Good god... G.SKILL REP, PLEASE HELP!!!

[pduan87]

http://s95315575.onlinehome.us/ram2.jpg

http://s95315575.onlinehome.us/ram1.jpg

DFI NF4 SLI-DR
Settings are on the T with kakaroto's DDR 600 guide.

I can't ******* believe this... $310+... when do I get RMA/money back? :mad: :mad:

Got it from newegg.

EDIT: This explains why I BSOD'd about 10,000 times when trying to install windows.

[waddupmm]

Looks like my les, those sticks are only rated to run at 600 speeds at 2.5-4-4-8 timings not 2.5-3-3-6 I dont think your eligible for rma since theyll prolly pass at rated specs

[thelostrican]

try as rated 2.5,4,4,8

[Magnj]

If they run 2.5-4-4-8 at DDR600 no RMA...

[xs64]

http://s95315575.onlinehome.us/ram2.jpg

http://s95315575.onlinehome.us/ram1.jpg

DFI NF4 SLI-DR
Settings are on the T with kakaroto's DDR 600 guide.

I can't ******* believe this... $310+... when do I get RMA/money back? :mad: :mad:

Got it from newegg.

EDIT: This explains why I BSOD'd about 10,000 times when trying to install windows.
There is no garranty for this clock with timings 2.5-3-3-7 , it 's just a gamble.
Have u tried 300Mhz 2.5-4-4-8 ?

[pduan87]

You must be kidding me right... 2048 errors in 2:51 on G.skills finest DDR at 2.5-3-3-6 DDR600. You must be kidding me.

[Major]

Use Bios 704-2 modded by Bigtoe (do a search)

Load setup defaults, set Vdimm to 2.7v, only change 2.5-4-4-7 in memory settings, Change Tref to 3072. You should be good to go up to 320mhz ! ;)

[ZX7891]

EDIT: do what major says...

[pduan87]

I got bios 310 right now. Doesn't 704 supposedly kill components? Also... aren't -2 bios's for BH5, UTT?

Also, why is my bandwith so low?

[Magnj]

You must be kidding me right... 2048 errors in 2:51 on G.skills finest DDR at 2.5-3-3-6 DDR600. You must be kidding me.

your a little whiner

[ZX7891]

lol just what i was thinking...

[pduan87]

your a little whiner

Can you please explain this to me? You pay $300 for 1 gig of ram and you see all the g.skill reps hitting 310 2.5-3-3-6, then you plug it in at 300 and you get 2048 errors in 2:51. Don't you think you would be a bit surprised as well?

[waddupmm]

^^ lol

[ZX7891]

Can you please explain this to me? You pay $300 for 1 gig of ram and you see all the g.skill reps hitting 310 2.5-3-3-6, then you plug it in at 300 and you get 2048 errors in 2:51. Don't you think you would be a bit surprised as well?


lol G. Skill reps get hand picked sticks of the best ram... i thought everyone knew this... :confused:

[pduan87]

Whiner eh?

Explain this:

http://s95315575.onlinehome.us/ram3.jpg

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D Try BIOS 510-2FIX - also modded version without the Vcore bug.

Good performance for all kind of RAM. Use orange slots.

:toast:

[brandinb]

your like a child
i dont think you understand that overclocking isnt plug and play pop it in and break some records.
have you dont any work tuning your system for this ram.
the 704-2 will work best for that ram as ive tested it.
do as major says try 2.7-2.8 volts and leave all settings at auto except 2.5-4-4-6 or try 2.5-3-3-6 if your feeling LUCKY key word there lucky as its overclocking ok

and zx7891 gskill reps dont handpick ram but they do only show thier better stuff and for the record my gskill 4400le 1gb kit did 315mhz 2.5-3-3-6 rock stable prime stable games stable memtest stable gold mem stable and im not a gskill rep i just think they are better then most at tuning thier systems

[pduan87]

waddupmm, Magnj, ZX7891...

http://s95315575.onlinehome.us/ram4.jpg

Care to explain that with all of your infinite wisdom?

No, I didn't know that G.skill reps got the best hand picked ones, but I can tell bad ram from good ram.

[n00b 0f l337]

Yeah overclocking is a luck hit and run thing. Do exactly what its rated for, no faster no slower and if it does it. Quit ya :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:in.

[pduan87]

Yeah overclocking is a luck hit and run thing. Do exactly what its rated for, no faster no slower and if it does it. Quit ya :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:in.

