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Piazza0028
03-07-2005, 02:50 AM
Mods, I'm extremely sorry for posting this again, but I cannot find a way to contact Hell-Fire any other way. He hasn't answered my PMs or Emails. Hell-fire, first you said you shipped my NF7-S back in early december, then you told me you shipped it early februrary. I still haven't gotten it back. Do you have tracking information for it? Please contact me.
I understand you're exceedingly busy, but I'd really like to get this mobo back and sell it, the longer I wait the more it depreciates in value. If you haven't modded it yet, just send it back un-modded and that'd be ok too. Sorry once again to both mods and hell-fire for bugging you, but I sent my mobo back in late october. 5 months later and I still don't have it back, despite the fact that you said turn around time was around 2 weeks :(
saaya
03-07-2005, 07:01 AM
np, i emailed hell-fire and sent him a link, i hope he reports in soon :)
Piazza0028
03-07-2005, 01:05 PM
thanks, much appreciated.
enzoR
03-07-2005, 01:15 PM
ouch. i hope it gets resolved soon. 5 months!
Piazza0028
03-07-2005, 03:29 PM
likewise on that, I've been really patient, but it's getting a little ridiculous :(
CaTalyst.X
03-07-2005, 03:38 PM
Yeah 5 months is.......rediculous. Although he has been busy w/ other stuff lately.
-CaT
um same hear. he said he would ship my stuff 3 weeks ago and hasnt responded to any pms. i realy didnt want to post anything b/c he has been helpful but seing as the thread was here.......
happyhero
03-08-2005, 03:42 AM
maybe you got scammed or he stuffed the mod up!
FallenAngel
03-08-2005, 04:18 AM
I don't know personally Hell-Fire, but from all threads he posted he is not a scam, b4 posting things like that go atleast read his posts, as some1 else said he probably is too busy, but 5 months is too much indeed...
Piazza0028
03-08-2005, 12:00 PM
I definately don't think he scammed me. I know at one point he had like 20 things he was working on. It's definately possible he pushed it to the side and forgot about it or something
jumanji969
03-08-2005, 12:17 PM
You'll get it back...eventually like I did. Took my board about just as long and I have yet to even plug the board in and test it since I got it back a month ago. Prolly just end up selling the darn thing now :(.
He's a good man though, just hard to contact.
Piazza0028
03-08-2005, 02:28 PM
yep yep... but as I said before, the longer I wait the harder it will be to sell for fair value... with A64 becomining the standard now it's going to be difficult as it is
Piazza0028
03-09-2005, 07:01 PM
soo anyone know where he might be?
HiJon89
03-09-2005, 07:14 PM
My P4C800-E took about a month to get back, during that time he never responded to my PM's. One day I just received a PM from him that my board had shipped, 3 days later it arrived, I think the only thing you can really do is wait and hope, it will reach you eventually.
Piazza0028
03-10-2005, 07:07 AM
but the problem is that he's told me on two occasions that it was "shipping this week" and I still have no mobo :(
runmc
03-11-2005, 11:01 PM
I hope you get your board back soon.
Moved by runmc
FUGGER
03-11-2005, 11:46 PM
I heard from Hell-Fire today and he assured me all boards have been recently shipped.
He should be back on site in a week or so.
Piazza0028
03-12-2005, 01:54 PM
thanks for your help. my question is what happened if it got lost in the mail? does he have tracking info or anything?
well, I guess I'll wait another week, but in a worst case scenario where it doesn't come by say, friday or so, what should I do?
Crankster
03-12-2005, 03:05 PM
Get him to cover the cost for the board.
5 months IMO is just too long a time.
I'd try to get him to buy you a new board equal to the value yours had when he recieved it.
FUGGER
03-12-2005, 03:30 PM
I would think that Wednesday of next week is more than enough time for board to reach anywhere in the US. Keep us posted
Piazza0028
03-12-2005, 08:19 PM
Get him to cover the cost for the board.
5 months IMO is just too long a time.
I'd try to get him to buy you a new board equal to the value yours had when he recieved it.
I can't even get in touch, it'd be hard to negotiate if I can't reach him :(
scrible88
03-12-2005, 09:02 PM
This sounds pretty ridiculous. I've heard he's a good guy but you never know! I've been scammed by someone who was "trustworthy" on another forum.
Crankster
03-12-2005, 11:22 PM
Well, the police can get in contact with ppl. Thats what they do.
Let's not jump to conclusions, wait until wednesday.
Piazza0028
03-13-2005, 06:28 PM
will do.
Piazza0028
03-16-2005, 06:40 PM
ok I don't wanna drag a dead horse through the mud, but it still hasn't come. what's the deal, can anyone help me?
Kazoo
03-16-2005, 06:48 PM
I'll ping him and see whats up.
Doubs
03-16-2005, 07:49 PM
Yeah, its about to come to a head here in Texas as well. Been waiting a long time. Lots of excuses.
Doubs
well i have been waiting also. still nothing an no responses to any pms :(
well i have been waiting also. still nothing an no responses to any pms :(
Same Here! Since 1/11/05. :(
saaya
03-20-2005, 04:06 AM
im really sorry for you guys :(
im 100$% sure he WILL pop up again, i just dont know when :/
Piazza0028
03-20-2005, 09:21 AM
any updates?
Crankster
03-20-2005, 09:25 AM
Call the cops on him Piazza0028. He can't do that.
jjcom
03-20-2005, 11:45 AM
I would wait and see if Kazoo can get ahold of him. Or one of the other mods/admins
jjcom
lalPOOO
03-20-2005, 11:58 AM
We are trying to do something about it. I will leave it at that for now.
