View Full Version : Any GTO/GTO2 > 16 pipelines results yet?
Aleman
10-16-2005, 12:56 PM
I have tested 4 GTO2's and just 2 of them did 540/590 (or more?) and 2 did NOT make it.
I have tested 4 GTO2's and just 2 of them did 540/590 (or more?) and 2 did NOT make it.
Is that on stock cooling? If so I wouldn't be surprised to see one or both do XT PE (or at least XT) speeds with appropriate cooling, like a VGA Silencer. ATI didn't go for the dual-slot solution for nothing.
-aMp-
yep 560/600 is max here...
K.I.T.T.
10-16-2005, 11:34 PM
Im happy here with 579/615 :D
These things rock!! :D :D
Supertim0r
10-17-2005, 06:27 AM
my card clock around 570/600 with a X850XT PE bios (thighter timings than the x800gto2 16p)
waiting better cooling on wednesday (ATI Silencer 5 Rev.2)
I would really like to find vmod for an X850XT but all I've found is this (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=2184)
I you have a nice vmod guide fell free to link :rolleyes:
Please can anyone point me to some pics of Sapphire X800 GTO2 with Zalman VF700CU ??????? 10X
pancake
10-17-2005, 06:40 AM
ill take a pic of mine when im home later
http://www.avault.com/hardware/images/SX800GTO2_09.jpg
K.I.T.T.
10-17-2005, 07:47 AM
The thermal paste they put on was appaling...seemes like soggy tissue paper. I replaced mine with AS5
LexDiamonds
10-17-2005, 08:36 AM
The thermal paste they put on was appaling...seemes like soggy tissue paper. I replaced mine with AS5
Actually, for a stock solution, that looks pretty damn nice.... Copper GPU plate w/ total TIM coverage and ram module cooling to boot!
Obviously, for a nice OC, this will not do but thumbs up to Sapphire on this one. The GTO2 was truly a diamond in the rough before the horrible price gouging.
LexDiamonds
10-17-2005, 08:37 AM
Oh--
Here is the link I have for the Vmod guide for these cards. It is the same pcb as seen in this article:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/voltmods/112/1
NickS
10-17-2005, 09:47 AM
Since my RAM cant overclock for balls, I ordered some copper BGA sinks :p.
K.I.T.T.
10-17-2005, 10:41 AM
Plays F.E.A.R. like a dream. 1024x768 with 2xaa, 2xaf and everything on maximum - 60 FPS :D
Wish i could see how it performed at 1280x1024 :stick:
PS.. there are some game slowdowns where it stutters...I think this may need more ram? any ways to tweak the game to get rid of the stutters?
pancake
10-17-2005, 12:58 PM
yea dunno whats up with the retail release of fear , the mp demo ran like a dream 2x aa 4xaf 1024x768 everything max on my x800 xl , on the gt it stutters like a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
Supertim0r
10-17-2005, 01:43 PM
Could I use 2x X800GTO2 in CF with the new DFI board ? :confused:
kosmonova
10-17-2005, 01:53 PM
Hi guys ; Where can I buy sapphire x800gto2 cheapest ??
pancake
10-17-2005, 03:21 PM
Could I use 2x X800GTO2 in CF with the new DFI board ? :confused:
you need a mastercard , which i doubt theyll do
cheapest place to get a gto2 in u.k is overclockers
K.I.T.T.
10-17-2005, 03:46 PM
Could I use 2x X800GTO2 in CF with the new DFI board ? :confused:
It should work with a x850 series master card if theyre released....
Probmaker
10-18-2005, 06:21 AM
my results:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8753314
http://overclockers.at/attachment.php?attachmentid=86114
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1321977
card was on stock cooling...:(
//EDIT: lol, omg... my sig is damn old^^
187(V)URD@
10-18-2005, 10:10 AM
Euhm i know a webshop that got a x800gto² lite.
Anyone can confirm this core is the good for an x850xt?
http://www.descom.be/x800gto2_core.jpg
so i bought Zalman VF 700 CU
100% is suitable for this gfx?
LexDiamonds
10-18-2005, 10:23 AM
Could some more people who have the gto2 post the date on their R480 core? I just recieved the first of 3 :rolleyes: cards and this first one has a core date of 0453! Its ancient! I'm worried these older cores might not clock as well as the mid 05 ones.
Thanks!!
kosmonova
10-18-2005, 10:47 AM
where can I buy x800gto2 ??
LexDiamonds
10-18-2005, 11:01 AM
Newegg has them for $270 if you dont mind the :bananal:
Supertim0r
10-18-2005, 11:02 AM
The GTO2 I got are lite version too...
Supertim0r
10-18-2005, 11:15 AM
damn 270US $
they are 225$ @ suppliers...should be around 270CDN$ on webshop... :slapass:
187(V)URD@
10-18-2005, 11:27 AM
I ordered my x800gto² lite for 215€, thats 257US $
Supertim0r
10-18-2005, 11:35 AM
at least...it's a cheap X850XT :rolleyes:
Henrik-
10-18-2005, 01:20 PM
Would be nice if they could run CF .. 2 * X800GTO2 @ X850XT in CF would be great performance ...
pancake
10-18-2005, 01:44 PM
so i bought Zalman VF 700 CU
100% is suitable for this gfx?
yep im using one , i forgot to take a pic for you
yep please pancake...did you applied AS5 for memory as well or just used those blue ramsinks?
pancake
10-18-2005, 02:09 PM
i just used the ram sinks with the sticky pads , when i have more time i will remount them all with as5 and some thermal epoxy. using as5 on core though
NickS
10-18-2005, 02:13 PM
I just purchased Vantec IceBurq ramsinks for my card. I hope I can OC my ram to GTO2 levels, or at least higher than 1080MHz
pancake
10-18-2005, 02:15 PM
mine do 630 (1260) with just the zalman sinks no vmods
LexDiamonds
10-18-2005, 02:29 PM
Hate to keep spamming this thread, but can anyone post what week their R480 core is/was? Thanks.
NickS
10-18-2005, 03:46 PM
I will tmoz or the next day when I get my ram sinks. when I get them im takin off my HS (connect3d) and will be postin pix0rs of the heatsink on the bottom, & core :D.
stevke
10-19-2005, 12:54 AM
I've compared my score with this one: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8755007
This is my link:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8753834
My CPU was clocked to 10x250 2-2-2-5.
Why is my nature score so high?
My Card was at 550/625, this is the highest I can do with stock cooling, my core sucks, but the Mem is really good.
http://666kb.com/i/10v3blrdnha0w.png
Vapor
10-19-2005, 12:57 AM
The one you're comparing to doesn't have an unlocked core.....BUT more MHz on the CPU making the scores close. Your higher Nature makes up for your slower CPU.
tomati
10-19-2005, 01:25 AM
I ordered my x800gto² lite for 215€, thats 257US $
Where did you ordered it ? I'm from belgium too, the cheapest I have found was ~250€ in germany , too expensive I mean.
thanks.
stevke
10-19-2005, 04:22 AM
I've bought my GTO² in Vienna, Austria, for 239.90€ now the card is at 259.90€ at the same shop. :banana:
187(V)URD@
10-19-2005, 04:44 AM
Where did you ordered it ? I'm from belgium too, the cheapest I have found was ~250€ in germany , too expensive I mean.
thanks.
www.descom.be
PCBliss
10-19-2005, 07:14 AM
if you got 1.6ns ram apply the memory tweaks in this forum helps alot :D btw is that 72c core? wow highest i get inder load was 61 with the stock hs and i got 6950 in 05 yesterday, im so pissed lol
Where can i find these memory tweaks?
Vapor
10-19-2005, 07:54 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55485
tomati
10-19-2005, 08:11 AM
@ 187(V)URD@
thanks man.
Oh--
Here is the link I have for the Vmod guide for these cards. It is the same pcb as seen in this article:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/voltmods/112/1
OK, I'm all set to vmod! I've got a day off work, a conductive pen, some 2b pencils, a multimeter, and a healthy apprehension about #$%ing with expensive electrical equipment.
