G.Skill 2GBZX DDR400 2-3-2-5 Test

[G.S Technician]

Due to the recent infineon chip is not good overclock. the max overclock is drop back to around 230~240
2/15/06

2GBZX had been sell for a few weeks.
i never have time to test it. Finally today i took a few hours and played around this low price value 2GB ram. the result i think is very good for such price.

SPEC and Place to buy can check in our G.Skill XS area
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77193

look at some pics first

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/100_3485.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/100_3486.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/100_3487.JPG


2-3-2-5
http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_200_2325_01.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_210_2325_01.JPG

2.5-3-2-5
http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_235_25325_01.JPG

3-3-2-5
http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_260_3325_01.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_260_3325_02.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_270_3325_01.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_270_3325_02.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_272_3325_01.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_272_3325_02.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_272_3325_03.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_272_3325_04.JPG

for 3Dmark05 need to lower to DDR524 to run it
http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_9_mark_01.JPG

[G.S Technician]

bios setup for DDR540

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/100_3481.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/100_3482.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/100_3483.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/100_3484.JPG

[bachus_anonym]

Wait a minute....

26x-27ish 5-2-3-3.0 for $221 ??? Wow :) Any idea on what the average/typical OC could be for that line?

[shuRe]

noice, now lets see what it can do with 3-3-3-5

please..... :)

[G.S Technician]

i think it max out avg is 260 +- 5
cuz i just picked two kit from 50+ of them, one does DDR510~DDR520, abd this one does much better than other

[G.S Technician]

noice, now lets see what it can do with 3-3-3-5

please..... :)


i tryed it before and it doesn't help to OC.

[mag|c]

sweet review G.S. Tech :slobber: could you tell me witch chips on these sticks?

[infiniti029]

can i trade in my gskill 2gb pc4000 for these? cuz mine are duds that can't OC past 255 :(

[georgesod]

How about some test with intel?

[Dave_Sz]

I think I'm byuing this set as soon as newegg has them in stock? Was this an off the shelf pair or is it one of those super dooper sets that the people at g.skill picked for you?

[gocchin]

I think I'm byuing this set as soon as newegg has them in stock? Was this an off the shelf pair or is it one of those super dooper sets that the people at g.skill picked for you?

i think it max out avg is 260 +- 5
cuz i just picked two kit from 50+ of them, one does DDR510~DDR520, abd this one does much better than other

He himself is one of the people at g.skill and as he said he picked two kits out of 50+ and this one does better than the other.... Nice results at a very nice price!!! :toast:

[uOpt]

So what is the difference to F1-3200BIU2-2GBHX?

Both PC3200 and same timings unless newegg has a typo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231034

[Dave_Sz]

Only thing I see is that one has a Z and the other an H. Since Z is later in the alphabet that H, I'm gonna take that one. Kidding, kidding, I'd like to know as well why one is $50 mor ethan the other?

[rancid]

So what is the difference to F1-3200BIU2-2GBHX?

Both PC3200 and same timings unless newegg has a typo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231034

I made a seperate post about this, can the G.Skill rep please comment on this? I want to order some ram today!! :p:

[G.S Technician]

man, LA is a bit cold today.

2GBHX is our another item. it price is higher than HS, HZ, and ZX. be sure order the right. the chip, i don't want to say i don't know, but i can't tell due to my business contract. I think 2GBZX max at 260 +- 5 but that just my thought. but i had heard from my friends said that 2 of his set, 1 OC to 262 and 1 only OC to 248.
remember i picked 2 sets too. 1 of the set does 251. so i took the avg is around 260+-5 or 248~270. it is a big range.
however, the price for 2GBZX is much much lower than anyother OC-able 2GB kit.
compare with 250+ from our other products and 300+ from other companies.

[G.S Technician]

also i am sorry i don't have intel's mobo. g.skill tw hasn't mail me one yet!
i want a DDR2 and DDR intel mobo too

[Dave_Sz]

These have been out a month or so right? The weird thing that 2 or 3 days ago I saw the kit on newegg, or at least I thought I did, and a few hours later it was gone and it wasn't listed as out of stock either, the single 1gb sticks are. The kit was for $221 I believe and the singles are $117. Any clue as to who else sells these?

[aicjofs]

Your not crazy. I saw it day before yesterday and was waiting till payday on Friday to buy. They completely vanished without a trace. It was $221.

[rancid]

I went to get a set as well and its gone :( The single sticks are OOS as well. Send Newegg some more ram G.Skill! :) I am waiting for a review of the $275 set.

[G.S Technician]

:) another shipment was done on tuesday, i think they will has it in a day or two
HX is working on it. sry i am also busy on other office work :(

[rancid]

:) another shipment was done on tuesday, i think they will has it in a day or two
HX is working on it. sry i am also busy on other office work :(

The fact you actually reply every day is great. I will buy G.Skill just because of the support! :toast: :cool:

[quent]

Hello :)

Alice sent me GBZX yesterday by fed-ex, i'll make a test during the week-end.

What are the chips ont this Modules ?

G.skill rocks :banana:

[G.S Technician]

Hello :)

Alice sent me GBZX yesterday by fed-ex, i'll make a test during the week-end.

What are the chips ont this Modules ?

G.skill rocks :banana:

:)

waiting for your result

I can't say the IC due to my business contract, sorry

:)

[G.S Technician]

i just try 4 dimm 2T @ DDR520 3-2-3-5

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_260_3235_2T_01.JPG

[Dave_Sz]

Between the HS, HZ, and ZX, which 2gb set would you suggest for someone who wants to run them at around 245 won a divider? For someone looking for the highest overclock from them? I'm leaning towards the ZX at the moment.

[Stoner@Large]

I believe these ic's are Infineon be-6's. They seem to act identical to mine. Great memory might I add.

[tomati]

Between the HS, HZ, and ZX, which 2gb set would you suggest for someone who wants to run them at around 245 won a divider? For someone looking for the highest overclock from them? I'm leaning towards the ZX at the moment.

I'm looking for the same range of perf , and I think this 2g GBZX is the winner , low cost for good perf , all that I want.

[Stoner@Large]

Heres what im getting with them, I actually got the timings a little tighter and a higher pi but cant find the pic

http://home.comcast.net/~thinkblaze/254_2gig_3.05ghz.JPG

[Dave_Sz]

It's in stock again, I just ordered mine minutes ago.

[rancid]

It's in stock again, I just ordered mine minutes ago.

OH MY GOD, its OOS again. They must of got like 2 kits :( Im sad, I was set on ordering some. :mad:

[uOpt]

Why would I choose this set over the DDR500? The DDR500 will give me the same timing at DDR400, in all likelyhood, and it is only $20 more.

[flutie98]

OH MY GOD, its OOS again. They must of got like 2 kits :( Im sad, I was set on ordering some. :mad:


me too, i got the order page as my homepage now cant wait

[perkam]

Holy shoot !!! That's 7.5k bandwith for something that's supposed to be gskill's value line !!!

Nice.

Perkam

[G.S Technician]

Heres what im getting with them, I actually got the timings a little tighter and a higher pi but cant find the pic




mine can't not do 500 CL2.5 :(
u got a better one :)


i think Newegg will got another shipment by today, i hope.....

[Dave_Sz]

nope, they have an ETA of 10/25, so that's tuesday. Also, how come they have the mem rated at 2-3-3-6 now? It was at 2-3-2-5.

[G.S Technician]

it should be 2-3-2-5
i will inform this to them

[uOpt]

If you look you will see that the 1x 1 GB single module ZX has the correct timings. It is the 2x 1 GB kit of the same modules which has the incorrect ones.

What's up with the sticks with much worse timings being only $2 cheaper? Doesn't make any sense.

Not to mention the HX prices which make even less sense.

Somebody needs to do some cleanup there :)

[G.S Technician]

don't worry, they were few wrong sticker 2GBZX i sent to newegg b4, and those were recall it. all 2GBZX is rate @ 2-3-2-5, not 2-3-3-6

[Rabbi_NZ]

Could you post some tests for the HX series please?

[flutie98]

BACK IN STOCK AT THE EGG

grabbed a kit :D

[Dave_Sz]

I think the 2 kits we got were RMA returns, maybe not. I just saw that they still have them for sale.

[flutie98]

I think the 2 kits we got were RMA returns, maybe not. I just saw that they still have them for sale.


I hope Mine isnt an RMA return....

