Heatercore/Shroud Enclosure [Archive]

Malph

04-23-2005, 11:32 PM

It seems that more and more people want to mount a heatercore/shroud on top of their case and enclose it all in a box for a cleaner appearance.
The idea with this box is that a hole gets cut in the top of the case for the heatercore to sit over, and another small hole gets cut to run a fan power cable and optional t-line for the fill port hole.
The box sits flush on top of the 302 core/shroud and has two 5 1/4" bays behind the front screen panel for a fan controller etc. The front panel screen would be partially cut so removal would be easy if the bays are going to be used.
I originally put the fans inside the enclose but that meant a much higher box and the use of 38mm fans otherwise thick spacers would be needed to fill the gap for thinner fans.
With the fans on top and set so their sucking air out of the case, the wires would also be external and have to enter back into the enclosure through a hole at the back.

Comments, suggestions?

MaxxxRacer

04-24-2005, 01:03 AM

very nice...

and i see our grill is on ther too!! btw im getting closer to 50 orders.. lol.. soon we will have a production run!!

Malph

04-24-2005, 07:11 AM

Thanks Maxx, ya the grill mated perfectly with the assembly.

One other thing, my plan was to use rails to support items placed into the bays. Components would slide in between rails attached to the inside of the box and they could be mounted with screws coming up vertically through the rail and into the bottom of the component. CD drives have holes in this location but I don't know about fan controllers and reservoirs(swiftech has side mounted screw holes only) So I may just use adjustable locks on the bottom rail to keep the items from sliding in and out and the rails themselves would keep items from moving up and down.

Circaflex

04-24-2005, 09:54 AM

Looks very nice, im sure a lot of people wont be able to say heatercores are the ugly now. Its good for people who dont want to cut their case to hell. Nice job

RaptorRaider

04-24-2005, 12:37 PM

It's a nice idea, but I'm afraid it's going to be more difficult and expensive to produce then it seems right now. For example:

What kind of mechanism are you going to use for the 5.25'' bays? Something like drive rails?
Are you going to provide bay covers? With small holes like mesh? And how about dustfilters?
What size is it going to be? Some cases have approximately the same width as 5.25'' bay devices, others will be wider and I think people will want it to fit perfectly on their cases.

I think there is still a lot of stuff to be done first, and I think people want to see prototypes first before they're actually going to consider buying it.

ferrari_freak

04-24-2005, 01:39 PM

looks cool. if those problems that RaptorRaider mentioned were fixed i might just consider buying it. but then again, i would be dumb to wc my 4 year old 850mhz athlon :p:

Malph

04-24-2005, 02:04 PM

It's a nice idea, but I'm afraid it's going to be more difficult and expensive to produce then it seems right now.

I'm quite sure I have not underestimated the difficulty of building the enclosure shown based on the description I made. This won't be my first time for such a build although it is a different application.

Yes, it is a mesh front panel and the bays would be covered with break away tabs holding them in place. Components slide in on rails and are prevented from moving in and out and up and down but they are not positively locked with screws unless the component has threaded holes in the bottom. I can only see this as being a problem for hard and optical drives that don't like vibration but that's not what this box is for.

This box is designed for people that have the ability to cut proper size holes in the top of their case and be able to shim up the heatercore/shroud flush with the box since no two heatercores are identical in thickness.
The width of the box will be 160mm with a 10mm base lip for a total width of 180mm.

Koei who is a member here, heard that I did projects such as this and it was from his request that I started on this. He get's to see the first prototype unit before I even think any farther ahead than that.

Filters, sorry, this box is for a DIY kind of person.

Nubius

04-24-2005, 04:13 PM

hmm, I was thinking about doing something like this (VERY simplistic drawing I will explain :D )

http://www.27thavenue.com/images/planh20.jpg

The pic on the left is the front view. The full black is my computer sitting on a home made box with two fans as intakes...the picture on the right is the side view with the rectangular thing on the bottom being the heatercore.