To get over the latter can I get some confirmation that that guide is the right one for the GTO2?
-aMp-
amp please take pictures :)
pancake
10-19-2005, 11:52 AM
cool the mem tweaks work and no artifacts for me.
run done with a 3200 winnie @2.7 512kb cache ( old run was with a X2 1mb and got 7015)cache , reckon i would of been around 7100 with x2
Supertim0r
10-19-2005, 12:34 PM
the techpowerup guide is what you need...
I'll vmod my card this weekend...wish I'll get my ATI silencer...
How can you calibrate the voltage with a pencil mode ? :confused:
amp : what kind of cooling ?
DamienKC
10-19-2005, 12:45 PM
Can anyone tell me what the DEFAULT mem timings for the C3D GTO -> Powercolor XT bios are? Just want to make sure I saved them right :)
I'm on water. Right now GPU @ 600MHz maxes out at 38-40C.
You calibrate pencil mod voltages with a multimeter, I'm guessing.
And Tedy -- I can arrange some pictures, but the one you posted above is exactly the same as mine. Same PCB, same stock HSF, same everything.
-aMp-
i meant pics for voltmod etc....
Supertim0r
10-19-2005, 03:44 PM
i meant pics for voltmod etc....
supposed to be the same pcb http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/voltmods/112/1
gocchin
10-19-2005, 08:18 PM
Took some pics of mine today... it really is a nice quality card...
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/gt02.jpg
LexDiamonds
10-19-2005, 08:23 PM
Nice glamour shots, but how about a pic of the core?
I have a 0453 that was bought from Newegg and am theorizing on the OC... just would like to see what other core dates people are getting.
Dazog
10-19-2005, 09:24 PM
I am running X850 XT speeds on with this card with a Zalman VF700-Cu
6170 3dmark 2005
Still have to try for PE speeds
I removed the stock heatsink
Man was it a mess under there!
Goo everywhere
I am running X850 XT speeds on with this card with a Zalman VF700-Cu
6170 3dmark 2005
Still have to try for PE speeds
I removed the stock heatsink
Man was it a mess under there!
Goo everywhere
Yeah, I'm not so sure about the thermal "foam" they used, but the stock cooling solution actually isn't bad. With the copper core it's heavier and more effective than it looks. Of course, I only used it for about six minutes before slapping on a Maze 4.
Tedy, if I work up the balls to do the mod I'll definitely post some pics (of the inevitable flaming wreckage). I'm still trying to figure the risk/benefit ratio. I've already got a card that can do 7000+ in 3DM05, so I'm a bit hesitant to mess with it. I'm getting some GPU instability at 600+ and artifacting with the mem over 625; if a VGPU or VDIMM boost would likely push those numbers to 650/650 stable, and I don't feel like my liberal arts degree makes success impossible, I'll hit that @$#% like I was banana number two.
You're right about risk/benefit ratio, don't risk this good card :)
Dazog: so it's quite a mess under eh? I'll mount VF 700 CU today.
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/1921/img06479bo.th.jpg (http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img06479bo.jpg)
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/659/img06434jv.th.jpg (http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img06434jv.jpg)
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/8059/img06457yg.th.jpg (http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img06457yg.jpg)
tomati
10-20-2005, 04:25 AM
Hi,
For those who have mounted the vf700cu , what did you gain ?
I did gain so far around 5°C cooler GPU/mem.....but in terms of overclocking i gained sorry to say pure :banana::banana::banana::banana:.......not even 10mhz GPU......something is holding these cards back.
tomati
10-20-2005, 04:47 AM
I did gain so far around 5°C cooler GPU/mem.....but in terms of overclocking i gained sorry to say pure :banana::banana::banana::banana:.......not even 10mhz GPU......something is holding these cards back.
Thanks for your honesty man,
I will just replace the stock foam by some artic silver céramique then.
K.I.T.T.
10-20-2005, 05:41 AM
[QUOTE=TEDY].....but in terms of overclocking i gained sorry to say pure :banana::banana::banana::banana:.......not even 10mhz GPU......QUOTE]
Loving the smileys :p:
:ROTF: :ROTF:
Maybe you should try volt modding it?
Jupiler
10-20-2005, 06:20 AM
Can anyone tell me what the DEFAULT mem timings for the C3D GTO -> Powercolor XT bios are? Just want to make sure I saved them right :)
Timings are the same on both cards.
pancake
10-20-2005, 07:25 AM
well i decided to try the vgpu mod , set it to 1.45 ( was 1.4 stock idle ) and tweaked so it was near 1.45 load as it was dropping to 1.43 load. ran ati tool max core it got to 610 ( 590 without mod ) and the pc froze no artifacts or anything so im guessing it wants more juice still ! temps peaked at 56c in a 3d mark 05 run and i gained a couple of hundred points. it says on the vmod guide that 1.45 is max for air cooled anyone think 1.475 is pushing it? as my temps are still low. will try vdd soon
edit: 3dmark was ran @ 605/615
http://img45.imagevenue.com/loc86/th_c82_Untitled.jpg (http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc86&image=c82_Untitled.jpg)
187(V)URD@
10-20-2005, 07:38 AM
Next week I got a x800GTO@x800XT and a X800GTO²@X850XT.
I'll see if i have some time to compare them.
Thanks for your honesty man,
I will just replace the stock foam by some artic silver céramique then.
Much better then waisting 30$...unless you're voltmoding it :slap:
pancake
10-20-2005, 11:18 AM
can someone post the memory timings at stock on sapphire gto2 from ati tool. i forgot to save mine and want to see how high the memory will clock with vdd mod , as with the modified timings i only get 610 on the mem , i was getting 630 with stock volts and timing before
thanks
pancake
10-20-2005, 11:37 AM
did a quick 05 run @ 610/630 with the modified mem timings
http://img43.imagevenue.com/loc10/th_28c_Untitled.jpg (http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc10&image=28c_Untitled.jpg)
pancake : what cooling you using? great ocing !!!! grrr mine sux
pancake
10-20-2005, 11:42 AM
zalman vf700 and vcore and vdd , not gained anything on mem yet. can you check ati tool and post the stock mem timings for me please
sure any chance to save info?
http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/9595/timings19jj.jpg
http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/9562/timings23zg.jpg
pancake
10-20-2005, 12:53 PM
excellent thanks tedy
Millyons
10-20-2005, 02:56 PM
Next week I got a x800GTO@x800XT and a X800GTO²@X850XT.
I'll see if i have some time to compare them.
when u say x800GTO@x800XT thats an Connect 3D card right?
Supertim0r
10-20-2005, 06:29 PM
should vmod my card this weekend...got my ati silencer...
do I need to perform those 3 vmod : VGPU, VDD & VDDQ ?
VGPU is core voltage, VDD I beleive is vmem & VDDQ ?
It will be aircooled...
edit : just saw IGPU mod... :confused:
Supertim0r
10-20-2005, 06:38 PM
sweet...found pics :)
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=3401
Super strokey
10-20-2005, 09:55 PM
i was thinking that i might get one of these and replace my 6800gt, worth it? gt only does ultra speeds.
pancake
10-21-2005, 04:53 AM
should vmod my card this weekend...got my ati silencer...
do I need to perform those 3 vmod : VGPU, VDD & VDDQ ?
VGPU is core voltage, VDD I beleive is vmem & VDDQ ?
It will be aircooled...
edit : just saw IGPU mod... :confused:
id stick with just modding vgpu and vdd thats all ive done , just to get core volts and mem volts up.
2k3 run @ 610/630 winnie @ 2.7 ( i need a 3g opteron ) on a fresh xp install
http://img23.imagevenue.com/loc91/th_54c_Untitled.jpg (http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc91&image=54c_Untitled.jpg)
pancake
10-21-2005, 04:54 AM
i was thinking that i might get one of these and replace my 6800gt, worth it? gt only does ultra speeds.
not really worth it unless you can get more then the cost of a gto2 for your 6800gt
Supertim0r
10-21-2005, 08:02 AM
id stick with just modding vgpu and vdd thats all ive done , just to get core volts and mem volts up.
