25264 9800: Tweaks for 2001SE

[LittleDevil]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8545693

I have:

-windows xp
-DX 8.1
-Omega 2.6.12

What else can i do? I want 26k :)
Are Omega 2.6.12 good drivers fo 2001SE or not?

[ibby]

people say windows xp is not good for bench marking
try windows 2k ?

[Highland3r]

Run windows 2k, ricky tweak, DX 8.1. Not sure on drivers though....
Nice GFX clocks for air :D

[Leon939]

6 months ago

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7987055

Bad CPU :( AMD64 3200+ S754

MSI 9800pro @ 9800XT :D

[Holst]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8276844

As the guys above have said win2k + 8.1 and the ricky/pedro multicpu tweak will help.
Removing services and killing unused hardware (sound and usb etc) helps a little.

I think newer drivers from ATI are quicker even on 9800 cards, I used cat4.11 for my scores, but even newer ones might be even better.

Memory bandwith is more important than CPU power for most people with A64 in 2001.

You should be able to get a very good score devil, as your pro clocks pretty good, much better than me on the memory and a good core.

[LittleDevil]

and the ricky/pedro multicpu tweak will help.

do you have link?

tnx

[andL64]

there was some Igor Pavlov (russian) drivers on the way they helped me clocking in ati-tool from 480 to 520-530+ :D these drivers were not WHQL or ATI approved but i got 27,5k best score in 2k01 with that drivers and my MSI 9800pro really nice card.... but still beer and my own fault killed it !

i really dont know which cat. based they were but i have them on my old hdd which is currently not in use but i ll search 4 it if i find them i ll tell ya!

i also thought to buy one again only because of that, because it gets the REAL KICK with that drivers, sure igor is a great person.

here it is:

[Formann]

Win2k SP4
Catalyst 4.12 / 4.11b
Not sure if the ACPI (Ricky/Pedro tweak) will make a difference with an Intel P4.

Remove all services you dont need.

Add ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1 to your system.ini


Looks like you have a real nice card there. 515 with 1.82v is pretty nice. Water or Air?

[LittleDevil]

Water cooled :banana:

Where can i find tdis (Ricky/Pedro tweak)?

Catalyst or Omega drivers?

tnx

[LittleDevil]

My last score ;)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8550467

[xman01]

there was some Igor Pavlov (russian) drivers on the way they helped me clocking in ati-tool from 480 to 520-530+ :D ...

how do drivers allow you to achieve those kinda oc's

[Gautam]

Every single tweak that's been listed for AMD's only... You don't use Win2k nor the Ricky tweak with Intels. Use the 4.12's and OPP's test order.

Mess around with IRQ priorities. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/CurrentControlset/Control/PriorityControl make a dword of IRQxPriority set to 1 where x is the IRQ you want to give priority to. 8 is the most common one as its the system timer but I got some pretty tangible gains by setting it to my video card's IRQ.

[blinky]

Every single tweak that's been listed for AMD's only... You don't use Win2k nor the Ricky tweak with Intels. Use the 4.12's and OPP's test order.

Mess around with IRQ priorities. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/CurrentControlset/Control/PriorityControl make a dword of IRQxPriority set to 1 where x is the IRQ you want to give priority to. 8 is the most common one as its the system timer but I got some pretty tangible gains by setting it to my video card's IRQ.could you show some screenies of before and after on this tweak

[Gautam]

I'm gonna do some thorough runs sometime later this week. It most certainly bumped my Nature from 272 FPS to 277. It's not gonna be earth shattering, but it was enough to catch my eye, especially since nature is such a consistent(and generally untweakable) test.

[Bennah]

Win XP for Intel rigs in 3D 01 ;)

[LittleDevil]

andL64: I found one Omega drivers. :)

http://freeweb.siol.net/akersman/omega.JPG

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=923

[andL64]

yeah thats an igor pavlov one!

maybe this one is good, but dunno.

That what i had were older much older and i wouldnt recommend using this "new" drivers begin in june 04 so 4.6 and go backwards. u want to hit good scores in 01 with a 9800pro but u use drivers 4 X8xx Cards, u understand me?

also the igor pavlov one was based on a default cat. version maybe it was between 3.8-4.6 like that.

seEn

PS: how did it come my card clocked then so well? i think it had more power than first impression was with cat. drivers when i searched for a good driver there were lots of diffrences between them. The Igor Ones helped me in overclock and stability also Ati tool didnt recognize errors so fast as with def. cat. ones. Finllay with 530+ core there were still errors, but i managed it 510-515core without in ati tool and benching still 1,95-2,05V on the core!

[LittleDevil]

My last two scores...

9800

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8588558

9700

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8588559

:banana:

[Holst]

Nice one, your catching me up.