Basically a nice box and stand for my case to sit onto so that the heatercore can be at the bottom of the case, and with the box being enclosed (of course you could just make feet for the case and still mount the heatercore as well) a couple fans on the front, maybe one other on the back to push in air and then the 2*120mm fans on the inside of the case pulling the air through the heatercore and into the case.....

Might be more work than I care to do though :p but it sure would come out nice....might be worth it putting in that extra work and just making an overall nice project.

Malph

04-24-2005, 04:47 PM

Nubius, I agree that a rad box could serve a lot more purposes than a heatercore/shroud cover. Having a place for a pump/rad/shroud/res outside the case is something I have thought about as well.
I think both of these box types will appeal to different users.

Nubius

04-24-2005, 06:01 PM

Yeah, although I know mine really isn't meant for 'reselling' whereas it seems like you are on the track to actually making a nice little box to send out to people which would be nice to have.........I'd have to like....make a real damn good box, and mounting hardware and whatnot lol, and still people would have the cut the bottom of their case.

Good luck in your venture, worthwile idea, just gotta create it and market it right ;)

Which of course you already know with the fan grills going on hehe

shadowing

04-25-2005, 04:46 PM

Heck, I'd think I'd get one of those. It completely takes off a lot of height!

Any way to apply this to a MonsterCore?

Malph

04-25-2005, 09:44 PM

Heck, I'd think I'd get one of those. It completely takes off a lot of height!

Any way to apply this to a MonsterCore?

Monster Core would mean Monster Enclosure. Not something you can easily mount to the top of a case. An external rad box might be the way to go.

Actually, with a monster core mounted horizontal on the top of the case, you could draw partial air out of the case and through the core, and the amount overhanging would draw ambient air from around the case. It would make your case looked T shaped and maybe a little odd with a wrap around enclosure. Might take flight with monster fans!
A side panel enclosure could be better for a core of that size.

Weapon

04-26-2005, 04:36 AM

looks good. kinda like a slightly larger version of one I built a few months back but it was strictly a case for enclosing the shroud and core with no other bells or whistles. it turned out fairly well though, 20 gauge steel, internal shroud, 302 core lurking underneath... :)

http://www.cox-internet.com/weapon/images/gallarszd2.jpg

Malph

04-26-2005, 05:53 AM

A couple views with the components installed (302 core with shroud) and fan controller which is shown 120mm deep.

Weapon, I saw that picture once but I thought that was one of your early version shrouds.

shadowing

04-26-2005, 06:08 AM

Hey Weapon, when is your single heatercore "project" going to come out?

csimon

04-26-2005, 10:15 AM

Malph

04-26-2005, 10:30 AM

I just finished this single core box last night kinda like what was described above. It's been running ok all night if you'd like to see pics. Maybe you can shoot me some ideas since I've only been w/c a few weeks.
This particular box was made of 3/16" foamcore. The box I finished last night is made of 3/4" maple so I had to modify the layout and dimensions to accomodate for the larger material. The rad is now inverted rather than lying on it's side as shown in this drawing.

Sure, post some pictures of the finished unit.
You might want to have the opening in front of the rad square shaped and just a few mm smaller than the finned area of the rad to get air flowing through the entire core. What size heatercore is that?
Other than that it looks real good. 3/4" maple should be plenty strong to support the heaviest cases.

csimon

04-26-2005, 10:38 AM

it's a d-tek pro-core 120.
The front is the 120 inlet with an 80cfm fan.
The new way I have it set up at rad is that I have another 80cfm on the outside of the case exhausting. Just on the interior of that I have the small d-tek shroud that comes with it and the radiatior.
Lets see if I can describe that a little better.
filter>box hole>fan>space>rad>shroud>box hole>fan the space in between is for pump and tubing.

The design needs to be greatly improved because I was dealing with holes already drilled in the case and scrap cabinet lumber. So I was limited to only a few certain things but there is much room for improvement here.

csimon

04-26-2005, 07:12 PM

here goes!

