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Millyons
09-29-2005, 10:52 PM
I noticed on techpowerup some ppl modded the Sapphire GTO2 to 16pipes with high result rate, and some even modded the Connect3D GTO to 16pipes, does anyone else have succes/faliure experience with those or other make off GTOs

cirthix
09-30-2005, 12:07 AM
the sapphire gto2 is a 16 pipeline card from stock. it is by far the best card for the money right now.

Millyons
09-30-2005, 12:54 AM
the sapphire gto2 is a 16 pipeline card from stock. it is by far the best card for the money right now.


no that was wrong information, its 12p stock, its the only one that supposely is garantied to work with 16p

onethreehill
09-30-2005, 12:57 AM
Hexus.net got it to run @ 16 pipes

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1636

Millyons
09-30-2005, 01:11 AM
but is there anyone with them, i know about the websites that had them im wondering what the retail ones do.......the GTO mostly since some seem moddabe, and all GTO2 seem moddable

HousERaT
09-30-2005, 07:04 AM
seems like no one is in a hurry to gamble on these cards.... however newegg raised their price by $20 on their GTO2s.... now they're selling for $219 :(

Ebola
09-30-2005, 09:42 AM
I have been heared than Connect3D' GTO is unlockable to 16pp

Millyons
09-30-2005, 09:50 AM
I have been heared than Connect3D' GTO is unlockable to 16pp


same here thats why im wondering about different companies also....

Drow
09-30-2005, 10:17 AM
Where did you hear this rumor?
Connect3D GTO: Unlockable to 16pp. Good!
But what's with the clock rate of the GPU and the clock rate of the memory of the card?
How high can he/she clock it? On X850XT PE-clock rates? That would be very nice. :bounces:

Ebola
09-30-2005, 10:27 AM
Where did you hear this rumor?
Connect3D GTO: Unlockable to 16pp. Good!
But what's with the clock rate of the GPU and the clock rate of the memory of the card?
How high can he/she clock it? On X850XT PE-clock rates? That would be very nice. :bounces:
From Muropaketi, reported by members of techpowerup

but the cards seems less overclockable than the GTO, it can't achieve XT clocks

aMp
09-30-2005, 11:07 AM
From what I've heard the GTO2 is a limited product run meant to get rid of excess R480 inventory, which is why Sapphire doesn't list the product on its own site. (Two other GTO cards are listed.) Of course that's just forum "wisdom." God only knows what ATI is up to these days.

I'm seriously thinking of pulling the trigger on this one, if I can get ~$150 for my X800 XL. According to the sites doing the mod, they've had a 100 percent success rate so far.

-aMp-

Supertim0r
09-30-2005, 11:22 AM
I'm waiting mine (GTO²)...

einCe
10-01-2005, 10:43 PM
m picking one up to, they are all almost guaranteed to unlock 16 pipes and reach xtpe speeds with no artifacts on air. these will be the cards to crossfire with. i may be picking up two for later

Malachia
10-03-2005, 06:48 AM
but at stock what are the differences between gto and gto2?

Vapor
10-03-2005, 06:54 AM
Core speed I think.

Malachia
10-03-2005, 07:04 AM
the difference is only at unlokable pipes from bios, frequencies are the same, 400/490 :)

Vapor
10-03-2005, 07:14 AM
Cool....good to know. I thought I saw a GTO2 at 500/490 but I'm starting to think that was something else now ;)

Welz
10-03-2005, 08:53 AM
The connect3D 3038 Radeon X800GTO Is only $175 at the egg right now, if you enter the promo code "X800GTO" you can get -$10
thats $180 taxed, and shipped... Im extremely temped, just hope its got the right core in there to unlock to 16pipes... Ive been comparing the saphire GTO2 and the pcb's are identical...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814142052

afireinside
10-03-2005, 09:19 AM
So the x800GTO is the same thing as an x850xt if it unlocks? I hear the ram is the same as well? Could I take down somw x850s with one modded under DI? :D

Ugly n Grey
10-03-2005, 09:22 AM
Who is selling the GTO2?

Vapor
10-03-2005, 09:22 AM
You certainly could AFI...I'd spend the extra money on the GTO2 though, 100% guarantee of unlocking ;)

The Egg has them on backorder....not sure of any places for Canada though, sorry.

LowRun
10-03-2005, 09:33 AM
Who is selling the GTO2?

Sapphire

Welz
10-03-2005, 10:16 AM
So ive come the the conclusion the the only difference between saphire and connect3d is the core? and you would need to score one with r480 or else there will be no extra pipes to unlock?

^don.k's^
10-04-2005, 11:28 AM
I have a X800GTO², unlocked the 4 pipes successfully, OC'ed to 600/600 with stock cooling/volts. OS show it like a X850 Series after unlocking, as X800GTO before. It cost me 230€ + shipping, a x850XT is at over 350€ at least... :p:

gundamit
10-04-2005, 11:31 AM
Who is selling the GTO2? Ewiz for $204. (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-P8GTOS)

TEDY
10-04-2005, 01:54 PM
item not found.

BlackPearl
10-04-2005, 04:51 PM
I got GTO2 yesterday (from Newegg) and it unlocked easily with bios flash. The included Sapphire TRIXX utility detected 511/563 on the medium "performance" mode and I've completed multiple stable runs of 3D03/05, VST at 520/560 with no visible problems, but ATITool's artifact scan gets hits every second or so, even at stock speeds (I'm not sure what that's about).

l3ored
10-07-2005, 01:37 PM
anyone who got theirs allready are a bunch of lucky bastards, newegg raised the price to 300, so its no longer the stellar deal it once was. :(

Aleman
10-07-2005, 02:56 PM
anyone who got theirs allready are a bunch of lucky bastards, newegg raised the price to 300, so its no longer the stellar deal it once was. :(
Hahhahahaha OMG!!! hahahaha i know where 2 get GTO2's cheap cheap ;)!.

Vapor
10-07-2005, 02:57 PM
Could you post it in the deals thread? I'm sure more than a few readers would be interested.

WesM63
10-07-2005, 02:58 PM
Mine should be here monday or tues. Results soon after.

(The opty should be in around the same time, gonna be a fun week next week :) )

Aleman
10-07-2005, 03:14 PM
Could you post it in the deals thread? I'm sure more than a few readers would be interested.
Well, lets say I dont have a spear one, i just know in which online site you could buy it.

Vapor
10-07-2005, 03:17 PM
That's what the deals section is for....linking to online deals.

einCe
10-07-2005, 07:22 PM
just onlocked my gto2 to 16 full pipes and its now clocked at 564/630. imma go do an 05 run now and hope for 7k edit 6600 on stock cooler, no ac5, just 300 points below my 7800gt that died from heat exahaustion. these things are great :D

NickS
10-07-2005, 07:45 PM
I think alll the GTO's with the PCI-Express power connector's are R480.

Can someone share the BIOS they're using? I wanna do this to my card, look @ my sig.

I wonder how risky this is, I'd flip :banana::banana::banana::banana: if I killed a brand new card. :mad:

Is there any safer way, ie. Software Modding like nVidia card's and RivaTuner? I could have swore there was.. :confused:

einCe
10-07-2005, 08:27 PM
heres the unlocked gto bios http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/127/images/Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin

NickS
10-07-2005, 08:46 PM
Thanks :bounce: :S

Supertim0r
10-07-2005, 09:04 PM
I'll try a X850XT PE bios when I'll know how my card OC :D

NickS
10-07-2005, 09:06 PM
Lol, aight.

