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bito
02-12-2005, 04:11 AM
Does anyone have dfi sli or ultra-d with antec TP480W (20 pins ) and x800Xl or something similar working stable ????

I am using an Enhance ENS-0246 460w 20 pin psu......all power connections made to the board and runs fine. All rails look good and well within spec.

wampir
02-12-2005, 04:50 AM
thanks for info , what graphic card you got ?? Did you overclock it a litlle ?? Casuse I got winnie 9x312 1.55V ;)

Snowman89
02-12-2005, 06:15 AM
any one more than me that cant use over 3.6vdimm ?
if i select 3.7 it ust says when xp would load that a file is corrupted and i need to reinstall but lowering it back to 3.6 works :( is it a bios issue or a hardware problem?

esdee
02-12-2005, 06:23 AM
any one more than me that cant use over 3.6vdimm ?
if i select 3.7 it ust says when xp would load that a file is corrupted and i need to reinstall but lowering it back to 3.6 works :( is it a bios issue or a hardware problem?

it sounds like your mem can't hadle that much voltage or a week PSU ...

bito
02-12-2005, 06:29 AM
thanks for info , what graphic card you got ?? Did you overclock it a litlle ?? Casuse I got winnie 9x312 1.55V ;)

Great overclock there.....what cooling have you got on that puppy??
Stepping of the processor?

wampir
02-12-2005, 06:45 AM
Zalman 7kcu and open window :cool:

Steppng I dont remember ...

brassen
02-12-2005, 10:44 AM
Seems the problem I had earlier was software related, did a clean reinstall with 6.39 and everything is working fine atm.
EDIT: Maybe the wrong thread for this kinda question, but I've heard that NCQ is something you need drivers for, is this true? If so where can I find such drivers.

[SuPeRmAn]
02-12-2005, 11:20 AM
i've noticed that the vdimm options from 3.2v to 4.0v only apear in the bios when the jumper is set to the 5v power..... but i wanted to use the 3.3v rail of a OCZ powerstream.

is any of the beta bioses capable of showing all the options when 3.3v rail is being used? im asking because i'm waiting for my pci-e gfx to assemble my rig and havent seen the bios menu myself

cheers

cantankerous
02-12-2005, 11:30 AM
this is what I have been wonderint too. When bigtoe first tested the board he said he had his powerstream at 3.5v on the 3.3v rail and was running his ram at 3.4v. Then the boards started shipping and all I hear about is the 5v line having to be used for dimms yet it gets very hot and unstable this way. Tony recommended using the 3.3v line to remedy this.

Can you even raise vdimm on the 3.3v line of this board or are you stuck using the 5v line for anything over 3.2?

mrlobber
02-12-2005, 12:37 PM
any one more than me that cant use over 3.6vdimm ?
if i select 3.7 it ust says when xp would load that a file is corrupted and i need to reinstall but lowering it back to 3.6 works :( is it a bios issue or a hardware problem?

I can't use any Vdimm higher than 3.4v. Memtest gives tons of errors almost immediately at any speeds.

this is what I have been wonderint too. When bigtoe first tested the board he said he had his powerstream at 3.5v on the 3.3v rail and was running his ram at 3.4v. Then the boards started shipping and all I hear about is the 5v line having to be used for dimms yet it gets very hot and unstable this way. Tony recommended using the 3.3v line to remedy this.

Can you even raise vdimm on the 3.3v line of this board or are you stuck using the 5v line for anything over 3.2?

Seems to be the latter. What is interesting, I measured with a DMM, the board overvolts by around 0.1v - and gives 3.7 volts instead of 3.6 (set in bios), and doesn't move under load (error load of memtest :p: ). Of course, this fact does nothing fgood or me anyway, as, how I already said, anything over 3.4Vdimm is just plain crashing. Vdimm derived from 3.3v rail didn't give me any more stability over the 5v source at all at the lower Vdimm (3.2 and less) settings.

mikead_99
02-12-2005, 12:49 PM
this is what I have been wonderint too. When bigtoe first tested the board he said he had his powerstream at 3.5v on the 3.3v rail and was running his ram at 3.4v. Then the boards started shipping and all I hear about is the 5v line having to be used for dimms yet it gets very hot and unstable this way. Tony recommended using the 3.3v line to remedy this.

Can you even raise vdimm on the 3.3v line of this board or are you stuck using the 5v line for anything over 3.2?

Apparently the bios bigtoe used was similar to the 250Gb. Raising the +3.3V rail with 2/09 NF4 bios caps the mem around 3.27V. My rail goes to 3.85V or so. I'm hoping they change this.

Tip: When switching from +3.3 VDimm to +5V, reset cmos. Mine wouldn't post until I did so.

mrlobber, here's hoping I don't see your problems. Playing with BH-5 now, hit a limit at 245 with 3.27V so moved to +5V. Only doing 245 at 3.3V now but I'll be working it on up. I would consider RMA'ing your board. I have seen that we should expect problems with +5V, but I have seen more people doing OK until 3.6V or 3.7V, 3.4V sucks!

eva2000
02-12-2005, 01:06 PM
Apparently the bios bigtoe used was similar to the 250Gb. Raising the +3.3V rail with 2/09 NF4 bios caps the mem around 3.27V. My rail goes to 3.85V or so. I'm hoping they change this.

Tip: When switching from +3.3 VDimm to +5V, reset cmos. Mine wouldn't post until I did so.

mrlobber, here's hoping I don't see your problems. Playing with BH-5 now, hit a limit at 245 with 3.27V so moved to +5V. Only doing 245 at 3.3V now but I'll be working it on up. I would consider RMA'ing your board. I have seen that we should expect problems with +5V, but I have seen more people doing OK until 3.6V or 3.7V, 3.4V sucks!
so even psu 3.3v rail set at 3.6v still = 3.27v vdimm with 2.09 bios for DFI NF4 ? that ain't good if true :(

eva2000
02-12-2005, 01:12 PM
http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/CG/DFInF4/cmout.jpg

What you want ? :banana:
LOL someone hit the buy now button a few too many times :D

setyotomo
02-12-2005, 01:17 PM
Tip: When switching from +3.3 VDimm to +5V, reset cmos. Mine wouldn't post until I did so.

my trick is..
1. set to 3.1v or 3.2v
2. set 2-2-2-5
3. no auto on vcore (just like DFI manual said)
4. boot to windows and then shut down
5. unplug power and monitor (u should do this)
6. switch the jumper
7. plug the power n monitor again ( ussualy hang and need 1 restart & everything will be okay ;) )
8. if it hangs ... ussualy because of the monitor plug .. just unplug and plug it again
9. still hangs? unplug/plug vga card ..
10. still hangs??? - happened to me once - clear cmos and leave it like 15 minutes or so... grab a beer or hot tea... take some pictures...

cheers :)

skate2snow
02-13-2005, 05:20 AM
I am stable up to 260MHz on 3.5V but as soon as it goes over 3.6V, I'm unstable and can't get to windows. But, in the BIOS it shows the voltage increase. And The OCZ Booster wont go higher then 3.68V, but it seems that it is more stable with the OCZ booster, but you cant really put the Booster strategically...

This problem is something DFI should seriously look into...

cantankerous
02-13-2005, 05:47 AM
If bigtoe was using a different bios I Want that bios. I have a powerstream that can do into the 3.7v range on my 3.3v rail. I would love to get 3.5-3.6v on my ram using that instead of the jumper.

So skate2snow you tried the booster and have no issues? There has been no official word on whether the booster worked on the DFI NF4 boards but I Was hoping to hear of some results as I would get a booster if it is more stable.

Blindbat
02-13-2005, 06:01 AM
Seems the problem I had earlier was software related, did a clean reinstall with 6.39 and everything is working fine atm.
EDIT: Maybe the wrong thread for this kinda question, but I've heard that NCQ is something you need drivers for, is this true? If so where can I find such drivers.

NCQ managed by 6.39 driver you've installed, to activate/deactivate go to hard drive property in windows.

Sephir0th
02-13-2005, 06:24 AM
I have a new issue.. It seems somewhere along the way of me trying to find a stable overclock (which i still havnt been able to do) ive lost my sound. Trying to open nvmixer it says no nvidia sound hardware detected. In bios the AC97 sound thing is still set to Auto, dont know if theres any other sound related bios settings.. help?

skate2snow
02-13-2005, 06:32 AM
The Booster is NOT recommended by me.... First, you dont have a good gain. and Second, you cannot put it when you are dual channel if it is not modded....

Slimmie
02-13-2005, 10:20 PM
I have the Ultra-D but there seems to be a little problem with my G.Skill PC4400 Le memory. On my MSI Neo4 Platinum I could do 289mhz 2.5-3-3-7 @ 2.75v 15 passes in memtest without errors.

On my DFI I'm getting alot of errors en reboots on the same settings. After setting up the voltage to 3.1v and the timings at 2.5-4-3-7 my systeem is a lot more stable, but I still got errors in memtest. Because TCCD don't need much voltage I am afraid to use 3.2v or higher. With 3.1v my ram is very hot.

The settings on my MSI: HTT: 289, LDT: 3, Mp: 9, ram @ 2.5-3-3-7 2.75v
The settings on my DFI: HTT: 289, LDT: 3, Mp: 9, ram @ 2.5-4-3-7 3.1v

Maybe an different bios will help me.

Anyone how to deal with this? I don't now if this is a bug, but for me it's a big bug.

Please help me.

eva2000
02-13-2005, 10:25 PM
Slimmie you using 209 bios ?

graham_h
02-13-2005, 11:59 PM
Having a few problems i have just got my DFI SLi-D and i put it all together and all i get is a continues beep / no video out put HELP........((i have ocz plat. rev.1 ram, 3200+ cpu,1x asus 6600gt))

Xcalibur
02-14-2005, 12:38 AM
Having a few problems i have just got my DFI SLi-D and i put it all together and all i get is a continues beep / no video out put HELP........((i have ocz plat. rev.1 ram, 3200+ cpu,1x asus 6600gt))

If it's any consolation Graham, there won't be a problem with you RMA'ing the board ;) :D

BTW Graham, you'll be receiving an email from me later this evening regarding TNT's "stellar" service... FYI, I don't have my board yet :mad:

eva2000
02-14-2005, 12:43 AM
Having a few problems i have just got my DFI SLi-D and i put it all together and all i get is a continues beep / no video out put HELP........((i have ocz plat. rev.1 ram, 3200+ cpu,1x asus 6600gt))
what psu ? tried connecting onboard 4pin molex too ? tried cmos reset + 1 stick of ram first to update to 209 bios ?

jarvo
02-14-2005, 01:09 AM
graham_h,

make sure your card is seated properly.
i had the same problem, ive got an x800xl and a cm stacker, one of the bolts on a dvi connector was touching the case.
This was slightly stopping the card from seating properly, you couldnt tell to the naked eye, but as soon as i removed the bolt it booted up no problem.

graham_h
02-14-2005, 01:16 AM
ok more info, i have the cmstacker but no it does not get stuck with the dvi screw BUT the card does rest on the southbridge.

i have a antec 550 true

i have a molex pluged in to the board, it powers up but does not give video only long beeps (i do not know if this will help but out of the 4 led at the bottom of the board only the first 3 light up)

Slimmie
02-14-2005, 03:01 AM
Slimmie you using 209 bios ?


I use the bios on de first message of this topic on page 1.

