CrossFire in hands

[Sampsa]

Hi guys,

I have a CrossFire system here with two Radeon X850 XTs and Halibut motherboard.

http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/emolevyt/ati_crossfire/testikokoonpano.jpg

http://www.soneraplaza.fi/GetImages/GetImages_GetImage_gif/0,2597,64667,00.gif

Full size screenshot (http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/video/crossfire/crossfire_radeon850xt.gif)

With FX-57 and High Quality settings the system scores around 10880. Everything running at default clocks.

I'll do some overclocking tomorrow with Vapochill LS cooled FX-57. Unfortunately I don't have time to play with an extreme cooling on graphics cards because of an upcoming product launch. Anyway, I'll post some overclocked numbers tomorrow if I can find a tool to overclock graphics cards in CrossFire mode..

:cool:

[Vapor]

Doubly extreme....you have CrossFire and you don't have time to play with it because of X1800XT :D

How's Halibut treatin' ya?

[AfterClock]

because of an upcoming product launch
Heh...we know what :D

ATi Tray Tools would be fine for OCing the cards.

[Doumz]

Waw not too bad for default clock

can't wait to see what it have under the hood ;p

[Tanktanium]

Do a run in high performance mode :D

[b0bd0le]

hmm does this mean you guys are working on overclocking the XTs? ;)

[metro.cl]

sampsa do you have any problems with the bios not reading correctly the vcore, we have one here (think is the same as you) but the bios seems buggy, do you have a new one?? or better one?

[eva2000]

nice setup.. now torture the cards :D

[5-Clicks]

i echo what everybody else here is saying ;)

[jrw]

Try gaming in 1600x1200 @ 100Hz ^^

[Tanktanium]

You can't even do that with a non crossfire setup...I can't think of any monitor ever made that could do 1600x1200@100hz. The only rez i know for sure that can do that is 1024x768..

[zightx]

:slobber: :woot:

[Supertim0r]

when could we see dual X1800XT and highly overclocked FX-57 ? :D

[C3]

Unfortunately I don't have time to play with an extreme cooling on graphics cards because of an upcoming product launch.

Have phun @Ibiza ;)

Btw. nice system, but imo X-Fire with the X1800 is the real thing :)

[AfterClock]

Btw. nice system, but imo X-Fire with the X1800 is the real thing
Double that :)

[althes]

Let the fun begin

[metro.cl]

when could we see dual X1800XT and highly overclocked FX-57 ? :D


7 days 20hours and counting...

[LivingL@rGe81]

I can't think of any monitor ever made that could do 1600x1200@100hz. The only rez i know for sure that can do that is 1024x768..

You wanna get a decent monitor like mine, Eizo F930 21" CRT, I use it 1600 x 1200 104Hz, the best monitor I have ever had....


Come on Sampsa stop teasing us!!!

[cupra]

wow, that is the first cf that see in the "real" world

that board looks so cool, the rad and black work super together, can you give more details ?

:toast:

[Vapor]

Stil isn't quite real world...this is a review sample.

[Sampsa]

sampsa do you have any problems with the bios not reading correctly the vcore, we have one here (think is the same as you) but the bios seems buggy, do you have a new one?? or better one?

I'll check that, I haven't done any overclocking with the system yet. Just the basic benchmarks. Tomorrow I'll be doing some overclocking.

Doom3 runs fine @ 1600x1200 (4x AA / 16 x ANI) but Battlefield 2 is requires resoltion dropped to 1024x768 (4x / 16x ANI). High performance quality settings gives 11200 in 3DMark05 at default clocks.

Unfortunately the bottom line is that CrossFire is ~6 months too late and it has some problems like 60 hz limit. Also performance / price can't compete with single GeForce 7800 GTX.

R520 XT CrossFire is what I'm really waiting for :)

[Sampsa]

The motherboard has amazing voltage adjustments, propably just like Grouper. Vmem up to 4,0 etc. I hope we'll see this reference design from DFI! (BT?)

PS. Southbridge SB450 has some serious problems with Seagate Barracuda SATA V which has a native SATA support. For some reason southbridge forces it to PIO-mode and doesn't work in UltraDMA-6 mode. I'm using Silicon Images SATA controller instead.

[k|ngp|n]

Nice to see these out in the flesh, and in a great overclockers hands Sampsa... :toast: Cant wait to see what these can do. They look sweet. I am sure macci will be coming hard soon :).

[LardArse]

Wow everyone seems to be gettin their X-fires already.... :slobber:
Waiting to see the R520s in X-fire Sampsa... pls share all that you see/touch... :)

[AfterClock]

hm...the "surely" working OC way is flashing the cards ( BIOS :D )

[IRQ Conflict]

7 days 20hours and counting...

