NEWS: BIOS Tool Collection BNOBTC version 5

[Borg Number One]

Dear User.

On March 16th 2005 and after a long testing phase the BNOBTC (BIOS Tool Collection) v5 has been released.
It contains tools and utilities to modify your:
AMI, Award, Phoenix, Phoenix-Award and MR-BIOS.
Modifications such as:

-add/remove/change BIOS-Logos
-update SATA/RAID-BIOSes on OnBoard Network controllers
-hide/unhide/rename BIOS-Menues
-change BIOS/Mainboard strings
etc...

can be done.



The BNOBTC also contains tools which are able to display/remove
the currently used BIOS-password.

and many more...


Some of many highlights are:

SurfLabs (NexusDevelopments/ LinkItProductions)
Advanced BIOS-Logo Reader ABR G2

American Megatrends Inc. ( AMI )
Flash Programming Utility For Windows Ver. 3.0.0.3
Flash EPROM Programming Utility Ver. 8.27.45
AMIMM for Windows Ver. 1.0.0.1
MMTOOL for Windows Ver. 2.22.1 BETA
AMIBCP for Windows ("AMIBCP 8") Ver. 2.25 BETA
AMIBIOS Motherboard Manufacturer Identification Ver. 1.4 (2004)

Award Software International / ("Phoenix-Award")
AWARD's BMP2EPA ver. 1.2
Award WinFlash Ver. 1.76
AwardFlash Ver. 8.54b
(and many more releases)
BIOSView Ver. 2.01.00 (BIOS update file-Simulator)
CBROM32 Ver. 1.40
CBROM Ver. 2.20

Peter Weigel
Peters CmosInfo v.3.1.5.60
Peters BiosPaßwort v.3.2.8.83

Phoenix technologies:
Phoenix BIOS Editor
Ver. 2.0.18.0
Ver. "Release 2 build 7"

[...].


Get more information about the BNOBTC and how to support it
here: http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/en

[Rave]

Do you know if I can alter the command rate from 1T to 2T in my 8RGA+ bios? Anyway, this looks interesting, I'm definately going to download it and have a play even if I don't end up doing any actual bios modding. Cheers!:toast:

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

May you able to tell me more details about your board?
Is it the "EPoX 8RGA+" ?

[andlcs]

Is it possible to add CAS2.0 timing option to Albatron's KX18DS Pro motherboard BIOS? (only CAS2.5 and CAS3.0 are available in stock bios files).

BIOS AWARD
Motherboard LINK (http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/it/mb/specification.asp?pro_id=135)

Thank You.

[Kunaak]

man, I cannot seem to open anything with this bios collection.

I tried Asus, DFI, Soltek and a few other companies...
all these programs seem to open are rom files, and I can't find a single Bios thats a rom file. only videocards are rom files these days it seems... but these programs aren't meant for those...

so I just can't seem to find anything to mod with these programs.

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

@andlcs
The BIOS files are protected anyhow.

I tried all versions of ModBin(6)...:

ModBin6 2.00.00
ModBin6 2.00.00 beta
ModBin6 1.00.48
ModBin6 1.00.38
ModBin6 1.00.37
ModBin6 1.00.12
ModBin6 1.00.03

ModBin 4.50.88
ModBin 4.50.82a
ModBin 4.50.80c
ModBin 4.50.77
ModBin 4.50.76
ModBin 4.50.75
ModBin 4.50.66
ModBin 4.50.64
ModBin 4.50.63
ModBin 4.50.60
ModBin 4.50.58
ModBin 4.50.36

...but everytime I get "!! BIOS version not 6.0 !!" or "Stack overflow" .
I never have seen such a "protected" Award BIOS before.
So it is currently not possible to edit the BIOS Setup Menue of the Albatron KX18DS Pro BIOS.

PS:
Albatron's FTP server hosts full featured versions of different programs. :)
ftp://211.78.163.2/faq/it/doc/burn

@Kunaak

Which BIOS do you want to modify?

[Kunaak]

Hi.



@Kunaak

Which BIOS do you want to modify?

All.

but I would settle for modding my AS8 bios for now.
so far, I have never been able to open a LGA775 bios with any tool.

[Borg Number One]

Hi.


