Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB ROCKS !! check it out inside

[Major]

Got my Ballistix today, been playing with them for the last 9 hours ! hehe

See sig for rig (server)

Using 704-3 Bios
Everything left at default setting for ram (everything) I have not started tweaking settings yet.
2.7v + .03v
X2 @ 280x10 1.7v water cooled with Exos2

Here are screen shots of BIOS and Memtest86

sorry but I had the shakes with the camera ! lol

[Major]

Here are some screenies of sandra, A64 tweaker, and CPUZ

I'll have some PI in a few minutes

[Crazykooter]

Nice. I wish I had the money for those right now. 1 gig just doesnt cut it for gaming anymore. I might end up going the 4x512 of the ballistix 4000 even tho I lose 1t.

[nugzo]

OMG Slow down!!!! I don't wanna lose the lead

[Major]

Ok here is a 2x Pi 4meg

some notes on this memory:

Very picky about voltages, doesn't like high volts. Mine went all the way to 270mhz with only 2.6v and then bumped to 2.7 up to 290mhz and too much will cause instablity.

Altho its memtest stable all the way to 290mhz I can only get 280mhz stable so far in windows. I'm open to suggestions ! lol

704-3 bios seems to be a good fit, I tried 704-2 and 704-1 also.

Be sure to put your strongest stick in the dimm furthest from the cpu, with only 2 sticks just run the HTT up and test with memtest until you get errors then switch the sticks in the dimm and test to see if you got improvement.
This is for any memory ;)

I have no idea what drive strenght I'm using since its on auto, if anyone has played around with the drive strengths I'd love to here your results.

I'm about out of play time tonight so not sure I'll get to tweak the settings anymore. But I'm open for ideas about timmings and tweaks.

Major

Edit: My wife is calling me upstairs ! :slap: I'm going to leave Pi 32 running and should be back to post in....oh......30mins ! :p:

[nugzo]

Isn't there a voltage bug with that bios? i heard bad things.
Great Numbers btw!

[Major]

Isn't there a voltage bug with that bios? i heard bad things.
Great Numbers btw!

Yes but only using 123% and above special vid control

[nugzo]

Have you ran a 32m Super Pi yet?

[nugzo]

Edit: My wife is calling me upstairs ! :slap: I'm going to leave Pi 32 running and should be back to post in....oh......30mins ! :p:

Roger That.. Maybe a lil burn in time will help. My max is 277 32m and prime stable. Havent found drive strength to make much difference. Try 2048 tref.

Whats the actual prob with the 704 bios?

[5-Clicks]

290 stable @ 3-3-3-8 :clap: :clap:

i was looking at getting a gig of Tracer, but i'm still not sure. i think i'll still go with the Redline. the Tracer's black heatspreaders with the blue ground lights and LEDs look so sweet!

[THunDA]

Nice results.. :)

[EnJoY]

Get me that super_pi! :D

[nugzo]

Get me that super_pi! :D


Shhhh

[Major]

Well I'm having problems getting 2 instances of Pi32 to pass, One core runs fine the other craps out pretty quick. I've tried several different settings but one core just doesn't want to work. IMO with 2 gig the processor may not OC as high.

I'm running Pi32 right now and should be finished in another 10mins (one isntance)

[Major]

Whats the actual prob with the 704 bios?

If you change the special voltage vid % and the voltage at the same time the bios will apply the old voltge with the new % control. Thats what I understand according to bigtoe.

for example if you using 1.4v special vid with 1.23% and change to 1.3v and 1.26% it will actually apply 1.4v and 1.26%. I hope that makes sense. It's safe using the lower special vid % like 1.13% and 1.10%.

I wouldn't recondmend using it IF you have to use the higher vid %

[nugzo]

ok thanks....32m yet?

[Major]

Not yet man ! lol

I've changed some setting trying to get both cores to work at 2.8ghz, I'll post some stuff up in a few ;)

[bigecb]

Nice!!! I'm not feeling so guilty anymore about ordering these same sticks from NewEgg earlier today... c'mon FedEx get here for the weekend!