:idea: Durham NC isnt that far away. :devil: :slash: :hehe:
**Franticly looks for doctor’s # Needs to up Meds**
Crankster
03-20-2005, 02:41 PM
VERY nice of the mods to help with this, shows what a stand up place we hae :toast:
Kazoo
03-20-2005, 02:50 PM
chilly1 has left him a voice message to contact us. We should hear back from him soon.
saaya
03-21-2005, 08:16 AM
VERY nice of the mods to help with this, shows what a stand up place we hae :toast:
thx :)
rest assured that this wont happen again, this situation has happened several times already... and it seems he just cant reject to mod stuff for people even though hes extremely busy with other stuff, so i think its best for him as well if he doesnt mod stuff for people anymore :/
rhino56
03-21-2005, 10:55 AM
my grandfather told me once as i explained to him my brilliant ideas and plans and all the things i could do.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
Doubs
03-21-2005, 01:37 PM
Just for the record Ron emailed me on the 17th and said my boards had been shipped. No shipping info, no who, what, when, where, how etc. Also for the record I have been told that 2 times before. As of today I still have nothing.
Doubs
It's a bit of a pride thing I'm sure, but all the non-modified equipment should just be sent back with an apology. Nothing wrong with getting too busy with other things... as long as you send back people's equipment. ;)
Good luck everyone(including you Hell-Fire). :toast:
jjcom
03-21-2005, 02:12 PM
It's a bit of a pride thing I'm sure, but all the non-modified equipment should just be sent back with an apology. Nothing wrong with getting too busy with other things... as long as you send back people's equipment. ;)
Good luck everyone(including you Hell-Fire). :toast:
well said Jeff :toast:
jjcom
skate2snow
03-21-2005, 02:23 PM
Hell-Fire is far from a bad guy.... Thats actually why he his in this situation ATM... The quote of Rhino is perfect for this subject. I cant really talk because I am not in the situation, but PLEASE, do not think anything bad about him. XS staffs are on this matter, and will solve this.
Crankster, I hate the post 32.... He has even been sick for too much Vmodding (twice if not three) and he is at the university in engeneering AFAIK which is VERY time consuming.
But yes, he should have all shipped back.
Crankster
03-21-2005, 03:26 PM
Maybe the procedure is diffrent in the US, it most likely is.
BUT, when someone won't respond even after several attempts and emails from mods and whatnot. In my opinion they have the right to call the police on him, morally.
Back here (*waves*) you can use the police in cases such as this to get ahold of someone and have them to meet their part of the bargain.
Dark79
03-23-2005, 08:42 PM
Hmm, didn't the last version of this thread get deleted?
Anyway, my board's been gone since the beginning of February. No contact here either. Not even to let me know that it's shipped when it hasn't :p:
CaTalyst.X
03-23-2005, 11:11 PM
Hell-Fire is far from a bad guy.... Thats actually why he his in this situation ATM... The quote of Rhino is perfect for this subject. I cant really talk because I am not in the situation, but PLEASE, do not think anything bad about him. XS staffs are on this matter, and will solve this.
Crankster, I hate the post 32.... He has even been sick for too much Vmodding (twice if not three) and he is at the university in engeneering AFAIK which is VERY time consuming.
But yes, he should have all shipped back.
Yeah dude but what are people supposed to think now.......no response, he gets on the forums, doesnt respond to pms, no communication whatsoever and he has had some ppls stuff for more than 3 months.......
-CaT
Dark79
03-27-2005, 06:07 PM
I'm guessing no one's heard back.... :(
Doubs
03-27-2005, 06:35 PM
I'm guessing no one's heard back.... :(
1 pm on 2/13, 1 pm on 3/9, 1 email 2-3 weeks ago (on my laptop) all lies :(
No other returned phone calls, pm's or emails.................................... :mad:
Doubs
IvanAndreevich
03-27-2005, 07:58 PM
Isn't anybody on here FRIENDS with him who can get in touch with him?
Crankster
03-28-2005, 02:16 AM
By now i'd definately call the cops on him.
Theft.
By now i'd definately call the cops on him.
Theft.
I prefer impaling. :devil:
Crownie
03-28-2005, 02:26 AM
By now i'd definately call the cops on him.
Theft.
:cord:
G H Z
03-28-2005, 02:29 AM
Back here (*waves*) you can use the police in cases such as this to get ahold of someone and have them to meet their part of the bargain.
Wow that must be nice, they just sit around over here and write speeding tickets. If I called them to ask something along those lines they would just laugh after they hung up, and I'm paying their salary.
Dark79
03-28-2005, 05:00 PM
I'm starting to lose faith myself. I mean he's still relatively active with his last post on 3/13. And he's read the last PM I sent him on the 15th. But no word back at all. :(
Well, if people are serious of kicking things up a notch (*BAM!*) then it should probably be a joint effort. Strength in numbers and all that jazz.
n00by
03-29-2005, 08:53 AM
Good man, didnt keep the best of 'book keeping' and got swamped. Innoncent mistake.
rhino56
03-29-2005, 10:53 AM
ive had something like this happen before to me, a person had 2 of my antec 550 psu's for modding and never returned them. i tracked him down after he moved from one state to the next, got his address, sent him emails. i was ignored for about a year maybe, but then i found him on a forum where he was a mod and also a local lan forum which people new him.
there were very suprised to hear it thats for sure, because he seemed like such an outstanding guy to them.
well he was an outstanding guy, but what happened was he got lazy and didnt do the work, then it got into the stage of its been so long now cant show my face about it, then it got to the point where it was such old news
he hoped it would just go away and i would give up.
he surely didnt know me very well
when he took the psus from me his intentions were good, it just got to be one of those things, he has now been paying me back for them a little at a time. he is almost all the way payed off.
i know when he finally admitted that yes it was him, yes he did take my psus, yes he will pay me back it must have felt wonderful for him to not have to hide anymore.
so dont ever let it go, if you do that person will never be able to become honest again. thats a crime in itself, in sure hellfire would love for things to go back to the way they were.