Please look at the last two screenshots that I have provided. Then look at the sticker that says what it is rated at.

[5-Clicks]

are you running at SPD voltage?

[brandinb]

most likely your cpu memcontroller is fubared but rma that ram to see for sure.
i would try a different bios and tweak it first otherwise you are just wasting your time and gskills time!!!
ps what bios version. and karakotos guide isnt set in stone as it didnt work well for me i have a different set of settings to use to hit 2.5-3-3-6 at ddr630 very few of his settings actually

[pduan87]

Dude, can't you guys tell bad ram when you see it? Are you guys all being paid by G.skill or something? Seems like you all are valiantly defending the company. Many here have called me whiner, child, etc. yet I provide the proof...

Doesn't anyone see that maybe something is wrong here?

[texuspete00]

COuld still be the mem controller. I've had good luck with my A64's but hell even in my old NF2 days my mem controller could throw those errors up. Then when the board was switched, presto. It could even be so much as a 50/50 chance.

[5-Clicks]

SPD voltage is 2.7-2.9v. try setting it to 2.9v.

i am not defending you nor G.Skill, but please don't just jump to conclusions before running more tests and thouroghly testing what the manufacturer says should work.

[guess2098]

1st i need to say is~~~ r u sure ur cpu can run 300?
cuz old A64 is not 300 stable!!!

2nd! what setting do u use~ i can only see 2.5-4-4-8, 2.5-3-3-6
other are important too

[pduan87]

SPD voltage is 2.7-2.9v. try setting it to 2.9v.

i am not defending you nor G.Skill, but please don't just jump to conclusions before running more tests and thouroghly testing what the manufacturer says should work.

As it states, 2.7. 2.7 @2.5-4-4-8@DDR600 should give me zero errors. I got over 200 at around 22 minutes before I shut it down.

I am using a Venice 3000+ LBBLE 0519 GPMW

[ZX7891]

gskill reps dont handpick ram but they do only show thier better stuff


I really dont see a difference if they hand pick ram to test they will show it off because it does such a great speed..If they only show the best ones they are performing the same tease as hand picking them..




pduan87...do what they say and up the voltage a little bit to

[guess2098]

the super hand pick TCCD, is from GeiL and qk4723Deluxe has two pair!
he hand pick it by himself

[5-Clicks]

2.7-2.9 means that the rated latencies/speeds will work somewhere between those voltages. meaning, it's guaranteed to work at DDR600 2.5-4-4-8 @ 2.9v but 2.7v is feasable...just not on ALL sticks.

[Major]

I've had 8 sets of G.Skill TCCD and all have OC exceptionally !

This is stright out of my settings, USE 704-2 bios modded by bigtoe !

You should only need 2.7v ! 2.8 is the max I've ever had to use to get above 300mhz ;)

In Dram Configuration:

200
Enable
2.5
4 - can try 3 once in windows with A64 tweaker to see if 3 will work
6
3
7
15
2
2
2
3
3072
1
Enabled

-----

Auto
0
Level 5
Level 1
8
Normal
5
256
Disable
16x
7x
Disable (4 burst)

[pduan87]

GREAT!! 2.9v gives me 66 errors in 1:51!! Running at 2.5-4-4-8@DDR600!!

Major, I cannot even install windows. I had the ram running at DDR 400 all auto timings and I would get BSODs with Machine_check_somethingsomethingsomething. I asked my friend wtf was going on, he said he had the same problem and only fixed it by borrowing his friend's ram :rolleyes:

[guess2098]

GREAT!! 2.9v gives me 66 errors in 1:51!! Running at 2.5-4-4-8@DDR600!!

try to lower to 2.73v

and use this setting!

use 702-3

200
Enable
2.5
4 - can try 3 once in windows with A64 tweaker to see if 3 will work
6
3
7
14
2
2
1
2
auto
1
Enabled

-----

Auto
0
Level 7
Level 3
8
Normal
5
16
Enable
16x
7x
Disable (4 burst)

and make sure your CPU can hit 300

[5-Clicks]

i say try the bios Major suggested and if that doesn't work, i personally qualify you for RMA ;) :p:

[brandinb]

major doesnt want you to boot windows he wants you to set those timings in the bios then try memtest dude.