2k3 run @ 610/630 winnie @ 2.7 ( i need a 3g opteron ) on a fresh xp install
http://img23.imagevenue.com/loc91/th_54c_Untitled.jpg (http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc91&image=54c_Untitled.jpg)
what is VDDQ & IGPU ? vdrop for vgpu and vdd mod ?
did you performed the pencil or hard mod ?
Dazog
10-21-2005, 09:55 AM
I did gain so far around 5°C cooler GPU/mem.....but in terms of overclocking i gained sorry to say pure :banana::banana::banana::banana:.......not even 10mhz GPU......something is holding these cards back.
The Zalman Is SUPER Quiet compared to the blow dryer sound the Stock cooler makes.
I would suggest redoing the Core with Artic Silver 5 no matter what cooler you choose to use.
Mine had even more grey gunk on the core, so much it was trapping the heat, I couldn' do the OC'ing I can do now!
gouda96
10-21-2005, 01:54 PM
I don't mean to thread crap, but I am getting a little worried about my got2 order, and obviously alot of gto2 owners are viewing this thread...
I was wondering if anyone else had ordered the gto2 from atacom. I ordered mine on the 10th and haven't recieved any shipping info yet, and the status on the site is, "active" and has nothing for the shipping info. I sent them an email a few hours ago, but haven't heard back yet.
edit->recieved a response from them, "Sir. The video card is still not available. Therefore, your order
status is
pending."
That's it? WTF!?! I was never told that it was unavailable in the first place. It doesn't say out of stock anywhere on the site, and they have raised the price twice since I bought it. It is realy rediculous that they didn't even notify me that the card was oos. Besides, my status is "active" not "pending"
ZX7891
10-21-2005, 05:51 PM
Yes, I also ordered from atacom and I called and complained to them...i didnt receive any emails or anything...i am very disappointed
Supertim0r
10-21-2005, 07:39 PM
weeeeeee
card is vmodded (VGPU, VDD & VDDQ)...haven't performed the IGPU
testing and pics tomorow !
gocchin
10-21-2005, 09:32 PM
weeeeeee
card is vmodded (VGPU, VDD & VDDQ)...haven't performed the IGPU
testing and pics tomorow !
darn you should have modded mine before you sent it to me.... ;)
einCe
10-21-2005, 10:17 PM
anyone got a spare multimeter for the poor? damn parents and their "borrowing" of money
lol eince if you had cash for card, you will find 10$ for multimeter :D
pancake
10-22-2005, 01:05 AM
what is VDDQ & IGPU ? vdrop for vgpu and vdd mod ?
did you performed the pencil or hard mod ?
i did the mod with soldering iron and vr's.
187(V)URD@
10-22-2005, 02:13 AM
when u say x800GTO@x800XT thats an Connect 3D card right?
Yes it is.
Millyons
10-22-2005, 04:05 AM
It's not the week that counts its the word before it...
CABNE>>CABYE>CABGE
>3GHz>>3ghz>>2,7GHz
lol man
webwilli
10-22-2005, 05:53 AM
some benchmarks from my GTO².
CPU = Pentium4 650 @ 4250 (default VCore, 1.3)
GTO² with defaultcooler. No VMod.
GTO² default. 12 Pipes, 400/490
http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/5543/3dmark2001default4ly.th.jpg (http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark2001default4ly.jpg)http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/796/3dmark2003default6su.th.jpg (http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark2003default6su.jpg)http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/1120/3dmark2005default2az.th.jpg (http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark2005default2az.jpg)
GTO² 16 Pipes, 400/490
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/7471/3dmark2001169bs.th.jpg (http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark2001169bs.jpg)http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/1624/3dmark2003166yq.th.jpg (http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark2003166yq.jpg)http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/3921/3dmark2005163hx.th.jpg (http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark2005163hx.jpg)
GTO² 16 Pipes, 540/590
http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/970/3dmark200116pe5ir.th.jpg (http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark200116pe5ir.jpg)http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/9007/3dmark200316pe9dr.th.jpg (http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark200316pe9dr.jpg)http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/5007/3dmark200516pe0lj.th.jpg (http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark200516pe0lj.jpg)
my personal record. cpu can do more mhz, but not tested with this videocard yet...
3DMark2001 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8759890)
3DMark2003 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4339283)
3DMark2005 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1342181)
Supertim0r
10-22-2005, 06:07 AM
what voltage are safe on air ? (VGPU, VDD & VDDQ)
I was thinking VGPU @ 1.5v, VDD @ 2.3-2.4, VDDQ ?
Supertim0r
10-22-2005, 06:08 AM
darn you should have modded mine before you sent it to me.... ;)
:cool:
wait this evening for pics...if you like...I could vmod your ;)
Simon
TinTin
10-22-2005, 07:42 AM
Just got some benches tonight, all air-cooling
A64 3200+@2755MHz
GTO2@633/630
3D05: 7538marks :woot:
http://img23.imagevenue.com/loc100/th_74c_7538_small.JPG (http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc100&image=74c_7538_small.JPG)
webwilli
10-22-2005, 09:14 AM
how you get the gpu so high?
over 550 mhz i get freezes.
any idea?
eviLRuLeZ
10-22-2005, 09:21 AM
he has one of the best gto² card in the world probably since he says everything is stock cooling.
I have never seen 633/630 at the moment stock cooling.. ;)
TinTin
10-22-2005, 10:16 AM
he has one of the best gto² card in the world probably since he says everything is stock cooling.
I have never seen 633/630 at the moment stock cooling.. ;)
This is my set-up ;)
I think I can get this excellent card is purely lucky :)
http://img111.imagevenue.com/loc145/th_7bd_IMG_2141_small.JPG (http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc145&image=7bd_IMG_2141_small.JPG)
http://img101.imagevenue.com/loc78/th_e7f_IMG_2144_small.JPG (http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc78&image=e7f_IMG_2144_small.JPG)
mongoled
10-22-2005, 10:26 AM
This is my set-up ;)
I think I can get this excellent card is purely lucky :)
Tht is a monster card
:slobber:
Supertim0r
10-22-2005, 11:51 AM
tintin : you got a real nice card :eek:
hewger
10-22-2005, 01:19 PM
Well folks i got my C3D GTO yesterday and unlocked to 16pipes and clocks 580/575 and got this score :woot: (no Artifacts)
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark05ftw0vi.jpg
7145p 3dmark05 Thats good i think. But the tricky part is that if i go over 580mhz on the core i get a black screen. My monitor switch to standby.
Annoying. Vmod is coming.
If anyone know why i get blackscreeens pleeezz tell me :P :banana:
Supertim0r
10-22-2005, 03:44 PM
am I the only one using a X850XT PE bios ? (maybe I could get better clock witu the modded 16p gto2 bios?)
with the vmod I got 615/625 for a first 3dmark2001 run...still testing
more to come later :)
eviLRuLeZ
10-22-2005, 04:10 PM
am I the only one using a X850XT PE bios ? (maybe I could get better clock witu the modded 16p gto2 bios?)
with the vmod I got 615/625 for a first 3dmark2001 run...still testing
more to come later :)
I don't think so.. You should keep the X850 XT PE bios since it has better timings that let you have a better score at 3dmark.. :)
Mine on stock cooling :
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/5708/68836hb.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=68836hb.jpg)
Vassili
10-22-2005, 04:38 PM
Well folks i got my C3D GTO yesterday and unlocked to 16pipes and clocks 580/575 and got this score :woot: (no Artifacts)
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark05ftw0vi.jpg
7145p 3dmark05 Thats good i think. But the tricky part is that if i go over 580mhz on the core i get a black screen. My monitor switch to standby.
Annoying. Vmod is coming.
If anyone know why i get blackscreeens pleeezz tell me :P :banana:
Nice score, I love this forum everyone is talking about/doing v-mods here, on my dutch forum there afraid to remove the stock cooler and to lose there warranty :slapass:
KoHaN69
10-22-2005, 10:47 PM
Guys you think its worth trading in my 6600 GT for this card ? The store by me has a Sapphire X800 GTO2 what you think ??? and they go up to XT speeds ?
