The Zalman CNPS-9500!

[Faceless Rebel]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/editorial/display/computex2005-1_3.html

It's a heatpipe aircooler...but it's like no aircooler you've ever seen before. And Zalman claims it cools better than an 'internal watercooling system w/120mm fan' whatever that means. And I wonder who the 'competitors' they compare it to are. In any case, Thermalright had better watch out, because Zalman is busting out with the elegant industrial design once again!

If this cooler is everything Zalman claims it to be, it could be a much more affordable and easier to install alternative to watercooling which performs as good or better.

[TheMeatFrog]

Looks good, hope it performs!

[RPGWiZaRD]

Looks good, hope it performs!

Of course it will, after all it's Zalman :up:

I hope it will be silent as the CNPS7x00 series was, but that's what Zalman usually aims for afaik and still they perform good.

And the weight is another interesting part...

[HKPolice]

Why is there an indent in the middle of the fins? Pretty stupid if you ask me.. Also, they should shroud it and use 2 fans in a push - pull config. The 'back' of this HS is pretty useless since there is no airflow there.

[Rick_Hunter]

wow... amazing design :slobber: ...but looks expensive

[mrlobber]

The idea is kinda similar to Thermaltake's Sonic Tower except this one has all copper fins in a circular configuration. Btw, Tt has come out with a pair of good coolers as well - and Tt's Big Typhoon can easily challenge the XP-120, if not even more. I'm running on the Sonic Tower right now, and it seems it's doing his job pretty well too.

[STEvil]

fill it (any of the heatpipe coolers actually!) with "liquid metal" :D

[dnottis]

Scroll down...holy huge!!

http://www.frostytech.com/

[TheMeatFrog]

http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationalevents/computex_taiwan_2005/zalmancooler/zalman_big_cooler.jpg:eek2: I'm scared :sofa:

[mrlobber]

:eek2: I'm scared :sofa:

At first I thought what's the deal until I saw that Marlboro pack down there :eek: :shocked:

[HKPolice]

I don't think the big one would even fit in a case... I think it's just for show?

http://www.zalmanusa.com/images/main/kor/news/9500_04b.jpg

It's like 2 feet tall....

The smaller model in this pic is using a 92mm fan, so now I'm sure the big one won't even fit inside a case.

[TheMeatFrog]

LMAO at the BIG one!:hump:

[Faceless Rebel]

Sadly, that huge one is in fact for show. I for one would have liked to cut a hole in my case door and have the HSF hanging out the side of my box like those big engines that come out of the hoods of 60's era muscle cars. The real one can be seen mounted on an A8N-SLI Deluxe here:

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2434&p=8

Here's the Zalman product page:

http://www.zalmanusa.com/mboard/mboard/mboard.asp?exe=view&board_id=comm_usa_notice&group_name=usa_community&idx_num=30&order_c=idx_num&order_da=desc

Impressively, this monster will only weigh 498g! They've made the copper fins very very thin to reduce weight and increase heat transfer. I'm just curious what kind of watercooling setup they compare it to. If it's actually better than watercooling it would have to be some kind of physics-defying miracle, but I'm not putting it past Zalman, they have some badass engineers working over there in Korea. I am surprised they have this two-sided design but only put a fan on one side...but I'm sure they tried the dual-fan push-pull setup and found it didn't improve cooling characteristics enough to justify it. Remember that Zalman is all about quiet computing and 2 fans would be louder than just 1.

This could be just the thing for people who want to run aircooled OCed dual-core rigs. Especially Pentium D, which gets hot enough for me to bake a pizza on top of.

[TheMeatFrog]

It really doesn't look that bad mounted on that A8N. :) I really really want one!

[quicksilverXP]

I think when they said "internal watercooling system", they were referring to CM's Aquagate series.

[dng29]

i want one now :). hope it's not too expensive. it would be nice if the thing is filled with liquid metal like galium or something :). my oc is limited by cooling. i'm contemplating watercooling, but too lazy to maintain it. what would you recommend? asetak waterchill or cooler master aquagate?

