Another failure :(

[c7775]

Just got two more sticks of PC3200 DDR from Twinmos assuming it would at least be good this time ... yes its a twinmos PCB but the memory chips are bull****

Anyone ever seen Twinmos memory with this written on the chips ? IF so how far does it OC??

Twinmos 02444
TMD7608F8E50B
i am depressed

[scr0t]

Originally posted by Voodoo|Minion
Just got two more sticks of PC3200 DDR from Twinmos assuming it would at least be good this time ... yes its a twinmos PCB but the memory chips are bull****

Anyone ever seen Twinmos memory with this written on the chips ? IF so how far does it OC??

Twinmos 02444
TMD7608F8E50B
i am depressed


I've got twinmos 3200, I'll have a look when I get home from work.

for the record, mine clock crap aswell, but I'm not sure if thats the board or not.

What will it do?

[c7775]

so far not even 400 on SPD at 3V on my brand new KD7 ... very depressed :(

[RacerX]

Guys I have a couple of sticks of TwiMos PC3200 my chips reads as follows:

Winbond
2302D
W942508BH-5

I have no problem running these at cas2,1t at 212fsb on my KX7 and my board maxes out at 218 in which I can hit cas2, 2t.

Don't know what to tell ya. I bought mine here http://www.hardwaregods.net/twinmos.html The prices have gone up since I purchased them.:(

[scr0t]

You using the latest bios?

Mine will do 205, although thats at 2.85(2.8 actual)

[RacerX]

Also they kicked A$$ on my KD7, no problems at 210fsb at cas2, 1t but data corruption stops be from saving any bench.

Will be testing them on a BE7 later on today.

[c7775]

i see ... but the problem is that mine is not based on Winbond chips ... it only says Twinmos05 on the chips??? Why is that :mad:



/yep latest hacked beta bios with halt cpu enabled

[scr0t]

hmmm

have a twinmos dont make the chips them selves afaik, so check on the site, and see what that code represents.

I'm presuming the 05 means 5ns.

[RacerX]

Originally posted by Voodoo|Minion
i see ... but the problem is that mine is not based on Winbond chips ... it only says Twinmos05 on the chips??? Why is that :mad:



/yep latest hacked beta bios with halt cpu enabled

No idea. You might have the Samsung version on your modules. If so I know for a fact those are -5ns chips but they come with a lock SPD file which means SPD timings at 200fsb. Basically the same chips on Samsung PC3200 on TwinMos PCB. Not TwinMos's fault. Xtremeddr is do the same thing.

Return and get the Winbond chips.

[c7775]

tis weird mate ... absolutely nothing on their webbie concerning those chips... no one has ever heard of them.. just called their UK suppliers and was told theyve never seen them either...


Thing is i ordered from complett.co.uk and they messed up and send me some from their norway warehouse :mad:


btw - I'm discotheque from OcUK :)


Hello :) I am the long banned Voodoo Minion ... just for trying to get a quid of this stupid fan ... not fair :D

[c7775]

Originally posted by RacerX1
No idea. You might have the Samsung version on your modules. If so I know for a fact those are -5ns chips but they come with a lock SPD file which means SPD timings at 200fsb. Basically the same chips on Samsung PC3200 on TwinMos PCB. Not TwinMos's fault. Xtremeddr is do the same thing.

Return and get the Winbond chips.


so does this mean i cannot change timings and am stuck on SPD mate ? Otherwise are they meant to be PAP overclockers ?

[RacerX]

Originally posted by Voodoo|Minion
so does this mean i cannot change timings and am stuck on SPD mate ? Otherwise are they meant to be PAP overclockers ?

Yes thats correct. Only way to get more aggressive timings is to lower your FSB. I have some Xtremeddr based on Sammy TC4 chips which I think you guys have. Anything over 190 resulted in SPD timings but I could run 1t beyond 200.

Like I said return them.

[c7775]

just checked the data sheets and there is no indication of such modules on there !

Samsung DIMM classfication is done in the following manner

K 4 X X X X X X X X - X X X X X X X

And mine doesnt fit the pattern im affraid



if mine were Samsung chips datasheets indicate this should be the number

K4H560838C


puzzling :rolleyes:

[RacerX]

Originally posted by Voodoo|Minion
just checked the data sheets and there is no indication of such modules on there !

Samsung DIMM classfication is done in the following manner

K 4 X X X X X X X X - X X X X X X X

And mine doesnt fit the pattern im affraid

Ok then but you still don't have the better Winbond chips.

