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jan
05-22-2005, 01:05 PM
this is my co2 cascade. i've built it 4 weeks ago. today i charged it. just tested for short time so ive to tune the charge.


http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/1.jpg

http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/2.jpg

http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/3.jpg

http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/4.jpg


This is the lowest temp yet...
http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/7.jpg


HX temp with 2nd stage running. First stage uses pure R290.
http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/12.jpg


Currently I've a big problem with dryice forming :cry: I need to find the right charge.
http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/6.jpg


A bit ice :D
http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/9.jpg

http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/10.jpg

http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/11.jpg


And again the whole system.

http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/kryotech/Bilder/cascade2/8.jpg

shadowing
05-22-2005, 01:28 PM
Nice! That's a huge condenser you have though.

FUGGER
05-22-2005, 01:28 PM
Very nice, bummer about the dry ice forming. Are you running a second gas in the second stage to try to prevent it from turning solid? Maybe 134A or ?

jan
05-22-2005, 01:31 PM
Very nice, bummer about the dry ice forming. Are you running a second gas in the second stage to try to prevent it from turning solid? Maybe 134A or ?


Its a mix of CO2 and R290 I am using right now.

I need to find the right charge. But maybe I'll try with R134a too.

cold_ice
05-22-2005, 01:33 PM
Looks good, the fan is a bit dangerous :D
Are the temperatures HX-out or HX-in?

jan
05-22-2005, 02:02 PM
Looks good, the fan is a bit dangerous :D
Are the temperatures HX-out or HX-in?


hx inlet. next time i'll take the outlet temperature


oh, the fan is more then dangerous. :p: but i'll use another fan in the final cascade. this is just for testing. :D

kayl
05-22-2005, 02:04 PM
very nice jan, and some nice temps also
you can lisen to the eva. add lots of r290.
then slowly replace r290 for more co2.

bxa121
05-23-2005, 12:27 AM
birkut did a co2 cascade a while ago.. give him a pm, he had a trick on how to stop gas forming in evap...

Russell_hq
05-23-2005, 04:36 AM
he had a trick on how to stop gas forming in evap...

Surely you mean dry ice/solid CO2 man :slap: ;)

berkut
05-23-2005, 06:52 AM
sofar i noticed R22 works the best with CO2. R134A does not help at all.

jan
05-23-2005, 07:14 AM
sofar i noticed R22 works the best with CO2. R134A does not help at all.


Hm, maybe I should order a bit R22. Does it work much better then R290?

Best would be R1150 insted of CO2 but I don't have the money right now. :(

berkut
05-23-2005, 07:40 AM
with co2 nothing works much better, its only a little better

jan
05-23-2005, 09:09 AM
with co2 nothing works much better, its only a little better

then I'll save the money for r1150


you and kayl used only a small amount of co2 and more r290 in the second stage. is that correct?

berkut
05-23-2005, 11:45 AM
exacly like me

INSULATE

kayl
05-23-2005, 04:10 PM
then I'll save the money for r1150

you and kayl used only a small amount of co2 and more r290 in the second stage. is that correct?

that’s righ lots of r290/ not sure if there is more r290 or more c02.
Easiest way is to load it on cpu, and if it starts to suck vacuum (blocking)
Or get a complete block and low pressure increases and temps fall,
Need to add more r290. but at the same time ya need enough c02 to get cold temps.
It’s a big challenge.
But then once I sorted it when you remove the evap ya get nice noload temps.

I know im saving for 1150 too jan. :toast:

bxa121
05-24-2005, 03:10 AM
Surely you mean dry ice/solid CO2 man :slap: ;)
d'oh!
:p:

GuGaCoSa
05-25-2005, 01:42 PM
Hey Jan,very nice cascade,but i just have one question
What regulator do you use for your co2 bottle?i'm getting a bottle like yours(my bottle suports 0.6kg of co2)and i would like to know what regulator do you use.
Thank you.

jan
05-25-2005, 08:26 PM
Hey Jan,very nice cascade,but i just have one question
What regulator do you use for your co2 bottle?i'm getting a bottle like yours(my bottle suports 0.6kg of co2)and i would like to know what regulator do you use.
Thank you.

I use a CO2/Argon regulator