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

Why is there an indent in the middle of the fins? Pretty stupid if you ask me.. Also, they should shroud it and use 2 fans in a push - pull config. The 'back' of this HS is pretty useless since there is no airflow there.

the reason its like that is to keep it silent. zalmans more about silence.

[ozzimark]

anyone know what happened to the cnps-8000? i thought that had some potential :stick:

[Gogar]

Why is there an indent in the middle of the fins? Pretty stupid if you ask me.. Also, they should shroud it and use 2 fans in a push - pull config. The 'back' of this HS is pretty useless since there is no airflow there.

Isn't that the area where your casefans are sucking already? Seems like a perfect cooler to me :)

[exscape]

Would be nice if you could rotate it somehow, so that you could have the fan blowing backwards out of the case no matter how your CPU socket is oriented.

[TSFroggy]

That thing seemed pretty big till... well yeah we were all fooled.

Can't wait to see how it performs :)

[Gogar]

Would be nice if you could rotate it somehow, so that you could have the fan blowing backwards out of the case no matter how your CPU socket is oriented.
OMG?! There are boards that have their socket oriented differently???

I just checked the DFI Ultra-D in panic lol.. but it seems to be oriented the same as the ASUS. :)

EDIT: Hmm i was wrong.. but on the picture of it mounted on the ASUS you can see some screws in the same places as the DFI has....
ASUS: http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/tradeshows/2005/Computex/day2/zallman9500.jpg
DFI: http://www.3dchips-fr.com/imglib/big2/1104831683_38.jpg
Maybe zalman supplies a bracket so you can mount it any way you like?

EDIT2: Ok.. i don't think you need to worry.. It seems that the base of the cooler has a little piston in the middle over which you place a clip.. you can place it any way you want.. Sticking it through the heatpipes might be a little more fiddly.. but it's all possible :)
http://www.zalmanusa.com/images/main/kor/news/9500_06b.jpg

[exscape]

My previous M/B, Asus K8N:
http://ioshop.no/images/140719.jpg

[charlie]

yeah, nice...

[perkam]

If that ...THING... becomes as popular as the 7xxx series...I'm gonna start saving up for W/C. :rolleyes:

Perkam

[Xcellere]

Any release date on this? Also, will it use the same bracket at the 7000?

[trance565]

when the 120mm version comes out, im all over it

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

even if you couldnt rotate it then the fan would be blowing the hot air up to the psu fan, which would still be good, i really think this zalman is a winner, depends on how it performs, i may have to ditch my watercooling! :eek:

[exscape]

If you have fan underneath the PSU that is... ;)

[Kunaak]

looks cool, I'd love to try one...

if this is really better then watercooling (which I don't buy into just yet) that would make me wonder... why hasn't anyone tried heatpipes, with watercooling ;)

[quicksilverXP]

looks cool, I'd love to try one...

if this is really better then watercooling (which I don't buy into just yet) that would make me wonder... why hasn't anyone tried heatpipes, with watercooling ;)


I doubt this is any better than watercooling, but the performance could be close. Makes watercooling kind of worthless at the moment...

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

looks cool, I'd love to try one...

if this is really better then watercooling (which I don't buy into just yet) that would make me wonder... why hasn't anyone tried heatpipes, with watercooling ;)

hmmmm.... im not sure it would work well, as the heat pipes are used to transfer the heat from the base to the fins, in the case of watercooling the base is the block and the fins are the radiator. i do have some ideas how it could be done though, but i dont think it would be practical.

If you have fan underneath the PSU that is... ;)

dont mose psu's have them?

[mikael999]

#32 all the psu's i have had had a fan underneath ;)

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

#32 all the psu's i have had had a fan underneath ;)

i do believe some dont, but i do think its atx standard to have one, but not all psu comply with the standards.

[ozzimark]

#32 all the psu's i have had had a fan underneath ;)
ocz powerstream :D

[ZhaoYun]

That thing is huge... HUGE, I tell ya! :stick:

[TheMeatFrog]

That will sit perfectly infront of my exhaust fans!

