Radiator in a refrigerator

[Bourne]

Ok....so I've been using Asetek Waterchill on a AMD-FX53 with the Antartica block and on a 6800 Ultra AGP8 with the D.D. NV68 for a while.
It's driven by the Waterchill L30 pump and cooled by the Black Ice Pro triple rad.
Temps are ok 30-34 idle and 37-40 load @ 2600mhz, 260mhz x 10. 1.53vcore.
These results (O.C.) aren't the bests ones we've seen and It's mainly because of the Asus A8V D junk that I was forced to buy when I gave up on waiting for DFI, so I will soon switch to PCI-e 7800 GTX and the DFI landparty.

Ok now I'll get to the point, Is it a good idea to have like a small refrigerator and store the rad in there with a few coke botles, and do you guys think it would be loud, because you know I like 'em silent :)

Sorry for any typos.. I'm not an American user !

[MaxxxRacer]

Bourne, let me be the first to welcome you to XtremeSystems, where we kill our hardware with Xtreme effeciency.

the small friges dont have all the heat load capacity to cool a radiator. it wil overload the frig.

[YanBooth]

Bourne, let me be the first to welcome you to XtremeSystems, where we kill our hardware with Xtreme effeciency.


LOL!

After letting this sit for about 10 mins, IDK what to say...

yan

[MaxxxRacer]

lol.. its my official greeting.. but its so true.. last night my friend blew up his FX55, his utlra d and his neo2.. all within 15 minutes.

[K.I.T.T.]

lol.. its my official greeting.. but its so true.. last night my friend blew up his FX55, his utlra d and his neo2.. all within 15 minutes.

ROFL :ROTF:

I remember that line.......you said it to me too :D

BTW, ive blown a P4 640 last month.......:D too much vcore lol

[timpanogos]

I've been eyeing some of those cool copper tubes!! I assume they are REAL effiecent!

[Bourne]

What kind of fridge do you think could be silnet (of course somtimes noise) but could just handle a FX-53 and a 6800 Ultra ?

I'm also thinking of pumping cold water directly into the the block and skip the rad.

[Special_K]

you need to check the Chilled Liquid Cooling (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=155) section for that Bourne - it has all your answers there =]

[n00b 0f l337]

You could build an a/c to watercool that works well and its easy, but not completely silent. The only way to get good performance too kill that would be 2 seperate loops.

Loop 1

--> Pump --> CPU --> BIX3 --> T-line --> Pump

Loop 2

--> Pump --> GPU --> BIX2 --> T-line --> Pump


Then for all your fans find 120mm fans with the most air flow and the maximum amount of noise... Then put them on 5 volt rail. Silent with good performance.

[Bourne]

You could build an a/c to watercool that works well and its easy, but not completely silent. The only way to get good performance too kill that would be 2 seperate loops.

Loop 1

--> Pump --> CPU --> BIX3 --> T-line --> Pump

Loop 2

--> Pump --> GPU --> BIX2 --> T-line --> Pump


Then for all your fans find 120mm fans with the most air flow and the maximum amount of noise... Then put them on 5 volt rail. Silent with good performance.

Do you know the DB level of a tornado in 5v....I'm using the Stock Sunon fans at 7v It's very silent, 12v is to noisy.

[MaxxxRacer]

just stick with ur sunons at 7 volts. its probable that they will push more air at 7v than the tornandos will at 5

bourne, if your still got your heart on that minifridge, as i said before its NOT going to work. there have been ppl on the forums who tried it with COOLER running systems and the fridge overheated... it will do the same thing with ur setup too.. just faster..

[Bourne]

Ok. thx
I think I will just conect the tubes directly Into the waterline and pump 1-5°C water onto the blocks
.....the watersupplysystem (dont know you guys call it) in my house is just behind a wall in the room I stay in so it would be easy and cold water is almoust free here.

[MaxxxRacer]

lol.. interesting idea... ur gonna get some nasty deposits in ur waterblock though.

[Bourne]

The Water here is almoust pure, no chlorine and stuff...and It would always be running.

[MaxxxRacer]

ya... i figured as much.. ull still get deposits... that is unless you got a desalinization tank running in ur house.. but i doubt u got one.. and even if u did it couldnt keep up with ur pump running 24/7

[Bourne]

ya... i figured as much.. ull still get deposits... that is unless you got a desalinization tank running in ur house.. but i doubt u got one.. and even if u did it couldnt keep up with ur pump running 24/7

I dont think I'll need a pump just constant flow....
there is almoust no difference between this water and distilled water...