Nubius

04-26-2005, 08:01 PM

csimon - I think that's actually what I'm gonna plan on doing, except probably a metal box with the 302 core inside of it......just gotta stop being lazy, make plans and put it into action lol.

Weapon

04-26-2005, 08:53 PM

Weapon, I saw that picture once but I thought that was one of your early version shrouds.

nah. the shroud was totally enclosed in the box with the core. While you cannot see it in the pic, the core was inside with the fittings facing downward to line up with cutouts in the top of a case for tubes to run to the inlet and outlet. The shroud bolted to the core and to the top of the enclosure that you can see in the pic. In order to make it as small as possible, it is slightly asymmetrical -- the end housing the top tanks was just a bit longer than the end for the bottom tanks (when measured from the fans).

I think I still have a couple other versions of the same type of enclosure here somewhere -- one has mesh/ducted intakes with rear mounted fittings, the other one has a temp sensor and some other gadgets bolted into it. :D

bling! :idea: that just gave me an idea....time to dig out the digital drawing board. :)

aMp

04-27-2005, 07:05 AM

csimon

04-27-2005, 10:30 AM

csimon - I think that's actually what I'm gonna plan on doing, except probably a metal box with the 302 core inside of it......just gotta stop being lazy, make plans and put it into action lol.
great!
do yourself a favor and don't invert the radiator if you can help it. Maybe lay it on it's side at the very least to allow the air to flow out easily. In my case I had no choice because of the layout of things but like I said there is plenty room for improvements in this design.
Also ...the metal case will free up a few inches of space for you and will be a better fit I'm sure.

shadowing

04-27-2005, 12:23 PM

How big is it if it's on the top of the case? And are there any smaller options besides the 3-302 and the 3-199?

Malph

04-27-2005, 02:36 PM

How big is it if it's on the top of the case? And are there any smaller options besides the 3-302 and the 3-199?

I'm not sure who's asking what to who anymore :)
The 302 is about the narrowest double core and best suited for a top mount. The 199 is about a half inch wider and would require a wider box. So for the time being, this project will be strictly for the 302 core. A 6" x 6" (chevette 2-261) single core is as wide as the 199 (6.125") but that would require a new shroud as well. Most single cores usually fit easy enough inside the case.

Weapon

04-27-2005, 03:22 PM

yeah - the 199, the 342, etc. would be pushing the box to the very edges of a standard case and they would have to have a bit of overlap on more narrow cases. the width of the 302 makes it an ideal solution for mounting on top of a case (or on the underside of a case top) as it is almost a perfect fit.

of course, the other viable option is buying a big honkin' full tower and putting everything + the kitchen sink in that sucker. :woot:

csimon

04-27-2005, 06:37 PM

Sure, post some pictures of the finished unit.
You might want to have the opening in front of the rad square shaped and just a few mm smaller than the finned area of the rad to get air flowing through the entire core. What size heatercore is that?
Other than that it looks real good. 3/4" maple should be plenty strong to support the heaviest cases.
I placed a layer of foam in there to make a more direct jetway from the intake fan to the radiator intake and it has definitely improved both the temps and the noise level.

shadowing

04-27-2005, 08:04 PM

Weapon, or Malph, can you kinda specify on the sizes of the Chevette Core, 2-302, 2-199, and the 2-342? I would really like to know cause I have no clue which one of these could even fit inside my case :(

Malph

04-27-2005, 08:36 PM

The overall dimensions including the end tanks are:

302: 5.50" x 12.250"
199: 6.00" x 11.00"
261: 6.00" x 7.250" (chevette)

I believe the 342 has the same dimensions as the 199 but it may have a slightly different length due to it's tank size.

shadowing

04-27-2005, 08:52 PM

What do you mean by slightly different length? As in less?

Do you by any chance have created a shroud for the chevette? It'd be pretty sweet to have one.

Malph

04-27-2005, 09:54 PM

The 342 will be between 11.00" and 11.125" in total length. Heatercores are not made to a tight tolerance so allow yourself at least an extra quarter inch.

shadowing

04-28-2005, 06:12 AM

Ok. Thx. I think I have a general idea of which heatercore to choose from.

