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One_Hertz
07-18-2005, 05:46 PM
I pmed chilly and his answers were not very...... fulfilling so I decided to make a new thread, since I'll have the money for it in 9 days :D

1) Is the basic unit all I will need or will I need to buy something extra?
2) Does the basic unit include the cool looking case for it?
3) About the dimentions of it, will I be able to put a hole in my case and mount the case ontop of the kit with the whole pc's weight ontop of it so it'll be a one piece system which would be much easier to carry to lans?
4) What temps should I expect (approximately) on my 3800 venice at 3.2ghz@1.725volts
5) How does it get powered? Will I have to switch it on every time I turn on my pc? Does it feed into my psu?
6) Can it easily be used 24/7?
7) Most importantly... Is it plug and play because I am a completely phase change noob and will not be able to put many things together :slap:

Hope some owners can answer my noobish questions.

Golden_Eagle
07-18-2005, 06:26 PM
5) & 6)
You nedd to ask chilly1 for a controller if you want it to be automatic.

BB mods's
07-18-2005, 06:30 PM
Yes it can be ran 24/7

urbanfox
07-18-2005, 10:41 PM
3) About the dimentions of it, will I be able to put a hole in my case and mount the case ontop of the kit with the whole pc's weight ontop of it so it'll be a one piece system which would be much easier to carry to lans?
5) How does it get powered? Will I have to switch it on every time I turn on my pc? Does it feed into my psu?


Yes.

As far as I know it's a straight power cord plug in, if it's plugged in it's on. If this is the case with yours, a simple surge protector with a little switch right on the desk comes in quite handy.

gclg2000
07-18-2005, 11:29 PM
around -40'ish

k00lance
07-19-2005, 04:51 AM
How is his single stager with dual heads?
Will dual heads deliver the same cooling as single head on cpu?
I plan to cool both my cpu and vga with dual heads..
Adding a controller to chilly1 unit alone is extra $2xx
and dual heads seem to cost $7xx
Too much money is involved in vapor set ups.
I see that you can get a mach II with LCD and controller/ a64kit
for $6xxshipped.
Which is better deal? chilly1 without controller VS. mach II Lcd/64kit $6xx?

One_Hertz
07-19-2005, 05:09 AM
what do you mean by dual heads? One unit cooling two things? Wouldnt that overload it? Gah I have to pay 200 for a controller :( . I could probably make a relay myself for about 50. Should be very similar to the relays used on pumps for watercooling, right?

hatemi
07-19-2005, 05:14 AM
You would also need some set boot up temperature for the copmputer.

Forget the controller and just start the damn thing about a minute before you start the compressor and thats it.

k00lance
07-19-2005, 06:26 AM
what do you mean by dual heads? One unit cooling two things? Wouldnt that overload it? Gah I have to pay 200 for a controller :( . I could probably make a relay myself for about 50. Should be very similar to the relays used on pumps for watercooling, right?

Eh.. you don't think it will be efficient enough to cool both cpu and vga?
It would be crazy to have 2 vapor units on single computer(Price of cascade..)
I just want to know which is a better deal.

Levish
07-19-2005, 07:16 AM
How is his single stager with dual heads?
Will dual heads deliver the same cooling as single head on cpu?
I plan to cool both my cpu and vga with dual heads..
Adding a controller to chilly1 unit alone is extea $200
and dual heads seem to cost $750
Too much money is involved in vapor set ups.
I see that you can get a mach II with LCD and controller/ a64kit
for $630 shipped.
Which is better deal? chilly1 without controller VS. mach II Lcd/64kit $630?

You are comparing a dual headed unit with a single headed unit, the controller on the Chilly1 unit also doesn't suffer from overly optimistic readouts.

I also happen to like chilly1's mounting from all the threads I read about

k00lance
07-19-2005, 07:33 AM
You are comparing a dual headed unit with a single headed unit, the controller on the Chilly1 unit also doesn't suffer from overly optimistic readouts.

I also happen to like chilly1's mounting from all the threads I read about
doh... but what I am asking for is ... which is the BETTER deal??

n00b 0f l337
07-19-2005, 07:36 AM
Welll if you got the chilly1 you cool both components... If you get the mach, you cool only one. So it would cost 1260$ to cool both with the mach and $750 for the chilly... Hmmmmm....

Hard decision?

hatemi
07-19-2005, 08:55 AM
And Chilly unit will give you ~20 lower temps than original mach2.

k00lance
07-19-2005, 09:25 AM
And Chilly unit will give you ~20 lower temps than original mach2.