FUGGER
03-29-2005, 10:55 PM
All access removed to all other forums except this one for Hell-Fire. He was sent a PM to respond in 48 hours. He has been seen online in the past few days without a peep to anyone.
Ron, Please speak up now before this gets any worse. You assured me that everything was shipped weeks ago and it seems that is not the case.
Most people speak highly of you, please do not end it like this.
hollywood
03-29-2005, 11:05 PM
All access removed to all other forums except this one for Hell-Fire. He was sent a PM to respond in 48 hours. He has been seen online in the past few days without a peep to anyone.
Ron, Please speak up now before this gets any worse. You assured me that everything was shipped weeks ago and it seems that is not the case.
Most people speak highly of you, please do not end it like this.
Man...this is a dammned shame. Is Hellfire in NC? 'Cause I'm only 1.5 hours away from Raleigh. PM me his contact info if this is the case.
-Sean
bachus_anonym
03-29-2005, 11:12 PM
That's really sad... I've always thought of Ron as really responsible guy :( Hopefully it's not too late to resolve it without involving "outside" methods...
Ron, come on man! Talk to those people. You were here on Monday... Say something...
Man...this is a dammned shame. Is Hellfire in NC? 'Cause I'm only 1.5 hours away from Raleigh. PM me his contact info if this is the case.
-Sean
Durham :devil:
saaya
03-30-2005, 10:56 AM
maybe it wasnt him and somebody just used his pc and went to xs?
unlikely though... :/
too bad it had to come to this :shakes:
Hell was always nice to me, but how hard is it to to 10 mins to tell everyone what is going on?
jjcom
03-30-2005, 01:32 PM
yeah, he always seemed like he was alright, helping out XS. Now this. Sad to see, :(
jjcom
Good man, didnt keep the best of 'book keeping' and got swamped. Innoncent mistake.
Hay i fully understand if he's swamped. I know whats its like to bite off more then you can chew when it comes to taking on too much work a little over a year ago i was working so many hours that i had a stroke. But what i dont understand is why he cant pop in and say im swamped and cant keep up with the demand I'd be ok with that But to say nothing at all is wrong. Come on Bro i havent lost faith in you yet. :2cents:
CaTalyst.X
03-30-2005, 03:25 PM
Innocent mistake...like 4 times over....3-6months isnt an innocent mistake, dont get me wrong ive never had any problems with the guy but im sick of ppl trying to justify it at this point.
-CaT
skate2snow
03-30-2005, 03:51 PM
dont get me wrong.... What he is doing is far from right....
Piazza0028
03-31-2005, 10:38 AM
well so far I haven't received anything and he still refuses to answer PM's or Emails... I sent an email to trollhunters so maybe they can help out...
wow -- i can't believe i didn't find this thread lol after it was moved, I just got caught up on everything... and this sucks.
I've sent him numerous pm's and emails that say if you haven't modded it just please send it back unmodded with the money I sent, still nothing... any other updates at this point?
Crankster
03-31-2005, 11:03 AM
Thief i say!
This thread is about to get bumped to the next page b/c it was moved. can a mod please start a new thread with these posts?
Dark79
03-31-2005, 04:40 PM
This thread is about to get bumped to the next page b/c it was moved. can a mod please start a new thread with these posts?
I think it definately needs a sticky.
But yeah, I think I'll give trollhunters a look.
Entity_Razer
04-01-2005, 02:22 PM
cranckster please keep such talkj to yourself. think it but don't get people here all worked up.
Just call the police, and tell them you need to contact a person urgently and it concearns property of yours that is residing atr his hosue. they will most likly contact his district and they will go to his house and deliver the news/word.
btw has chilly or kazoo or fugger gotten a hold on him yet?
FUGGER
04-01-2005, 02:23 PM
We have tried many time and he does not respond anymore.
Entity_Razer
04-01-2005, 02:26 PM
maybe someone living close can go by and pickup the hardware (read: reposses the hardware) from him
Piazza0028
04-01-2005, 03:46 PM
thanks a lot hell-fire...
I'm tired of this, I'm just going to eat the 100 some odd dollars and let him win... it's not worth my energy at this point
bachus_anonym
04-01-2005, 03:49 PM
I'm curious to know something...
How many people actually have send him hardware and not received it back yet, not even any news ar estimates on shipping date?
What's the value of all those mobos, video cards and psus?
Crankster
04-01-2005, 04:22 PM
Yeah, i was thinking the same thing. Maybe he got greedy and stole it all? It seems no better.
Dark79
04-01-2005, 04:43 PM
I sent him an Abit IC7-MAX3 for a vdimm mod. The worst part was that I send a little extra cash for his troubles. I think I'll look into contacting his local police and trollhunters. Even though I did get another board, I can't let this go.
thanks a lot hell-fire...