Thanks for all the work/testing Major and nugzo!

[Major]

Most of the testing and work credit goes to nugzo ! :toast:

I just read his posts ! :D

I've given up for tonight on getting Pi32 to pass :( I tried every thing I could and I just don't think its going to happen at 280mhz. I'm thinking it may be the limit of the memory controller and not the memory. I'm going to wait and see what happens with DriveEuro and his sticks. he's testing them right now with an SD.

I've changed gears for tonight and have gone back to OCing my X2.

Running for the moment at 10x286 with 183 divider giving me 260 on the memory.

I'll try to play with getting 280mhz+ going tomorrow. It's pretty close, just not quite there. ;)

[nugzo]

Dont be to concerned about high HTT. Ive found that 260*11 (2860) and 286*10 (2860) perform the same. The 11 multi i could get 100% stable. The 10 i could not.

[EnJoY]

Just give us a 32m at 9x multi lol...you should always test ram at a 7/8x multi anyhow.

[Major]

Just give us a 32m at 9x multi lol...you should always test ram at a 7/8x multi anyhow.

I will get ya a 32m tomorrow, just burned out on OCing the WHOLE day ! lol

[fareastgq]

A64 tweaker can tell what what all your auto timings/settings are major.

[Shadowmage]

Damn that's nice!

Looks like a good choice for my next upgrade ;)

[nugzo]

Here's 285 stable




http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/4998/2857ea.th.jpg (http://img314.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2857ea.jpg)

[EnJoY]

So much for 2.6v eh? Get me a cpu-z.

[DriveEuro]

I'm currently running the same as Major is. Same ram. 8-3-3-3-1T at 280mhz with just 2.6v. Memtest stable and F@H stable so far. I'm worn out and will be going to bed in a few. I'll let F@H run all night and hope that works out well. :D

[Major]

I'm going to give it another try later this afternoon. I think I may revisit some other BIOS versions too.

If anyone has any experience with this ram and tref, drive strength, bios revisions, voltages, etc. please chime in with some info ;)

[DriveEuro]

Yeah, 280mhz wasn't stable in F@H. So I reverted back to 275mhz. I'll try prime95 a little later and superpi. I have a lot to do other than this today so I may not be able to spend much time on it.

On my SLI-DR it is automatically setting 3120 as my TREF. I read a few other people in the 2GB database have been running the same too.

What are you running for TREF Major? I've just been running mine at 3120.

[nugzo]

I'm going to give it another try later this afternoon. I think I may revisit some other BIOS versions too.

Ive tried every one of them. the 704-3 seems to be the best for me

[EnJoY]

Major and DriveEuro, give me super-pi's and cpu-z! :D

[Aleman]

I´d say, play with tREF :).

[xgman]

Do you guys think removing the spreader and using a fan over the ram in any case, would be better off? Sometimes the spreaders just trap the heat more than anything else.

[nugzo]

Do you guys think removing the spreader and using a fan over the ram in any case, would be better off? Sometimes the spreaders just trap the heat more than anything else.


I am using active coooling 2x80mm fans. Memory is only slightly warm to touch at 285

[DriveEuro]

Major and DriveEuro, give me super-pi's and cpu-z! :D
I'm having problems getting it stable at 275 for superpi... Tweaking now..

EDIT: Running 275mhz and messed with A64 Tweaker and its humming along for about 9 minutes now. Hope it passes...

[vapb400]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146029
is that the ram? if not, would you mind posting a link to it?

[P_1]

I remember there was one post on futuremark forums where some guy got like 280 3-2-2-x on ballistix 2GB

[DriveEuro]

I remember there was one post on futuremark forums where some guy got like 280 3-2-2-x on ballistix 2GB
Proof? I wanna see that :cool:

[Major]

yea that was NinjaActionJeans that posted on futuremark, but the post is no longer there. He had them stable at somewhere over 280mhz.

@DriveEuro I'm just using Auto for drive strengths and 3120 for Tref. I've not tried to play with Tref much since 3120 seems to work fine. But I would like to know what drive strength it's defaulting too.

