MSI K8N Neo2 Pt 1.95b bios!!!!

[dexth77]

Hey Guys,
HOT out from the oven, MSI K8N Neo2 bios 1.95b beta i guess. Anybody tried? Source from MSI german site (http://www.msi-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=17206&hilight=1+9b5). Havent read what's the changes. Heads up.
Dont read German, so not sure if this is the E3/E4 support bios. Anybody?
:)

[terror_adagio]

The whole structure of the BIOS is new, thus I do believe this is an official Venice/San Diego/X2 BIOS.

But it is BETA.

[CD 1986]

I'll try it as soon as my board gets back from RMA! :D

And look, some more memory timing options!!! :toast:

[P_1]

seems like there is no cpu multiplier in this one tho

[Huigie]

seems like there is no cpu multiplier in this one tho

What a pos...

/me has had it with this mobo and bought a DFI LP UT Ultra-D today...

[dexth77]

I'll try it as soon as my board gets back from RMA! :D

And look, some more memory timing options!!! :toast:


CD,
How did you get to that screen without mobo? Will this sstill use the same flash utility? Is the 1T/2T selectable now (for SD)?

thx.

[Zeus...]

Nice find - flashed and trying it out :cool:

[dexth77]

Nice find - flashed and trying it out :cool:

Pls report back on findings :)
will be falshing once get back from work in 3 hrs time ....cant wait.

[CD 1986]

Used modbin6 in windows to view the bios layout. Yes, you can still use the same flash utility, and i believe 1T / 2T is selectable now.

As for the CPU multiplier issue, it is a BETA only remember, its the first beta release for a newly programmed (from scratch) bios...do you expect it to be perfect on the 1st attempt? :) There are also issues with selecting memory dividers higher than 200.

[Highland3r]

Here's to hoping MSI get it right this time around! Looking at the memory options, this could be a goodun!

[Zeus...]

On 1.7 & 1.8 primes large FTT failed 10 - 15 mins @2600MHz any Vcpu 1:1
could only get 24hr prime @2500

But been running 2600MHz 1:1: for 1hr 26mins CPU-z core voltage 1.45V
mem 1T 2.5 4 4 7

So its better but need time to test - Time for bed - its late

C how it primes and try for higher tomorrow is prime still running when home from work

Edit typo

[dexth77]

On 1.7 & 1.8 primes large FTT failed 10 - 15 mins @2600MHz any Vcpu 1:1
could only get 24hr prime @2500

But been running 2600MHz 1:1: for 1hr 26mins CPU-z core voltage 1.45V
mem 1T 2.5 4 4 7

So its better but need time to test - Time for bed - its late

C how it primes and try for higher tomorrow is prime still running when home from work

Edit typo


Sounds good so far :D

[P_1]

also is cas 1.5 selectable in this bios?

[dexth77]

got it up and running using this bios along sd3700+. no multi, voltage option is limited to selectable numbers without the usual % increment, however is the bios reading/mbm is correct, it fluctuates terribly; ie. 1.65v bios set will only read 1.5v; 1.7v reads 1.55v. Not sure if this is a reading bug or anything, but i'm being careful and setting it to 1.65 bios just incase. Dont wanna fry my chip :nono:
Testing continues........

[dexth77]

also is cas 1.5 selectable in this bios?

Nope.

[D3kMatrix]

I put these 2 BIOS's on my web server so everyone wouldn't have to make an account on the German MSI forums to download them. Plus I need to use up some server bandwidth :P

Ver 1.9 Beta Build 5 (http://www.msi.sploitz.com/NEO2%20P%20BIOS%20v1.9%20Beta%20Build%205%20Beta/)
Ver 1.9 Beat Build 5 Modded (http://www.msi.sploitz.com/NEO2%20P%20BIOS%20v1.9%20Beta%20Build%205%20Modded/)

And ALL of the BIOS's here (http://www.msi.sploitz.com/)

[nfm]

I tried it with my system in my sig. System posted fine, so pressed DEL button to get into the BIOS and it froze on blinking cursor, so I restarted and same thing, I was like wtf? Then it said "CMOS Checksum error" I restarted my system like 50 more and once I was able to go into the BIOS. Men, this BIOS is not like v1.8 and lower, settings are in different places ect. Then I wanted to check PC Health, system read cpu temp. = 224C :D and then BIOS froze. This was the end of exploring new BIOS. Ok, now system recovery (because I could got further with system till system post) I flashed v1.36Mod in DOS, restarted, and my pc went crazy. Pc was beeping, beeping and beeping :yawn:, I cleared CMOS twice after flashing and it did the trick. now system is back :p:

FLASH THIS BIOS ONLY IF YOU HAVE SOME BALLS :D

[D3kMatrix]

need.for.mhz if u cleared ur cmos right after u flashed to 1.9 it probably would of been fine.