[groovetek]

too bad u can't use ur own fan - cos i'm guessing it will be a silent cooler... looking at their picture- it doesn't even reach 3000rpm :(

if the performance is better than an XP120 with a medium speed (ie, 60-80cfm) 120mm fan - then i'm up for it for sure. Hopefully the pricing is not much more than an XP90 though.

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

too bad u can't use ur own fan - cos i'm guessing it will be a silent cooler... looking at their picture- it doesn't even reach 3000rpm :(

if the performance is better than an XP120 with a medium speed (ie, 60-80cfm) 120mm fan - then i'm up for it for sure. Hopefully the pricing is not much more than an XP90 though.

i bet you can switch the fan like with the other zalmans

[Ender17]

nice, looks like it's time to retire the XP-120

[TheMeatFrog]

I might rather have a xp-120 if I was running high voltage ram though...the zalman doesn't look like it does much in the way of helping with ram cooling like the xp-120. What do you guys think?

[mik2uzl]

It looks like you can mount the 9500 in either of 2 directions, so on a DFI nf4 board it could be mounted to blow over the ram modules and out a top blow hole of the case.

[HKPolice]

While sucking up the hot air coming off of the video card....

It looks like you can mount the 9500 in either of 2 directions, so on a DFI nf4 board it could be mounted to blow over the ram modules and out a top blow hole of the case.

[FireDragon]

Why did they not put a shroud around it take out the front indent where the fan is and run push-pull with another fan on the back it would work MUCH better...IDK...zally is nice and perform decent but I only get them when I want silence NOT TRUE performance...

Dragon

[Psyche911]

Yeah, but the outside dimensions of the round part are probably close to 120mm. I say make a custom cylindrical shroud and mount a medium speed 120mm fan on each end. See how well it does then... :)

[dng29]

i can't wait to get this heatsink. i'm already planning on a mod to maximize airflow. what i'm planning on doing is changing the position of the sink. instead of having is face the psu on one side and the vid card on the other side. i'll switch the position to face the front and back of the case. i know people will argue against this mod, but think about it. i'm planning on adding a 120mm fan to the sink along with the attached fan. ok, this is how i envision it to work. heatsink will face front and back of the case. the side that has the original fan will face the front since it'll push air into the heatsink. the back side will face the 120mm rear exhaust fan. i'll add another 120mm fan on the back side to suck hot air out from the heatsink. so the final setup will effectively be cold air blows into heatsink and hot air sucks out from the sink and exhaust thru rear 120mm fan. i hope that i can switch the mounting brackets :). this idea is patent pending :). let me know what you think about this.

[Mikesta]

i can't wait to get this heatsink. i'm already planning on a mod to maximize airflow. what i'm planning on doing is changing the position of the sink. instead of having is face the psu on one side and the vid card on the other side. i'll switch the position to face the front and back of the case. i know people will argue against this mod, but think about it. i'm planning on adding a 120mm fan to the sink along with the attached fan. ok, this is how i envision it to work. heatsink will face front and back of the case. the side that has the original fan will face the front since it'll push air into the heatsink. the back side will face the 120mm rear exhaust fan. i'll add another 120mm fan on the back side to suck hot air out from the heatsink. so the final setup will effectively be cold air blows into heatsink and hot air sucks out from the sink and exhaust thru rear 120mm fan. i hope that i can switch the mounting brackets :). this idea is patent pending :). let me know what you think about this.

I'm having similar thoughts. Great IDea but I'm sure that we aren't the only ones thinking the same thing.

[AKURA]

Screw the smaller version :D imo zalman should give us the mideum version of that cooler or the big one. It would end all those hp wars from all companies :slobber:

[dng29]

I'm having similar thoughts. Great IDea but I'm sure that we aren't the only ones thinking the same thing.


if the mounting brackets can't be removed then we can't do anything. i wonder if i can pitch the idea to zalman and see if they'll change the position of the mounting bracket :)

[dng29]

anyone know when this heatsink will be available online? thanks.

