FX-57 steppings........... [Archive]

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-01-2005, 07:00 AM

:D Now after release we see 0512 & 0513 which means a production in March.

What do You think? Will newer steppings be better?

:toast:

Jamo

07-01-2005, 07:26 AM

i'd wait for new steppings, ie the E6 revision ;)

QuikSilver

07-01-2005, 07:27 AM

Just wait for socket M2 chips, no use upgrading now ;) :cheer:

Jamo

07-01-2005, 07:29 AM

but thats not on the poll :p:

cpulloverclock

07-01-2005, 08:15 AM

M2 in one year

IvanAndreevich

07-01-2005, 08:22 AM

Hey where's the option "I will never buy this overpriced crap" :p

cpulloverclock

07-01-2005, 08:23 AM

Hey where's the option "I will never buy this overpriced crap" :p
lol, buy it and after many tests u sell it

;)

fatty

07-01-2005, 08:47 AM

mines an 0522

cpulloverclock

07-01-2005, 09:01 AM

mines an 0522
and it is tested?

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-01-2005, 09:38 AM

:D Is there anythin' not overpriced in the HW industry...... ? :p:

:toast:

waddupmm

07-01-2005, 10:04 AM

:D Is there anythin' not overpriced in the HW industry...... ? :p:

:toast:

Couldntve said it better myself

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-01-2005, 11:39 AM

:D Hehe - but if every member of XS dies tomorrow prices would drop dramaticly..........., and some resellers even would go bankrupt :slobber:

:toast:

xgman

07-01-2005, 01:55 PM

AMD price raming is hitting pretty hard the last year or so. then again top end vid cards aren't far behind. What ever happened tom prices get lower as technology advances. Anyone get the feeling we are being taken advantage of?

VVJ

07-01-2005, 02:13 PM

Here is what I've collected over the Internet:

http://online.com.ua/~jungle/brainscanfx57.gif

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-01-2005, 02:23 PM

Here is what I've collected over the Internet:

http://online.com.ua/~jungle/brainscanfx57.gif

:confused: Huh - maybe :am: what does this mean ? :confused: :confused:

:toast:

VVJ

07-01-2005, 02:31 PM

See the last 16 entries. It's difficult to find the valid Athlon 64 FX-57 pics with valid markings.

mad mikee

07-01-2005, 08:36 PM

Get big X :confused:

Dumo

07-01-2005, 08:57 PM

See the last 16 entries. It's difficult to find the valid Athlon 64 FX-57 pics with valid markings.VVJ, could you explained again? I tried to no avail....your instruction for amd power now!.. Thanks..

@HCC, I think 0512 and 0513 are the first batch to hit retail channels and probly no oem....

xcobra

07-01-2005, 11:00 PM

its all luck man...

VVJ

07-03-2005, 09:36 AM

Here is what I found out.

This AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 I found at AMDZONE.COM:

http://online.com.ua/~jungle/fx55_0516.gif

And this AMD Athlon 64 FX-57 is available in Japan stock now:

http://online.com.ua/~jungle/fx57_0516.gif

Now compare code matrixes of both processors and we will get the match of 74%! It’s a very high result for the processors which have different model numbers.

http://online.com.ua/~jungle/fx55_57.gif

So, as we see, AMD just remarks FX-57 to FX-55.

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-04-2005, 10:27 AM

:D Man I wish someone from AMD breakes the silence and tells us more about those mystic stepping codes.

:toast:

Vincentvega18

07-04-2005, 12:25 PM

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-04-2005, 01:38 PM

Yes but you can say that about a lot of things, like the 4000+ was just a remarked fx-53 or fx-55 etc, when processors are based on the same core its very difficult to determine the difference other than binning. So some of the fx-55 sandy's are just fx-57's that wouldnt do 100% stable testing @2.8 stock volts.

:D Yep - but I mean especally the XPMW - GPUW - RPMW stuff.

