The Epox Challange !!!

[OPPAINTER]

All right, Thanks to DDTUNG I picked up a 8RDA today. I just did a chipset mod. What Bios is the hot item before I put this in the Prometeia and do some Overclocking??

Thanks,

OPP

[Radea]

It seems the new C31 is doing great things for everyone. Grab it @ http://www.epox.com.tw/file/8RDA2C31.BIN. Its for the 8RDA+ btw, not sure if you got a 8RDA or 8RDA+.

Anyway I cant wait to see how you do on this thing :)

[OPPAINTER]

I don't think this is a plus mobo. Will it still work??

OPP

[Radea]

Unfortunatly, no :(. Taken from EPoX's 8RDA FAQ:
BIOS flash problems.
Our Nvidia based motherboards use a different style of BIOS chips than our other products. To successfully flash the BIOS you will need AWDFLASH.EXE v8.22a or newer. Older flash tools will corrupt the BIOS and leave the board dead. Please ensure to only download BIOS updates for our boards from an official EPoX website. Please note BIOS update files are not interchangeable between the EP-8RDA and EP-8RDA+.


So I'd just recommend using the only BIOS out there for non-plus boards (besides stock one,
http://www.epox.com/html/motherboard-download.asp?id=4LZ33Nt3C1q43h0hC1x01b0m0io3q2d2N2 F20p0Y1Az0&media=u4v3k34AE14Qh3H01Cx0b10m0I3o2sD23bf20Oa0&lang=1&date=P4U33Nt30Zt4H30h1c0X1Bm00i3O2wL11c4xE33On2T2r 3n2

Edit: ftp://ftp.epox.com/motherboard/support/BIOS/8RD12C16.exe - Seems the non-direct link doesnt work :rolleyes:

[Hallowed]

OPP, I think C16 is the latest for the 8RDA standard.

SKATAN has wpcredit tweaks that seem to work well with C16, or so I hear.

Cant wait to see you bench 3d @ 225 FSB :D

[Nohto]

TodB
You just need the c16 bios or even the c27 ( very new ) BIOS.... can give you some links If ya want
Opp I don't know if those will work on the non + or not. That was taken from the thread 8RDA+ vs. NFS-7, who's the champ. I can't get into the
AOA forums they must be having problems with their server.

[BrainStorm]

Anyone know how long it takes him to get things all set up? I want to find what the EPOX can do with OPPAINTER style cooling! But will it happen tonight or will we have to wait until tomorrow for some results?

[Bravo]

OPP, i'd go for the C27 BIOS. I've hosted it here, along with the WinFlash utility (saves you booting to a disk, and 5 minutes to flash the bastard). Load up default settings, get into windows, flash, and reboot.

http://bravo.ausgamers.com/Epox/c27.rar

I've found it to be faster with the benchmarks then C31, and its probably on par with C16 (couldnt be bothered flashing back that far).

[OPPAINTER]

Well I just had it set up on a test bench, CPU, mem, Vidcard, floppy.

I have 1.8V right now for the chipset, the NB gets very hot. I'll set it up tomorrow, I need to rig up my watercooling loop for the NB. After flashing to the C16 I got all the multipliers, I also booted up to 230Mhz, of coarse this was just booting, have to see tomorrow what she will do in Windows:D

OPP

[Bravo]

Crap, dont flash to my BIOS.

Forgot about the + :/

[OPPAINTER]

I'll check out all the bios stuff when it's running.

OPP

[Entuscan]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I'll check out all the bios stuff when it's running.

OPP

Don't try to max out your cpu with the original bios!
It completly hosed my bios chip.

[SlimHitman]

uhh...what is a chipset mod?

[zakelwe]

People have used the non + BIOS in the past with the + motherboard and it works, except you lose the + features like sound.

Not sure if it works the other way around though.

Good luck with your tests. As you will have tested Epox and Abit boards it will be interesting to hear your views on both.

Regards

Andy

[TodB]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I'll check out all the bios stuff when it's running.

OPP

Why didn't you get the "+" version?

Anyway you should try with the latest c16 from the EPoX site, but I'm kindda sure that you got it allready on that board:

http://www.epox.nl/BIOS/8RD12C16.zip

Also put some serious cooling on both chips - MCP-T and the northbridge SPP...

[baller02]

you can use all bios version + or not i flashed also non + bios versions on my 8rda+, so it should be no problem!!!
use 2c31 if you can it solves some multiplier issues ...multiplier 13,5 and 14 were not so stable with other bios version so try 2c31;)

[baller02]

if your machine doesn't boot up and peep or awdflash or something come up on boot, shut off ...hold insert key and boot up and there you are;)

[xtreme]

hm go opp go ;) plz tell me how the hyperx is doin' on the 8rda... wanna buy such a stick too :)

my 2nd corsair doesn't do 225 @ 2.86v.. so only single channel at the moment

[althes]

Well the day of reckoning is here.
Go Opp Go
Hes our man
Well Newegg has the non + back in stock I may pick up one later, if has good results.

[Emericana]

that should be a crazy system opp water cooling and prometia and i dont even know what you do to your gpu but i am sure it is awesome also!

[BrainStorm]

Somewhat OT, but is there any difference between the 8rda and 8rda+ other than the integrated lan and 6 (vs. 2) channel sound?

They should both OC the same, shouldn't they?

[Svenn]

BrainStorm, that's a good question. I'm also wondering which southbridge do they use? It can't be the MCP-T because that has 2 LAN and Soundstorm.... Wonder if that will make a big difference?

[Radea]

Yeah, thats the only differences I'm aware of. So they *should* oc the same :)

[OPPAINTER]

Well I'm up and running, I can't get my Camara progy working or I'd put up some pictures, I have the NorthBridge water cooled, it's running well right now at 210x13. I haven't gone up more yet. I can say the 3D scores, no Card Overclock, look pretty good. I just hope the I can keep going up with the FSB.

OPP

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by Svenn
BrainStorm, that's a good question. I'm also wondering which southbridge do they use? It can't be the MCP-T because that has 2 LAN and Soundstorm.... Wonder if that will make a big difference?

Svenn, according to Anandtech the 8rda+ does use the MCP-T, just doesn't implement Soundstorm or second lan. I think Asus is the only manufacturer who has implemented both lans.

Anandtech link: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1759&p=17

and OPP, sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread...I'll shut up and wait for your results now ;)

[BrainStorm]

hmmm...look what happened while I was busy editing my post...:)

OPP, how long before you really start cranking it up?

[OPPAINTER]

Hey,

Any wpcredit tweaks to get the Idle temps (halt) down on this thing??

Thanks,

OPP

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by BrainStorm
hmmm...look what happened while I was busy editing my post...:)

OPP, how long before you really start cranking it up?

I have about an hour I think before I start to really bench 3D.

OPP

[Bushboy]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I just hope the I can keep going up with the FSB.