[nfm]

need.for.mhz if u cleared ur cmos right after u flashed to 1.9 it probably would of been fine.

Did that 3 times after 1.9b5 flash. It was the modded one. maybe the normal one could be fine. This BIOS isn't just stable yet on my system

btw, I flashed it with MIS's winflash, maybe I will try normal one not modded and flash it in DOS mode

[turok_t]

Guys, i have a question to ask u, and u guys probably know beacause u guys are the experts.. Im using a 3700 San Diego with the Neo 2 platinum. For some reason when i try to turn on my computer, nothing is on my screen. There is only a green blinking light on my monitor, so i think ithe monitor is not getting any signal. I tried replacing the RAM with another stick that i know it works, i tried replacing the video card and the monitor, and still, i get that stupid black screen. I took it to the shop and they said they flashed the bios to the newest one ( wasnt sure if they were lying or not), but my system still isn't posting! what should i do??!?! im soo frustrated with my new system.. My system specs are listed below


AMD 3700+ San Diego
MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum
OCZ DDR400 2 x 512 MB Platinum Rev 2.0
BFG 6800OC
WD 200GB SATA
OCZ PowerStream 520

[Absolute_0]

Guys, i have a question to ask u, and u guys probably know beacause u guys are the experts.. Im using a 3700 San Diego with the Neo 2 platinum. For some reason when i try to turn on my computer, nothing is on my screen. There is only a green blinking light on my monitor, so i think ithe monitor is not getting any signal. I tried replacing the RAM with another stick that i know it works, i tried replacing the video card and the monitor, and still, i get that stupid black screen. I took it to the shop and they said they flashed the bios to the newest one ( wasnt sure if they were lying or not), but my system still isn't posting! what should i do??!?! im soo frustrated with my new system.. My system specs are listed below


AMD 3700+ San Diego
MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum
OCZ DDR400 2 x 512 MB Platinum Rev 2.0
BFG 6800OC
WD 200GB SATA
OCZ PowerStream 520

SD and Venice are supposed to work with 1.36 and higher bios for MSI Neo2. I was running my Venice with the 1.5 bios and it worked fine, and it certainly works with the 1.8 bios. If they truly flashed the bios to the latest (1.8) then it should be working fine. How did they flash it if it doesn't turn on? Did they use another CPU while they were flashing? Maybe your chip is bad, unlikely though.

[Zeus...]

On 1.7 & 1.8 primes large FTT failed 10 - 15 mins @2600MHz any Vcpu 1:1
could only get 24hr prime @2500

But been running 2600MHz 1:1: for 1hr 26mins CPU-z core voltage 1.45V
mem 1T 2.5 4 4 7

So its better but need time to test - Time for bed - its late

C how it primes and try for higher tomorrow is prime still running when home from work

Edit typo

stopped with errror after 2hr 16 mins

up the Vcpu and off to work

[Absolute_0]

so Zeus, it seems slightly more overclockable so far? Hmm, will have to do some serious consideration about getting that DFI board or not...

[mikael999]

#20 .

I have allmost same prob as you until i found out that on neo2 boards the ram sticks must be placed Green-Purple not Green-Green :D

But i still got many issues with my neo2 plat. I run Super PI 1M on 45 sec's :o

And the cpu wont clock above 2300 MhZ , :( It isn't the cpu because i was at the shop 2day and i got a new cpu, Still the same prob.. :,(

In the weekend i try the cpu on a friends board. If it runs on he's board i'll send the mobo 2 RMA

[Zeus...]

Cpu 1.5volts (reported by CPU-z) failed in 1hr 16 mins :mad:

so will try at STD volts - after all could only get this Venice stable (prime 24hr) at 2500Mhz 1:1 with a CPU 1.3V (reported by CPU-z) anything above STD it failed

But it does seem to be more stable than 1.7 or 1.8 IMHO

[Zeus...]