I'm just not comfortable w/BIOS flashing, that's all.

einCe
10-07-2005, 09:09 PM
follow thisw guide http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127/2
i had never done a flash before and it was easy after reading this

WesM63
10-07-2005, 09:12 PM
Nick,
Look here, it tells you exactly what to look for in ATItool to tell if your card is unlockable or not. The GTO's don't have quite as high of a success rate as the GTO2's do.

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127


Edit: einCe types faster than I do.

NickS
10-07-2005, 09:16 PM
Lol, thnx guy's.

I know how to flash BIOS'. I modded my old 6800's BIOS to give me 1.4v vCore. I only kept it that way temporarily to see what I cld squeeze out of it but, I'm not a total nub ;).

Hehe. Anyway, I'll read over that guide a few times. Thnx for the linkage. I've never flashed an ATi card before, but I've modded 2 BIOS' (one modding by HEX, another with NiBitor) and flashed for nVidia's.

WesM63
10-07-2005, 09:32 PM
Sorry, didn't want to sound like you where a n00b, but just that your card might not be moddable. The SS of ATI tool tells you what to look for is all I was getting at.

NickS
10-07-2005, 09:59 PM
Lol, no problem. That's why I had the winky face. ;).

aMp
10-07-2005, 10:50 PM
OK, I'm going out of my goddamn mind here. Got my GTO2, and it works stock, but....

I've flashed mainboard BIOSes, created boot disks out the wazoo, and slipstreamed SP2 into a WinXP install...but now I can't create a functional :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing (yes, it's worth the bananas I'm so pissed) bootable CD containing the FlashROM utility. And needless to say, I'm one of the geniuses who said "bah, who needs a floppy these days?"

Using Nero 6 Ultimate's bootable CD dialog, I end up with a bootable CD that freezes my system and says this:

EMM386: Warning! Address line A20 already enabled.

I've googled that, and now I'm more confused than ever. Apparently in the BIOS there should be an A20 or Turbo Switch option to enable/disable -- but not in the DFI 704-2BT there isn't, at least not that I can find.

So next I tried creating a boot disk according to this guy's method (http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/), and ended up with a CD that says something along the lines of "ROOT FAT GO!" and promptly freezes. (I'm not kidding. It really says that. Even the exclamation point.)

So obviously I'm retarded, or maybe I just need to do this stuff sometime when I've slept in the last 36 hours.

Any advice before I take a crowbar to my rig?

-aMp-

p.s. Results to follow. :p:

einCe
10-08-2005, 12:47 AM
thats why i dug my old floppy out of the dresser, its got no casing and half a button lol

dqniel
10-08-2005, 01:37 AM
does anybody know if the agp version of the x800gto2 will mod 100% of the time?

TEDY
10-08-2005, 05:53 AM
Well, lets say I dont have a spear one, i just know in which online site you could buy it.


you have to tell us !!! :slapass:

WesM63
10-08-2005, 06:24 AM
The places that still has them:

www.edazz.com $255
www.allstarshop.com $259
www.atacom.com $219

Z YA LTR
10-08-2005, 06:48 AM
I got one up to 661/625 WIth vgpu v mod.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1296110

--Josh

leejsmith
10-08-2005, 08:32 AM
if any one in the uk wants one they have the gto2 in stock at overclockers.co.uk on special this week £129+ vat
wish i had pci-e i would have one of these

Supertim0r
10-08-2005, 09:18 AM
I got one up to 661/625 WIth vgpu v mod.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1296110

--Josh

What kind of overclock w/o vmod ? :eek:

Z YA LTR
10-08-2005, 02:32 PM
It did 580/645 with 12 pipes. Then when I did the flash It would do 570/640. The more I get the core up, the more the mem has to be brought down. I havent done the vdd vmod yet though. I dont have a 20k vr.

--Josh

WesM63
10-08-2005, 02:59 PM
:slobber:

I'll be happy with the stock X850xt clocks

NickS
10-08-2005, 03:01 PM
Same here, since im not very lucky, OC'ing & Modding wise. I seem to get the crappy OC'ers and the parts that dont mod. lol. :rolleyes:

einCe
10-08-2005, 10:39 PM
i need a vgpu mod it seems "locked" at 570/630. god i remember why i love ati, that bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: 7800gto helped me realize it
:D

K.I.T.T.
10-09-2005, 09:16 AM
It did 580/645 with 12 pipes. Then when I did the flash It would do 570/640. The more I get the core up, the more the mem has to be brought down. I havent done the vdd vmod yet though. I dont have a 20k vr.

--Josh
You on air cooling or water? Im ordering one of these bad boys in the next 3 days, so watch out!! :D :D :D

NickS
10-09-2005, 11:42 AM
Mm I'm SO excited to get mine now. It's ordered, I wish Monday wasn't a Holiday, I WANT MY CARD ><

ZX7891
10-09-2005, 11:45 AM
just ordered an X800GTO2

WesM63
10-09-2005, 12:15 PM
Mm I'm SO excited to get mine now. It's ordered, I wish Monday wasn't a Holiday, I WANT MY CARD ><

Oh crap.. I forgot monday was a holiday grr.. Now I have to wait till tues :(

NickS
10-09-2005, 01:06 PM
Haha, me too :(...possibly wednesday.

Welz
10-09-2005, 04:53 PM
Dang, these things are looking sweet...

TEDY
10-09-2005, 11:33 PM
getting it these week :)

Aleman
10-10-2005, 12:12 AM
Me getting it also this week :)

Vassili
10-10-2005, 01:05 AM
I got one up to 661/625 WIth vgpu v mod.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1296110

--Josh
Which Vmod did you use on you're GTO2?

MeTsU
10-10-2005, 10:01 AM
Damn, I'm stuck. If I buy now, I won't be able to use my card until beginning of Dec (when I arrive back in South Africa) where my rig is. I'm in the U.K until end of Nov. What should I do? Buy now, or wait until mid Nov? I know that the special at Overclockers UK will have finished and also, there might not be anymore stock left, or will there? Could it get cheaper by then?

What do you guys reckon I should do? :confused:

K.I.T.T.
10-10-2005, 10:47 AM
December? You gotta be joking!! there were only 500 odd shipped to Europe. They'll all be sold out by the end of this month i think - demand is THAT high.

NickS
10-10-2005, 10:51 AM
Yeah, at least 20 or more people have prolly bought GTO's from this forum, alone, and counting :O.

WesM63
10-10-2005, 10:56 AM
My eta is wed.. 0_o can't wait.

FYI, The list of current retails that have the card AFAIK:
www.atacom.com $229
www.edazz.com $246
www.allstarshop.com $253
www.axiontech.com (ETA tomorrow) $210

K.I.T.T.
10-10-2005, 12:25 PM
Ordered now!! :woot: Mine should come on Wednesday :banana:

Prepare to get pwned!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

DamienKC
10-10-2005, 01:18 PM
Just ordered my connect3d GTO, I will show results whenever it gets here =)

WesM63
10-10-2005, 02:04 PM
I'll have some results tonight. I got a lil suprise. I was told it wouldn't be here till wed, but lookie what I have :D

http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/x800.jpg

BlackPearl
10-10-2005, 02:55 PM
I received my replacement today for my first GTO2 which I returned because it would not pass ATITool artifact checker even at default speed (though it performed and oc'ed ok). The replacement passes artifact test and benches at 540/620 while unlocked. It will probably go higher, but even if it doesn't I'm satisfied with the performance.