I'm at the office right now but will be heading home after lunch to play :D

I'm going to drop the multi down to 9x and see if I can get a PI32 to pass.

I had pretty good success with the 704-2 bios too and may flash back to play with it some.

Major

[DriveEuro]

http://home.comcast.net/~driveeuro/275mhz_stable.JPG

That's what I was able to do. Accidently hit the OK button when SuperPI was finished though. :(

[xgman]

What happens at 2.5-3-3?

[xgman]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146029
is that the ram? if not, would you mind posting a link to it?

These are the Tracer version which now Crucial says are marked "discontinuing", but they still show the non tracer version as current but still no stock.

[DriveEuro]

What happens at 2.5-3-3?
I don't think these sticks will run CL 2.5. I saw someone mention that before i nthe 2gb database. He tried CL 2.5 and no matter what it wouldn't run stable I think...

[xgman]

What is a good pagefile size with 2GB ram?

[DriveEuro]

Rule of thumb is 1.5x - 2.0x the size of your RAM. So 2gb of ram would be 3gb - 4gb.

[georgesod]

What is a good pagefile size with 2GB ram?

No pagefile for 2 giga. It runs better

[DriveEuro]

No pagefile for 2 giga. It runs better
True... BUT if you're using a large amount of that ram and your go to game... Your system might be starved of ram beacause it cannot dump less important things into the virtual memory

[J-Mag]

So I have seen TONS of shots here, but not a one is using 183,166,150,133 dividers...

Can you guys get the dividers to work with this memory?

I have some of the Crucial Value 1GB Micron based sticks and they seem to tank on me with dividers, although I cant tell if it is the CPU + Mem which is givin me probs.

[muaddib]

So I guess THIS IS the best 1x1GB RAM toady? Average results are amazing (270mhz +++).

[nugzo]

So I have seen TONS of shots here, but not a one is using 183,166,150,133 dividers...

Can you guys get the dividers to work with this memory?

I have some of the Crucial Value 1GB Micron based sticks and they seem to tank on me with dividers, although I cant tell if it is the CPU + Mem which is givin me probs.

dividers work

[ozzimark]

i find that i only have issues with dividers on my dfi with more than one stick in :slapass:

definitly a board issue

[Major]

Ok, I have a feeling that its a heat related issue with my sticks so I removed the heatspreaders :slapass:

I'll post back the results in a few

[DriveEuro]

Ok, I have a feeling that its a heat related issue with my sticks so I removed the heatspreaders :slapass:

I'll post back the results in a few
I agree with you. These sticks run REALLY hot with just 2.7v. I have a 92mm fan running atbou 2500rpm over the ram and they are still warm. Much warmer than my OCZ VX was at 3.6v with just a slow 80mm fan.

[nugzo]

Ok, I have a feeling that its a heat related issue with my sticks so I removed the heatspreaders :slapass:

I'll post back the results in a few

Cable tie a few 80mm fans together and slap em in there. :banana: Mine r slightly warm, by no means Hot.

[Major]

I have an 60mm AMD hs fan over them ;) and a 40mm one over the power mosfets

[ozzimark]

These sticks run REALLY hot with just 2.7v
i don't have ballistix, but crucial value. same stuff, but lower bin. my stick also gets quite hot, esp around 3v :slapass:

[Unrealcpu]

I have an 60mm AMD hs fan over them ;) and a 40mm one over the power mosfets


Major

I just picked up 2 sticks at newegg, did i get the right stuff? Whats the difference between the black and gold sticks? Also do these have LEDs?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?image=20-146-029-01.jpg&CurImage=20-146-029-01.jpg&Description=crucial%20Ballistix%201GB%20184-Pin%20DDR%20SDRAM%20DDR%20500%20(PC%204000)%20%20U nbuffered%20System%20Memory%20Model%20BL12864L503% 20-%20Retail

[Major]

The Tracer have led's and have the black heatspreader, the gold heatspreader are the regular Ballistix.