Failed 33mins at 1.36V cpu 2600MHz mem 1:1 :mad:

just set to 1.7V in bios CPU-z reads 1.552V - prime running

(I should off retested the mem etc for stability but I have taken it for granted that it is fine, as it pass memtest 12hr+ at same timmings and Up to 270HTT 1:1 so I am cutting corners a bit! Just entered the values which A64Tweaker gave for the mem at the stable mem speed into the new bios mem screen )

[Zeus...]

Failed 11mins :(

[Absolute_0]

Zeus seems like prime is being a beatch, use something else to test stability, SP32M

[Garrett]

I put these 2 BIOS's on my web server so everyone wouldn't have to make an account on the German MSI forums to download them. Plus I need to use up some server bandwidth :P

Ver 1.9 Beta Build 5 (http://www.msi.sploitz.com/NEO2%20P%20BIOS%20v1.9%20Beta%20Build%205%20Beta/)
Ver 1.9 Beat Build 5 Modded (http://www.msi.sploitz.com/NEO2%20P%20BIOS%20v1.9%20Beta%20Build%205%20Modded/)

And ALL of the BIOS's here (http://www.msi.sploitz.com/)And the "modded" part... what exactly is modded?

For now I'm sticking with divider 100 and A64tweaker startup settings :thumbsup:

[Zeus...]

Zeus seems like prime is being a beatch, use something else to test stability, SP32M

Agree - but IMHO it needs to be as it sorts out the high clocks and the stable high clocks - dont want to spend too much time testing as its only a beta bios and I am aiming for higher than 2.6Ghz and the DFI agp is out too

Just ran memtest86 it failed at the mem settings but off cousre it would - No CPU multipler adjustment :wasntme:

Oh well time to go back to 1.8

Absolute_0 check your pm set u one yesterday :)

[Zeus...]

Just took the mem down to 1T 2.5 4 4 11 was 1T 2.5 3 3 7

still at 1:1 260HTT and passed memtest86 one pass let it do a couple more and retry prime if it passes

[dexth77]

just set to 1.7V in bios CPU-z reads 1.552V - prime running


Same here with the voltage, why would it fluctuates so much? My SD 3700+ max oc at 1.55v 11x249. Needs 1.65v for 11x253...guess i'll stick with 1.55v for now.

[Zeus...]

Just took the mem down to 1T 2.5 4 4 11 was 1T 2.5 3 3 7

still at 1:1 260HTT and passed memtest86 one pass let it do a couple more and retry prime if it passes

passed three times got CPU-z showing 1.45V (as thats what I got the longest run on prime with at tighter mem timmings)

Prime (large FTT0 runing) frag a bit as well for good measure :)

[Zeus...]

Just failed prime after 1hr 48 min going back to 1.8 :(

[waiho2k1]

Unfortunately I think this beta bios is not good for overclocking can't go above 270HTT, and it's problematic itself as well.... my USB mouse stops working at flash this bios (my USB keyboard works fine). I'm now using back 1.37mod, running at 275HTT X 10 now

[One_Hertz]

woa my sistem wouldn't post at ALL :stick: . yeah do not flash if you are not sure that you can fix that. I've got a 3800+ and 4000VX sticks. Cmos reset... :rolleyes:

[harpyboy]

Unfortunately I think this beta bios is not good for overclocking can't go above 270HTT, and it's problematic itself as well.... my USB mouse stops working at flash this bios (my USB keyboard works fine). I'm now using back 1.37mod, running at 275HTT X 10 now

im able to run at 306HTT with this BIOS as well as the 1.8 .... so it doesn't seem to hinder any OC... it didn't give me more OC either..

the usb mouse thing i had experienced since bios 1.7... just unplug the mouse and put it in.... (it works for me at least :) )......

for people like me... this is the first chance where i can dump A64 tweaker...