K.I.T.T.
10-10-2005, 03:16 PM
I'll have some results tonight. I got a lil suprise. I was told it wouldn't be here till wed, but lookie what I have :D

http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/x800.jpg
You lucky bar steward!! :p:

Post some benchies!! :D :toast:

DamienKC
10-10-2005, 03:50 PM
I'll check my card before doing anything when I receive it, but if it happens to be R480

1. Do those modded GTO2 bios work on the regular GTO?
2. If not, is there a guide to flash Connect3D GTOs?

NickS
10-10-2005, 04:43 PM
Yeah I'm very concerned with BIOS choice. I have a Connect3D Coming, can I flash it with the modded Sapphire GTO2 BIOS?

Ostate21
10-10-2005, 04:46 PM
Man if I only had a PCI-X board I would order one of these! Damn AGP lol. :p:

LexDiamonds
10-10-2005, 04:50 PM
Nicks, as far as I know, youll have to pull the heatsink and check to see if you got a R480 core or not, If so, I believe the mod process is the same. The thing with the Saphire is it is just a guarenteed r480 core.

Millyons
10-10-2005, 04:55 PM
no even with r480 cores some cards cant be unlocked, the only GTO non GTO2 that i heard of that can unlock is the Connect3D

NickS
10-10-2005, 05:08 PM
Nicks, as far as I know, youll have to pull the heatsink and check to see if you got a R480 core or not, If so, I believe the mod process is the same. The thing with the Saphire is it is just a guarenteed r480 core.


MM, nope. :) Check this out!

Is my card moddable?
I added this section, since so many people ask "can I mod my card?".

* Download and install ATITool
* Hold down the shift key and click on "settings"
* Now scroll to the bottom of the list, you should see four new values listed. (The screenshot here is from an X850 XT PE)

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/127/images/fuses.gif

Only the red marked numbers are of interest here. If you do not have F for the red numbers, your card can not be modded.

Original Link: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127

WesM63
10-10-2005, 07:34 PM
Hopefully i'll have some results soon. I'm working with afireinside right now to see if i can get my cpu to overclock. (never played with the DFI or the TCCD I have)

jumanji969
10-10-2005, 07:56 PM
Man if I only had a PCI-X board I would order one of these! Damn AGP lol. :p:

Even though you are from Ohio...I'll help (http://www.excaliberpc.com/Sapphire_Radeon_X800GTO_AGP_256MB/100131/partinfo-id-559967.html)

LexDiamonds
10-10-2005, 08:00 PM
Wes, did the card at least mod with no issues?

WesM63
10-10-2005, 08:19 PM
Wes, did the card at least mod with no issues?


Still working on it, the 6600gt is still in while i play with CPU. Finally got things ironed out with that.. getting ready to flash now.

Supertim0r
10-10-2005, 08:23 PM
x800 gto2 card run cool ? :confused:

WesM63
10-10-2005, 09:40 PM
This card rocks!!

Flashed with no issues, i did have to force the flash but it works.

ATI tool shows 16active pipelines, running 3D05 now at 520/540 :D

Best $235 i've ever spent!

Screens to follow....

EDIT:
Here are the screens, i'm just going to link them cause they are fairly large (1600x1200). Both ss, where done at 520/540. I'm going to try 540/590 then head to bed. More tomorrow.

http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/x800stockcpu.jpg
http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/x800023cpu.jpg

einCe
10-10-2005, 10:36 PM
comparing to my experience youll hit 540/590 no problem, my if i clock up to 570 core though my system hangs so lets see what you get :D
x800 gto2 card run cool ? i idle 34c and 55c under load with some ac5 on it

WesM63
10-10-2005, 10:39 PM
hehe.. this is fun :)

Last one for tonight:
http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/x800pe23.jpg

I tried 600/600 and did a 3D01 nature run, it was about to finish then crashed with a vpu recover. So i'm sure it'll do somewhere between 540-600 ;)

Eince,
Similar temps here.

LexDiamonds
10-10-2005, 10:44 PM
600/600 is what I am going to shoot for with my gto2. :stick: Using the stock cooling or something else Wes?

TinTin
10-10-2005, 10:58 PM
x800 gto2 card run cool ? :confused:

around 40deg.C idle, and about 60deg. C full load (rm temp: 28deg.C, naked case), all are stock :D
I feel some warm air spreads out :fact:

WesM63
10-10-2005, 11:20 PM
Using the stock cooling or something else Wes?

Yes, stock cooling for now.

einCe
10-11-2005, 12:29 AM
i got JUST under 7k in 3dmark with 564/600 with the x800 mem timings in this forum. i envy those who can go up to and past 570, could it be that i have a bad clocker?

*edit* noticed i put the wrong core speed haha

NickS
10-11-2005, 03:43 AM
Awe, NT einCe. My goal is at least 4500 in 2005 :D.

Ostate21
10-11-2005, 05:31 AM
Even though you are from Ohio...I'll help (http://www.excaliberpc.com/Sapphire_Radeon_X800GTO_AGP_256MB/100131/partinfo-id-559967.html)
Hey don't dog Ohio lol! Any ways I thought that only the PCI-X ones are the only ones that can be unlocked. Or am I wrong? :confused:

TEDY
10-11-2005, 07:13 AM
I might get it tomorrow or friday...wes63: can you tell me exactly how did you flashed it.....in PM please ;)

WesM63
10-11-2005, 08:30 AM
Tedy,
YGPM.

I'm going to start playing more here soon ;) I want 7k 3d05

K.I.T.T.
10-12-2005, 08:26 AM
what drivers are you using? ati catalyst 5.9? is this the control panel version or control centre one? also, is ati tool a seperate program? just installed mine, and need to download drivers.

WesM63
10-12-2005, 08:58 AM
KITT,
I do not really know what drivers, whatever came on the sapphire disc (i'm on dial up). ATI tool is a seperate program that you can get here :
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=725

Good Luck.

TEDY
10-12-2005, 09:56 AM
Default clock is 400/980 right ?

and for X850XT is 500/540 ?

K.I.T.T.
10-12-2005, 10:00 AM
Mine has unlocked sucessfully, and is so far happy at 575/600 :)

Get 6555 3dmarks in 3d mark 2005 :D

I'm not finished yet, this thing has more in it.

*Heads off to OC some more :D*

WesM63
10-12-2005, 10:19 AM
520/540 is xt IIRC

Good work KITT. I had mine at 570/600 last night :)

TEDY
10-12-2005, 10:43 AM
friend saying he got 620/640 wihtout artifatcs...

K.I.T.T.
10-12-2005, 11:34 AM
This is the best I could do

3D Mark 2005 - 6669 :D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1312950

Finding it really hard to push it an more. Im keeping my 24/7 clocks at 579/615 MHz. Really wanted 600 MHz on the core :(.

Still, can't complain - only cost £150 :D :toast:

Ah well, maybe it will go further on better cooling......

Jupiler
10-12-2005, 12:05 PM
Read a topic on a German forum today where 6-7 guys succesfully flashed their Connect3D X800GTO cards to X800XT.
Yesterday, I saw that same card laying on the shelf of the store I buy most of my stuff.
Quickly called them and asked if they still had it (it was the only one).
Was still there. Drove to the store after work and picked it up.
The manager was very interessted to see if the card would unlock (so he could get himself one :D )

The card looked exactly the same as my regular X800XT. After preparing the necesary files for flashing, I went ahead.
Card successfully flashed at X800XT, 16p. Recognized as R423 by ATI Tool.

Made a quick 3D05 run to check the performance.
Scored 6433 marks on a non tweaked system, card slightly oc'ed at 520/540.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1313001

Will test more tomorrow to see how far it will go.
One of my better buys this year.