OPP

With my HyperX and 8RDA+ I can bench 3d at 226FSB 4-2-2-2...But only with 10x multipler, I'm sure you can run that high and with a multi of like 12.5x, which would yield veyr nice scores :D

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I have about an hour I think before I start to really bench 3D.

OPP

See everyone around 6:00 or so CST...:D

[AKRedneck]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I have about an hour I think before I start to really bench 3D.

OPP

OPP, could you quote your required Vdd as you keep going up in fsb. Just curious what you'll need for Vdd to complete your 3D with a watercooled NB...
Thanks.. :D

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by AKRedneck
OPP, could you quote your required Vdd as you keep going up in fsb. Just curious what you'll need for Vdd to complete your 3D with a watercooled NB...
Thanks.. :D

Well i'm rock solid at at 215 right now, I will need about 500 more point's to make a 21000 3D run.

[OPPAINTER]

Some cooling action.

OPP

[KingInge2000]

What's the best bios? C16 or the new C31?
What's your AGP?

[Henry]

Opp, compared to NF7, which one is faster clock for clock ?

Thanks :)

[Radea]

Well Im not Opp but I beleive the NF7 is faster clock for clock, in 3D anyway :). But the voltage isnt as good as the epox goes to 2.2VCore, and the high FSB-end doesnt have as many adjustments (like, 100-200 in 1 increments, above that its different points like 210 215 237, but i dunno the specifics)

[Nico]

Opp,

Keep up the good work :thumbsup:

Are you going for the vdimm mod too at some stage? as I take it your maxed out at 2.9 in bios with that 2.86?

[baller02]

make the vdd mod opp!!!

bevore my max stable dual channel fsb was 215, now i'm @ 225 and going;)

[KingInge2000]

epox goes to 2.2VCore,
But rev. 1.0 only up to 1.9 V is usable!

[OPPAINTER]

I'm stable now at 13x220, 5-2-2 timings, agp is at 1.8.
To get here I had to up the VDD to 1.89 from 1.8.
I'm useing the C16, and I havn't done a mem mod yet.
How high do you guys go with the VDD voltage??

OPP

[Bushboy]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I'm stable now at 13x220, 5-2-2 timings, agp is at 1.8.
To get here I had to up the VDD to 1.89 from 1.8.
I'm useing the C16, and I havn't done a mem mod yet.
How high do you guys go with the VDD voltage??

OPP

I had my VDD at 1.92v with the stupid stock heatisnk with a fan blowing accross...I could feel it get warm but nothing too serious at all :)

[DDTUNG]

OPP I wouldn't go much higher than this, 1.9V maybe.

DDTUNG:cool:

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by DDTUNG
OPP I wouldn't go much higher than this, 1.9V maybe.

DDTUNG:cool:

Yea I was thinking that.

I'm at 223 now, I have to test it for 3D.

OPP

[AKRedneck]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
.. How high do you guys go with the VDD voltage??..

OPP

Vdd of 2.0v here.. No problems so far after a couple days.. Nothing glowing.. Had to do this to get 3d runs at 220. And my NB is aircooled. I think it's hot but 'o well', it works!..

We know your not scared OPP..lol! :D

[gobbo]

I think i saw some one in the VoltMod forum who managed to melt a chip running a 2.0vdd.

From what i've heard 1.9vdd is about the best.

TAKE CAUTION - I AM A n00b

[Nico]

Opp,

What does the MBM high/ low screen look like after a 3dmark run?

[Bushboy]

2.9ghz and 223FSB! Man I thought 12.5 multiplier would be hard but that should turn out great, better than the NF7 me thinks ;)

[BrainStorm]

This is certainly getting interesting...hope it's stable enough for 3D :)

[Radea]

I'd love to see you get it up another few MHz. Try and grab the #1 spot for AMD :banana:

[Wolf]

Looking good man. You should be able to push that processor to 2.15v easily. Mine handles it no problem with straight water. I'd like to see you post a 3g score on AMD 13.5x223 mmm . :toast::slobber:

[SoulEdge]

I'd really like to hear about those 8rda+ wpcredit tweaks. Anything yet to fix the under 10 mulitplier issue killing mem bandwidth?

[Emericana]

man opp thats crazy! 3ghz is not far off!

[OPPAINTER]

I ran into some problems, my radeon doesn't want to Overclock at 220 and up. I can do maybe 5 tests before a blue screen or reboot, its the Radeon Overclock doing it. I have to figuer somthing out because I'm getting some outradgeosly high runs, if I could only make it through :D

OPP

[STEvil]

Opp, COOL THOSE MOSFETS!! 8-)

What chip was it, exactly, that blew at 1.95v or whatever it was for that guy? Maybe some cooling for it might help? If its that hot at that speed, it must be hot at lower speeds, too?

EDIT

Would better cooling of the power regulation area of the R9700 Pro help? Theres already cooling on it, but its just a plate.. 8-/

[RoydRage]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I ran into some problems, my radeon doesn't want to Overclock at 220 and up. I can do maybe 5 tests before a blue screen or reboot, its the Radeon Overclock doing it. I have to figuer somthing out because I'm getting some outradgeosly high runs, if I could only make it through :D

OPP

Nice Job As usual...

But OPP...

That does not make sense... The AGP Buss is locked, and the FSB should not affect the card. Is that not right?

Maybe try manually selecting 66MHz...

RoydRage

[OPPAINTER]

I believe it was the lack on the 5V line, very weak. I turned it up but now my 12V is running like 13V :D Oh well. The card is clocking well at 219. Here's a tease, the next one will be for my buddy DJ :D


EPOS POWER

[DDTUNG]

Go OPP, GO!

:toast: :toast: :banana: :banana: :toast: :toast:

DDTUNG:cool:

[STEvil]

I spy a spelling error! 8-)

man am I bored.. 8-/

EDIT

Someone donate Opp a non-crippled 9700pro 8-)

[BrainStorm]

oh yeah, baby! GO OPP GO!!!

[STEvil]

omg.. its been 20 mins and opp hasnt made a new post..

!!! 8-)

The suspense is killing me, lol 8-)

EDIT

20.. darn clock on puter is 8 mins slow.. 8-)

[MrIcee]

Give her hell my friend:thumbsup:

Looking like you'll be taking your friend down very easily indeed..along wth your own latest Intel score:toast:

Onwards and upwards !!
Randi:D

[MrLavender]

Hehe, I noticed that he just un-published his previous AMD score from the ORB, just as I went to look at the details. Must be something better going up...:D

Absolutely fantastic work OPP!!! :toast: :toast: :toast: GO! GO!

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by MrLavender
Hehe, I noticed that he just un-published his previous AMD score from the ORB, just as I went to look at the details. Must be something better going up...:D

Absolutely fantastic work OPP!!! :toast: :toast: :toast: GO! GO!

i just put the NF7 back up :D

For some odd reason the Orb won't let me publish these new Epox benches. I have to find out whats going on.

OPP

[Hallowed]

Holy ****.