btw try different cpu multipliers to see if it has an effect. and you dont say if you flash to 704-2 which is the best bios imo

as another tip in bios 704-2 setting drive strength to auto works very well for me and most others too but you need to say what timings you are adjusting. and just because the ram is made to run ddr600 dont mean the rest of your system is. and if you are sure your system is and the ram fails just rma it dont cry

[brandinb]

lol and btw your thread is moving fast you should feel lucky there is many gskill users with experience around here hehe

[pduan87]

Ok. It's over. The nail is in the coffin. GG g.skill.

http://s95315575.onlinehome.us/ram5.jpg

http://s95315575.onlinehome.us/ram6.jpg

Do I qualify yet 5-Clicks? ;)

[guess2098]

Ok. It's over. The nail is in the coffin. GG g.skill.

Do I qualify yet 5-Clicks? ;)

i really wanna see your bios setting.
maybe it will help, so you can save the postage

[waddupmm]

550 IS STILL OUT OF SPEC FOR THOSE TIMINGS IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOUR OWN STICKS ARE RATED TO RUN AT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DO QUALIFY FOR AN RMA FOR ERRORING AT 600 2.5-4-4-8. Give the sticks some time to burn in, and post a ss of the other dram settings in the bios

[5-Clicks]

:lol2:

yes sir, i'd say so ;)

just out of part curiosity, what DOES it do? will it do DDR550 at 2.5-4-4-8? or DDR500? will it do DDR600 at 2T?

[pduan87]

i really wanna see your bios setting.
maybe it will help, so you can save the postage

I doubt any combination of BIOS settings can explain this:

http://s95315575.onlinehome.us/ram6.jpg

Oh btw its at 284 errors at 15:15 now.

For the blind and threadcrappers:

That is DDR 550 @ 2.5-3-3-7.

[waddupmm]

LOL want me to get you a tissue so you can dry your eyes abiut being a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty overclocker, you got some bad sticks get over it you gonna slit your wrist cause they dont run at rated timings? You cant exepct ppl to want to help you if you respond with all this flaming, and I was going off neweggs site for the timings it seems theirs an error on their site you little faggot so dont get your pantys in a bunch

[guess2098]

I doubt any combination of BIOS settings can explain this:

Oh btw its at 284 errors at 15:15 now.

For the blind and threadcrappers:

That is DDR 550 @ 2.5-3-3-7.

just like i said~ show me the bios setting~
that's the only thing i can help you~

[5-Clicks]

Give the sticks some time to burn in, and post a ss of the other dram settings in the bios
TCCD doesn't need burning in, bro :slap: ;)

[pduan87]

just like i said~ show me the bios setting~
that's the only thing i can help you~


Please read first post. It clearly states I followed Karakotos ram guide.

...

...

[Major]

@pduan87

Is this a brand new setup? or have you been running this mb b4 the gskill ?

[pduan87]

LOL want me to get you a tissue so you can dry your eyes abiut being a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty overclocker, you got some bad sticks get over it you gonna slit your wrist cause they dont run at rated timings? You cant exepct ppl to want to help you if you respond with all this flaming, and I was going off neweggs site for the timings it seems theirs an error on their site you little faggot so dont get your pantys in a bunch

:tard:

[waddupmm]

Ya this kid got mood swings like a pregnant woman

[pduan87]

@pduan87

Is this a brand new setup? or have you been running this mb b4 the gskill ?

Brand new. Just set it up today and its running open air. Since you are a mod... can you ban waddupmm from this thread?

[waddupmm]

Ban me for defending myself I was trying to help you out and you called me out

[brandinb]

Christ, I never thought there was so many stupid ignorant dumbasses on xtremesystems. Makes me sad... no place on the internet is free from tards anymore.


hmmm your gonna last long here i think

well lets see you didnt follow any advice i gave but you do talk like extremesystems.org is responsible or its members are all gskill reps.

dude if your ram appears bad and you dont want help then rma it dont come crying here like its somebodys fault!!!

btw how old are you?

[TMM]

2.7-2.9 means that the rated latencies/speeds will work somewhere between those voltages. meaning, it's guaranteed to work at DDR600 2.5-4-4-8 @ 2.9v but 2.7v is feasable...just not on ALL sticks.
I would have figured it should work at 2.7v with rated speed, but you can put 2.9 through it without voiding your warrenty?
:confused:

[guess2098]

oh well! send back to newegg for RMA
they will do it for you

[5-Clicks]

no need for bans IMHO. let's just forget and ignore. back to the real deal. no problem.

do you have any other sticks or CPUs to try? week 19's aren't anything to brag about...so it might have a REALLY bad mem controller. my week 16 did... (i'm doubtful that's the problem though since i've never seen a venice/sd not capable of handeling DDR600...much less 550)

EDIT: did G.Skill say that BIOS update might be needed in order for the FF's to be guaranteed to run DDR600 @ 2T?