Is the Chevette core okay for general slight oc? Does it have average performance?

Thx for answering all these questions.

Malph

04-28-2005, 11:00 AM

I ran a chevette core for about a year before I switched to a 199. Both were mounted at the lower front part of the case. I saw a five degree temp. drop by making the switch.

A chevette core will offer satisfactory cooling and it is a small package which many people like.
Watch for a new shroud prototype coming soon for this core.

Brandon_Tyler

04-28-2005, 12:27 PM

How much more difficult is it machining wise to create a shroud with fans and divider plate all mounted internally to the shroud?

-Brandon

Malph

04-28-2005, 01:52 PM

How much more difficult is it machining wise to create a shroud with fans and divider plate all mounted internally to the shroud?

-Brandon

If your asking about a one piece unit that had a built-in shroud section to fit over the heatercore than that would be difficult. The taper used for the shrould would determine the shape of the box and you need to create an air tight mount between both case to external box, and shroud to core.
It's easier to mount a pre built shroud into the box unless you were using an injection molding process.

shadowing

04-28-2005, 05:01 PM

Malph

04-29-2005, 07:59 AM

If you make it within a week, I'll be one to test out a prototype :D

It will be a bit longer than a week :D

Shroud for Chevette Core

Fan Grill design copyright MaxxxRacer
Shroud design copyright Weapon/Malph
:D

Malph

04-29-2005, 11:38 AM

OK, back to the original topic.
A few prototypes were made and test fitted with the 302 core and shroud inside. Seems OK so far. The front panel is going to have to wait until next week when I get the material and hardware in.

shadowing

04-29-2005, 02:09 PM

That makes me sad :( Oh well. Decided to just buy my own heatercore and make a shroud. Just save a lot of money there ;)

kamaleon

04-29-2005, 03:39 PM

very very nice !!

MaxxxRacer

04-29-2005, 04:40 PM

looking good malph.. cant wait to see it done.

csimon

04-29-2005, 06:15 PM

is that steel?
looks great!!! nice clean job.

MaxxxRacer

04-29-2005, 08:06 PM

its steel.

ced

04-29-2005, 10:11 PM

I think I'm going to make an enclosure, too, but I have some questions.

I plan on using acrylic plastic/lexan/plexiglass, since I think it's easier to work with then metal.

What do I need for ventilation? Obviously I need blowholes for the radiator, but do I need any cuts in the side for additional ventilation? I see that EXOS systems have side vents, but are they neccessary? I plan on having the pump, radiator, and resivoir inside, by the way.

Would the tubing (1/2") be able to fit through an expansion slot? How can I make the fan wiring look clean? Having a huge molex connector hanging out the back would look a bit stupid.

Do I really need a shroud? Having a shroud would make the enclosure quite a bit higher (I plan on having the fans and the radiator inside, unlike Weapon's picture on the first page).

csimon

04-30-2005, 09:06 AM

the purpose of the shroud is to distance the fan far enough away from the radiator so that it can have a full draw of the radiator surface - round fan square rad. It also acts as an enclosure to maximize performance so the better it is sealed the better it should work.
Basically it is an advantage to use a shroud and you can fabricate it from whatever material you use to construct your box if you want.
If you don't use a shroud of some sort you will lose much efficiency of the radiator.
It is theoretical and doesn't have to be perfect to function.

Weapon

04-30-2005, 12:28 PM

If your asking about a one piece unit that had a built-in shroud section to fit over the heatercore than that would be difficult. The taper used for the shrould would determine the shape of the box and you need to create an air tight mount between both case to external box, and shroud to core.
It's easier to mount a pre built shroud into the box unless you were using an injection molding process.

not to mention that would defeat any possibility of swapping out cores by changing shrouds within the case. if the shroud were machined into the enclosure, it would be almost impossible to make any changes to it...