Damn what a score. :thumbsup:

The ORB wont publish it? Others have had the same issue, I think it sees your FSB speed and determines it to be a fake. Remember awhile back when they wouldn't allow 4 GHz Intel scores?

[STEvil]

I wonder if there are errors being introduced at these clock speeds?

But if there were, that wouldnt make sense, because the P4 would do it, too..

You should take a set of PSU's and wire them together, opp 8-)

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
i just put the NF7 back up :D

For some odd reason the Orb won't let me publish these new Epox benches. I have to find out whats going on.

OPP AAAAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!!!

The suspense is killing me! :D

[BrainStorm]

I know there's a thread in here somewhere about problems at the Orb publishing high FSB scores on Epox boards...anyone seen what I'm remebering and know where to read about it? Thought I saw something where someone had a workaround...time to start searching...

[SPQQKY]

Holy Testical Tuesday!!!!

[OPPAINTER]

Check it out, it is reporting the wrong clock speed. The Active one was just done at 2859Mhz and the first one was done at 13mhz less. I guess the orb or the mobo will need a fix if we are going to put the Epox on top :D All you Epox Gurus need to ask mad Oinion what the problem is with my scores. I have to keep going while I'm on a roll:D

OPP

[Emericana]

Well even though it doesnt say so on the orb lookin at that you are #4 in the world and you have a AMD!!!!!!!!!

CONGRATS!

[Nico]

Wasn't the fix, to save the file then go to submit file and select the saved file?

[STEvil]

Too bad that 23k one isnt at 1024, lol 8-)

3Dmark has a hard time reading CPU speeds for some reason...

Take a look at my thing.. its detected as like 1.6 and im actually running 1.66... 8-/

EDIT

Yeah, try "submit saved result"... I always do it that way and have never had a problem yet..

EDIT 2

It shows correctly on the orb.. 8-/ Not in 3DMark2k1, though..

EDIT 3

I cant get on there either.. checking again right now.. no workies.. 8-(

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by BrainStorm
I know there's a thread in here somewhere about problems at the Orb publishing high FSB scores on Epox boards...anyone seen what I'm remebering and know where to read about it? Thought I saw something where someone had a workaround...time to start searching... Is this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7169) the thread you mean? Don't see any fix in there. :(

*edit* There is a link in that thread to another on the Futuremark forum, but I can't seem to get onto any part of their site except the ORB. :confused:

[DR. YT]

could the orb being down have somthing to do with this

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by MrLavender
Is this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7169) the thread you mean? Don't see any fix in there. :(

*edit* There is a link in that thread to another on the Futuremark forum, but I can't seem to get onto any part of their site except the ORB. :confused:

MrLavender...that was one of the threads...but I also seem to recall, now that Nico mentions it, that the supposed fix was to save and then submit, but it looks like OPP has already saved, but just can't submit.

Unless OPP tried to submit it first, couldn't, and then saved it, and needs to try resubmitting now that he's saved it!

OPP, have you tried submitting after you saved?

EDIT: See my next post for a somewhat better statement of all this :rolleyes:

[STEvil]

Orb is up...

Rest of madonion/futuremark is down...

I think I have had 5 consecutive heart attacks waiting for opp to drop JC with a 23k score.. 8-)

Run a 640x480 and give us a pic, opp 8-)

EDIT

What vcore are you using? I thought you got this thing to try and pull 3166, heh 8-)

[SPQQKY]

As you can see from his previous post, it's already in his project manager, just wrong cpu speed. This happens to me often, especially with pcmark.

EDIT: my bad, publish, not submit.....doh!:eek:

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by SPQQKY
As you can see from his previous post, it's already in his project manager, just wrong cpu speed. This happens to me often, especially with pcmark.

EDIT: my bad, publish, not submit.....doh!:eek:

Actually, my last post was somewhat confusing on the submit vs. publish aspect. I think the supposed fix was to save before submitting, and then submit the saved file, as Nico suggests.

What it looks like is that OPP has submitted, but can't publish since there doesn't appear to be a check box for publishing.

OPP, did you save the project before you submitted it? If so, maybe you can resubmit the saved project (don't know whether you'd have to delete the original submission first or not).

[FragBuckler]

Sweeeet! i just read through this all.... GO OPP! :toast:
Not to wish JC bad or anything, but i would LOVE to see AMD on the top for 3dmark...

[MrIcee]

OPP:)

I have had the same trouble with the NF7-S the last 2 days. I adapted the Ti4200 volt mod to the ABIT Siluro Ti4200 OTES, which is a physically different card from the other Ti4200's..and have been doing R+D on the NF7-S on air.Every 3rd or 4th submission to the ORB couldn't be published. All CPU and card clocks were consistent from test to test...no rational reason for the scores being s*hit-canned.

There is definitely something with these nForce2 boards that are giving the ORB fits...or maybe more correctly, the 3Dmark2001 software..as it's the software detecting clock speeds, card clocks etc, etc. Keep plugging away my friend...just an outstanding job:)

Randi:D

[spaceman]

Originally posted by STEvil
Orb is up...

Rest of madonion/futuremark is down... Well, hopefully, that means they're doin' some serious updating. ;) Go OPP, show the EPoX non-believers, and take #1 while you're at it. :D

[FragBuckler]

Originally posted by spaceman
Well, hopefully, that means they're doin' some serious updating. ;) Go OPP, show the EPoX non-believers, and take #1 while you're at it. :D

darn right! epoxs' rock!

[OPPAINTER]

I've saved and then submited and sent the result straight, and they both come up with no check box. I see the problem, it's the CPU speed is incorrect so the ORB is thinking it's a Fraud :D

Anyway, this epox has some problems, I can't use core voltage over 2.075, if I do I can't get into Windows. So there goes my 2900 Mhz plus 3d benches. Just can't get a nForce to work right around here, sure does some nice 3D though:D

OPP

[QuadDamage]

first of all, GJ OPP:)

i think they're preparing ORB for new 3dmark, my friends:)

i also had problems with publishing scores with Asus A7N8X and Asus Ti4200 AGP 8X. I think it's not nForce itself messing up with ORB but AGP 8X on these mobos... well, just my opinion.

OPP,

keep your setup rolling for new 3dmark2003:D

[STEvil]

I think a 5v mod may be in order... 8-/

Are we topping out the nForce? 8-)

[OPPAINTER]

Se Ya DJ , heh heh :D :banana:
Got ya with a little old AMD chip :D
Thanks DDTUNG ;)


OPP

[OPPAINTER]

Can't publish this either, it is the right Mhz though.

[DDTUNG]

Deja vu.

DDTUNG:cool:

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by DDTUNG
Deja vu.