NickS
10-12-2005, 12:53 PM
Look what arrived for me today! :D

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/Nick_Junk/xs.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/Nick_Junk/xs2.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/Nick_Junk/xs3.jpg

Hehe, installing XP Pro ATM. Results later.

aMp
10-12-2005, 01:51 PM
The PCI-E power connector is a good sign, probably don't have a 110nm core.

Highest I've benched is just a few points shy of 7K. With another notch and a boost on the CPU I could make it; wondering if it's worth the trouble for the right to say I got 7K 2005 from a $199 card?

-aMp-

http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dm200569447az.jpg

WesM63
10-12-2005, 02:09 PM
lol I'd say its worth it. Thats what I'm shooting for, but i doubt my crappy winchester will do it.

DamienKC
10-12-2005, 02:51 PM
Good sign that all these connect3d gto's are flashing. Mine comes from newegg tomorrow. Pics and results will be posted :)

dqniel
10-12-2005, 03:01 PM
i should be getting my x800gto2 some time early next week. i'll post results after i finish building my pci-e system (i'm on pentium m right now so my x800gto2 will be useless for a while)

eviLRuLeZ
10-12-2005, 03:05 PM
I should get mine on friday.
I will test it with my venice at 2800 mhz and more probably.. :)
I will post some results for sure

DamienKC
10-12-2005, 03:23 PM
I just noticed you said x800xt Jupiler...as in they can't be flashed to x850xt or did you mean x850xt?

NickS
10-12-2005, 03:39 PM
OMFG. Flashed my card like it says on Techpowerup--my results...

http://nicks.blitz-host.net/public/oc.PNG

http://nicks.blitz-host.net/public/pipe.PNG w0000000t

Burnin in my new venice atm. stock 2ghz (3200+) runnin p95, 1.17v :p E6 :D

(those cpuz shots dont show me burning in)

einCe
10-12-2005, 03:53 PM
if you got 1.6ns ram apply the memory tweaks in this forum helps alot :D btw is that 72c core? wow highest i get inder load was 61 with the stock hs and i got 6950 in 05 yesterday, im so pissed lol

Jupiler
10-12-2005, 04:04 PM
I just noticed you said x800xt Jupiler...as in they can't be flashed to x850xt or did you mean x850xt?

Nope, I meant the X800XT, like said before.
I followed the guide from a german forum, used the Powercolor X800XT bios to flash it.

When I made the call, I asked if he could take the cooler off, which he did.
The card looks exactly the same as my BBA X800XT, no R480 on the GPU but X800, like my original one and the one posted on hexus.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=3575&page=2

NickS
10-12-2005, 04:18 PM
if you got 1.6ns ram apply the memory tweaks in this forum helps alot :D btw is that 72c core? wow highest i get inder load was 61 with the stock hs and i got 6950 in 05 yesterday, im so pissed lol

I have a small case--antec super lanboy.

i cant oc my ram for crap either. 1000 is about my max, i try 530 and it artifacts like a mofo. oh well.

gouda96
10-12-2005, 07:26 PM
I just noticed you said x800xt Jupiler...as in they can't be flashed to x850xt or did you mean x850xt?

It was my understanding that the gto could have a couple different cores meaning that it has the potential to become either an x800xt or x850xt, but the gto2 is garunteed to be an x850xt because they all have r480 cores, but I might be mistaken.

These are some sweet results, my gto2 should be here tomorrow or monday...just need an opteron and motherboard...it will be a very pretty paper weight for a few weeks :toast:

DamienKC
10-12-2005, 10:11 PM
Hmmm oh well, an x800xt is still better than an x800pro...at least I hope it will be, my x800pro was mighty fine. :). If it wont unlock I'm pretty much going to kill myself.

Jupiler, will you PM me the exact directions it says for Connect3D x800GTO's? I like specific details and knowing exactly what to do when it comes to stuff like this. Including bios and whatnot. Thanks!

Jupiler
10-12-2005, 10:49 PM
PM send.

TEDY
10-12-2005, 11:45 PM
if you got 1.6ns ram apply the memory tweaks in this forum helps alot :D btw is that 72c core? wow highest i get inder load was 61 with the stock hs and i got 6950 in 05 yesterday, im so pissed lol

how do you check for 1.6 and where's that memory tweaks? :toast:

mongoled
10-13-2005, 12:25 AM
Read a topic on a German forum today where 6-7 guys succesfully flashed their Connect3D X800GTO cards to X800XT.
Yesterday, I saw that same card laying on the shelf of the store I buy most of my stuff.
Quickly called them and asked if they still had it (it was the only one).
Was still there. Drove to the store after work and picked it up.
The manager was very interessted to see if the card would unlock (so he could get himself one :D )

The card looked exactly the same as my regular X800XT. After preparing the necesary files for flashing, I went ahead.
Card successfully flashed at X800XT, 16p. Recognized as R423 by ATI Tool.

Made a quick 3D05 run to check the performance.
Scored 6433 marks on a non tweaked system, card slightly oc'ed at 520/540.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1313001

Will test more tomorrow to see how far it will go.
One of my better buys this year.

Thank you very much for tht informative post, ive been waiting for someone over here to verify tht some of these Connect3D cards work as well for pipe-unlocking! Its good to see you are from Europe also as we tend to share the components from similar batches. A good chance of UK stock being like the one you got from Belgium

:toast:

As for the X800XT or X850XT is their any real differences to the max ovrclk we will see. From wht I remember the max ovrclks of both cores are very similar correct? With either core, we should be hoping for nice silicon, being the most important factor

Look what arrived for me today! :D

Hehe, installing XP Pro ATM. Results later.
Hey NickS is it possible you could check your core?? I would like to know wht your core says on it. I think this is very importnat information for XS members, i tell you why. Some of the reports of Connect3D GTO not working have been put down to the core type. Well we know tht Jupiler core does not have R480 on it but X800 and it works, now if your card has R480 on it and it works we will have two XS members reporting successful unlocking of both cores on Connect3D GTO cards

:banana:

Congrats on all members who have this card, time to put X800XL for sale!!!

Jupiler
10-13-2005, 02:43 AM
Here's a pic from both cores (BBA X800XT vs Connect3D X800GTO), so you can see they're both X800.

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/x800xt.jpg


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/x800gto.jpg

Vapor
10-13-2005, 04:30 AM
Here's a pic from both cores (BBA X800XT vs Connect3D X800GTO), so you can see they're both X800.

imagesIs there much depth to the etching on that core in the first one?? That doesn't look too good....anyway, good to see the GTO using the same core as the X800XT.

Jupiler
10-13-2005, 04:43 AM
Don't really understand what you're trying to say Eric.

Vapor
10-13-2005, 04:45 AM
Sorry about that....haven't slept in awhile :stick:

In the first image....it looks like the words/logo have a decent amount of depth, do they? Almost like it was tool etched rather than laser etched...

Anyway, it's OT and not pertinent, it just caught my eye.

EDIT: upon further inspection, those cores aren't the same....the GTO's is wider, meaning that, while it does say X800 like the XT does, it doesn't mean it'll have 16 working pipes and it's just as random as it was before :(

Ozan Baseski
10-13-2005, 05:25 AM
Hello everybody
From all this conversation I realized that all of the Sapphire GTO2's would have a 100% chance of success for getting to 16 pipelines. I have a 256 mb Sapphire X800GTO Fireblade Edition Pci-ex. card on my computer clocked just as 400/980 with 12 pipelines active by default just like the gto2's. When I checked with atitool it says that I have R480 core gpu. However I read the article on techpowerup for the modding process and I don't have those F's as stated over there. Do I also have a chance of softmodding this card? If I flashed a 256mb Sapphire X850XT bios, would I damage the card or would it work? Maybe some hardmodding required but I must know if those 4 pipelines work well in order to hardmod the gpu. So I appreciate if you could help me solving this issue. Thank you

Jupiler
10-13-2005, 05:26 AM
It doesn't look wider to me.
It's the inscription that's more centered on the GTO than on the X800XT. Maybe that's why it looks wider.