OK, back to the original topic.
A few prototypes were made and test fitted with the 302 core and shroud inside. Seems OK so far. The front panel is going to have to wait until next week when I get the material and hardware in.

it looks really good (as usual, I wouldn't expect anything less from you at this point :) )

edit - last second thought - shipping those in volume will be $$$$$. lol.

I have some ideas that have been bouncing around in my head for the last few days -- I will email some stuff in a bit -- gotta finish some reviews first though. weeeee....new PSU, pump, dvd burner, 108mbps wireless router and a print server to play with today.

ferrari_freak

05-01-2005, 07:41 AM

malph, whenever i come back and have a look at this thread, i always get the urge to go liquid for my build this summer :slobber: looking awesome :toast: btw, wats the price gonna be for the box?

Malph

05-08-2005, 01:45 PM

Thanks for the comments guys!
I got some of the items I needed in this past week. Perforated material with a small hole diameteter is hard to find and damn expensive. Still haven't received the slider rail I have on order so I had to chop a larger rail down to size. It's off to the paint shop now.

http://img110.echo.cx/img110/3800/unpainted0ed.jpg

http://img110.echo.cx/img110/382/top8ft.jpg

http://img110.echo.cx/img110/4109/open3zo.jpg

spatman

05-08-2005, 01:53 PM

Now that is just perfect! How much you think something like that would cost to do Weapon's monster core?

Added...

Now I look at it more, it almost be impossible. Thats for external top mount right?

Malph

05-08-2005, 02:03 PM

The monstercore would only work in an enclosure mounted to one of the side panel since it's too big for a top mount on most cases. Even then, that's a lot of weight hanging off one side.

I can't think of a good way to mount a core like that directly to a standard case. Instead, a separate box would be best.

Just saw your edit, yes this is a top mount enclosure.

spatman

05-08-2005, 02:06 PM

Ya, This is how I have it now... I'm pretty pleased the way it came out!

Malph

05-08-2005, 02:13 PM

Nice job!
Just wondering why you didn't mount the core/shroud directly to the box?

spatman

05-08-2005, 02:18 PM

Well, the core looks so damn good I hate to inclose it! Also I was going for something less box like. Also its very easy to remove the core like this to dump it.

MaxxxRacer

05-08-2005, 02:28 PM

Malph, looking good man.. i love the solution to the drive bay. VERY clean look to it.

btw guys

DO NOT ASK MALPH FOR PRICING ON OPEN FORUMS. PLEASE SEND HIM A PM TO DO SO

posting prices of an item is in violation of the XS user agreement and would lead to reprimand from XS moderator(s)

thnks for following the rules!

spatman

05-08-2005, 02:29 PM

oops!

ferrari_freak

05-10-2005, 12:30 PM

wow..... :slobber: that has got to be the best looking external heatercore. looks so much nicer than just placing it there and everything just showing.... keep up the good work. :toast:

a5h

05-10-2005, 01:08 PM

wow... very nice MALPH! must weigh a ton tho :D

Malph

05-10-2005, 01:34 PM

Thanks guys!
The drive bay did present a challenge especially with the fill port hole there.
I'll have to throw an assembled unit on a scale but the housing weighs only a couple of pounds at the most. The heatercore/shroud and fans add a few more pounds.
Not really much different than any external top mount.

I should have some pictures of the enclosure installed a bit later.

MaxxxRacer

05-10-2005, 02:06 PM

very cool. cant wait.