I'm tired of this, I'm just going to eat the 100 some odd dollars and let him win... it's not worth my energy at this point
I wouldn't.
Doubs
04-01-2005, 06:43 PM
I spoke to Ron many times in the month's of December and January both on the phone via email and PM. He would answer everytime or get right back to me. I wanted my son's board done and a friend of his done at the same time. I told him time was really an issue and that these 2 young men were getting ready for the new semester. He told me he could relate as he was a student as well. He told me 2 weeks max turnaround time. He gave me a price. I sent more than double his asking price so we could get them done and back before the new semester. I sent him the following items:
1-ASUS P4C-800-E-DELUXE mobo
1-ABIT IS7-MAX3 mobo
1-INTEL 2.4 30 cap NORTHWOOD cpu
1-INTEL OEM HEATSINK & FAN
$250.00 cash
It also cost me $48.23 to next day air these items to expedite the process. He said he needed the cpu and fan to test the boards with. (1st redflag?)
After he got the items on January 19th contact with me has been almost nill. (2nd redflag?) He no longer answers any form of contact period. I was worried from the start and contacted a member here who to date has be as helpfull as he could be. So as far as I am concerned Ron Bradley is a liar and a thief. It is as plain and simple as that. And to make matters worse I have the other young mans dad all over my ass about his sons board on almost a daily basis. Thats just great too. Nothing but fun times thanks to Ron. 2 mad students and a pissed off old man. Just what I needed.
Ron, if you read this, I do not care about the mods, just send our parts back and let's end this nightmare. Keep the money as well. Just send the parts back. Do the right thing man, what goes around comes around. You got some bad karma right now my friend.
On a much better note I sent a board to Malves on Tuesday and it is already on it's way back for my son. Imagine that, a man of his word that did what he said he would do. Nice job Marcelo :up:
Doubs
Fzero
04-01-2005, 07:01 PM
this really sucks i would hate to see this happen like this maybe he was hospitalized or something surely hes not gana just run off with every ones stuff is there anyway to contact his family?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell-Fire (This was on 1/7/05)
Hey Vlad.
Thats exactlly what I am looking for actually. A trade for the board in exchange for VMods would be perfect.
Just ship me the board, and then whatever other hardware you want worked on and we are good to go. Be sure to include a note in the box stating exactlly what you would like modded so that there is no confusion.
Shipping:
Ron Bradley
5526 xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx
Durham, NC 27703
Thanks a ton man. I really need this board.
-Fire
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell-Fire (This was on 2/4/05)
Hey Vlad.
All hardware, including yours, will go this coming week.
I will make sure yours goes out early (Mon-Tues).
Fire
(And this is what i sent him on 3/17/05)
I Dont care if you didnt get to it yet just send my Video card back and keep the Abit board i sent you in trade .
"I JUST WANT MY CARD BACK!"
Wow Doubs you are $©r3w3d.
http://members.cox.net/vladz1rtc/VladTepesImpaleForest+%28Custom%29.jpg
How I miss the good old days. :devil:
Ackbar
04-01-2005, 07:46 PM
Good luck with this poor situation guys!
To all that think they can get help from the police: I've had a problem similar to that before, where a service was supposed to be rendered but wasn't. I tried to report the item as stolen, but the police wouldn't let me. They said it was a civil matter and that I should hire a lawyer and take the guy to small claim's court. It wasn't worth it. In addition, I actually made this guy sign a contract with his driver's license # and a witness. It didn't matter. :fact:
I wouldn't bother with the police ATM. If this has happened to enough people though, that constitutes fraud and you can actually report it as that. So my suggestion would be to get a bunch of people together, all the names and proof of sending him stuff and then contact the authorities. If you can prove it happened to enough people they start to care (that's what they told me).
Piazza0028
04-01-2005, 07:55 PM
I sent him an abit nf7-s and $40 in cash to be vdimm modded
So my suggestion would be to get a bunch of people together, all the names and proof of sending him stuff and then contact the authorities. If you can prove it happened to enough people they start to care (that's what they told me).
:yepp:
damn this sucks bad :mad:
I had him Vmod some of my stuff awhile ago, a 9800Pro and a IS7 board.
although I got it all back, all the ports on the mobo were fried... USB PS2 PCI. Only thing that worked was the AGP slot. Worst of all he didnt tell me it died he said it was shipping. The 9800 worked fine though, kinda worthless though without a motherboard. Took him awhile to send my stuff also, although I eventually got it. I gave him some money also...
I'm really very disturbed it came to something like this. Are we ruling out the posibility that something could have happened to him? He hurt himself or something? I don't know, just thinking...
well, i learned my lesson a while back when he completely screwed my MAX3 and took forever to reply or get back to me and admit he screwed things up. after that incident, i used malves and his skills completely own HF's. plus Malves is someone you can trust.
i will never let anyone else touch my hardware other than Malves...
jjcom
04-01-2005, 08:45 PM
yeah, I guess he just wanted to build up everyone's trust, then just take the stuff. Sad way to see him go. Yeah, I could see the police not doing much, but yeah, all the guys who sent him stuff should get together. That might make "them" listen
Good luck to all who lost hardware
jjcom
yeah, I guess he just wanted to build up everyone's trust, then just take the stuff. Sad way to see him go. Yeah, I could see the police not doing much, but yeah, all the guys who sent him stuff should get together. That might make "them" listen
Good luck to all who lost hardware
jjcom
I think this makes alot of sense. we should all call the same headquaters and complain. this will definatly get the cops off thier ass and over to his residence.
jjcom
04-01-2005, 08:53 PM
The whole "Strength in numbers" saying seems to be your best friend in a case like this
jjcom
Doubs
04-01-2005, 08:54 PM
Well after reading these replies and some other threads I would REALLY prefer that you do not touch our boards Ron. Surely you can take a little of that $250.00 I sent you and ship them back to us. By the way all our items were almost new and all shipped in their original boxes placed inside a larger box. Come on Ron, what can it cost you to ship them back to me, $20.00 bucks at the most? You made $230.00 for doing nothing (I hope) except causing alot of grief.
