DFI LP nF4 7/2 NEW BIOS [Archive] - XtremeSystems Forums

windwithme

07-01-2005, 08:25 PM

AMD-me

07-01-2005, 08:33 PM

kool, im not trying it yet :D

waddupmm

07-01-2005, 08:40 PM

Alphas wouldnt mess wit em at least wait until beta

flexy

07-01-2005, 08:42 PM

as long as it's not "pre alphas" :) Anyway...who wants to try ? :)

[XC] 4X4N

07-01-2005, 08:42 PM

Ya, I have been trying all of these new bios lately. None of them have been any better than the 5/10 ones for me. I'll wait too :D

THunDA

07-01-2005, 08:46 PM

Im usually pretty brave with my bios savior ... but im kinda scared..lol

I wana hear at least 2-3 people flash and then ill try it.. ;)

craig588

07-01-2005, 08:46 PM

I have been out of the cpu revisions for a while, which CPUs do the memory multis work on?

Kunaak

07-01-2005, 08:48 PM

Venices and X2's I believe would be version E's.

Rezag1000

07-01-2005, 08:49 PM

looks like no one is jumping in...........I gues I wont either :)

longsiew

07-01-2005, 08:53 PM

I will try if it can cure my cold boot.

bachus_anonym

07-01-2005, 09:06 PM

DONE :D 702-1 on San Diego 3700+

Two major additions...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33495&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33496&stc=1

Just flashed it so no testing yet ;)

THunDA

07-01-2005, 09:14 PM

bachus_anonym.. the brave one..hehe.. :)

Ill flash it tomorrow.. Too busy testing my ram I just got back from rma..

Dumo

07-01-2005, 09:16 PM

Will try it, hopefully it will cure the E & tccd probs...Thanks WWM :toast:

Minnyboy

07-01-2005, 09:20 PM

this is the alpha stage bios for E version cpu , ddr speed higher than htt bus ... it's not completely tested . so use it very carefully . if you fail to boot after bios flash , try to clear cmos or press/hold the insert key and press reset button to reset the system ... The system bios will automatically hide the non-functionable ddr divider/multilier depend on the cpu clock multiplier selected

702-1 (http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/N4D702-1.zip)

702-2 (http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/N4D702-2.zip)

702-3 (http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/N4D702-1.zip)

thanks OSAKR :)

Umm... Any ideas as to why the 702-1 & 702-3 are listed under the same name when trying to d/load them??

Will give these a shot a bit later...

Just waiting til my 48hour of Prime95 + 1hr loops of 3DMark 01SE/03/05 & all SuperPI tests prove to be stable... Using 623-2 bios ATM...

Hopefully these new bios will help my PC3200 GOLD out as the last few haven't been stable @ 240MHz like the 510-2/510-3 bios was...

BTW, stable to me means 48hrs+ of Memtest86+ standard test stable with 50 loops of Test 3, 5, 6 thrown in the mix as well...

I'll be back to report my findings with the 702 bios...

Cheers,
Minh

craig588

07-01-2005, 09:28 PM

Here's (http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/N4D702-3.zip) the real -3 bios.

Dumo

07-01-2005, 09:53 PM

Heres with 702-2 @ 233=RAM/FSB:07/06 and Dram Response Time at fast......cpuz mem. can't read...

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3633/screenshot1361gp.jpg

bachus_anonym

07-01-2005, 09:58 PM

@Dumo

Hmm... On my SD 3700+ CPU-Z won't recognize mem dividers 233 and 250 at all... Those two fileds in Memory Tab are blank... and yeah, in A64 Tweaker div233 is 117 and I think 255 is 133++ ;) Everest and Clockgen won't recognize mem frequency correctly, either... Looks like we need updates now :D

Also, WWM forgot to add that Oscar injected the latest Memtest 1.60 in that BIOS, just for "memtest junkies" :D

babyelf

07-01-2005, 10:03 PM

flashing :)

hmm so is ur ram really running @ 5/4 or it's running @ what cpuz is showing?

ninja_xxx

07-01-2005, 10:15 PM

does this bios fix divider issues with venice

pershoot

07-01-2005, 10:16 PM

flash is safe. flashed both 702-1 and 702-2. thx wwm and oskar:)

Rezag1000

07-01-2005, 10:16 PM

lol, I don't believe the memtest website even has 1.6v out yet :D :D

EDIT:NM, it does :(

setyotomo

07-01-2005, 10:26 PM

the point of using DDR>HTT... :confused: , maybe gonna see higher RAM clks on windows than before?

craig588

07-01-2005, 10:32 PM

If you have a memory controller than can't handle running at high frequencies.

