View Full Version : Water Block for Chiller?
Eclipsed
10-16-2005, 02:01 PM
Ok, so I found a DD tdx block for 40 bucks or a Zalman WB3 for 38. Also I can get a White water aluminum top, for like 42.
The DD has the lucite top and seems like it might me harder to insulate? The zalman is a circular block that mgiht be easier to insulate. The zalman is gold plated, with a annodized top. I heard the white water is harder to insulate also, cuz of the three barbs?
Which of those would be best?
Thanks,
Eclipsed
.sentinel
10-16-2005, 02:06 PM
First not the DD because Lucite cracks under cold temps. Not the Zalman because it has aluminum in it and not the white water because there is aluminum in it so none of them. The best block would be probably something like the Storm block or the Swiftech MCW-6002.
eBoy0
10-16-2005, 02:06 PM
I own the DD TDX, the brass top is a MUST. It's also pretty difficult to insulate because of it's odd shape. Other than that it's #1 pick for me, wish i found a square shaped block like the whitewater though.
Eclipsed
10-16-2005, 02:25 PM
I know the swiftech is recommended but it has smaller fittings and also is a bit more than I wanna spend on the block. The zalman is anodized aluminum and the inside is gold palted so galvanic corrosion shouldn't be a problem.
chew*
10-16-2005, 02:27 PM
Of all blocks and hardware setup the swiftech is probably the easiest to insulate/ customize mounting/ least restrictive( which i think pressure does not matter when chilling) so you really dont need a high pressure/spray nozzle block like the storm. I'm using the 3/8 version in my liquid frostbyte setup and will post pics when its done.
.sentinel
10-16-2005, 05:48 PM
The Swiftech MCW6002 is 1/2 inch and 3/8 and its at Jab-tech for around 35 dollars.
Plague_oc
10-16-2005, 05:55 PM
Swiftech MCW-6002 is what ive had for 2 years and its very easy to get setup, best temps too
Crash_BFH
10-16-2005, 05:58 PM
Swiftech MCW-6002 is what ive had for 2 years and its very easy to get setup, best temps too
Are you retarded? Thats crazy :slobber:
Plague_oc
10-16-2005, 06:02 PM
what do you mean?
Crash_BFH
10-16-2005, 06:02 PM
what do you mean?
There no way swift tec has the best temps.
ShawnMcGrail
10-16-2005, 06:03 PM
Who knows, He's a crazy old man... :slapass:
Plague_oc
10-16-2005, 06:05 PM
as far as im concerned the swiftec is and will be one of the best blocks for A64s, i dunno what you guys are talking about
chew*
10-16-2005, 10:08 PM
There no way swift tec has the best temps.
when running -50F liguid through a block whats imprtant is it doesnt leak/ its not restrictive/ easy to mount/ easy to insulate. How the heck can a different waterblock make that much difference when -50F liquid is pumped through it.........................
expansionvalve
10-17-2005, 10:05 AM
I tried to get a water block with a plastic lid to crack and leak and failed. Ok, I did only pass -20c through it but I failed to break it. I had it running on it's own for months, warmed it, cooled it, stuck load resistor on in but still it no leak or break.
My little avatar picture with the smiley is indeed the block I tried to break
RussC
10-17-2005, 11:07 AM
Well, Whether the temp of the coolant is ambient or -50c, the specific properties of the water block will hold for both. If the Wb is better at ambient, then it's better at -50c, it's that simple. So, if WB A runs 4c lower than WB B @ambient, it will run 4c cooler at -50c.
I agree that leakage and ease of instlall can be important, the underlying emphasis here is performance related to temps and benching, so a few degrees can make a difference when talking about WB.
RussC
when running -50F liguid through a block whats imprtant is it doesnt leak/ its not restrictive/ easy to mount/ easy to insulate. How the heck can a different waterblock make that much difference when -50F liquid is pumped through it.........................
as far as im concerned the swiftec is and will be one of the best blocks for A64s, i dunno what you guys are talking about
I totally agree, esp. for the price. I've ran mine many times down around 4c-8c. I would imagine that if you compared the idle temp to load temps of various wb's, you would be surprised. Good flow would be paramount anyway for a slurry.
Eclipsed
10-20-2005, 12:05 AM
Well I ordered the zalman. The reason for this is the zalman comes with brackets to fit all sockets, and the Swiftech does not. Thios was necessary for me as I do not know if I will be runnign it solely on a 478, or a 462, or even a new 939 or an intel 775. I finally got all my parts ordered and I should be starting my build by middle of next week. Thanks for all the info. I'm glad I didnt get the TDX now.
Bloody_Sorcerer
10-20-2005, 01:28 PM
that was a bad choice. zalman makes possibly the worst watercooling products that there are. Should've gottten the swiftech, which is one of the best blocks that there are. Also, you can buy/build different retention plates for different sockets.
Eclipsed
10-20-2005, 03:55 PM
We'll see. People told trying a mini fridge chilelr was a bad choice, and people are telling me the zalman is a bad choice. You can't learn anything if you don't make mistakes and furthermore, the swiftech simply was not an option, I don't have the tools to make new retention plates, and I'm not gonna pay 10-15 bucks for each extra hold down plate i need, which is prolly aorund 3-4. No one gave me any other options. So, we'll see how it works.
Frozendeath
10-20-2005, 04:45 PM
Danger Den Maze 4 with a brass top is what I use. I have used many blocks both with regular water, and with chilled water..... maze 4 beat out the swifty in my experience (as far as temps are concerned). Easy to insulate, good flow through it and so on.
Oh and a minifridge chiller works great until its burns out the compressor, as stock fridge systems are not meant to run 24/7.