[trance565]

a mod i would think of, is have a clear pvc type pipe, running from front to back, if you ahve enough room, and use it as a wind tunnel, to take air from outside from teh front, and push it thru the heatsink and out the back :p: on my computer, it would be perfect, cuz i dont use my a drive anyways, and thats wehre the tube would end up being, so i could mount a 90 or 120 mm fan where the 2 external 3.5 inch bays are, and BAM!

[AKURA]

I like this design, At least the the HP are in 8 shape loop. Just hopefully it'll fit on my mobo when it's released. :toast:

[dng29]

what online vendor will have this heatsink first? i heard end of june is the release. is that accurate? i want one so bad.

[Ender17]

bump, when is this gonna be out?

[jinu117]

Sharka always seems few days ahead on zalman stuff than majority of e-tailor.

[dng29]

i was searching around and saw this site listed it as available mid-july. they say to call for pricing and details. i called and it sounded like this guy is running a business from home or something. i'll definitely be checking sharka out. hopefully it'll be cheap and beats watercooling performance.

[Ender17]

guess I'll have to make the XP-120 last a little longer

[TheMeatFrog]

bump, when is this gonna be out?
:brick: :with: the xp90 needs to retire :p:

[AgentVX]

http://www.quietpcusa.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=8&Product_ID=266&CATID=3

July 22nd, US$75! Ouch :slapass:

[TheMeatFrog]

Yea it's a bit expensive but if it lives up to the hype I wouldn't mind paying that.

[Ender17]

http://www.quietpcusa.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=8&Product_ID=266&CATID=3

July 22nd, US$75! Ouch :slapass:
sweet
anyone order from them before?
can't find them on resellerratings

[jinu117]

sweet
anyone order from them before?
can't find them on resellerratings

Very reputable... (silentpcreview.com's one of fav site). Only thing is... their prices are usually not competitve... their exotic items do drive their business AFAIK.

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

no way can this thing touch watercooling done right (swiftech storm/storm G4, MCW6002, etc) though it probably hands-down beats the crappier stuff (koolance, Tt water cooling)

[AKURA]

no way can this thing touch watercooling done right (swiftech storm/storm G4, MCW6002, etc) though it probably hands-down beats the crappier stuff (koolance, Tt water cooling)

Yup true, no way in hell could it make it though. After seeing how much it weighed at only a P.O.S 433Grams.....I said :banana::banana::banana::banana:in screw it and not get the damn thing. I bet my whole rig all the reviewers will give it 2 asshatting thumbs up coz it looks really really cool :slapass: :D

[jinu117]

no way can this thing touch watercooling done right (swiftech storm/storm G4, MCW6002, etc) though it probably hands-down beats the crappier stuff (koolance, Tt water cooling)

Don't talk down or up on things you haven't used. Koolance exos is still much Cooler than current top of the heatsink Thermaltake big typhoon by easy 5c under very heavy overclocking for loaded temp if not more depending on v-core (well typhoon craps out before exos does). The comparison of Zalman mentions typical 120mm radi which in my guess is BIP or something even less efficient. All that said, it might close the gap between low end H2O and aircooling even further... but than, scarely enough, price gap is getting smaller too -0-...

[dng29]

anyone pre-order this thing yet? i can't wait to get it when it's actually in stock. my cpu is in need of better cooling badly. it's a 3200 venice that has the potential to reach 2900Mhz on air :).

[novagamer]

anyone pre-order this thing yet? i can't wait to get it when it's actually in stock. my cpu is in need of better cooling badly. it's a 3200 venice that has the potential to reach 2900Mhz on air :).