The Tracer's seem to OC alittle better, not sure if they have a different binning process or not.



Major

I just picked up 2 sticks at newegg, did i get the right stuff? Whats the difference between the black and gold sticks? Also do these have LEDs?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?image=20-146-029-01.jpg&CurImage=20-146-029-01.jpg&Description=crucial%20Ballistix%201GB%20184-Pin%20DDR%20SDRAM%20DDR%20500%20(PC%204000)%20%20U nbuffered%20System%20Memory%20Model%20BL12864L503% 20-%20Retail

[xgman]

L503 is the Tracer version and I don't think thise pics are necessarily right. Z503 is the non tracer (LED) version. Same underneath the spreader, but Crucial told me the L503 is marked for discontinuing. Don't know why.

[xgman]

Just asked Crucial about the L503 and Z503 again and they said they are both out of production now and a replacement part number will be out shorthly for a new set of tracers and regular 2x1gb with updated timings. Interseting.. . .. I think I'll wait and get the new part or ckeck out the new ocz kits.

[DriveEuro]

Major

I just picked up 2 sticks at newegg, did i get the right stuff? Whats the difference between the black and gold sticks? Also do these have LEDs?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?image=20-146-029-01.jpg&CurImage=20-146-029-01.jpg&Description=crucial%20Ballistix%201GB%20184-Pin%20DDR%20SDRAM%20DDR%20500%20(PC%204000)%20%20U nbuffered%20System%20Memory%20Model%20BL12864L503% 20-%20Retail
Also, the regular ballistix takes more volts to OC.

[SnipingWaste]

Micron memory will heatup 2.7V and up. You can get higher speeds with 3.0V and up but you will need ram sinks and not heat spreaders with a good fan. Micon will give errors if the chips get above 60C to 65C so the key is to up the voltage and keep the temps under 60C.

This is what I did to keep the temps down on my 512 Micon -5B revC using 3.3V.
I can go to the max on my mobo at 268HTT and run 250HTT 2.5,2,2,5,T1.
http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL601/2766865/5546621/105447513.jpg

[Aleman]

Rule of thumb is 1.5x - 2.0x the size of your RAM. So 2gb of ram would be 3gb - 4gb.
Not true, the more Ram you have the less pagefile you need!!!.

[Unrealcpu]

well i guess i will be getting the tracer version.

I dont care about if something comes out that is better. I will running this in my vapochill hehehe

i will sell them in 3 months

[STickGuy]

Picked up my stick last week and just found this website. I will post what i have later. But the Memtest at 289@2.9v but i can not ran SuperPi. Have to work on that.

[Major]

But the Memtest at 289@2.9v but i can not ran SuperPi. Have to work on that.

That sounds familure ! :D

same here, can pass memtest86 up to 290+ without any errors but get random errors in windows and PI32 not stable with anything over 270mhz.

[SnipingWaste]

That sounds familure ! :D

same here, can pass memtest86 up to 290+ without any errors but get random errors in windows and PI32 not stable with anything over 270mhz.

I realy think its a heat problem. The test in windows your running realy heat up the mem chips and I beat the chips are hitting 65C to 70C.

[Markus_d]

nice OC there...

but how does these sticks do at tighter timings ?

*edit* i saw now in another tread that they are hard to tighten up...

[Major]

NOW WE ARE TALKING !!!! :toast:

[brandinb]

wow major those are performing just as good or better then most tccd now!!!!!!!

amazing!!

[Major]

I've started playing with 10x multi again since thats where my max OC will happen at 280mhz to 285mhz.

Here is 280mhz x10 and I'll tweak from there.

Edit: I didn't notice A64 tweaker opening messed up, I posted a pic of actual A64 settings

[nugzo]

I've started playing with 10x multi again since thats where my max OC will happen at 280mhz to 285mhz.

I wonder if database is alphabetical or what........ i H8 u lol
No seriously congrats! What did u do different?

[nugzo]

damn .5 i'll be back!

[BRiT]

I wonder if database is alphabetical or what........ i H8 u lol
No seriously congrats! What did u do different?