And one more thing I dont know what deposits and desalinization tank meens
:)

[MaxxxRacer]

thats ok man...

[YanBooth]

I dont think I'll need a pump just constant flow....
there is almoust no difference between this water and distilled water...

And one more thing I dont know what deposits and desalinization tank meens
:)

Deposits would be from minerals in the water building up, and a desalinization tank is for removing those minerals (I think that is correct).

Yan

[Bourne]

OK....but as I said the water is hopfully the water is pure enough...
Mabey it could just check on it once in a month and see if things are in order ;)

[LFATB]

I wish I had my own well, bu t I live in the city, no option for that for me.

[Bourne]

Yepp....pretty funny comming to America.....the coke(the drink) is horrable....and most drinks....because of the water....and well I'm used to being able to drink from the sink :)

[YanBooth]

Yepp....pretty funny comming to America.....the coke(the drink) is horrable....and most drinks....because of the water....and well I'm used to being able to drink from the sink :)
I live off well water, and it is pretty good stuff. I do also have a purification system for drinking water, but the tap is fine.

Yan

[LFATB]

The water in my town is especially horrible. It smells like dead fish, can't see through it when you put it in a glass and has always failed inspection.

[Turok]

Ok....so I've been using Asetek Waterchill on a AMD-FX53 with the Antartica block and on a 6800 Ultra AGP8 with the D.D. NV68 for a while.
It's driven by the Waterchill L30 pump and cooled by the Black Ice Pro triple rad.
Temps are ok 30-34 idle and 37-40 load @ 2600mhz, 260mhz x 10. 1.53vcore.
These results (O.C.) aren't the bests ones we've seen and It's mainly because of the Asus A8V D junk that I was forced to buy when I gave up on waiting for DFI, so I will soon switch to PCI-e 7800 GTX and the DFI landparty.

Ok now I'll get to the point, Is it a good idea to have like a small refrigerator and store the rad in there with a few coke botles, and do you guys think it would be loud, because you know I like 'em silent :)

Sorry for any typos.. I'm not an American user !

Im a bit late here.

I just wanted to say that I wouldnt update to a 7800 GTX until the 7800 Ultra and the x900 line come out.
Looks too expensive now, the peformance increase isnt that great, and they dont OC very good.

[Bourne]

Jepp....U got a point I was actully thinking about this....
I will perhaps wait.....ATi Said X900 would have triple performance over X800 XT.
But the thing is my father works a lot in the US and when he goes there I sometimes ask him to pick up stuff becouse a 7800 GTX is at 1100$ here.
So when someone I know goes there I got use the opportunity :)

[(sin)morpheus]

Im a bit late here.

I just wanted to say that I wouldnt update to a 7800 GTX until the 7800 Ultra and the x900 line come out.
Looks too expensive now, the peformance increase isnt that great, and they dont OC very good.

I thought they OCd really nicely, it looks like OPP got some good results with them. :confused:

[Bourne]

It's OC-ed better than 6800 Ultra....but same as 6800 GT

[Turok]

I thought they OCd really nicely, it looks like OPP got some good results with them. :confused:

well, it has a cold bug if you ever want to chill it.

I wouldnt rush myself on buying this card when nVidia and ATI are waiting on whos going to be the first to throw their flagship card. The specs on the 7800 Ultra and x900 look a lot more impressive with those 36 pipes. Could be a huge bump in peformance since its 1/3 more pipelines, 512mb, and higher clock speeds

[One_Hertz]

well, it has a cold bug if you ever want to chill it.

I wouldnt rush myself on buying this card when nVidia and ATI are waiting on whos going to be the first to throw their flagship card. The specs on the 7800 Ultra and x900 look a lot more impressive with those 36 pipes. Could be a huge bump in peformance since its 1/3 more pipelines, 512mb, and higher clock speeds

*32 pipes I think

[Bourne]

24 actully

[YanBooth]

Its 32, and the X900 (best model at least) has GDDR4 memory...

Yan

[Bourne]

Is there anyone who has a link.....and is it not know when it will been launced ?

[YanBooth]

http://freespace.virgin.net/m.warner/RoadmapQ305.htm#ATI%20R520

Best roadmap site...