You would be better off with a Thermaltake or something like that, with a fast fan. Zalman's are made for low-noise, not high performance. They usually rank in the middle rane of heatsinks, performance wise. However they are almost always in the uppermost ranks of quiet-cooling components. :)

[dng29]

You would be better off with a Thermaltake or something like that, with a fast fan. Zalman's are made for low-noise, not high performance. They usually rank in the middle rane of heatsinks, performance wise. However they are almost always in the uppermost ranks of quiet-cooling components. :)


i was thinking of getting the big typhoon, but it's not all copper like the cnps9500. i like a quiet pc too, but then again i'll be adding a 120mm fan to the heatsink too when i get it. i wonder if there will be reviews on it before it's available. there are a few high performance heatsink out there, but i got my mind set on this zalman. i hope it performs well.

[Ender17]

I see quiet PC has changed the arrival date to "early August"

[Magnj]

I think that with some AS5 will do my baby better than the stock cooler..or anything else for 80$

[MaxxxRacer]

congrats to zalman for excelent weight optimization!

[Ender17]

looks like the XP-120 is gonna be around for a while longer

[illmatik]

Looks like it uses the same mounting mechanism as the cnps7xxx series.. Might be the ultimate dothan heatsink if they include the same brackets that can be reversed!!

[Rob94hawk]

Hey guys, which way does the fan blow the hot air?

I really need to get rid of this 92mm tornado

[groovetek]

who actually beleives this can beat a "120mm radiator water cooling system" as shown on that graph?

lets say even something low-end like CoolerMaster Aquagate Mini R120 - who beleives the Zalman can top that? At best it'd be close I think!

But I reckon basically any other kit would wreck it... for example, Corsair Cool, Koolance EXOS or even corsair Hydrocool, no way a aircooled heatsink has any chance...

[muaddib]

It's huge. I hope it performs as good as it looks...

[MaxxxRacer]

i just took a look at the perfomrance graph they have and i just have to laugh...

[TheMeatFrog]

The kitten in your sig makes me laugh :D
:spam:

[Judaeus Apella]

This thing was announced like 4 months ago... Whens it comming out!!!!

What I dont like about these Zalmans is that you CAN'T upgrade the fan. VERY annoying to me. But this one looks like its worth getting. I wonder if you can cut a Delta out of its stock casing and modify it to fit inside that Zalman though....

[STEvil]

it possibly could take on a single 120mm fan mid range system.

[AgentVX]

who actually beleives this can beat a "120mm radiator water cooling system" as shown on that graph?

lets say even something low-end like CoolerMaster Aquagate Mini R120 - who beleives the Zalman can top that? At best it'd be close I think!

But I reckon basically any other kit would wreck it... for example, Corsair Cool, Koolance EXOS or even corsair Hydrocool, no way a aircooled heatsink has any chance...

It could be one of the Thermaltake kits :p:

[TheModWiki.org]

Can you digg it? http://www.digg.com/hardware/Zalman_9500_CPU_HSF_Cooler_with_Amazing_Figure_8_H eatpipe_Design

[Judaeus Apella]

Its not just simply an aircool heatsink, it uses heatpipes. Thats VERY different. There is liquid inside of the heatpipes with highly compressed gas.

[TheModWiki.org]

Its not just simply an aircool heatsink, it uses heatpipes. Thats VERY different. There is liquid inside of the heatpipes with highly compressed gas.

compressed? I thought i remember reading that it was some liquid with a high heat tranfer spec (think mercury) that moved through the heatpipe on some type of wick

[Judaeus Apella]

*shrugs* Thats what I was told was in them, maybe zalmans are different.

[STEvil]

There are a lot of ways to do it.

You can use pressure, a vaccuum, and different styled "wicks"...




They're all pretty ineffective though. The metal you are thinking of is a Gallium with other compounds. We have yet to see just how effective it is however since the "liquid metal" heatsinks have not really been reviewed yet.

[Judaeus Apella]

REALLY.... WHEN IS THIS THING COMMING OUT?!?

They announced this thing a quarter of a year ago... when the hell is it comming out?! *paces*

[jetjaguar]

quietpcusa or wutever that website originally said july 22nd .. now it says late august

[red_dragon]

hmmm can't wait. I saw these at computex and they were really sweet. I wonder if they really cool better than water :).

