View Full Version : Intel got a visit from EU
Frisch
07-12-2005, 05:13 PM
The European commission has "visit" several of Intels European office.
The suspicion, that the American manufactor of microchips misused their
leading market share, caused the visit.
But not only Intel had a visit, Hitachi Ltd., Sony, NEC Corp., Fujitsu Ltd. and Toshiba Corp had to open their doors too.
Intel said that they were willing to coorporate with the European commission.
The rest we know.
The japanese story, where Intel offerd discounts for computer manufactors which didn't use the competitors products.
AMD's lawsuit for 55 mill. $
So it's getting hot.
And the fight continues.
Danish link :http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/eu/article.jhtml?articleID=264275
PS
Intel ofcourse, dont see any problems in the way they handle things (go figure :D ) "our way of buisness apply to the law"
[XC] leviathan18
07-12-2005, 05:18 PM
this was posted before
DilTech
07-12-2005, 08:54 PM
I already posted this one...
FUGGER
07-12-2005, 09:04 PM
lol 55 million? If it were 550 million it would be about right. AMD is aiming way too low.
Intel gave away 100 Million in research grants last year. AMD zippo
I hate to say it but the lawyers are the ones who will make any money from this.
Are you sure 55 million?
DilTech
07-12-2005, 09:23 PM
It's ALOT more than 55 million fugger, he's got it wrong...Check my thread on this. I have about 6 or 7 various links with info on the subject.
[XC] leviathan18
07-13-2005, 07:12 AM
i tought they were talking about BILLIONS
SlicerSV
07-13-2005, 07:15 AM
i don't see any of them specifying the amount sought in the japanese court, only what the JFTC fined Intel for.
the JFTC fined intel for $55mill
[XC] leviathan18
07-13-2005, 08:06 AM
but i read somewhere about the amd lawsuit being for billions
SlicerSV
07-13-2005, 09:59 AM
and so it most likely is leviathan... but i have yet to see someone actually say it ;) the inquirer may have, but only idiots take the inquirer 100% seriously.
[XC] leviathan18
07-13-2005, 10:14 AM
yeah i saw it somewhere dont remember where but i know i saw it xD
Frisch
07-14-2005, 07:07 AM
lol 55 million? If it were 550 million it would be about right. AMD is aiming way too low.
Intel gave away 100 Million in research grants last year. AMD zippo
I hate to say it but the lawyers are the ones who will make any money from this.
Are you sure 55 million?
The official amount IS 55 mill $, what's going on behind the door's, i wont comment on.
My thoughts about the "low" amount is :
I dont think AMD' goal in this case is the money, it's the market. The money is just symbolic, in the sence that the market share is the concern in this case.
AMD want "fair play" and a piece of the premade PC's market like dell.
wdrzal
07-14-2005, 07:35 AM
Its the consumer who decides what chip they want, not the manufacturer.If people don't want intel ,just don't buy a pc with a intel chip.
Frisch
07-14-2005, 07:38 AM
Its the consumer who decides what chip they want, not the manufacturer.If people don't want intel ,just don't buy a pc with a intel chip.
Thats the case, it isn't.
DilTech
07-14-2005, 01:09 PM
Frisch, you got it all wrong. AMD is going for BILLIONS from intel. $55 million was from a different lawsuit altogether.
Frisch
07-14-2005, 01:46 PM
DEMAND FOR TRIAL BY JURY
158. Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 38(b), AMD demands trial by jury of all issues so
triable under the law.
PRAYER FOR RELIEF
WHEREFORE, AMD PRAYS THIS COURT:
A. Find that Intel is wrongfully maintaining its monopoly in the x86 Microprocessor
Market in violation of Section 2 of the Sherman Act and award AMD treble damages in an
amount to be proven at trial, pursuant to Section 4 of the Clayton Act, 15 U.S.C. § 15(a).
B. Find that Intel has made secret payments and allowance of rebates and discounts,
and secretly and discriminatorily extended to certain purchasers special services or privileges, all
in violation of California Business & Professions Code § 17045, and pursuant thereto award
AMD treble damages for its resulting lost profits in an amount to be proven at trial.
C. Find that Intel has intentionally interfered with valuable business relationships of
AMD to its economic detriment and award AMD damages in an amount to be proven at trial for
its resulting losses, as well as punitive damages, as permitted by law.
D. Grant injunctive relief prohibiting Intel and all persons, firms and corporations
acting on its behalf or under its direction or control from engaging in any further conduct
unlawful under Section 2 of the Sherman Act or Section 17045 of the California Business and
Professions Code.
E. Award AMD such other, further and different relief as may be necessary or
appropriate to restore and maintain competitive conditions in the x86 Microprocessor Market.
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F. Award AMD attorney’s fees and costs of the action.
[XC] leviathan18
07-14-2005, 01:52 PM
amd more than money the want to enter with dell in the market
Frisch
07-14-2005, 02:16 PM
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF DELAWARE
ADVANCED MICRO DEVICES, INC., a
Delaware corporation, and AMD
INTERNATIONAL SALES & SERVICE,
LTD., a Delaware corporation,
Plaintiffs,
vs.