If that's the case, I best get to building my A64 system ... ;)

[Puni Puni Poemy]

I am intrested in how these do with Tighter Timings too. I know I wont be able to get my Chip to OC that high, So I will want to use tighter timings.

What is the Highest Stable Speed you can reach at 2-2-2-1T?

[nugzo]

I am intrested in how these do with Tighter Timings too. I know I wont be able to get my Chip to OC that high, So I will want to use tighter timings.

What is the Highest Stable Speed you can reach at 2-2-2-1T?


this Crucial will not do 2-2-2

[Nettwerk]

Damn Crucial Tracer 2gb sticks sold out :(

[Unrealcpu]

Damn Crucial Tracer 2gb sticks sold out :(


yeah i bought them

i have 2 gbs of crucial balistix coming to me on monday from newegg. I guess i bought them all up :p:

[SnipingWaste]

Found a place that has Crucial Ballistix 1 gb PC4000.
https://mmdus.com/detail.asp?cd=319

[Nettwerk]

Found a place that has Crucial Ballistix 1 gb PC4000.
https://mmdus.com/detail.asp?cd=319


Ahh thanks dude, they have both kit versions too.. I got the 1gigx2 tracers :D

[nugzo]

Where did u see the kits? i see single tracer 1gb for 199

[SnipingWaste]

Where did u see the kits? i see single tracer 1gb for 199
Check the whole site.
https://mmdus.com/search.asp?cat=Memory&dt=a

[nugzo]

I see em $399. I think i paid 335 from newegg. Lets hope that new stuff will be as good or better. Still waiting on any comment from OCZ about the cas 2.5 2x1024 ddr500 stuff. Is that still in the works?

[brandinb]

cmon ocz chime in on your new memory were all very interested!!

[Major]

In the next few months there will be a ton of 1gig sticks available capable of high FSB. Tight timmings may take longer :(

With DDR being on the way out, not sure what kind of resources manufatures are going to devote to developing new chips though.

[PhateX1337]

Lookin nice :) Got 4x PC4000VX right now but thinkin of sellin it and gettin the 2GB of Ballistix...and these results are making me want to do that even more :D

[DriveEuro]

Depending on the OC you have... your results might be just as good if not better than ours. Your downside is having to run 2T. Ours is 8-3-3-3.... I bet your sticks run just as well as ours.

[urbanfox]

is the average OC on these tracer's 3-3-3-8 260+?

[Gogeta]

I'm still in the very early testing stages of mine, but they hit the ceiling of my Winnie's mem controller (it sucks though, ~256MHz.) I'll try them on an iced out 4000+ SD when the new ati-driven DFI board hits retail.

[Unrealcpu]

Depending on the OC you have... your results might be just as good if not better than ours. Your downside is having to run 2T. Ours is 8-3-3-3.... I bet your sticks run just as well as ours.


i doubt that

I ran 4 sticks of gskill gh at 2T and i will be testing 2 gb at 1T will be alot faster even at cas 3

[DriveEuro]

is the average OC on these tracer's 3-3-3-8 260+?
Between 260-275mhz. I think the average is more like 270. I can bench superpi at 275mhz on mine. But they start flaking out in games due to the extra heat from the vid card in the case. I have to run mine day to day at 270mhz with 2.6v. Not bad ;)

[Nettwerk]

I ordered from MMDUS.com and they said the ballistix and tracer 2gig kits is not in stock and has been discontinued and going to be replaced by the new version and they will have them tomorrow :)

1st email:
thanks for placing order with us. part# BL2KIT12864L503 is discontinued by micron and replaced by BL2KIT12864Z503 blah blah..

2nd email:
i have a good news.
the replacement memory BL2KIT12864Z503
CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR 2GB KIT (1GBx2Pcs) PC4000 3-4-4-8 UNBUFFERED Non-ECC 500Mhz 2.8V 128Meg x 64. ORIGINAL MICRON/ CRUCIAL MEMORY. LIFETIME WARRANTY is being shipped to us by micron tomorrow and we will be able to get that out to you day after.