Ron, don't mod our boards, please just send them back. You have your money.
Doubs
Then lets get the heads i mean ball rolling.
Durham Police Chief
(919) 560-4322
505 W Chapel Hill St
Durham, NC 27701
Isnt mapquest a wonderful thing.
I wonder if any of my bros are still stationed at Fort Bragg?:fight: :CTF: :explode2: :frag: :shoot:
:devil:
WeStSiDePLaYa
04-01-2005, 09:10 PM
man, i would be pissed. if i was local to him i would be knocking on his door. god, what a loser. its BS that people make excuses for him. he has been online and hasnt said a damn word. he is a coward in my mind, and a con.
BTW: has anyone got anything modded by him and not have it take forever or get partially fried?
Doubs
04-01-2005, 09:15 PM
He is in the county, you have to call the Durham County Sheriff's Office 919-560-0900.
Doubs
I had stuff done by him and I got it back really really quick and all the mods were perfect.
He is in the county, you have to call the Durham County Sheriff's Office 919-560-0900.
Doubs
:D Take your pick.
Durham County Criminal Justice (919) 560-0500
102 E Main St, Durham, NC 27701
Durham County Juvenile Crime (919) 560-7988
121 Market St, Durham, NC 2770
Durham County Sheriff (919) 560-0897
201 E Main St, Durham, NC 27701
Durham County Sheriff (919) 560-0659
326 E Main St, Durham, NC 27701
Durham County Sheriff Training (919) 560-0930
11821 US Highway 501, Rougemont, NC 27572
Durham County Sheriff's Dept (919) 560-0940
2910 Old Page Rd, Durham, NC 27701
Durham County Sheriff Dept (919) 560-0987
5323 Wake Forest Rd, Durham, NC 27703
:devil:
Kazoo
04-01-2005, 10:10 PM
I am truly sorry it has come to this. I turned over all over his contact info that we have to tonyh at trollhunters yesterday.
STEvil
04-01-2005, 10:45 PM
:(.
shimmishim
04-01-2005, 11:07 PM
strange...
i sent him a dfi ultra infinity skt A board sometime.... last year to fix a broken trace... he fixed it and returned it promptly w/in a week.
i still wouldn't rule out the possibility that something happened to him. it's possible someone else is logging on under his name.
it just doesn't make sense to me why he would work on tons of stuff, send it back and then one day decide to keep everything...
Granted it doesnt make sense. When i had my stroke i wasnt around for almost a year. But I didnt have everybodys gear either, He should make or have someone some kind of effort to contact someone with the truth and as we've all seen he or someone logged on as him has been on line.
WeStSiDePLaYa
04-02-2005, 09:19 AM
he gets back logged with bills or fries his own hardware seeing as most of his mods fail, and he decideds to keep some stuff or sell it under a different name.
lalPOOO
04-02-2005, 09:46 AM
he gets back logged with bills or fries his own hardware seeing as most of his mods fail, and he decideds to keep some stuff or sell it under a different name.
You and others are talking a lot of trash about someone who used to be a very helpful and respected member of the community. Look at this thread and tell me all his mods fail and that he planned this from day one.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37574&highlight=hell-fire
To everyone whos stuff he has, don't think I am trying to protect him because I'm not. I would love to see you all get your stuff back, along either a very good reason why hes had it for so long, or a very big apollogy($$).
Think about it this way, if he was dead, would you want to be saying what you were? If the answer is no, and he doesn't even have your stuff, then maybe this thread isn't the place for your comments.
he gets back logged with bills or fries his own hardware seeing as most of his mods fail, and he decideds to keep some stuff or sell it under a different name.
Well i dont think that is the case. If most of his mods were failing we would have heard about it. As lalPooo stated he was a very helpful and respected member of this community. People say a lot of hurtful things when theyre pissed off, I just hope if he comes back he has a good reason for all this. Im willing to listen before Impaling him. SORRY ABOUT THAT I HAVE TO GO.
"Yells to wife in background honey quick bring me my Medication"
WeStSiDePLaYa
04-02-2005, 09:10 PM
dude, there is no good excuse, he has been on the forums.
think about it, he was not in an accident or anything, its not like one day he just disappeared. he slowly lost contact and broke promises to people before he vanished. and then he even told Fugger that he was sending stuff out but didnt. so lapoo how did he manage to talk to fugger if he is dead or in the hospital or something?
and just because he WAS a good guy doest mean sh*t. i wouldnt go easy on a murderer if he saved a dozen kids from a burning house earlier in his life.
Crankster
04-03-2005, 08:26 AM
Very true, the silk gloves must go.
I have some Lead filled gloves. :devil:
jumanji969
04-03-2005, 09:04 AM
Went to Hellfire for some vmods back in September because of his reputation as a good vmodder. 4 months later I finally got my board back to find the board was unique in the fact that it seems to be the first and only DFI board to have a bios chip hard soldered in. I know Hellfire didn't do it, but he also never said anything to me about it (had the board RMA'd directly to him). Kinda ticked me off because I figured he had modded enough motherboards to see something like that (which I noticed within minutes of taking it out of the box).