[G.S Technician]

I think the 2 kits we got were RMA returns, maybe not. I just saw that they still have them for sale.

newegg does that?? newegg rma return should ship back to taiwan or me. if you think you got the rma return let me know

[G.S Technician]

Yesterday my 146 became wried, and i think i need to a full test on 2GBZX


for 3G 200*15 DDR400 2-3-2-6, it is 5ns/5ns :)

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_200_01.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_200_02.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_200_03.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_200_04.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_200_05.JPG

[G.S Technician]

for 3G 214*14 DDR428 2-3-2-5 6ns/5ns


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_214_01.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_214_02.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_214_03.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_214_04.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_214_05.JPG

[G.S Technician]

for 3G 231*13 DDR462 2.5-3-2-5 6ns/5ns

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_231_01.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_231_02.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_231_03.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_231_04.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_231_05.JPG

[G.S Technician]

for 3G 250*12 DDR500 3-3-2-5 6ns/5ns :)


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_250_01.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_250_02.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_250_03.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_250_04.JPG


http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_250_05.JPG



tomorrow i will do DDR500+ with more tests

[Dave_Sz]

Wow, that's nice. Are they stable at 2-2-2-5? Try it at 8ns/5-6ns.

[rancid]

I picked up a set from Newegg yesterday! I will post my results with the ABIT-AN8 Fatality. Needless to say if I can't get 1T I am selling this POS board!!!

[DocGiggs]

how do the HS do?

[G.S Technician]

Wow, that's nice. Are they stable at 2-2-2-5? Try it at 8ns/5-6ns.

i will try it today :)

show do the HS do?

i think kakaroto done some test on HS before, i will do it later i believe. so busy, Newegg places a lot of order on 2GBZX today

[DocGiggs]

the 2GBZX is back in stock at the egg as of this very moment. Pulled the trigger and ordered some.

[[XC] Jaco]

Yesterday my 146 became wried, and i think i need to a full test on 2GBZX


for 3G 200*15 DDR400 2-3-2-6, it is 5ns/5ns :)

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2GBZX_fulltest_200_01.JPG


how do you get a 15 multi with an opteron 146?

[G.S Technician]

the 2GBZX is back in stock at the egg as of this very moment. Pulled the trigger and ordered some.

today i will personally ship 30 pairs to CA LA's warehouse and ship out another 30 pairs to NJ's warehouse, so will be back to stock soon

[DocGiggs]

I saw the older benchies by Kakaroto on the HS sticks.. those are listed in that thread as samsung UCCC as well. These are infenon ce-6's right? Hrmm. Both the HS and ZX are comparable in price but I went with the ZX's. Hope I made the right choice :)

[G.S Technician]

all morning i am doing this.......
memtest test forever......

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2721zx.JPG

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBZX/2722zx.JPG


i get to say this one is above the average, maybe 1 out of 5, i tested total 5 pairs, average is around 260+-5 3-3-2-5, for $220- 2GB kit, it is very good.

[aicjofs]

I asked in the Gskill forum but no one answered.

What is the difference between HX and ZX?

[Dave_Sz]

I only need mine to do 246mhz, but If they do 270 and my CPU can handle it on the 183 divider, that will be awesome. We'll I get them tomorrow so I'll be tweaking like a mofo.

[DocGiggs]

I asked in the Gskill forum but no one answered.

What is the difference between HX and ZX?

H series I think uses Samsung UCCC modules while the Z series uses Infenon CE-6 modules.

The second letter is their speed binned rating I think.

[quent]

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/516/gbzx2705tw.png

For test, no difference between 3/4/4/8 and 3/3/2/5 :confused:

Edit : I don't know why, but HX is wrote on CPU-Z information, ZX is wrote on Heatspreader :stick:

[G.S Technician]

I asked in the Gskill forum but no one answered.

What is the difference between HX and ZX?


price is much different :)
i will tell you all, HX is not super good on OC
but 250 2.5-3-2-5 is very easy for HX

I only need mine to do 246mhz, but If they do 270 and my CPU can handle it on the 183 divider, that will be awesome. We'll I get them tomorrow so I'll be tweaking like a mofo.

i said 246 should be ok for most the ZX

[G.S Technician]

For test, no difference between 3/4/4/8 and 3/3/2/5 :confused:

Edit : I don't know why, but HX is wrote on CPU-Z information, ZX is wrote on Heatspreader :stick:


it is very good result
i think they somehow burnt SPD wrong for 100+ kits....
not really matter, heheeee 210 -> 270 XD
i will inform taiwan tonight :)

[quent]

Ok, HX is better than ZX ?

[G.S Technician]

Ok, HX is better than ZX ?

that was my typo, HX is not a super easy OC ram
but its chip is ,uch more expensive :)

[Stoner@Large]

the ce-6 can go alot higher than 260 at loose timings. its got to be a B version.

[quent]

that was my typo, HX is not a super easy OC ram
but its chip is ,uch more expensive :)

ok, what was the better voltage for your modules ? Can I put more than 3.2v ?

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/2364/timingd6bm.png

I'll use these timings, are they good you think ?

[Dave_Sz]

Well, my ram seems to suck, terribly.

[G.S Technician]

Well, my ram seems to suck, terribly.


what happened?

[Dave_Sz]

It can't do 246 at 3-3-3-8, 2.8v, 9ns/7ns. Maybe I should try less voltage?
at stock it's ok with 2-3-2-5 7ns/5ns. I'll tinker with it. I tried your settings that you used at 250 and they didn't work either.

[Dave_Sz]

Also I think I was right about the RMA thing, these had fingerprints on tem and a scratch or two.

[G.S Technician]

It can't do 246 at 3-3-3-8, 2.8v, 9ns/7ns. Maybe I should try less voltage?
at stock it's ok with 2-3-2-5 7ns/5ns. I'll tinker with it. I tried your settings that you used at 250 and they didn't work either.

that is kinda weird, i use 702-1 bios. it seem fine to me.
try 200 2-3-2-5 2.7v 6ns 5ns level 7 / 3
let me know. i will check here every 10 mins

[G.S Technician]

Also I think I was right about the RMA thing, these had fingerprints on tem and a scratch or two.

show me some pictures, i might need to talk to reseller.

[Dave_Sz]

Pictures of scratches?
I'll post them up later if you don't mind. I'm going to start at 200mhz and work my way up for now. I should be using 7/3 for strengths?

Do you use yellow or orange slots?

[G.S Technician]

Pictures of scratches?
I'll post them up later if you don't mind. I'm going to start at 200mhz and work my way up for now. I should be using 7/3 for trengths?

yea 7/3 works best for all my ram, but it might be different for yours. however i will try 7/3 1st.

scratches pics might helps me to talk to reseller

[G.S Technician]

my msn is us.gskill.tech@gmail.com
welcome for anyone to join for "help" only please

[Dave_Sz]

Ok, I'll get the pics in a few minutes. Which color mem slots do you use, orange or yellow, or does it not matter. I have the 704-2bta bios.

[G.S Technician]

Ok, I'll get the pics in a few minutes. Which color mem slots do you use, orange or yellow, or does it not matter. I have the 704-2bta bios.

i use orange
it has more c-vitamin. just kidding! :)

[Dave_Sz]

So I tried to run it 2-2-2-5 and no video came on. There was only one red LED lit which means everything is fine, but no video came on, hmmm.

Also, compared to my old 2x512 kit, this ram has much less bandwidth and more latency at the same speeds as the other set. Is his the norm for 2gb sets? At 2-3-2-5 I'm getting 4800mb read and 2000 write whee my old kit was about 6000/2500.

[G.S Technician]

no 2-2-2-5, only 2-3-2-5 will work
and it should be 6000/2500 around there, but need to check your cpu speed too

[Dave_Sz]

Duuuuuh, I'm running it at 1600mhz. I didn't think that would matter in a memory bandwidth benchmark.
Also I see that you smartguardian says you have 2.89v on the mem which is really more like 2.95. Did you notice if more volts let you OC higher?

[G.S Technician]

it well matter but not too much :)

[G.S Technician]

ok, what was the better voltage for your modules ? Can I put more than 3.2v ?

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/2364/timingd6bm.png

I'll use these timings, are they good you think ?

i am sorry i forget to answer your question

i think the max volt is around 2.9~2.93, i did try 3v and it get worse.
trcd i think 3 or 4 will ok. 2 is not going to wrok.
other looks good to me

[Micha]

Hej :)

After reading this post I've decided to give G.Skill a try. I've ordered 2GB ZX and hope to get ~240 MHz 2.5-3-2-8 T1 :banana: with ~2.75V on X2 4200+. I'will post my results as soon as I get my RAM. Or should I exchange my kit for HX???