DDTUNG:cool:

Its been way to long:D

OPP

[BrainStorm]

WOW! Congrats OPP! That's kicking *ss and taking names! :toast:

Now if you can just figure out how to get the Orb to publish it :rolleyes:

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by BrainStorm
WOW! Congrats OPP! That's kicking *ss and taking names! :toast:

Now if we can just figure out how to get the Orb to publish it :rolleyes:

Yea, somebody get me a e-mail, this score has to published.
This was done on a old second hand OS, went straight from my NF7 to this mobo. I would predict takeing down Holicho by the end of the week with a clean install and a little figuering out the mobo. Maybe when I flash the bios and put in a new OS and it will somehow fix the Orb problem.

OPP

[BrainStorm]

Let's hope so! Well, have a good night. It's getting kinda late here in Dallas, but thanks for the late night entertainment. ;)

And congrats once more...terrific job!

[QuadDamage]

OPP,

did you save the project and then tried to publish it, or you hit publish right after you did 3dmark run? damn, even ORB is Intel biased, lol:D

[STEvil]

Need more fsb...! 8-)

[OPPAINTER]

Heres some more FSB:)

And Quad, I did both methods, nothing works.

OPP

[AKRedneck]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Heres some more FSB:)....


OPP, what timings are you running?

[OPPAINTER]

On my 3D runs I was at 4-2-2- CL2, on the post above it was like 7-2-2- CL2.

OPP

[AKRedneck]

Well, I'm running 3-2-2 at the moment, approx same fsb as your runs.. I haven't seen any increase in sandra going from 4 to 3, however I haven't had time to check the diff in 3d. Apparently it makes a difference.

[STEvil]

Yeah.. bed time.. !

8-) Gonna log on tomarrow afternoon and have this thread be 9 pages long... damn. lol 8-)

[Wolf]

Great job on those bench scores. Do you think closing all the L11 bridges will give you more volts on those boards? I know it helps to get higher volts on most epox board if you give the cpu 1.85v by default. I'm sure you will figure it out soon enough.

[Shroomer]

Congrats on the score man :D :toast:

I just got a 8rda+ and a 2700 same stepping as you :D

could you tell me what PSU and bios you are using ?

[QuadDamage]

OPP,

I mailed worm as well as MO's support. Let's see what they have to say... althought they've never replied to me in the past, they fixed ORB not long time after i let them know about those glitches.

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Se Ya DJ , heh heh :D :banana:
Got ya with a little old AMD chip :D
Thanks DDTUNG ;)


OPP Back after 5 hrs sleep and WWWOOOWWW!!!!! You DID it!!! :slobber: :slobber: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Extreme congratulations. :toast: AMD back in the top 3!!! :D :D Hope it gets published soon, get your finger out FM. :mad:

[QuadDamage]

keep on benchin, OPP. The whole AMD world prays for you now:) lol. how's going with your video ram?

[SKATAN]

Opp

I dont know if you are still using the epos 8rda

if you are and want to improve 200+ points send me a PM and ill tell you the trick (only works for 8rda/+) :)

being unable to publish those score must be a §§§§§


im looking at those chase and lobby numbers and they look amazing

[Hardass]

Well Done OPP! as always.:thumbsup: :toast:

[AKRedneck]

Originally posted by SKATAN
Opp

I dont know if you are still using the epos 8rda

if you are and want to improve 200+ points send me a PM and ill tell you the trick (only works for 8rda/+) :)...

SKATAN, share the wealth buddy.. a few more of us would love to hear about your WPCREDIT tweaks.....
:D

[spaceman]

Originally posted by QuadDamage
I think it's not nForce itself messing up with ORB but AGP 8X on these mobos... well, just my opinion. Yep, that's gotta be at least part of the problem. Every time I run 3DMark, it shows me usin' 2x, when it's clearly set to 8x in the BIOS, and SANDRA '03 confirms 8x. Worst of all, it always shows my 2400+ as a Duron. :rolleyes: I'd almost rather have it just say "unknown". :p

[Bravo]

Hey OPP. Not sure if you've done this, but i had problems with stability/posting over 2.05v. Found out the Power MOSFETs were overheating.

If you havent already checked them out, give em a quick once over with the ol' Mark 1 finger.

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by AKRedneck
SKATAN, share the wealth buddy.. a few more of us would love to hear about your WPCREDIT tweaks.....
:D Yeah. :D 'Specially now that this is definitely gonna be my next mobo...:)

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by Bravo
Hey OPP. Not sure if you've done this, but i had problems with stability/posting over 2.05v. Found out the Power MOSFETs were overheating.

If you havent already checked them out, give em a quick once over with the ol' Mark 1 finger.

Yea I was going to through a heat sink on them when I set up the mobo but the heat sink I had was to wide so I have to cut it down first to fit it in there.

OPP

[PCGenious]

Damn dude your score is insane, where can I find the rig specs of that. Also I have had the same prob with my 8rda+ not publishing scores. It pisses me off. ORB really needs to fix that.

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by spaceman
Yep, that's gotta be at least part of the problem. Every time I run 3DMark, it shows me usin' 2x, when it's clearly set to 8x in the BIOS, and SANDRA '03 confirms 8x. Worst of all, it always shows my 2400+ as a Duron. :rolleyes: I'd almost rather have it just say "unknown". :p

I doubt that the 8x is the problem, I have been publishing all my other scores with it at 8x or 4x, didn't matter. the only time I have ever seen this can't publish message was from this mobo yesterday.

OPP

[OPPAINTER]

Rig specs.

Prometeia cooled XP2700 13x119 @ 1.98V, 8RDA mobo, 2x IBM 120 GXPs Raid-0 on Promise FF Card, 2x 256Mb Kingston HyperX 3500 @ 2.86V, 9700 Radeon at 501/355

OPP

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by Shroomer
Congrats on the score man :D :toast:

I just got a 8rda+ and a 2700 same stepping as you :D

could you tell me what PSU and bios you are using ?

I have a TTGI PSU and I'm useing the C16 sofar.
http://xtreme.routehero.com/mricee/images/myweb6/ttgi_review_1.htm

OPP

[DR. YT]

hey opp in all honisty do you think you got a shot at hilo's 2nd place or do you think you have reached the limits?

[MrLavender]

Found the relevant thread (http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=mo3dmark2001&Number=1554499&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1#Post1554499) now that the Futuremark forums are working again. The explanation from a staff member was that the cpu speed varied too much during testing, so it definitely must be something to do with the way 3dMark detects it on NF1/NF2 boards. :(

Hello everybody...

I took a look at the projects that some of you in this
thread submitted to find out what is the problem. In all
disabled projects that I found the problem was that the cpu
speed varied during testing.

There are certain set limits to how much cpu speed can
change during testing (some variation is allowed because it
always happens in some extent) but in the projects that I
reviewed the variation was marked to be over the limits.
Too much variation in CPU speed may distort the score to
the point that it really does not reflect the actual
performance of the computer and this is why the frequency
is checked multiple times during testing.
There are many reasons why this happens (overclocking
being just one of them) and it does not nessesserily happen
constantly (you can have two runs in same settings where
one has this behaiviour and another does not) so basically
when this happens it is usually just different variables in the
testing combining in a "wrong" way that leads to
momenterily speed variation in the CPU.

