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n00b 0f l337
05-16-2005, 10:28 AM
I've seen people do like methane and such, but is it possible to somehow use oxygen itself? I've also seen co2..

gclg2000
05-16-2005, 11:24 AM
methane yes as a cascade gas, oxygen no, co2 yes

Sneil
05-16-2005, 11:28 AM
sorry to hijack, but is co2 just added to other gases as a cheap solution for lower tems or can you use it as the main gas in a single stage unit or a 2nd stage cascade gas... ?? also is adding co2 to propane in a single stage a good idea?
again sorry to hijack :slapass:

n00b 0f l337
05-16-2005, 11:34 AM
Can someone eplain why O2 itself wouldnt work? Too hard to compress?

Sneil
05-16-2005, 11:42 AM
this is probably why, liquid oxygen only takes up a 10th of the space compressed o2 gas does, so when it evaporates it will REALLY expand and you'll lose your vacuume creating all sorts of problems. I may be wrong but this seems like a good enough reason

n00b 0f l337
05-16-2005, 11:43 AM
What if you managed the tubing size for after expansions and compressions?

Sneil
05-16-2005, 11:47 AM
don't know but compressors probably can't suck the expanding gas out quick enough to stop pressure from building

n00b 0f l337
05-16-2005, 11:48 AM
Well what if you paralled up 2 compressors? I wonder.... The temp on the evaporation could be insane...

Sneil
05-16-2005, 11:53 AM
lol only one way to find out, but i doubt it :explode2:

Epsilon
05-16-2005, 11:55 AM
DO NOT EVEN THINK TO USE OXYGEN IN ANY WAY!!!!

Oxygen + oil is a BOM. Do not even think of using it.

Sneil
05-16-2005, 12:02 PM
lol yea there you go, never thought of that. :am:
no o2 wouldnt be a good idea

Anyone with answers to the co2 questions???

runmc
05-16-2005, 12:05 PM
Oxygen mixed with oil will EXPLODE!! Never even use WD 40 or any oils on oxygen gauges, it will explode!!! :nono:

Please read Walts safety warning about Oxygen :fact:

wdrzal
05-16-2005, 03:23 PM
Yesterday I seen a post asking about actylene, today oxygen,many people have been killed by acidents just in the work place by these 2 gases. gases store a lot of potential engery,this can be DEADLY if they are mis-handled. Under no circumstance should you mix gases unless you are 100% sure of the reaction. one drop of oil and oxygen under pressure will explode,and has killed people.Now think of a compressor full of oil. For your safety and everyone around you spend the money and take the time to read a good book from cover to cover. many safety issues are not discussed here that you should be aware of. safety matters!!!!!!

n00b 0f l337
05-16-2005, 03:34 PM
Well, thats why I asked. I thought it was a dumb idea, but I was just throwing out an idea. I've seen things like those insane cascades, and was just throwing out a possibility to get shot down.

wdrzal
05-16-2005, 04:04 PM
SAFETY should be the one joint project for everyone who uses this site. The safe way is the only way!!!!

n00b 0f l337
05-16-2005, 04:20 PM
Thank you, at this point it seems your just trying to increase your post count.

wdrzal
05-16-2005, 04:27 PM
Thank you, at this point it seems your just trying to increase your post count.

I don't need to do that,maybee it's your motive. :nono:

SoddemFX
05-16-2005, 04:56 PM
Walt just doesnt want you to kill yourself and/or others...

Oxygen and oil under pressure will produce a bomb.

Tom

runmc
05-16-2005, 05:05 PM
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