You told about there would be nothing in the BNOBTC to modify your BIOS files? :)


For example CBROM32 is able to modify the modules inside the Abit AS8 BIOS file
CBROM32 V1.44 [07/19/04 Release] (C)Phoenix Technologies 2001-2004

******** as8_17.bin BIOS component ********

No. Item-Name Original-Size Compressed-Size Original-File-Name
================================================== ==============================
0. System BIOS 20000h(128.00K) 137C3h(77.94K) AS8_17.B00
1. XGROUP CODE 0FF20h(63.78K) 0B1D2h(44.46K) awardext.rom
2. ACPI table 03D49h(15.32K) 01794h(5.89K) ACPITBL.BIN
3. YGROUP ROM 0FD20h(63.28K) 04556h(17.33K) awardeyt.rom
4. GROUP ROM[ 0] 06620h(25.53K) 02BDBh(10.96K) _EN_CODE.BIN
5. PCI ROM[ A ] 06BC7h(26.94K) 04AFCh(18.75K) A.BIN
6. GV3 018FDh(6.25K) 00AECh(2.73K) PPMINIT.ROM
7. PCI ROM[ B ] 0D000h(52.00K) 07C3Ch(31.06K) RTSROM_M.LOM
8. PCI ROM[ C ] 0A000h(40.00K) 05CF6h(23.24K) RTGBPXE.LOM
9. PCI ROM[ D ] 0D600h(53.50K) 080F4h(32.24K) RAID_OR_3003.BIN
10. OSB LOGO ROM 4B30Ch(300.76K) 0647Dh(25.12K) AS8_ABIT.BMP
11. OSB BMP ROM 03476h(13.12K) 00A36h(2.55K) AS8_C.BMP
12. OSB BMP1 ROM 0345Dh(13.09K) 00AFAh(2.74K) AS8_P4.BMP
13. OSB BMP2 ROM 0345Dh(13.09K) 00B02h(2.75K) AS8_P4HT.BMP
14. OSB BMP3 ROM 0418Ch(16.39K) 00BC8h(2.95K) AS8_P4E.BMP
15. OSB BMP4 ROM 0418Ch(16.39K) 00CA1h(3.16K) AS8_P4HE.BMP
16. OSB BMP5 ROM 0345Dh(13.09K) 009CEh(2.45K) AS8_CD.BMP
(SP) NCPUCODE 0C400h(49.00K) 0C400h(49.00K) NCPUCODE.BIN

Total compress code space = 5B000h(364.00K)
Total compressed code size = 58D4Eh(355.33K)
Remain compress code space = 022B2h(8.67K)

** Micro Code Information **
Update ID CPUID | Update ID CPUID | Update ID CPUID | Update ID CPUID
------------------+--------------------+--------------------+-------------------
PGA478 2E 0F29 | PGA423 2C 0F25 | SLOT1 04 0F43 | SLOT1 0D 0F41
SLOT1 12 0F41 | SLOT1 02 0F37 | SLOT1 14 0F34 | SLOT1 0E 0F34
SLOT1 08 0F34 | SLOT1 0B 0F33 | SLOT1 0A 0F32 | SLOT1 0B 0F31
SLOT1 05 0F31 | PGA478 12 0F30 |



For example following BIOS logos could be extract:

http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/abit-as8_abit.png

http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/intel-as8_c.png http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/intel-as8_cd.png http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/intel-as8_p4.png

http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/intel-as8_p4e.png http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/intel-as8_p4he.png http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/intel-as8_p4ht.png

The logos can also be replaced or removed, if you wish so.

( BIOS logo to PNG conversion and highest possible lossless PNG optimization & file size reduction by:
Borg Number One - borg_no [dot] one -at- gmx [dot] net
Thanks go to GIMP, PNGCRUSH and PNGOUT )


Changing/modifying the BIOS setup menue with the different versions of:
ModBin(6) is currently not possible,
because they bring error messages like: "Stack overflow!".

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

Now I am able to modify the BIOS Setup Menue and to unhide new features/options in both BIOS files: :)

- Abit AS8
- Albatron KX18DS Pro


If you were still interested in BIOS modification at all then let me know.