No.
Gto is faster, but 6600gt is pretier (smartshder3, hdr)
and im an ati fanboy
KoHaN69
10-22-2005, 10:50 PM
is it worth getting an x800gto2 if i already have a x800xtpe?
yes if u sell it (make money = perfromacne
KoHaN69
10-22-2005, 10:59 PM
Guys I decided to take the risk and flashed my 256mb Sapphire X800GTO Fireblade Edition video card with the modded X800GTO2 bios supplied in the techpowerup site. I flashed it with the atiflash in the dos screen. After booting windows recognized the card as x800/850 series and I reinstalled the drivers. Everything worked OK till there. However after I checked the card with rivatuner and ati tool, I saw that it's still at 12 pipes and I was really disappointed to see this result. So is this a laser cut gpu? Should it be hardmodded to activate the last quad of pipes? Or should I use flashrom instead of atiflash for this bios? Do you have any opinions about this matter?
Try this at ur own risk (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100) :stick:
gocchin
10-22-2005, 11:14 PM
Here are my results from a little casual 3D today, I've been mostly benching SuperPi but I thought I'd test this new GTO2 out.
Stock unmodded card results with 12 pipes and then flashed to 16 pipes. No gpu mem timing tweaks. Results are pretty good for air but I think I'll sell this and wait for the x1800xt :)
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/gto2results.jpg
KoHaN69
10-23-2005, 02:27 AM
QUESTION TO THE MASSES:
Sapphire X800 GTO2 for $230 or Connect 3D GTO for $190?
How is the air cooling? Is it LOUD?
eviLRuLeZ
10-23-2005, 02:29 AM
nice scores gocchin
the cpu and ram speed are ?
Yes its a bit loud for sapphire x800 gto² :)
gergo
10-23-2005, 02:53 AM
@ gocchin: nice scores
could you send me the mem timings of your card? :toast:
which bios did you flash on it?
Vassili
10-23-2005, 04:03 AM
It looks like he was using this bios x800GTO2 @16p @ 400/490 (=stock speed)
Nice scores :D
^don.k's^
10-23-2005, 06:32 AM
am I the only one using a X850XT PE bios ? (maybe I could get better clock witu the modded 16p gto2 bios?)
with the vmod I got 615/625 for a first 3dmark2001 run...still testing
more to come later :)
I'm using it too, firstly i installed the gto2 modded bios, then i tried the sapphire x850xt pe bios and it worked fine, i think it can OC higher also! :eek: Maybe it was due to other reason but i could raise 5mhz core and 5mhz more to the memory.. Also i don't need the atitool installed to get higher freqs than stock... :p: ( tried to mod the gto2 bios changing his freqs but the bios editor got freeze when opening the bios file, not with older bios's )
BTW i can 3dmark @615/630 and 620/635 after changing bios.
gocchin
10-23-2005, 07:03 AM
@ gocchin: nice scores
could you send me the mem timings of your card? :toast:
which bios did you flash on it?
Yes used the gto2 stock clocks wit 16 pipes bios. Those scores are with NO memory timing tweaks.
I didn't fine the card that loud and I was benching caseless ;)
I would get the gto2 without a doubt over the gto... there's no guarantee to flash the gto to 16 pipes while the gto2 is pretty much guaranteed from what I've seen.
TrancëJay
10-23-2005, 11:19 AM
What do you think of replacing the stock coller for a Zalman VF700CU? Will I get better temps?
Anyone here was not succesfull on doing the mod?
Backbone
10-23-2005, 01:05 PM
What about Sapphire X800GTO FireBlade Edition
Mod or not ?
Supertim0r
10-23-2005, 01:17 PM
What about Sapphire X800GTO FireBlade Edition
Mod or not ?
Don't think you can mod it (R423)
Backbone
10-23-2005, 01:48 PM
Don't think you can mod it (R423)
No,the core is R480
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/826/1/page_1_introduction/index.html
einCe
10-23-2005, 01:53 PM
i dont see anywhere in that whole article that states the fireblade is 480 core you may get very lucky, but if they were 480 core the prices would have shot up just like the gto2
Backbone
10-23-2005, 02:19 PM
i dont see anywhere in that whole article that states the fireblade is 480 core you may get very lucky, but if they were 480 core the prices would have shot up just like the gto2
Both cards are clocked at 400MHz core and 490MHz memory but we did find that the extra cooling on the Fireblade Edition seemed to help. The FE was increased to 581MHz core and 611MHz memory while the LE was increased to only 516MHz on the core and 590MHz on the memory.
Only R480 can achieve 581mhz on Air.
What do you think of replacing the stock coller for a Zalman VF700CU? Will I get better temps?
Anyone here was not succesfull on doing the mod?
I have replaced the Stock-Cooler with VF700-Cu:
Stock:
IDLE - 36°C
LOAD - 69°C
VF700-Cu:
IDLE - 33°C
LOAD - 59°C
@570/540 Connect3D X800GTO @ XT, 12V @ VF700
Supertim0r
10-23-2005, 04:16 PM
my card...VGPU, VDD & VDDQ
first run 3dm2k5
http://simon.webideal.ca/Bench/best%203dm05.JPG
I don't know what's wrong but I gained 2 points from 565/600 to 620/630 :stick: maybe I need a fresh xp install :(
KoHaN69
10-23-2005, 07:51 PM
QUESTION TO THE MASSES:
Sapphire X800 GTO2 for $230 or Connect 3D GTO for $190?
How is the air cooling? Is it LOUD?
sapphire... connect3d... $50...... ???Mhz..... Connect3d?
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
5-Clicks
10-23-2005, 08:27 PM
has anybody's C3D GTO failed to flash...regardless of the core?
einCe
10-23-2005, 09:19 PM
Only R480 can achieve 581mhz on Air.
i have a 480 and the ABSOLUTE MAX i can get is 570 on the core without causeing a system hang. and still they might have gotten a 480 but they are alot less frequent in the fireblades
KoHaN69
10-23-2005, 09:54 PM
has anybody's C3D GTO failed to flash...regardless of the core?
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/vidcard/127/4
Just ordered my Connect3D from Monarch (185 shipped)
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190533
(i know admin, it belongs to deals thread, buts its relative :))
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/ImageViewer/images/190533_3.jpg
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/ImageViewer/images/190533_1.jpg
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/ImageViewer/images/190533_2.jpg
Any reason you guys went with the VR mod instead of the pencil? If the VR has definite advantages I might give that a shot, but I'll probably need a new soldering iron -- the Cold Heat thing I've got is great for quickie jobs but it may not be precise enough.
Also, how necessary is it to remove the card from the system before working on it? I'll do it if the alternative is frying my rig, but it's a major PITA to swap a waterblock on and off six times.
-aMp-
What is better, connect card thru adapter or direktly to PSU ?
pancake
10-24-2005, 06:25 AM
i prefer the vr mod because its easier to fine tune the voltages , and once its on its permanently there till you remove it , pencil mod can degrade over time iirc.
i vmoded my old 9800xt whilst it was still in the case as i had water block and tec installed and was to lazy to mess around removing and then resealing it again.
but you may have a problem doing that to the gt02 with it still in the system as vdd mod the legs on the chip you need to solder are facing towards the motherboard so its hard to get to , and the vgpu is 2 tiny solder pads which are hard to get to whilst in the case.
pancake
10-24-2005, 06:26 AM
What is better, connect card thru adapter or direktly to PSU ?
which ever looks tidiest , i doubt you will notice any performance diffrence using a connector or direct psu connection
KoHaN69
10-24-2005, 12:20 PM
Any reason you guys went with the VR mod instead of the pencil? If the VR has definite advantages I might give that a shot, but I'll probably need a new soldering iron -- the Cold Heat thing I've got is great for quickie jobs but it may not be precise enough.
Also, how necessary is it to remove the card from the system before working on it? I'll do it if the alternative is frying my rig, but it's a major PITA to swap a waterblock on and off six times.
-aMp-
If u want to keep ur warantee, pencil mod.