Pawel

[G.S Technician]

i think HX is good too but just price too high compare with 2gbzx

[Dave_Sz]

so here

[Micha]

Thats why I decided to try ZX first :) 225$ for 2GB if I reach that speed would make me extreme happy :D

BTW - great job here. If not this forum I would never buy G.Skill :toast:

Pawel

[G.S Technician]

so here

hum is it on DDR400?
and level is 2 4 6 8? which one

[Dave_Sz]

Yep, I have my cpu running 230x8 and this is running 1:1 with 7/3 as you recommended.
Ok, now those settings don't boot anymore.

[G.S Technician]

it show normal on the a64, if it is level 7 should be weak

[Dave_Sz]

Yeah, you're right. Ok, I'm trying 210 now at 3-3-3-8.

[Dave_Sz]

This is why I think it's either an RMA set or a refurb. After I paid for it, on the invoice it said f13200phu2-2gbzx R. Now, at first I thought it stood for retail but the next day I went back, the memory was out of stock and the R was gone. It didn't say R anywhere until I paid for it, then the R shows up and it's also on the invoice that came with the package.

[G.S Technician]

This is why I think it's either an RMA set or a refurb. After I paid for it, on the invoice it said f13200phu2-2gbzx R. Now, at first I thought it stood for retail but the next day I went back, the memory was out of stock and the R was gone. It didn't say R anywhere until I paid for it, then the R shows up and it's also on the invoice that came with the package.

i will call reseller today and ask about this`

[flutie98]

ups will be delivering mine tomorrow, ill let you know if they are RMAed ones from newegg. i have an R on the end of my invoice as as well

honestly im gonna be a little pissed if they are

[quent]

Hej :)

After reading this post I've decided to give G.Skill a try. I've ordered 2GB ZX and hope to get ~240 MHz 2.5-3-2-8 T1 :banana: with ~2.75V on X2 4200+. I'will post my results as soon as I get my RAM. Or should I exchange my kit for HX???

Pawel

I have 230Mhz on 2.5-4-3-5 1T

[uOpt]

They will not be RMA returns.

The only way to get used parts for new is when you order a complete but non-retail PC at a smelly shop around the corner.

[Dave_Sz]

Newegg sells their RMA'd DFI boards as refurbs, maybe other brands too, if they find there is nothing wrong with them. Why wouldn't they do that with ram and maybe not let people know?

[Micha]

I have 230Mhz on 2.5-4-3-5 1T

It won't work for me... If I cant reach 235-240 at CAS 2.5, I'm selling this memory and going OCZ Platinum 4000 EB, but I still hope it can be done with G.Skill as it would save me 100$ :p:

GS Technician - in case of failure is there a chance to exchange my ZX kit for HX if I cover price difference???

Thanks

Pawel

[Stoner@Large]

thats not a very fair question. If they were guarenteed they would be called ddr500 or whatever. There only rated to 400, if they do that then there is no reason to rma. No overclock is guranteed. These kind of questions and reaction are what got duaonger of mushkin in trouble. Please stay clear of getting the reps in trouble. they are here to inform us, just be glad he can show us that they can overclock at all.

[quent]

It won't work for me... If I cant reach 235-240 at CAS 2.5, I'm selling this memory and going OCZ Platinum 4000 EB, but I still hope it can be done with G.Skill as it would save me 100$ :p:

GS Technician - in case of failure is there a chance to exchange my ZX kit for HX if I cover price difference???

Thanks

Pawel

goodluck :rolleyes:

[gundamit]

how do you get a 15 multi with an opteron 146? Can't believe this question hasn't been asked a little louder. How in the name of the OC gods did you get the multi to 15 on an Opteron 146? Maybe I just haven't been paying attention but as far as I know the multi is locked going up.

[i found nemo]

Can't believe this question hasn't been asked a little louder. How in the name of the OC gods did you get the multi to 15 on an Opteron 146? Maybe I just haven't been paying attention but as far as I know the multi is locked going up.


yea how'd you do that


btw check out my ch-5 :D

[G.S Technician]

It won't work for me... If I cant reach 235-240 at CAS 2.5, I'm selling this memory and going OCZ Platinum 4000 EB, but I still hope it can be done with G.Skill as it would save me 100$

GS Technician - in case of failure is there a chance to exchange my ZX kit for HX if I cover price difference???

Thanks

Pawel

i am really sorry that i can't do this for anyone :)
i can suggest you to buy 2GBHX since it has "better chance" to work 2.5-3-2-5 @ 500 but i don't guarentee it.


thats not a very fair question. If they were guarenteed they would be called ddr500 or whatever. There only rated to 400, if they do that then there is no reason to rma. No overclock is guranteed. These kind of questions and reaction are what got duaonger of mushkin in trouble. Please stay clear of getting the reps in trouble. they are here to inform us, just be glad he can show us that they can overclock at all.

that's right :)

Can't believe this question hasn't been asked a little louder. How in the name of the OC gods did you get the multi to 15 on an Opteron 146? Maybe I just haven't been paying attention but as far as I know the multi is locked going up.

i think i damage it while i am clear my bios. it happened last sunday. i am :slobber: when i went into bios too

[Micha]

thats not a very fair question. If they were guarenteed they would be called ddr500 or whatever. There only rated to 400, if they do that then there is no reason to rma. No overclock is guranteed. These kind of questions and reaction are what got duaonger of mushkin in trouble. Please stay clear of getting the reps in trouble. they are here to inform us, just be glad he can show us that they can overclock at all.

Sorry for mu english :slap: . I formed my question wrong way I assume... To be clear, I was asking Technician if G.Skill has a kit that is able to do my desired timings. Simply if I should try HX in case ZX wouldn't work for me, and if HX overclock better...

Anyway it seems from fedex tracking that my kit is going to be here on friday :banana: . I will post my results

[MonkSP]

i think i damage it while i am clear my bios. it happened last sunday. i am :slobber: when i went into bios too

So what did you do to your BIOS? Tell us how you did proceed.

[G.S Technician]

Sorry for mu english :slap: . I formed my question wrong way I assume... To be clear, I was asking Technician if G.Skill has a kit that is able to do my desired timings. Simply if I should try HX in case ZX wouldn't work for me, and if HX overclock better...

Anyway it seems from fedex tracking that my kit is going to be here on friday :banana: . I will post my results

it is hard for me to tell you which one can do DDR500 2.5 :), even 90% of HX can do it, but it is not rated and 500 and there is chance that can't do it.
i am really sorry.

[G.S Technician]

So what did you do to your BIOS? Tell us how you did proceed.

i was testing 1GBFX and then i switch to 2GBHZ. clear the bios, turn on the power, and it happened when i wnet it to bios.

[grozni]

Some pics for HX would be nice. If I could reach 250 on cas 2.5, that would be great

[G.S Technician]

Some pics for HX would be nice. If I could reach 250 on cas 2.5, that would be great

ok i will post it later

my 32M 2GBHX is runing now
2.5-3-2-5-7-13-2-2-1-2-7ns-5ns-DC Enable-16cycle-16X-7X @ DDR500 * 12 3G

2.8v

will shows some picture when it finish

[gundamit]

i was testing 1GBFX and then i switch to 2GBHZ. clear the bios, turn on the power, and it happened when i wnet it to bios. You have PM. :)

[G.S Technician]

becasue this is ZX thread, so my 32M HX result only use a link

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/2GBHX/2GBHX25025325_05.JPG

i might test another pair later

[grozni]

my 32M 2GBHX is runing now
2.5-3-2-5-7-13-2-2-1-2-7ns-5ns-DC Enable-16cycle-16X-7X @ DDR500 * 12 3G

2.8v

will shows some picture when it finish


That is great.......

[G.S Technician]

i am trying another pair now. 32M start same setting, but no all kinds of cpuz,a64 while pi is runing and the time is goes faster

[grozni]

i might test another pair later


If you do please post a link with picture or maybe you want to open new thread, I guess there are many who wants to see BHX also......

[G.S Technician]

i posted the link on top

another pair of 32M finish with real time 24M10S
but i am not happy since it is much more expensive than zx

now i am doing real time 2.5-3-2-0-7-12-6ns-5ns-16cycle- DC enable-16x-7x too see how is will go

[michaels]

it is hard for me to tell you which one can do DDR500 2.5 :), even 90% of HX can do it, but it is not rated and 500 and there is chance that can't do it.
i am really sorry.


HX is UCCC and ZX is Infenon. Confirmed with Taiwan. So I went for HX. :)

[G.S Technician]

HX is UCCC and ZX is Infenon. Confirmed with Taiwan. So I went for HX. :)

HX is not UCCC. only HZ HS is UCCC.

for HX and ZX due to my contract i can't talk anything about it

[michaels]

HX is not UCCC. only HZ HS is UCCC.

for HX and ZX due to my contract i can't talk anything about it

Oh, NO. :confused: I love UCCC's super low voltage.
Anyway, HX meets my target of 240MHz at 2.5C while ZX doesn't.