This one:

1. LDT default set at 5x.
2. Fixed IR connection failure.
3. Fixed Boot failure when installing certain CL2 memory modules.

Get it here:
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/NF4LD201.zip

Jaan
02-14-2005, 03:09 AM
I have a strange problem- I can't change CAS Latency value in bios.
mobo work with Auto and CL2 ONLY.
If i choose CL2,5, it even not post, if CL3- it boot, restart and freeze again.
Tryed this with 2x512MB tccd, 2x256MB BH5- still same problem.
The worst thing is, if I boot-up with CL2, I can't change CL value in windows too (with A64Tweaker)- it freeze instantly.
The earlier bios (1,24/1,25) do not allow me to changing any taimings in bios, accept CL= Auto to CL=2, ANY change on other taimnigs give me no post, freeze or message "corrupted file bla-bla"
But earlier bioses allow me changing taimings in windows, including CL value.
:confused:

DFI UT NF4 SLI-D R.A00 bios- 2.09
2x512MB Patriot tccd/2x256MB BH5
winchester 3000+
PCI video

Hanu
02-14-2005, 05:59 AM
Just a little OC on Air....

http://picserver.mirror.twistspace.com/img.php?/GIZS2N9J69LY/YK3415415S85/JPEG/1108058535//e71r

If you want to buy good memory for DFI..... buy 2x512 A-Data 566 :p: They make 300 with only 2,6V... Completely stable SuperPi/Prime. I can reach 322 3-4-4-11 too, but MemTest shows errors.

http://picserver.mirror.twistspace.com/img.php?/Y9WU3R5DHMBB/S390904ZG363/JPEG/1108300359//e71r

AMDnewbie
02-14-2005, 07:17 AM
I have a strange problem- I can't change CAS Latency value in bios.
mobo work with Auto and CL2 ONLY.
If i choose CL2,5, it even not post, if CL3- it boot, restart and freeze again.
Tryed this with 2x512MB tccd, 2x256MB BH5- still same problem.
The worst thing is, if I boot-up with CL2, I can't change CL value in windows too (with A64Tweaker)- it freeze instantly.
The earlier bios (1,24/1,25) do not allow me to changing any taimings in bios, accept CL= Auto to CL=2, ANY change on other taimnigs give me no post, freeze or message "corrupted file bla-bla"
But earlier bioses allow me changing taimings in windows, including CL value.
:confused:

DFI UT NF4 SLI-D R.A00 bios- 2.09
2x512MB Patriot tccd/2x256MB BH5
winchester 3000+
PCI video

This board like to power down completely after drastic change in ram timing...
even for those settings that store inside the cmos-reloaded i must also power the whole rig down and on it back after a while else it won't boot into windows..

corrupted file is definitely ram settings out that affect normal booting..

no problem for me w cl2 nor cl2.5 now w 0209 bios...

xgman
02-14-2005, 09:44 AM
0201 shows tref @200mhz 3.9us
0209 shows tref @166mhz 3.9us

0209 better for tccd.

ea6gka
02-14-2005, 02:00 PM
guys , have anyone noticed Hynix D43 and DFI nF4 incompatability issues? there are some people who cannot pass 210 memtest errofre e at any setting

[G.N.U.]Fragman
02-14-2005, 05:26 PM
i damn hope not......my ocz pc4200EL should hopefully run fine with this board...... :(

skate2snow
02-14-2005, 06:59 PM
Hey does anyone know what the FDD connector on the middle of the board is for?

brassen
02-14-2005, 09:16 PM
"Added stability when using SLI" or something like that DFI says.
I'm having some problems with my USB mouse, I've enabled both the keyboard and the mouse in the bios, but when booting into windows only my keyboard responds. If i pull out the mouse cable and put it in again it works, anyone know why this happens?

furyfax
02-15-2005, 07:00 AM
I did something stupid to my mobo today. I decided to try to oc the computer today, done it loads of times before, though never with a DFI mobo.
So I turned of the computer, and moved the pin so I could access 4V and 2.1V on the CPU.
Then I entered the bios and took the cpu start value to 1.45V, and then there was something else below something like VDI CPU voltage or something can't remember so I set that to 1.55V and I also changer something else to VDI * 136% or something like that. And then I restarted my computer. And now when I try to start the computer it starts for about 1/2 second and turns itself off. Please dont attack my for beeing a neewbie when it comes to DFI mobo's. Please help me.
This is what I have tried to do:
1. Moved the CMOS pin to pin 2-3 instead of 1-2 for some seconds and then back again. That didnt work.

2. Tried to move the bin which starts a safe boot or something, that didnt helt.

3. I took out the battery in the mobo and waited 15 min. That didnt work either.

Snowman89
02-15-2005, 07:05 AM
I did something stupid to my mobo today. I decided to try to oc the computer today, done it loads of times before, though never with a DFI mobo.
So I turned of the computer, and moved the pin so I could access 4V and 2.1V on the CPU.
Then I entered the bios and took the cpu start value to 1.45V, and then there was something else below something like VDI CPU voltage or something can't remember so I set that to 1.55V and I also changer something else to VDI * 136% or something like that. And then I restarted my computer. And now when I try to start the computer it starts for about 1/2 second and turns itself off. Please dont attack my for beeing a neewbie when it comes to DFI mobo's. Please help me.
This is what I have tried to do:
1. Moved the CMOS pin to pin 2-3 instead of 1-2 for some seconds and then back again. That didnt work.

2. Tried to move the bin which starts a safe boot or something, that didnt helt.

3. I took out the battery in the mobo and waited 15 min. That didnt work either.
you probably killed your cpu, what cooling and what cpu?

furyfax
02-15-2005, 07:15 AM
winchester 3500+, I bought it boxed. But wouldn't the mobo start even though my CPU is dead? But why is it killed? I'm not sure i understand what i did in the bios. But the board can give up to 2.1V on the CPU. So if i had switched it to 2.1V, when i restarted the computer was only on for 1/2 second, is that enough time to kill the CPU ?

tictac
02-15-2005, 07:16 AM
check your cpu with other board 1st

2.1V :hehe:

Snowman89
02-15-2005, 07:17 AM
check your cpu with other board 1st

2.1V :hehe:
yeah lol would like to se the 3500+ that can live with 2.1v with stock cooler :banana4:

furyfax
02-15-2005, 07:27 AM
i dont have any other mobo's or money.. LOL :help:..
But did I switch to 2.1V when I did what I described en my earlier post ?

tictac
02-15-2005, 07:48 AM
yes you switch the CPU voltage to 2.1V :hehe:

ea6gka
02-15-2005, 07:57 AM
so noone has hynix D43 mem and DFI nf4 to tell us if he has met any problems?

Xerxes
02-15-2005, 08:13 AM
i've got some ram im not sure if its hynix d43 or d5 but im going to test it this afternoon as i cant get my pqi tccd to work worth crap, i had it going at 240 2.5-3-3-10 and it was working great now all of the sudden it fails in memtest after about 22min

aristos87
02-15-2005, 08:45 AM
There is a broblem with my hynix d43 i have DDR500 ADATA 3 4 4 8 and i can't boot on 220 even 220x9 :eek:

xgman
02-15-2005, 09:16 AM
"Added stability when using SLI" or something like that DFI says.
I'm having some problems with my USB mouse, I've enabled both the keyboard and the mouse in the bios, but when booting into windows only my keyboard responds. If i pull out the mouse cable and put it in again it works, anyone know why this happens?


I had this issue on a pre release board but not my replacement one. Make sure to use bios 209.

brassen
02-15-2005, 12:36 PM
I had this issue on a pre release board but not my replacement one. Make sure to use bios 209.

Nah, that's the only problem I've had with the 1/25 bios, and I don't want to try out that beta bios after all these sudden deaths.

mrlobber
02-15-2005, 12:42 PM
Nah, that's the only problem I've had with the 1/25 bios, and I don't want to try out that beta bios after all these sudden deaths.

If sudden deaths were just bios related, you could rescue the board with a spare bios chip or hotflash the killed one. Obviously, this isn't the case when people suddenly have their boards completely dead, even without being able to switch them on.

bito
02-15-2005, 01:25 PM
I also have a problem with ADATA DDR500 on the DFI NF4's.....Tried two boards and all different bios's. One for Oskar to resolve i think.

steve-0
02-15-2005, 03:19 PM
hello guys

i just purchased one of those Ultra-D :p: and i realised there is an small (but very important) bug and i'm not sure if it's cause the mobo or cause the memory controler (CPU). i can't boot with a different multiplier than 9x (i've got a a 3000+); well, i can bot a 200HTT; but not about 250+. What do you think?
i'm using the 209bios

regards!

and excuse again my english!

jikdoc
02-15-2005, 04:54 PM
you probably killed your cpu, what cooling and what cpu?

no he didn't kill the cpu, don't get him all worried for something that's not even his fault. the cpu voltages options he applied *136% weren't even applied to the cpu yet if he didn't post. sounds like a different problem...

some psu's are incompatible with the 4vdimm setting on the dfi motherboard. my zippy 6701 is incompatible. atm, whether it is the motherboard or the psu's fault is unknown. zippy is an manufacturer with an excellent reputation for server psu's where quality and reliability is paramount. i wouldn't be surprised if it's a fault with the dfi. oskar wu has passed on word through opb that there is a design flaw in the zippy. atm, i'm trying to get by with what 3.2v will get me on my ocz vx/twinmos utt.

vrtn
02-15-2005, 04:58 PM
Got the same problem here with a 3500+ Winchester, everything above 11x220 = no go
However 10x266 2-2-2-7-10-17 runs fine :)

On my old Neo2 11x250 wasn't a problem, so it's something in the mainboard. I am also using the 02/09 bios, however it was also with the stock bios (01/26 i believe).

I personally don't have a problem with it, cause this way my mem is maxed out :)

Tomorrow I will get my 3000+ from RMA and will let it know if it has the same problem. I hope that isn't the case, 8x multi sux ;)

Chr0n1c
02-15-2005, 07:04 PM
I cannot get my VX to OC above 220 When the Chip and MB has done way over that before.

:(

tictac
02-15-2005, 07:47 PM
Is it chronic or acute syndrome ? :hehe:

Chr0n1c
02-15-2005, 07:49 PM
Is it chronic or acute syndrome ?
:confused: uhm........


Anyways I have tried both sticks seperately and bios hangs @ 215 @ 3.4V for both sticks.

My crappy TCCD had no problems. :(

graham_h
02-15-2005, 10:56 PM
our board fixed itself.
solution to our no boot issue was to add another video card......!! :shrug: :grr:

And no it had nothing to do with the SLI connector

diamonddog
02-16-2005, 05:57 AM
Hi,

after few days and hard work the board became working.
First I can't install windows when USB Mouse in Bios --> enable and keyboard
After installing 5x200 ldt is very unstable. Data loss etc. So I decided to format my raid0 on my PCI Highpoint Raid after I backed up all data to my 160gb maxtor on IDE 0 master. After destroy stripe and rebuild I startet win2k from secondary master and all data were loss on my backup hd. The partition table was erased. *lol*

More then 3.6Vmem is not possible because @3,7 I get bluescreen on booting with my bh-5

The CPU temperature in mbm5 and smartguardian shows always about 70 degrees??? In bios it is about 20 degrees.

