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theopetro
10-02-2005, 12:32 PM
what is the best waterblock for an athalon64 socket 939. also whats the best mixture of water/antifreeze whatever? id prefer something solid cu or cu/brass. i dont want it to crack.
Bloody_Sorcerer
10-02-2005, 12:45 PM
Swiftech STORM is the best availible block.
The little river G5 and G7 are better (by a small amount), but are in the 200 and 300 dollar price range each, respectively, and AFAIK, none are availible currently.
freecableguy
10-02-2005, 12:50 PM
Storm G5 can't be beat at this time.
Bloody_Sorcerer
10-02-2005, 12:53 PM
yes it can; Storm G7 ;)
MaxxxRacer
10-02-2005, 12:55 PM
as i read down the page and saw g5 and cant be beat.. well G7 was the first thing that popped into my head.. and of course... next post down.. there it is.


BUT as far as retail waterblocks, the Swiftech storm is not beatable.
freecableguy
10-02-2005, 01:09 PM
I don't believe the G7 is available for purchase yet....making the G5 the winner.
theopetro
10-02-2005, 01:20 PM
awesome thanks guys, now what about coolant?
MaxxxRacer
10-02-2005, 01:23 PM
distilled water with 10-15% Zerex Racing Coolant

and go read my introductory guide to watercooling.. if you havnt already.. but it sounds like you havnt.
theopetro
10-02-2005, 03:45 PM
i thought adding stuff like water weter actually hurts preformance because its designed to operate at much higher temps than would be present in a cup system. (ive done some research but didnt have anything that compaired everything)
AlterBridge86
10-02-2005, 04:07 PM
i thought adding stuff like water weter actually hurts preformance because its designed to operate at much higher temps than would be present in a cup system. (ive done some research but didnt have anything that compaired everything)

I believe that coolant+water won't cool as well as water alone HOWEVER without the coolant you will grow all sorts of algae and other fun stuff in your loop, and that won't be pretty :P. If you read over Max's guide (a GREAT guide for starters, its where I started) it will take care of pretty much every question you could have at this time. Good luck!
Cathar
10-02-2005, 04:09 PM
The alternative to preventing growth is to have a total lack of light. Won't stop growths totally, but the less light energy that gets to the water, the cleaner it'll stay.
MaxxxRacer
10-02-2005, 04:43 PM
ok guys... run your computer in a dark room.. its the only way!

lol stew... think ur fever is getting to you :stick: ;) :lol:
Cathar
10-02-2005, 04:45 PM
ok guys... run your computer in a dark room.. its the only way!


Actually I was thinking more of something like this:

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=7510&product%5Fid=8701

http://www.usplastic.com/images/products/tubing/57231p.jpg

No need to become a vampire.
xenolith
10-02-2005, 05:07 PM
Aren't we forgetting about corrosion when water comes in contact with different metals?
Cathar
10-02-2005, 05:10 PM
Aren't we forgetting about corrosion when water comes in contact with different metals?

No, copper/brass/nickel/silver are all compatible.

Only an issue if you've got chrome/aluminium in your loop (with any of the above metals).
theopetro
10-02-2005, 11:01 PM
ok i live in ohio so its gonna have to come from an online store. i dont really wanna order from the site cuz it can take 2 weeks to process and ship. whats the best block avalable online for ~$75
MaxxxRacer
10-02-2005, 11:59 PM
Swiftech Storm... www.frozencpu.com www.crazypc.com, etc.. look in my guide for more stores.
theopetro
10-03-2005, 12:34 AM
thanks alot man i appreciate it. i placed the order just now.
FireDragon
10-03-2005, 05:37 AM
Actually I was thinking more of something like this:

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=7510&product%5Fid=8701

http://www.usplastic.com/images/products/tubing/57231p.jpg

No need to become a vampire.


and it is cheap also

dragon
chinkgai
10-03-2005, 11:38 AM
$3.42/ft and only sold in 10ft intervals isnt thaaat cheap
FrozenPC4Brain
10-03-2005, 12:35 PM
"The alternative to preventing growth is to have a total lack of light. Won't stop growths totally, but the less light energy that gets to the water, the cleaner it'll stay."
What about the KILLING effect that UV Rays DO have on "alge" type of lifeforms?
Wouldn't a box full of UV Lights stop or at least slow down any growth?
:confused: :confused:
chinkgai
10-03-2005, 01:25 PM
uv lights are expensive, no? plus cancerous if accidently exposed to ur...skin

say ur computer is next to ur leg...and uv light leaks out of a hole or something... cancer vs some algae growth...lmao
masturdebat3rr
10-03-2005, 03:22 PM
algae are photosynthetic... thats why
jahjahbinks
10-03-2005, 03:56 PM
uv lights are expensive, no? plus cancerous if accidently exposed to ur...skin

say ur computer is next to ur leg...and uv light leaks out of a hole or something... cancer vs some algae growth...lmao