BTW, did you talk with newegg about the "R" showed up during check-out? Is that "RMAed"? :) I got that, too, on HX.

[G.S Technician]

Oh, NO. :confused: I love UCCC's super low voltage.
Anyway, HX meets my target of 240MHz at 2.5C while ZX doesn't.

BTW, did you talk with newegg about the "R" showed up during check-out? Is that "RMAed"? :) I got that, too, on HX.

i have no chance to talk to them but i will

and i don't think it is RMA anymore cuz the order list from them has R in the back also, i have no idea what is that R stand for.

[quent]

I'm goig to remove heatspreader, i'll let you know soon.

[rancid]

I just got my ram in and as promised here are my results with this fantastic ram:

http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill8wj.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill20ad.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill32jd.jpg

No I am not going to set any world records, but anybody that knows the ABIT AN8 knows this board has MASSIVE 1T problems with 1GB sticks. The Gskill works flawlessly (knock on wood) with the AN8 and I even got my overclock back (had to go to 245 HTT with Crucial Ballistix at 2T)

So overall results: I can run this ram 1T, I got back my 5mhz switching to 1GB sticks, and I have yet to really push this ram. I could get it to run 2.5-3-3-8 1T timings @ 250mhz, but it was not benchable. I will continue to see what I can get out these little guys.

Thanks Gskill, and pass the word, this ram works with ABIT's POS motherboard!!!!! :toast: :woot:

[aicjofs]

RAM voltage is stock I assume? Looking good, the egg hosed my order, so hopefully I will have mine next Monday. Looking forward to it.

[rancid]

It can easily do it on 2.6V, but I bumped it to 2.8V b/c I do a lot of gaming and don't want to risk instability at any time.

[Micha]

BTW, did you talk with newegg about the "R" showed up during check-out? Is that "RMAed"? :) I got that, too, on HX.

I'm obviously not GS-Technician, but no - R from newegg comes from Retail :p:

Rancid - thats great news for me :banana: , could you tell me how high you can run them at CAS 2.5?

Pawel

[rancid]

Mine has "R" on the invoice too and I placed my order on the 25th when they were OOS that previous week. I inspected my sticks thoroughly and saw no signs of usage.

I will let you know Micha, I am almost scared to mess with it because I have been playing FEAR and Quake 4 all night without any problems! God its nice to be back to 1T :) I saw no noticable improvement in my benchmark scores (same as the ballistix at 2T) but I can tell you maps load a ton faster now which is great.

[flutie98]

well mine came today and are doing alright, they are brand new not RMA and have the right timmings on the sticker

i had them stable at 3-3-2-5 @ ddr500 with cpu @10*250 1:1

but the second i went to put my cpu clock back up to 2.7 and put them on the */11 divider they wouldnt post

so i dropped the divider to the next one down 166 i believe and ran 300*9 on the cpu to put the ram at the same speed 245mhz, and its stable but only at 3-3-3-5, id really love to get that trp down but i just cant get it stable

any suggestions?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/flutie98/245.jpg

[DocGiggs]

Memory controller issue?

[G.S Technician]

it looks like memory controler's problem. 1:1 is good but 188 doesn't. it could be CPU issues

well mine came today and are doing alright, they are brand new not RMA and have the right timmings on the sticker

i had them stable at 3-3-2-5 @ ddr500 with cpu @10*250 1:1

but the second i went to put my cpu clock back up to 2.7 and put them on the */11 divider they wouldnt post

so i dropped the divider to the next one down 166 i believe and ran 300*9 on the cpu to put the ram at the same speed 245mhz, and its stable but only at 3-3-3-5, id really love to get that trp down but i just cant get it stable

any suggestions?

[flutie98]

yeah thats what i was thinking, but its still wierd that it could push my tccd to 275 no probs, i guess it just doesnt have enough Drive strength to push the densities of 2gb

[Dave_Sz]

Try to raise either max async or read preamble and the lower the trp, maybe try trrd at 3.
I just tried to run mine at 220 with 3-4-4-8 with async and preamble on auto, got errors after 25 minutes of prime. Good news though is that I went back to the 623-3 bios and my old ram is running 270 with the same timings it ran 245 on the 2bta bios.

[SaFrOuT]

so to be clear this is the kit from newegg that this thread is talking about for 221$ only ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231032

[Dave_Sz]

Yep, that's it.

[Holst]

I just ordered a set of these.

Im going to be using them with my 754 newark.

has anybody used these rams with a 754 system?

Or am I going to be the first.

CPU currently runs 2.8gig so ideally I want to be able to run 280x10 ... I think this might be pushing it a bit. But we shall see.

[Dave_Sz]

I'm gonna say that 280 is not gonna happen, never. If you want 280 you should've went with HZ.

[Stoner@Large]

yeah with this set of ram, 260 is lucky. take his advise ^^^

[Plywood99]

Just ordered a set myself. Finally getting rid of this 4x512 crap ram I have on my Opty 148...

[trza2k]

Well i just bought a 2GBZX kit and i'm getting no where at all. I cannot even boot windows in anything higher then 215mhz. I have tried this on 4 different motherboards with various settings and one of them the DFI one was running OCZ EB @ 280mhz, so mobos wasnt the issue. I also noticed there was no heatspreader on the ram i bought, is there supposed to be? I will talk to my retailer tomorrow about this.

Here is a pic of the ram:
http://www.linuxisbest.com/gskill.jpg

[JCGhz]

which bios are you using with these??? assuming your using a DFI LP

[Dave_Sz]

Uh, why doesn't your ram have the heatspreader on? Are those hynix d-5 chips? I want c-5 or c-6.

[trza2k]

Ive got no idea on why no heatspreader? Also i just set the bios to "auto" for the ram settings and it is using DDR400 with 2.5/3/3/5 for some reason. Anyway i have arranged a refund of these now.

[Dave_Sz]

Why, you have no grounds for a refund. If you're returning them cause you can't OC them, you sir, suck. I RMA'ed mine but only cause they were funky at 2-3-2-5 with everything else as loose and as tight as I could with everything in between.

[trza2k]

I'm refunding because the retailer claimed they could do DDR500 at loose timing and DDR480 at somewhat tight timings. Now im simply not getting that on 4 boards that are overclocking ram just fine. The fact that they dont have heat spreaders and dont seem to set there own auto SPD properly is also suspect. I believe i have every right for a refund sir.

[aicjofs]

Maybe GSTech can enlighten us on TRZA's sticks there. Why no heatspreader? Seems like a legit return to me. (of course I don't know the whole story of how he got these sticks) Especially since the are advertized on GSkill website with heatspreaders.

What I think is funny is the sticker on the bare RAM. Don't remove or void warranty. The secret to these sticks are under those 3 chips. LOL :stick: :p:

Mine should be here today. :clap:

[G.S Technician]

just back to work, monday :) ; a lot of emails and questions need to reply. monday also busy, hehee. 1st, all U.S 2GBZX should have heatspreader. since i am working at warehouse to all U.S resellers. i havn't see any 2GBZX without it.

[Dave_Sz]

I'm refunding because the retailer claimed they could do DDR500 at loose timing and DDR480 at somewhat tight timings. Now im simply not getting that on 4 boards that are overclocking ram just fine. The fact that they dont have heat spreaders and dont seem to set there own auto SPD properly is also suspect. I believe i have every right for a refund sir.

Which retailer claims that? These are only ddr400 sticks, they are only guaranteed to do ddr400. If the retailer claimed they will do ddr500 then you HAVE TO return them, if he said they SHOULD do ddr500 then I don't see how that merrits a RMA. Do you live in the US? The chip that is visible says ZX on it so...

[aicjofs]

:) :) :)

Awesome stuff, well worth the 2 weeks I have been trying to get it here.

Mine seems to top out at 265Mhz 3-3-2-5, voltage at 2.6v since upping it seemed to make no difference. Since my Opteron 144 seems to top out at 2800Mhz with poor cooling, I am using 255Mhz though. This is on a Neo4 SLI.

All I can say is wow. Gskill :toast: to you!

[aicjofs]

Here's 255Mhz, need to get a few more Mhz's out of this CPU to max the memory out...