:banana: :banana:

[nugzo]

I ordered from MMDUS.com and they said the ballistix and tracer 2gig kits is not in stock and has been discontinued and going to be replaced by the new version and they will have them tomorrow :)

1st email:
thanks for placing order with us. part# BL2KIT12864L503 is discontinued by micron and replaced by BL2KIT12864Z503 blah blah..

2nd email:
i have a good news.
the replacement memory BL2KIT12864Z503
CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR 2GB KIT (1GBx2Pcs) PC4000 3-4-4-8 UNBUFFERED Non-ECC 500Mhz 2.8V 128Meg x 64. ORIGINAL MICRON/ CRUCIAL MEMORY. LIFETIME WARRANTY is being shipped to us by micron tomorrow and we will be able to get that out to you day after.



:banana: :banana:

Cool. Please Keep us informed. We all want to know what this new ballistix is gonna do. /me prays for 2.5

[deathstar13]

crucial now has the 1gb non tracers in stock, and also the 2gb kits.
tracers are MIA atm.
i have a week before i place any orders so hopefully i can see how these batches turn out.

[robberbaron]

this Crucial will not do 2-2-2

Oh. I guess that's why my crucial ballstix 1 gig sticks are stable at DDR430 2-2-2 and DDR480 at 2.5-2-2. Right.

[enzoR]

I ordered from MMDUS.com and they said the ballistix and tracer 2gig kits is not in stock and has been discontinued and going to be replaced by the new version and they will have them tomorrow :)

1st email:
thanks for placing order with us. part# BL2KIT12864L503 is discontinued by micron and replaced by BL2KIT12864Z503 blah blah..

2nd email:
i have a good news.
the replacement memory BL2KIT12864Z503
CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR 2GB KIT (1GBx2Pcs) PC4000 3-4-4-8 UNBUFFERED Non-ECC 500Mhz 2.8V 128Meg x 64. ORIGINAL MICRON/ CRUCIAL MEMORY. LIFETIME WARRANTY is being shipped to us by micron tomorrow and we will be able to get that out to you day after.



:banana: :banana:

Let us know. You'll be the first to be trying out these new chips :) :toast:

[Nettwerk]

crucial now has the 1gb non tracers in stock, and also the 2gb kits.
tracers are MIA atm.
i have a week before i place any orders so hopefully i can see how these batches turn out.


They are not making the Tracer series for 2gb kits anymore :(

I wrote them back asking if the new kit he was sending was going to be tracer version with leds and got this response:

thanks for responding.
1. it is a newer version. but as you can see it is the same spec.
2. no tracer series with LED in pc4000. tracer series pushed up to DDR2.
they are not making pc4000 ballistix tracer with LED beyond the size of
512mb (1gb kit) and that too when they are gone, they are gone, being older
version. means they are not making 2gb kit tracer series with LED. however
they are making it in DDR2.

So I guess if you have tracers and have to rma them they will send you non tracers heh.

[TMM]

Oh. I guess that's why my crucial ballstix 1 gig sticks are stable at DDR430 2-2-2 and DDR480 at 2.5-2-2. Right.
? He was simply stating that HIS sticks won't do 2-2-2. Yours are obviously/probably different chips ;)

[nugzo]

Oh. I guess that's why my crucial ballstix 1 gig sticks are stable at DDR430 2-2-2 and DDR480 at 2.5-2-2. Right.


Lets see some screenshots to prove it

[Major]

Oh. I guess that's why my crucial ballstix 1 gig sticks are stable at DDR430 2-2-2 and DDR480 at 2.5-2-2. Right.

Waiting anxiously for A64 tweaker, Pi 32 (Pi 1meg even !), CPUz, and Sandra screen shoots. :rolleyes:

[enzoR]

major are you unable to run 2-2-2???
cuz IIRC OCZ EB could run 2-2-2 at ddr400

[Major]

I've only tried cas 2.5 and its a no boot situation at 250mhz, to be honest I've not tried anything at 200mhz so it may work.