Haha I still have four pm's in my inbox from Hellfire saying "the board will be done this week." Mind you each of the pm's were at least 2 weeks apart.
I really hope you guys get your stuff back.
Piazza0028
04-03-2005, 09:32 PM
at this point I've given up hope -- if anyone does pay him a visit please let me know :)
craig588
04-03-2005, 09:49 PM
I know he lives in Texas, but does he happen to live near Fort Worth, Texas?
EDIT: oops, I'm wrong
I thought he lives in North Carolina. :confused:
Ron Bradley
5526 xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx
Durham, NC 27703
Crankster
04-04-2005, 04:32 PM
Can someone pay him a visit?
acesea
04-05-2005, 12:12 PM
I just spotted this thread, I wish I saw this BEFORE I sent him my board. I don't know how I missed this thread when I was looking for modders on xs a couple of weeks ago, I would have gone with someone else who was even charging me less. I just assumed since he was a moderator and was pretty respected here that he was the better choice.
Anyway, I sent him my IC7-Max3 about a month ago. I feel for you guys who've been waiting 4+ months, but I need to get my board back THIS WEEK! I need to finish a project for a client with the machine that uses the max3 board- The video editing apps security is so strict that it wont allow for system changes. He told me it would take 2 weeks max, like he's said to others.
I wasnt able to find his phone # at first, so looking thru 411.com I found a couple of his neighbors numbers and being that most of them were friendly I asked them to stop by his place and rely the message that 'I' need my board back, and they left my number too.
Still no response, so today I spoke with a sargeant in his area, he should stop by his house sometime soon.
Lets get a list going of people who are still waiting for their stuff and get a little more serious about this. As mentioned, at this point a lot of people don't even care if there stuff is modded, they just NEED IT BACK!!
jjcom
04-05-2005, 03:05 PM
At least you guys are giving him a good :stick: The neibors start asking about if your just making some stuff up, point them in the direction of this thread. If his neibors reliease what he's done, he might be more willing to send stuff back.
jjcom
Doubs
04-05-2005, 06:08 PM
So he was still taking equipment and money from people a month ago? Let's get this guy. Start a list. I need that contact info for the sergeant acesea. I want my boards back. Looks like he has the market on MAX 3's
Doubs
acesea
04-05-2005, 08:37 PM
Alright, I'm going to contact the Police Department again in his area tommorrow and get the ball rolling on this. I really hate to do this, as I've also told Ron, but the way he's going about this is ridiculous. You guys don't hear from him for months now, but 3-4 weeks ago when I pmed him if he would do my board he responded back to all 4!!! of my pms within like 12 hours! He assured me as he did to everyone else that it would take a week or two and he'd sent it back done.
Anyway, I don't think theres any more explaining necessary on our parts so here's the deal..
So far here's the list I've gathered of people who are still waiting on their stuff, whether it be mb's or anything else:
Piazza0028
JSU
vlad
Dark79
Doubs
If theres anyone else please speak up. For those listed, if you could please pm me your name, a number you can be reached at, what parts you sent him, the value of your parts, and how much you paid to get the parts serviced, and the date you sent your items to him. Also, if anyone has his telephone number please pm me that too as it might be helpful.
I will put together this list and find the right person who will be willing to help us out in Durham. With 6 people including myself I don't see why any police station wouldn't take this seriously.
Ackbar
04-05-2005, 08:49 PM
Alright, I'm going to contact the Police Department again in his area tommorrow and get the ball rolling on this. I really hate to do this, as I've also told Ron, but the way he's going about this is ridiculous. You guys don't hear from him for months now, but 3-4 weeks ago when I pmed him if he would do my board he responded back to all 4!!! of my pms within like 12 hours! He assured me as he did to everyone else that it would take a week or two and he'd sent it back done.
Anyway, I don't think theres any more explaining necessary on our parts so here's the deal..
So far here's the list I've gathered of people who are still waiting on their stuff, whether it be mb's or anything else:
Piazza0028
JSU
vlad
Dark79
Doubs
If theres anyone else please speak up. For those listed, if you could please pm me your name, a number you can be reached at, what parts you sent him, the value of your parts, and how much you paid to get the parts serviced, and the date you sent your items to him. Also, if anyone has his telephone number please pm me that too as it might be helpful.
I will put together this list and find the right person who will be willing to help us out in Durham. With 6 people including myself I don't see why any police station wouldn't take this seriously.
I would suggest you call up the police and explain that "fraud" has taken place. If they need, get written proof including written statements from the people involved that has been notarized along with a copy of the driver's licenses of those involved. That should be more than sufficient.
Let me know when you find the guy and ... :bananal:
acesea
04-05-2005, 08:53 PM
hey Piazza0028, i just realized your the same guy I bought 2x512 bh5 sticks from over at overclockers.com like 2 weeks ago. small world, and huge coincidence were both in this mess together haha!
acesea
04-05-2005, 08:56 PM
In that case, should I hold off on getting together peoples info and just speak with the PD tommorrow. Then when needed have each individual person say fax over the necessary information to the PD?
I would suggest you call up the police and explain that "fraud" has taken place. If they need, get written proof including written statements from the people involved that has been notarized along with a copy of the driver's licenses of those involved. That should be more than sufficient.
Let me know when you find the guy and ... :bananal:
This thread needs to be moved to a new one that will be bumped correctly. could a mod please do that? thanks!