[Ender17]

hmmm can't wait. I saw these at computex and they were really sweet. I wonder if they really cool better than water :).
Depends on the water setup you're comparing it to.

[yasoumalaka]

The xp-120 with medium panaflo I installed on a comp with a venice could handle 1.7v, but I didn't really test stability that may lacking because of a higher but safe temperature (45 - 50c @ load). I haven't gone past 1.7v on my H2o setup yet cause I heard its unsafe. So I spent about 250 more for whatever stability I get from being 5 - 10c lower. This heatsink could be a good investment if it can keep up or pass the xp-120 in cooling performance. I think everybody that is thinking of watercooling should forget about it and go for phase change. That is what I'm attempting cause H2o in my opinion is half azs. its a little better than current heat sinks but nothing to brag about and brings performnace differences that are most of the time non detectable. so heat sinks for a pretty good overclock without many head aches and phase change for those of us that want only the most xtreme over clocks. :2cents:

[IYP]

but with watercooling you get your GFX cards colled too....to the best of my knowledge you cant do this with a phaswe change unit

[Judaeus Apella]

quietpcusa or wutever that website originally said july 22nd .. now it says late august

All I can say, is that it better be worth the wait! If they compare it to a really crappy water cooler I'm gonna be really pissed, when I could have had an XP-90C a month before. :upset:

Also, the biggest reason for me not to go to phase change at the moment is concerns about condensation! Yes I know that there are measures you can take to solve that, but Im not at a place where I have the time requried to do that, or the money to spend on that kind of thing. That can get very expensive for those of us who know NOTHING of building a phase change device, nor even remotely want to do it our self. I'd settle for a below watter chiller that lowered the temperature of the water, just enough to avoid any issues with condensation. But I don't have the cash for something like that right now. I still have to buy some very expensive parts for my new graphics studio desk. :(

[Ender17]

yeah, unless this thing shows a huge improvement, I'm sticking with the XP-120
I'm pretty happy with my current temps anyway

[Xyus89]

hiya,
Somebody said something about watercooling beeing worthless what I do not agree with.
If you are going to overclock with air you will always need more than a good cpu fan (3-5 fans) and this is going to make much more noise than H²O.
But at the other hand this zalman is going to be much cheaper that H²O.

Xyus

[george__]

I WANT NOW!! Will this beat a Thermaltake Big Typhoon?

[Ender17]

I WANT NOW!! Will this beat a Thermaltake Big Typhoon?
hard to tell when no one has reviewed it :rolleyes:

[george__]

hard to tell when no one has reviewed it :rolleyes:
Wut u think?

[MDboyz]

Hope it doesn't disappoint me .. like the Vapochill Micro.

[Mike@Portugal]

A little review here:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/print/zalman-cnps9500.html

I't beats the Zalman 7700cu by 13ºC at full load and it beats the Gigabyte 3D Galaxy WC Kit too.

I know that 3D Galaxy is weak but beating 7700cu by 13ºC is very good and i think it's enough to beat XP90C too.

[Mike@Portugal]

And another review:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2005/08/18/zalman_asetek_cooler/1.html

Asetek MicroChill, what a piece of crap!!

[ZL1]

Awesome cooler IMO, in a case with good airflow it will rock, it will blend right into the airflow (as long as your socket is horizontal)

Thanks for the reviews Mike and everybody else

D

[EvlUndrWareNome]

A little review here:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/print/zalman-cnps9500.html

I't beats the Zalman 7700cu by 13ºC at full load and it beats the Gigabyte 3D Galaxy WC Kit too.

I know that 3D Galaxy is weak but beating 7700cu by 13ºC is very good and i think it's enough to beat XP90C too.

69.5 C is a little too high for me.

Good for stock but that oc temperature better be a typo..

Also I noticed that the AMD temps were ALOT better compared to it on the Intel from X-bit labs.

[Mats]

69.5 C is a little too high for me.

Good for stock but that oc temperature better be a typo..