::Risto C

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by MrLavender
Found the relevant thread (http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=mo3dmark2001&Number=1554499&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1#Post1554499) now that the Futuremark forums are working again. The explanation from a staff member was that the cpu speed varied too much during testing, so it definitely must be something to do with the way 3dMark detects it on NF1/NF2 boards. :(

Wow, interesting post. But the question becomes: will they accept the score, or does OPP just have to keep running the benckmark in the hope that the CPU speed straightens itself out on one of his runs? It didn't sound like from that post that the folks at FM were willing to allow scores in those situations. That would suck.

EDIT: and hey, it seems strange in that OPPS first 21K+ score the CPU speed was misreported and he wasn't able to publish (which does make sense), but on the last higher one, his CPU speed was correctly reported as I recall (which does not make so much sense). If 3dMark checks CPU speed multiple times, I wonder how it determines what to report?

[The Reeferman]

Hey guys,

I'm looking for a new board for a friend of me. First I was thinking off the asus NF2. But I heard the The Multiplier is locked with a 2400+. He won't unlock his chip so I need a board that unlocks the xp2400+ by default. What about the epox, can I change the MP of the 2400+ without core or pin mods???

[DR. YT]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BrainStorm
[B]Wow, interesting post. But the question becomes: will they accept the score, or does OPP just have to keep running the benckmark in the hope that the CPU speed straightens itself out on one of his runs? It didn't sound like from that post that the folks at FM were willing to allow scores in those situations. That would suck.

i was thinking the same thing did any of the people in the original thred ever get posted

[STEvil]

So, out of curiosity, anyone tried taking their heatsink off their P4 and seeing if it would still run?

I (and a few others here, im sure) would be interested in if the benchmark result could be published if a heatsink had been removed part way through the bench so as to invoke the P4's thermal protection... 8-)

I smell fish.

[br@insc@n]

Opp, have you modded your XP2700+ by cutting the one L12 bridge?

I've got the 8RDA+ and the same CPU, but I cannot use multis >12.5. Had this "bug" occured before you changed to c16?

thx br@insc@n

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by STEvil
So, out of curiosity, anyone tried taking their heatsink off their P4 and seeing if it would still run?

I (and a few others here, im sure) would be interested in if the benchmark result could be published if a heatsink had been removed part way through the bench so as to invoke the P4's thermal protection... 8-)

I smell fish. Some ppl made exactly the same point in the original thread on the FM forum, and further claimed that there were many examples of published benchmarks with thermal throttling. The response....a deafening silence. :(

The only way this could make sense is if the benchmark is sometimes getting a *wildly* inaccurate reading from NF boards.

There are many ways of measuring/estimating cpu speed in a program, and I suspect that to make cheating harder 3dMark probably uses a pretty non-standard method. I know that even on my KX7 the reported speed never agrees exactly with what either the bios or wcpuid says (especially when you fiddle with settings like Enhance For Benchmark which add an extra MHz or so to the fsb).

All speculation, but what it comes down to is that it's going to be up to FM whether to allow it or not. And like was said, no-one else seems to have had any luck. :(

MrIcee says above that this situation applies to one out of 3 or 4 submissions with the NF7-S. Can you get any scores at all published with this board OPP?

[MrIcee]

OPP:)

There may be another problem in publishing the scores. If the board is not 100% stable at your present clocks(even tho it is is or appears to be physically in finishing the benches), 3DMark detects flucuation in speeds...be it CPU or videocard...and it embeds that info in the.3dp. When you submit...their filter won't let you publish upon detecting this flucuation.

I went thru that with my 18,864 score a couple months ago. (KX7)Perfect run.....straight thru....but it couldn't be published. I wrote RistoC and asked what was going on..and he explained this anomalie to me. I did have the board right at the edge..and my thoughts are possibly, tho all appears 100% stable and perfect, that maybe there is an idiosyncrasy(sp) with the 8RDA+ at top clocks that is causing a problem, showing flucuations in the .3dp. Food for thought my friend:)

Randi:D

[Shroomer]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I have a TTGI PSU and I'm useing the C16 sofar.
http://xtreme.routehero.com/mricee/images/myweb6/ttgi_review_1.htm

OPP

Thanx for the reply big guy :D

I have been reading that the 8rda is a PSU monster :eek:
and that the rails do need to be adjusted no matter what PSU you use and even more so if you have dual chanel in use and are heavy on the vdimm :(

Looks like I will have to pick one of these PSU's up later ;)

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by br@insc@n
Opp, have you modded your XP2700+ by cutting the one L12 bridge?

I've got the 8RDA+ and the same CPU, but I cannot use multis >12.5. Had this "bug" occured before you changed to c16?

thx br@insc@n

It's cut yes, but even before I flashed I couldn't use higher Multipliers, when I flashed to C16 I got all the multipliers.

OPP

[OPPAINTER]

I did one run at 115x13 stock card speed, and it went through, other then that one I can't get any published.

OPP

[DoGMaN]

WOW!!! Thats a sick score!! Good job thats just damn amazing :D

[TodB]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I did one run at 115x13 stock card speed, and it went through, other then that one I can't get any published.

OPP

So OPP, you kindda liked that EPoS board, eh?

I knew you would ;)

[-=Astennu=-]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Heres some more FSB:)

And Quad, I did both methods, nothing works.

OPP

Heey i have got my fsb @ 220 but my max sandra score was 3280. I was using the C10 bios. I have tested the C31 And it works fine. ist more stable here.But my mem scores dit not increes. :mad: I have got Twinmos Pc3200 5 Ns. Anyboy who knows the problem ? My cas settins are 2.5-2-2-7

[TheDong]

Originally posted by -=Astennu=-
Heey i have got my fsb @ 220 but my max sandra score was 3280. I was using the C10 bios. I have tested the C31 And it works fine. ist more stable here.But my mem scores dit not increes. :mad: I have got Twinmos Pc3200 5 Ns. Anyboy who knows the problem ? My cas settins are 2.5-2-2-7

what multiplier are you running? sandra is known to report low scores for multipliers below 10.

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by -=Astennu=-
Heey i have got my fsb @ 220 but my max sandra score was 3280. I was using the C10 bios. I have tested the C31 And it works fine. ist more stable here.But my mem scores dit not increes. :mad: I have got Twinmos Pc3200 5 Ns. Anyboy who knows the problem ? My cas settins are 2.5-2-2-7

The 7 and the CL2.5 doesn't help.

OPP

[OPPAINTER]

OFF Topic:

Just installed a pelt graphics cooler (Swiftech) in the the VapoChill, check it out :D

OPP

[Emericana]

Man. You are so lucky you have all of this cool stuff to tinker with!

vapo and prommie what else could you ask for ?

[OPPAINTER]

CPU Mhz and MBM.