Brandon_Tyler

05-10-2005, 07:53 PM

I thought I might throw my external box into the mix:

-Brandon

ferrari_freak

05-13-2005, 05:21 PM

love the glow there brandon :slobber:

Malph

05-13-2005, 09:59 PM

Not yet mounted since it will be attached to a different case that's not quite ready yet.
Anyway, this is the final outcome minus the fill port and a change in fan controllers.

http://img170.echo.cx/img170/659/flatblack0016ca.jpg

http://img170.echo.cx/img170/339/flatblack0053fe.jpg

Malph

05-31-2005, 02:59 PM

Update
I made a more compact enclosure for a shallower case. It still has room for a 302core/shroud, fillport, and a thin LCD unit.

http://img155.echo.cx/img155/2766/box3006resize0ze.jpg

http://img155.echo.cx/img155/7035/box30051qi.jpg

http://img171.echo.cx/img171/3403/box3004resize6sh.jpg

http://img171.echo.cx/img171/270/box3002resize0oz.jpg

MaxxxRacer

05-31-2005, 04:27 PM

looking good man. exxos killers these are.

koei

06-05-2005, 12:18 AM

Got it mounted and running on an Antec case, woot! (Man I wish they made all their cases in Aluminium. With everything in there, it weights a ton. My back is sore from moving it around and tilting it for bleeding) Still playing with the CrystalFontz since it requires some configuring to get it to show just what you want, but I am done, it will display heatercore and ambient temp. It will also be able to control fan voltage. Gonna get another one of these for my main system to cool the X800XL or maybe CF setup when it comes out.

http://members.shaw.ca/spicy/Heatercore/DSCF0029.JPG
http://members.shaw.ca/spicy/Heatercore/DSCF0030.JPG
http://members.shaw.ca/spicy/Heatercore/DSCF0034.JPG
http://members.shaw.ca/spicy/Heatercore/DSCF0036.JPG
http://members.shaw.ca/spicy/Heatercore/DSCF0037.JPG
http://members.shaw.ca/spicy/Heatercore/DSCF0040.JPG

Temp on it is awesome, 30C at idle and 38C at load at 1.72vcore and 100% fan, but I run them at 70% and only difference is 2C at load. Much better than what I had and airflow inside case is incredibly high.

MaxxxRacer

06-05-2005, 12:40 AM

btw where is ure res/ t line...?

koei

06-05-2005, 01:07 AM

It's there connected to the outlet of the pump. Speaking of T-line, I was wondering that if I had connected it at the right place. I remembering reading that it was the right place to put it but was never 100% sure.

MaxxxRacer

06-05-2005, 01:42 AM

you got it perfectly in the wrong place but thats ok.

ur T line shoudl be right BEFORE the pump. not after. put it right before the suction side of the pump. it should increase ur flow a tad. (note since ur using a T line the increase wont be as much but if u were using a rad the difference would be huge)

koei

06-05-2005, 05:04 AM

Ok fixed. Thanks for the info.

MaxxxRacer

06-05-2005, 06:24 AM

no prob. glad i could be of some service.

koei

06-05-2005, 04:00 PM

Switching in a new pump and fiddled around more with the LCD.

http://members.shaw.ca/spicy/Heatercore/DSCF0041.JPG

racinjimy

06-07-2005, 08:30 AM

sweet setups all around.................... :slobber:

nice clean boxes, makes me wish I was a little more adventuresome with my build

Malph

07-03-2005, 03:42 PM

I almost finished with this new enclosure that hopefully won't look as bulky on top of the case. The heatercore will hang about one inch below the enclosure base to give it a lower profile. There goes the top drive bay!

MaxxxRacer

07-03-2005, 05:35 PM

VERY nice malp.

btw mike, i found a friend in the states who owns a machine ship with a laser cutter and i think i will be able to do the fans for about 1/3 of the cost as you quoted me on. he also does the finishing work in house.

TCounceller

07-03-2005, 05:48 PM

That would be me....
Is that 2-199 HC?
And, do you have the CAD files for it if you did it in CAD =P I'm cutting the flat blank for one soon; and it'd be nifty to have that rather than going through the normal steps.
Also doing near-exactly what you've done with the above (Koei's first set.)
Only I'm actually extending the case.. kind've.
I'll post pics when I finish.

Malph

07-03-2005, 06:09 PM

Thanks Maxx

It sounds like you getting a good price for the grills if that's the case. Different style laser cutting machines (pallet vs. cutting table) are more suitable for certain style parts. All those cut-outs were a b*tch as they would often not fall all the way out and instead flip up and catch the cutting head.