[][nSaNe]

where should i start looking to get the new dfi 250GB nf3 beta bios 4.0vdimm unlocked. the bios is the 4/15/05 and which of your tools will even let me dump or look at anypart of the bios?

[Borg Number One]

Hi.


To modify "Award BIOS"/"Phoeanix-AwardBIOS" files,
you need:

ModBin(6) for BIOS Setup Menue modification and
CBROM/CBROM32 for BIOS module modification.

Common/often changed, replaced, removed & updated BIOS modules are:
BIOS logos
RAID BIOS
VGA BIOS (on Board graphics cards)
Network BOOT ROM



The DFI LANPARTY UT nF3 250Gb mainboard has a nice BIOS logo :) :D

http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/dfi-lanparty-ut.nf3-250gb.png
(BIOS logo to PNG conversion and highest possible lossless PNG optimization & file size reduction by:
Borg Number One - borg_no [dot] one -at- gmx [dot] net
Thanks go to GIMP, PNGCRUSH and PNGOUT)

[andlcs]

What did you do to modify Albatron's bios?

Thank You.

[][nSaNe]

yea... that bitmap looks nice.. i got that out of the bios but is there anything where i can edit actual vdimm values.. in any of those... because nothing in those tools has seemed to be very productive for me...

[][nSaNe]

yea and btw modbin6 doesnt seem to work with the dfi bios.. any idea?

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

][nSaNe, andlcs,

to modify the menues in the BIOS setup you just need a totally new and unofficial release of ModBin.

That is it. :)


Send me your eMail addresses via PM then you will get the release.

[][nSaNe]

borg.. .thanks buddy... ygpm

[][nSaNe]

wow for a day or two.. i was like great... a whole lot of useless junk..
but im sorry man... i must say that with your help, everything is working great.. YOU are the MAN!! btw.... u should also think about releasing that version of modbin... as it will prolly help alot of people.
thanks a bunch Borg.

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

In the next days I will publish a new release of the BNOBTC. :)

Well, in the DFI LANPARTY Mainboards there already should all menues visible.

I like the BIOS menu when I opened the BIOS file with ModBin.


Well, I am also able to simulate Award / Phoenix-AwardBIOS files and their BIOS Setup Menues. :)

Check this:
http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/borgbios/biosview

[][nSaNe]

ya man your like totally helping me out alot here... thanks again..
now.. i have dumped that lplogo.bmp and have modified it...
but.. the file is 900kb... is there a tool in your collection to convert it to proper specs? and what version of cbrom should i be using to re-add the logo once ive got it modified?

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

here are some undocumented facts:

CBROM Ver. 2.19 and above extract and convert the logo module(s) to "normal" bitmap file(s).
CBROM versions lower than 2.19 just extract the AWBM/EPA logo module(s).

CBROM32 adds a kind of a protection to the extracted and converted BIOS logo.
-->The images has "stupid/weird/noisy lines" in it.
-->because of copy rights and stuff[...]

A further good method is using ABR G2 - Advanced BIOS logo reader
This program is able to view and convert many different Award, AMI, Phoenix,...-BIOS logo formats.

So, if you want to have an extracted, but unmodifed BIOS logo than take CBROM 2.19 and/or above (except the CBROM32 releses).
"cbrom <biosfile> /logo extract"
Or take an earlier version (e.g. CBROM 2.15) and convert the extracted logo with the help of ABR G2.


To modify the "new" BIOS files, espacially DFI LANPARTY BIOS files, I would prefer CBROM32.
-->While adding BIOS logos with the help of CBROM32 they will not be changed with stupid lines.
This just happens while extracting them-->Copyright reasons...


Why did you mention that the BIOS logo would be 900KB huge?
It size is just 300/301KB.

[][nSaNe]

sorry i got the img dump from awdmod or something like that.. and it converts it to windows bmp... hmm it was that file that was 900kb..
also.. it seems that with the unlocked vdimm selections... they dont actually change the voltages correctly.. i get 3.2v in menu = 2.5 3.3 in menu = 2.6
and 3.4 in menu = 2.7... and so on and so on.. and 4.0v = 3.2v
i dont understand.. i guess there must be more to just unhiding the menu options or something.,

[Borg Number One]

Hi.
yes... some BIOSes are not programmed in normal way.
Well, I already did some research about this problem and other ModBin related problems, but without success.

