Folding: No Stats

[NoEcho]

Started folding for team 3365 last night. Been through a few cycles since then. See nothing in the stats. Sup with that?

[Marci]

You will only see yourself listed in the stats after you have completed a work unit.... run the client with the extension " - send all" at the end to transmit any units that are waiting to be sent from your machine....

[Tweaked!]

You won't show up until you've completed a wu. Each wu has different amounts of frames. Some has 100 frames, and some go as high as 400. Just be patient, you'll show up eventually. What user name are you using?

[N8]

I c u now :) Movin on up! :D

[K2Rage101]

thanks NoEcho!

Screw [H]!!!

[felix88]

woo hoo!! NoEcho's on the team!

[NyCUndaGrounD]

Where exactly do i put the " - send all" extension u mentioned

[Npos]

the -send all is a command line argument, so you can do a couple of things. First, you can open a command prompt and run the executable by typing in its name with the -send all after it, or you could make a shortcut on your desktop to your FAH executable, then right click on it, and then change the target box to include the -send all
So the contents of the box would look like this:
C:\folding\FAH.exe -send all

Hope that helps

EDIT: The contents would look something like the example above, not exactly like it. Also, this is assuming you are running the Text only console version....

[NoEcho]

Thanks for the encouragement all. Left off for a day when I didn't see anything. Reconnected to 3365 when I saw that the WU were, in fact, showing up.

I typically run the full time/all the time F@H. Would that "- send all" work if I attach it to the executable command in the icon's properties? Does that mean I send every frame? That would be sweet, had a WU drop last night at something like 196/200 for unknown reasons.

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Tried modifying the command line to include " -send all" and "-send all" and neither is accepted.

[felix88]

noecho, i'm not sure how to add flags to the end of the .exe file it never seems to work correctly.

people recommend that you create a shortcut to the .exe file and add the " -send all" flag to the end of that. here is what mine looks like.

http://www.canby.com/chale/sendall.jpg

[NoEcho]

Ahhh, tried mine inside the quotes....

Now tried outside the quotes. It's better but the prog disappears after 5 seconds. Still doesn't work. Notice you have a beta prog running. Maybe I should try that or a new core or something.

You run the screensaver version or the 'on all the time' version?

[felix88]

i run the console version. did you remember the space in between the " and the -? it should look exactly like this [...beta1.exe" -send all]

you should be able to add the " -send all" flag to the end of the regular console version. i run it on my computer using the Scheduled Task method, and i use firedaemon for the other systems.

in case you need more help i'll do what i can to find some guides.

*edit*

heres how to get firedaemon working: firedaemon guide (http://www.folding.octeams.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=FAQ&file=index&myfaq=yes&id_cat=15& categories=Running+FAH+as+a+Firedaemon+service+in+<br />NT%2F2k%2FXP&parent_id=7)

and here is a quick Scheduled task guide:


borrowed(and slightly modified) from Tweaked!
Create a folder in your program files, name it F@H, then move the download into that folder. Right click on it and choose to create a shortcut. Go into system tools (in your programs) and open task scheduler. Dbl click to add a new task, hit next, choose browse and locate that new shortcut you created of the download. Next screen will show you the name of the task and the options for when to perform this task. Then opt for it to perform the task when computer starts. next screen opts for password, ok it. Then in the next screen, opt for adv. properties. Once in there, You'll see the run command, this is where you add the flags, at the end of the run command, place you cursor there, hit the space bar once, and add " -send all" with the space between the flag as well as in front of it. Go to settings and uncheck "Stop the task if it runs for 72 hours". Hit apply and your off. Right click the new task after closing the adv properties screen and opt to run. This will open the main window for the client and it will prompt for user name and team designation. Choose your unique name and enter team # 3365.

[Tweaked!]

You only need the "-send all" flag if it's queing the wu and not send it in. It will still wait till the client is done with the wu before it will attempt to send. You really want the "-advmethods" flag though, that will enable higher optimizations within the cpu. Should cut your times down considerably:D My method quoted above is to run the console version as a scheduled task in windows. That way the client runs in the background without the window in the task bar.:cool:

Btw, Welcome to the team!:D

[NoEcho]

Thanks for the welcome again!