[pduan87]

5-Clicks, search up 0519 GPMW ;)

No other sticks or CPU.

[Major]

I'm not going to go back and read the entire thread so I'm sorry if you have already answered these questions:

Before trying 300mhz on the ram did you lower your multi to 8x or 9x to make sure that its not your processor ? You may need to bump the Vcore up some even at 9x since that would be 2700mhz.

Make sure that the 4v option jumper is in the default position and NOT on 4v, check your manual to see where it suppose to be.

Using Orange Dimms ?? Also you may want to take the ram out and put them back in the oposite Dimms.

[pduan87]

@Major

1. My multi is @ 7x. Look at the screenshots of the ram @300 and @250
2. 4v is on default.
3. Using orange Dimms.

These are going back to Newegg. I am getting 2 gigs of ram.

[5-Clicks]

5-Clicks, search up 0519 GPMW ;)
i have. but every chip is different you know. ;) :stick: :p:

[pduan87]

i have. but every chip is different you know. ;) :stick: :p:

Hey, lets look at averages :cool: 2.8-2.9 on air sound good? ;)

[brandinb]

@Major

1. My multi is @ 7x. Look at the screenshots of the ram @300 and @250
2. 4v is on default.
3. Using orange Dimms.

These are going back to Newegg. I am getting 2 gigs of ram.

good luck getting 2 gigs of ram error free that takes some WORK and you might have to take some ADVICE on ram timings

[metro.cl]

no reps. of g.skill to help?? really weird, i think you should rma that ram, good luck with the next sticks

[5-Clicks]

Hey, lets look at averages :cool: 2.8-2.9 on air sound good? ;)
well, you know a 0515APAW holds the venice world record, and many people are getting the highest clocks with them, but then Absolute 0 gets 2.7ghz followed by a brick wall. ;)

but anyways, back on topic. i think you should RMA them and get new FF sticks too. but that's your decision... :)

[pduan87]

If I can't get my money back from Newegg, I will RMA them to g.skill. I want try out 2 gigs, saw my friend playing BF2 with 2 gigs, silky smooth.

[formyfaith]

Well, if you need some help you need to show or right down the entire bios settings one by one along with the bios version your using. Reaching HTT 300 is not easy as you might be thinking. Also, personally, you didn't provide enough information, and I can't really tell whether it's your ram, cpu or a mobo problem.

BTW make sure you put the stick with the bigger serial number in slot number 4. I've had a lot of experience with many G.Skill rams, and this usually works 90%.

-- edit --

My FF isn't cherry picked, and ofcourse I'm not related with G.Skill at all.

[nfm]

If you want to complain about g.skill pduan87 find another forum.

[pduan87]

Well, if you need some help you need to show or right down the entire bios settings one by one along with the bios version your using. Reaching HTT 300 is not easy as you might be thinking. Also, personally, you didn't provide enough information, and I can't really tell whether it's your ram, cpu or a mobo problem.

BTW make sure you put the stick with the bigger serial number in slot number 4.

-- edit --

My FF isn't cherry picked, and ofcourse I'm not related with G.Skill at all.

I said I used the exact settings for DDR 600 as Kakaroto.

Here:

Vddr: 2.7v
Tcl: 2.5
Trcd: 3
Tras: 6
Trp: 3
Trc: 9 (12)
Trfc: 14
Trrd: 2
Twr: 2
Twrt: 2
Trwt: 2
Tref: 3072 (200MHz 3.9us)
Twcl: 1

Bank int.: Enable
Skew control: 255 +
Drive strength: 7
Data strength: 2 (4)
Max. Async: 8ns
Read Preamble: 5ns
Idle Cycle: AUTO
Dyn. Counter: Enable
R/W Bypass: 16x
Bypass Max: 7x
32Bit Gran.: Disable

Exact ones, except for the bold ones that were changed to match 2.5-4-4-8 and 2.5-3-3-7.

I have isolated that it is the ram...
Look at the memtest screenshot. It shows the CPU running at 1650mhz (7x275).

