OCZ or G.Skill

[rupbert]

Hi guys,

SD 3700+
DFI Lanparty SLI-DR

Currently using Corsair XMSPro CL2 3200 (2x512).

Got my SD sitting at 2.6Ghz (11x237) @ 2.5-3-3-7 2.9v

Would love to get past the 2.7Ghz mark (stable), so I was thinking of upgrading to one of the following:

OCZ 1GB (2 x 512MB) PC4800 Dual Channel Platinum Series EL-DDR CAS2.5 (MY-055-OC)

G.Skill 1GB DDR LA PC4800 (2x512MB) Dual Channel Kit (F1-3200DSU2-1GBLA) (MY-000-GS)

I have 2 questions.

Am I correct in saying only the G.Skill is TCCD? And would either of these give me a successful 2.7Ghz?

Or if anyone could make a better suggestion (no budget), it would be greatly appreciated.

Thx,

rupbert

[BeSaiD]

Gskill are TCCD, but as far as i know, that OCZ are TCC5

[rupbert]

Thanks for the quick reply BeSaiD,

I assume the G.Skill is the better choice then?

[BioPC]

Gskill are TCCD, but as far as i know, that OCZ are TCC5
You can get TCCD from OCZ as well, then should be considered the new OCZ EL DDR PC-4800 Platinum Elite Edition. ;)

[rupbert]

Thx BioPC, can't seem to find many of the Elite Editions though :(

[Eldonko]

Thx BioPC, can't seem to find many of the Elite Editions though :(It is brand new. It will probably be more available soon.

[rupbert]

Thx Elsonko,

Is it the best to go for with my setup then?

[sdkevin]

either one would be best for your setup

[5-Clicks]

i'd go with G.Skill :) been every pleased with my LAs but i'm going 1gb Redline soon so they've gotta go :(

[rupbert]

Any particular reason for the switch 5-Clicks?

[Major]

Either will get you 270x10 for sure, maybe even at 2.5-3-3-7 1t and the G.Skill should get you 300x9 2.5-4-3-7 1t the OCZ at 300mhz is a long shot.

[RyderOCZ]

Either will get you 270x10 for sure, maybe even at 2.5-3-3-7 1t and the G.Skill should get you 300x9 2.5-4-3-7 1t the OCZ at 300mhz is a long shot.Its rated at 300FSB so I don't think its a long shot to reach 300? 2.5-4-3-x might not happen, if that is what you were referring to...but a lot of them will do those timings. :)

[Ugly n Grey]

OCZ has kick A$$ customer service, that always makes up my mind for me........ I could care less about a few Mhz.....if that's even an issue.

[Cpt Twitchy]

G.SKill FR ios my vote if this is money is tight. If not the LE or LA will do well. If you have money to spend get FF. OCZ is good but imo G.skill has a better product for high end ddr atm.

[s7e9h3n]

G.Skill hands down. IIRC, doesn't the OCZ run $300+? If so, they'd be probably more expensive than the FF's - which took a nosedive in price recently. Too bad I didn't wait awhile, then again, I got my pair before they even came out :p:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/848/325validated5su.jpg

[Blue078]

GSkill gets my vote.

[Redrum]

I had problems with my G.Skill and they went back. After reading on their fourms I decided I didn't want to take that chance again so I went OCZ and not looking back now. Trouble free and easy to set up to run stable. I'll play with lower settings after break in but for now I like them. If you buy them from Newegg theres a Mail in Rebate (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227208) Running right now.

[HousERaT]

For whatever reason no one seems to care about advising you to run with a memory divider. You can do that with no performance loss to see how high your cpu will go. Once you do that then you can decide how much you want to spend on memory. Personally, I'd suggest you get some redlines or other good quality UTT memory. Just about all the UTT memory I have will kick the snot out of my GSkills because my memory controller craps out at 298. Running 298fsb with 2.5-3-3-7 timings won't touch any of my UTT running 260 with 2-2-2-5 timings. Just my :2cents:

[s7e9h3n]

For whatever reason no one seems to care about advising you to run with a memory divider. You can do that with no performance loss to see how high your cpu will go. Once you do that then you can decide how much you want to spend on memory. Personally, I'd suggest you get some redlines or other good quality UTT memory. Just about all the UTT memory I have will kick the snot out of my GSkills because my memory controller craps out at 298. Running 298fsb with 2.5-3-3-7 timings won't touch any of my UTT running 260 with 2-2-2-5 timings. Just my :2cents:
Ummmm...running with a divider and running without one does make a difference in performance. Ideally you'd like to run 1:1 @ a high FSB, but different circumstances dictate different solutions. UTT's performance is great for benching, but it requires much more Vdimm and generates much more heat than TCCD. (BTW, Gskill GH is utt also). You're right in the sense that if you're limited to 298fsb max, then you'd run a divider and LLRam for max performance, but most cpu's around here don't crap out that low. I'm not too sure that 260 @ 2-2-2-5 exactly "kicks the snot" ;) outta 298 @ 2.5-3-3-7 and I know that @ 305-310 cl2.5-3-3-7 will pull ahead of your performance.....