O and hes had my IC7 Max3 and 9600xt
Alright, I'm going to contact the Police Department again in his area tommorrow and get the ball rolling on this.
I would suggest you call up the police and explain that "fraud" has taken place.
So he was still taking equipment and money from people a month ago?
Doubs and I were talking about this a few days ago. Its Definitely time to make a list and Contact Sheriff Taylor. @acesea Ill pm you later tonight with my info to get this started.
Doubs
04-06-2005, 07:24 AM
See my post in this section as how to proceed. Don't be a victim, pick up the phone. Thats all it takes.
Doubs
Malves
04-06-2005, 01:00 PM
I talked to Doubs on the phone this morning and asked him to start a new thread on this.
I just splited the thread and made the other one a sticky.
the new thread will only be about informations and about coordinating the legal actions.
here is a link:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=58606
EDIT:
-saaya
masterofpuppets
04-06-2005, 03:43 PM
I am dissapointed in Hell-Fire, I never thought such a trusted member could turn his back on us like that.
saaya
04-06-2005, 05:58 PM
good luck guys :(
im sorry we couldnt prevent this somehow...
Sentential
04-06-2005, 06:00 PM
Unbelievable :( .... I thought he was a nice guy. Guess not :mad:
MaxxxRacer
04-07-2005, 12:21 AM
wow would have never thought this would have gone so far. really quiet sad that it has come to this.
Semper Fi
04-07-2005, 12:26 AM
I am simply in awe of this.... Hell Fire has done so much work for me in the past with great success and speedy returns. I am floored he did this to you guys. Hell Fire, I know you're reading this man, the hardware/money you're holdin out on is NOT WORTH a permanent crimal record. This will follow you FOR LIFE bro... trust me. Its not worth it. Screw pride, don't let fear or pride hold you back from coming forward and returning whatever it is you owe these guys.
hipro5
04-07-2005, 12:52 AM
Come on guys........give him a break.......Maybe he has some money troubles or so.......It's not assame to have money troubles......We all have/had......He may return as soon as he'll be OK.......Don't blame him that much.....He did good things in the past.....You just can't smash his face like that for a crappy mobo or so......HUMANS COUNTS FIRST and all the others comes in second/third....place..... :(
TheDude
04-07-2005, 03:53 AM
People just want to talk about it. If they start another thread to talk about it, they will be told there is already 2 threads open on it...or will that be allowed? Thanks ;)
EDIT: removed the quote of a post i removed
-saaya
Malves
04-07-2005, 04:22 AM
People just want to talk about it. If they start another thread to talk about it, they will be told there is already 2 threads open on it...or will that be allowed? Thanks ;)
Ppl already talked about it. Like I said, everyone here is disapointed and shocked by his attitudes and already talked about it in a 5 page thread. Now it is time for action and this thread is only for that.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=58606
For ppl that had their hardware held by HF and are willing to do something about it.
EDIT:
-saaya
Stang_Man
04-07-2005, 03:34 PM
wow, this is definitely sad to see, coming from somebody such as Hell-Fire. I was never for his idea of doing mods for people because I know from prior experience(other projects) that it would eventually overrun him and he wouldn't be able to do it anymore.
I feel sorry for you guys, but that's why we put out guides on how to do it yourself:) If you still can't, you're in no position to have the mods done in the first place, no offense to anybody.
Good luck guys
saaya
04-07-2005, 04:28 PM
for those who are confused or wonder about some missing/edited posts:
originally this thread was discussing the hell-fire situation, but there was a second thread started wich is supposed to only contain informations and posts to help the victims of hell-fire to coordinate their legal actions wich was stickied, and this thread was closed.
since people kept discussing the basic situation and posted off topic posts in the new thread, here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=58606
we decided to open this discussion thread again.
now i moved all the off topic posts from that thread to this basic discussion thread to keep the other thread clean. some of the posts were confusing though, wich is why i removed and edited some posts from malves and conrad.maranan and edited one post of TheDude. i removed a quote of a post from conrad.maranan wich was from a post i deleted.
i did this to make the last posts in this thread not look confusing and to make it clear that this thread is for dicussions and this thread
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=58606
is for the hell fire victims or anybody who wants to help them.
i hope this clears up all questions, if you have a question about this or want to complain about this please let me know.
-saaya
TheDude
04-07-2005, 06:27 PM
Nice job of cleaning things up and sorting it all out saaya.
While some may "think" this has been discussed enough, as long as 1 person has something more to say they should have the right to post it. I'm glad to see the thread unlocked so people have access again. There's been a lot of thread locking lately.
Both threads make a lot more sense and appear a lot cleaner now. :thumbsup:
How old is Hell-Fire? I thought he was still a minor?
saaya
04-07-2005, 07:14 PM
thx :)
nah, he was at the university afaik, so he has to be at least... how old are guys in the states when they go to the uni? no idear... but not a minor afaik.
and if you want to complain about a thread getting locked, theres the forum comments section... :)
jjcom
04-07-2005, 07:16 PM
at about 18 your out of highschool. So probly 19 or older.
jjcom
Doubs
04-07-2005, 11:32 PM
I feel sorry for you guys, but that's why we put out guides on how to do it yourself:) If you still can't, you're in no position to have the mods done in the first place, no offense to anybody.
Good luck guys
Now that is a really intelligent statement mudstain. Of course he does not have about $1k of your money.
Ron told me he was 37 years old. I thought that was a little old for a student but hey, maybe he was trying to get a new start.