Also I noticed that the AMD temps were ALOT better compared to it on the Intel from X-bit labs.
Man, we're talking about a boiling P4 @ 4 GHz! Not an OCed A64. Huge difference (http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_venice/10.shtml)!

[ZL1]

I don't think the big one would even fit in a case... I think it's just for show?

http://www.zalmanusa.com/images/main/kor/news/9500_04b.jpg

It's like 2 feet tall....

The smaller model in this pic is using a 92mm fan, so now I'm sure the big one won't even fit inside a case.

these guys (http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD0xMjE3) suggest using the 'CoolerMaster 821 Garage' :D

[Him_]

Anyone seen already or know if the CNPS9500 can be used for AMD 64 with the IHS removed?

Tks Him

[ElAguila]

It is just a regular heatpipe heatsink. I have my doubts that it can beat a good watercooling setup. The best on the market today is supposedly the xp-90c. I would like to see a comparison of the new zalman to an xp-90c and to one of the new scythe ninja heatpipe coolers. I will wait and see. I got caught up in the hype of the vapochill micro only to discover it was a poorly engineered pos.

[toledo]

A little review here:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/print/zalman-cnps9500.html

I't beats the Zalman 7700cu by 13ºC at full load and it beats the Gigabyte 3D Galaxy WC Kit too.

I know that 3D Galaxy is weak but beating 7700cu by 13ºC is very good and i think it's enough to beat XP90C too.

Is good to remember that the Zalman beat the 3D Galaxy because the radiator fan was at 1800 rpm , it can run up to 3600rpm . But looks like it will be the king of the air coolers .

[Supershanks]

Got to agree with toledo as good as water cooling is marketing hype but - it looks a damn fine cooler & I just pre-ordered mine :)

Scan UK - Zalman CNPS9500-LED Aero Flower - Pre order No stock yet (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=256319) it was a toss up between this & xp-90 which is dearer if u include fan.

Have just put this rig together & had got the Asetek VapoChill Micro - Ultra Low Noise 4 it - not at all impressed :-

Issues:-
1) Fan mounting is laughable - it's like the acrylic stiffners they use to pack new shirts (to hold collar nicely in place)
2) Not all of CPU is covered - when dismounted saw corners of cpu not covered with thermal paste.
3) Mounting is hit/miss as to whether you have equal tension across CPU.
unlike other heat sinks (like zalmann) gives u a lack of confidence with mounting.
4) Radiator is flimsy & easy to damage.

Pros:-
1) Easy to remove & replace. :rolleyes:

Running Stock cooler @ minute :D

[Supershanks]

Running Stock cooler @ minute :D
(OC Turned off) :eek:

[z-design]

No doubt the best quiet/performance ratio cooler ever built.

I mean you could have a friggin driveway blower going full blast into an xp90c, then it would be better...

hopefully i make my point apparent :p

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z-design.
i make my point apparent :p - No Sorry ???

[z-design]

What I am trying to say is that a really high cfm fan on an xp90c, take a vantec-tornado for example. It is likely to beat the cnps-9500. It seems alot of people are comparing them to xp-90c's. So I am just saying that the zalman would be as great of a cooler as an xp90 only quiet

[zakelwe]

Currently on my benching rig I have the Zalman 7000 with the fan removed and a delta 80mm FFB0812EHE fan blowing down on it. I can imagine this design would be better but fan placement might be interesting, bung the delta in the middle or sit it on top ?

This certainly looks a lot better than the asetek thingy, xbit seemed to like it as well. Anyone know when it is likely to arrive in the UK ?