I have a crappy 3200 winnie 2750@1,75Vcore waterchilled

All this with the new beta bios

ViperJohn
02-16-2005, 12:03 PM
Hi,

The CPU temperature in mbm5 and smartguardian shows always about 70 degrees??? In bios it is about 20 degrees.

You are using the wrong sensor selection in MBM5.

Viper

diamonddog
02-16-2005, 12:39 PM
there are only 3 sensors. One is ambient one is chipset and one is cpu. When I start windows mbm shows the right temp for the cpu maybe for 5 sec and then it switches to 66 degrees

diamonddog
02-16-2005, 01:14 PM
ok I set it now to sensor1 diode and now it works *hm* I think after the last bios update it has been changed because before it was set to sensor 1 and it worked fine

graham_h
02-16-2005, 02:45 PM
anyone got a link for the 2.09 bios ?
Can't find it in tictacs link

vrtn
02-16-2005, 04:28 PM
anyone got a link for the 2.09 bios ?
Can't find it in tictacs link
http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/N24LD209.rar

Didnt get the cpu today btw, getting it tomorrow so i'll see if it has the same multiplier issue.

Xerxes
02-16-2005, 04:45 PM
i've got a bit of a weird issue i cant use even multipliers sometimes a bit more voltage to the vcore helps but it varies. ie i memtested stable at 255x9 and 255x7 but 255x8 and 255x10 when i try to boot just before where it verifies the back up bios it hangs and in a few seconds reboots. using the 2/09 bios 2/01 didnt work well for me at all.

Tripp17
02-16-2005, 05:50 PM
Man, ive been reading the posts and alot of stuff is really wrong...lol. Ive seen people say that if you have a revision1 Ultra d and 512 double sidded OCZ TCCD memory you cant overclock.......well, is 305 at 1T good enough to fix that? Ive had NO problems with my OCZ Platinum Rev2 on my Ultra-D at all, i keep it at ddr550 at 1T with 2.5-3-3-7 settings at 2.8 volts....

eva2000
02-16-2005, 05:53 PM
My DFI NF4 SLI-D arrived but no where in the manual does it even mention the 6 jumper blocks and which config is meant for SLI mode or Single video card mode ?

Which is which ?

thanks

Tripp17
02-16-2005, 05:54 PM
I know, would have been nice right?

Xerxes
02-16-2005, 06:00 PM
the side closest to the main pci-e 16 is for single mode and the other side is for sli. btw theres a better manual on the cd, its alot bigger. also silkscreened on the board is says which jumpers change it from a 16x2 to 8x8 it just doesnt say sli anywhere there

eva2000
02-16-2005, 06:11 PM
ah it ain't in the cd manual, so gotta download the web site one

Xerxes
02-16-2005, 06:39 PM
thats odd its in my manual on my cd, pages 65-68, you must have gotten an old one i guess :)

xgman
02-16-2005, 06:41 PM
anyone got a link for the 2.09 bios ?
Can't find it in tictacs link


Isn't there a central 3rd party DFI database of all the bioses including betas like 209 somewhere?

flexy
02-16-2005, 06:50 PM
You are using the wrong sensor selection in MBM5.

Viper

hi viper :) Do you know the right sensor config for mbm ? I have mbm, speedfan, sandra and a bunch more tools...and EACH of these tools shows different values... (for voltages and temps).

eva2000
02-16-2005, 06:55 PM
thats odd its in my manual on my cd, pages 65-68, you must have gotten an old one i guess :)
my manual only has 56 pages in total hehe

Snowman89
02-17-2005, 04:31 AM
my manual only has 56 pages in total hehe
mine also ust has 56

Dynasty
02-17-2005, 08:25 AM
Seems that on this board my Asus EN6800U's run 13C's hotter then they did
with my Ga-K8NXP board. I am using same drivers that i did in my Giga board.
Same ambient room temp area. Although this board is solid in VCore and Vdimm stablity, for sli i rather have lower gpu temps.
My gpu clocks are lower also at stock gpu core/mem.
Right now on the DFI i am at 425/1100.
My K8NXP was stock @ 434/1138.

:yawn:

Mrki
02-18-2005, 11:07 AM
Hi Guys, Hi OCZ,

Today my DFI SLI-D arrived. after I had connected all cables from my ocz 520watt i wanted start the PC and bang my ocz make a loud bang and lightning shot through.

My PSU is now damaged and im not the first with this problem :(

What to do? RMA?

gretz mrki

cryptz
02-18-2005, 11:44 AM
dynasty, is the NF4 chip running hotter on the DFI? only thing i can really htink of is that the vid cards are pulling in hotter air to begin with...

NiCKE^
02-18-2005, 11:48 AM
I don't know if this is where I should post it but I just found out that doing the ricky & pedro tweak will fu*k up the bw, it did for me, I didnt get more then 6151mb/s @ 2.6ghz 260FSB 2-2-2-5. I restored the old drivers and then I got 6729mb/s @ 2.4ghz 260FSB 2-2-2-5 :D

slayer899
02-18-2005, 12:05 PM
I don't know if this is where I should post it but I just found out that doing the ricky & pedro tweak will fu*k up the bw, it did for me, I didnt get more then 6151mb/s @ 2.6ghz 260FSB 2-2-2-5. I restored the old drivers and then I got 6729mb/s @ 2.4ghz 260FSB 2-2-2-5 :D

what is this tweak you are referring to?

cantankerous
02-18-2005, 01:46 PM
I know ricky multi acpi but what is pedro?

FallenAngel
02-18-2005, 01:55 PM
Pedro is the friend of Ricky, if I'm not wrong they were the first to break 40k in 3d1 with their tweak with a FX53, there's a thread about that

NiCKE^
02-18-2005, 02:09 PM
It's the Multi ACPI tweak I mean.

eva2000
02-18-2005, 06:08 PM
Seems that on this board my Asus EN6800U's run 13C's hotter then they did
with my Ga-K8NXP board. I am using same drivers that i did in my Giga board.
Same ambient room temp area. Although this board is solid in VCore and Vdimm stablity, for sli i rather have lower gpu temps.
My gpu clocks are lower also at stock gpu core/mem.
Right now on the DFI i am at 425/1100.
My K8NXP was stock @ 434/1138.

:yawn:
use zalman fan bracket and 120x38mm fan over cards, my DFI temps for my 2x eVGA 6800U PCI-E with fan over top, is only 2-4C higher than on my spacious Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe :)

manage the same 455/1215 clocks on my cards on DFI as with A8N-SLI

M.Beier
02-19-2005, 06:00 AM
I've heard that lots of DFI supporters should look around this forum :)

So here goes...

3,5x HTT would be LOVELY - Since lots of the boards max'es out around 340FSB... Giving you 1020 in 3x - and in 4x 1360, which many CPU's dislike.... 3,5x would be perfect for squasing the last out of the CPU... Im currently running mine at 318x8,5 - If I shall run 4x - I have to go to 305FSB or such... :(

Best regards
1 2 know

Sephir0th
02-19-2005, 06:28 AM
do you have ram capable of 340mhz? If so, you bastard. If not, then it doesnt matter, as the highest 1:1 you can get, the better. Unless you're on a 3000+ with the 9x multi then you shouldnt really need to go above 305htt or whatever.. and as it is whats wrong with 340x3=1020 ? thats roughly what the freq is meant to be..

M.Beier
02-19-2005, 07:23 AM
Well use 8,5 multiplier... My motherboard dislike 10x :(

Divider "166"

loc.o
02-19-2005, 08:02 AM
1st Hi to all, great forums, good to be here!

Today i installed me Ultra-D (rev 02). Im using the 24 pin connector and 4 pin from PSU. GFX card is on PCI-E connector, in slot 1, jumpers set to single mode. GFX fan is ok.

When i start system the 4th diagnostic led (VGA) stays on. Some beeps and system turns off. Unfortunately i dont have another PCI-E card/mainboard to check if card is death, but tried an old PCI card and still same problem, so dont think its me GFX card.

Already tried: CMOS clear, connecting all 4 power connectors to board, 1 RAM dimm in every slot, RAM jumper on default and on 2+3, PCI card instead of PCI-E, but still a no go. I hope someone has an idea what the prob might be....

ValkyrieLenneth
02-19-2005, 08:57 AM
I have same problem with my RAM, when i use only one Mushkin LV2 TCCD, it boot. When i plug one more adata DDR500 in for dual channel, i have same problem like u. Look like NF4 doesnt love various RAM so much :(

LowRun
02-19-2005, 09:05 AM
I have same problem with my RAM, when i use only one Mushkin LV2 TCCD, it boot. When i plug one more adata DDR500 in for dual channel, i have same problem like u. Look like NF4 doesnt love various RAM so much :(

Mixing different sticks is a pretty bad idea especially with a board known to be as picky as the DFI.

Dynasty
02-19-2005, 09:17 AM
use zalman fan bracket and 120x38mm fan over cards

Actually, what I did was have an metal rail bracket with 2 x 80mm tornados
blowing air over both 6800 ultras. Reduced temps by 11C's per card. :cool:

loc.o
02-19-2005, 09:19 AM
Im using 2 dimms VX that ran fine together on me old board.

zioxin
02-19-2005, 09:53 AM
Hi does anyone know of a cputest of some kind that can be put on a floppy?
I can't get into windows anymore after feeding the cpu with 1.7 for some minutes.

cantankerous
02-19-2005, 10:15 AM
there was suppose to be a cputest as well as memtest in the bios but it never surfaced.

andyOCZ
02-19-2005, 12:05 PM
Hi Guys, Hi OCZ,

Today my DFI SLI-D arrived. after I had connected all cables from my ocz 520watt i wanted start the PC and bang my ocz make a loud bang and lightning shot through.

My PSU is now damaged and im not the first with this problem :(

What to do? RMA?

gretz mrki

Hmmm, sounds like you connected the PSU the wrong way. Email me and I'll get you an RMA going. Please mention teh issue, XS and your forum name.

Thanks.

graham_h
02-19-2005, 12:54 PM
still no joy with 2 sticks of ram

zioxin
02-20-2005, 12:35 AM
Mrki, same thing happened to me yesterday when I was troubleshooting my system. Disconnected all powercables, took out one memory stick, resetted cmos, plugged power back in, waited 5 secs, pushed the on button. Thunder and lightning came out of my modstream 520w, and the mirrored surface it has got a bit darker with weird color on it o_O

Chris85
02-20-2005, 04:23 AM
I don't hope this is posted before, but I didn't want to read the entire thread again ;)

On my DFI I want to use a IDE HDD for benching, but I can't get it to work. After format and copying of the first files it reboots, which is normal, but after that I get the message: Error loading operating system. I thought it was the HDD so I tried another (80GB Maxtor) but I got the same message.

Hope someone can help me... :rolleyes:

eva2000
02-20-2005, 04:49 AM
still no joy with 2 sticks of ram
grab another pair of same ram and try maybe got a bad pair ?

jikdoc
02-20-2005, 06:23 AM
I don't hope this is posted before, but I didn't want to read the entire thread again ;)

On my DFI I want to use a IDE HDD for benching, but I can't get it to work. After format and copying of the first files it reboots, which is normal, but after that I get the message: Error loading operating system. I thought it was the HDD so I tried another (80GB Maxtor) but I got the same message.

Hope someone can help me... :rolleyes:

did you set the hard disk boot priority in the bios?

Mrki
02-20-2005, 08:13 AM
Hmmm, sounds like you connected the PSU the wrong way. Email me and I'll get you an RMA going. Please mention teh issue, XS and your forum name.