AMD labeles those letters not just for fun - but AFIK nobody knows what's behind the riddle...........

:toast:

Gryph

07-04-2005, 04:22 PM

It is all luck whether you get a good overclocking core or not. Certain steppings may have slightly better percentages of good over clockers. But I still think AMD is doing the price gouging right now. At they very most they should have priced the FX-57 at the old FX-55 level.

Gryph

urbanfox

07-04-2005, 04:49 PM

What are the exact details of the FX-57 cold bug?

onethreehill

07-04-2005, 05:33 PM

:D Yep - but I mean especally the XPMW - GPUW - RPMW stuff.

AMD labeles those letters not just for fun - but AFIK nobody knows what's behind the riddle...........

:toast:

This is part of the product date codes - see page 7

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/01_codes-packoptions_1.pdf

fatty

07-05-2005, 08:32 AM

and it is tested?

Sorry dont understand ??

its a retail boxed jobbie CABCE 0522XPMW still playing with it

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=25382

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-05-2005, 12:44 PM

This is part of the product date codes - see page 7

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/01_codes-packoptions_1.pdf

:D THX buddy - never knew this. Always thought it is a kind of secret quality classification........ :rolleyes:

:toast:

eddieate

07-05-2005, 12:58 PM

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-05-2005, 01:20 PM

there isin't much point in buying this chip is there the FX-55 San Diego is exactly the same but 200mhz slower or so i understand and if your gunna overclock it anyway.... or have i missed something here?
Ed

:D That's wrong mate - rumours even say the some FX-55 are relabled FX-57 which have failed the 2.8 GHz tests at stock voltage.....

So AMD is using their best of best silicone for these chips and the chances are high that it is OCable higher than a FX-55.

:toast:

s7e9h3n

07-05-2005, 05:36 PM

Poki

07-05-2005, 05:39 PM

May I ask what program are you using and how does it work?
It's the second program on this page CBId page (http://cbid.amdclub.ru/html/download.html)

s7e9h3n

07-05-2005, 05:43 PM

It's the second program on this page CBId page (http://cbid.amdclub.ru/html/download.html)
Thx Poki, now if only I could read the Russian instructions:poke:

Poki

07-05-2005, 05:45 PM

It's pretty simple proggy... Just scan a watermark and it gives the info... Pretty nice really.

Dumo

07-05-2005, 09:35 PM

Like these steppings?...

http://img190.echo.cx/img190/8739/immagine38gt.png
http://img178.echo.cx/img178/6510/fx0513mpmw4hi.jpg

Dumo

07-05-2005, 09:41 PM

But then again average fx55bn ocd with single phase is 3.45Ghz. FX57 so far can scale to 3.57Ghz and up :confused: Is there any micro codes difference(other than default) that made 57 ocd higher? Provided that both have the same die...

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-06-2005, 02:19 AM

Sucka

07-06-2005, 02:24 AM

Here's mine, seems very good so far.

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33713&stc=1

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-06-2005, 02:47 AM

Here's mine, seems very good so far.

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33713&stc=1

:confused: What is "very good so far"......?

:toast:

giorgioprimo

07-06-2005, 03:34 AM

Sorry dont understand ??

its a retail boxed jobbie CABCE 0522XPMW still playing with it

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=25382

Wich cooling please?

giorgioprimo

07-06-2005, 03:42 AM

Anybody knows if the little letter in the down-right corner of the pcb( I have N but saw some T and some N) make any sense in the quallity graduation?

Thanks

VVJ

07-06-2005, 03:45 AM

Hey Sucka, where is the serial number, man? :slapass:

http://online.com.ua/~jungle/restoredfx57pic.jpg

:D

Gamer

07-06-2005, 03:49 AM

just got mine, 0516 WPMW.

installing it later tonight.

mikead_99

07-06-2005, 04:46 AM

Gamer and Sucka you guys got the same stepping I got. I'll be keeping my eye on you, my phase change is down atm, not too much fun yet for me. :(

FWIW, that's the same stepping OPB had on his sick .09 FX-55, hope the 57's were binned better. I briefly had one of these in 55 too, but it was not nearly as good as OPB's, could be a sign they binned for 57.