I don't really see the point though, you could just drop the multi on the CPU and keep the memory 1:1.

I would like to see half multis more than this.

bachus_anonym

07-01-2005, 10:37 PM

That's very true... div233 and div250 are just for those that want/can only OC their mems... Like 200x10=2000Mhz DDR466 or DDR500. I don't think I will be using it but maybe some will ;)

setyotomo

07-01-2005, 10:37 PM

yes .5 multi more helpful than this i guess .. and my venice is 3000+ (multi 9) and i'm running 312x9 (daily) , 350x8 (bench) ... i cannot see any ram (yet) to pull higher than 350 with tight timings..

anyhow, thx wwm n oskar.

babyelf

07-01-2005, 10:40 PM

bachus.. know whether running 250 is really clocking ur ram to 250 when u are at 200 yet?

doesn't show in cpuz :S

Kunaak

07-01-2005, 10:41 PM

how do these go again?

1 is for BH5-6/UTT/VX

2 is for general.

3. is for TCCD/TCC5??

setyotomo

07-01-2005, 10:47 PM

no..

TCCD/TCC5 -1
UTT -2
general -3

Dumo

07-01-2005, 11:10 PM

Memory performance better than 618-2 ;)

bachus_anonym

07-01-2005, 11:10 PM

bachus.. know whether running 250 is really clocking ur ram to 250 when u are at 200 yet?

doesn't show in cpuz :S

Well... As we all know by now, all apps show wrong frequencies. But here's quick 2M run for comparison:

224x11=2464Mhz div250 DDR560 (280Mhz) 6-3-3-2.5-1T

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33498&stc=1

274x9=2466Mhz div250 DDR548 (274Mhz) 6-3-3-2.5-1T

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33499&stc=1

Both are pretty much same results, within margin of error ;) There's a difference of 6Mhz on DDR as I wanted to keep same CPU clocks.
I know that larger calculations would be better but that was supposed to be quick test...

BadlyDrawnBoy

07-01-2005, 11:23 PM

does this bios fix divider issues with venice

I hope so too.

babyelf

07-01-2005, 11:28 PM

woot... so it does work :D

Dumo

07-01-2005, 11:49 PM

275 so far with GH...was hard with 618-2 bios... :toast:
Try it with utt and you will like it :D

http://img298.imageshack.us/img298/718/screenshot1402jo.jpg
http://img298.imageshack.us/img298/4633/screenshot1426cv.jpg

dimasdw

07-02-2005, 12:02 AM

before trying it ,i want to Ask , no USB bug ?
cause my keyboard use USB

Dumo

07-02-2005, 12:07 AM

before trying it ,i want to Ask , no USB bug ?
cause my keyboard use USBDimas, same here and no problem :)

cpulloverclock

07-02-2005, 01:05 AM

does this bios fix divider issues with venice
I had'nt dividers problem with my Venice :confused:

stealth17

07-02-2005, 02:55 AM

275 so far with GH...was hard with 618-2 bios... :toast:
Try it with utt and you will like it :D

so you gained mem clock with this bios? which one? -1 -2 or -3?

pancake

07-02-2005, 03:20 AM

no..

TCCD/TCC5 -1
UTT -2
general -3

hmm according to the guide in the amd stickys section -1 is general tccd/bh/utt -2 is for bh utt -3 tccd tcc5 . flashed 623-3 and it set the settings pretty much the same as i do on my tccd

stealth17

07-02-2005, 03:28 AM

lmfao it kills me how everyone still argues about that. it amazes me ocz and dfi have even branded them at for utt or tccd ect. EVERY BOARD, MEMORY, AND CPU IS DIFFERENT. ITS WHAT WORKS FOR YOU! I REPEAT, ITS WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!!!

this is what ive come to from my years of overclocking. Oppainter's (iirc is who it is) board works best with bios 125 for god sakes while others like me cant do :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: with that bios. like back in the lan party B days, i have CRAZY luck with merlins bios, i couldnt POST with ANY of oscar wus bioses, and hellfires sucked for me. complete opposite for other ppl and suck. ITS WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!

[timko]

07-02-2005, 03:52 AM

lmfao it kills me how everyone still argues about that.