Thanks.


No, i have connected the right way.

Thanks to you for this nice support.

good work guys ...

Mrki
02-20-2005, 09:33 AM
my bequiet is not so good like my ocz ... :(

but the ram runs very good with my sli-d

http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/DFI%20SLI-D/9x300_OCZ_2.5_3_3_7_prime.jpg

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-20-2005, 01:53 PM
Hmmm, sounds like you connected the PSU the wrong way. Email me and I'll get you an RMA going. Please mention teh issue, XS and your forum name.

Thanks.

:D Hey Andy, my OCZ PWSTRM 520W is still alive, only board has been DOA.

But I wonder about a lot of exploded PSUs connected with the DFI NF4, so is there an issue I should know before my RMA'd board is back?

Don't get me wrong, I never had a problem with OCZ products but I still feel really pissed because of the DOA board so I want to avoid a damaged PSU on my second trial......... :toast:

Enz0
02-20-2005, 01:56 PM
If I change the memory timings(upper half of DRAM Configuration) when the memory is set to asynchronous, some errors occur in Memtest.
If I set the memory to synchronous once, change the timings, and set it back to asynchronous, the errors don't occur.
So I have to change the timings when the memory is set to synchronous, reboot, and set it to asynchronous.
I'm sorry for my bad English.

[G.N.U.]Fragman
02-20-2005, 04:08 PM
there has been a lot of things in this thread...cant anyone just make a resume for the most common errors and solutions...and important tricks and bios settings and versions

andyOCZ
02-20-2005, 05:11 PM
:D Hey Andy, my OCZ PWSTRM 520W is still alive, only board has been DOA.

But I wonder about a lot of exploded PSUs connected with the DFI NF4, so is there an issue I should know before my RMA'd board is back?

Don't get me wrong, I never had a problem with OCZ products but I still feel really pissed because of the DOA board so I want to avoid a damaged PSU on my second trial......... :toast:

The best I can say is that I have an off the shelf board that I purchased at Fry's and a 600w Powerstream PSU that came off the shelf at OCZ. I'm running SLI and have no no issues at all. I have 2 x BFG 6600GT OC and got 7385 in 3dm05.

Orker
02-21-2005, 02:06 AM
why doesnt the stupid ntune show cpu temp... its done this before and i forget what i did to fix it.. i think i reinstalled but that hasnt done it this time.. its only showing gpu temp at the mo.. any ideas>

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-21-2005, 02:17 AM
The best I can say is that I have an off the shelf board that I purchased at Fry's and a 600w Powerstream PSU that came off the shelf at OCZ. I'm running SLI and have no no issues at all. I have 2 x BFG 6600GT OC and got 7385 in 3dm05.

:D THX Andy, so I'm looking forward to get a running system.... :toast:

steve-0
02-21-2005, 07:26 AM
hello,

I'm having a lot of problems with this mobo :( and maybe you can help me :)

well, i'm with the bios 218. (Bank interleve is dissabled)
winchester 3000+
2x512MB XMS 3200 C2 rev4.1 (They're supoused* to be TCCD)

1) i can't boot with a different multiplier than 9x or 5x :eek:
2) My i can run for 350 passes the test5 of memtest at 285Mhz 2.5-4-3-10-1T and then i can't even run spi 8M :( . Can i trust memtest?
3) i can't bott with HTT higer than 265 :s , what i have to do is to boot with 5x multiplier and then in windows set 9x with clockgen

I Dont know guys, DFI it's said to be the best mobo, but I've never had this kind of problems with my Neo2. So it would be very great if you gould help me

i don't know maybe there is a jumper i've in wrong position (I havent switch any) as it happened my with a soltek i had


*) I'm sorry, my english is very bad

Dynasty
02-21-2005, 08:34 AM
Could be your ram to board compatible issue.
The dfi Ultra is 5x better then the Neo2, in my case it is. My Neo2 hated my BH-5/6 rams no matter which bios I tried, the dfi is loving them.
Also I am using the 520w OCZ and have reported no issues with this psu. :cool:

steve-0
02-21-2005, 09:53 AM
maybe, anyway i'm waiting for 1GB of twinmos sp. i hope not to have all this problems

Xcalibur
02-21-2005, 04:29 PM
1) i can't boot with a different multiplier than 9x or 5x :eek:
2) My i can run for 350 passes the test5 of memtest at 285Mhz

Don't worry.. I can't boot with 7x multiplier... I reckon it's the Winni's memory controller...

Stability in MemTest does not guarantee stability in Windows.. it gives you a rough indication of what's probably stable... SuperPi 32M is a good indicator :)

steve-0
02-21-2005, 04:58 PM
Don't worry.. I can't boot with 7x multiplier... I reckon it's the Winni's memory controller...

Stability in MemTest does not guarantee stability in Windows.. it gives you a rough indication of what's probably stable... SuperPi 32M is a good indicator :)


ok thank's :) . well, some improoves here. with OPB's timming settings i can run spi 8M at 272HTT (2.5-3-3-6) but i can't even boot at 275HTT :D

do you think that maybe is because i have a 20 pines PSU? would it be a difference with the 24 pines adapter?

Cheers :toast:

ValkyrieLenneth
02-21-2005, 11:25 PM
No i think PSU is not the problem. I'm currently using Antec True Control 550 which is a 20 pins PSU and it works fine. All voltage rail are over the requirement. And i can run @ 300HTT without problems.
PS: Plug all power connector to MB and lower HTT Ratio, with over 250, set it to 3x :) . If u want over 1000Mhz HTT bus, try to increase LDT/HTT Voltage tto 1.3 or higher ;)

TEDY
02-22-2005, 01:03 PM
i'm going to buy DFI NF4 ULTRA-D soon

does my TAGAN 480W PSU suits enough ? in terms of 20/24 pin connector ?

ominae
02-22-2005, 02:41 PM
Yesterday I got my DFI Ultra-D and installed everything. It all went fine and I left the computer on overnight to transfer some files to it, and this morning everything was still working fine. I started installing important programs such as Norton Antivirus 2005 and ISS Blackice. Once I was done installing blackice I was surfing around on the internet and suddenly the BSOD appears and the computer reboots. I heard a short signal from the motherboard while this happens, and another one when the computer boots up again. I got into windows again and I sit there looking at the desktop for a while. After a while the bluescreen reappears and the computer reboots again. I decided to raise VDimm to 3.2 for my VX and boot the computer again. Now the BSOD randomly appears after logging into Windows, but sometimes it does not. Please help

All settings in bios are at standard except for the vdimm voltage. I'm using bios 1/25. I am using the chipset drivers included on the cd that came with the motherboard. It appears the BSOD always appears again after a while, not always after the log in.

Hey, I've started getting the same thing!! Initially I had the 4-pin molex power connector plugged in, and everything was fine - i took it out, and then this started happening *I think*, so I've plugged it back in, and am still testing to see if it will crash.... Give it a try :)

VoRtAn_MaDgE
02-22-2005, 03:00 PM
Anyone tried going up more then 3,8v?

At 3,9 windows won't boot...if i change to 3,8v everything works like a charm!

Tried boot at default, boot with oc, boot with default settings then change with a64tweaker, boot with different timmings, try raising the 12/5/3,3v rails of my 465 enermax the same, LDT and Chipste voltage max, pci-ex at 105 (ati card) none of this works...

Any idea?

btw does it worth buying a 20 to 24 atx pin adapter to use? I know this is not the reason why 3,9v aren't working cuzz i have a friend with the same problem with a 520w ocz psu...

Got to try 3,9 and 4v to see if my bh-5 scale a little more ;)

http://img30.exs.cx/img30/5704/bh5power0zp.jpg

snowice
02-22-2005, 04:16 PM
got a question. does anyone know what the pci express frequency is for in the bios? it's default setting is 100mhz, and you can up it to 400 somthing. has anyone messed with it? i've seen someone set it to 103. dont know why tho.

esdee
02-22-2005, 05:16 PM
i'm going to buy DFI NF4 ULTRA-D soon

does my TAGAN 480W PSU suits enough ? in terms of 20/24 pin connector ?

TG480 U01 here works like a charm ! ;)

sauria
02-22-2005, 06:34 PM
No i think PSU is not the problem. I'm currently using Antec True Control 550 which is a 20 pins PSU and it works fine. All voltage rail are over the requirement. And i can run @ 300HTT without problems.
PS: Plug all power connector to MB and lower HTT Ratio, with over 250, set it to 3x :) . If u want over 1000Mhz HTT bus, try to increase LDT/HTT Voltage tto 1.3 or higher ;)

That's only got 24A on the 12V rail -- right?

M.Beier
02-22-2005, 07:00 PM
Snowice - Im wondering the exact same thing, gfx's supose to run 100mhz I've heard... But I read the other day on a site, dont remember which... - That 105 for x850XT should be good, havnt tested it though ;)

As well I wonder.... In the menu where you set first priority device etc... - Theres something about a size - Some ppl say It's supose to be set to 256 - the memory amount on gfx... But standart is 4096...

Im a bit confused.....
As well there's other things that gets on my nervs... - The board requeres more vdimm for my ram than A8N-SLI... And they "max" out 20 mhz lower :(
Another thing that I sadly dont remember with my A8N-SLI... - Was the max Async time... - Which according to Tom H's SuperPI guide should be quite important - On the DFI card, I cant get it to boot at 7 - 8 is minimum - at lower than std. speed (for mem)

[G.N.U.]Fragman
02-22-2005, 07:05 PM
"Added stability when using SLI" or something like that DFI says.
I'm having some problems with my USB mouse, I've enabled both the keyboard and the mouse in the bios, but when booting into windows only my keyboard responds. If i pull out the mouse cable and put it in again it works, anyone know why this happens?
this problem could be solved by moving usb jumpers to 5vSB instead of 5v...look in the manual for those jumpers.....it seems to solve the problem for most ppl.

how about the internet problem??? which rev boards has it, what bios are you using, and what have you tried?.........i know someone descirbed something about putting the MAC adress into bios manuelly.......just cant find it in this big forum.

another problem with a solution was something about settings in bios, and somethings you would have to change 1 setting and save in a special way.....

any of these problems that has been solved with newest bios (218 AFAIK) ???
Come on, lets get a resume of this thread about most common problems and their solutions!!!

secretz
02-22-2005, 10:35 PM
I have some trouble with overclocking the DFI nf4 sli-d. This is probably noobish and the problem is me not setting some bios settings correctly, but I will give it a shot anyways.

Using the 209 bios, winchester 3500+, 2x512 TwinMos Winbond UTT and bequiet 470W.
My temps should be fine with XP-120, but when I put the multiplier to 11x and start raising the HTT with clockgen 5Mhz a time with 5-15 minutes of superpi in between (Prime95 crashed much sooner) Windows crashes before I reach 220. Now, I'd imagine it'd go higher. What am I doing wrong here?