I'd keep counting

Well you get Crossfire support by default just by having a GPU from R300 onwards, PCI Express interconnect and a DVI port. Those are the only requirements for a slave board to say "Crossfire support" on the box.

Master boards are the different kettle of fish and caboosemoose is right, there'll be no R5-series Crossfire at launch. -Rys

linky (http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showpost.php?p=578606&postcount=52)

[Tanktanium]

I'd still like to have fun with X850XT crossfire for the time being. Availablility of R520 crossfire boards is going to be extremely limited, and I won't be able to afford them for a while anyway...

[G H Z]

Thanks for the preview Sampsa, you lucky guy :D

[Vincentvega18]

yeah, looking good........so r520 is gonna be limited to 60hz in crossfire???

[jrw]

yeah, looking good........so r520 is gonna be limited to 60hz in crossfire???

HEHE.

[metro.cl]

yeah, looking good........so r520 is gonna be limited to 60hz in crossfire???


maybe not look at this:

If you want more than 60hz you'll have to buy 2 new cards, because the old ones can work only at 60hz, how convinient from ati (instead of buying just the cf edition now you have to buy 2 new cards from new gen)
http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050927_121059.html

[caater]

3dmark2001se run would be great! :)

[-47-!]

ATi can never get things released like ever it takes them so long

[Supertim0r]

3dmark2001se run would be great! :)
yup ! should be great...maybe 40k stock ? :eek:

[n00b 0f l337]

Here I'll give you a taste so I dont have to put up some smileys....

HWA NoL: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75268&page=1&pp=25
afIr3wIthIn: Oo
afIr3wIthIn: stock xfire=high clocked 7800 rig
afIr3wIthIn: nice
HWA NoL: that right there
HWA NoL: is better
HWA NoL: MUCH Better
HWA NoL: than sex
HWA NoL: in any form
afIr3wIthIn: LOL

[perkam]

The R520, in either single or dual mode, isn't limited by the 60hz barrier... ;)

Perkam

[nachthymnen]

Great!!!A good ATI answer to nVidia's SLI :D (sorry for my english)

[biohead]

sounds great!

[Comp-Freak]

Damn, why didn't they send those toys to me ;)

Have fun with it Sampsa. Can't wait to see some r520 results in X-Fire.

[Sampsa]

I was busy today but still managed to run few quick tests.

High performance from drivers, FX-57 running @ 3,3 GHz and graphics cards running GPU: 585 MHz and Memory: 595 MHz scored 12500 in 3DMark05. I'll do few more test runs tomorrow and try to hit 13k.

Then I'm off to Ibiza!

[perkam]

Then I'm off to Ibiza!

Ibiza --> R520 launch. Have fun there. Though do drop by after for a summary of events from someone who's been there first hand :)

*:confused: Is macci going ? :confused:*

Perkam

[n00b 0f l337]

I wonder if they'd allow u in with a small video camera to get some info/video for us all. ;)

[Mr_Slinky]

I wonder if they'd allow u in with a small video camera to get some info/video for us all. ;)

that is probably part of the confidentiality agreement for them(or i would be guessing it would be and security would be tight)
you might be able to sneek a cellphone out and pretend like your calling someone and seek a quick pix and send to someone but that is just an idea

[Onepagebook]

what happened to the FX57 deault speed 2.8g @ 1.776v..:D

Very nice stuff.:p:

[JuanFlaiter]

Sampsa, before you go partying to Ibiza, have you had any problems with the vCore reading? Our motherboard, as metro.cl told you, will always tell you are at 1.75vCore, although we haven't set it up that high, and it's definitely not at that voltage (just by touching the heatsink I can know it).

If not, would you mind telling me where is the point of measurement for CPU voltage?

Thanks again. You helped me before with the G70 at time of launch.

Good luck in Ibiza, wonderful women over there :D We weren't invited, hope they make a party in Brasil for the Latin America press :toast: , and my R520 hasn't left Canada. Things get so late here, we where at R360 launch yesterday :stick:

[Sampsa]

Hi, looks like at least CPU-Z is reading Vcore 1,776 no matter what.

[\Karting_freak]

Sampsa
Give us some more tests!

I heard master cards have chips that overclock better... is your doing better?

[jrw]

I like the frames on your pics :)

[Tibu]

Doom3 runs fine @ 1600x1200 (4x AA / 16 x ANI) but Battlefield 2 is requires resoltion dropped to 1024x768 (4x / 16x ANI). High performance quality settings gives 11200 in 3DMark05 at default clocks.

Unfortunately the bottom line is that CrossFire is ~6 months too late and it has some problems like 60 hz limit. Also performance / price can't compete with single GeForce 7800 GTX.



