Asus P5P800 (i865PE) V's Dfi Lanparty 875-pt

[Mesce]

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Prod...roductID=135086

or

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Prod...roductID=139772

Im going to be running a 650 P4 in the motherboard and it will be watercooled.

I am undecided between these two. The dfi has some problems with 6xx series processors and sometimes you cant even flash to the latest bios unless you have a 5xx series to do so.

As far as I know the Asus supports 6xx series out of the box but I am not to sure on this. Price/performance is what I want but the 875 is a better chipset than the 865 but they both have pro's and cons.

Which would any of you suggest me to get?

Thanks in advance for your input ;)

[fordf250]

I dont know if the asus board will take the 6xx without bios flash but I had an Abit AS8 with the 865pe and it would give higher benghmark numbers and overclock higher than the 875p-t.

What they dont say in reviews is the 865pe will start to corrupt your graphics at anything over 260fsb when the cpu is working hard.

The 875p-t is hard to get over 277fsb but is rock solid up to that speed.

[DEVIL_DK]

if you whant speed and good oc the Dfi is the way to go.

if you just whant a ok fast pc and fore les mony the asus

[Mesce]

I want the best I can get ddr1/agp lga775.

The abit looks good but so does the the asus. The dfi has way to many problems and so I have ruled it out almost altogether.

[fordf250]

What problems does the DFI have?

[Mesce]

At dfi-street there are numerous problems with this motherboard and chipset.

here are a few threads that got me worried about buying one.

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7847

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7847

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8387

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7809

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8088


These are just a handful of the threads created on the first page of the dfi forum for all intel motherboards.

[fordf250]

Ah well 5 problems in two months with a new board some with bios updates and some with hardware. I dont think its that bad.Look at Sententials reviews of the 640 and the AS8 at overclockers forums before you decide

[Mesce]

okay I will. Asus seems the only good one at the moment?

[Kunaak]

I have the AS8, and heres my little review of it.

the bios features are top knotch=the best.
the boards ability to boot, under even the most insane conditions is incredibly impressive. I've had this board boot up under 98% of the conditions I put it through.
once in windows, the "Uguru" feature is both great, and annoying.
it's great cause it's works exactly as it should and gives you tons of options, all are very handy.
whats annoying about uguru is that Clockgen doesn't work, CPUZ can't read the Vcore voltages. you can't monitor the voltages in windows with anything other then Uguru...
if you like Uguru, its great, if you want to try Clockgen, or Speedfan or such, forget it, they are useless on this board and do nothing.

heres the bad.

this board has absolute worst Droop I ever seen. set it to 1.4 volts in bios, and it's 1.34 volts when you get into windows, then you run super pi, and watch the voltage drop to 1.3 volts...
it's incredibly bad at stock.

the 4:5 feature is completly useless.
if you use this to get more bandwidth, forget it, it does nothing.
I confirmed this with Sisoft sandra, Lobby tests in 3dmark... and then with fuggers idea, I tried Memtest 86 when booting up to check the bandwidth, and to my suprise, bandwidth is lower when using the 4:5 ratio at 200=250 on the ram, then when using 1:1 at 200 on the ram.
so the 4:5 feature is completly useless.

if you wannt a great board, I suggest getting the AS8, then do atleast a Vdroop mod to it.
if nothing else, atleast do the Vdroop mod to it.
that single mod alone, made this board 100 times more stable for me, then I really started liking it.

[Mesce]

hmm, I think I will go with the asus. The asus seems to be the only mobo at stock which overclocks very well without much of a droop. The as8 I am leaning on but it has so many problems its untrue especially with the 6 series after reading the review on ocforums.

Asus p5p800 it shall be then. Thanks all for your input and knowledge in helping me make my decision

[Mcklain]

I would get DFI for sure.

Mcklain

[Sentential]

hmm, I think I will go with the asus. The asus seems to be the only mobo at stock which overclocks very well without much of a droop. The as8 I am leaning on but it has so many problems its untrue especially with the 6 series after reading the review on ocforums.

Asus p5p800 it shall be then. Thanks all for your input and knowledge in helping me make my decision
Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that any Intel board is gonna droop. Its a question of how bad.

[Mesce]

I decided to hell with it. I'll wait for the 955 chipsets by one of them with a cheap pcie gfx until the next generation come out. Why not have the best intel board available.

[meke]

I first start with p5p800 5 months ago

vdrop mod is required, also vagp is required for 300+ fsb.

x14 is very stable and this board works fine with booster, but i recommend vo=vdimm mod for great 3.8v+ vdimm (it's stable than booster) if you have variable rails in psu (like ocz) :rolleyes:

after some time, whyever i fell in the idea that dfi and 875 will get better results.

then i switch to dfi 875p-t.

vdrop mod is not required, because this board has the most stable vcore I have ever see.

x14 is not very stable and this board doesn't work with booster, sometimes it doesn't even boot because has a very fragile overvolt protection.

The bios has gone away when i try to boot 14x300 and i am still waiting for rma. :nono:

The last words;

any bench does not bring any satisfactory results more than my p5p800, at least 100$ more is not required for this mobo. :slapass:

PS. DFI stops producing 875p-t, FYI

[afireinside]

Is the 3.3V=Vdimm and Vdroop mod on the P5P800 hard? I might get one of those instead of the AS8...