M.Beier
02-22-2005, 11:03 PM
My PSU is a 400W northQ, only think it got 15a on 12+

Can that be an issue?

fagin
02-23-2005, 02:00 AM
OK, when I first got my board, before I got my BH6, I was running some OCZ 3700 Gold rev 3, with hynix chips, at 250htt. Its been out for a while, but I put it back in for some testing. Switched back to 3.3v for vdimm, cleared cmos in the normal way, loaded default settings, and couldn't get above 210htt! WTF! Tried rolling back to older bios version, no go. Started up A64tweaker, and noticed Max Async Lat was set to 5ns (auto in bios). Set it to 7ns and I'm able to get to 260htt 1T! :toast:

This brings me on to a problem I have... What is limiting my RAM O/C? Both sets of ram (BH6 and hynix) reach 260 1:1. Neither will do 262. I had the hynix at 270 2T on an Asus SLI board, so would expect the same on this board, but nope, makes no difference set to 262, and reboot.

Memory controller?

eva2000
02-23-2005, 08:45 AM
Anyone experience weird temps between different cpus ? I tried several remounts and this is what i get


now i swapped to 3500+ 0441 TPAW and cpu temps are high again even after 6 remounts!

3200+ CBBHD 0450 UPJW
@2700mhz at ~1.6v
CPU idle = 41-43C
CPU load = 51-56C

3200+ CBBHD 0445 VPMW
@2700mhz at ~1.6v
CPU idle = 31-33C
CPU load = 41-46C

3500+ CBBFD 0441 TPAW
@2700mhz at ~1.6v
CPU idle = 38-43C
CPU load = 51-57C

cooled by MCW6002 + MCP650 + MCP600 in series with Thermochill 120.3 with 3x 120x38mm Panaflo 103cfm fans

room temp 29-33C

TEDY
02-23-2005, 09:42 AM
geeze what are you doing with them...

i want this one

3200+ CBBHD 0445 VPMW
@2700mhz at ~1.6v
CPU idle = 31-33C
CPU load = 41-46C

Zac89
02-23-2005, 10:21 AM
Hi...

Some pages ago, some people had problem with voltage over 3.5
I read it but I don't care, 'cos my mobo semms to go perfectly.

Now i've done some more test and i've seen i have that problem.
At 3.5 i have some error in memtest (about 2 per loop) from 250 to 268, so i think it's a mobo issue.

Does anyone fix this issue???

Is there a modded bios which allows 3.3+ vdimm using 3.3 rail (i've a ocz powerstream and I can set 3.3 rail as I want)

Thx

cantankerous
02-23-2005, 01:52 PM
This upsets me. I KNOW Bigtoe showed us a bios for this board where the 3.3v rail could be used to power the ram. He had his at 3.5 and fed 3.4v to the ram to get 260 if I remember correctly. I bought a powerstream just for this however now it seems you can only power the ram from the 5v rail which shows to be not the most stable and also generates tremendous heat. The UT 250 did so good powering from the 3.3v rail why can't this be done now?

Zac89
02-24-2005, 04:10 AM
This upsets me. I KNOW Bigtoe showed us a bios for this board where the 3.3v rail could be used to power the ram. He had his at 3.5 and fed 3.4v to the ram to get 260 if I remember correctly. I bought a powerstream just for this however now it seems you can only power the ram from the 5v rail which shows to be not the most stable and also generates tremendous heat. The UT 250 did so good powering from the 3.3v rail why can't this be done now?
I hope a new bios come soon...

My vx need VOLTAGE!!! :D

brassen
02-24-2005, 01:22 PM
Ok, I tried memtest at timings 2-2-2-8 @220mhz, first at 3,4V and got massive amounts of errors immidiatly, tried lowering the voltage to 3,2V and the HTT to 200mhz, and this time the errors didn't appear as fast before but still they were there. What do you guys recommend I do?
Flash to the latest bios, loosen my timings a little bit or what?
What settings do you guys have exactly for your VXses?

infinitevalence
02-24-2005, 07:56 PM
Ok i hate to do this but i need help, i have looked at every post, tried evey method i could find, updated the bios to 2/1/05, put only one stick in bank 2.... and i cannot get my DFI Ultra-D to boot.

DFI Lanparty UT Ultra-D
AMD Athlon64 3000+
512mb of Kingmax Hardcore PC4000 (or 512 of Geil Golden Dragon PC3700)
ATI Radon X800XL 256mb PCI-Express
2x Maxtor DiamondMax10 SATA 250gb 16mb
MSI 48x CDRW
Skyhawk 570w PSU

Any suggestions are welcom

//update the only time it will post is right after i clear the cmos, as soon as i load the defaults it hangs, if i reboot it hangs...

//update now using 2/17/05 bios and same thing happnes after loading optimized defaults system hangs on reboot.

//update its not hanging i can reboot, but when i go to install or load any os, linux or windows from the cdrom it hangs and i have to use the power/reset

//update got it working it did not like my MSI cdrom which i verified is good on another computer.

andyOCZ
02-24-2005, 11:47 PM
This upsets me. I KNOW Bigtoe showed us a bios for this board where the 3.3v rail could be used to power the ram. He had his at 3.5 and fed 3.4v to the ram to get 260 if I remember correctly. I bought a powerstream just for this however now it seems you can only power the ram from the 5v rail which shows to be not the most stable and also generates tremendous heat. The UT 250 did so good powering from the 3.3v rail why can't this be done now?

That was not a BIOS, it was a mod he did. I am with Bigtoe right now at the TGF in Dallas for some wild and crazy overclocking action ;). I will ask him anout it when he's awake. He's sleeping like a baby.

I have had no issues using the 5v jumper setting. Just have a fan blowing on the MOSFET with the big heatsink that's by the jumper. My VX happens to work best with 3.4v anyway no matter what board I use.

charlie
02-25-2005, 01:10 AM
It seems that a LOT of frustration over this board is due to the complexity of the BIOS... last night I was hitting 300+ HTT and today with a new o/s and SLI setup, apparently I'm missing something in the settings.... maxing at 255 today :(
I know it's USER ERROR, lol but am trying to find some clear guidelines to optimal settings.

C

eva2000
02-25-2005, 04:19 AM
It seems that a LOT of frustration over this board is due to the complexity of the BIOS... last night I was hitting 300+ HTT and today with a new o/s and SLI setup, apparently I'm missing something in the settings.... maxing at 255 today :(
I know it's USER ERROR, lol but am trying to find some clear guidelines to optimal settings.

C
i know what you mean on A8N-SLI Deluxe i had my 2x 3200+ and 3500 winnie are 3dmark/benchable @ 2700mhz 1.6v (1.55v in bios), on DFI NF4 SLI-D with same cooling only one cpu did 2745mhz at 1.632v 3dmark benchable other cpus 2600-2680mhz at 1.632v and 10C hotter than other cpu

brassen
02-25-2005, 06:12 AM
Could someone give me a link to the latest bios, can't find the old thread.

cantankerous
02-25-2005, 06:26 AM
thanks for the clarification Andy. I look forward to hearing back from you or Tony on the mod. Have fun out there! Must be a blast!

xgman
02-25-2005, 07:23 AM
Could someone give me a link to the latest bios, can't find the old thread.

http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/nf4ld209.rar

http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/nf4ld217.rar

http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/nf4ld218.rar

http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/bios_download_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=3469&STATUS_FLAG=B&SITE=US


Is there anyone close to DFI that can host a public directory for all these beta bioses that Oscar puts out so people can easily check for the latest updates and test bioses?

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-25-2005, 07:25 AM
http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/nf4ld209.rar

http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/nf4ld217.rar

http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/betabios/nf4ld218.rar

http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/bios_download_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=3469&STATUS_FLAG=B&SITE=US

:D Good work xgman, what about 2/19 - any news ??? :toast:

xgman
02-25-2005, 07:26 AM
:D Good work xgman, what about 2/19 - any news ??? :toast:


No seems like 218 was the latest as of yesterday according to "Kent" at DFI Taiwan anyway.

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-25-2005, 07:41 AM
No seems like 218 was the latest as of yesterday according to "Kent" at DFI Taiwan anyway.

:D O.K. - THX mate, I'm sure I read it here somewhere but maybe was a typo... :toast:

brassen
02-25-2005, 07:58 AM
Ok, I've flashed to 2/18 now. Going to get this party started.

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-25-2005, 09:02 AM
Ok, I've flashed to 2/18 now. Going to get this party started.

:D Fine, please report Your settings and some benchies here when it runs......... :toast:

charlie
02-25-2005, 09:18 AM
How does 2/18 help compared to 1/25??
Using TCCD.

C

perry_78
02-25-2005, 10:00 AM
I had no change.

Perhaps this has been mentioned before, but the NF4 does not like *anything* in the USB port below the firewire.

I set the machine up again, after re-mounting my water cooling after a minor circuit modification, and I could OC by about 3 mhz :rolleys: I though I had screwed something up with the GFX, as the last led (the one about VGA detect) was always on untill I reached the IRQ screen. Then everything froze. After some initial stress I figured that I should plug the USB connector to the one under the LAN connector, and thus my issues went away.

Trans Am, you don't feel like making a summary of the problems and summary in the first post do you?

Dave

ValkyrieLenneth
02-25-2005, 10:21 AM
That's only got 24A on the 12V rail -- right?
Sure, but you can see all my rails are very good even in fullload (Folding + SuperPI) :) Sorry for Dual Monitors Pic :)

Zac89
02-25-2005, 10:44 AM
Sure, but you can see all my rails are very good even in fullload (Folding + SuperPI) :) Sorry for Dual Monitors Pic :)
OT

Don't care about the mobo sensors...
My dfi read 11.8, by tester is 12.2 ;)

OT2

An HD@56 °C??? :eek: :eek: :eek:

sauria
02-25-2005, 11:40 AM
Sure, but you can see all my rails are very good even in fullload (Folding + SuperPI) :) Sorry for Dual Monitors Pic :)

True, have you measured with a Volt Meter?

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=137886

I'm trying to figure out how best to do this myself on an installed 550W true control -- perhaps just measure on an empty molex connector?

These used to be "premium" supplies. I have two of them but I fear that they are only marginal for my nforce 3 250 systems.

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-25-2005, 12:01 PM
Sure, but you can see all my rails are very good even in fullload (Folding + SuperPI) :) Sorry for Dual Monitors Pic :)

:confused: What's up to Your -12 rail, at only -8,91 ??? :toast:

perry_78
02-25-2005, 01:07 PM
The readings are screwed. Mobo shows 12,16, multi reads 12,38, had to adjust THAT.

I have to find which USB port to use, they're SCREWY. This board need love and attention, which is basically a fancy term for trial-and-error.

Weird board...

xgman
02-25-2005, 01:55 PM
How does 2/18 help compared to 1/25??
Using TCCD.

C


oh my god yes!

TEDY
02-25-2005, 01:55 PM
damn i got A.00 :(

xgman
02-25-2005, 01:56 PM
I had no change.

Perhaps this has been mentioned before, but the NF4 does not like *anything* in the USB port below the firewire.

I set the machine up again, after re-mounting my water cooling after a minor circuit modification, and I could OC by about 3 mhz :rolleys: I though I had screwed something up with the GFX, as the last led (the one about VGA detect) was always on untill I reached the IRQ screen. Then everything froze. After some initial stress I figured that I should plug the USB connector to the one under the LAN connector, and thus my issues went away.

Trans Am, you don't feel like making a summary of the problems and summary in the first post do you?

Dave


Try moving the usb and ps2 power jumpers to the non default positions on the MB. See the manual for this. It should help.