[waiho2k1]

im able to run at 306HTT with this BIOS as well as the 1.8 .... so it doesn't seem to hinder any OC... it didn't give me more OC either..

the usb mouse thing i had experienced since bios 1.7... just unplug the mouse and put it in.... (it works for me at least :) )......

for people like me... this is the first chance where i can dump A64 tweaker...
Do you mean running HTT and RAM at 1:1? Mine can go up to 320HTT with memory clock set at 166MHz....... but of course what I mean and what I want is running at 1:1 above 270HTT with 2 X 512MB (Gskill LE)

[TMM]

:woot: :woot:

What CPU voltages can this bios do?.

Also is there the 183mhz mem(i think its 183..) option in the bios?

[harpyboy]

Do you mean running HTT and RAM at 1:1? Mine can go up to 320HTT with memory clock set at 166MHz....... but of course what I mean and what I want is running at 1:1 above 270HTT with 2 X 512MB (Gskill LE)

oh sorry, mine is running with 200:133 and 200:166 divider.... which is the main focus hit of this BIOS.....

[harpyboy]

:woot: :woot:

What CPU voltages can this bios do?.

Also is there the 183mhz mem(i think its 183..) option in the bios?

CPU up to 1.6v via BIOS... heard someone got it to 1.7V with corecenter

there aren't ay 183 divider in the BIOS.... but there are 216,233,250 dividers which doesn't work

[DeNs]

so Zeus, it seems slightly more overclockable so far? Hmm, will have to do some serious consideration about getting that DFI board or not...

Well i'll be getting an Ultra-D in addition to getting this one, so i'll defenitely be doing some comparisons when I get the DFI board.

Looks like a few things need to be cleared up, so I might think twice before flashing it tonight.

---dens

[waiho2k1]

And one more thing, where does the multiplier of CPU go? I can't find anything in the bios which allows me to change the multiplier...

[TMM]

if you read the thread you would know that there is no multi adjustment yet :stick:

[harpyboy]

And one more thing, where does the multiplier of CPU go? I can't find anything in the bios which allows me to change the multiplier...

go into windows and use clockgen to set the multiplier... it will stay for as long as until u clear CMOS...

as said.. this BIOS truely isn't for 24/7 uses.... we had better wait for the next build or the final release....

[tictac]

And the "modded" part... what exactly is modded?

For now I'm sticking with divider 100 and A64tweaker startup settings :thumbsup:

hei your requested bios... :woot:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=913610&postcount=10

[TMM]

hei your requested bios... :woot:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=913610&postcount=10

18 R1?

I guess this is the 1.8 bios with Trc and Trfc timings added?

edit: if it is, any chance of adding Trc and Trfc timings to the 1.36B bios? :D i'd be very grateful :toast: :)

[CD 1986]

18 R1?

I guess this is the 1.8 bios with Trc and Trfc timings added?

edit: if it is, any chance of adding Trc and Trfc timings to the 1.36B bios? :D i'd be very grateful :toast: :)

Seems to be 1.8 bios with relaxed preset Trc & Trfc timings (13 & 15)...note that you need to enable onboard GigaLan to get the relaxed timings to work. :)

Thanks tictac :D

[Napoleonic]

when will the official and it's modded 1.9 BIOS released?

[tntgdh]

i really need a bios with the vcore options os the 1.36 (18 %, 15%)
the thing here is that my cpu is not so good...i need 1.69 to get 2.7 ghz...and core center is to problematic ...

is there any way to set core center to apply the voltage i want and close automatcly ?

[dexth77]

Problem running memtest properly now with this bios...will not responce to anything at the memtest screen ie. cant select test/escape, however it seems to be running the tests. Has to hard reset. After reset had to hold insert key or else will hang at reboot with continious beep sounds.

[tictac]

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum :woot:

You can get my modded bios here:
http://www.tictac.katrourke.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=35

thank you,
tictac :cheer2:

[STEvil]

1.8r2 works wonders

[D3kMatrix]

Question about the 1.8r2

It says
"Dimm Drive Strength : Normal / weak
Overclockers Bios Layout"

Doesn't the offical BIOS already have Normal / Weak Drive Strengt options? You do something different?
And whats the Overclockers Bios Layout?

Just wondering before I flash again (No BIOS saver :P )

BTW thanks for all the work ur doing to fix the crapped up Neo2 BIOS's :D

[nfm]

Dimm Drive Strength option is unhided just like in previous mods. tic tac changed bios layout so every option is in correct spot. No worry on flashing

[AFRS]

i dont think ill try the 1.95b BIOS yet as it looks a bit too beta ath the mo. however tictack's 1.8r2 bios looks like the stuff however i cant find where to enable the Realtek NIC device for the 13 15 patch can someone point it out to me (i have honestly looked all over for it). thanks

[STEvil]

integrated peripherals I think is what it was called... its the gigabit ethernet port.