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/gskill.jpg

[JCGhz]

so to be clear this is the kit from newegg that this thread is talking about for 221$ only ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231032


little odd that the pic of the ram cleary reads 2-3-3-6 on the labels of both sticks but in the specs it says 2-3-2-5. ooops

[G.S Technician]

little odd that the pic of the ram cleary reads 2-3-3-6 on the labels of both sticks but in the specs it says 2-3-2-5. ooops

i did clear of this before. there was few mistake kits went up to market and we recalled it.

all the kits that sell in the market are rated at 400 2-3-2-5
don't worry about it :)

[JCGhz]

i did clear of this before. there was few mistake kits went up to market and we recalled it.

all the kits that sell in the market are rated at 400 2-3-2-5
don't worry about it :)


Good to know.. what bios did you use to test this ram???

[perithimus]

How would these run on a 166 divider. I am thinking about ordering a set tomorrow. Also how easy is this ram to configure with the DFI NF4 motherboard? I had the OCZ VX and had a hell of a time getting that to work right.

[SaFrOuT]

just ordered mine 5 min ago, it will be here in Egypt starting from 7~12 days

wish me luck

[Freez]

How would these run on a 166 divider. I am thinking about ordering a set tomorrow. Also how easy is this ram to configure with the DFI NF4 motherboard? I had the OCZ VX and had a hell of a time getting that to work right.

Those are quite a pain. I ordered myself a set of ZX last night, cant wait to start oc'ing them; maybe my cpu overclock will actually hit anything aboce 2.5 stable. What BIOS have you buys been using with this set?

[craptacular]

Those are quite a pain. I ordered myself a set of ZX last night, cant wait to start oc'ing them; maybe my cpu overclock will actually hit anything aboce 2.5 stable. What BIOS have you buys been using with this set?

Hope you got in on the sale price at Newegg.

Link to ZX sale at Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231032)

Not a huge difference, but hey- 8 bucks is 8 bucks. ;)

[aicjofs]

Hope you got in on the sale price at Newegg.

Link to ZX sale at Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231032)

Not a huge difference, but hey- 8 bucks is 8 bucks. ;)

*sigh* Damn Newegg... :rolleyes: throws sale in after I buy mine. Oh Well :)

A great deal, gets even better!

[G.S Technician]

i will try 166 today or next week. let you guys know soon. :)

NewEgg drops the price! i have no idea why. the price is setup by resellers. i have no control of that :)

[uOpt]

Can you please clarify something, quotes from this thread:

i am really sorry that i can't do this for anyone :)
i can suggest you to buy 2GBHX since it has "better chance" to work 2.5-3-2-5 @ 500 but i don't guarentee it.




Originally Posted by aicjofs
I asked in the Gskill forum but no one answered.

What is the difference between HX and ZX?




price is much different
i will tell you all, HX is not super good on OC
but 250 2.5-3-2-5 is very easy for HX



Ok, HX is better than ZX ?


that was my typo, HX is not a super easy OC ram
but its chip is ,uch more expensive



So, what was the typo?

You say HX doesn't overclock well but I'd say 200 to 250 MHz at that timing is a good overclock.

[G.S Technician]

2GBHX is not easy OC over 251+ but for 250 CL2.5 has more chance to do it. and will not do CL3 stable

on the other hand 2GBZX has chance to do 250~260+ with CL3

remember both rated at DDR400, if it can OC is good. no guarantee on OC ability

Can you please clarify something, quotes from this thread:








So, what was the typo?

You say HX doesn't overclock well but I'd say 200 to 250 MHz at that timing is a good overclock.

[revlimit]

Does anyone know of a site to get this in the US besides Newegg? I want to avoid paying sales tax.

[geforce man]

got mine in yesterday, chillin @ 240 1:1 3-3-2-7-1t, it seems to be maxing out there, but i suppose could be a memory controller issue, either way i dont care, my 3200+ winny @ 240 1:1 is faster than @ 255 on a 166 divider, which is what i was running with my crucial value ram 2x1gb. so for 224.xx$ shipped to my house, im happy :)

[G.S Technician]

I am happy to see this :)

got mine in yesterday, chillin @ 240 1:1 3-3-2-7-1t, it seems to be maxing out there, but i suppose could be a memory controller issue, either way i dont care, my 3200+ winny @ 240 1:1 is faster than @ 255 on a 166 divider, which is what i was running with my crucial value ram 2x1gb. so for 224.xx$ shipped to my house, im happy :)

[Dave_Sz]

got mine in yesterday, chillin @ 240 1:1 3-3-2-7-1t, it seems to be maxing out there, but i suppose could be a memory controller issue, either way i dont care, my 3200+ winny @ 240 1:1 is faster than @ 255 on a 166 divider, which is what i was running with my crucial value ram 2x1gb. so for 224.xx$ shipped to my house, im happy :)


Wait, so you're saying that your system is faster at 2400mhz than it was at 2550mhz? How is that possible? Faster according to what?

[geforce man]

according to all benches, @ 2550, it was running memory @ 255 on a 166 divider, making the ram around 212Mhz, @ 240, its running 240 1:1, and overall it has made my system faster. 3dmark 2k1 shows improvement of 100 points @ this setting, and 2k3 is about the same as well (+/- 20 pts) so yea, i like it :). im in windows now with it @ 245, i think the mem controller, while able to handle 512 sticks @ fairly high FSB is having trouble with these, they dont seem to want to go very high, i dont know if its mem or board or cpu TBH tho, but i still stand by being happy with 240 (for sure 24/7 stable) @ 224.xx$ shipped :)

[dimasdw]

got ZX this Evening..and this my First Test ^_^

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4969/260x10zx32pi7vi.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=260x10zx32pi7vi.jpg)
What the Vddr limit for this Ram ,is Ok to give 3.0 V and Up Volt ?
are this Ram need Cooler Fan ?

[Vapor]

Don't give it more than 3V....in most cases performance deteriorates above 2.9V anyway.

[kido]

look at this...

http://bbs.argstorm.com/UploadFile/200511120123027257.jpg

http://bbs.argstorm.com/UploadFile/200511120115615299.jpg

the mosel chip:

http://bbs.gzeshop.com/attachments/forumid_23/Mosel-5B-SIDE_IBtMvqt4c7Js.jpg

http://bbs.gzeshop.com/attachments/forumid_23/Mosel-5B-H200-50_rEQ1Pjc2gBtj.jpg

the Infineon chip:

http://bbs.gzeshop.com/attachments/forumid_23/Infineon-5-4ten-SIDE_FLa4Y0oavZh3.jpg

so what the hell the zx is?

[Dave_Sz]

It's infineon.

[NapalmV5]

from those pics, don look to be neither mosel nor infineon - so wat ic is it ?

im very interested... but wat ic on these HX ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231034

[Rattle]

I ordered a kit of the ZX

[G.S Technician]

got ZX this Evening..and this my First Test ^_^

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4969/260x10zx32pi7vi.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=260x10zx32pi7vi.jpg)
What the Vddr limit for this Ram ,is Ok to give 3.0 V and Up Volt ?
are this Ram need Cooler Fan ?

u should lower it a bit, 2.8~2.9v is good enough to do it i think :)

[aicjofs]

GSTech,

What kind of improvement have you seen for that higher voltage range?

I didn't gain a single Mhz over 265 from 2.6v to 2.85v, of course I'm not complaining, I figure I'm at the RAM max. Just curious what kind of gains you saw if any.

With 2.85v I couldn't get 2.5-3-3-x @ 250 either. Seems like my RAM is happy at 2.6V, and no extra voltage made a difference.

Why I am thinking about it...is there anything you would do to my timings for improvement? I haven't changed anything since my last post, but I'll post a pic again so you don't have to go back.

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/gskill.jpg

[dimasdw]

u should lower it a bit, 2.8~2.9v is good enough to do it i think :)

now i use 2.9 V for 24/7 use ..:)

[Marquzz]

I'm running my ZX with 2.85V right now, 100% stable at 250MHz 3-3-3-8 on DFI RDX with a 3200+ venice @ 2500

[G.S Technician]

u might want to try read to write to 3, that maybe help u some few mhz. adding some voltage helps like 5~10 mhz for me, but it really depends on the IC.

GSTech,

What kind of improvement have you seen for that higher voltage range?

I didn't gain a single Mhz over 265 from 2.6v to 2.85v, of course I'm not complaining, I figure I'm at the RAM max. Just curious what kind of gains you saw if any.

With 2.85v I couldn't get 2.5-3-3-x @ 250 either. Seems like my RAM is happy at 2.6V, and no extra voltage made a difference.

Why I am thinking about it...is there anything you would do to my timings for improvement? I haven't changed anything since my last post, but I'll post a pic again so you don't have to go back.

