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roybfr
06-26-2005, 08:28 PM
I have been reading up on water cooling, and I know most do not care for kits but as a first timer I just feel a little safer going that way. I know a lot of the kits are not that great but I have read some positive things about the Swiftech kits, and some of thier parts. I was wondering what would be a better starting kit the 120-FB or the 80-FK? I have a 4200+ on a DFI SLI-DR board. My case is a Coolmaster 710 so it is big enough to have the radiator inside.

I have some other questions but they are based on which set up would be prefered.

Thanks for any help.
SDX
06-26-2005, 09:42 PM
The 120 if you definitely want to go kit.

Post your system specs so we can help you out more.
MaxxxRacer
06-26-2005, 10:06 PM
go with the 120 kit.. 80mm rads are just about useless and it will end up being noiser.
roybfr
06-26-2005, 10:14 PM
There added it to my sig. I just plan on cooling the CPU for now, maybe the GPU/s later. I would like to see where I can get with the stock fan, then maybe get a better fan (or a 120mm adapter for the stock one) to see where that takes me prior to putting on the water so that I get an overal idea of the differnece it makes. I ran a few tests tonight and according to Smartguardian the idle was around 28-30c and during the tests it got up to about 38-39c so I have some place to start.

So as for the placement of the radiator. Should I place it in the front right behind the bottom fan so it gets some air moving across it?
MaxxxRacer
06-26-2005, 10:22 PM
as a general rule do NOT under any circumstances trust the motherboard to give you temperatuers. there is no way that ur cpu was at 38c load temps with the stock cooler. its just not possible with the amount of wattage it draws unless it was only working out one core.

If you want to discuss aircooling further, please make a thread in the aircooling section.
Sgt_Strider
06-27-2005, 12:06 AM
I'm interested in buying the H20 120 Revision 3 kit and I'm wondering which water block to buy? The water kit doesn't come with the water block for some odd reason so here are the two Swiftech blocks that I have my eyes on and they vary by $4 CAD:

http://www.ntcw.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=NTCW&Product_Code=HF-STMCW600064&Category_Code=STH2OWB

http://www.ntcw.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=NTCW&Product_Code=HF-STMCW600264&Category_Code=STH2OWB

What's the difference between the two? Btw, I'm planning to use this on a DFI NF4 Ultra-D.
MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 12:14 AM
http://www.ntcw.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=NTCW&Product_Code=HF-STMCW600064&Category_Code=STH2OWB

that the one u want. the fitting size is the only difference.
Sgt_Strider
06-27-2005, 12:17 AM
Thanks for the quick response. I'm just wondering if it's normal for the Swiftech H20 120 Revision 3 kit to not include a CPU water block?
MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 12:31 AM
its normal.
Sgt_Strider
06-27-2005, 12:38 AM
Also I guess the water block is actually the 6002 series and not 6000 since it accepts 1/2 OD while the 6000 only accepts 3/8 OD? Does the water cooling kit comes with a 1/2 tubes or 3/8? I'm curious...

Edit: I think you made a mistake with recommending me the 6000 or maybe not. Does the kit comes with 1/2 or 3/8 tubing?
Psyche911
06-27-2005, 01:13 AM
I think either. Check with wherever you want to order it from.
RaptorRaider
06-27-2005, 01:18 AM
AFAK your kit comes with 3/8'' ID, 1/2'' OD tubing; this means you should take the MCW6000.
MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 01:34 AM
the tubing is 3/8.... no mistake
roybfr
06-27-2005, 09:52 AM
So as for the placement of the radiator. Should I place it in the front right behind the bottom fan so it gets some air moving across it or should i put it out side of the case?
MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 01:31 PM
doesnt much matter, just make sure the fan is sucking air and not pushing air through the rad
Sgt_Strider
06-27-2005, 05:36 PM
the tubing is 3/8.... no mistake

If the tubing is 3/8, then how come that the WB from that link that you told me to buy from list it as 1/2 OD? That means in order for me to take advantage of the 1/2 OD of the 6002, I will need to replace the tubing as well?
MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 05:40 PM
the website that wrote the name of the product has their heads up their butts. the 6000 (which is what i linked you to) is 3/8OD. but they list it as 1/2OD. you can contact them if you like and let them know their mistake.
Sgt_Strider
06-27-2005, 05:44 PM
the website that wrote the name of the product has their heads up their butts. the 6000 (which is what i linked you to) is 3/8OD. but they list it as 1/2OD. you can contact them if you like and let them know their mistake.

Oh ok thanks.

So to use 1/2, then I would need to replace the tubing to take advantage of the 6002? Thanks.
MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 05:50 PM
yes and replace the pump and the res and the rad as they are all designed for 3/8
Sgt_Strider
06-27-2005, 06:07 PM
yes and replace the pump and the res and the rad as they are all designed for 3/8

Alright thanks for the information! Btw, do you have this kit? If I add a water block to the setup, would temperature goes up since the radiator would now have to cool heat from the CPU and the videocard?
Sgt_Strider
06-27-2005, 08:47 PM
In another thread you mentioned that there will be anno with the MCW50 WB. I'm just wondering will I have to worry about this with the Swiftech CPU WB as well? Or this is just with the videocard WB? I'm starting to think twice about purchasing it if it's going to bring me problems later on.
MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 09:07 PM
i dont have the kit. i just know all the parts that are in the kit.

i dont suggest cooling a modern gpu + cpu with this radiator. you would need to upgrade to a more powerful radiator to maintain good temps.

the mcw50 is aluminum and ano but the waterblock that i told you to get for the kit is NOT. it is pure copper so you wont have to worry about corrosion. and the radiator is copper with some brass.
Sgt_Strider
06-27-2005, 10:23 PM
i dont have the kit. i just know all the parts that are in the kit.

i dont suggest cooling a modern gpu + cpu with this radiator. you would need to upgrade to a more powerful radiator to maintain good temps.

the mcw50 is aluminum and ano but the waterblock that i told you to get for the kit is NOT. it is pure copper so you wont have to worry about corrosion. and the radiator is copper with some brass.

One last thing for now and that is how's the tubing in this kit? I heard you talking about this flexible type of tubing earlier and I'm not sure if I'm even spelling it correctly, tygon? Is this the type of tubing in the kit? Or I should consider replacing the included tubing for that?
MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 10:37 PM
I'm not sure whats in the kit but its of good quality and comes with coolsleeves so no worries. no need to replace it.

but i dont think its tygon
Sgt_Strider
06-28-2005, 12:16 AM
I'm just wondering, should I test the system for leaks before I install it or install the kit and then test for leaking? I was thinking of doing the former because if it does leak, at least it won't leak inside the case and destroy my computer equipment. However, I won't be able to find out how long my tubing should be...Btw, how long do you think my tubing should be if I am using an Antec SLK3000B case? Thanks.
MaxxxRacer
06-28-2005, 12:24 AM
pull out ur vid card (this is assuming u wont use a gpu block), mem and drives. then instal the watercoling system. u can turn it on by connecting the green and black wire from the psu. jsut remember to DISCONNECT all other components from the psu so there is no power going through the mobo and such.

this way u make sure that it will be the right lenght tubing and that u wont loosten any clamps getting it into the comp as its already there. works well this way.