Vapor
10-13-2005, 05:28 AM
Ozan Beseski....it does not look like yours is moddable if you don't have the Fs in the right places. I'm not sure if the newer cores can be hardmodded, maybe someone else does.

Jupiler....alright, it probably is because the text is more centered, thx for the info.

einCe
10-13-2005, 05:53 AM
how do you check for 1.6 and where's that memory tweaks? :toast:
heres the tweaks http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55485
it has slipped my mind on how to check but it shouldnt hurt to try, just make sure to lower your mem by about 50-70 before applying the clocks because they run faster, but hotter

TEDY
10-13-2005, 06:13 AM
thanks EINCE, getting gfx in 2 hours :)

187(V)URD@
10-13-2005, 07:03 AM
Ordered myself a Connect3D X800GTO 256MB.

I report back in 2 weeks when i got my opteron.

G0DZILLA
10-13-2005, 08:56 AM
Guys you think its worth trading in my 6600 GT for this card ? The store by me has a Sapphire X800 GTO2 what you think ??? and they go up to XT speeds ?

Millyons
10-13-2005, 09:02 AM
Guys you think its worth trading in my 6600 GT for this card ? The store by me has a Sapphire X800 GTO2 what you think ??? and they go up to XT speeds ?


YES man 6600gt is slower than GTO and yet alone when it mods to x850xt at what ever clock speed

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 09:35 AM
Thats the best I can get. Any higher and she conks out!! :slapass:....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/ashish7949/x800gto2speed.jpg

Is that good or bad? Would some Arctic Silver help? During the test, i set the fan on to full towards the end, and temps dropped from 65ish to 57 during load :)

I guess its time to say goodbye to my ol' faithful 6600GT. Had it for over a year..bought it when they just came out. Used to do 565/1192 MHz and I had a lot of fun with it. It'll be missed :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/ashish7949/PA120084.jpg

On the bright side, I'm now on my 1st ever ATi card and am lovin' it :D

pancake
10-13-2005, 09:53 AM
id say thats bloddy good for £150 as5 will get you a drop in temps maybe a few mhz on core, mine will be here tomorow , what cooling are you using on it? i orderd a zalman vf700 cooler , i may stick my water block on it , i was planning on getting rid of all my xtreme cooling and going back to air but i may be tempted to just keep the water for the gt02

TEDY
10-13-2005, 09:55 AM
so what then

ZALMAN VF700CU or any ARTIC COOLER ?

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 09:56 AM
id say thats bloddy good for £150 as5 will get you a drop in temps maybe a few mhz on core, mine will be here tomorow , what cooling are you using on it? i orderd a zalman vf700 cooler , i may stick my water block on it , i was planning on getting rid of all my xtreme cooling and going back to air but i may be tempted to just keep the water for the gt02
Thanks. all stock cooling :D

BTW, what the :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: is this?
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8751496

23k in 2001!! I goy 22k with a 6600GT FFS :slapass: :slap: :stick:

Somebody help me out here..... :confused:

(3d mark 2005 seems OK - get 6669)

TEDY
10-13-2005, 10:10 AM
K.I.T.T.

3DMARK 2001SE is more dependant from CPU not GPU :)

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 10:20 AM
Oh!! Had me worried there :D

BTW:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1312950

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4322629 (gonna break 14k, just you wait :D)

:toast:

TEDY
10-13-2005, 11:18 AM
YOU should get more then 14k in 3dmark 2003, remember X800XL from Charlie ????

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 11:22 AM
YOU should get more then 14k in 3dmark 2003, remember X800XL from Charlie ????
no....what hapenned? :confused:

Still struggling to break 14k lol. Now my best is 13933 as opposed to 13915.... :slapass:

TEDY
10-13-2005, 11:24 AM
Nothing but he got over 13k but hey who can beat this card for 200-230$ :D

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 11:27 AM
yeah thats true. Most of these outdo clocked X850XTs and cost like a fraction of them :D

These are going to run out soon....limited edition :(. Should be pwnage in crossfire :D

TEDY, have you got yours yet (or getting)? If so, what clocks do you get? :)

shimmishim
10-13-2005, 11:44 AM
is it worth getting an x800gto2 if i already have a x800xtpe?

G0DZILLA
10-13-2005, 11:51 AM
Do all GTO2 from sapphire FLASH ?

TEDY
10-13-2005, 11:53 AM
yep i already got it but will install it tomorrow ...here're some pics ;)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/8172/img06348mm.th.jpg (http://img348.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img06348mm.jpg)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/2184/img06358cv.th.jpg (http://img348.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img06358cv.jpg)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/9592/img06380qd.th.jpg (http://img348.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img06380qd.jpg)

TEDY
10-13-2005, 11:53 AM
is it worth getting an x800gto2 if i already have a x800xtpe?

Nah not much gain.

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 12:35 PM
Do all GTO2 from sapphire FLASH ?
So far there's been a very good success rate. 100 % to be exact :D
If I heard a card failed to flah, i'd eat my hat ;)

BTW, Catalyst 5.10 Drivers are now out. Am downloading them now. Hope to break 14k in 3D Mark 03 :)

Aleman
10-13-2005, 12:52 PM
So far there's been a very good success rate. 100 % to be exact :D
If I heard a card failed to flah, i'd eat my hat ;)

Or call him n00b hehehe.

pancake
10-13-2005, 12:52 PM
TRONIK got over 15k with a x800xl link (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3973623) @ 579/612 i think K.I.T.T is gonna get lower scores due to using a pentium processor. will see how mine fairs with my x24800 tomorow

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 01:27 PM
Need I say more?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/damienisblind/Random%20Stuff/x850xt.jpg

Best $175 ever :)

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 01:35 PM
Nice clocks :)

Wont it go any higher? id expect the memory to do 580 MHz atleast. probably in excess of 600 MHz.

BTW, still not been able to crak 14k in 3D Mark 03 :slapass:. Now standing at 13941!!! grrrrrr.......

Anyway to volt-mod the core through the bios like you can do with some nVidia cards (did it on my 6600GT)? I really don't want to hard-mod this right now, as Ive just had it for 36 hours :D

NickS
10-13-2005, 01:36 PM
Mine said R423 in ATi Tool before I flashed, R480 afterwards.

HousERaT
10-13-2005, 01:49 PM
Mine said R423 in ATi Tool before I flashed, R480 afterwards.
ATI Tool like all other software just reads from the bios.

TEDY
10-13-2005, 01:51 PM
DamienKC your CONNECT 3D X800GT flashed to 16 pipes ?

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 01:57 PM
DamienKC your CONNECT 3D X800GT flashed to 16 pipes ?
That was a X800GT? and I thought it was a GTO2!! :rolleyes: my bad :am:

If it did, its an even better bargain than the GTO2!! :slobber:

Still, the GTO2 rulez :D

shimmishim
10-13-2005, 01:59 PM
isn't R423 x800 core, not x850.

i thought R480 was x850 and R423 was x800

correct me if i'm wrong


Need I say more?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/damienisblind/Random%20Stuff/x850xt.jpg

Best $175 ever :)

Jupiler
10-13-2005, 02:07 PM
Yep, that's correct.

shimmishim
10-13-2005, 02:09 PM
so DamienKC's sig is incorrect.

he has a x800 not x850 :O

Malachia
10-13-2005, 02:11 PM
no, he just flashed with an x800 bios and not an x850 one...atitool for core is useless, to know yu must read on it!