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/gskill.jpg

[IceMole]

Put a set in my cart last night for $213, went back at a little past midnight to order and it jumped back to $222, must've been a 1 day only sale. My set should be here tomorrow :)

[Dave_Sz]

No, they were for $213 for a few days.

[romeon]

Hello,

How about dividers? Does ZX ram run without problems using dividers?

Thank you.

[Dave_Sz]

If you have problems running memory with dividers it's the weak memory controller in your CPU, not the ram.

[Freez]

These are supposed to show up in a few hours with my new Opteron 146. Hoping to get some good clocks :D

Do these modules get hot enough to warrant active cooling?

[SaFrOuT]

Do these modules get hot enough to warrant active cooling?

This is a question that i will be waiting for its answer

i am planning to run my ram @ Vdimm 2.6~2.7, will this need an active cooling like my UTT @ 3.2 or not ?

[G.S Technician]

hmmmm, air cooling is good if you want to add over 2.8v

using memory divider is really depends on CPU and memory, but more on CPU side. i don't have any problem on g.skill's testing machine. which run with 3000+ (for rma testing) or opty146.

[Dave_Sz]

Ok, so my new sticks do 260 and possibly might do 275+, they ran SPi32m at 270. Now, all of you posting shots of your ram with 32mPi runs, how many of you can actually run prime or stressprime LARGE(stress ram) FFTs for as long as you can run your CPU? Currently I'm running my ram at 245 with 3-3-2-5 at 2.88v or so. Last time it failed at 11m, so I upped the V a bit, changed TREF to 3702 from 3684, lower preamble, and now they are at 20, and going strong. I'm gonna let them run for 10 hours and see if they pass.

[Dave_Sz]

I wouldn't use a divider smaller than 150 as the lower ones hurt performance. At 312 the memory is around 255 or so with the 166 divider. Run it at 3-3-3-5 ans see how it does.

[SaFrOuT]

i think R stands for Retail

[Dave_Sz]

R stands for retail, this was already resolved.

[Dave_Sz]

I've got to be doing somethign wrong, I've never had such problems with ram and getting it to boot. First off I tried the techs settings for 250 and that's really a no go. I tried 3-3-3-8 and it won't even go over 225. I reset the bios, is there anything I need to touch other then the basic timings and voltage? Also going up to 2.8 or 2.9v does nothing. Other ram lets me run any divider I want, this stuff I can't touch anything below 166 which is killing my OC with a 9x multi. :stick:

Most is set to auto so here's what it's doing...I've never felt more like I've never overclocked then I do right now. Maybe because I've never been into doing much with the ram.

I'd be satisfied if I could just get it to run 312x9 with 133div @ 200

Ok in the BIOS, memory configuration set your values to this

166 or 150
enable
3
3
5
2
9
13
2
2
2
2
3072
auto
enabled
auto
0
level 7
level 3
7ns
normal
5ns
256enable
16x
07x
disable

Have your dram voltage at 2.8
What bios are you using?
How stable is your CPU at 312x9? How many hours of prime does it pass with those settings?

[IceMole]

Still no go dave, just going to send back and take the 15% restock :stick:

[Dave_Sz]

I got mine to run 3-3-2-0 at 246. No peformance difference than 3-3-2-5. It can run 3-3-0-0.

[SaFrOuT]

which type of bios is prefered on the DFI's NF4 mobos

-1 or -2 or 03 ?

[Dave_Sz]

Doesn't seem to matter with this ram. -1 is a general bios, as in for most ram. -3 is for tccd and -2 is for bh5.

[aicjofs]

Ok, so my new sticks do 260 and possibly might do 275+, they ran SPi32m at 270. Now, all of you posting shots of your ram with 32mPi runs, how many of you can actually run prime or stressprime LARGE(stress ram) FFTs for as long as you can run your CPU? Currently I'm running my ram at 245 with 3-3-2-5 at 2.88v or so. Last time it failed at 11m, so I upped the V a bit, changed TREF to 3702 from 3684, lower preamble, and now they are at 20, and going strong. I'm gonna let them run for 10 hours and see if they pass.

My 2 tests for total system stability are : 12hrs Prime, 2 hours of playing BF2(induce video card heat into the case.). After that I call it good.

Everything is fine. I'm only at 255Mhz with 2.6v though...

[G.S Technician]

bios -1 gives best performance.

@ IceMole
you can try to RMA to Newegg to ask for replacement.
they will send you a new set. if that still not work at your machine, then ask for refund is better way to do it.
but everything need to do quick.

[Rattle]

These stix are awful for me, on a DFI with a 3700 I cant get into windows at anyting above 220, regardless of timings or voltage.
My 3700 did 300X9 1:1 with TCCD.
I know this is different but 220???
I will be sending mine back.

[Dave_Sz]

I just noticed that with 3-3-7-2-9-13 I have better PI and bandwidth scores than with 3-3-5-2-9-13. Funny thing is that 3dmark scores have NOT CHANGED AT ALL by going from 2.5-3-3-6 with the 1gb tccd to 3-3-2-7 with the g.skill.

[Rattle]

Ok I was able to get into windows at 225, anything over 222 fails prime instantly and loosening timings to 3-4-4-8 has no effect and neither does voltage up to 2.9.

Right now I'm at 267X10 with 166 divider memory at 222 @ 2.75 volts running prime. 3-3-2-5 timings. Loosening or adjusting all the other dram settings has got me no where whatsoever...

Do these things need to burn in?
Did I get a set of crap or are the ones hitting 250-270 cherry picked.

My first G.Skill experience is turned out to be rather dissapointing. Only pulling 6450 mb/s.

With my 1 gig kit I was able to get 7000+ with 11X250 1:1 thats what I was hoping for with these but I guess it serves me right for expecting over 200.


:mad:


Prime95 running 6 hours, man 2gigs is sweet, can prime and fly around in windows and internet lol.

Any GSkill guys have any suggestion to try and get me sticks higher ??

I need 245 at least out of these puppies before I will think about keeping them.

I guess if I wanted DDR500 I should have gotten these :slapass:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231021

[Freez]

Ok I was able to get into windows at 225, anything over 222 fails prime instantly and loosening timings to 3-4-4-8 has no effect and neither does voltage up to 2.9.

Right now I'm at 267X10 with 166 divider memory at 222 @ 2.75 volts running prime. 3-3-2-5 timings. Loosening or adjusting all the other dram settings has got me no where whatsoever...

Do these things need to burn in?
Did I get a set of crap or are the ones hitting 250-270 cherry picked.

My first G.Skill experience is turned out to be rather dissapointing. Only pulling 6450 mb/s.

With my 1 gig kit I was able to get 7000+ with 11X250 1:1 thats what I was hoping for with these but I guess it serves me right for expecting over 200.


:mad:


Prime95 running 6 hours, man 2gigs is sweet, can prime and fly around in windows and internet lol.

Any GSkill guys have any suggestion to try and get me sticks higher ??

I need 245 at least out of these puppies before I will think about keeping them.

I guess if I wanted DDR500 I should have gotten these :slapass:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231021

did you try usin the posted settings by the G.Skill tech? I just poppsed them in, set up those settings, and viola! Memtested stable at 265 for 12 hours at 2.8 volts. Im using the 704-2BT BIOS and havent had one problem.

[Rattle]

yeah i tried the exact setttings, Not sure what bios he's using but I'm using same bios as you.

BTW check windows, cuz memtest doesnt mean windows stability...

EDIT :

went back and changed my settings to the techs and again no windows at 226, at 225 I get into windows but instant prime95 failure. They did go thru prime at 222 for 8 hours no problem. Figured after a good burn in they may get more but no way.

Oh well

[Dave_Sz]

I'm at 246mhz on the ram and my bandwidth is 6900mbs and I don't care. Why? Because sandra or everest are about as good at telling you real world performance as Yugo is at making cars. You have a AMD processor, CPU mhz is all that matters with memory making a 2-4% difference. I benched my old set of 1gb ram at 270mhz with 2-4-3-7 timings at 270 and it scored the same at 3dmark, all 3 of them as I do now with 3-3-2-7 at 246.

[IceMole]

Rattle mine have the same problem. Can't run faster then 225 and won't really run with a divider lower then 166 or 150, being my Opty 144 is a 9x multi it limits me to about 2400mhz. I can throw in a pair of 2gb geils and use any divider I want, this opty is 2800 @ 1.4v 24hr prime stable, with the G.Skills I can't even boot over 2400. I already filled out the newegg return and went to mail them back today except post office is closed for vet. day. Cost me $225 and I'll get $188 back for the refund, kinda sucks for having them 24hrs. I haven't tried them at 2T yet and being I have the weekend with them yet I may just get them out of the box and try.

