Compressor question (Saftey)

[sin0822]

Do compressors explode, i know this might sound dumb but just a question. Im not going to touch it or anything, but chilly1 is making it i know he is going to do a great job, but i need reasons why they dont explode to tell my parents.

[saratoga]

Compressors are built in large metal shells, so I don't think they'll explode. If the pressure got high enough, you'll probably just burst at the condensor or one of the joints, whichever is weaker and vent the pressure that way.

[sin0822]

ok so the unit wouldnt explode, but leak at a joint, that a good reason 1, but are there any other.

[wdrzal]

A properly built system is completly safe, a compressr has a internal pressure bypass if pressures become to high in a single stage.

the main concern is in cascades, people who build there own without using the proper safety mechanisms.this is not a problem in single stage systems.( as I asume you are getting) they do not use "very high pressure" gases.

even cascades are safe when built with the proper pressure releif valves and controls.

Tell your parents if chilly built it its as safe as Their refrigerator.

[BB mods's]

hahahah i poped a rotary 1 time...flame on my torch went out and i filled the compressor with oxy/acet..when i seen what happend we tossed it out side..yea my buddy thought it would be good to shoot a roman candle at it..she went BOOM! :p:

[Stewie007]

You do things like this for fun? Then I have no convictions in saying you're a complete idiot.

On to Sin.... The closest your compressor could come to exploding is a short. Defects in wiring can cause it to go ZAP.. Its like any other appliance though, and its not something that you should worry about. That's what grounding is for. :) It trips the circuit breaker too.

As for pressure, generally an operating system bursts at braze joints, most of the time inaudible and undetectable until performance starts hurting due to a leak. I wouldn't worry about any explosions...

Both scenarios are really nothing to worry about. Safety measures have been taken by both the manufacturer of your compressor, and the electrician who wired you home. :)

[BB mods's]

You do things like this for fun? Then I have no convictions in saying you're a complete idiot.

On to Sin.... The closest your compressor could come to exploding is a short. Defects in wiring can cause it to go ZAP.. Its like any other appliance though, and its not something that you should worry about. That's what grounding is for. :) It trips the circuit breaker too.

As for pressure, generally an operating system bursts at braze joints, most of the time inaudible and undetectable until performance starts hurting due to a leak. I wouldn't worry about any explosions...

Both scenarios are really nothing to worry about. Safety measures have been taken by both the manufacturer of your compressor, and the electrician who wired you home. :)


You need to read this again man..that's not what i said...it was a mistake on my part to fill it with gas..my boy is the 1 that had the bright idea to shoot at it with the roman candle...watch poping off at the keyboard and calling people name's u might offend some 1. :stick:

[jjcom]

I wouldn't worry about it exploding, it'll leak at a joint before you'll have any troubles with an explostion. It's a Chilly1 made unit, that thing is safe :)

jjcom

[Stewie007]

You need to read this again man..that's not what i said...it was a mistake on my part to fill it with gas..my boy is the 1 that had the bright idea to shoot at it with the roman candle...watch poping off at the keyboard and calling people name's u might offend some 1. :stick:

Well you worded it in an odd manner. :p: I didn't at first realize what you meant. So you're not a complete idiot I do suppose. :)

Kinda makes me the jackass doesn't it? :banana:

[BB mods's]

I have many degree's and cert's to prove im not a retard :p:

[n00b 0f l337]

have many degree's and cert's to prove im nto a retard
Your looking for me.... :)

Yeah, its easily read wrong, but otherwise its hard to blow a compressor....

...while using correctly....

[BB mods's]

your not a tard eather!

[wdrzal]

sin0822 ask a question to reasure his parents these systems are safe, talk of blowing things up and retards I bet made a good impression on his parents.

[sin0822]

well my parents arent reading this, theyll just listen to what i have to say, but i need a reasonable explination. I cam up with we have 3 compressors inside our house already, and 2 huge ones out side and they run with out explodeing. I trust Chilly1 with what he does and thats why i asked him to build me one of his lengendary units. I also told my parents hes an hvac engineer and that he knows what hes doing. It was my mom whos overprotective, my dad just wants to knwo why i need to spend hundreds on cooling, and i just say its it end of coolign for me for a long time.

Thanks for all your help guys.

[chilly1]

Do compressors explode, i know this might sound dumb but just a question. Im not going to touch it or anything, but chilly1 is making it i know he is going to do a great job, but i need reasons why they dont explode to tell my parents.

First there is one exactly like thing configured to do the same thing in the same way as what is under your refrigerator at home.

The gasses used in the single stage systems that I build are Nonflammable.

There is an internal overload that will cut off when temperatures are too high.

The fuse will open up if teh amperage goes above it's rated value.

[sin0822]

thanks a ton man, ill be there.

[mr-white]

continuing on safety what could happen if you use a flammable gas, is there a chance the compressor could electrically malfunction and ignite the gas ?

i'm using propane, how much is usually in a single stage system and what sort of explosion would i see if by chance it does leak and ignite ?

MW

[wdrzal]

the expolsive range of propane in air is 2.2 to 9.5 percent. since there should be no air in the system it can not explode while inside. The real danger is if a leak occurs and the gas stays within a closed area and is inginted by the starting electrics. Propane is used in europe, but they have special electrics and their compressors are designed to address the ingnition issue.

[mr-white]

if it does ignite i take it im looking at more than just singed eyebrows ?

sorry im just being paranoid

MW

[wdrzal]

the systems are small and don't contain much gas, if in the very very unlikey event a leak developed and inginited ,it would not cause a major explosion.

The biggest danger from flammable refrigerants comes from not knowning how to handle gases safely. This applies not only to the flamable aspect but pressure as well.

[mr-white]

the systems are small and don't contain much gas, if in the very very unlikey event a leak developed and inginited ,it would not cause a major explosion

does that apply to most common refrigerants or just propane ?

MW

[wdrzal]

flammable refrigerants are illegal in the usa, that said refrigerants like r22, r134a, 400 and 500 series are all non flamable.

[Unknown_road]

flammable refrigerants are illegal in the usa, that said refrigerants like r22, r134a, 400 and 500 series are all non flamable.

Illegal? In my opinion that's just short sighted.

[mr-white]

i never knew that, does that apply to any gas thats used as a refrigerant ? or does a gas only become a refrigerant when its used in cooling ?

MW

[wdrzal]

the beleif is why expose people and property to a potential danger when there are non-flammable alternitives.

[Tyrou]

is R600 illegal in the us ? Most of our fridges in Europe, and in Asia too, are filled with is, as it doesn't hurt the ozone layer :)

[wdrzal]

It is illegel to use any hydrocarbon as a refrigerant in the USA.

[Tyrou]

but blends with R290 are still available (R402 for instance), that's strange :)

[wdrzal]

blends that are "stable in air" are allowed