[EnergyStaR]

Why not go UTT?

If you burn the vdimm and reach 270 2-2-2-5 1T, you will get faster than most of TCCD...except bandwidth test

[HousERaT]

Ummmm...running with a divider and running without one does make a difference in performance. Ideally you'd like to run 1:1 @ a high FSB, but different circumstances dictate different solutions.

That used to be true back in the days of athlon xps. That no longer holds true as K8 are all running on dividers regardless. There is no 1:1 with K8. If you have any evidence that running a memory divider on a K8 Dual channel system somehow contributes to a loss in performance I'd love to see it.

[rupbert]

You can get TCCD from OCZ as well, then should be considered the new OCZ EL DDR PC-4800 Platinum Elite Edition. ;)

Hi BioPc,

Is the memory in the following link the ones I am looking for?

http://www.chillblast.com/product.php?productid=17051&cat=13&source=froogle

[Eldonko]

I vote OCZ. Yep that's the stuff rupbert.

[5-Clicks]

Any particular reason for the switch 5-Clicks?
yeah, because it's a gig. :p: and i want to try out some high voltage stuff.

[rupbert]

Thank you all for the interesting comments,

I have now become even more confused about the choice.

Criteria:

1. Reach at least 2.7Ghz (2.8Ghz would be a dream) on my SD 3700+
2. Have the tightest timings possible when satisfying criteria #1
3. Use either 1:1, or at worst a 9/10 divider
4. Have as low a voltage on vdimm as possible < 3v
5. Obviously the ram has to be memtest/spi/Prime stable

Price isn't really a concern.

So taking into account the above criteria is their anything that can match or even excede my expections?

thx,

rupbert

[BioPC]

Hi BioPc,

Is the memory in the following link the ones I am looking for?

http://www.chillblast.com/product.php?productid=17051&cat=13&source=froogle

Hi,
Yes, that is for sure the new OCZ TCCD, but we haven't seen their OC levels at all. Sure they can do pretty good, plus you get an excellent customer attention.
My vote goes for OCZ :D , but whatever it is, good luck!

[rupbert]

yeah, because it's a gig. :p:

:slapass:

:D

[Eldonko]

Both EE and LE should hit 270-280Mhz quite easily @ 2.5-3-3 and around 2.8v. The reason I suggest OCZ is because of the best customer service but I am pretty sure you would be happy with either set of RAM.

Thank you all for the interesting comments,

I have now become even more confused about the choice.

Criteria:

1. Reach at least 2.7Ghz (2.8Ghz would be a dream) on my SD 3700+
2. Have the tightest timings possible when satisfying criteria #1
3. Use either 1:1, or at worst a 9/10 divider
4. Have as low a voltage on vdimm as possible < 3v
5. Obviously the ram has to be memtest/spi/Prime stable

Price isn't really a concern.

So taking into account the above criteria is their anything that can match or even excede my expections?

thx,

rupbert

[rupbert]

Thx Eldonko,

I guess anything is better than my Corsair XMSPro 3200 C2 :)

[neologan]

Thank you all for the interesting comments,

I have now become even more confused about the choice.

Criteria:

1. Reach at least 2.7Ghz (2.8Ghz would be a dream) on my SD 3700+

rupbert

Have you actually checked to see if your CPU can do 2.8GHz yet?

[qk4723Deluxe]

:toast: OCZ not bad

http://home.pchome.com.tw/club/qk4723/GeIL.TCCD/GeIL2700MhzKing.jpg

[Eldonko]

qk4723Deluxe, is that EE?

[HousERaT]

Thank you all for the interesting comments,

I have now become even more confused about the choice.

Criteria:

1. Reach at least 2.7Ghz (2.8Ghz would be a dream) on my SD 3700+
2. Have the tightest timings possible when satisfying criteria #1
3. Use either 1:1, or at worst a 9/10 divider
4. Have as low a voltage on vdimm as possible < 3v
5. Obviously the ram has to be memtest/spi/Prime stable

Price isn't really a concern.