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 02:13 PM
wellllllllllll thats true, but I overclocked it to x850

=D

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 02:16 PM
oh, and i haven't even TRIED overclocking past x850xt specs yet, so I bet it'll do more, i'm just letting the as5 sit in and whatnot. I'll be getting a new gpu cooler soon. This sucker runs pretty cool too, 35c idle, where as my x800pro was 42c idle. Load only gets up to 62c, where my x800pro saw 72

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 02:21 PM
So its still on 12 pipelines? or 16? :confused:

I wanna see benchies :D

TEDY
10-13-2005, 02:21 PM
which cooler ?

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 02:34 PM
It's fully unlocked to 16 pipes, stock cooling.

I'm currently scanning @ 560/570 with no artifacts yet. If it keeps that up I'll start benching. Don't expect anything mind shattering with a 2.65ghz winnie and value ram though :D

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 02:48 PM
OK i just ran 560/575 and it's fine. 570 core freezes my computer and 580 gets pixel errors. This is on STOCK COOLING with fresh as5 so that may get better when I get some ramsinks and better cooling. My core hit 77c while running artifact scanner for 10 mins though, which is just rediculous, but ATi Tool's scanner is very harsh and I have yet to see any game get my core past 60c on my x800pro. Benches are going to be ran right now, I'll show results when done =)

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 03:13 PM
BENCHING RESULTS

Well, I'm done, and I was very pleased and suprised by the results.

First thing's first. The settings:
AMD64 Winchester @ 2.65ghz (295x9)
2x512mb ram @ 221mhz 2.5-3-3-7
x800gto -> 16 pipe @ 561/573

Catalyst 5.10
NO special 3D Mark tweaks were done, this is my 24/7 rig
Stock cooling on gpu with no extra fans on or around the core/ram

3D Mark 03: 14071 (click to see pic of all settings) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/damienisblind/Random%20Stuff/3dmark03_14071.jpg)

3D Mark 05: 6867 (again, click for pic) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/damienisblind/Random%20Stuff/3dmark05_6867.jpg)

I don't really know what to set drivers for with catalyst to get better scores, but I bet with an opteron 939 and my old VX, 7k would have been cake =)

Ozan Baseski
10-13-2005, 03:15 PM
Hello guys, if I try to flash my Sapphire x800gto Fireblade Edition Card's bios to Sapphire x850xt bios would there be any risk of damaging the card if the mod doesn't work? Or do you know if it really works or not?

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 03:17 PM
Ozan : AFAIK, the only Sapphire version of the GTO series that work is the GTO2, so if it were my card, I would not take the risk. :(

NickS
10-13-2005, 03:26 PM
Raped my scores. I still cant get my ram above 1010 MHz, anyone wanna offer some help?

einCe
10-13-2005, 03:39 PM
Anyway to volt-mod the core through the bios like you can do with some nVidia cards (did it on my 6600GT)? I really don't want to hard-mod this right now, as Ive just had it for 36 hours id like to know this too, my core locks at 570 as well

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 03:40 PM
I don't believe so =\

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 03:46 PM
I'm really tempted to reflash to clocks 560/573, since I changed it using rabit, but IDK, if it aint broke dont fix it right? =P

NickS
10-13-2005, 06:00 PM
Dang you guys are getting nice RAM clocks, HOOWWWWWW. :( :'(

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 06:08 PM
whoa whoa whoa, my card just hit 82c and restarted...time to remount my heatsink I suppose...

NickS
10-13-2005, 06:18 PM
Yikes. Watch those temps!! :)

@ Damien, Did you mod your Ram timings for yuor video card to get those awesome ram clocks?

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 06:26 PM
Nope I didn't...you can get better ram clocks by loosening timings? any link to say what you can make them?

DamienKC
10-13-2005, 06:28 PM
Temps calmed down a bit, but it's up to 42c idle...dunno whats up with that. Guess I should save up some money and get a new gpu sink. Wish I had water cooling =\

einCe
10-13-2005, 06:33 PM
looser timing will let you get higher than normal clocks, but since they are loose it wont have as much effect. get the tighter timing in the 3d forum for x850's im running 600 mem with them on

WesM63
10-13-2005, 06:42 PM
Guys just and FYI. When i flashed my bios, flashmod (or w/e the name of the software was) also said my core was R423 didn't stop me ;)

I'll be picking up a VNF-700 here asap, althou my late night spending spree has left my bank account pretty dry lol.

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 09:35 PM
Nice scores DamienKC!! :toast:
Looks like my rig is getting raped because im using a P4. My card is on 16 pipelines at 579/615 MHz, and im getting 13941 in 3dm03 and 6669 in 3dm05. Its the P4 right? Cant wait for yonah to come out... :hehe:

WesM63
10-13-2005, 09:38 PM
Well I was hitting 6336 with old install of windows, old ATI drivers and A64 winny @ 2.3ghz. VC was at 540/590.

I havn't touched a P4 in ages, but I wouldn't say your doing horrable. ;)


(beats the 6600GT any day.. hands down. Thats all I was after)

LexDiamonds
10-13-2005, 09:54 PM
Everyone should be sure and check out the newest catalyst drivers too (5.10). They are susposed to provide a decent boost in x800 series performance. Doubt it will do anything for 3DM01, but 05 may see a boost.

K.I.T.T.
10-13-2005, 09:56 PM
yep. Same here. i dont upgrade to bench - just when i need to. The 6600GT was showing its age. No doubt it was a great card, but having it over a year, I can tell it was starting to struggle. In NFS-U2 for example after a burnout when theres a lot of particle rendering, you can tell your FPS is very low, then it shoots up all of a sudden after the smokes dissapeared. None of that with this card :D TBH, games LOOK slightly better and run mcuh smother on this at the same settings (1280x1024, 4xaa, 8xaf)
Still not reinstalled doom 3 (for about 8 months now :D) so will run a timedemo later when i get back from school. Its 6 AM and i need to do my homework :stick:

Ozan Baseski
10-14-2005, 01:19 AM
Guys I decided to take the risk and flashed my 256mb Sapphire X800GTO Fireblade Edition video card with the modded X800GTO2 bios supplied in the techpowerup site. I flashed it with the atiflash in the dos screen. After booting windows recognized the card as x800/850 series and I reinstalled the drivers. Everything worked OK till there. However after I checked the card with rivatuner and ati tool, I saw that it's still at 12 pipes and I was really disappointed to see this result. So is this a laser cut gpu? Should it be hardmodded to activate the last quad of pipes? Or should I use flashrom instead of atiflash for this bios? Do you have any opinions about this matter?

pancake
10-14-2005, 01:28 AM
Nice scores DamienKC!! :toast:
Looks like my rig is getting raped because im using a P4. My card is on 16 pipelines at 579/615 MHz, and im getting 13941 in 3dm03 and 6669 in 3dm05. Its the P4 right? Cant wait for yonah to come out... :hehe:

yea techpowerup only got 12869 in 03 with a 3.0 p4 f , look at how much damien got with a slow clocked a64 and generic ram , shame i dont have any seal string to remount my mach 2 gt to my x2 and run some benches @ 3.1 when my x800 gets here. damn postman better hurry up , im getting impatient