[ExtraPickles]

Same results here, right about 220 1:1 tops with Ultra-D and 623-3 or 704-2BTA BIOS after 2 days of trying all settings here and then some.

-pickles

[Rattle]

sry dudes we are in the same boat, I'm swapping mine for the black Gskills that do 3-4-4-8 and ddr500 out of the box, they are $245, should ahve done that to begin with. These are still the most cost effective stix even though they dont overclock worth a damn...

I gotta have 250 !!!

[uOpt]

OK, so why do people buy the PC3200 ZX when they know they must reach PC4000 speeds to be happy, when there is the specified PC4000 HZ set?

I really think you are not fair to G.Skill here.

[IceMole]

Reason I'm sending back is because they won't let me run a divider under 150 or 166, which means my chip is capped at 2400 when it'll do 3ghz with ease. If I could get it to run a 133 divider I'd be extremly happy. I just want 2-3-2-5 @ 200 out of it using a divider.

[Rattle]

OK, so why do people buy the PC3200 ZX when they know they must reach PC4000 speeds to be happy, when there is the specified PC4000 HZ set?

I really think you are not fair to G.Skill here.

reason why people by the pc3200 is because we expect to see around 240+ when we have techs from the company posting 270+ to show what they can do, unfortunately the retails are telling another story.

I am buying G.Skill ddr500's so that is a break for G.Skill lol

[IceMole]

Anyone think running 2T would make it be able to boot using a lower divider? If so I might just open my RMA box and try it out.

[bachus_anonym]

Have anyone of you guys tried to start off without using any dividers at all? In many cases, getting stable with memory divider used, requires some fine tuning, even to get system to POST. Those that haven't tried that yet, do so. You might be making it harder for yourself that it might really seem.

Just set voltage to 2.7v, use 5-2-3-3.0-1T, TREF=AUTO and go from there. G.Skill ZX does not seem to gain anything from raising voltage above 2.9v. Bump voltage slowly when neccesary and also try TRTW=3 if you experience sudden wall.

[Rattle]

yep tried all that. no divider cpu multi 10X 9X 8x still no boot over 225 no matter what. 222 is max prime stable with or without a divider regardless of timings, voltage or dram settings or bios. or cpu since I tested on my diego and a venice in another DFI.

[ExtraPickles]

Same here with 4200+ Manchester and 3800+ Toledo.

-pickles

[IceMole]

Can anyone with problems run a 300x9 with a 133 divider?

[Rattle]

I can run any divider I want as long as the memory ends up 222 or less lol

I'm running 267X10 with 166 divider which gives me 222 and its totally stable.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

mine's running fine at 250 with the settings from the last page. havent tried any higher yet, but FEAR runs so smooth now.

[bachus_anonym]

Can anyone with problems run a 300x9 with a 133 divider?I just did a quick (I repeat, quick :D) check on multis x8, x9, x10 and x11 and in all those instances, at div140 and div133 system hangs and the end of POST at 300HTT... It's fine @ div166 and div180... It could be possibly fixed through tweaking few settings in BIOS, but I don't feel like playing with it now :p: Good show is on TV :D

[IceMole]

Exactly my problem :dammit: It would to go run memtest and give me a black screen with "Unexpected Inturrupt - Halting"

[romeon]

These rams I wouldn't recommend my worst enemy. Massive problems with dividers (thanks for testing, G.S.Technician), incredible lousy to oc. I couldn't believe the rumours before, but these rams are most likely odious Hynix.
Thanks for this review. Lessons learned.

[bachus_anonym]

These rams I wouldn't recommend my worst enemy. Massive problems with dividers (thanks for testing, G.S.Technician), incredible lousy to oc. I couldn't believe the rumours before, but these rams are most likely odious Hynix.
Thanks for this review. Lessons learned.Do you actually have that kit? Or you just saying that for some reason?
Dividers often require some tweaking to work the way they should. Right off the bat, I can use div180, 166 and 150. I'm gonna try div140 and 133 again tonight, with some more "heart" put into it :)

[Dave_Sz]

These rams I wouldn't recommend my worst enemy. Massive problems with dividers (thanks for testing, G.S.Technician), incredible lousy to oc. I couldn't believe the rumours before, but these rams are most likely odious Hynix.
Thanks for this review. Lessons learned.

What lesson would that be? That you don't know how to overclock or that you have the patience of a crack addict? You post was as useless as Paris Hilton being on a debate team.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

Well i love mine and would recommend them to my best friend.

[bachus_anonym]

Update to my last night's answer to this Q:Can anyone with problems run a 300x9 with a 133 divider?I'm just now running 32M with div133 @ 311x9=2808MHz DDR400 5-2-3-3.0-1T 2.7v. I will update this post with photos and screenshot in about 15 mins ;)
I'm on phase change and my SD 3700+ is a bit cold-bugged which does not allow me to go much further on HTT that 310-315 at any multiplier (CPU is benchable up to 3.4GHz and 2GBZX to 273MHz, though). So I can't try div133 DDR500...

Update: Voila! I had a photo taken durin 12th pass, but accidentally deleted wrong one of the CF card :(
Problems with dividers are not exactly and always caused by memory. It's up to few visits to BIOS and tweaking...

[G.S Technician]

Hi guys, i would want to let you know that last week i was very very busy. our warehouse got break in and lost a lot of things. i am unable to do all the pm reply, emails, and rma. Everything will back on track next week i hope.
2GBZX i would say 90% of them can do very good on OC but it is not "rated" speed. if every kit can does 500, we will rated @ DDR500? i hope everyone understand it.

[Rattle]

These stix were my first G.Skill purchase and although I was dissapointed in there clocking potential, they are good stix and after all they are only pc3200. I just think they need to not promote these as overclocking stix, seems like 50/50 at best, which is a crappy ratio of you wanna advertise these as overclocking ram.

My G.Skill ddr500's are on the way so I shall have my 2gigs at 250 or better anyway. plus the black heatspreaders on these are way nicer looking :p:

[Rattle]

Hi guys, i would want to let you know that last week i was very very busy. our warehouse got break in and lost a lot of things. i am unable to do all the pm reply, emails, and rma. Everything will back on track next week i hope.
2GBZX i would say 90% of them can do very good on OC but it is not "rated" speed. if every kit can does 500, we will rated @ DDR500? i hope everyone understand it.

as long as your ddr500 2gig kit does 500 then we're square :)

I dont know about your 90% guesstimate since almost everyone here with them says they dont OC well :fact:

[bachus_anonym]

I just wanted to add another example of dividers working just fine ( at least with the kit and CPU I have :p: ).
This time it's 32M with div150 @ 320x9=2906MHz DDR484 5-2-3-3.0-1T 2.7v. BIOS I'm using is 623-3.

And yeah, just like G.S. Technician says... Look at the price of that kit and understand why it's rated @ PC3200. There are 2GB kits rated @ PC4000 but cost of speed grading makes them often much more expensive. It's simple when money is not a factor. But If one is on a very tight budget then things get a bit more frustrating...

[ed.au]

Here are my results (http://www.users.tpg.com.au/edii/piprime2.jpg)

2hr prime / 32M superpi

I copied the bios settings from the original post exactly on my ultra-d, and have got DDR500 easy.

It was the cheapest 2GB kit I could find in australia so I'm very happy with how it performs!

:)

[Rattle]

yeah I would ahve been thrilled if mine did 250, I swapped em for the ddr500's

[IceMole]

Did you have to pay a 15% restock fee on newegg too?

[aicjofs]

Some sticks don't seem to be doing as good as others all of a sudden... :(

I question blaming the RAM directly for dividers not working that just doesn't make sense.

[Rattle]

dividers have nothing to do with the ram actually as far as I know, its all memory controller, in my case I know its neither the cpu or memory controller, so I know its the ram that wont overclock.

[IceMole]

Yes I blame the ram, I stick 2x1gb geils in and everything works fine, I stick 2x512 OCZ in and everything works fine, I stick these G.Skills in and I can't boot over 270 or use a divider under 150.

[Rattle]

well you got me beat mine would not go over 225 all I wanted was 250, your getting 270 !!

Wish I got your stix :rolleyes:

[IceMole]

Over 270x9 I mean not 270 on the ram. Read my posts, mine killed my OC. All I wanted was 312x9 with a 133 divider running the ram at 200 and it couldn't even do that.