If you can get your ram clock up (as I have 260) you will beat my score and probably go top10.

keep up the good work.

[LittleDevil]

I need better CPU and ram, than will be 28k or 29k whith 9800 on TEC cooling...

tnx

[[cTx]Philosophy]

lol i feel like a noob here i have a 9800 pro with no overclocking on it, it once hit 20241 with omega 2.4.97a and now im benching at 18,986 :(
on 246X10 2-2-28-14-16 xp2600 mobile
How can i improve this
also on windows xp pro
im not going for any world records or anything here by far
i just would like atleast 21k and hopefully more
its all on air and 9800 has silencer on it rev 2 and has been clocked to 412\365 which is xt speeds ( as u all know already ) but artifacts like crazt in ati tool.I wanna get card drivers good first then oc the card.

[Highland3r]

18.9k sounds ~ right for a stock VGA on that system. That 20k might well have been at XT speeds or something maybe?
Switching to 2k dx 8.1 and the 4.12 cats should gain you a little as well.
If you're limited to 9800XT speeds (as this is where the card artifacts now) then 21k is going to be very hard to break without MUCH more system power. Dont use ATI tool to artifact test, loop 3dmark a few times, 01, 03 and 05 and play a game for a couple of hours. ATI tool, is a bit crap ;)
If you can get clocks up to ~ 430-435/370-380 you should clear 20k happily, might well be pushing on for 20.5-21k :)

[Jamo]

yeah thats an igor pavlov one!

Igor Pavlov wrote the compression software they use, there NOT written by him at all, there just normal 4.12 omega drivers shown, i really dont see how different drivers can give you a 50mhz better oc, perhaps it was there all the time but you just got it stable using those drivers

as for mine, well its only a lowly 9800SE @ 8 pipes but check scores in sig, not bad for crap stock cooling all round, only real tweak used was ricky tweak and opp's test order, i dont have win2k or i'd give that a go + i have crap 3.3ns ram that doesnt like anything over 380ish but the core is a good one for an R350 - just nned to get a silencer i think and i might break out the vmods

[massman]

Every single tweak that's been listed for AMD's only... You don't use Win2k nor the Ricky tweak with Intels. Use the 4.12's and OPP's test order.

Mess around with IRQ priorities. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/CurrentControlset/Control/PriorityControl make a dword of IRQxPriority set to 1 where x is the IRQ you want to give priority to. 8 is the most common one as its the system timer but I got some pretty tangible gains by setting it to my video card's IRQ.


what is opp's test order ?

[harleybro]

dl, ll, ch, dh, lh, n, cl re-run car low until best score. :)

[andL64]

Igor Pavlov wrote the compression software they use, there NOT written by him at all, there just normal 4.12 omega drivers shown, i really dont see how different drivers can give you a 50mhz better oc, perhaps it was there all the time but you just got it stable using those drivers

as for mine, well its only a lowly 9800SE @ 8 pipes but check scores in sig, not bad for crap stock cooling all round, only real tweak used was ricky tweak and opp's test order, i dont have win2k or i'd give that a go + i have crap 3.3ns ram that doesnt like anything over 380ish but the core is a good one for an R350 - just nned to get a silencer i think and i might break out the vmods


well, maybe so

i dont know igor pavlov exactly only knew he s russian and if the drivers have his name he has sure something interesting done with it.

i dont speak of any of the 4.xx series drivers they are all crap for a 9800.
i remember it were some leaked drivers with 3.x, and i got 4 sure a higher much higher overclock, i dont know why this was and the card is now broken and i cant find the drivers on my harddisks agan so i cant pubilsh any shots nor the drivers sry *only my word*

believe or not but l igor is great man still i dont know him ;)

also i used winxp and have done no tweaks only disable some services....

seEn

[GoriLLakoS]

for intel which is the best catalysts?4.12?

and for amd?

[andL64]

also 4.12 with radeon 9xxx series is what i would use for gaming and so on but for benching i dont recommend this drivers in 3D01/03.

only have amd systems i dont know how the drivers are diffrent.

seEn

[Jamo]

dl, ll, ch, dh, lh, n, cl re-run car low until best score. :)

hmmm i've always used ll, dl, n, dh, lh, ch, cl till best score - i think a little experimentation might be in order for the XS grand prix :)

[Highland3r]

dl, ll, ch, dh, lh, n, cl re-run car low until best score. :)

Run the same :)
Though have found a slight variation
DL CH DH LL LH N re run CL can help with scores sometimes.

CH and DH get a little boost, and it doesnt seem to affect Lobby low at all :)

[craig588]

Win XP for Intel rigs in 3D 01 ;)

Unless you want higher scores.

Win 2K with P4C = 22923 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7948574)

Win XP with P4C = 22524 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7934871)

In the XP test the P4C was actually clocked higher than in the 2K test.