[nugzo]

I have booted at cas 2.5 at 200. I think i maxed at 210ish.

[texuspete00]

Like EB and such the idea was 2.5-2-2 might work as well as 3-2-2. But not 2-2-2. hence some skepticism by our friends here. I'm thinking that's what they're thinking, excuse me for talking for other people.

[robberbaron]

I have booted at cas 2.5 at 200. I think i maxed at 210ish.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=28802

This is memtest stable.

My best 3-3-3 is this
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=27438

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=25921
This is memtest stable as well. I'm superpi 32m'ing right as we speek on DDR430.

edit: interesting. DDR430 is memtest stable with 2-2-2 but not Pi stable, it seems. I need to mess around with the timings more. It's also BSOD'ing, which is also strange since I've been able to game just fine with that speed until now (i just played at a lan party and loaned a stick to a friend so that he could actually play some of the games.) Anywho, I'll do what I can to back up my statements, haha.

[nugzo]

Anywho, I'll do what I can to back up my statements, haha.

:D Please do. I want and hope you can :toast: ! That would give me a little hope :slobber: . I can boot to windows and run games at a bunch of different timings, but i get the BSOD and cant run super pi or prime 95 at sub 3 timings. I'd much rather lose a little speed and run em at cas 3 for the stability. BSOD truly sucks :(

[DriveEuro]

i doubt that

I ran 4 sticks of gskill gh at 2T and i will be testing 2 gb at 1T will be alot faster even at cas 3
Yeah, I realised this earlier today when I saw the thread by dnottis and his redline at 250mhz with 5-2-2-2 2T.

[robberbaron]

:D Please do. I want and hope you can :toast: ! That would give me a little hope :slobber: . I can boot to windows and run games at a bunch of different timings, but i get the BSOD and cant run super pi or prime 95 at sub 3 timings. I'd much rather lose a little speed and run em at cas 3 for the stability. BSOD truly sucks :(


Here's DDR420 2-2-2.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3037/ddr4207ti.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddr4207ti.jpg)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=29249

[Major]

Ok after extensive playing with various bios revions, 704-1 seems the most stable for this memory (for me) and the X2. See my sig

Running at 280mhz 10x with EVERYTHING in memory settings on "Optomised Defaults" execpt for setting memory speed from "Normal" to "Fast". Left everything else at defaults including the Tref of 3120. Memory is at 2.7v and 3-3-3-8 1T. This is PI32 stable and Prime stable for me. I'm at work right now and will be at my other house tonight but will post some screen shots on Friday.

Edit: Also for those you you try these sticks out, when you change your voltage from 2.7v to 2.8v I've noticed that the Data Drive Strength changes from Normal to Weak when left on Auto. Someone really need to play with the Drive Strenghts to find out optimal settings. I have found that the weak strenghts are causing errors with my sticks when I increase the Vdimm. I'm confident that with the right Data and Dram drive strenghts that most of the issues of OCing these sticks would go away and we might even see someone hit 300mhz ;)

[Mr. Urt]

I'm curious as to where you people bought this ram from. The only place I've seen it available was direct from crucial, and I was just wondering if there was some place that I could get a better deal.

[Major]

I bought mine from Newegg, but the Tracers are now discontinued so not sure if they will have anymore in stock.

edit: the Egg seems to have them in stock

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=Go&DEPA=0&type=&description=ballistix&Category=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

[nugzo]

I bought mine from Newegg, but the Tracers are now discontinued so not sure if they will have anymore in stock.

edit: the Egg seems to have them in stock

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=Go&DEPA=0&type=&description=ballistix&Category=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0




I only see ddr2 1GB at that link

[fareastgq]

no more 1 gig sticks :( I was about to buy some since it is the best sticks

[Nettwerk]

MMDUS.com has the new version mine shipped today

[Shemp Howard]

I was dissapointed that I can't get the 1GB Tracer sticks any more. Looks like I'll have to settle for the plain Ballistix.

[Nettwerk]

Shot an email off to crucial 2 days ago asking essentially: "wtf no more tracers?"