I know what you mean. I'm always advocating that people should test each version ( -1, -2 and -3) for themselves if they've got the time but people still want to debate it :)

babyelf

07-02-2005, 04:08 AM

flashed to 702-2 :D

http://www.comeapart.com/babyelf/sandiego/29721.648superpi1mbbh-5.JPG

pershoot

07-02-2005, 06:17 AM

havent done extensive testing, but still cant break 244-245 or so in windows (using previous settings on utt bh in orange). memtest is fine to 250. i just dont get it. unless im doing something horribly wrong...

pancake

07-02-2005, 06:24 AM

running the -3 works fine for me.. dont know if its helped my overclock as im using new cpu and bios today for the first time

EazTerence

07-02-2005, 06:50 AM

I'm with 702-1.. No difference from 510 to 615 to 623 and til now.. Lolz.. I really feel that there isn't any difference except for different options..

THunDA

07-02-2005, 07:58 AM

I flashed to 702-2 this morning with my 4x512mb 3200rev2's installed.. I was testing these with the 510-2 bios and had it pretty stable at 264x11.. I'll mess with this bios later tonight, but it flashed fine..

lmfao it kills me how everyone still argues about that. it amazes me ocz and dfi have even branded them at for utt or tccd ect. EVERY BOARD, MEMORY, AND CPU IS DIFFERENT. ITS WHAT WORKS FOR YOU! I REPEAT, ITS WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!!!

Im with you on that dude.. I was getting sweet results with -2 bios and my tcc5..

:banana:

PORTUGAL

07-02-2005, 08:25 AM

i flashed to -2,and found a bug,when using the 233 or 250 im mem divider,after changing setings,reboot or power up i have to go a second time to bios and save,if i dont do this the vdimm hardware monitor shows 3.3vdimmm,but the value that i have defined(3.6v)is there(when i save it goes to normal value 3.6v,after reboot ou shutdown,gos to 3.2v(this is why i have to save them at every reboot or power up).

BLHealthy4life

07-02-2005, 09:06 AM

Hi.

Would someone please show me how to figure RAM speed with the new 233 and 250 divider.

Thanks!

NiCKE^

07-02-2005, 02:59 PM

htt/(5/4) = 250
htt/(7/6) = 230
Think that should work. I will update dfi-bios.tk with these bios's.

Vapor

07-02-2005, 09:29 PM

no..

TCCD/TCC5 -1
UTT -2
general -3
What about Micron/Ballistix?

BLHealthy4life

07-02-2005, 09:50 PM

htt/(5/4) = 250
htt/(7/6) = 230
Think that should work. I will update dfi-bios.tk with these bios's.

Thanks for your help...

it should be HTT*(5/4)

i.e. 200htt*1.25 = 250 DDR500

HTT*(7/6)

i.e. 200htt*1.16 = 233 DDR466

I didn't look at the BIOS screen shot close enough the first time around...

Take care

jjcom

07-02-2005, 10:18 PM

What about Micron/Ballistix?
I would guess that they fall under general, but again. test them all to see what one works best for you

jjcom

TheMeatFrog

07-02-2005, 10:39 PM

When in doubt just use -3 :D

//mAr

07-03-2005, 12:12 AM

I would guess that they fall under general, but again. test them all to see what one works best for you

jjcom
for micron chips the 3,16 ram table workin best for me

Huigie

07-03-2005, 02:27 AM

Does it really matter which one you use as most of us set the timings manually after a flash anyway...?

ben805

07-03-2005, 08:47 AM

702-2 works great for my Mushkin Redline....better than any other bioses out there :D :D

xgman

07-03-2005, 11:38 AM

How hard can it be to simply make this bios work with a PS2 mouse withou having to plug a PS2 keyboard in at the same time? I really am loosing patience with the DFI guys about this. :( :(

otherwise after a flash, needed to reset cmos to get the board to boot and all is fine now except that nagging usb mouse thing. :slapass:

Vapor

07-03-2005, 11:41 AM

Does it really matter which one you use as most of us set the timings manually after a flash anyway...?
I think so, yeah...

Anyway, is it normal to NOT be able to use the yellow slots at all with Micron/Ballistix? No post, nothing. Currently using -3 (not sure which table that one has....?).

EDIT: if memory serves me right, -2 is actually the 3/16 table and -3 does have a problem with the yellow slots or something, right?

pershoot

07-03-2005, 12:37 PM

EDIT: if memory serves me right, -2 is actually the 3/16 table and -3 does have a problem with the yellow slots or something, right?

-1,-2,-3 work with both yellow and orange.

troid

07-03-2005, 12:46 PM

Damn my DFI just died :( I'll try this one after i got my board back from RMA

Vapor

07-03-2005, 12:47 PM

-1,-2,-3 work with both yellow and orange.
-3 most definitely does not work with yellow for me. Could be my Ballistix though.