TEDY
02-25-2005, 02:11 PM
dump question

single pcie gfx card...which pcie on ultra ?? lol

esdee
02-25-2005, 03:49 PM
dump question

single pcie gfx card...which pcie on ultra ?? lol

6600GT PCIe is a real value for money!

steve-0
02-25-2005, 03:57 PM
Try moving the usb and ps2 power jumpers to the non default positions on the MB. See the manual for this. It should help.

is there any danger in trying it? i also have a lof of problems...

sauria
02-25-2005, 04:22 PM
damn i got A.00 :(
from where?

aver
02-25-2005, 04:29 PM
Anyone have in their setup both an IDE and SATA drive?

My setup includes one SATA drive and one IDE drive.. Today I was playing around with the comp trying to get it stable, but it was very unstable.. So i started to run it at stock speeds, and the system was still crashing..
The SATA is my primary drive

I was running 200HTT 9X multiplier, 5XLDT, 2.0-2-2-5 ram, on Vcore 1.45 Vdimm 2.8 (nothing lower seems to work) and the comp was still crashing..
So I flashed my bios to 2/17, disconnected the IDE hard drive, and as well the Front USB and Firewire ports from my case.. Cleared the CMOS and rebooted..

Now this is the second time I have gone to bios 2/17 (went from 209-217-218-209-217) and I have been priming for about 2 hours now and the system is rock stable..

Before when I had the IDE plugged in I could not even disable or enable my nvida network connection without the computer crashing..
Now I can enable and disable the network connection no problem and have been running prime for about 2 hours at
HTT 250
4X LDT
CPU MULTI 9X
RAM 2.5-4-3-7
Vcore 1.475
Vdimm 2.9
Ldt 1.5
Chipset 1.7

Seems like the IDE was causing some instability issues.. anyone else have an IDE and SATA ??? Also I do not have the raid drivers installed, but I am not trying to run raid..

ValkyrieLenneth
02-25-2005, 08:04 PM
I'm currently running both SATA and PATA devices with my Ultra-D, and no errors happened. May be you should try the newest BIOS. 218 or newer :toast:

aver
02-25-2005, 08:13 PM
I'm currently running both SATA and PATA devices with my Ultra-D, and no errors happened. May be you should try the newest BIOS. 218 or newer :toast:

I have tried all three (209,217,218) and all three experienced the same problems.. my prime is still running fine approaching 6 hours.. looking like it might be stable.. hmm .. have to investigate the IDE some more

tictac
02-25-2005, 08:19 PM
dump question

single pcie gfx card...which pcie on ultra ?? lol

the slot nearest to CPU socket ;)

soundx98
02-25-2005, 08:39 PM
I am running an 80G WD like yours (OS) and dual Raid 0 arrays without any issues. Make sure any jumper pins on the rear are pulled. DO NO set as Master if a single drive. I can guarantee you will have those issues if you do.

aver
02-25-2005, 08:44 PM
So setting hte HDD to slave on IDE may work?

TEDY
02-25-2005, 10:55 PM
from where?

here in slovenija....

Zac89
02-26-2005, 12:37 AM
Are there any news about the mod for high vdimm from 3.3 rail?

soundx98
02-26-2005, 02:36 AM
@aver - No, not what I was trying to say.
DO Not set to Master, slave, or cable select if using a single WD drive.

Pull the lil jumper out (and save of course) from WD's site

http://premium1.uploadit.org/soundx98//jumpers.gif

eva2000
02-26-2005, 04:41 AM
OT

Don't care about the mobo sensors...
My dfi read 11.8, by tester is 12.2 ;)

OT2

An HD@56 °C??? :eek: :eek: :eek:

yeah smartguardian always under reports voltages

DFI SG vs Multimeter
12V = 11.96v vs 12.28v
12V = 12.09v vs 12.35v
12V = 12.13v vs 12.43v

Sephir0th
02-26-2005, 05:31 AM
snip

hmm interesting, im pretty sure when i was initially testing the hardware and i only had 1 sata hdd plugged in, my overclocks were better and more stable than now... now i have 3 sata hdds and 1 pata hdd. I might try disconnecting the pata hdd, see how that goes.

gundamit
02-26-2005, 05:35 AM
so noone has hynix D43 mem and DFI nf4 to tell us if he has met any problems? Sorry if someone had already given you a definitive answer to the Hynix question, but I think I have tested some.
Check out this thread ... its a little convoluted but I think it might be worth a read. (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52904) The review that is linked in that thread is for Geil Ultra Plat PC4000 which has the same memory I picked up from Fry's. I think the non Plat version of the Geil Ultra PC4000 have the same D43 but might be the ones that weren't as good as the Plats. Still, If Punisher is right about his ID of IC on the Geil PC4000 Ultras in his New RAM List!!! (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50010&page=1) thread, then I have been testing D43 with no compatibility problems.

BTW - I'm using the 2/09 bios.

fagin
02-26-2005, 05:41 AM
Sorry if someone had already given you a definitive answer to the Hynix question, but I think I have tested some.
Check out this thread ... its a little convoluted but I think it might be worth a read. (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52904) The review that is linked in that thread is for Geil Ultra Plat PC4000 which has the same memory I picked up from Fry's. I think the non Plat version of the Geil Ultra PC4000 have the same D43 but might be the ones that weren't as good as the Plats. Still, If Punisher is right about his ID of IC on the Geil PC4000 Ultras in his New RAM List!!! (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50010&page=1) thread, then I have been testing D43 with no compatibility problems.

BTW - I'm using the 2/09 bios.

Gave an answer here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=726124&postcount=373) . Bios set max Async Lat too tight for me.

doom_st
02-26-2005, 06:17 AM
hi i have a serious problem with my dfi sli-d .Every time i copy data from one disk to another one(raid & IDE) i get machine_check_exception BSOD ... is where any solution???

Mastakilla
02-26-2005, 07:04 AM
aaarch

i think i got :banana::banana::banana::banana:in blind...

i finally got my dfi nf4u after browsing this forum for weeks now

been reading alot about probs and how to solve em and how to start when u get ur mobo...

BUT now that i have it, i :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing cant find those threads anymore :( :(

where are they??

i mean those threads telling which slots to use for dual channel ram etc... startersguide u can call em...

ow yeah, for those intrested:
some pics of my new combo --> http://users.pandora.be/Mastakilla/pc

Mastakilla
02-26-2005, 08:19 AM
allrighty

after lookin a lil further ive put the memory in the orange ones and just tried it :D

and it works!!

no DOA for me :D

installed xp, and didnt get any bluescreens or whatever

just tried first bit of overclocking too...
just augmented the fsb a lil...
but even from 200 to 210, it wouldnt boot in winxp anymore.... :(

hope my cpu doesnt suck azz... :/

sauria
02-26-2005, 08:20 AM
@aver - No, not what I was trying to say.
DO Not set to Master, slave, or cable select if using a single WD drive.

Pull the lil jumper out (and save of course) from WD's site

http://premium1.uploadit.org/soundx98//jumpers.gif

I've heard that too -- does WD actually recommend this?

Slimmie
02-26-2005, 10:13 AM
@ Anyone with TCCD ram that don't work very good.

Use these settings in the bios.

Skew Value: 255
Drive strength: 2

I can now run 289mhz 2.5-4-3-7 1T @ 3v

Zedex
02-26-2005, 11:17 AM
@ Anyone with TCCD ram that don't work very good.

Use these settings in the bios.

Skew Value: 255
Drive strength: 2

I can now run 289mhz 2.5-4-3-7 1T @ 3v

Did you leave DQS Skew Control on Auto?

Slimmie
02-26-2005, 11:19 AM
Did you leave DQS Skew Control on Auto?

Yes.

justwOo
02-26-2005, 06:55 PM
I've been getting random reboots at even stock volts/timings
Its really starting to suck as its my only computer :\

CHEMICAL
02-26-2005, 07:54 PM
heres the DFI NF4 Verified Memory Support List from dfi-street

Dear All

I have just update LP NF4 series boards’ memory support list, please refer to modules in red.

PC3200 (DDR400) Corsair /Corsair /256MB *(CMX256A-3200LL)

PC3200 (DDR400) Corsair /Corsair /256MB *(CMX256A-3200)

PC3200 (DDR400) Corsair /Corsair /512MB *(CMX512-3200)

PC3200 (DDR400) Crucial/ Samsung/ 512MB *(CT6464ZC03)

PC3200 (DDR400) DDAN***OCZ 512MB PC400

PC3200 (DDR400) DDAQ***FOR LEMEL OCZ 256MB PC400

PC3200 (DDR400) DDAX-1***FOR LEMEL Veritech VM 512MB (TYPE 13)

PC3200 (DDR400) DDAX-2***FOR LEMEL Veritech VM 512MB (TYPE 14)

PC3200 (DDR400) DDAW-1***FOR LEMEL Veritech VM 256MB (TYPE 16)

PC3200 (DDR400) DDAW-2***FOR LEMEL Veritech VM 256MB (TYPE 17)

PC3200 (DDR400) DDAR1-4 Apacer /Infineon /512MB *(HYB25D256800BT-5)

PC3200 (DDR400) DDB4***SAMSUNG/K4H5108388 1G PC400

PC3200 (DDR400) DD90-MemorySolutioN /Infineon /512MB *(HYB25D256800BT-5) S/D/F

PC3200 (DDR400) DD92-A-Data /Hynix /512MB *(HY5DU56822BT-D43) S/D/F

PC3200 (DDR400) DDAD-Geil /Geil /256MB *(VDD8608A8A-5B)S/D/F

PC3200 (DDR400) Geil/ 512MB CL:3-8-4-4*(GE2GB3200BDC)

PC3200 (DDR400) Geil/ 512MB CL:2.5-8-4-4*(GE1GB3200BDC)

PC3200 (DDR400) Geil /Geil /256MB *(VDD8608A8A-5B)

PC3200 (DDR400) Geil /Geil /512MB *(VDD8608A8A-5B)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingmax /Kingmax /256MB *(KDL684T4AA-50)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingmax /Kingmax /512MB *(KDL388P4KA-50)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingston/512MB *(KHX4000K2)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingston/512MB *(KVR400X64C3A/512)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingston/256MB *(KVR400X64C3A/256)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingston/512MB *(KVR400X64C25/512)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingston/256MB *(KVR400X64C25/256)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingston /Winbond /512MB *(W942508BH-5)

PC3200 (DDR400) OCZ PC3200 256MB EL DDR

PC3200 (DDR400) OCZ PC3200 512MB EL DDR

PC3200 (DDR400) Samsung/ Samsung/512MB *(PC3200-30441-132)

PC3200 (DDR400) TwinMOS /Winbond /512MB (W942508BH-5)

PC3200 (DDR400) TWINX /Corsair /256MB *(CMX256A-3200LL)

PC3200 (DDR400) Nanya/1G *(NT5DS64M4BT-5T)

PC2700 (DDR333) Buffalo/1G * (46V64M8)

PC3500 (DDR433) Corsair/XMS3500/512MB

PC3700 (DDR466) Corsair/XMS3700/256MB

PC4000 (DDR500) Corsair/XMS4000/512MB

PC4400 (DDR550) Corsair/XMS4400/512MB

PC3200/PC4400 (DDR400/550) G.SKILL/Samsung/512MB *(K4H560838F-TCCD)

PC3200/PC4800 (DDR400/600) G.SKILL/Samsung/512MB *(K4H560838F-TCCD)

PC3700 (DDR466) OCZ/Platinum Edition/512MB/512MB

Bests,

Samuel

Mrki
02-27-2005, 07:29 AM
ddr640 2.5-3-3-7 ;)

dfi rulez

http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/DFI%20SLI-D/9x320_OCZ_2.5_3_3_7_sisoftmem.jpg

TEDY
02-27-2005, 01:48 PM
any good advises for BH-5 and NF4 ?