Regards

Andy

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z-design,
Yep your right on that, in fact that's the fan i would have been using. :)

[Supershanks]

Well Back to plan B :rolleyes:
Just heard from Scan that Shipment of Zalman CNPS9500-LED
is not expected 4 2 weeks. wonder if 1st batch has been faulty as in the Zalman CNPS9500 vs Asetek Microchill (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2005/08/18/zalman_asetek_cooler/2.html) Here's where our problem with this cooler is - look at the contact surface with the chip! The Arctic Silver tells the story - it simply isn't making a contact with the very core of the CPU

So Plan B = XP-90C as z-design said :clap:
ThermalRight XP-90C (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Thermalright_120.html) Get the C 4 same £ as Xp-90 :cool:

[Mike@Portugal]

Here is another review (in French):

http://www.matbe.com/articles/refroid/zalman-cnps-9500/page1.php

[jumanji969]

I find it slightly annoying how everyone seems to compare their heatsink to watercooling, saying it either is as good or better than watercooling...

[chinkgai]

i like that french review...numbers seem much more realistic than those early reviews in english...

[toledo]

i like that french review...numbers seem much more realistic than those early reviews in english...

It has been beaten by XP-120 . I didn`t expect that . Did you ?

[fordf250]

Yes

[biohead]

In the French review, the G power pro from Gigabyte comes on top over everything. It's 110mm fan could be the advantage..
Though I've never heard of that cooler before, it looks pretty good on their website. Only the plastic blue looks kinda like a toy, lol.

http://www.giga-byte.com/DeskTop/FileList/ProductImage/photo_gh-pdu21-mf_big.jpg

Also the temperatures in the French review are so low, that I think it's not tested in a normal room ambient (like 22°C).

What you guys think?

[higgins]

It has been beaten by XP-120 . I didn`t expect that . Did you ?

no. i'm not that impressed with the results actually. i'm glad i went out and bought my tt tyhpoon. really sweet cooler :cool:

In the French review, the G power pro from Gigabyte comes on top over everything. It's 110mm fan could be the advantage..
Though I've never heard of that cooler before, it looks pretty good on their website. Only the plastic blue looks kinda like a toy, lol.

http://www.giga-byte.com/DeskTop/FileList/ProductImage/photo_gh-pdu21-mf_big.jpg

Also the temperatures in the French review are so low, that I think it's not tested in a normal room ambient (like 22°C).

What you guys think?

the only disadvantage with the gigabyte is........ 72dbA. it's like having a hairdryer by your ear.

[Supershanks]

Sorry :confused: can't hear yo......U ;)
Well I'm happy just got my XP-90C this am - ordered cos zalman not out yet.
I'm a truly happy camper. Might order another 4 the wife it looks so cool - be like having a sculptor / work of art on the coffee table. :eek: :D

[biohead]

the only disadvantage with the gigabyte is........ 72dbA. it's like having a hairdryer by your ear.

lol didn't notice that. I saw ~3k rpm which didn't make me check the noise

:idea:

[ZL1]

Here is another review (in French):

http://www.matbe.com/articles/refroid/zalman-cnps-9500/page1.php

interesting ... perhaps I should go with a xp90 after all

Thanks again Mike, if you find more please post :)
Dan

[ZL1]

In the French review, the G power pro from Gigabyte comes on top over everything. It's 110mm fan could be the advantage..
Though I've never heard of that cooler before, it looks pretty good on their website. Only the plastic blue looks kinda like a toy, lol.



Also the temperatures in the French review are so low, that I think it's not tested in a normal room ambient (like 22°C).

What you guys think?

I think its advantage is the 110mm fan running at 3200rpm, the other sinks with 120mm fans ran under 2.5k rpm
edit: then again at 2580rpm that thing still pulled a better delta t than the xp120 with the sunon running at 2430rpm so who knows :)

those temps are delta t (difference between ambient and cpu)

D

[toledo]

interesting ... perhaps I should go with a xp90 after all

Thanks again Mike, if you find more please post :)
Dan

I guess after all , Thermalright still rulez in air cooler . I`m looking for another XP-120 x CNPS9500 review to confirm ;)

[ZL1]

I guess after all , Thermalright still rulez in air cooler . I`m looking for another XP-120 x CNPS9500 review to confirm ;)

yeah me too, Im waiting for a few more reviews and a price tag, before I finally go ahead and upgrade my cooling

D