Uhh.. I think that depends what gas the unit will be loaded.
MachII uses 134 and GT uses 404a, it seems chilly can load any gas of choice.

hatemi
07-19-2005, 09:27 AM
I ment better than the R134A mach2 :)

Ssilencer
07-19-2005, 09:41 AM
You are buying the G-froster full version, with a 20x4 blue lcd display included, and a probe that reads -60c with 1 degree of difference, not a unit that has a 7segments display and a probe that reads 20c difference and with something like 20c less in real temps (Mach II r134a)...

You can ask chilly for the value version, it would costs about U$S100 less, same probe and 7 segments display included.

So, now, you can discount U$S100 to the chilly unit. ;)

skate2snow
07-19-2005, 09:43 AM
Chilly1 will use R402a.... And K00lance.... did you ask for a price at least or you just estimate it?

One hertz, just tell to chilly1 that you just make sure that when it arrives you plug in and it works (thats how he ships normally, but just to assure yourself;)). Just ask what you want to chilly and he will do it has you want.... if you look into the threads you will see all the heighs, all the lenghts, all the forms, all the colors he made....

The way it works with chilly..... Ask him that you want that that that and that on it, and that you want that it does that that that and that, and he will give you a quote for THAT;)

I THINK that he uses a normal switch on his units now.... But I am not sure... either that or you plug and it starts.... Either way is no big deal...

k00lance
07-19-2005, 09:50 AM
Chilly1 will use R402a.... And K00lance.... did you ask for a price at least or you just estimate it?

One hertz, just tell to chilly1 that you just make sure that when it arrives you plug in and it works (thats how he ships normally, but just to assure yourself;)). Just ask what you want to chilly and he will do it has you want.... if you look into the threads you will see all the heighs, all the lenghts, all the forms, all the colors he made....

The way it works with chilly..... Ask him that you want that that that and that on it, and that you want that it does that that that and that, and he will give you a quote for THAT;)

I THINK that he uses a normal switch on his units now.... But I am not sure... either that or you plug and it starts.... Either way is no big deal...


Yeah.. I asked for price.

k00lance
07-19-2005, 09:52 AM
He will use r507 for dual heads.
What do you mean by he will only use 402a.
He said he can customize it anyway I choose, any gas I choose

n00b 0f l337
07-19-2005, 10:07 AM
Different gases cost different amounts and work for different applications. He'll tell you the price for what he can do. Don't assume.

Ssilencer
07-19-2005, 10:40 AM
Yeah.. I asked for price... $500 single stager, $750 single stager dual heads,
extra $200 for control installed, cascade@ $2500~4000.
Is this the price most members paid?
I just can't decide between prometeia or chilly1.. :confused:

what do you see as an advantage in a promie?
The worst temps?
The awfull readouts in the probe?

hatemi
07-19-2005, 10:55 AM
The chilly unit is in every possible way better than Prommy. Better quality. better controller. better preformance. easier mounting etc.

k00lance
07-19-2005, 11:06 AM
Price is what matters.
I just spent $$ upgrading both of my pc's.
I do have money to spend but.. I do not wish to blow everything on
cooling set ups.
Prometeia's temperature monitor is indeed not good but the fact
it contains amd64kit, controller, LCD(even tho it is inaccurate, its still worth something), shipping, all for $630

sluflyer06
07-19-2005, 11:11 AM
I think it might be better if you kept your quotes private...you never know when chilly may need to raise his prices or make changes and if everyone psots what they paid then they'll complain if they PM him and get a higher price....what other members have paid in the past is between them and chilly.....(chilly please excuse me if i'm wrong on this and you don't mind, it's just my experience in doing business like this that these numbers are usually kept private)

in my experience I've had to PM chilly a couple times to get all my questions answered.....remember that cooling both your CPU and GPU with a single stage your temps on the CPU will most likely be in the positives...normally a twin evap single stage with two GPU's will run about -20 on the GPU die...so double the heat on that evap head and go from there....i'm not saying it won't be kick ass...but don't even think your gonna get -40 to -50C on the the evap heads when its twin evap.....thats just not possible with single stage.

gclg2000
07-19-2005, 11:12 AM
The support you will get from chilly1 is also something i would consider too. His block is the best on the market and will hold the best loaded temps.

Are you in it for the best performance?