*sapphire: hmm, rma-ed this card for artifacts, looks all nice, unchanged, lets ship him a new -hey! whats this solder hanging here?!*
;)
Pencil mod, then electric tape it, so it wont degrade.
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Supertim0r
10-24-2005, 12:24 PM
;)
Pencil mod, then electric tape it, so it wont degrade.
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:[/QUOTE]
you can tune your card while testing/benching with soldered VR :P
Supertim0r
10-24-2005, 12:51 PM
Hey ! I need help
Why is my nature test so bad :( :confused: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8764956
I have better results with my p4/6800gt :stick:
principino1984
10-24-2005, 02:37 PM
Hey you guys, guess who's back?
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/7623/73736me.th.jpg (http://img424.imageshack.us/my.php?image=73736me.jpg)
Still Stock cooling...
Supertim0r
10-24-2005, 02:41 PM
Hey you guys, guess who's back?
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/7623/73736me.th.jpg (http://img424.imageshack.us/my.php?image=73736me.jpg)
Still Stock cooling...
really nice card :slobber:
Errr, I figured I'd try my hand with the VR mod, but the only place I can think of that would stock VRs is Radio Shack, and they don't carry them. Who else might?
-aMp-
TinTin
10-24-2005, 06:05 PM
Hey you guys, guess who's back?
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/7623/73736me.th.jpg (http://img424.imageshack.us/my.php?image=73736me.jpg)
Still Stock cooling...
wow.... :slobber:
even stronger than mine, mine does 633/630 all stock (but with AS5 inside) ;)
What is the ambient temp? just a comparsion! :D
gocchin
10-24-2005, 06:52 PM
Any one have issues with the stock heatsink fan on the GTO2? Mine doesn't spin and when it does it spins.... SLOW........
KoHaN69
10-24-2005, 06:54 PM
Hey you guys, guess who's back?
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/7623/73736me.th.jpg (http://img424.imageshack.us/my.php?image=73736me.jpg)
Still Stock cooling...
Connect3D or sapphire gto2?
Hey ! I need help
Why is my nature test so bad :( :confused: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8764956
I have better results with my p4/6800gt :stick:
Connect3D or sapphire gto2?
Nature's bad because it doenst use shaders.
16 pipes unlockeD?
crodan85
10-24-2005, 07:19 PM
Sorry to Hijack the thread but is there anyone here who has got a DMM with connectivity beeper handy as I got overexcited with my soldering iron and used too much solder :slap: . I have managed to get most off with solder wick but I want to check its ok before I switch her back on. I need to know if the connectivity beeper sounds when the bottom resistor pad and the test point are connected in the pic bellow
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/2901/helpwithpad8cy.jpg
any help would be very much appreciated
Edit Well I decideded to try it anyway death or glory and it was fine :woot: just finished the vrmod and Im currently artifact testing at 579/621 @1.46v 30oC Idle 50oC load. Man I love these cards :banana:
Supertim0r
10-24-2005, 08:55 PM
Any one have issues with the stock heatsink fan on the GTO2? Mine doesn't spin and when it does it spins.... SLOW........
adjust the fan speed with atitool
stock settings is like 5% fan speed
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39051&stc=1
Supertim0r
10-24-2005, 08:59 PM
Connect3D or sapphire gto2?
Nature's bad because it doenst use shaders.
16 pipes unlockeD?
it a GTO² @ X850XT PE bios @ 615/621 16pipes
fresh xp install btw
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39052&stc=1
principino1984
10-24-2005, 10:41 PM
wow.... :slobber:
even stronger than mine, mine does 633/630 all stock (but with AS5 inside) ;)
What is the ambient temp? just a comparsion! :D
temp around twentt degrees... the vge is inside the case with just a 8x8 blowing from upside cause i'm full liquid cooled and i need somethin to get the hot air out of the case
HardcoreNL
10-25-2005, 02:14 AM
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5594/70000wx.jpg
Stock cooling, no vmods or whatevaaaahhh :nono:
618/651
More CPU speed would get me around 7400 i think
LexDiamonds
10-25-2005, 02:51 AM
651 on the mem... holy cow. What are you using to control the timings? What are said timings if you dont mind sharing?
I don't get , people here getting 600/600 easily...my max is like 565/600.....and sometimes atitool shuts down my pc.....wtf?!
HardcoreNL
10-25-2005, 09:02 AM
I use the standard timings, all standard. I have a Sapphire with 1,6NS memory.
Just run ATI Tray tool and see what the timings are
I don't get , people here getting 600/600 easily...my max is like 565/600.....and sometimes atitool shuts down my pc.....wtf?!
Luck of the draw. These are unbinned R480 chips, so maybe yours would've been binned for an XT instead of an XTPE. Still, 565/600 for a $200 card is a sweet deal.
BTW, when ATITool shuts down your system, what happens exactly? Testing for max core, at 600 exactly my screen goes black and the system becomes unresponsive. Weird thing is, if I set the core to 615 or slightly higher manually, my rig will complete 3DM05 without issue.
-aMp-
Vassili
10-25-2005, 09:27 AM
I don't get , people here getting 600/600 easily...my max is like 565/600.....and sometimes atitool shuts down my pc.....wtf?!
Luck indeed, have you already tried to Vmod it?, could gain you some MHz :)
187(V)URD@
10-25-2005, 09:48 AM
Can everyone include a post with wich drivers they benched (eg: 5.10 ccc or cp)
And post a link or attach the bios they used.
Edit:
Some questions about Ati benching:
-Do you guys set all aplication controlled or is there a way to set everything disbabled? I know some ati drivers could.
-CCC or CP?
-what about catalyst future ai with benching and gaming?
Btw; i think i flashed wrong bios, mine says x850pro :o
thx
SnipingWaste
10-25-2005, 10:06 AM
There is a Sapphire X800GTO AGP out there now. Does any body know what core its using R423 or R480 and if its modable to 16 pipes.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102608
Luck of the draw. These are unbinned R480 chips, so maybe yours would've been binned for an XT instead of an XTPE. Still, 565/600 for a $200 card is a sweet deal.
BTW, when ATITool shuts down your system, what happens exactly? Testing for max core, at 600 exactly my screen goes black and the system becomes unresponsive. Weird thing is, if I set the core to 615 or slightly higher manually, my rig will complete 3DM05 without issue.
-aMp-
exactly this happens.....screen goes black.
Supertim0r
10-25-2005, 10:20 AM
exactly this happens.....screen goes black.
same problem here :stick:
Ebola
10-25-2005, 01:07 PM
Unfortunately my GTO² like most of available in France sux at stock cooling, most of it ran at ~520MHz for the core, RAM perform well as usual
http://ebola.club.fr/gto2-best.jpg
Looks like the lite retail boards got average R480 :(
hewger
10-25-2005, 01:24 PM
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5594/70000wx.jpg
Stock cooling, no vmods or whatevaaaahhh :nono:
618/651
More CPU speed would get me around 7400 i think
EHm. lol i get 7145 with 580/576. Connect3D GTO 16pipes. No modds.
principino1984
10-25-2005, 01:44 PM
same problem here :stick:
mine does the same... it there any chance to get some artifacts instead of having the screen shut down?
"The VCore regulator chip has a built-in overcurrent protection feature which shuts the card down, if a certain amount of current draw is exceeded"
principino1984
10-25-2005, 01:56 PM
"The VCore regulator chip has a built-in overcurrent protection feature which shuts the card down, if a certain amount of current draw is exceeded"
what's the point... we just have to bypass this feature :stick: :banana:
Supertim0r
10-25-2005, 02:25 PM
what's the point... we just have to bypass this feature :stick: :banana:
hehe...give me that ovp bypass mod :D
Ebola
10-25-2005, 02:42 PM
hehe...give me that ovp bypass mod :D
It's the same that the well known X850
Supertim0r
10-25-2005, 02:50 PM
It's the same that the well known X850
link ?
Same one we've been looking at. (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/voltmods/112/3) The IGPU mod deals with overvoltage protection.