BaNaNaS
02-27-2005, 07:22 PM
I think i'm going to be picking this motherboard up next week along with a winnie 3200+... after reading this sticky i'm having some mixed feelings. First I was wondering if anyone has first hands exp with a Zalman 7000B ALCU and can put the ram in dual channel fine with plenty of clearance, the zalman sites says compatible but im skeptical. Second I was planning on getting (2x512) dual channel kit of Patriot 3200 XBLK will this work fine if not could you suggest something better around 230 USD. Thank you for your time.

justwOo
02-27-2005, 07:32 PM
I dont have this heatsink hooked up, but Ive got one lying around, and I eyed it up and you should definetly be ok

You might be better to look at another board honestly.. I've had nothing but problems with mine, and they wont let me RMA it... When I boot into windows at optimized defaults with a powerstream 520w it sometimes randomly restarts, and trying to OC is like BSOD christmas

ominae
02-27-2005, 08:04 PM
I dont have this heatsink hooked up, but Ive got one lying around, and I eyed it up and you should definetly be ok

You might be better to look at another board honestly.. I've had nothing but problems with mine, and they wont let me RMA it... When I boot into windows at optimized defaults with a powerstream 520w it sometimes randomly restarts, and trying to OC is like BSOD christmas

does it reboot while you're using NVLAN? I had the same problem - would randomly reboot when I used bittorrent, switched over to Marvell, and installed a windows patch which fixed BSOD's with windows firewall working with other firewall apps (such as nvidia's?), and it works fine now

sauria
02-27-2005, 08:04 PM
I dont have this heatsink hooked up, but Ive got one lying around, and I eyed it up and you should definetly be ok

You might be better to look at another board honestly.. I've had nothing but problems with mine, and they wont let me RMA it... When I boot into windows at optimized defaults with a powerstream 520w it sometimes randomly restarts, and trying to OC is like BSOD christmas
Where did you buy it?

justwOo
02-28-2005, 12:04 AM
NCIX.com is where I purchased it, still working with them on it, due to the fact that it works, but seems to be an error with soemthing

I'll try switching over to the marvell lan, thanks for the tip!

cantankerous
02-28-2005, 03:34 AM
I just ordered my board from ncix. It should be coming this week. I sure hope I have no issues with mine.

BTW did you get A02 revision?

Zac89
02-28-2005, 04:26 AM
Yesterday i did some tests and I think that a modded bios can "unlock" high vdimm with 3.3v rail.

I set my ram to 3.6v using +5v rail, than i turned off my PSU, i move the jumper 17 and I restart the system.

From bios my vdimm was 3.65v using 3.3v rail (@3.75/3.8v)

So just a modded bios can fix this little problem.

I'm wrong???

sauria
02-28-2005, 05:16 AM
NCIX.com is where I purchased it, still working with them on it, due to the fact that it works, but seems to be an error with soemthing

I'll try switching over to the marvell lan, thanks for the tip!
Thanks -- latsest Rev ?

TEDY
02-28-2005, 06:06 AM
lol

i set FSB to 210

vdimm to 2.8v

and doesnt boot to windows ...wtf ???

UnreaL
02-28-2005, 06:07 AM
Grr just like me, HUGE PROBLEMS!

got the Ultra-D, twinmos UTT, XP-120, Winchester 3200+, Saphire X850XT, Seagate 120gb SATA, Tagan 480W all together.

Then I tried to install, all went ok, formatted and gets to the '39 minutes left' in installation, then I get LOADS of errors:

Error setup could not register the OLE control F:\WINDOWS\system32\rsnaenh.dll because of the following error
DllRegister server returned error 2147943405 (800703ED)

Error setup could not register the OLE control F:\WINDOWS\system32\dssenh.dll because of the following error
DllRegister server returned error 2147943405 (800703ED)

H:\I386\NT5.CAT The error code is 00096001
A system-level error occured while verifiying trust

The signature for windows XP professional is invalid. Error code is 80096001
A system-level error occured while verifiying trust

Setup failed to install the product catalogues. This is a fatal error.

so basically at this point im thinking ****

I think it must be my custom Nlite/slipsteamed disks so I get out the original XP SP1 disk, gets to same point again but the error is "IRQL" one, the normal BSOD.. so now im thinking, hmm graphics card?! its a brand new X850XT.. hmm!

So I reboot but this time it doesnt BSOD, install goes through.
XP is shugger slow, I mean it explorer keeps crashing out when I open 'my computer'.

Anyways I thought, worth another try with my custom disk (tested and working like 10times before on NF2/NF3 machines) and again we are back to the error above...

HELP!

Temps:
CPU 30
NB 40

Bios: 1/25.

Other info:
The X850 is untested, that is the only BSOD I have had, seems fine and that area of case is nice and cool.
The 2*512 Twinmos UTT are untested also, recieved this morning.

Error's appear to be coming from my XP installation, but I have no clue what could be causing them.

xgman
02-28-2005, 09:01 AM
is there any danger in trying it? i also have a lof of problems...

read the bit in the manual. I think your PS has to support it. Most should. Mine is set this way and works fine.

justwOo
02-28-2005, 09:29 AM
Yeah my board is an A02

Im gonna try taking out my sata and trying my old IDE drive when I get home

and if that doesnt work Im gonna spend all night trying to fix it with different bios settings and bios's then will definetly look further into RMA

saaya
02-28-2005, 09:31 AM
dont know if this is new, but here are two probs i had with my dfi nf4 ultra-d:

problem:
all fans start hdd spins up but nothing happens.
if you enable the speaker on the board it gives a long beep, then a long pause, then a long beep again etc
fix:
stick your memory into slots 1 and 2 or 2 and 4

problem:
windows xp crashes everytime you try to install it, thexp setup crashes at the point where it says "detecting system hardware configuration" or similar (using german xp, not sure it the translation is accurate)
fix:
(not sure what exact setting causes this bug)
load the setup defaults in bios and try again and customize the bios settings again after you installed xp already.

cantankerous
02-28-2005, 11:46 AM
Yesterday i did some tests and I think that a modded bios can "unlock" high vdimm with 3.3v rail.

I set my ram to 3.6v using +5v rail, than i turned off my PSU, i move the jumper 17 and I restart the system.

From bios my vdimm was 3.65v using 3.3v rail (@3.75/3.8v)

So just a modded bios can fix this little problem.

I'm wrong???

This seems very possible. When Bigtoe of OCZ was first testing this board he WAS powering his ram from the 3.3v rail. He mentioned he had it set to 3.5 on the psu and was getting about 3.4v on his ram stable. I would love to see this happen. Perhaps DFI themselves will make this possible or a forum member can mod the bios. BTW... when you switched the jumper back you said you still had high vdimm. Was it stable at this new setting and after a shutdown etc do you still have the option of high vdimm from the 3.3v rail?

Zac89
02-28-2005, 11:49 AM
This seems very possible. When Bigtoe of OCZ was first testing this board he WAS powering his ram from the 3.3v rail. He mentioned he had it set to 3.5 on the psu and was getting about 3.4v on his ram stable. I would love to see this happen. Perhaps DFI themselves will make this possible or a forum member can mod the bios. BTW... when you switched the jumper back you said you still had high vdimm. Was it stable at this new setting and after a shutdown etc do you still have the option of high vdimm from the 3.3v rail?
Yes, it was stable @3.6 (3.3 rail @3.7)

BTW i test my ram with this method and they give error over 3.6v all the same... :(

HolyAk
02-28-2005, 12:01 PM
anyone overclock with 1 pair of 512mb bh6?and wats the best result ??

R0CK3RM4N
02-28-2005, 12:34 PM
ahmm... Did any1 try to boot the DFI with a couple of A-Data "Vitesta" PC-4000 512/256 sticks?...

It seems that TCCD/BH series chips dominate this thread, so it's quite hard to keep up.

cantankerous
02-28-2005, 01:03 PM
hmmm so it seems you can run from 3.3v rail with your method. Very nice find and brave of you to try it hehehe. So only up to 3.6 though? That should be enough though no? With the jumper put back to 3.3v rail does the top corner of the board still get hot?

Zac89
02-28-2005, 01:12 PM
hmmm so it seems you can run from 3.3v rail with your method. Very nice find and brave of you to try it hehehe. So only up to 3.6 though? That should be enough though no? With the jumper put back to 3.3v rail does the top corner of the board still get hot?
you can put it up to 4v, but the 3.3v rail must be about 0.2v upper.

The mosfet isn't too hot ;)

But, as i say, i don't have a stability improvement. ;)

It is more comfortable to use the +5vrail 'cos if you enter the bios to change a timings, the vdimm go down to 3.2v

Need a modded bios... :rolleyes:

saaya
02-28-2005, 03:30 PM
anyone overclock with 1 pair of 512mb bh6?and wats the best result ??

welcome to XtremeSystems :toast:

im using 2 256mb sticks of bh5 if that helps any... works just fine...
bh5 and bh6 are almost identical, maybe they are actually 100% identical, excet for the manufacturing process they were made in. however, i never heard that a board runs with bh5 but not with bh6 or vice versa... so it should work :)


and about high vdimm from the 3.3v rail... why would you want to use the 3.3v rail anyways? is there a problem with vdimm powered by the 5v rail? :confused:

saaya
02-28-2005, 03:32 PM
PC3200 (DDR400) Kingston/512MB *(KVR400X64C3A/512)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingston/256MB *(KVR400X64C3A/256)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingston/512MB *(KVR400X64C25/512)

PC3200 (DDR400) Kingston/256MB *(KVR400X64C25/256)

uhmmmm arent there like 20 different sticks of that kingston memory? each with different memory chips... did they test all of them?

mdzcpa
02-28-2005, 04:22 PM
any good advises for BH-5 and NF4 ?

Sell it and get some tccd.

brassen
02-28-2005, 09:32 PM
I've had my DFi board for almost three weeks now and I'm kinda pleased with it, even
though I've been having some problems with long periods of gaming.

It first appeared when I was playing Hl2Dm, the game hung up and I got error message "The memory could not be read", and I got the same message in Far Cry. It appeared after like 3h of constant gaming, so I thought it was some problem with the memorystick and decided to run memtest a full night, and when I did so I got no errors at all (~9h walltime) so I'm not sure what is causing these problems. Can it be heat from the CPU that affects the memorysticks?
I'm running with OPPainters settings ( http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=704566#post704566 ) @ 3.3V. Any suggestions?

Haven't done any ocing, except for my gfxcard running 410/510

andyOCZ
02-28-2005, 10:19 PM
I've had my DFi board for almost three weeks now and I'm kinda pleased with it, even
though I've been having some problems with long periods of gaming.

It first appeared when I was playing Hl2Dm, the game hung up and I got error message "The memory could not be read", and I got the same message in Far Cry. It appeared after like 3h of constant gaming, so I thought it was some problem with the memorystick and decided to run memtest a full night, and when I did so I got no errors at all (~9h walltime) so I'm not sure what is causing these problems. Can it be heat from the CPU that affects the memorysticks?
I'm running with OPPainters settings ( http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=704566#post704566 ) @ 3.3V. Any suggestions?