I notice only wcpuid reads the corect Mhz on this mobo, even my MBM has a problem, I keep hiting update CPU and it changes the Mhz to many different numbers except for the correct one:D
Could be the same problem as 3D Mark.

OPP

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by Emericana
Man. You are so lucky you have all of this cool stuff to tinker with!

vapo and prommie what else could you ask for ?

Took a few good years of Hardcore Overclocking to be able to obtain all this stuff.

Kingston is taking this Vapo to Las Vegas for the CES show next week. Xtremesystems will get in some advertising out of the deal:D

OPP

[DR. YT]

cant Kingston aford a vapo for them selves

[spaceman]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
OFF Topic:

Just installed a pelt graphics cooler (Swiftech) in the the VapoChill, check it out :D

OPP I can only imagine THAT will be fun to play with. :D Now all ya need is a modded Lian-Li ('s) like on the front page. :cool:

[Jen]

Congratulations OPP



You done it again.



Now take 1st spot away from JC




Jen

[SKATAN]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
CPU Mhz and MBM.

I notice only wcpuid reads the corect Mhz on this mobo, even my MBM has a problem, I keep hiting update CPU and it changes the Mhz to many different numbers except for the correct one:D
Could be the same problem as 3D Mark.

OPP

Have you tryed to mess with the cpu throttling option in the bios ?

maybe thats the key to the problem

[Asniper]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Took a few good years of Hardcore Overclocking to be able to obtain all this stuff.

Kingston is taking this Vapo to Las Vegas for the CES show next week. Xtremesystems will get in some advertising out of the deal:D

OPP

lol soo lucky, would be a dream to own everything you do. and Congrats again :)


i'm hoping to get a new mobo for my birthday so i can start ocing this 2100+ this a7n266-vm can't oc, but hey the first was right when i got it ( $0 ) :)

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by SKATAN
Have you tryed to mess with the cpu throttling option in the bios ?

maybe thats the key to the problem

I think I dissabled it.

OPP

[spaceman]

Good question, SKATAN. I've never messed with that setting. I wonder what it would do at 100%? Might be smart to ease up the scale, like 60% then 70%, etc. (if default is 50%).

[Bushboy]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I think I dissabled it.

OPP

perhaps leaving it at the default setting (50% I think it is) would not give you these problems? Just an idea, would be nice if it worked ;)

[Emericana]

Cpu throtteling SUCKS atleast in my board. keep it disabled. When running prime 95 with that enabled and at the same time listening to mp3/surfin net, i get my mouse stutterin all over the place!!!! the second i disabled it the prob went away!

[MrIcee]

I've got CPU throttling disabled and had 2 scores rejected for publication yesterday. Its something with the 3DMark software and the NForce2 boards....a mhz flucuation is being detected. Thats the reason it rejects publishing the score, according to the powers that be at FutureMark:)

Randi:D

[Emericana]

thats pretty odd i can submit all of my stuff fine... here is my last one nothin special but still it proves stuff can be sent on 8rda

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5264197

oh yeah opp you prolly did this but just as a suggestion to get a few hundred more points, set your AGP bus at 100mhz if it can handle it... it works great on my ti4200

[STEvil]

I wonder if we can reproduce these "CPU speed" errors..?

I suggest we get like 5 cpu hogging probrams (CPU burn, prim95, sandra burn-in, seti@home for example) and run them all simultaneously...

If this works correctly, it should make the cpu speed do what 3dmark is "experiencing" and we should be able to detect it by hitting refresh with CPU-Z or WCPUID repeatedly...?

Since MBM5 cant detect the cpu speed correctly, but WCPUID can, maybe its a software error?

[-=Astennu=-]

Originally posted by TheDong
what multiplier are you running? sandra is known to report low scores for multipliers below 10.

I'm running 10.5 now and got 3315-3103 At 215 Mhz 2.5-2-2-7. But my cpu has problems. I can run it max @ 2260 mhz @ 200+ mhz fsb's. And @ A FSB of 1600 i can get a 2400 Mhz out of it :confused:. I'm using te C31 bios now Its working perfect. I'm Gonaag get a Weak 49 2400+ Cpu next week i whant 2,5+ Ghz :D My old Weak 41 had To mush problems @ high fsb's

[N8]

Congrats, OPP...awesome scores :)

Hope FM lets you publish these...I find it rather ridiculous that ya can't.....

[sysfailur]

OPP could you please run some pifast! :) I'm interested in seeing what you'd score @ 3ghz ;)

Thx.

[cpulloverclock]

236 IN DUAL DDR
VDD@2.v
VMEM@2.9v
2*Winbond 5ns
tearing because of vmem mod on the GC (TI 4200)

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/236dual.jpg

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by STEvil
I wonder if we can reproduce these "CPU speed" errors..?

I suggest we get like 5 cpu hogging probrams (CPU burn, prim95, sandra burn-in, seti@home for example) and run them all simultaneously...

If this works correctly, it should make the cpu speed do what 3dmark is "experiencing" and we should be able to detect it by hitting refresh with CPU-Z or WCPUID repeatedly...?

Since MBM5 cant detect the cpu speed correctly, but WCPUID can, maybe its a software error? I'm certain it's a software error. Like I said before there are many different ways of detecting cpu speed programmatically. Seems that MBM is also using a method that doesn't work well with the NF2. (IDEA: perhaps the MBM author might be able to shed some light on the cause of the problem?)

This sucks. Unless somebody finds a bios setting or something that gets around the problem it seems that many good NF2 scores won't get published. :(

*EDIT* I've posted here (http://www.livewiredev.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3042) on the MBM forum, let's see if we can get any more info.

[MrIcee]

cpulloverclock:)

Oustanding bandwidth my friend !! :thumbsup:

Also, Welcome to XtremeSystems !!

Randi:D

[Hallowed]

That is some monster bandwidth. Can you bench 3d with that? Yeesh.

[gtcrispy]

I'm glad I ordered this board. Got the non-plus after newegg had the + and the 8K3A+ that I returned out of stock. Maybe I can get my xp1600 up to 2100mhz. I need to unlock it and push the memory up higher. All these high scores make me want to push the limit even more. :D

[Jeff]

Man... that is great! :toast:

And that's at 2.9v? If so... have another :toast: on me. :D

[STEvil]

the NF2 isnt the only board it doesnt detect the cpu speed properly on.

3dmark and MBM5 wont detect my cpu properly on a Shuttle AK11 rev 3.2...

Running an 1800+ at 11x150.89..

MBM detects it as: 1.6
3dmark detects as: 1.6
wcpuid detects as: 1659.78/79.

[Wolf]

MBM always has detected cpu speed wrong for me as well as 3dmark. The only reliable program in the respect is WCPUID. Even on this kt333 board I run so I dont think it has anything to do with Nforce 2 its the programs.

[END]

Off topic here as well sorry


OPP

So which do you like the best as far as Vapo or Prom.
Which is the best for some fast swapping and least worries about condensation.