[Rattle]

ok well I beat you then LMAO, wow thats pretty weak man,

on a side note I got my ddr500 2gb kit today and they are nice 250 out of the box and they auto'd at 3-3-3-7 instead of the rated 3-4-4-8, Got into windows at 275 but I am sick of messing with my rig. so they are sitting at 250 and I am content with 2.7ghz and 250

[G.S Technician]

you two are really unlucky :(
so how is those kits going on in here now

who else can not overclock this ram let me know, i am doing the stat now

[Tibu]

I just got a couple of those stix and right now they are sitting pretty at 265FSB 1:1 3-3-2-5 2.8v

I just popped them in, booted right up with 704BTA-2 bios set 265 and 3-3-2-5 and they went just fine. Will post pics later tonight.

[perkam]

I believe the HZ is what you're looking for if you want @GB ~280 3-3-2-5 ...

And they just reduced the price On newegg from $245 to $235 :D

Perkam

[Rattle]

Yeah I traded the 3200's in for those, they are better for $235 for sure :p:

[Metalkobra]

Does anyone here have this memory and a 3700+? Id like to see what FSBs are reached with different timings, Im interested to see, im having trouble choosing a 2gb kit, I really dont even know if 2gbs is worth getting yet...Oh im new here btw :), I think that just testing with an opteron is kind of a...bland testbed, I know every cpu is different, but I would really like to see the performance paired with a 3700...

[bachus_anonym]

Does anyone here have this memory and a 3700+? Id like to see what FSBs are reached with different timings, Im interested to see, im having trouble choosing a 2gb kit, I really dont even know if 2gbs is worth getting yet...Oh im new here btw :), I think that just testing with an opteron is kind of a...bland testbed, I know every cpu is different, but I would really like to see the performance paired with a 3700...Here's my 2wk old test with ZX and 3700+ |---> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1119913&postcount=2

[Metalkobra]

:slobber: 297x11 I saw that and I was like WHOOOA then I noticed your temps LOL, -10c im going water cooling for christmas, do you think that I could reach those speeds? did you ever try 10 x 300fsb? if so, did it work? I want those sticks you have, theyre awesome lol...man now its a toughie...

Well answer my other question...do you think its worth it to make the move to 2GBs?

[bachus_anonym]

:slobber: 297x11 I saw that and I was like WHOOOA then I noticed your temps LOL, -10c im going water cooling for christmas, do you think that I could reach those speeds? did you ever try 10 x 300fsb? if so, did it work? I want those sticks you have, theyre awesome lol...man now its a toughie...In that 297x11, memory is on divider (look at the A64Tweaker) and ZX runs @ 272MHz 5-2-3-2.5-1T, which is MAX they go full-stable. I think my kit is somewhat above average, though...

[Metalkobra]

Well, technically...shouldnt any memory be able to go somewhat higher on a divider? wether it be 10-15mhz? or is that wrong?

[Rattle]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231021

[aicjofs]

Well, technically...shouldnt any memory be able to go somewhat higher on a divider? wether it be 10-15mhz? or is that wrong?

I can't see how it would help.

2 scenarios. To keep the same memory speed with a divider as you have 1:1, you have to:

1. To keep the CPU speed constant you lower the CPU multi and increase HTT. I can't see this helping memory clock, if anything bring system instability due to excessive HTT

2. Increase CPU speed so the memory on divider clocks up to what it was at 1:1. Let's say the CPU can handle the higher speed and is not a factor. I can't see this helping either.

If you are just saying that a divider alone(no other system changes), then yeah if you were running 200Mhz at 1:1 and put a 166 divider, now the mem is at 166Mhz then yeah you probably have another 33Mhz to go. I don't think that's what you are saying though.

For equal mem speed I can't see how the divider would help max mem speed.

[Rattle]

it doesnt help max speed... it allows you to keep the memory down to a frequency that it will do while allowing you to still overclock.

Example
300X9=2.7
If 1:1 then ddr600

If your stix will only do 250 then
300X9=2.7
if 166 or 5:6 then ddr500 or there abouts.

I have this problem with a 3000 venice... it will do 2.7ghz but wont allow a HTT higher than 243.

I cant prime 250X9 for 2250mhz for more than a minute, but 300X8 flies with stock voltage and a 5:6 divider ....

[x-men]

I also got a pair of these 1gb gskil GBZX. But I also have the problem to boot with a divider under 166. They run just fine at 290 Mhz HTT with divider 166 and the settings posted by G.S Technician on the first page.
I also tried the bios and the settings posted by bachus_anonym to get lower divider, but it won't boot in windows. It just resets itself after the nvidia raid screen.

[mustrum]

I also got a pair of these 1gb gskil GBZX. But I also have the problem to boot with a divider under 166. They run just fine at 290 Mhz HTT with divider 166 and the settings posted by G.S Technician on the first page.
I also tried the bios and the settings posted by bachus_anonym to get lower divider, but it won't boot in windows. It just resets itself after the nvidia raid screen.
Hmm i just ordered me these Sticks. I hope they can do 295x9 @166 divider.
That's what i am aaiming for.

[bachus_anonym]

I also got a pair of these 1gb gskil GBZX. But I also have the problem to boot with a divider under 166. They run just fine at 290 Mhz HTT with divider 166 and the settings posted by G.S Technician on the first page.
I also tried the bios and the settings posted by bachus_anonym to get lower divider, but it won't boot in windows. It just resets itself after the nvidia raid screen.So what's the problem then?

Now, you guys need to understand that being able to run dividers have rather nothing to do with memory modules itself. As I said in my post earlier. With BIOS 704-1 I was not able to post with div133/140 during very quick test. I flashed to 623-3 and it's like a different world. With that said, it is up to BIOS settings that sometimes need to be adjusted for some dividers to work properly.
Another thing is OCing results from that ZX part. I'm not GSkill tech or anything like that but I have one of those kits. What you need to understand is, that it is PC3200 part, not PC4000 part. Therefore, as many pairs can OC well, some might also not do that great. This is probably the reason ZX is only in PC3200 flavor and it's price is so low. It's only $216, so think about it... That's why YMMV and you cannot come and complain everytime you can't see 240-260MHz out of it. If you want guaranteed 250MHz, go with kit that is rated at that speed.

The results with that kit seem to be very spread out... Some can do 27ish (very rare), some will do 250-260ish and some can do a lot less. You really need to understand that you have to take that risk as it's very cheap kit. It can do great but it can also be not so great. But it sure is a great bang for the buck, considering it's low price.

[x-men]

I think it depends on how much your ram will do. For mine its about 241 mhz with divider and about +10 mhz with 1:1. As I can't use lower dividers, 290-293 super-pi 32m stable is the end for me.
The bad thing is, with my old twinmos bh-5 I managed to get 3100 mhz prime stable on water with 133 divider.

[mustrum]

Hmm they definatly have issues with dividers then it seems :(
Damn i hope i can keep my 295x9.
Abnout the ppl that say it's the CPU that affects dividers: I can run all dividers with my current Geil TCCD. I had 2 differend hi voltage RAM's (BH 5 and UTT) and they both couldn't run at all with a divider. (That was on a NEO2)
One type of RAM works liek a charm while others didn't - now how did the CPU make that happen? I agree that it might be a weak memory controller to some extent but it's not the CPU alone that affects this.

[x-men]

Hi bachus_anonym. I tried your settings, even the bios like you. But no chance to get into windows with low dividers. All I want from this ram is too run at 200 mhz, rated timings and a low divider. Every mhz on the ram is ok but I don't really worry about it if it doesn't do 250-260.

The only really sad thing for me is that I don't get the ram to work with low divider and htt about 300~320 mhz.

[G.S Technician]

I will say it depends on all hardware, CPU, mobo, ram, HDD, everthing!!
different setup will result different overclock. Some ppl has many problem when they RMA their ram but there is no problem when I or RMA dep test it.
After all 2GBZX is DDR400 product, it is the top 10 cheapest 2gb ram on newegg...if it does DDR500 OC, that is good, but CPU divider is really depends on CPU's MC, mobo, and ram, or maybe more

[mustrum]

I will say it depends on all hardware, CPU, mobo, ram, HDD, everthing!!
different setup will result different overclock. Some ppl has many problem when they RMA their ram but there is no problem when I or RMA dep test it.
After all 2GBZX is DDR400 product, it is the top 10 cheapest 2gb ram on newegg...if it does DDR500 OC, that is good, but CPU divider is really depends on CPU's MC, mobo, and ram, or maybe more

Since dividers work just fine with my current TCCD my chances are quite good that it will work with the Gskill then right?
(RAM will be the only hardware i change)

Edit: And yes i find the price on these quite nice even though i have to pay 250€ for it wich is a lot more than peeps in the US. :(