NickS
10-14-2005, 03:44 AM
looser timing will let you get higher than normal clocks, but since they are loose it wont have as much effect. get the tighter timing in the 3d forum for x850's im running 600 mem with them on

I'm using them now, and I still cant get any higher. It artifact's all yellow & blotchy on the Cube in the artifact tester. :(

pancake
10-14-2005, 04:36 AM
got my x800gto2 now , currently artifact scanning at 540/590 xtpe clocks. got a zalman vf700 copeer fan/heatsink on there temps are 55c loaded and 30c idle. gonna try for max core speed now

Matt Hirst
10-14-2005, 05:19 AM
Pancake,

Excellant let us know how you get on as am thinking of fitting the zalman to mine this weekend.

regards,

Matt

pancake
10-14-2005, 05:24 AM
did the max core check with ati tool , when i came back pc had froze , restarted and it said last good frequency 590 core , so i set it to that and scanned for artifacts which ran for 10 minutes ok so i moved to mem that settled at around 630 , will run some 3d mark later see what i get , not expecting much as i only have my x2 @ 2.5 on air at the moment

pancake
10-14-2005, 05:35 AM
did a quick 01 @ 580/615 to compare with K.I.T.T 's run and got around 29K (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8752464) didnt want to try at max clocks incase it crashes as im downloading something i need quickly. will get 03 after my dl is done and try that. that beats my x800xl and winnie @ 2.7 by about 400 points

einCe
10-14-2005, 07:56 AM
I'm using them now, and I still cant get any higher. It artifact's all yellow & blotchy on the Cube in the artifact tester. :(
the timings arent supposed to allow you to get higher memory, the timings make the ememory more efficient, using the timings lower your mem till it dont artifact then do a 3dmark run, then after that apply stock timings and do another and see how much you gained from them

pancake
10-14-2005, 08:26 AM
using the autodetect feature in f.e.a.r multi player demo it sets my settings to medium everything with gt02 @ 580/615, on my x800xl it set it all to high.. weird

WesM63
10-14-2005, 08:29 AM
pancake,
I played Fear SP demo last night with everything set to maximum. I don't know the exact framerates, but it wasn't "unplayable".

einCe
10-14-2005, 09:47 AM
i set all high except textures which are set to medium 2180x1024 2xaa and it runs around 50 fps :F

DamienKC
10-14-2005, 09:49 AM
got my x800gto2 now , currently artifact scanning at 540/590 xtpe clocks. got a zalman vf700 copeer fan/heatsink on there temps are 55c loaded and 30c idle. gonna try for max core speed now

Nice temps man! 30c idle is REALLY nice, as I'm getting 42c idle now. I still have stock heatsink, but just getting a zalman wont bring my idle down 12c. I'm jealous :P. My card hit 82c randomly yesterday and froze my pc. I should really save for a zalman.

TEDY
10-14-2005, 10:43 AM
so more and more suggestions goes to Zalman VF700 CU :)

DamienKC
10-14-2005, 11:01 AM
Hmmm, I have a choice. I can get an opty 146 or another C3D X800GTO and go crossfire with 'x800xt's when i get my board. hmmm...

TEDY
10-14-2005, 11:09 AM
both :D

or get me opty 146 and you take C3D X800GTO.

DataNusse
10-14-2005, 11:37 AM
I'am a lucky guy! :)
Connect3D X800GTO modded to 16 pipes.

And here som nice scores: 7106 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1319281)

DamienKC
10-14-2005, 11:59 AM
NICE core clock man! Cooling/modding info? If thats all stock I envy you. =)

edit : just got to thinking...do you think using the 6-prong power adapter built into the PSU gives less power then the molex adapter the video card comes with? Like, what if I plugged in both molexs and used the adapter, would it get mroe power, thus a better overclock?

K.I.T.T.
10-14-2005, 01:00 PM
NICE core clock man! Cooling/modding info? If thats all stock I envy you. =)

edit : just got to thinking...do you think using the 6-prong power adapter built into the PSU gives less power then the molex adapter the video card comes with? Like, what if I plugged in both molexs and used the adapter, would it get mroe power, thus a better overclock?
Nope. Tried that already. I had no difference in ocing performance. Initially i was on a akasa adater with 6 wires and connetors to 2 molexes. Now im on the adaptor that came with the card as it makes my case tidy :D

TEDY
10-14-2005, 01:12 PM
where do you plug adaptor to mobo?

K.I.T.T.
10-14-2005, 01:18 PM
Nooooo. He's talking about the 6 pin pci-e connector that you plug into the socket at the top right corner of the card. If your PSU doesnt have such a connector, you need to use a 4 pin molex to 6 pin PCI-e adaptor like supplied with the card. But that adaptor only connects to one molex (3 wires) He was asking if an adaptor that connects to 2 molex connectors with5 wires would be more stable. Ill try to get a picture.....

(I think thats what he was asking...lol. Im not sure lol)

DamienKC
10-14-2005, 01:19 PM
Hm darn, I was hoping I had a 600+ core card sitting in my hands but not enough juice! :P

I guess volt modding is always an option.

K.I.T.T.
10-14-2005, 01:26 PM
Hm darn, I was hoping I had a 600+ core card sitting in my hands but not enough juice! :P

I guess volt modding is always an option.
Does anyone actually know how to volt mod these cards? AFAIK Its tricky to do so with a pencil, but is possible. I really dont want to solder anything onto it... . If soldering is the only option, I wont bother because i dont think its worth the effort. Im at 579/615 MHz, but really want 600/615 or better :stick:

BTW, i checked the voltage with my multimeter. When Idle in windows, the vcore is a a solid 1.40 volts, but drops to 1.39 under load (3d mark, games, etc). Im thinking modding it to 1.45 volts will help and should be safe on stock cooling. Mine stays under 60*C at all times so heat isnt an issue at the moment :)

DamienKC
10-14-2005, 01:37 PM
If you figure out/find a link to pencil mod these cards, LMK! It's probably VERY similar to x800pro/xt/x850xt's. I've never voltmodded but I wouldn't mind doing so if it's clean enough.

K.I.T.T.
10-14-2005, 01:42 PM
Here ya go: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/voltmods/112/1 :D

The PCB is EXACTLY the same, and the point where it says to measure to check the VGPU works here :). using a pencil however looks a bit dodgy :stick:

I voltmoded before. Did it to my 6600GT. using a pencil, went from 1.4 to 1.7 volts on the VGPU. Didnt help though. Just made my card run hotter, and when overclocked, artifacted like hell :D :stick:

DamienKC
10-14-2005, 02:42 PM
Too bad I don't have a multimeter, otherwise i'd try it :P

Supertim0r
10-14-2005, 03:49 PM
jus got my card...run cool :eek:
results tonight

Supertim0r
10-14-2005, 08:04 PM
flashed straight @ X850XT PE bios...
first 3dmark2001 run (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8753228) (1st run over 30k too :banana: )

gocchin
10-14-2005, 08:39 PM
flashed straight @ X850XT PE bios...
first 3dmark2001 run (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8753228) (1st run over 30k too :banana: )

Very nice.... ;)

Supertim0r
10-14-2005, 09:47 PM
Very nice.... ;)

thanks m8 !

Aleman
10-14-2005, 10:33 PM
For the record guys.

I have tried 3 GTO2's so far. 2 of em were NOT stable at XTPE speeds (maybe coz of the tiny cooler) but 1 did make it and has not been anyslower than 540/590 since the time i flashed it (1min after i took her out of her box) :D!!!!!

eviLRuLeZ
10-15-2005, 06:37 AM
Can you guys tell me how many points did you win when flashing to 16pp?