[BrainStorm]

Well, back to on topic...:D

OPP, are you still trying to get a bench that will publish with this board...or are you waiting for some sort of response from FM...or what is the current status of things? Inquiring minds want to know!

[DR. YT]

Originally posted by BrainStorm
Well, back to on topic...:D

OPP, are you still trying to get a bench that will publish with this board...or are you waiting for some sort of response from FM...or what is the current status of things? Inquiring minds want to know!

word.

[SKATAN]

Originally posted by cpulloverclock
236 IN DUAL DDR
VDD@2.v
VMEM@2.9v
2*Winbond 5ns
tearing because of vmem mod on the GC (TI 4200)

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/236dual.jpg


ouch

now that would run a killer AMD score :D

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by STEvil
the NF2 isnt the only board it doesnt detect the cpu speed properly on.

3dmark and MBM5 wont detect my cpu properly on a Shuttle AK11 rev 3.2...

Running an 1800+ at 11x150.89..

MBM detects it as: 1.6
3dmark detects as: 1.6
wcpuid detects as: 1659.78/79. I agree. Same with my KX7-333.

But the problem with the NF2 seems to be that it detects it wrongly AND the detected speed seems to fluctuate wildly for some reason.

I was thinking that knowing the detection method being used might give some insight. There is one well known method that compares the cpu's internal cycle counter to an external timer (the PC's 8254 RTC timer) over a given delay period and calculates the speed from cpu cycles/time elapsed. But if the RTC goes wobbly (when the chipset is under stress?) ......

A much better idea is to read the multiplier/bus frequency directly from the cpu/chipset if at all possible, which I'm certain is what WCPUID, CPU-Z, etc are doing. Information on how to do this is almost impossible to find though (I've looked!).

Anyway, if I do find out anything else I'll post it.

cpulloverclock, that bandwidth is incredible! :toast: Can you bench with that? :slobber:

[cpulloverclock]

237 IN DUAL DDR
2*WINBOND 5NS (ALWAYS)
VMEM 2.9v
VDD 2.22v

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/237.jpg

[MrLavender]

:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

Isn't 2.22v VDD dangerously high on these boards? Don't blow it up! :D

RE OPP's publishing problem: Alex van Kaam, the MBM author, has pointed me to this FAQ (http://www.livewiredev.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2655) which confirms that MBM uses the counter + timer method to measure cpu speed. So if it's consistently showing the wrong speed (only when overclocked I assume?) it indicates that something is going wrong with the timer when the chipset is stressed (Windows uses the 8254 timer for high resolution timing).

So presumably 3dMark is doing the same thing. That's about as far as I can take it though, I have no idea how you might go about fixing this. Perhaps some more cooling somewhere? Which bit of the chipset contains the timer?

Maybe someone would like to try this out on some mobo tech guy (although given that the Epox one doesn't even know if the PCI bus is locked or not, I don't hold out much hope there :D).

[br@insc@n]

There's a guy whose board glew up at 2 V so be careful.

[br@insc@n]

Originally posted by MrLavender
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
RE OPP's publishing problem: Alex van Kaam, the MBM author, has pointed me to this FAQ (http://www.livewiredev.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2655) which confirms that MBM uses the counter + timer method to measure cpu speed. So if it's consistently showing the wrong speed (only when overclocked I assume?) it indicates that something is going wrong with the timer when the chipset is stressed (Windows uses the 8254 timer for high resolution timing).

So presumably 3dMark is doing the same thing. That's about as far as I can take it though, I have no idea how you might go about fixing this. Perhaps some more cooling somewhere? Which bit of the chipset contains the timer?


Interessting thing ...

What do mean with timer? Do you mean Clock Generator? This must be an ic in combi with a quartz I think (so on the kx7). I have had a look at all ic's on the 8rda, but all seems to have other functions.

[MrLavender]

Originally posted by br@insc@n
Interessting thing ...

What do mean with timer? Do you mean Clock Generator? This must be an ic in combi with a quartz I think (so on the kx7). I have had a look at all ic's on the 8rda, but all seems to have other functions. The 8254 used to be a seperate IC in the original PC's, but nowadays it's part of the chipset since it's such a simple device. Some details here (http://www.intel.com/design/periphrl/technote/7203.htm) from Intel's site, or search Google for "8254 timer" or "8254 PIT".

I don't know enough about mobo hardware to say where it gets the clock signal from (I'm a programmer, not an engineer :D), I know that the input frequency is 1.19318MHz which gives a max timing accuracy of ~838 nanoseconds. This is why it's used for all high resolution timing by the OS, there is no other device in the PC with that sort of accuracy (sigh, the price of backward-compatability).

[br@insc@n]

Ok, but on the KX7 I find an ic just behind the agp slot, it's a Realtek called RTM560. In SoftFSB you can choose this type of ic, so I thought it's the general clock gen

[TodB]

Originally posted by cpulloverclock
237 IN DUAL DDR
2*WINBOND 5NS (ALWAYS)
VMEM 2.9v
VDD 2.22v


You gonna smoke something man, be aware.... :rolleyes:

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by TodB
You gonna smoke something man, be aware.... :rolleyes: :confused: :smileysex

[spaceboy]

Originally posted by SKATAN
ouch

now that would run a killer AMD score :D


SKatan how is your 8RDA working ?

[tweaky]

You'll be looking :confused: sooner rather than later when that board decides to commit suicide. That is putting a lot of strain on the board as a whole and I sure as hell hope you don't plan to keep it there for much longer.

[Nico]

Originally posted by cpulloverclock
237 IN DUAL DDR
2*WINBOND 5NS (ALWAYS)
VMEM 2.9v
VDD 2.22v


Maybe a bit of a vdimm mod is in order, with 3.0 - 3.2 you could go a little easier on the vdd. Maybe even get higher fsb ;)

[RichBa5tard]

Originally posted by cpulloverclock
237 IN DUAL DDR
2*WINBOND 5NS (ALWAYS)
VMEM 2.9v
VDD 2.22v

Heh, shall i write out an invitation to join my 'dead-8rda+' club? :D

Be carefull dude, i blew mine at 2.0V

[STEvil]

holy crap, you have killed just as much stuff as me.. though all the stuff I killed was processors 8-)

[Wolf]

Maybe your voltage regulator was just weak. I think the chipset can handle it's the other components that are a problem.

[RichBa5tard]

Originally posted by STEvil
holy crap, you have killed just as much stuff as me.. though all the stuff I killed was processors 8-)

Heh, their is something about me and vidcards. The only one that got away alive, was a GF1 DDR, and it had to fake it's death! The vidcard worked again when I removed the 80W pelt. :)


@wolf: jup, the chipset didn't die, but the chip next to the voltage regulator burned out.