-aMp-
Supertim0r
10-25-2005, 03:40 PM
damn...I should have done this vmod :slapass:
LexDiamonds
10-25-2005, 04:16 PM
I am getting some strange results with my Vmodded gto2...
Before the mod, I had 600/600 %100 stable based on looping 3dmark, playing FEAR for 6 hours, etc. This is on watercooling. Load temps were 40ish.
Did the Vgpu mod with a VR and set it at 1.60 to start. 650 on the core was a cakewalk. Things seem stable in most apps, but it crashes 3dmark03 randomly in the proxycon test. Just locks up... I dont think OVP is kicking in, but cant figure out what the problem is. Increasing voltage does not help. Temps are under 50 at load, up to 1.75vgpu.
At first, after the mod, the power regulation circuits got real hot, real fast. After putting a fan on it, they never get hotter than the core.
Now I know 3dmark03 is a bit more picky than other apps for max OC, but I am stumped here. Any ideas? I would be satisfied with 650/600 24/7 clocks (core probably has more if I wanted to run >1.65vgpu day to day), but I cant get 3dmark03 stable....
KoHaN69
10-25-2005, 04:41 PM
I am getting some strange results with my Vmodded gto2...
Before the mod, I had 600/600 %100 stable based on looping 3dmark, playing FEAR for 6 hours, etc. This is on watercooling. Load temps were 40ish.
Did the Vgpu mod with a VR and set it at 1.60 to start. 650 on the core was a cakewalk. Things seem stable in most apps, but it crashes 3dmark03 randomly in the proxycon test. Just locks up... I dont think OVP is kicking in, but cant figure out what the problem is. Increasing voltage does not help. Temps are under 50 at load, up to 1.75vgpu.
At first, after the mod, the power regulation circuits got real hot, real fast. After putting a fan on it, they never get hotter than the core.
Now I know 3dmark03 is a bit more picky than other apps for max OC, but I am stumped here. Any ideas? I would be satisfied with 650/600 24/7 clocks (core probably has more if I wanted to run >1.65vgpu day to day), but I cant get 3dmark03 stable....
change the clock down a bit, or up a bit, try 1:1. what did u get ur mem to?
Supertim0r
10-25-2005, 04:41 PM
I am getting some strange results with my Vmodded gto2...
Before the mod, I had 600/600 %100 stable based on looping 3dmark, playing FEAR for 6 hours, etc. This is on watercooling. Load temps were 40ish.
Did the Vgpu mod with a VR and set it at 1.60 to start. 650 on the core was a cakewalk. Things seem stable in most apps, but it crashes 3dmark03 randomly in the proxycon test. Just locks up... I dont think OVP is kicking in, but cant figure out what the problem is. Increasing voltage does not help. Temps are under 50 at load, up to 1.75vgpu.
At first, after the mod, the power regulation circuits got real hot, real fast. After putting a fan on it, they never get hotter than the core.
Now I know 3dmark03 is a bit more picky than other apps for max OC, but I am stumped here. Any ideas? I would be satisfied with 650/600 24/7 clocks (core probably has more if I wanted to run >1.65vgpu day to day), but I cant get 3dmark03 stable....
I have the same problem too... I had to lower my voltage and clock...i'm buying ViperJohn aircooler and i'll probably perform the IGPU (OVP bypass according to aMp)
I'll confirm for the ovp mod tonight...
Nice clock LexDiamonds :) I want to see +600 memory clock :p: (vdd & vddq are easier than vgpu)
LexDiamonds
10-25-2005, 04:46 PM
Well, 600 on the mem is really about my max. For me, its not worth tweaking mem settings in ati tool for a few more mhz. I was happy with 600. ATI tool would actually cry foul on the memory around 612, but I set it to 600 for day to day stability.
I have always read that vmodding the mem isnt worth it. It can blow up easyily and gains just arent going to be that huge.
I am redownloading 3dmark03- I think I had an old build from when it was first released. I am hoping that will fix my problem. ATI Tool happily ran for an hour @ 650/600 so I am fairly confidant that my OC is not the problem.
Also- regarding the overvolt protection, there seems to be a lot of variance as to when this actually kicks in. Seems to be between 1.75 and 1.9 for most people. At 1.6ish I am nowhere near there.. so again I am thinking that is not the problem. Not to mention that 05 runs just fine (cant loop it to test however).
At 1.75Vgpu, the power regulators get HOT. Word of warning to anyone juicing there card to these levels- be sure you have good cooling on the front top and bottom half of the card (towards the DVI/VGA connectors).
NickS
10-25-2005, 04:47 PM
The shutdown thing happened to me. I was running ATi Tool and my comp shut down. I got wicked scared lol.
My ram still dont OC for :banana::banana::banana::banana:, even w/RAM sinks, or different timings.
LexDiamonds
10-25-2005, 04:53 PM
Nicks, you sig is out of control.....
beta67
10-25-2005, 06:20 PM
Hey guys I ordered from ATACOM and I am gonna have to cancle. I am looking for a good price on this card :( . Can anybody help a man who seems to have bad luck
NickS
10-25-2005, 06:24 PM
Nicks, you sig is out of control.....
In a good way or bad way. :)
LexDiamonds
10-25-2005, 06:35 PM
Hey guys I ordered from ATACOM and I am gonna have to cancle. I am looking for a good price on this card :( . Can anybody help a man who seems to have bad luck
Hi beta-
I originally had 3 gto2s on order, one from atacom. I had ordered about 2 weeks ago. Yesterday I got the email of doom that said they werent expecting anymore to come in, so I canceled too. I talked to the lady a bit and she was up on the situation saying that x850 sales were getting canabalised and that lots of people had urged sapphire to end production of the gto2.
There are NO cheap deals on the GTO2 anymore. Newegg has them and you would have it in 3 days with no fuss, but they want $275 shipped. Seeing as you can get a 7800GT for $60-70 more, its not that great a deal. Hell, I paid $225 shipped and I am thinking the 7800GT may have been a better choice.
Anyhow- good luck to you in finding one. There very well could be a second supply of these coming down the pipes, but I somehow doubt it.
LexDiamonds
10-25-2005, 07:15 PM
Well, I seem to have sorted out my issues...
I was hellbent at keeping my mem at 600 because its such a nice number, but I had to drop it down to 590 to keep scaling the core. I should have known this from my 9800pro days, but I was stobborn. :slapass:
On the plus side, I think my core has a good chance of scaling to 680-700 mhz, so the net trade off is a good one.
KoHaN69
10-25-2005, 09:21 PM
Hey guys I ordered from ATACOM and I am gonna have to cancle. I am looking for a good price on this card :( . Can anybody help a man who seems to have bad luck
https://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190533
Connect3D for 185 shiped
KoHaN69
10-25-2005, 09:23 PM
Well, I seem to have sorted out my issues...
I was hellbent at keeping my mem at 600 because its such a nice number, but I had to drop it down to 590 to keep scaling the core. I should have known this from my 9800pro days, but I was stobborn. :slapass: .
Told ya ;)
https://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190533
Connect3D for $185 shipped
xooler
10-26-2005, 12:48 AM
Guys,
Please post pictures of yours modded cards.
I need to look back of the card. (High res.please :) )
I can get card like on photo.
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/43263.jpg
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/43264.jpg
what you think about this gto?
LexDiamonds
10-26-2005, 12:53 AM
7919 3Dmark05 w/Vgpu mod:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1363767
-no mem tweaks... I cant get mem tweaks in atitool beta8.. :confused:
KoHaN69
10-26-2005, 12:54 AM
^^^^^looks 480 to me
check out if its lasercut or not.
what does it OC to?
is the ram 2.0 or 1.6ns?
KoHaN69
10-26-2005, 12:55 AM
7919 3Dmark05 w/Vgpu mod:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1363767
:D
holy sh:banana:t :toast:
JDizzle
10-26-2005, 01:01 AM
That cooler looks really weak, how's it working out for you?
LexDiamonds
10-26-2005, 01:24 AM
@xooler:
Just at first glance, the lack of an external power connector will severely limit your OC regardless of R480 core....