I got this with 12pp..

http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/9273/3dm036ya.th.jpg (http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dm036ya.jpg)


thanks :)

Vapor
10-15-2005, 06:39 AM
Maybe 1200 more points that you from what I've seen.....13066 is an excellent score with 12pp!

eviLRuLeZ
10-15-2005, 06:41 AM
Ok great Vapor :)

Yes It seems to be a good score, the cpu must help a bit with 2800 mhz I think too.
I will flash It tonight.. I am going to buy an usb key this afternoon in order to flash the card.. :)

Ozan Baseski
10-15-2005, 02:22 PM
I wish I could have activated my Sapphire X800GTO Fireblade Edition card's last four pipes. I got some nice results with just 12 pipes. I flashed the modded gto2 bios with flashom, the card accepted the bios but the four pipes haven't been activated. Here are the results

eviLRuLeZ
10-15-2005, 03:32 PM
http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/7474/3dm03z1xk.th.jpg (http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dm03z1xk.jpg)

http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/5461/68573dm05z2ld.th.jpg (http://img419.imageshack.us/my.php?image=68573dm05z2ld.jpg)

Supertim0r
10-15-2005, 08:05 PM
Xtreme members please find me working vmod :D

NickS
10-15-2005, 09:25 PM
New results using the Modded Connect3D BIOS from Techpowerup!. This bios is AWESOME.

http://images.nicks.blitz-host.net/computer/benches/2001.PNG

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8754396

http://images.nicks.blitz-host.net/computer/benches/2003.PNG

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4328625

http://images.nicks.blitz-host.net/computer/benches/2005.PNG

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1325493

http://images.nicks.blitz-host.net/computer/cpu.PNG

http://images.nicks.blitz-host.net/computer/mbrd.PNG

http://images.nicks.blitz-host.net/computer/ram.PNG

:slobber: :D

einCe
10-15-2005, 09:29 PM
I wish I could have activated my Sapphire X800GTO Fireblade Edition card's last four pipes. I got some nice results with just 12 pipes. I flashed the modded gto2 bios with flashom, the card accepted the bios but the four pipes haven't been activated. Here are the results
can you please tell me how i scored better than you in 3dmark05 with lower clocks and a 3000 venice (570/600 and i got 6950)

TEDY
10-16-2005, 02:55 AM
which bios is better then ?????

dinos22
10-16-2005, 03:39 AM
hey Nick

man i am little surprised that i beat you with my cheapo X800NP card default rated 390/350 12pipes........running at 429/554....you definately need a better CPU and RAM............. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8754396

New results using the Modded Connect3D BIOS from Techpowerup!. This bios is AWESOME.

http://images.nicks.blitz-host.net/computer/benches/2001.PNG

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8754396
:slobber: :D

TEDY
10-16-2005, 04:04 AM
when i boot from floopy it says :

DISK I/O error
Replace the disk, and then press any key

wtf?

Umek
10-16-2005, 04:08 AM
http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/3735/dibujo3ew.jpg

Max OC 530core 620mem

Jupiler
10-16-2005, 04:09 AM
when i boot from floopy it says :

DISK I/O error
Replace the disk, and then press any key

wtf?

Probably, your floppy is borked. Try another floppy disc.

TEDY
10-16-2005, 04:21 AM
Tried already 2 floppy discs :(

K.I.T.T.
10-16-2005, 04:25 AM
when i boot from floopy it says :

DISK I/O error
Replace the disk, and then press any key

wtf?
thats a bootable floppy right? reformat the floppy in windows, but select "make a boot disk (or something like that)" and then copy the flashrom and modded bios onto it :D

TEDY
10-16-2005, 04:32 AM
yep KITT did that.....create a MS-DOS bootable disk hehe

pancake
10-16-2005, 04:51 AM
some 3d 05 with my x2 @ 2.7 590/615 on gto2

http://img41.imagevenue.com/loc31/th_da8_3d05.jpg (http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc31&image=da8_3d05.jpg)

TEDY
10-16-2005, 04:59 AM
it was floppy disc, now is ok @16p

weeeeeeeeeee

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8996/default0uw.jpg

einCe
10-16-2005, 05:08 AM
wow what the hellis going on here, my card is clocked lower than pancake's too and i only have a 3000 venice and i only a few points short. im not bragging but wtf lol.

TEDY
10-16-2005, 05:33 AM
voila all default excellent gfx at 540/590

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/8545/3dmark20037su.jpg

what's the max temperature to be safe while using atitool or playing games ?

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3103/5606001bs.jpg

eviLRuLeZ
10-16-2005, 05:54 AM
voila all default excellent gfx at 540/590

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/8545/3dmark20037su.jpg

what's the max temperature to be safe while using atitool or playing games ?

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3103/5606001bs.jpg

I think that 70° is the max, on my computer it's something like 60° max for memory and something like 50° for gpu.
You should cool better your graphic card in order to increase frequency, I mean in order not to be limited.. :)

TEDY
10-16-2005, 06:15 AM
3D MARK 2001SE (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8755007)

Ozan Baseski
10-16-2005, 06:30 AM
wow what the hellis going on here, my card is clocked lower than pancake's too and i only have a 3000 venice and i only a few points short. im not bragging but wtf lol.

You scored better than me in 3dmark 05 perhaps you have activated the last four pipes and make the card work with 16 pipelines. I just got the results with 12 pipes. And you know that the most important thing in 3dmark 2005 is the video card and not the cpu or ram

K.I.T.T.
10-16-2005, 06:38 AM
@ TEDY

ATi recommends a maximum core temp of 105*C, but its best to stay below 75*C. you should start worrying at 80. With the stock HSF, mine never goes above 61*C at 579/615 MHz

The fan settings are this:

Its absolutely silent in windows, and in games, its reasonably quiet. My volume is turned up anyway :D

TEDY
10-16-2005, 06:44 AM
what is that tool you using?

K.I.T.T.
10-16-2005, 06:47 AM
ATi tray tools :)

BTW, you'l have to check "include in profile" and then click apply, and then click save as for it to work everytime you load windows.......

TEDY
10-16-2005, 06:51 AM
weird 3dmark 2003 freezes at 560/600

proc 300*9
mem 5/6 around 245 2-2-2-10

K.I.T.T.
10-16-2005, 07:00 AM
Maybe CPU?

TEDY
10-16-2005, 07:12 AM
ran S&M no problems hehe....will try more hehe

mongoled
10-16-2005, 07:34 AM
Great going peeps,

Just sold my X800XL on eBay, will be going for a Connect3D X800GTO from the UK, order will be placed on Monday, I hope to have the card with me early the following week, or if im really lucky by Friday.

Will post results when I get them

K.I.T.T.
10-16-2005, 11:48 AM
Bump...

TEDY
10-16-2005, 11:58 AM
grrrrr only 560/600 :(

Umek
10-16-2005, 11:59 AM
grrrrr only 560/600 :(

i only 520/620

Gautam
10-16-2005, 12:00 PM
grrrrr only 560/600 :(

That's about on par with what my X800 XT PE does...no need for disappointment whatsoever, especially considering the price...mod the biatch up now and watch it fly.

ZX7891
10-16-2005, 12:11 PM
atacom still hasnt shipped my GTO2 and i ordered it a week ago

TEDY
10-16-2005, 12:11 PM
I'll buy VF700 CU soon and apply some AS5 :)

Should see some improvement, right ? :)

Supertim0r
10-16-2005, 12:30 PM
I'm thinking sending my card to Viper John ... (maybe 630-650 mem/core 24/7 possible)