Vincentvega18

07-06-2005, 05:04 AM

Got mine about 10 mins ago
adafx57daa5bn
cabce 0516wpmw
lets see if it flies

Gamer

07-06-2005, 08:30 AM

on air, not boxed cooling (expect a review from this cooler soon).

http://users.pandora.be/gamer/FX-57/3100.JPG

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-06-2005, 09:01 AM

:D Seems to be AMD's favorite stepping yet - here also 0516 / WPMW... :p:

:toast:

fatty

07-06-2005, 10:30 AM

I am using a mach2 gt regassed with R507 still stock head until I get my Chilly1 shipment in :toast: one guy got a chip same stepping same batch and his does 37someat
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=25815

Using an Asus mobo

waddupmm

07-06-2005, 11:07 AM

Hey Sucka, where is the serial number, man? :slapass:

http://online.com.ua/~jungle/restoredfx57pic.jpg

:D

I swear I said the exact same thing to him on aim lol

Vincentvega18

07-06-2005, 11:11 AM

Anyone got any prime-stable speeds yet?

Gamer

07-06-2005, 11:38 AM

did some tests on 3 ghz with S&M, stable....
no further tests yet.

Unrealcpu

07-06-2005, 12:16 PM

:D Seems to be AMD's favorite stepping yet - here also 0516 / WPMW... :p:

:toast:

I am afraid we have the same stepping LOLLOL

I have a FX55 BN and Dumo if you had a -90c cascade im sure you could scale past 3600mhz. Are you sure you didnt pay 200-300 more for a rebadged FX55?

Check this out

]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CSIG1001/FX55/IMG_6200.jpg

Unrealcpu

07-06-2005, 12:20 PM

:D That's wrong mate - rumours even say the some FX-55 are relabled FX-57 which have failed the 2.8 GHz tests at stock voltage.....

So AMD is using their best of best silicone for these chips and the chances are high that it is OCable higher than a FX-55.

:toast:

I believe this rumur now , look at my stepping above.

I can do 3500mhz and 3400 mhz easy on vapochill LS

Unrealcpu

07-06-2005, 12:21 PM

Here's mine, seems very good so far.

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33713&stc=1

Sucka look at my stepping above

I paid 820 for mine :)

Vincentvega18

07-06-2005, 12:53 PM

but we've seen 3.2 on air from the fx-57 ones, can yours do that?

Unrealcpu

07-06-2005, 01:16 PM

but we've seen 3.2 on air from the fx-57 ones, can yours do that?

I am sure it can. I wouldnt waste 200 dollars more on a FX57 unless it would give me 3500mhz stable in 3d on water

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CSIG1001/FX55asaFX57.jpg

Sucka

07-06-2005, 02:19 PM

:confused: What is "very good so far"......?

:toast:

Benching over 3500MHz. Seemed good to me for unmodded Mach II.

Sucka

07-06-2005, 02:20 PM

Hey Sucka, where is the serial number, man? :slapass:

:D

Pretty neat :stick:

Trying to keep an honest man honest i guess.

Sucka

07-06-2005, 02:22 PM

I swear I said the exact same thing to him on aim lol

He has one number wrong. Regardless, still pretty lame. Find something better to do with your time.

Sucka

07-06-2005, 02:23 PM

Sucka look at my stepping above

I paid 820 for mine :)

:clap:

xgman

07-06-2005, 02:26 PM

What could anyone possibly do with someone's amd serial #?

Unrealcpu

07-06-2005, 02:34 PM

What could anyone possibly do with someone's amd serial #?

I dont know, and i dont care. As long as you have your chip with your serial number and retail fan no one can do CRAP!