^ QFT :fact: :slapass:

[Magnj]

dude he is right, get over it.

[gundamit]

I know you're working with a FX so HTT limit is not an issue since you can just bump up the multi, but for those of us who only have a max of a 9 multi to give (A.K.A. cheap bastards) please let us know if you can get the HTT over the 318 reported at Anand. Really need at least >334+ if we're going to make the Opteron 939 144s fly. A simple screenie would be greatly appreciated.

[-R@mi-]

Nice system you got there. :)

[Sampsa]

Here is my final CrossFire Radeon X850 XT result:

http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/video/crossfire/crossfire_580_594_3353_thumb.png

Full size screenshot (http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/video/crossfire/crossfire_580_594_3353.png)

FX-57 running at 3,35 GHz, with more time / tweaking I could have had it propably to run higher. This CPU can do 3,45 GHz with Vapochill LS on DFI nF4 SLI-DR. Graphics cards running GPU: 580 MHz and memory: 595 MHz.

Didn't reach 13k with air cooling on cards. In 3DMark05 race Radon X850 XT CrossFire is better than GeForce 6800 Ultra, but that's already the past.. now I'm looking ahead.. :cool:

Over and out.

[Sampsa]

I know you're working with a FX so HTT limit is not an issue since you can just bump up the multi, but for those of us who only have a max of a 9 multi to give (A.K.A. cheap bastards) please let us know if you can get the HTT over the 318 reported at Anand. Really need at least >334+ if we're going to make the Opteron 939 144s fly. A simple screenie would be greatly appreciated.

I should get DFI LanParty UT RDX200-CF-DR (ATI Xpress 200 Crossfire) motherboard in two weeks so I'll report how far I can push it. I'm also interested of this S939 Opteron case.

[gundamit]

I should get DFI LanParty UT RDX200-CF-DR (ATI Xpress 200 Crossfire) motherboard in two weeks so I'll report how far I can push it. I'm also interested of this S939 Opteron case.If you're getting a engineering or review sample, two weeks for you means the pre-orders release dates I'm seeing that list the first week of October are not accurate. Just like the DFI NF4-SLI mobo before it'll ship late. As long as its great I guess its worth the wait.

I'm sure a lot of XS members are looking forward to your reports on the DFI LanParty UT RDX200-CF-DR. DFI has a long streak of successful mobos. I hope it continues.

[Sampsa]

If you're getting a engineering or review sample, two weeks for you means the pre-orders release dates I'm seeing that list the first week of October are not accurate. Just like the DFI NF4-SLI mobo before it'll ship late. As long as its great I guess its worth the wait.

I'm sure a lot of XS members are looking forward to your reports on the DFI LanParty UT RDX200-CF-DR. DFI has a long streak of successful mobos. I hope it continues.

Sorry, I think I'll receive the board already in the beginning of next week! It was shipped from DFI yesterday.

[Dynasty]

Yeah, I too am very interested in any input/review done on the
DFI LanParty UT RDX200-CF-DR. Any idea on max. Vdimm ?.
I know they are staying away from the +5v jumper concept, but with all the Winbond chips out there I hope they have atleast too 3.8-4Vdimm.

[speed bump]

Nice maybe we might actually be able to see Crossfire in action before the next generation of video cards comes out of ATI.(then again these might see alot of action cause no one can find an x1800 but who knows)

[JuanFlaiter]

I know you're working with a FX so HTT limit is not an issue since you can just bump up the multi, but for those of us who only have a max of a 9 multi to give (A.K.A. cheap bastards) please let us know if you can get the HTT over the 318 reported at Anand. Really need at least >334+ if we're going to make the Opteron 939 144s fly. A simple screenie would be greatly appreciated.

We could make it to 350mhz with default voltages. When we try to push up the NB voltage the system hangs. Hope it gets repaired.

[gundamit]

We could make it to 350mhz with default voltages. When we try to push up the NB voltage the system hangs. Hope it gets repaired.That's a little dissapointing but I picked up a Opteron 146 as well so 350 should be plenty. Hopefully just a bios change to get the HTT higher. Thanks for your reply.

[HousERaT]

That's a little dissapointing but I picked up a Opteron 146 as well so 350 should be plenty. Hopefully just a bios change to get the HTT higher. Thanks for your reply.
Who's selling the opterons already? I thought they were just preorder?

[DRDNA333]

You can't even do that with a non crossfire setup...I can't think of any monitor ever made that could do 1600x1200@100hz. The only rez i know for sure that can do that is 1024x768..
my 20inch viewsonic is good at 1600x1200@120mhz

[perkam]

Indeed....pls stop waking up the zombie threads !!

Perkam