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[]i9
06-25-2005, 09:13 PM
Hey.

Im trying to find the best way to watercool my 6600 GT without spending a friggin fortune.

Ive got a DD Maze4 GPU block, but since the mounting holes in the card are set at a 45 degree angle from the front edge of the card, the block sits facing the back of my case. Doesnt workout very well in my case. Ive seen the Koolance coolers made for the 6800s (I assume they fit the 6600 too) but they are pretty expensive. And the Danger Den 6800 cooler is out of the question.

Just curious if Im overlooking any other blocks or options.

thanks folks

idleuser
06-25-2005, 09:21 PM
the dangerden maze gpu block does work.. i know because i'[m using one but you would need the new mounting hardware for it because it comes with a back plate. The problem with the older maze4 gpu is that it bends the card when you tighten down the hardware fittings onto the videocard...

n00b 0f l337
06-25-2005, 09:22 PM
Got a picture of how this mounted? You could try make your own block as well. The new polarflo's with the clear tops are only like $40 at frozencpu.com and are universal I beleive.

[]i9
06-25-2005, 09:32 PM
the dangerden maze gpu block does work.. i know because i'[m using one but you would need the new mounting hardware for it because it comes with a back plate. The problem with the older maze4 gpu is that it bends the card when you tighten down the hardware fittings onto the videocard...


I didnt see new mounting hardware for sale on Danger Den's site. Any ide how to get it? Or is it just better to get a newer one?

MaxxxRacer
06-25-2005, 09:35 PM
i think u have to shave down one corner on the maze4 to get it to fit.

do u have the aluminum topped maze or the newer ones.

[]i9
06-25-2005, 09:40 PM
You know Im not sure on the top. Its been so long since Ive had it off. Its the black colored one, if that helps.

I can get it to fit on the card, but like you mentioned, it bends the card and it faces in an odd and difficult direction.

idleuser
06-25-2005, 09:46 PM
I bought a new block with the acetal block and it came with the mounting... its well worth the money and alot more lighter.. this is what happen as a result with corrosion with zerex in my loop after 6 months...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/spyd3rman/Watercooled%20Project/Picture015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/spyd3rman/Watercooled%20Project/Picture005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/spyd3rman/Watercooled%20Project/Picture006.jpg

[]i9
06-25-2005, 09:51 PM
ouch. I havent had any corrosion problems, thankfully. Do any of you guys have pics of your 6600s installed?

idleuser
06-25-2005, 09:54 PM
here are pictures of it installed

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/spyd3rman/Watercooled%20Project/Picture086.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/spyd3rman/Watercooled%20Project/Picture087.jpg

[]i9
06-25-2005, 09:56 PM
thx for that last pic idleuser.

Your block faces a different direction than mine. Yours is coming straight out. Mines goes at an angle back.

idleuser
06-25-2005, 09:57 PM
the problem with the orignal dd is that the orignal maze4 gpu design isnt all anadoized... if you look inside after removing the barb there is alumnium that was not anadoized only on some parts of the inside and outside... I checked both of the blocks when I still had the alumunium top and both of them are the same.

I believe you have the maze 3 gpu.

[]i9
06-25-2005, 10:18 PM
nah. Ive got the Maze 4

Ahh. Im seeing the difference. Ive got an XFX 6600 gt. The mounting holes run parallel with the edge of the card not at a 45 angle, like on yours. Your card mounts like my Radeon 9800 pro did. I didnt have a problem with that.

MaxxxRacer
06-25-2005, 10:47 PM
do you have any pictures of your mounting setup or the block?

[]i9
06-25-2005, 10:52 PM
um. not really. Ill do some product links if I can find some.

MaxxxRacer
06-25-2005, 11:11 PM
ok. id like to see what ur running. make it alot easier to help u with ur problem.

[]i9
06-25-2005, 11:13 PM
i9']um. not really. Ill do some product links if I can find some.


this would be my waterblock:
block (http://www.directron.com/maze4gpu38.html)

These are pics of the XFX 6600 GT. This is not the HSF that came with my card, but is similar in size. Its kind of hard to see in these pictures, but one mounting hole would be between the dogs legs, and the other would be just beside the yellow X on the left hand edge. card (http://www.nvnews.net/previews/geforce_6600_gt_agp/index.shtml)


So, if you line up a Maze4 on those holes, you can see what Im talking about with the block facing an odd direction.

MaxxxRacer
06-25-2005, 11:20 PM
I dont see any picture of hte card... nor a link

[]i9
06-25-2005, 11:22 PM
I dont see any picture of hte card... nor a link


fixed. sorry, Im an idiot

okay here we go, here's a pic that you can really see. This is the HSF that I have. card (http://www.computing.co.uk/articles/bigpicture/2138020)

frenzy_20
06-25-2005, 11:36 PM
The card you have is the 6600gt AGP version, it has the extra chip(cooled by the passive hs of to the side) to convert the PCI-X to agp. the heatsink on the AGP version is mounted at an angle compared to the PCI-X version that mounts even with the rest of the card. I don't know if you can make a water block fit on the AGP version or not.

[]i9
06-25-2005, 11:42 PM
The card you have is the 6600gt AGP version, it has the extra chip(cooled by the passive hs of to the side) to convert the PCI-X to agp. the heatsink on the AGP version is mounted at an angle compared to the PCI-X version that mounts even with the rest of the card. I don't know if you can make a water block fit on the AGP version or not.


ah. I can honestly say that Ive never even looked at the PCI-E version. That makes sense.