And its not proper etiquette to be discussing prices on the forum. Please do not do so.

hatemi
07-19-2005, 11:12 AM
The chilly1 evap will fit any curent socket. If your complaning on about 70$ price difference on cooling units that have major preformance and usability differences then go ahead.

skate2snow
07-19-2005, 11:14 AM
The advantages of the chilly1 over prommy is far from limited to the customization.... The temps loaded/unloaded are more then 10-15c better, the mounting is incredible, the unit is more cool, Its 100% handmade (ATM no machine can replace a man), and you have the option to have an awesome controller made by Golden eagle here...

I personnaly dont see ANY advantages to take the prommy...

gclg2000
07-19-2005, 11:18 AM
Also, man there are many people that have units by him that are very happy. You should let the results from others speak for themselves. The best OC's have always come from custom units.

Plus hey...your helping support Xtremesystems.org when you buy from chilly1. Where else would you get all the great help, OC'ing and friendly environment all bundled into one cuddly little fuzz ball? :) All the trial and error that goes on here and the support it yields w/ various bios, drivers, tweaks fixes for all angles of computing and different systems.

k00lance
07-19-2005, 11:24 AM
I guess for around same price I will choose chilly1.
sorry for all these bothersome replies :D
I will pm for a custom unit..

gclg2000
07-19-2005, 11:28 AM
I guess for around same price I will choose chilly1.
sorry for all these bothersome replies :D
I will pm for a custom unit..

No no..no bother at all. Just helping ya out.

Only thing we require for you to be "cool." Is to take some pics and screen shots of the results and etc. you get when you hook it up.

Welcome to Xtreme. :toast:

k00lance
07-19-2005, 12:02 PM
Took off money tags just in case :D
Safe forum use~!

Ssilencer
07-19-2005, 03:54 PM
Price is what matters.
I just spent $$ upgrading both of my pc's.
I do have money to spend but.. I do not wish to blow everything on
cooling set ups.
Prometeia's temperature monitor is indeed not good but the fact
it contains amd64kit, controller, LCD(even tho it is inaccurate, its still worth something), shipping, all for $630


You did not read well my post.
Chilly1 single stage works with intel and amd sockets, so, AMD and Intel socket kit is included :D
You can get a Chilly1 unit with a value controller and it would costs less than 700.
If you are spending that money, be sure to get the best unit you can, or you will be spending some more money in a regass service in no time, and then you will have a chilly1 modified promie (630+ regassing service).

Everyone here are telling you to get a custom built unit, if you want a promie anyway, well don't expect that someone gives you the kudos for a great buy.

k00lance
07-19-2005, 11:25 PM
Well... I decided to get chilly1 unit.
I like the fact you can customize the hose length and etc..

One_Hertz
07-20-2005, 05:51 AM
yeah same

pazza316
07-20-2005, 05:49 PM
I have ordered a Chilly one single Stage and will be ordering a Cascade too. My experience of chilly is he is simply the best. He answers every question asked very accurately and concisly. He has also helped me mod Vapo LS's and Mach 2's with great results. It is simple with chilly one you get the best units from the best phase change guru around! with the best back up available simple as!!

gkiing
07-20-2005, 09:35 PM
anyone realize that the questions in this thread are directed at chilly1 but you all are answering them instead of him? I mean, its fine if you know the details of his product.

k00lance
07-21-2005, 04:02 AM
I have ordered a Chilly one single Stage and will be ordering a Cascade too. My experience of chilly is he is simply the best. He answers every question asked very accurately and concisly. He has also helped me mod Vapo LS's and Mach 2's with great results. It is simple with chilly one you get the best units from the best phase change guru around! with the best back up available simple as!!

lol.. for what purpose would you need vapo LS,Mach,chilly1,.. cascade
all together?
That's like spending 6k on cooling just to repeat the same benchmark someone has already done..
I want to get chilly1 unit as soon as possible but pm comes so slow.. :rolleyes:

wdrzal
07-21-2005, 05:36 AM
They are having record heat in las vegas as we are here and I am sure chilly is working very long days as I am.

pazza316
07-21-2005, 05:56 AM
I was just stating for me Chilly1 has shown excellent customer service. If I want to spend 6K on cooling is that not my business Koolance!!

gclg2000
07-21-2005, 05:57 AM
It's 85F w/ 100% humidity here in Pensacola, FL.

100F heat index. Couple of my HVAC tech buddies are going to town right now too.

wdrzal
07-21-2005, 07:48 AM
its been 90+ for severial weeks here in Pennsylvania