I say Samsung cause a few weeks ago someone mentioned on this site that TwinMos uses both Samsung and Winbond on their PC3200 which I didn't know about the Sammy.

[c7775]

here is a piccie of the sammie modules ... not the same ....


I need to phone Twinmos Singapore now so i can find out what are they doing :D


http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=ddr400l_3.jpg

[scr0t]

just had a look on their website, and they have a picture of winbond chips on there ram, not that it means anything I suppose.

Is it single or doouble sided?

[c7775]

Originally posted by scr0t
just had a look on their website, and they have a picture of winbond chips on there ram, not that it means anything I suppose.

Is it single or doouble sided?
SINGLE SIDED MATE ...

[scr0t]

Just did a google of TMD7608F8E50B , and got loads of results.

Most of them however tend to realte to a mobo compatability table.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/mainboards/msi-kt4-ultra/

There's one here that lists it as just twinmos, rather thant twinmos/winbond.

[c7775]

well at least there is a mention of it somewhere ;) Now
i need to find out who made those chipies so i can break
the stick in two on their head :slobber:

[scr0t]

If its not reaching DDR400, then you can rightfully send it back :)

I'm pretty sure that addonsonline.co.uk have winbond chips.

[c7775]

Originally posted by scr0t
If its not reaching DDR400, then you can rightfully send it back :)

I'm pretty sure that addonsonline.co.uk have winbond chips.


i think i might have to do that ...

I got my other stick from them and it was winbond on 3rd which strangely enough wouldnt even run at 266 cas2... Not much luck these days

[scr0t]

what about microdirect then? :p

I'm sure a few places in the UK will have the winbond chips :D

[c7775]

i am tired mate... after 3 dud sticks ill just go for Corsair or something ... at least they WILL have winbonds :banana:

[DuraN]

I ordered mine from komplett.no, and got Winbond chips. Its about one month ago though.

[caspergt]

i don`t get a §§§§ of this, i run 210 FSB with my twinmos pc2700 cas 2 2-5-2-t1-4way-8qw so that a bit strange that your wont even clock 200 there must be something wrong

[c7775]

>DuraN

mine also came from Norway !
<December 03, 2002 08:05 Oslo - Norway Shipment picked up
December 03, 2002 12:25 Oslo - Norway Departing origin
December 04, 2002 02:16 East Midlands - UK Transferred through East Midlands - UK
December 04, 2002 03:09 Birmingham - UK Arrived at DHL facility
December 04, 2002 08:07 Birmingham - UK With delivery courier
December 04, 2002 11:00 Oslo - Norway Departed from DHL facility in Oslo - Norway
December 04, 2002 12:00 Birmingham - UK Shipment delivered >


caspergt
something might be wrong and will investigate for a week, i have just RMAed my Gfx so wont be able to test for the next weel or so

[PiLsY]

VM,

I also have Twinmos chips on a twinmos PCB and have been VERY impressed with them. They are winbond chips, just re-branded with the twinmos logo.

I can get 243mhz @ 2/6/2/2 out of mine on an IT7 Max2 v2.0 using only 2.76vdimm.

Cant get you codes cos ive put an akasa copper spreader on and I cant get the damn thing off :p. The stick itself is about 3 - 4 months old though, so its not a new shipment.

Burn in helps lots with this ram m8, dont dismiss it so quickly.

Manually set your timings to 2/5/2/2 1T 4 bank interleave and 8 level burst length. Set your vdimm to 2.5v and your FSB to 166mhz. Find your max stable speed at the above settings. Knock it up 1fsb form that and take your vdimm to 2.7v. Run something like seti or folding for a good 24 to 48 hours solid. Then go back into bios, drop back to 2.5v and raise your fsb again until it gets unstable. This should gain you an easy 15mhz over the course of 2 weeks or so. Tras doesnt become an issue until 215mhz or so on this particular stick, but if I were you id run it at 7 anyway unless youre benching or burning in.

Let me know how it goes.

PiLsY.

[Galifrey]

VM you have worse luck than me mate...

Can deffo vouch for burn in!!! my sammy and corsair gets better by the day!

[DJ_Datte]

Ok guys, if you werent aware, all Komplett shippings (they have web pages for atleast 6 european countries) come from Norway, so dont be surprised and say something like "umm, they sent it from their Norway" :)

/Damir