Doubs
STEvil
04-08-2005, 12:17 AM
He is right, though.
If you cant do them or dont know how they work how do we know after we mod something and send it back to you that you wont just crank it up to 2.5v vcore and then get angry back that we didnt put in a failsafe.
Doubs
04-08-2005, 01:08 AM
He is right, though.
If you cant do them or dont know how they work how do we know after we mod something and send it back to you that you wont just crank it up to 2.5v vcore and then get angry back that we didnt put in a failsafe.
No he is not right. How old are you guys? I am 47 I have been building them since they were SX2-66. Thats right, even before DX. I know how they work, I just can't see how to do the mods even with glasses. All I wanted was to pay someone to mod my sons board. It is not a matter of not knowing what to do with the mods, we read enough to know that. It's about the bottom line. He said he would and could do a service for us. We shipped him the items and payed him well. And the bottom line is he stole our equipment and our money. Period.
Anything else?
Doubs
Stang_Man
04-08-2005, 02:28 AM
Now that is a really intelligent statement mudstain. Of course he does not have about $1k of your money.
Doubs
mudstain? ok. well, sorry for your loss, but how the hell did you manage to give $1000 worth to him?
Malves
04-08-2005, 07:02 AM
Vmos are not for experts only. If you don't understand how it works, it doesn't mean you can have a modded board. If you can't solder on your board, it doesn't mean you have no rights to have a modded board.
I can't understand why ppl still make it looks like it is an elite thing.
In more than 30 boards modded, I only had one guy frying his a long time ago. IMO you guys are taking this wrong. If you can not provide support for your costumers, then you should not be offering vmods services.
saaya
04-08-2005, 08:14 AM
guys, please calm down and dont get personal, kay? :)
Piazza0028
04-08-2005, 11:31 AM
heyy sorry everyone, I've been really busy with work... a senior in high school, who would've thunk it. Anwyays I'm gonna get started calling etc.
and acesea - how's the bh5 working out for you? what's your email... I don't think we left each other heat -- a small world indeed
I bought that bh5 to be used with my vmodded abit nf7s... but alas, that never happened thanks to hf :(
twiggy
04-08-2005, 11:36 AM
Vmos are not for experts only. If you don't understand how it works, it doesn't mean you can have a modded board. If you can't solder on your board, it doesn't mean you have no rights to have a modded board.
I can't understand why ppl still make it looks like it is an elite thing.
In more than 30 boards modded, I only had one guy frying his a long time ago. IMO you guys are taking this wrong. If you can not provide support for your costumers, then you should not be offering vmods services.
Pretty much sums it up.. :toast:
Doubs
04-08-2005, 12:16 PM
mudstain? ok. well, sorry for your loss, but how the hell did you manage to give $1000 worth to him?
My apologies, its a Ford vs Chevy thing ;)
If you read back through the thread I explained how he got what he has.
Doubs
HiJon89
04-08-2005, 01:05 PM
I feel sorry for you guys, but that's why we put out guides on how to do it yourself:) If you still can't, you're in no position to have the mods done in the first place, no offense to anybody.
I don't really agree with that, I understand how Vmods work and am perfectly capable of doing them myself but it is worth $40 to me to have it done by an expert.
Stang_Man
04-09-2005, 03:49 PM
I don't really agree with that, I understand how Vmods work and am perfectly capable of doing them myself but it is worth $40 to me to have it done by an expert.
alright, I see where you guys are coming from.. you see the same stuff in the world car modding. can't install it yourself so you just go to a shop. I understand...
Halomarine99
04-10-2005, 05:40 PM
Hi, i also sent Hell-Fire my NF7-s v2 mobo and my psu which he used in his sticky for my psu mods , and i got that stuff back, BUT along with that i sent him 2x256 mb of corsair memory and a ati radeon 9700 pro for him to sell and he takes the money it costed for the mods out of that and send the rest of the money back (around 200 bucks) and he never ever sent it, last i heard a PM from him was back in december, a week from x-mas saying he could get it together within a week so i can have it before xmas for presents and ...stuff
im defidently gonna try filing a report thanks for the info Malves :) 200 bucks is a good hunk of money to lose..
Craig
04-10-2005, 08:43 PM
Very sorry to see this.
I would think that he'd get motivated real fast when a police officer comes asking hard questions, even if nothing else has worked.
Fraud & or grand theft are not joking matters & I'd think he'd move fast to avoid a criminal record that will stain him & follow him for the rest of his life.
Not to mention that many collages will expell any student found to be in that much trouble with the law, they don't want problems like that around.
gkiing
04-10-2005, 09:07 PM
i think XS should elect someone to contact hellfire's local police IN PERSON about this with a written statement of the hardware missing/stolen. It seems to me he got greedy and f**ked everyone over.
trakslacker
04-10-2005, 10:00 PM
its being handled by those involved.
WesM63
04-11-2005, 08:49 PM
I know you all don't need my input but here's my .02 anywase. Since i've been away for a while.
Hell-Fire is a good guy, don't get me wrong what he's doing or has done is wrong. Something has to have of come up. The last time I talked to him about modding my booster he replied promptly. What most people don't understand is when he started doing this is was free, all you had to pay for was parts. He go overwhelmed then started charging. He really was an assist to this community. I'm sorry it had to come down to this.
Badong
05-29-2005, 07:13 AM
Being reading this and the other (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=58606) thread for some time now.
Thats a sad thing going on here. I'm disapointed and shocked with what Hell Fire did. Good luck to remaining victims!