INTEL CORPORATION, a Delaware
corporation, and INTEL KABUSHIKI
KAISHA, a Japanese corporation,
Defendants.
))))))))))))))
Civil Action No. ________________
JURY TRIAL DEMANDED
COMPLAINT
Plaintiffs ADVANCED MICRO DEVICES, INC. and AMD INTERNATIONAL
SALES & SERVICE, LTD. (hereafter collectively, “AMD”), by and through their undersigned
attorneys, and for their complaint against INTEL CORPORATION and its worldwide family of
dominated subsidiaries, including INTEL KABUSHIKI KAISHA (hereafter collectively, “Intel”),
aver on knowledge as to themselves and their own acts and on information and belief as to all
other matters, as follows:
NATURE OF THE ACTION
1. Like Standard Oil at the turn of the Nineteenth Century and Alcoa Aluminum
during the Twentieth, Intel holds a monopoly in a market critical to our economy:
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microprocessors that run the Microsoft Windows and Linux families of operating systems
(hereinafter the “x86 Microprocessor Market”). Although AMD competes with Intel in this
global market, Intel possesses unmistakable and undeniable market power, its microprocessor
revenues accounting for approximately 90% of the worldwide total (and 80% of the units).
2. Just like Standard Oil and Alcoa before it, for over a decade Intel has unlawfully
maintained its monopoly by engaging in a relentless, worldwide campaign to coerce customers
to refrain from dealing with AMD. Among other things,
• Intel has forced major customers into exclusive or near-exclusive deals;
• it has conditioned rebates, allowances and market development funding on customers’
agreement to severely limit or forego entirely purchases from AMD;
• it has established a system of discriminatory, retroactive, first-dollar rebates triggered by
purchases at such high levels as to have the practical and intended effect of denying
customers the freedom to purchase any significant volume of processors from AMD;
• it has threatened retaliation against customers introducing AMD computer platforms,
particularly in strategic market segments;
• it has established and enforced quotas among key retailers effectively requiring them to
stock overwhelmingly, if not exclusively, Intel-powered computers, thereby artificially
limiting consumer choice;
• it has forced PC makers and technology partners to boycott AMD product launches and
promotions;
• and it has abused its market power by forcing on the industry technical standards and
products which have as their central purpose the handicapping of AMD in the
marketplace.
3. Intel’s economic coercion of customers extends to all levels – from large
computer-makers like Hewlett-Packard and IBM to small system-builders to wholesale
distributors to retailers such as Circuit City. All face the same choice: accept conditions that
exclude AMD or suffer discriminatory pricing and competitively crippling treatment. In this
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way, Intel has avoided competition on the merits and deprived AMD of the opportunity to
stake its prices and quality against Intel’s for every potential microprocessor sale.
4. Intel’s conduct has become increasingly egregious over the past several years as
AMD has achieved technological leadership in critical aspects of microprocessor architecture.
In April 2003, AMD introduced its Opteron microprocessor, the first microprocessor to take
x86 computing from 32 bits to 64 bits – an advance that allows computer applications to
address exponentially more memory, thereby increasing performance and enabling features not
possible with just 32 bits. Unlike Intel’s 64-bit architecture of the time (Itanium), the AMD
Opteron – as well as its subsequently-introduced desktop cousin, the AMD Athlon64 – offers
backward compatibility, allowing PC users to continue using 32-bit software as, over time,
they upgrade their hardware. Bested in a technology duel over which it long claimed
leadership, Intel increased exploitation of its market power to pressure customers to refrain
from migrating to AMD’s superior, lower-cost microprocessors.
5. Intel’s conduct has unfairly and artificially capped AMD’s market share, and
constrained it from expanding to reach the minimum efficient levels of scale necessary to
compete with Intel as a predominant supplier to major customers. As a result, computer
manufacturers continue to buy most of their requirements from Intel, continue to pay
monopoly prices, continue to be exposed to Intel’s economic coercion, and continue to submit
to artificial limits Intel places on their purchases from AMD. With AMD’s opportunity to
compete thus constrained, the cycle continues, and Intel’s monopoly profits continue to flow.
6. Consumers ultimately foot this bill, in the form of inflated PC prices and the loss
of freedom to purchase computer products that best fit their needs. Society is worse off for
lack of innovation that only a truly competitive market can drive. The Japanese Government
recognized these competitive harms when on March 8, 2005, its Fair Trade Commission (the
“JFTC”) recommended that Intel be sanctioned for its exclusionary misconduct directed at
AMD. Intel chose not to contest the charges.
Quanticles
07-14-2005, 07:58 PM
Unfortunately, the way things have been going with other court issues lately, I wouldnt be suprised if Intel won =(
krille
07-15-2005, 03:11 AM
Unfortunately, the way things have been going with other court issues lately, I wouldnt be suprised if Intel won =(
Blasphemy!