I think its funny people are hideing their serial numbers

s7e9h3n

07-06-2005, 02:34 PM

What could anyone possibly do with someone's amd serial #?
If somehow Sucka managed to fry his cpu while OC, and if AMD has "spies" :rolleyes: in the forum, his warranty would be automatically voided, i.e. NO RMA ;)

Unrealcpu

07-06-2005, 02:35 PM

:clap:

Sucka i can bench around 3500 and my max screen is 3550 so far. I am on a unmodded VAPOCHILL LS :D

s7e9h3n

07-06-2005, 02:36 PM

I dont know, and i dont care. As long as you have your chip with your serial number and retail fan no one can do CRAP!

I think its funny people are hideing their serial numbers
I hide my serials to protect my source @ AMD. The cpu's which I get aren't usually through retail channels and MAY be traced through the serial number. Better safe than sorry.....

Vincentvega18

07-06-2005, 03:05 PM

Yeah, thats a pretty good reason s7e9h3n, also nice post count. Unreal, is the 2.8 shot on air, its just i dont see any temps etc, not doubting just wondering.

Sucka

07-06-2005, 03:49 PM

Sucka i can bench around 3500 and my max screen is 3550 so far. I am on a unmodded VAPOCHILL LS :D

I'm very happy for you. I can bench higher than that and can max screen at 3.7 with 1.55v, what's your point? I don't think this thread has anything to do with your CPU, and certainly not an FX-55.

s7e9h3n

07-06-2005, 04:21 PM

I'm very happy for you. I can bench higher than that and can max screen at 3.7 with 1.55v, what's your point? I don't think this thread has anything to do with your CPU, and certainly not an FX-55.
So where do I fit into this mix? :p:
http://img167.echo.cx/img167/4749/579ob.jpg
http://img207.echo.cx/img207/848/325validated5su.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8586/fx1rs.jpg

[XC] leviathan18

07-06-2005, 04:26 PM

s7e9h3n that cpu of you doesnt count xD that is cheating

Unrealcpu

07-06-2005, 06:06 PM

If somehow Sucka managed to fry his cpu while OC, and if AMD has "spies" :rolleyes: in the forum, his warranty would be automatically voided, i.e. NO RMA ;)

LOL, I highly doubt that would ever happen. I have been overclocking for 7 years and i never heard once of that happening , so i cant believe that.

Unrealcpu

07-06-2005, 06:08 PM

I'm very happy for you. I can bench higher than that and can max screen at 3.7 with 1.55v, what's your point? I don't think this thread has anything to do with your CPU, and certainly not an FX-55.

Maybe your would perform better under a -90C cascade then. I suggest you upgrade :D

Sucka

07-06-2005, 06:10 PM

Maybe your would perform better under a -90C cascade then. I suggest you upgrade :D

I wish :toast: :p:

Unrealcpu

07-06-2005, 06:23 PM

I wish :toast: :p:

I MISS THIS CHIP WITH ALL MY HEART HAHAHA

IT WAS TRUELY A GAWD CHIP.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CSIG1001/FX55/DSCN2047.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CSIG1001/FX55/9.jpg

Dumo

07-06-2005, 10:13 PM

G H Z

07-06-2005, 10:16 PM

Is TPMW any good? If I read the AMD spec right the first letter is the day of week so how does X and R fit into that scheme?

Unrealcpu

07-07-2005, 05:10 AM

Now that everyone on this thread got their fx57/fx55bn...Lets see who will be the first to run it with -90C with high memory. OPP managed to run his fx57 with 230ish memory... ;) Good luck guys...remember dothan is ready and wating on the corner...smiling at us :toast:

-90C , i wont be upgrading my Vapochill LS anytime soon.

I would think Intel would be the way to go for -90c since intel loves cold. Oppainter said something about the memory controller slowing down when getting to a certain temp.

Hey dumo i should be getting some GSKILL GH today. 2 gigs worth. I will be testing them out today.