So taking into account the above criteria is their anything that can match or even excede my expections?

thx,

rupbert
With that said I'd go with OCZ. The new 4800EE series is TCCD and is supposed to go past 300fsb pretty easily.

[rupbert]

Have you actually checked to see if your CPU can do 2.8GHz yet?

Well I hit 2.7 then turned to testing the memory.

I will lower the divider tonight and push the fsb to 260+...

[rupbert]

qk4723Deluxe

You say OCZ, why it say Geil under the SPD tab?

[Onepagebook]

only 16m :D

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/0516wpmwtake2/0516wpmwrspi16m.jpg

[k00lance]

you can do 3v with new ocz elite edition.

[Bamboo]

Yeah, qk4732deluxe, you are gettin gold......, it is Geil, not Gskill. :rolleyes:

[turtle]

Thank you all for the interesting comments,

I have now become even more confused about the choice.

Criteria:

1. Reach at least 2.7Ghz (2.8Ghz would be a dream) on my SD 3700+
2. Have the tightest timings possible when satisfying criteria #1
3. Use either 1:1, or at worst a 9/10 divider
4. Have as low a voltage on vdimm as possible < 3v
5. Obviously the ram has to be memtest/spi/Prime stable

Price isn't really a concern.

So taking into account the above criteria is their anything that can match or even excede my expections?

thx,

rupbert


Just look no further than TCCD products from ocz and g.skill.

G.skill pc4800le and OCZ 4800 elite (for guarenteed 300mhz stable [5])

They will probably both do at least 300 @ 2.5-4-3-7 (2), which with a 3000+ or high cpu could run 300x9 = 2.7ghz (1). You may even get higher if your mem controller can take it and your cpu can clock that high. You'll prolly be running 1:1 with tccd (3) They usually only need 2.9v max from what I see. (4)

I'd personally pick the OCZ. It's the same price here in the states as the g.skill, plus like others have mentioned, even if the gskill can get a few extra mhz OCZ's customer service is top notch, but that's not to say gskill's isn't, I just know from my own experiance. For instance, I e-mailed them late last night to RMA my funky vx, got an e-mail less than an hour later with an RMA number and absolutely no hassle. I asked for a tccd replacement instead of more utt (as i'm sick of it crapping out) and I have no doubt they'll hook me up. They're just that good...good enough to where I will look no further then buying their stuff in the future.

[rupbert]

Thanks for the recommendation turtle,

I think I have settled for the OCZ Platinum Elite 4800 :)

[k00lance]

since ur spending 300 bucks on elite.
You should compare that with g.skill FF.

[turtle]

Like I said, I don't know about UK prices, as I know they can be different, but here 4800EE is $260 after shipping (from ata or newegg)

http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?&USER_ID=www&cart_id=2431640_24_111_74_220&Item_code=MEDD_OCZT_AP_62

same price as LE:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231006&ATT=Memory+System+Memory&CMP=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r

while FF is $50 more:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231014&ATT=Memory+System+Memory&CMP=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r

Also to take into consideration the ocz 4800EE is OCZ's top-of-the-line speed-bin, while the LE no longer is and isn't going to be using top-end chips, FF, which is more expensive but will prolly be comparable in speed to 4800EE is. Sure it might end up a slight tish faster, but the price differance isn't worth it imho and OCZ just plain rocks because of their CS. Just one more reason to go OCZ if you ask me. Again, no disrespect to the G.skill peeps...they make awesome stuff.

[k00lance]

250 is for the normal platinum edition with tcc5 chips.
real platinum elite is 300 available at only 2 places + shipping.
Consider they cost same, g.skill FF has tighter timing.
we got a winner.

[k00lance]

ata.com/monarch has PEE in stock for 300

[rupbert]

I'm in the UK, cannot order from newegg :(

[turtle]

koolance, you're right, I messed up, and my apologies.

$250 =
OCZ 4800 tcc5 (got um confused, EE didn't come up in search, only this)
G.skill 4400le tccd

$300
G.skill 4800FF
OCZ 4800EE

My mistake. You're right, thanks for correcting me. At that point it comes to brand loyalty. The G.Skill may indeed run at higher at tighter timings, but they'll probably both top out at around the same speed 2.5-4-3-7, which is what most people use, iirc. Others would know better than I though, i've always been a LL ram sorta dude.

[C Stat B]

How about OCZ Gold BH-5? It'll probably do DDR500 2-2-2, and 250x11 is 2.75GHz for you Sandy.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Performance_Series.html