Got this:

Hello,
___

Thank you for you interest in Crucial Technology. The current ETA we have for part#BL2KIT12864L503 is the end of August. Please keep checking back with us we are currently working to shorten this time frame.

Please contact our customer service or sales department if you have any questions. At Crucial, we are committed to providing high-quality products and reliable service and support.

___

End of August is to long for me

[Shemp Howard]

funny you should mention that because I chatted with an online representative from Crucial and he told me that he had no idea when the Tracers will be back.

[Circaflex]

Sweet stuff you got there, with 2gbs also that is quite a feet these days isnt it?

[Orker]

Is this the exact same memory ? ie 5B D
http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=2156

[Major]

Is this the exact same memory ? ie 5B D
http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=2156

Thats it ;)

[eclypse]

If anyone still wants some Tracers.. Newegg has them in stock again.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146029

Wish i had the dough to buy another set. :(

[Mastercyclone]

Hey Guys thought I post my Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4GB Kit No: BL2KIT12864L503.000 Part No: BL2KIT12864L503 (LED) that Rocks :up: I got thes memory at newegg 4 days ago. I didn't think it would do the DDR500. I was crossing my finger hopeing it would run off of DDR500 Bios configuration and it did.My old OCZ PC 4200 EL 2.5 4-4-7 2.7V 4x 512MB = 2GB wouldn't do DDR 500 in Bios from doing stock speed CPU and my CPU-Z would show up 133 mhz dual channel ram speed everytime i try every timing setting for that ram.

Here My Motherboard BIOS Configuration from Gigabyte GA-K8N Pro-SLi F9 Bios that support DDR500! Thanks to Crucial Ballistix Tracer rated 5.1 score in Vista 64bit Ultimate

HT Frequency Ratio (5X)
CPU Frequency (200)
K8 CPU Clock Ratio (X12)
Current DDR speed 500
DDR Clock/Timing Mode (2/2.5) = DDR 500 < I think this is a memory divider
DDR Speed 500
DDR timing (Manual)
CAS# latency (Tcl) (3)
Min RAS# active time (Tras) (10T)
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) (4T)
Row Precharge time (Trp) (4T)
Row to Row delay (Trrd) (4T)
Row cycle time (Trc) (10T)
Row Refresh cycle time (Trfc) (11T)
Read-to-Write time (Trwt) (4T)
Write Recovery time (Twrt) (3 Bus Clock)
Write-to-Read delay (Twrd) (2 Bus Clock)
Refresh Rate (Tref) (200 MHZ, 3.9us)
Read Percharge value (6ns)
Async latency value (7ns)
DDR voltage control (Normal)

DRAM Configuration

1T/2T DRAM Timing (2T) < Command Rate< it won't do 1T in all 4 sticks, 2 GB stick will do it. All 4 GB kit will go 2T
H/W MEM Remap (4GB Ram Supp) (Enabled) < force system memory to read at 4GB.

I haven't tested on memtest86 yet didn't have enough time it seam stable and fast. Perrty warm while touching it(make sure you guys hold on to the case while touching your side of the memory sticks heatstinks ground yourself good).Get hotter if i trun the voltage contorl to (+0.1) = 2.6V (+0.2)=2.7 i don't have 2.8 on Bios (+0.3) but i left it (Normal) setting i was alitle scared from reading all the reviews on newegg about the voltage. :eek: and going back touching it it was hott!at a higher voltage setting that it almost hurt my finger.but it warm at stock Normal 2.5V i think it 2.5V I'm not sure if that right about voltage contorl is there any software that montior or read voltage setting from memory rams from on your OS???

Here my CPU-Z screen shots

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[Riska]

It is a 2year old thread you are posting in do you now that?

[Lumb3Rj4ck]

A good friend of mine is running 4 1 gig sticks of balistics tracer and has said very good things about the memory

[Mastercyclone]

yeah I know I thought I post and let people know they are still around working very good.they may have change the HS over the yrs.I got this memory not long ago for my old setup and I have to say it still able to game.lol


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