Gamer

07-07-2005, 06:25 AM

stock voltage, still air cooled.

http://users.pandora.be/gamer/FX-57/stock%20voltage.JPG

http://users.pandora.be/gamer/FX-57/gskill.JPG

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-07-2005, 06:34 AM

stock voltage, still air cooled.

http://users.pandora.be/gamer/FX-57/stock%20voltage.JPG

:confused: Isn't the stock voltage 1.4 or am I wrong ?

:toast:

Gamer

07-07-2005, 07:17 AM

nope, not on this mobo...
gona look it up.

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-07-2005, 07:20 AM

nope, not on this mobo...
gona look it up.

:confused: Didn't know that it is mobo related. BTW the NEO2 was my previous board and I never had a problem - but then was going for PCI-E.

:toast:

Gamer

07-07-2005, 07:40 AM

CPU Voltage = auto, can't lower it so ?

Epox 9NPA+ SLI.
got an order for a DFI.

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-07-2005, 07:50 AM

CPU Voltage = auto, can't lower it so ?

Epox 9NPA+ SLI.
got an order for a DFI.

:D Ah - that's it ! Do not set auto - set manually 1.4 and check the voltage.

On my DFI set 1.45 in BIOS is 1.39 real.

BTW in Your SIG the NEO2 is shown - do You have the EPOX ?

:toast:

Dumo

07-07-2005, 07:54 AM

-90C , i wont be upgrading my Vapochill LS anytime soon.

I would think Intel would be the way to go for -90c since intel loves cold. Oppainter said something about the memory controller slowing down when getting to a certain temp.

Hey dumo i should be getting some GSKILL GH today. 2 gigs worth. I will be testing them out today.Try it with Battlefield2 and bios 7.XX, you will like it :toast:

Gamer

07-07-2005, 07:56 AM

:D Ah - that's it ! Do not set auto - set manually 1.4 and check the voltage.

On my DFI set 1.45 in BIOS is 1.39 real.

BTW in Your SIG the NEO2 is shown - do You have the EPOX ?

:toast:

no option to lower it...

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-07-2005, 07:58 AM

no option to lower it...

:confused: No other option in EPOX BIOS than AUTO? Weird........ :stick:

:toast:

Gamer

07-07-2005, 09:26 AM

nope, just higher.

s7e9h3n

07-07-2005, 11:04 AM

Is TPMW any good? If I read the AMD spec right the first letter is the day of week so how does X and R fit into that scheme?
Hmmm....X and R?

Vincentvega18

07-07-2005, 12:07 PM

Ok, so your board is stock @1.5volts, try updating bios, maybe doesnt recognise the san diego properly. But anyhoo, your running the cpu @ .1volt above stock.

G H Z

07-07-2005, 12:50 PM

Hmmm....X and R?

Yeah,

XPMW, RPMW, UPMW

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-07-2005, 01:01 PM

:D At this point wanna say THX to all have voted. Showed me that most of U believe it's a matter of luck and helped me in my decision to buy one right now.

First results and updates in this thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67988

:toast:

s7e9h3n

07-07-2005, 01:26 PM

Yeah,

XPMW, RPMW, UPMW
Oh, ok: IIRC -
X = Saturday
R = Sunday

fatty

07-08-2005, 02:49 AM

Wooohoooo my chip was made on Saturday??? loool is that a good or a bad thing

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-08-2005, 03:53 AM

Wooohoooo my chip was made on Saturday??? loool is that a good or a bad thing

:D Hehe - maybe good cause the AMD employees were happy for the weekend.

Monday is bad - all still drunken from the weekend....... :p: :p: :p:

:toast:

HARDCORECLOCKER

07-14-2005, 06:41 AM

:D Fine - now that the poll is closed and most of U said it's a matter of luck it would be nice to post in here Your steppings, Vcore, cooling and max. clock.

Yet almost all FX-57 owners including myself got 0516 / WPMW and it would be interesting how upcoming different steppings will work.

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