MaxxxRacer
06-26-2005, 12:08 AM
i looked at like 5 different pics of the agp version and it is just rotated from what i can see. (asshat nvidia) it still looks like the normal nvidia mounting scheme.. the really wide clips. there are several places to put the allthread in the bottom of the maze4 waterblock. try a few different ones. u should be able to get it to fit on there.

[]i9
06-26-2005, 12:13 AM
Im sorrry, I guess I didnt explain very well. Its not that the cooler doesnt bolt on, its that the hose routing is impossible because the cooler faces the back of the case, only inches from the back of the case.

I actually did have this installed at one time, but couldnt put the side of my case back on without collapsing my lines. And my even trying chipped the core and ruined my first one of these.

MaxxxRacer
06-26-2005, 12:25 AM
ic... shoulda got a x700pro AGP after the first hassle.. DOH!

hmm.. well that is a dillema... well maybe time for some case hacking... or u can use 3/8 tubing with coolsleves for hte gpu waterblock.. that should bring the bend radius down ALOT

[]i9
06-26-2005, 07:23 AM
Im thinking maybe just get the PolarFlo block. It spins on its base and I think that tah would do it.

thanks a lot for the thoughts and such.

MaxxxRacer
06-26-2005, 11:53 AM
i dont suggest it. the polarflo block uses a mix of copper and aluminum which is most certainly dangerous to your system due to galvanic corrosion.

Pessimisten
06-26-2005, 12:42 PM
i dont suggest it. the polarflo block uses a mix of copper and aluminum which is most certainly dangerous to your system due to galvanic corrosion.Not the new with acrylic tops
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-blc-201.html
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-blc-199.html
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-blc-202.html

[]i9
06-26-2005, 01:07 PM
i dont suggest it. the polarflo block uses a mix of copper and aluminum which is most certainly dangerous to your system due to galvanic corrosion.


Doesnt the older Maze4 have the same problem? I havent had any corrosion problems with my setup and Ive been running for almost a year now.

Pessimisten
06-26-2005, 01:32 PM
i9']Doesnt the older Maze4 have the same problem? I havent had any corrosion problems with my setup and Ive been running for almost a year now.You are right, the old maze4 has the problem with corrosion that's why Maxxxracer and about everybody else always recommends that you buy the new block with acetal top or just replace the old top with the new acetal top if you already have the block.

[]i9
06-26-2005, 01:36 PM
Then Im not really worried about the corrosion problem.
I cracked my Maze open about a month ago, after having run it for about 9 months straight, and had no hint of corrosion. Didnt have any in my Whitewater or Maze chipset b lock either.

MaxxxRacer
06-26-2005, 10:28 PM
just warning you... ull come back one day with horrible corrosion problems and I will have nothing to say but "I told you so". I know it sounds a bit mean but it is the truth..

and btw i do not reccomend acrylic tops either. they hare a horrible tendency to crack. The only suitable tops are acetl, copper, and brass. anything of the other commonly used tops to waterblocks are just asking for trouble.

idleuser
06-26-2005, 11:11 PM
I am now a believer of only brasstop, copper or acetal :) corrosion owned me hard!

MaxxxRacer
06-26-2005, 11:20 PM
"Just becuase it hasnt happend to you yet, doesnt mean it won't"

I say take the proacitve approach and get rid of the aluminum.

[]i9
06-27-2005, 09:34 AM
I appreciate your concern. Unfortunately I have no choice in the matter. Its either this waterblock in the arylic, which I dont want due to the cracking, or the aluminum version.

If someone else decides to make a waterblock that fits this card, Ill be happy to look into it, but the only one I can find is the Innovatek, and it runs $130, which Im not going to do.

So, I guess thats that.

Sgt_Strider
06-27-2005, 05:51 PM
Why don't you try the Swiftech MCW50? Will this water block fit the XFX Geforce 6600 GT PCI-E? Cuz that's what I have too and I would like to add that to my setup if I can.

MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 06:07 PM
mcw50 is a very poor choice as it uses aluminum top which has anno that seems to come off fairly quickly.

Sgt_Strider
06-27-2005, 06:22 PM
mcw50 is a very poor choice as it uses aluminum top which has anno that seems to come off fairly quickly.

Anno? What's that? I don't seem to understand what you just said. It's interesting that you mention that because Oppainter uses those WB's on his 7800 GTX setup?

What do you recommend to go with the Swiftech H20 120 Revision 3 WC kit?

MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 07:23 PM
ya I know opp uses those waterblock. they were given to him so he doesnt much care. Besides opp doesnt know much of anything about watercooling so he most likely doesnt know that the aluminum in those blocks will cause galvanic corrosion.

anno = anodization. its the blue stuff al over the inside and outside of the waterblock. it wears off on the inside allowing the aluminum to react with the copper in a galvanic corrosion reaction.

EDIT: for gpu block jsut get the maze4 gpu. Make sure to get the acetl or brass top.

[]i9
06-27-2005, 07:24 PM
Why don't you try the Swiftech MCW50? Will this water block fit the XFX Geforce 6600 GT PCI-E? Cuz that's what I have too and I would like to add that to my setup if I can.


Ive got the AGP version anyway. Wouldnt help me.

[]i9
06-27-2005, 07:29 PM
BTW, is the Tygon tubing that much better than standard vinyl? I ordered a little bit of in hopes it would help with my tubing problem on my setup.

Just curious

MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 07:44 PM
its very good stuff. never dealt with super cheapo vinyl tubing but it does have a better bend radius than any other tubing on the market.

timpanogos
06-27-2005, 08:22 PM
sorry, off topic, but after seeing that corrosion picture, how often should I tear down my cpu water block and flush/clean my system?

MaxxxRacer
06-27-2005, 08:47 PM
that wont help you... it will only speed up the process.