Shark-357

07-03-2005, 12:52 PM

-1 works for me best out off all finally my ram is stable at 312 and beyond... :toast: be4 it wouldnt run even 308 stable ...

ffletchs

07-03-2005, 01:34 PM

tried the 702-3, Im still no closer to get 1T to work, not even at stock :(

stealth17

07-03-2005, 01:45 PM

tried the 702-3, Im still no closer to get 1T to work, not even at stock :(

with 2x512mb?!? :eek:

ffletchs

07-03-2005, 01:47 PM

with 2x512mb?!? :eek:

yeah, ever since I got my venice 1T has been real hard to get working.

Dont know if my memory controller is fubar or if it has a coldbug :confused:

longsiew

07-04-2005, 12:01 AM

Hopefuly Oskar will come out with a new series of Bios that can 'unlock' the CPU multiplier becoz I am using winnie 3000+ and the highest multiplier is only 9. How I wish I can get 9.5 or 10 or 11 or anyting higher so that I do not need to oc my RAM to its limit.

stu_allen

07-04-2005, 02:04 AM

I think that limit is imposed by the silicon, not the bios.

stealth17

07-04-2005, 02:07 AM

Gnux

07-12-2005, 02:07 AM

http://www.lejabeach.com/DFI/dfinf4ultra/704-2BT.zip

Lastest BETA Bios:

Date Code 2005/07/06
File 704-2BT.zip
Size 390,190 bytes
Description:
Mod by BigToe
1. Removed all the CAS settings that don't work.
2. Remove the added 0.1vdimm thats applied when you set TRCD to 2
3. Add Ram Option A, B, C, E, D; support for ddr533 with FX57.

TheMeatFrog

07-12-2005, 02:18 AM

alpha0ne

07-12-2005, 02:28 AM

tried the 702-3, Im still no closer to get 1T to work, not even at stock :(

Hmmm thats about the best bios I have used up till now with my TCCD :confused:

http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/3881/pi128008cl.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Gnux

07-12-2005, 09:26 AM

Flashed and running fine :)

i did not have chance to test these bios. is a good ?
i excpecting my mobo!

AMD-me

07-12-2005, 02:42 PM

I just flashed to 702 -2 and now nothing boots :(

My computer restarts right after it begins loading windows. :slapass:

Anyone offer some help on how to boot, i loaded optimized defaults.

THunDA

07-12-2005, 04:40 PM

I just flashed to 702 -2 and now nothing boots :(

My computer restarts right after it begins loading windows. :slapass:

Anyone offer some help on how to boot, i loaded optimized defaults.

Unplug your psu.. then press the power button a few times to discharge any power left in the system..

Then move cmos jumper to the clear position and take the battery out for 10-15 mins..

After the 10-15 mins put battery back in and move jumper to normal position.

Put power back into psu..

Boot up..

Ugly n Grey

07-12-2005, 05:28 PM

OK, I just flashed -3 on my Ultra-D with my 4200. I am definitely getting faster and more stable overclocks in the early going PLUS this bios fixed a problem I was having with memory bandwidth testing just totally sucking on my x2 proc. Not very definitive at this point, glad to post results as they become more final, but the x2 is getting back up over 2.6 on air and I ain't done for the day.

alpha0ne

07-12-2005, 10:13 PM

Nice to hear ugly (if I may call you such :) ) please keep us posted as I and I am sure many others are very interested in how things go for you :toast:

longsiew

07-13-2005, 01:03 AM

I just flashed to 704-3 last night and I did not see memory divider for 233 and 250. Is the 7** series of Bios made especially for venice core and dual core. If the answer is yes, too bad becoz I am still using winnie

ReelMonza

07-13-2005, 03:24 AM

200+ dividers are available for E3 or newer revisions.

cantankerous

07-13-2005, 05:39 AM

Im still using a winnie too

Ugly n Grey

07-13-2005, 06:21 AM

Final results tested overnight with this BIOS - 3.
NF4 Ultra D
4200x2 @2689MHz CPUZ LINK (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=27353)
OCZ Premier @ 192 (Ocz DDR 500 on RMA)
Air cooling

Tested overnight using Systool with two instances of Pi.

Improvements Sandra Memory Bandwidth test from 3902 MB/s to 5975 MB/s on the top bar. Stable overclock increase from 2450MHz to above. I was running 510. So it worked for me in the final analysis. :D