Haven't done any ocing, except for my gfxcard running 410/510


It's possible that you are overheating the CPU, causing the memory controller to act up. What are your temps? What speeds are you running and what voltages on the CPU, LDT, and chipset?

That's a wierd message you were getting. It might be your video memory meaning that your video card overclocking is the proiblem. Try your video card at default speeds. Let me know how that works.

Let me know and I will try and help.

brassen
02-28-2005, 11:49 PM
It's possible that you are overheating the CPU, causing the memory controller to act up. What are your temps? What speeds are you running and what voltages on the CPU, LDT, and chipset?

That's a wierd message you were getting. It might be your video memory meaning that your video card overclocking is the proiblem. Try your video card at default speeds. Let me know how that works.

Let me know and I will try and help.

My CPU voltage is 1,45V, and the other ones are at stock values, so I don't think that's the problem here. The temps are, according to speedfan, max 34c after playing for like ~3h. Same thing after like 1h of OCCT.
Maybe it's the video memory, I'm going to try it out when I get home. Thanks for the quick answer.

fagin
03-01-2005, 03:20 AM
anyone overclock with 1 pair of 512mb bh6?and wats the best result ??

OCZ 3200 Platinum Ltd Ed. Here (BH6), 2X512 , 1.5,2,2,5, 260 @ 3.6v, (posted proof elsewhere already)

cantankerous
03-01-2005, 06:12 AM
nice! I have those exact sticks. Going to comprae them to my VX and keep whichever are better.

Juspriss
03-01-2005, 11:05 AM
Sorry guys, can the DFI nF4 SLI use 2x6800 GT/Ultra Leadtek? :confused:
If it can't maybe that will be see as a little bug, no? :rolleyes:

Thnx all for replies & sorry for this "OT" ;) .

Regards :toast:

Abula
03-01-2005, 11:16 AM
Sorry guys, can the DFI nF4 SLI use 2x6800 GT/Ultra Leadtek? Check out this LINK (http://www.subzero.plus.com/SLightly.htm)

BeachKEN
03-01-2005, 01:22 PM
Hi guys, i´m starting to be a "little anoyed" with my Ultra-D mobo. I can´t get over 260HTT. My CPU is a little nice piece of hw, it goes @ 2.6GHz 1.36V real! VCore, originally Winnie 3200+. So I can expect nice OC.
But even if I set multipliar to 7 or 8 to know limits of my RAMsticks, I can´t get over 260 as i said.

Even if the divider is on! :stick:

Tried Mushkin LVLII V2 and now Kingston HyperX ULL both 1GB dual pack kits based as you know on TCCD chips. Both kits performed really good on 260 timings CL2.5-2-3-7 1T 2.8V Bank Interleave Enabled. So there is a huge reserve for higher clocks. I expect next week OCZ Platinum Rev.2 with same chips but on BrainPowerPCB, which OCs better.
Rising Voltage doesn´t solve anything.
Anyone occured same thing?

Zac89
03-01-2005, 01:28 PM
Sell it and get some tccd.
:rolleyes: :stick:

wampir
03-01-2005, 01:37 PM
Does anyone have Antec True Power 480W with dfi ultra-D and x800xt or 6800GT@ultra A64 2.7ghz ??
Is it enough ?? Cause I dont wanna change my psu again

xgman
03-01-2005, 01:46 PM
Sell it and get some tccd.

How about keep it and still get some TCCD? :stick:

fagin
03-01-2005, 02:22 PM
Sorry guys, can the DFI nF4 SLI use 2x6800 GT/Ultra Leadtek? :confused:
If it can't maybe that will be see as a little bug, no? :rolleyes:

Thnx all for replies & sorry for this "OT" ;) .

Regards :toast:

Here's a picture of two Leadtek 6800GTs in use on DFI board - sort of. I had to remove all of the plastic shroud, and then they just about fit - if you want decent temperatures, the strap a 120mm fan to them! With this the top card idles at 47C.

Leadtek Picture (http://premium1.uploadit.org/glorfy/Picture-127.jpg)

sauria
03-01-2005, 05:03 PM
Here's a picture of two Leadtek 6800GTs in use on DFI board - sort of. I had to remove all of the plastic shroud, and then they just about fit - if you want decent temperatures, the strap a 120mm fan to them! With this the top card idles at 47C.

Leadtek Picture (http://premium1.uploadit.org/glorfy/Picture-127.jpg)


Wow, that thing must double as a toaster oven!

Juspriss
03-02-2005, 05:12 AM
Check out this LINK (http://www.subzero.plus.com/SLightly.htm)

Here's a picture of two Leadtek 6800GTs in use on DFI board - sort of. I had to remove all of the plastic shroud, and then they just about fit - if you want decent temperatures, the strap a 120mm fan to them! With this the top card idles at 47C.

Leadtek Picture (http://premium1.uploadit.org/glorfy/Picture-127.jpg)
Tnx all m8! :D
OMG... the space is really short! :eek:
Maybe, Fagin, you are going right, without the black-plastic chasis and a 120x120 fan on the top card will be the best choice ;) , but is it as good as for OC cards? :confused:

Regards :toast: .

TEDY
03-02-2005, 09:46 AM
I'm getting anonyed with random freezes.......wtf is going on ? I can't do multitasking at all :(

slayer899
03-02-2005, 11:32 AM
I'm getting anonyed with random freezes.......wtf is going on ? I can't do multitasking at all :(

I had problems similar to this, despite hours and hours of prime stability and game stability and superpi, it had to do with all the different ram settings in the bios causing it to freeze randomly, so once i changed them it stopped doing this

TEDY
03-02-2005, 11:38 AM
yeah i also suspect ram settings......in bios...no clue tho what to change :)

fagin
03-02-2005, 12:31 PM
Tnx all m8! :D
OMG... the space is really short! :eek:
Maybe, Fagin, you are going right, without the black-plastic chasis and a 120x120 fan on the top card will be the best choice ;) , but is it as good as for OC cards? :confused:

Regards :toast: .

With that set up, and AS5, the top card idles 47C, load 78C. Max stable O/C 428/1158. I'll slap a waterblock on soon!

gundamit
03-02-2005, 01:01 PM
Sell it and get some tccd.
This is my only problem with this board. I was looking forward to getting to having a little fun with my BH-5, but there seems to be a lot of obstacles and not a lot of options. I just want to get some more volts to my BH-5. Can't use the booster and go dual channel. Bah! This board doesn't have the LPUT bios/pot option. Bah! And now after throwing the jumper to draw off the 5v rail, I get the volts but my BH-5 craps out if I throw more than 3.3v at it! Even with all settings the same (334HTT 3:4 divider = 250.5) I go from stable to memtest throwing out errors if I make no other change than going from 3.3v to 3.4v. :brick: This memory on the LPUT board had no problem with 3.5v. I know others have reported the same thing with their BH-5, but I don't see solution in this thread. I know OPPainter has his VX flying and I have the poor man's version (Twinmos SP) on the way, but it bothers me that my Mushkin Promo 2-2-2 may have to sit. I'm using the 2/9 bios BTW.

The Mushkin can still run the CPU right up to the same spot my TCCD can, and the difference in timings and dividers don't seem to make any difference in SuperPI. Other than giving up about 1,000mb/s bandwidth I haven't noticed much difference and they "feel " about the same. But if performance is equal I'll go with the TCCD since I can give them .3v less voltage and deal with a little less heat.

TEDY
03-02-2005, 01:25 PM
I'm getting very disapointed with DFI NF4 overall

System isn't smooth as used to have in NF2 :(

Damn it ...threw 500$ out for nothing :(

mdzcpa
03-02-2005, 04:20 PM
Those with BH5 should have flashed to BIOS 218 a long time ago. Start with ALL DRAM BIOS settings at Auto...ALL of them. Do NOT use Optimised Defaults right off the bat with BH5.

TCCD runs best at 2.5 4-3-7 on the DFI. Try it.

Memory requires active cooling over 2.9v (the whole area, not just the modules).

Only 24 pin PSUs need apply here.

Has everyone tried all this already. I finished my 5th DFI NF4 build last weekend. I ordered up parts for #6 today. This DFI board is not for the faint of heart, or for those that do not want to put the time into the BIOS or refuse to have top notch supporting hardware. Of the 5 builds Ive assembled, I used 3 with Gskill LE and 2 with LA. All had top end 24 pin PSUs, used both supplemental mobo power connectors, and had active cooling over the memory area when running 2.9v and above. All on BETA BIOS 218. All BIOSes manually tweaked.

Hope this helps someone.

Zedex
03-02-2005, 05:38 PM
What sort of clocks were you getting with your Gskill?

mdzcpa
03-02-2005, 05:45 PM
What sort of clocks were you getting with your Gskill?

LE does 290 to 318 depending on voltage. 2.9v takes me to 292. 3v to 308. 3.1v to 312. 3.2v to 318.

LA not as well, maxed out at 302 regardless of voltage.

I always use the same settings 2.5-4-3-7.

bachus_anonym
03-02-2005, 05:50 PM
One thing I noticed as far as Gskill TCCD modules:

2x512MB - put them in DIMM slots 1 and 3 (orange)
2x256MB - again, in DIMM slots 2 and 4 (yellow)

At least works for me...
Using e.g. yellow slots for 2x512MB @ DDR630 casues system to fail during POST.
But using those same slots with 2x256MB yields better ocability of forementioned sticks ;)

Zedex
03-02-2005, 05:53 PM
That was basically what I was doing with my LE's. 2.5-4-3-7 with 3Volts for anything over 290. For some reason though I couldn't get over 300 even when upping the voltage. Had to drop the CAS to 3 in order to get any kind of stability. I think I need spend a bit more time tweaking other timings, maybe lax a few of them.

Did you find any certain tREF value worked better for them?

sauria
03-02-2005, 05:57 PM
Those with BH5 should have flashed to BIOS 218 a long time ago. Start with ALL DRAM BIOS settings at Auto...ALL of them. Do NOT use Optimised Defaults right off the bat with BH5.

TCCD runs best at 2.5 4-3-7 on the DFI. Try it.

Memory requires active cooling over 2.9v (the whole area, not just the modules).

Only 24 pin PSUs need apply here.

Has everyone tried all this already. I finished my 5th DFI NF4 build last weekend. I ordered up parts for #6 today. This DFI board is not for the faint of heart, or for those that do not want to put the time into the BIOS or refuse to have top notch supporting hardware. Of the 5 builds Ive assembled, I used 3 with Gskill LE and 2 with LA. All had top end 24 pin PSUs, used both supplemental mobo power connectors, and had active cooling over the memory area when running 2.9v and above. All on BETA BIOS 218. All BIOSes manually tweaked.

Hope this helps someone.
Good to hear -- how stable are your systems built this way in continuous use?

sauria
03-02-2005, 06:02 PM
Does anyone have Antec True Power 480W with dfi ultra-D and x800xt or 6800GT@ultra A64 2.7ghz ??
Is it enough ?? Cause I dont wanna change my psu again
Nope, that's living dangerously low power. How many amps on the 12V rail?

mdzcpa
03-02-2005, 06:16 PM
Did you find any certain tREF value worked better for them?

Your set up is very close to my "standard" build. It is likely that choice of components is critical.

I use a tREF of 3684 or 4708.


Good to hear -- how stable are your systems built this way in continuous use?

All of these rigs are 24/7 use.