You guys are raising some intriguing ideas...

I am but a simple caveman, dim in the ways of folding, and many of these changes make no sense to me.

The ' -send all' doesn't work on my win2k SP3/P4 rig, space or no space. It runs an Intel optiimization prog already.. wonder if that conflicts. Might also be making a call to a service that I've disabled. Not sure which ones it relies upon.

That daemon optimization sounds intriguing too. I am DEFINITELY interested in cpu optimizations for folding. I would like whatever changes I make to the primary computer to be consistent with regular functions as well. I have no dedicated 'boxen'. My backup pretty much just folds but if I make any changes to that which would supercede or eliminate regular function then I would want those changes to be quickly reversible. I'm a bit leery of the Microsoft Scheduler... though that's not based on experience but lack thereof.

Both computers I fold on right now are also used for regular stuff like email and gaming (though the backup folds most of the time). Primary is P4 and backup is XP... if that affects the cpu optimization issues.

I fold just about all the time, if that's a factor too. To me it's a great sign of stability when I can play a game maxed out and fold at the same time. THAT's my test of stability.

My F@H version is 3.14.

Given all these caveats, how might I best enhance my folding output?

[felix88]

Originally posted by NoEcho
I would like whatever changes I make to the primary computer to be consistent with regular functions as well. I have no dedicated 'boxen'. My backup pretty much just folds but if I make any changes to that which would supercede or eliminate regular function then I would want those changes to be quickly reversible.

firedaemon would work very well for the quick and easy changes you want.


Both computers I fold on right now are also used for regular stuff like email and gaming (though the backup folds most of the time). Primary is P4 and backup is XP... if that affects the cpu optimization issues.

I fold just about all the time, if that's a factor too. To me it's a great sign of stability when I can play a game maxed out and fold at the same time. THAT's my test of stability.

AMDs generally fold faster than Intel clock for clock. in fact, an xp2000 can usually out fold a p4 2.0GHz.

as for optimizations, i use a few. " -forceasm" forces optimized code to be used, you should use that on both the XP and the P4. " -advmethods" can be used on both cpus, but i believe it helps most on P4s.

for other optimizations, you may want to check out the beta team sticky at the top of the page. you can help find cures for diseases and test new software. fun! :rolleyes:


My F@H version is 3.14.

the graphical client or the text console one? this may affect the way the flags work(i'm not 100% sure though).

[NoEcho]

Originally posted by felix88
as for optimizations, i use a few. " -forceasm" forces optimized code to be used, you should use that on both the XP and the P4. " -advmethods" can be used on both cpus, but i believe it helps most on P4s.

the graphical client or the text console one? this may affect the way the flags work(i'm not 100% sure though).

Great lead! Trying them both on the P4 now.

Not sure whether I've got text or console version. I see a graphic when I maximize the display so I guess graphic. Thought there was just the 'screen saver' and 'full time prog' versions.

....

Well, found out the tweaks are working on the P4 using 3.14 but they don't work on the XP running 3.1

Go figure. Guess it'll be time for an upgrade tonight.

[felix88]

firedaemon works best with the text only console. i'm not sure how you would use it with the graphical client.

i'd give the text only console a try. i had some problems with opengl using the graphical client. it's under "no nonsence text only console" at the stanford page.

[jmke]

Originally posted by felix88
AMDs generally fold faster than Intel clock for clock. in fact, an xp2000 can usually out fold a p4 2.0GHz.

make that a P4 @ 2550Ghz

-> check link in sig

example:

8.1 P612_villin_ext_ASP 00:03:17 15/12/2002 XP2000+
8.1 P612_villin_ext_ASP 00:04:42 15/12/2002 P4@2520

5.7 p616_trpzip2_nat_23C 00:01:35 12/12/2002 P4@2520
5.7 p616_trpzip2_nat_23C 00:01:22 12/12/2002 XP2000+