Ebola
10-26-2005, 05:04 AM
7919 3Dmark05 w/Vgpu mod:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1363767
-no mem tweaks... I cant get mem tweaks in atitool beta8.. :confused:
:slobber:
That score is really insane and i feel a bit of shame, my GPU and Ram or over your and you blow my score.
Either your RAM timings+freq are awesome, either the 144 @ 3.1 kicks a Venice Ã:banana: 3.0
:clap:
187(V)URD@
10-26-2005, 07:03 AM
can you put the x800gto² in the second pci-e slot because my temp of the NB went from 43°C idle up too 48°IDLE !!!
My core only does: 578mhz and the memory + tweaks only 560 :s
EDIT: After doing as5 on the graca my temp dropped about 10°C in idle, still need to check load and overclock.
7002pts with ONLY 534mhz core , After mod it will rocks :D
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/144/7002.PNG
Supertim0r
10-26-2005, 08:42 AM
congrats Lex...8k soon with memory tweaks :)
K.I.T.T.
10-26-2005, 08:56 AM
Which BIOS is better? the modded GTO2 one or an X850XT one?
Also, those who have modded their cards using VRs....can you post some pics of the mods on YOUR card? the techpowerup one doesnt make too much sense to me. :stick:
gracias :toast:
Supertim0r
10-26-2005, 09:34 AM
Which BIOS is better? the modded GTO2 one or an X850XT one?
Also, those who have modded their cards using VRs....can you post some pics of the mods on YOUR card? the techpowerup one doesnt make too much sense to me. :stick:
gracias :toast:
Sapphire X850XT PE bios with ViVo I disabled work best for me
download --> here (http://simon.webideal.ca/X800GTO2/sx850pe.bin)
with VRs
http://simon.webideal.ca/X800GTO2/1.JPG
K.I.T.T.
10-26-2005, 09:38 AM
did that BIOS actually improve your scores? and you voltmodded on stock cooling? what volts/clocks? :)
Supertim0r
10-26-2005, 09:50 AM
did that BIOS actually improve your scores? and you voltmodded on stock cooling? what volts/clocks? :)
I don't know if I get better scores but this bios clock higher ;) (cetainly better timings). It's 100% stable @ 600/615 (VGPU @ 1.46v loaded, VDD @ 2.2v, VDDQ @ 2.16v). Bench @ 620/630. Stock cooling with AS5 core/céramique memory...max temp = 62 after a few hours loop nature.
I'm buying ViperJohns extreme aircooling and should crank the volt @ 1.63-1.64v loaded :D
edit : ATItool artifacts free (haven't took a SS but...overnight @ 600/615)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39133&stc=1
K.I.T.T.
10-26-2005, 10:10 AM
u used a 20k VR? What resistance did you set it to? I thought insted of using a VR, ill try and use a 2B pencil :p but it didnt work :stick: - i just took it out of my rig to try lol.
The initial resistance between the solder pads is 436 ohms according to my multimeter....what resistance do you get (between the pads AND between the legs of the VR) at your current settings?
PS.. whats the difference between VDD and VDDQ? :am:
Thanks for all the help :)
viperjohn extreme aircolling? any links , prices ? :)
viperjohn extreme aircolling? any links , prices ? :)
Viper John. (http://imageevent.com/marginjohn/viperjohn)
K.I.T.T.
10-26-2005, 11:58 AM
Viper John. (http://imageevent.com/marginjohn/viperjohn)
WOW thats just xtreme!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :woot:
Well i got a GTO2 for $260 CAD - Flash Successful! :banana:
These results are on a "work"station 3ghz 775
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/musk/2001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/musk/2005.jpg
Do these scores look about right? I haven't done any 3dmark on intel for a while.
The black is to remove incriminating evidence
KoHaN69
10-26-2005, 12:25 PM
cooling ram wont help much at all.
i fur core is under 60, thats pretty much all u need, for most cases
anyone try x850bios on a connect3d?
Supertim0r
10-26-2005, 12:33 PM
I bought 3 GTO2 last week @ 224$ CDN. I wanted to order 5 cards today but there was 212 B.O. before. They only get like 20-30 cards/batch...so it's like impossible now to buy them :(
TrancëJay
10-26-2005, 01:58 PM
Can I edit the x850XT PE BIOS? I want to flash 600/600. What BIOS editor do you recommend?
Is there a VIVO version of the Sapphire card? At NewEgg it says there is no VIVO but at ExcaliberPC and ZipZoomFly it says there is
KoHaN69
10-26-2005, 02:04 PM
Can I edit the x850XT PE BIOS? I want to flash 600/600. What BIOS editor do you recommend?
Is there a VIVO version of the Sapphire card? At NewEgg it says there is no VIVO but at ExcaliberPC and ZipZoomFly it says there is
change bios with rabbit
connect3d gto is vivo
TrancëJay
10-26-2005, 05:25 PM
Should I change MC timings?
eviLRuLeZ
10-26-2005, 05:59 PM
mine all stock.
3dmark 2005 : 7024 pts
http://evilrulez1.free.fr/x800gto2/7024-3d05.JPG
3dmark 2005 : 7022 pts
http://evilrulez1.free.fr/x800gto2/7022-3d05.JPG
Hi everyone, my first post here. Here is the Sapphire X800GTO plain I just bought...
http://img439.imageshack.us/my.php?image=card5el.jpg
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ocm23ke.jpg
I took a picture of the core but it is blurry so here's what it says:
R480
215RBPAGA11F
GF8565.1
0502AA
TAIWAN PCI>EXPRESS
I currently have it at 625/620 (with a 700Cu), though I'm not sure if all 16 pipes can be unlocked.
Supertim0r
10-26-2005, 07:01 PM
Hi everyone, my first post here. Here is the Sapphire X800GTO plain I just bought...
http://img439.imageshack.us/my.php?image=card5el.jpg
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ocm23ke.jpg
I took a picture of the core but it is blurry so here's what it says:
R480
215RBPAGA11F
GF8565.1
0502AA
TAIWAN PCI>EXPRESS
I currently have it at 625/620 (with a 700Cu), though I'm not sure if all 16 pipes can be unlocked.
TRY 16p bios :stick:
:D
Are they compatible? If it doesn't work, can I flash to the stock GTO2 bios, or will I have to find the one made for this card?
LexDiamonds
10-26-2005, 09:06 PM
Try the GTO2 16p bios on techpowerup. Then use ATItool to see if the extra pipes opened up.
Supertim0r
10-26-2005, 09:11 PM
If you card work great @ 16p @ your actual clock...killer card :)
KoHaN69
10-26-2005, 10:14 PM
Alright, I got my
CONNECT3D X800 GTO 256MB
I get 6522 3dmarks in 3dmark05 on 16 pipes, 564/564 clocks, stock cooling, no voltmod
On catalyst 5.10
Using the techpowerup connect3d gto 16 pipe bios
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/vidcard/127/2
will post details and pics later, g2g finish FEAR on max settings :)
pancake
10-27-2005, 01:50 AM
what version of rabit are you using to edit the bios? every time i open a bios rabit crashes and closes!
Cossey
10-27-2005, 02:19 AM
is it better to flash the card with the modded gto2 bios or a proper xtpe bios (if so which one?) is it just the memory timings that are different?
Jupiler
10-27-2005, 02:27 AM
what version of rabit are you using to edit the bios? every time i open a bios rabit crashes and closes!
I'm using v. 1.7. No problems with it.
pancake
10-27-2005, 02:39 AM
yea 1.7 works fine for me , saw in the read me it says it added support for x850 series so 1.5 wont work with it
187(V)URD@
10-27-2005, 04:30 AM
My x800gto² clocks crap :(
578 Max on core and about 540-550 on the memory.
Anyway here is my quick test http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1365206
Supertim0r
10-27-2005, 09:27 AM
My x800gto² clocks crap :(
578 Max on core and about 540-550 on the memory.
Anyway here is my quick test http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1365206
you've got a reason to vmod your card :banana:
:D
KoHaN69
10-27-2005, 09:50 AM
is it better to flash the card with the modded gto2 bios or a proper xtpe bios (if so which one?) is it just the memory timings that are different?
what core? what ram?
r423 or 480?