[STEvil]

Celeron 366 @ 595 2.6v (noooo)
Celeron 500 @ 585 2.1v (doh)
P3 650 @ 910 1.8v (argh)
Celeron 700 @ 1092 1.75v (argh!)
Duron 800 @ 1ghz 1.8v (nuts)
T-Bird 850 @ 1050 1.85v (drat)
T-Bird 1200 @ 1533 1.85v (@#%@#!#%)

And a few others I have forgotten..

/end off topicness 8-)

[RoydRage]

OPP,

Were you ever able to get the 8RDA To run with a higher Vcore...

What was the highest you could go?

Thanks,

RoydRage

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by RoydRage
OPP,

Were you ever able to get the 8RDA To run with a higher Vcore...

What was the highest you could go?

Thanks,

RoydRage

Highest core I could get onto windows with was 2.07V.

I broke the mobo, I'm onto the Asus now:D

OPP

[TodB]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Highest core I could get onto windows with was 2.07V.

I broke the mobo, I'm onto the Asus now:D

OPP

How did ya break it? :eek:

[SKATAN]

Originally posted by RichBa5tard
Heh, shall i write out an invitation to join my 'dead-8rda+' club? :D

Be carefull dude, i blew mine at 2.0V


we cant be sure you blew it because of the 2v vdd

because when one looks at your sig one sees a pattern :D

I know of 8rda+ tha blew , out of the blue with 1.56v (default) non moded vdd




Epox challange OVER :D

Someone start a thread named ASUS challenge :p :p :p :p

[STEvil]

You should take all the northbridges off your dead mobo's and get a chain to hold them... 8-)

[cpulloverclock]

a new screen

2400+@2639MHz in wc
vcore@2.15v
vdd@2.14v
vddr@2.9v
Windows 98
tearing is always here (vmem mod of my ti4200)

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/250.jpg

[Jeff]

Nice MHz... and that's hella high on the Vdd. :D

[Dimmst Of Death]

Hey jeff what mobo do u got? With my 1800+ my multi dont work over 12.5 or under 10.5:confused: On a 8rda.. Thought these were alredy unlocked:mad:


Edit: 1800+ T-Bred of course

[muzz]

I don't think the Epox challenge is over..... just a little break is all.... ain't many boards that can run 3DMark at 230+ FSB.... of course some folks still believe in the dumbed down timings issue with this board........:D

[DoGMaN]

@cpulloverclock - what stepping is that CPU? Thats awesome.

[cpulloverclock]

It's an AIUHB 047
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/252.JPG
WinXP French version
bad perf, it's strange :smileysex
don't understand what's happening
I'll retry at 221.93 7-2-2 cas2 in DUAL DDR
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/36m.JPG

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by muzz
I don't think the Epox challenge is over..... just a little break is all.... ain't many boards that can run 3DMark at 230+ FSB.... of course some folks still believe in the dumbed down timings issue with this board........:D

Muzz, Heres the NF7 running 3d at 11.5 x 233 FSB with dual memory.
I'll be getting a new Epox and doing the mem mod and chipset mod and hope to be able to do the same range.

OPP

[muzz]

I believe the scores will be pretty close myself OPP.
Be looking forward to it mang.:banana:

[taco]

is that NF7 without mods? dont think so, but just checking.

[MrIcee]

That NF7 has XtremeTekwerkz(Vmem), OPP(Vcore) and ICEE(Vdd) volt mods:thumbsup:

Randi:D

[STEvil]

I hate cheaters..

*note - I inverted the colors cause its much easier reading.. and looks cool 8-)

I love the geocities trick 8-)
http://www.geocities.com/scatha_v/futuremark.txt

[muzz]

ICEE as in MrIcee mods........:toast:

Good job Randi.

[Learn]

hi,


the v-ddr MOD work fine :D THX Jeff

timing: aggressive 7,2,2,2 3.1 v



http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/3702.png

[muzz]

Looking good Learn....... still running that board hot I see........:D

[OPPAINTER]

Epox makes it to #2 on the ORB:banana:

I did the v-mem and still I can't get this running dual past 218, bummer.

Whats the best bios?? I need a link.

OPP

[muzz]

Nice going OPP ! I finally did the vdimm mod last night, and i"ve run it at 3.1 with no difference here ( from 2.9 ) dunno what's up with that.
Sucks ya cant run it higher than 218..... I've run mine in testing at 232 so far@5222... but wasn't at max speeds on the cpu........ I was able to publish it though.
If I lived down the street I'd run over and whip it in your prommy and see what it could do.:D

I only run 1.77vdd , and my score was done at 2.9vdimm.

Good Job OPP.

[muzz]

I'm running the c31 bios, thats the one I was able to do the 232. but haven't tried the older ones since doing the slight VDD increase.

http://www.epox.org/main1.shtml#newsitem1041616381,55685,

Thats for the + board.

[muzz]

Rev 1.0 here. 8RDA+

MWAVE - when the boards first hit the states.

[cpulloverclock]

I reply with the vmem mod

not bench yet

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/vmem8rda+.JPG

[cpulloverclock]

now the vbt mod

http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/EPoX/8RDA+/

[cpulloverclock]

the voltage is fixed at 3.2v

[spaceman]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Epox makes it to #2 on the ORB:banana:

I did the v-mem and still I can't get this running dual past 218, bummer.

Whats the best bios?? I need a link.

OPP Congrats, OPPAINTER!!!:cool: :D :cool: It was just a matter of time. ;) My board probly came out of the same batch as muzz's, Rev. 1.0 from mwave, bought in early-mid December. I just need to work up the nerve to try some moddin', vdd at least. :rolleyes:

[hedge]

Congrats OPP,
The funny thing is that while you are kicking trash with your board, my friend's 8rda+ seems to be blowing chunks or something because it doesn't run any faster than his old kt133a board. Who knows?

P.S. This was my first post ever. :banana:

[Learn]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Epox makes it to #2 on the ORB:banana:

I did the v-mem and still I can't get this running dual past 218, bummer.

Whats the best bios?? I need a link.

OPP

Congrats again :toast:


=> muzz, nice board this 8rda+, but it's just the max benchie, i' m not stable... , i' ve a prob in 3D with low fsb

[muzz]

I'm not sure what you mean Learn.

[Learn]

sorry my english is so bad

it's just a bench at 237 fsb, it's not stable,for sure.
i'm not stable in 3D (game , 3d mark , ut2003...) with 215 FSB .
in windows98 i can do prime with 222 FSB, see this: http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/prime95fsb222test1001.png
but i' m not stable in 3D with 215 fsb.

[althes]

Well I am now benching my 8rda non plusv1.1. With a tbred 1800.Using the bios that came with the motherboard 12/16/02 bios.
So far 10*200:D

[FragBuckler]

woohoo! way to go OPP!!

:frag:

thats holicho :p

[Chriviper]

Do you think it would be worth it to buy the 8rda+ instead of the FIC au11 or what ev ....since i saw in one of the forums that the epox 8rda+ was just a relabeled fic au-11???they had the pics to prove it on the post though