To TCounceller
If your talking about the grill, Maxx has the auto-cad drawing for the 302 shroud grill since he drew it to begin with.

TCounceller

07-03-2005, 06:29 PM

Ours is a Mitubishi pallet.
120x60..
here's a picture.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/trevor_r_C/8495c5f6.jpg
I already have the solidworks file for the grill =)
I was asking about the shroud itself, I'm constructing one of my own and I'm going to cut it on the laser, so a .dxf file for the flat blank would save me loads of time.

I understand the concern though.
How bad was the heat-buildup/warp-caused on the ones you cut? And how many watts were you guys running it at?

Thanks
--Trevor

Edit:
Woah; the actual concept of your enclosure just hit me.
I was planning to stick the rad on top; then the shroud, then have an enclosure surround the entire thing, with a hole for the fans; however, after reading your concept/looking at the dwgs; I like it quite a bit better.

Any chance you'd mind if I used it (the idea itself)? It'd save me around 3 inches I was planning on having off the top of the side of my case.

Edit x2:
Wow I feel stupid.. Maxxx linked me to the third page, and I hadn't gone back and bothered to read the 2nd.
Disregard most of what I said in the first edit.

MaxxxRacer

07-03-2005, 07:01 PM

mike, btw this is the friend i was mentioning ^^^...

TCounceller

07-03-2005, 07:20 PM

Here we go:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/trevor_r_C/update.jpg
Just an idea.
I'd cut a hole in the top of the case, have the shrouds/fan come out through there, then enclose the ENTIRE thing around the case (black line painted) to look like an extension of the case itself.

I'd lose two drive bays, but it'd save me around 3 inches on top of the case. =) (having it internal rather than extending it...)

Malph

07-03-2005, 07:21 PM

TCounceller

The first batch of grills were cut on a pallet table and if that job was ever run again, some of the slats would be pulled to let the cut-outs fall through and not flip up due to the rungs. Also the g-code would be alterered so that the head is always moving away from the last cut-out. Otherwise it would take raising the head an inch above the material after each cut.
The pieces didn't warp and if I remember correctly the cut conditions were 4000w, 220ipm with N2 assist gas.
Send me a pm with an e-mail add. and I will send the dxf.

Malph

07-03-2005, 07:32 PM

I just saw your drawing. The first enclosures I made had componets in this order;case top, heatercore, shroud, enclosure, fans
The second one is the same except the heatercore drops into the case about an inch but it's still supported by the enclosure.
They all use the 2-302 core which is narrower and longer than the 2-199.

Your layout would need a different enclosure altogether.

TCounceller

07-03-2005, 07:37 PM

Yeah, I realized that. Occured to me that I really didn't want to go through all the extra cutting work for 2/3 inches though, so I'll probably go with your enclosure idea, regardless.

Malph

07-16-2005, 02:17 PM

I finally got around to completing the new enclosure. I've got just the case to use as a guniea pig.

http://img155.echo.cx/img155/9913/bottom3wh.jpg

http://img155.echo.cx/img155/7311/components8gs.jpg

MaxxxRacer

07-16-2005, 05:28 PM

mike, it looks very nice indeed.

Malph

07-16-2005, 09:49 PM

mike, it looks very nice indeed.

Thanks Maxx

Once it's mounted I will temporarily have the current 2-199 heatercore in the lower front and the 302 on top. Just to see what change if any two rads will make.
Too bad I wont be able to use the XS fan grill, too many little fingers around here. I need a "kid safe" grill.......

Malph

07-24-2005, 11:01 AM

No way two rads are going to fit in this case with the tubing I had on hand.
Anyway, the project is finished and having speed control on the fans (instead of just running them at 7 volt) and the larger rad gave me a nice drop in temps of roughly 5 deg. with a slight noise increase.
The flash is dead on the camera so I need to take outdoor shots or dark indoor shots :(

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/166/boxtop3gu.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3134/side2ks.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2711/darkfront14cq.jpg