And if you stare at it, I think your eyes will go bad before you catch cancer.
saratoga
10-03-2005, 06:01 PM
UV kills stuff by chemically damaging them. I wouldn't want lights strong enough to ignite chemical reactions in organic material around my room. I'm made of organic material :)
chinkgai
10-04-2005, 03:22 AM
And if you stare at it, I think your eyes will go bad before you catch cancer.

that is correct.
Gimmpy224
10-04-2005, 01:55 PM
Well thank god I read this post, I was going to get the DD RBX for an AMD64 and I was going to use Bigwaters UV coolant :) since My case is nothing but UV.
chinkgai
10-04-2005, 04:05 PM
uv reactive stuff uses a black light, not uv light...so you'd be safe
saratoga
10-04-2005, 05:10 PM
uv reactive stuff uses a black light, not uv light...so you'd be safe

Blacklights are UV, however they're relatively low frequency UV so they're not damaging.
chinkgai
10-04-2005, 05:23 PM
yeah thats what i meant, blacklights that you see everywhere are long wave, while the ones that kill things that we mentioned earlier in this thread are short wave (the damaging type)
Gimmpy224
10-05-2005, 01:00 PM
ahhhh ok :)

I still think im going to switch from the RBX to the storm just because im not to fond of the 2 inlet 1 outlet thing and the fact it dosnt cover the whole cpu, even though it dosnt matter it would still kinda bug me.
cartmanea
10-05-2005, 03:27 PM
Actually, RBX is 1 inlet, 2 outlet. Hook it up backwards and your temps will suffer.
MadMikeSS
10-05-2005, 03:39 PM
Actually, RBX is 1 outlet, 2 inlet. Hook it up backwards and your temps will suffer.

I would think you are wrong, you want the middle barb as the inlet for the water pressure pushing in down onto the channels and the outside bards as outlet from the block.
Bloody_Sorcerer
10-05-2005, 04:07 PM
Actually, RBX is 1 outlet, 2 inlet. Hook it up backwards and your temps will suffer.
you both said the same thing in a different order; either way, you're both wrong.
It's 1 inlet (center) 2 outlets (sides).
freak22
10-05-2005, 04:07 PM
UV kills stuff by chemically damaging them. I wouldn't want lights strong enough to ignite chemical reactions in organic material around my room. I'm made of organic material :)


:toast:
cartmanea
10-05-2005, 10:05 PM
you both said the same thing in a different order; either way, you're both wrong.
It's 1 inlet (center) 2 outlets (sides).
Oops, got that fixed now :stick:
skycrane
10-06-2005, 07:28 PM
for 75 bucks, you cant beat the Storm G4 :D just got mine in the mail today....
amduser
10-09-2005, 01:55 PM
there too some european blocks that are pretty good too and as long not all are tested on the same plattform, no one can they which is the best :fact: . the storm blocks are good, no doubt, but who knows if a watercool hk2.5 or a zern pq+ might not be better :rolleyes: .
ghent915
10-10-2005, 08:55 AM
Don't most automotive anti-freezes have a decent corosion inhibitor in them? Thats why I kept with using just anti-freeze/water for my system. (Then again, I've only got copper in my loop, so...)

As for UV. BAD JUJU there. It'll not only zap your eyes/skin/whatnot and wind up giving you cancer, but it will probably also degrade your components. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most PCB's and whatnot UV reactive? Besides, who wants a sunburn everytime you open your case and forget to turn the lights off?

-Ghent
cartmanea
10-10-2005, 09:01 AM
The differences in UV lights was already explained above, short wave vs. long wave. Not all are dangerous.
ghent915
10-10-2005, 09:15 AM
Oops. My bad on rehashing FUD. You are correct in stating that not all UV lights are dangerous. As stated though, using UV for the purpose of killing stuff in your loop would generally result in conditions bad for the end user as well.
-Ghent
Holst
10-10-2005, 09:35 AM
Oops. My bad on rehashing FUD. You are correct in stating that not all UV lights are dangerous. As stated though, using UV for the purpose of killing stuff in your loop would generally result in conditions bad for the end user as well.
-Ghent

exactly.

If you wanted to use UV to kill things then you would be best off buying a garden pond UV cleaner. They are sealed up so you cant look at them, and quite effective.