[aca]

I think I will just conect the tubes directly Into the waterline and pump 1-5°C water onto the blocks
But wouldn't this lead to condensation???
Bourne, what's your room temperature? Can't be that cold in there! :)

[LFATB]

24 actully

I Think he is referring to the 7800 Ultra, current GTX cards are 24, although they may be the same as current cards, just faster with more memory.

[saratoga]

Its 32, and the X900 (best model at least) has GDDR4 memory...

Yan

Whats the difference between 3 and 4?

[MaxxxRacer]

guys... stay on topic...

[YanBooth]

Good point, sorry.

Yan

[Bourne]

But wouldn't this lead to condensation???
Bourne, what's your room temperature? Can't be that cold in there! :)

I'm not getting what you meen
:confused:

...and Maxxxracer.....I asked around and people said desalinization tank was not needed.... pure Water :)

[aca]

I mean... if your water temperature is lower than your room temperature there's gonna be condensation on your tubing and around waterblocks and elsewhere... You know... drops of water... not good for your hardware in the case. :)

Just not sure how much lower water tep needs to be in order for the condensation to occur. Also humidity has affect on it. Greater humidity - less temp difference needed for condensation to occur.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here... or please give some more details on temp difference regarding condensation.

[Special_K]

aca - you are referring to the 'dew-point'

this is the temperature at which the atmosphere at a given pressure cannot retain the water-vapour and condences into water-droplets

you can usually find out what the dew-point for any given day is from the weather forecast

[aca]

aca - you are referring to the 'dew-point'

this is the temperature at which the atmosphere at a given pressure cannot retain the water-vapour and condences into water-droplets

you can usually find out what the dew-point for any given day is from the weather forecast

You mean I could calculate the dew point if I know the temperature and humidity for a given day? Or weather forecasts already give the dew point?

thanx

[Bourne]

Of course I will of course isolate the blocks and the tubing :slap:

[MaxxxRacer]

btw how cold is the water and what is ur room temp?

you guys must have some really good water to not need any tretment right from the tap. i know around here you need to filter itl ike 10 times to get it clean.

[Bourne]

My room temp is 20°C+- and the water is 8-4°C but 5°C and lower if it is running for a long time.....
and yes the Icelandic water is know for being the purest in the world.

[MaxxxRacer]

wow... well 4C is about as cold as the water willl get before it starts to get less dense. if you can hold the water at 4C thats great as water is as dense as it gets at 4C and will transfer heat slightly better than if the water will a little colder or a little warmer. though the differences are very slight...

I'd say you will need to do some condensation proofing on the tubing and probably the block if your going to be running water that is that cold...

And I wasnt aware u were in iceland.. I know of icelandic water.. From what i hear it is pretty amazing stuff.

btw, beautiful country. would love to visit there sometime. home to the worlds first hydrogen gas station.

[Bourne]

Yeah....you're welcome anytime ;) ......just dont bring skis along...
You have to go a long way to find some snow....
You see the the vikings were just drunk when they found it :)

[MaxxxRacer]

ya i know.. iceland is green, greenland is icy...

retarded vikings.. they must have been hopped up on some drugs when they named the two islands.

[Pessimisten]

ya i know.. iceland is green, greenland is icy...

retarded vikings.. they must have been hopped up on some drugs when they named the two islands.Hey, don't talk trash about my ancestors :nono: They may be drunks and a violent people but not retarded

[MaxxxRacer]

lol. well if it makes you feel any better the vikings are ancestors to just about half of the cocasion races there are right now. so dont worry too much.

but iceland does have one thing very iniquie about it. you can trace the blood lines of ppl back for more than a thousand years, and get a huge family tree that goes back almost to when the vikings landed there.

[Bourne]

Yeah....but the best part is the Coke (Cola) :) .....
Chosen best coke in the world for many years...

What is also fun is that they are making many movies here now....big part og Batman Begins and Clint Eastwood is beginning shooting here an epic war scene

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman_begins/_group_photos/christian_bale2.jpg

No the best shot though...

[aca]

What do you use for isolating tubes and blocks?
Any pictures?

[Bourne]

No not yet...sorry I think I will just start this project when X900 arrives and I change mobo into DFI....The Asus A8V D is brutal.

[MaxxxRacer]

for insulation you use neorpene.

if u want more info go to the phase change forum. you'll find more inf on insulating stuff than you can shake a stick at

[Bourne]

Isn't that a little bit to mutch for a 5°C water ?