[guess2098]

I said I used the exact settings for DDR 600 as Kakaroto.

Here:

Vddr: 2.7v
Tcl: 2.5
Trcd: 3
Tras: 6
Trp: 3
Trc: 9 (12)
Trfc: 14
Trrd: 2
Twr: 2
Twrt: 2
Trwt: 2
Tref: 3072 (200MHz 3.9us)
Twcl: 1

Bank int.: Enable
Skew control: 255 +
Drive strength: 7
Data strength: 2 (4)
Max. Async: 8ns
Read Preamble: 5ns
Idle Cycle: AUTO
Dyn. Counter: Enable
R/W Bypass: 16x
Bypass Max: 7x
32Bit Gran.: Disable

Exact ones, except for the bold ones that were changed to match 2.5-4-4-8 and 2.5-3-3-7.

I have isolated that it is the ram...
Look at the memtest screenshot. It shows the CPU running at 1650mhz (7x275).


use the one i said @ 600 1T
Vddr: 2.7v
Tcl: 2.5
Trcd: 4
Tras: 5
Trp: 3
Trc: 7
Trfc: 14
Trrd: 2
Twr: 2
Twrt: 1
Trwt: 2
Tref: auto
Twcl: 1

Bank int.: Enable
SKew: Auto
Skew control: 0
Drive strength: 7
Data strength: 3
Max. Async: 8ns
Read Preamble: 5ns
Idle Cycle: 16
Dyn. Counter: Enable
R/W Bypass: 16x
Bypass Max: 7x
32Bit Gran.: Disable

try this

[formyfaith]

Could you try some loosened settings first as shown bellow?
Also please tell us your vcore, chipset, ldt voltages, and also your ldt multi.

-- edit --

Try bios version 623-1, 704-1
I personally use the 704-1 version.
Also make sure you put the stick with the bigger serial no in slot number 4.


Vddr: 2.7v ~ 2.9v
Tcl: 2.5
Trcd: 4
Tras: 7
Trp: 4
Trc: 8
Trfc: 14
Trrd: 2
Twr: 2
Twrt: 2
Trwt: 2
Tref: 3072 (200MHz 3.9us)
Twcl: 1

Bank int.: Enable
Skew control: 0
Drive strength: Auto
Data strength: Auto
Max. Async: Auto
Read Preamble: Auto
Idle Cycle: Auto
Dyn. Counter: Enable
R/W Bypass: 16x
Bypass Max: 7x
32Bit Gran.: Disable

[pduan87]

Vcore: default
Chipset: default
LDT voltages: default
LDT multi: 3x

I'm pretty sure if it gives errors at 550@2.5-3-3-7 there is something wrong with the ram. I'm going to sleep, gonna call up newegg tommorow. Night guys and thanks for the help for those who gave it :)

[formyfaith]

Vcore: default
Chipset: default
LDT voltages: default
LDT multi: 3x

I'm pretty sure if it gives errors at 550@2.5-3-3-7 there is something wrong with the ram. I'm going to sleep, gonna call up newegg tommorow. Night guys and thanks for the help for those who gave it :)

Well, if you have some time before sending them back, try increasing the chipset and the LDT voltages, because that's what I did. And you also might be needing more vcore, because with high HTTs with tightened timimgs, the cpu requires a lot more vcore than usual even if your cpu clock is low.

[petervandamned]

@ pduan87

you should email Kakaroto, he gives good advice.
always ready to help members :)

[thelostrican]

Christ, I never thought there was so many stupid ignorant dumbasses on xtremesystems. Makes me sad... no place on the internet is free from tards anymore.
hahahha ok show some respect we are trying to help you, well i am not....good luck(errr not really) i am out of this one, nothing like trying to help somebody that doesnt want the help....

[Dumo]

pduan...Let me test your FFF and I will make it AAA...j/k :)
Try set 2-2-5-2 in bios and hopefully you can install windows.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

hmmm your gonna last long here i think




:D lol........

:toast:

[FUGGER]

Christ, I never thought there was so many stupid ignorant dumbasses on xtremesystems. Makes me sad... no place on the internet is free from tards anymore.

Your only warning.

Please do not disrespect others, outburst like this are frowned upon.

[Kazoo]

someone please clean up that thread.

[pythagoras]

someone please clean up that thread.

The only way to clean up this thread is to delete it.

Regards

John.