAzr/107762.gif)

[lemonlime]

Both floppy style and standard molex connected to the board?

[hot_fifty]

actually not the FDD/floppy stick is on.. Can it be because of that?
Corvus do you ha more results with higher voltage maybe 3v/3,2 and max

[hot_fifty]

up please.. can the floppy cable cause all that trouble

[|3ourne]

i havent had any problems with neither the floppy or the 4 pin port connected and i have been running this board for a while. Only on the 24 pin connector. The 4 pin port helps only when u use SLI and I am not really sure about the floppy connector .

[corvus_corax]

Corvus do you ha more results with higher voltage maybe 3v/3,2 and max
Yes buddy. 240Mhz on 3.1V stable, and 250Mhz on 3.2V but no fully stable (max stable SuperPI 4M) for SP8M or more i need 3.3V.

http://www.imagecabin.com/imagehost/thumb/2832UQAzr/102675.gif (http://www.imagecabin.com/imagehost/pic/2832UQAzr/102675.gif)
http://www.imagecabin.com/imagehost/thumb/2832UQAzr/103902.jpg (http://www.imagecabin.com/imagehost/pic/2832UQAzr/103902.jpg)

tREF, Drive/Data strength are the most important for stability (MAL and RP are important too, well all timings and parameters :) ), what values are you using?

Sorry i don't have more recent pics, two weeks ago my partition was corrupted :( , and right now i'm on TCCD.

[lemonlime]

up please.. can the floppy cable cause all that trouble

Definitely give it a try plugged in. I've seen all sorts of odd behavior from these boards when all board connectors are not plugged. I believe it is especially important when using +5V jumper.

[loc.o]

I use 510-2FIX bios, all 4 powerconnectors in board, VX up to 270 @ 3,6vdimm:

DRAM Frequency Set - 200 (DRAM/FSB:1/01)
Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable
CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 2.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 02 Bus Clocks
Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 05 Bus Clocks
Row precharge time (Trp) - 02 Bus Clocks
Row Cycle time (Trc) - 07 Bus Clocks
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 16 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time (Twr) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 01 Bus Clocks
Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 02 Bus Clocks
Refresh Period (Tref) - 1168 Cycles
Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - Auto
DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled

DQS Skew Control - Auto
DQS Skew Value - 0
DRAM Drive Strength - Level 8
DRAM Data Drive Strength - Auto
Max Async Latency - Auto
DRAM Response - Normal
Read Preamble Time - Auto
IdleCycle Limit - 16 Cycles
Dynamic Counter - Disable
R/W Queue Bypass - 16 x
Bypass Max - 07 x
32 Byte Granularity - Disable(4 Bursts)

[killingspreez]

little offtopic: corvus corax, where did you get this nice looking smart guardian ?
i googled about 15 minutes for now....found nothing :(

and here to help this guy with the g.skill GH here are my results with bigtoe's newest bios i think.

http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/7928/ddr2708br.th.jpg (http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddr2708br.jpg)

mfg

[corvus_corax]

little offtopic: corvus corax, where did you get this nice looking smart guardian ?
i googled about 15 minutes for now....found nothing :(
Just a little mod :D . I based in this great thread in DFI-Street:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24206

I took logo of a shot of DFI UT NF4 box.

[WOLF_OF_DK]

which dimms are the best Orange or yellow ?

[toreide]

Yellow is usually best :)

[killingspreez]

there is no usually!
try both! i'm using the orange ones...

mfg

[corvus_corax]

Yes, try both slots. And i think that is better check dimm by dimm to know capacities of each one.

[toreide]

up please.. can the floppy cable cause all that trouble

It won't hurt to try :)

[hot_fifty]

have tryet.. can it be my venice/mobo which cant run so great with g skill when oc

[teko]

I gave up on mine, and traded them for some good old BH5.. Seemmed like it might have been my Winnie or Mobo that didn't liked them..

[WOLF_OF_DK]

I gave up on mine, and traded them for some good old BH5.. Seemmed like it might have been my Winnie or Mobo that didn't liked them..

did it help changing to the old ones ?