2.ons or 1.5?
my max MEM is now 615....
565/615....bah :(
187(V)URD@
10-27-2005, 02:02 PM
you've got a reason to vmod your card :banana:
:D
More a reason to sell and buy a new one. But hey i get 7K with those clocks :)
Supertim0r
10-27-2005, 02:12 PM
More a reason to sell and buy a new one. But hey i get 7K with those clocks :)
you could get a worst card :slap:
good luck finding a new one...
Cossey
10-27-2005, 02:33 PM
what core? what ram?
r423 or 480?
2.ons or 1.5?
480 1.6
the card is currently running at xtpe speeds (540/590) more through lazyness in pushing it much further :p:
btw anyone know which is the right vmod for the gto2?
Ebola
10-27-2005, 03:52 PM
Bad scoring solved, figured out a problem with PCI-E x8 saturated, now up on the x16
8000 points broken
http://ebola.club.fr/gto2-3dm05-ocm.jpg
Supertim0r
10-27-2005, 04:04 PM
Bad scoring solved, figured out a problem with PCI-E x8 saturated, now up on the x16
8000 points broken
http://ebola.club.fr/gto2-3dm05-ocm.jpg
super score pour une carte qui vaut la moitié d'une X850XT :clap:
ca ressemble Ã:banana: quoi tes voltages ? VGPU, VDD, VDDQ (IGPU ?)
NickS
10-27-2005, 04:10 PM
my max MEM is now 615....
565/615....bah :(
Be happy!! 545/540 is basically all I can get here. I have ramsinks, applied Arctic Silver Ceramique, everything!
I even have a 92MM fan on the back of the card (on it) blowing on the ramsinks.
Supertim0r
10-27-2005, 05:12 PM
Be happy!! 545/540 is basically all I can get here. I have ramsinks, applied Arctic Silver Ceramique, everything!
I even have a 92MM fan on the back of the card (on it) blowing on the ramsinks.
It's not a GTO2
DamienKC
10-27-2005, 05:50 PM
Bad scoring solved, figured out a problem with PCI-E x8 saturated, now up on the x16
Explanation?
cantankerous
10-27-2005, 06:08 PM
probably changed PCIE slot from the bottom to the top to get 16X bandwidth on the bus instead of 8x.
187(V)URD@
10-27-2005, 07:22 PM
you could get a worst card :slap:
good luck finding a new one...
Then I hold the best and sell the other. But 7K is pretty good for a 200€ card.
super score pour une carte qui vaut la moitié d'une X850XT :clap:
ca ressemble Ã:banana: quoi tes voltages ? VGPU, VDD, VDDQ (IGPU ?)
C est quand même un forum ou l on parle Anglais :slapass:
GG Ebola for the 8000pts :D
KoHaN69
10-28-2005, 12:31 AM
Then I hold the best and sell the other. But 7K is pretty good for a 200€ card.
and 6522 is good for a 100€ card :banana:
Ebola
10-28-2005, 03:05 AM
probably changed PCIE slot from the bottom to the top to get 16X bandwidth on the bus instead of 8x.
Right, i was using the bottom x16 slot for convenience. DFI was configured x8 x8 like in SLI mode, i went back to x16 x2
So x8 is defnitely not enough passed 7000 3Dmark05 points, my X800 XL that reached 6660 doesn't got this problem
pancake
10-28-2005, 03:21 AM
what amount of vcore you think is safe with zalman heatsink
Ebola
10-28-2005, 03:37 AM
what amount of vcore you think is safe with zalman heatsink
According to techpowerup 1.45V max on aircooling, may be 1.55V with a Zalman
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/voltmods/112
pancake
10-28-2005, 04:34 AM
According to techpowerup 1.45V max on aircooling, may be 1.55V with a Zalman
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/voltmods/112
ill see how far the temps go up with 1.5 i think and see if i get much more out the core.
just flashed it with a sapphire x850xtpe bios which lost me overclock on both core and mem 605/609 and the temps seemed to go up to. strange
187(V)URD@
10-28-2005, 06:05 AM
and 6522 is good for a 100€ card :banana:
C3D X800GTO? IF yes I had one but it costs 179€ and i don't think you can get them for 100€ unless its second handed.
According to techpowerup 1.45V max on aircooling, may be 1.55V with a Zalman
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/voltmods/112
you adjust vcore true bios?
pancake
10-28-2005, 06:09 AM
no v mod
187(V)URD@
10-28-2005, 06:12 AM
no v mod
Yeah but wasn't it possible to do it true bios? I thought it was done by 6800LE cards if I remember.
Don't wanna vmod right now since i am planning to sell it.
XeNTaR
10-28-2005, 10:15 AM
My first post here, but it ain't a pretty one.
Got a Sapphire x800gto² Lite.
Flashed it first with the bios on techpowerup.com.
Rebooted & opened atitool =>
http://users.multimedi.be/pieterreynders/12pipes.gif
That's right, no 16 pipes!!!!
Even flashed it with other x850xt (pe)'s biossen and still says 12 pipes.
Other tools like Everest also find and "x850pro" :(
So i guess it ain't a 100% guaranteed unlocking... :(
Weird. According to the codes under CONFIG_DIE_FUSES and CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES you should be able to mod it. What'd you use to flash?
Are the mods the same as the X850 series? It looks like it from earlier posts.
Just want to confirm.
XeNTaR
10-28-2005, 10:35 AM
Weird. According to the codes under CONFIG_DIE_FUSES and CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES you should be able to mod it. What'd you use to flash?
Yeah idd, that's why i included in the screenshot.
I flashed with atiflash: atiflash -f -p 0 newbios.bin (had to force it, coz first it gave me some mismatched error with the bios on techpowerup)
I now flashed it back with the oldbios and in desktop properties it says: gto (so not gto²).
Is this normal? Can anyone confirm this?
Or maybe they screwed up and got me a gto, allthough the box etc clearly states gto².
That way i can just get it replaces by a new one and try again :)
Supertim0r
10-28-2005, 10:56 AM
Yeah idd, that's why i included in the screenshot.
I flashed with atiflash: atiflash -f -p 0 newbios.bin (had to force it, coz first it gave me some mismatched error with the bios on techpowerup)
I now flashed it back with the oldbios and in desktop properties it says: gto (so not gto²).
Is this normal? Can anyone confirm this?
Or maybe they screwed up and got me a gto, allthough the box etc clearly states gto².
That way i can just get it replaces by a new one and try again :)
you need flashrom16p
a:/flashrom -f -p 0 newbios.bin
XeNTaR
10-28-2005, 11:41 AM
you need flashrom16p
a:/flashrom -f -p 0 newbios.bin
oh man i love you :toast:
Didn't realise it would matter flashing with atiflash or flashrom.
But i guess it does :)
Now lets see what this baby can do :banana:
KoHaN69
10-28-2005, 02:49 PM
C3D X800GTO? IF yes I had one but it costs 179€ and i don't think you can get them for 100€ unless its second handed.
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190533
$179 = 100€
pancake
10-29-2005, 12:59 AM
Are the mods the same as the X850 series? It looks like it from earlier posts.
Just want to confirm.
yes they are
KingYubbo
10-29-2005, 01:47 AM
Damn! I need one of these ASAP! I need a new video card, but Australia doesn't have them yet... Ahhhhh!!! Where are you C3D GTO's or Sapphire GTO2's!
|SiLA|
10-29-2005, 03:20 AM
which is the best bios to use for the GTO²? :confused:
can't do more than 560/610 for 3dmarks daily 540/590 xt pe clocks :D
187(V)URD@
10-29-2005, 05:53 AM
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190533
$179 = 100€
Yeah but do they send to Europe?
:slapass: yeah, send to europe?
TrancëJay
10-29-2005, 09:00 AM
Should I change MC timings in Rabit??
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif
$179 = 100€
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1€ around 1.2$
KoHaN69
10-29-2005, 08:56 PM
$179 = 100€
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1€ around 1.2$
ah, i got it confused with pounds. bleah, europe :rolleyes:
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