[tictac]

Integrated Peripheral -> Onboard Device -> Onboard Giga Lan

Disabled Onboard Giga Lan to disabled the patch... ;)

[AFRS]

thanks, ill give it a go later

[wat0n]

it works great :woot:

[dexth77]

Hi TicTac,
The 18R2 bios is very nice so far, better than 1.95 even though the 2T issue w/ SD still exist. I noticed that the voltage option in cell menu lets me select up to vcore+18%. However, my system crashed whenever I used > +10%. I'm sure the proc can take that much coz I had used 1.45+ (13%/15%) with 1.36b bios. Any idea?

thanks.

[tictac]

Hi TicTac,
The 18R2 bios is very nice so far, better than 1.95 even though the 2T issue w/ SD still exist. I noticed that the voltage option in cell menu lets me select up to vcore+18%. However, my system crashed whenever I used > +10%. I'm sure the proc can take that much coz I had used 1.45+ (13%/15%) with 1.36b bios. Any idea?

thanks.

well i should disabled that thing... my bad :slap:
thats why i didnt include it in change log... sorry

[dexth77]

No apology needed, we shud thank you for your great job :toast:
Anyway to fix the voltage increment? Some of us really needs >1.6vcore. Thanks again.

[STEvil]

MSI Corecell will allow you to go above 1.6 with a modded bios... but the %'s work in reverse.

+0% is really +18% or whatever..

[tntgdh]

No apology needed, we shud thank you for your great job :toast:
Anyway to fix the voltage increment? Some of us really needs >1.6vcore. Thanks again.
you can say that again.....it would be really usefull to have higher vcore. i´m using core center to add some extra voltage on my cpu...by it´s just too buggy...

think that would be possible tic tac ?


thanks :)

[JonEapples]

I been watching the German MSI forums for the final release information of the new bios. Latest I read today from MurdoK, the guy who MSI gave 1.9b5 beta to pass out and has kept us posted said today that MSI said by the end of the month. In the meantime a guy on the German MSI forums provided this link (http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=de%7Cen&u=http://www.swjka.com/k8nneo2bios/%3Fdir%3D./need.for.mhz&prev=/language_tools) with a new modded 1.8 bios that fixes the 1T/2T problem with the San Diego. This is what I've been waiting for 2 months, but since the new official is supposedly a week away I don't think I'm gonna try it. If anyone does, or if I get bored and flash, please post your results. :cool:

[Moonman]

Nice work tic tac. :toast:
Usefull layout.
First I thought that there aren't voltage options, but then I (thanks God) found them. They are "hidden". Is that suppose to be like that?

[tictac]

that was human error actually... my bad :slap:

Anyway check the best of amd section... there are so many new bios modded by NFM with Memory timing tweak... :up:

[sideeffect]

I tried it with my system in my sig. System posted fine, so pressed DEL button to get into the BIOS and it froze on blinking cursor, so I restarted and same thing, I was like wtf? Then it said "CMOS Checksum error" I restarted my system like 50 more and once I was able to go into the BIOS. Men, this BIOS is not like v1.8 and lower, settings are in different places ect. Then I wanted to check PC Health, system read cpu temp. = 224C :D and then BIOS froze. This was the end of exploring new BIOS. Ok, now system recovery (because I could got further with system till system post) I flashed v1.36Mod in DOS, restarted, and my pc went crazy. Pc was beeping, beeping and beeping :yawn:, I cleared CMOS twice after flashing and it did the trick. now system is back :p:

FLASH THIS BIOS ONLY IF YOU HAVE SOME BALLS :D
NFM i have the same issue as you when i flash the beta bios files. 1.95 and 1.96 bios setup doesnt work just flashes at me. Although windows will boot with the bios if i press F1 to continue with bios defaults. Did you manage to get it working ?

If i quickly pause/break before it tries to enter the bios setup it shows this message Warning : Have Option Rom can not be invoke (vendor ID:IODEH , Device ID:OODFH)