[][nSaNe]

hmm so i guess i cant get this bios modded anyways... that sucks
i unhid the options... like it said 3.2v Not selectable.. and so on all the way up to 4.0v... i changed the value to selectable... and flashed.. and nope it didnt work.. 4.0v selected gives 3.2v which is actually higher than the 3.1 of the original bios. but still no go.. i borked my bios after i tried the secon attempt.. got to goto a buddys to hotflash and then i guess ill research some other method to get the bios modded... or ill just mod the board.
i dunno but still man thanks for the effort your putting forth

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

Yeah... any kind of (unintentional) protection is used in the BIOS Setup Menue.

Well, exchanging the logo should be possible without any problems. :)


It was/is no problem for me to help in BIOS modification and stuff.

It would be nice if you could spread/broadcast the news about the BNOBTC and/or my free
BIOS modification service & help in other forums too. :)


Well, did you already visit this page:

http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo :) ?

[mud]

Thank you for this excellent collection! Now I've got nice custom logos and boot up screens.

I am curious to know though, when will version 6 be coming out? I await the new version of modbin.

Also, for those of us stuck on 56k, it would be nice to have a "lite" version or something with only the newest versions of the tools.

Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to make this!

[Poy]

Hello, I have to use the software to name AMIBCP for editer a AMI
bios for the motherboard Asus k8n-e, but the problem is that it is
impossible to safeguard the bios. Have a solution? thx

[shadowing]

I am curious about what is the point of this collection. Is it able to add certain options in most bios and work, or does it serve another purpose?

I would also like to ask and inquire if it can modify laptops bios.

[EmoAddict15]

The RAR doesn't work on your site. Also I want to mod the AS8, I've never really done this before but I ran modbin 6 (found that on the net myself) and it made 4 different files and the program exited?

[Borg Number One]

Hi.


The BIOS Tool Collection is currently being updated to BNOBTC version 6. : D

There will be many new utils and interesting documents in the BNOBTC v6!!! :D

[ReelMonza]

What's new ?

[Borg Number One]

Just wait and see! :D

[ReelMonza]

OK, check your PM.

[busta`]

Hey Borg, I can't seem to get AMIBCP working with an ASUS P5AD2-E Premium BIOS. Is there something I'm doing wrong? I've tried the latest BIOS from their site and I've even dumped my own.

Thanks

*EDIT*

Nevermind, I got it working with MMTool :toast:

[caater]

one weird question - how it is possible to extract/edit/and so on ncpucode.bin ?
i'm unable to extract it with cbrom32..

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

You have to use a Hex Editor if you want to extract, edit and reinsert the
ncpucode.bin module.

look for ncpucode in the bios file.
The amount of selected bytes (the size) is/was already displayed by CBROM.

[caater]

Hi.

You have to use a Hex Editor if you want to extract, edit and reinsert the
ncpucode.bin module.

look for ncpucode in the bios file.
The amount of selected bytes (the size) is/was already displayed by CBROM.

thanks, that's what i was afraid of..
it seems to be harder than it is.. at least harder than tampering with cpucode.bin :)
it seems it has to be done completely in hex-editor, as ctmc discarded the file i extracted..
or then again - i don't know exactly what to extract :p

[ReelMonza]

Borg, any updates on v6 ?

[WiCKeD]

Hi.

][nSaNe, andlcs,

to modify the menues in the BIOS setup you just need a totally new and unofficial release of ModBin.

That is it. :)


Send me your eMail addresses via PM then you will get the release.
Hi Borg, what modbin is this? This would not happen to be the "modbin-lovelust" bios, would it :) ...which has TOTALLY DISAPPEARED FROM THE INTERNET! I remember that being the only modbin utility that was able to unlock any features with the Albatron KX18D Pro bios. It is strange to see that there have not been any new Award bios editors in years...

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

WiCKeD, you have got eMail with the new MODBIN6 release.

[WiCKeD]

Woot! Thanks Borg. You just made some Jetway Radeon Xpress owners real happy! :D No more 4x LDT floor! :rocker:

[Ultra Nexus]

Hello Borg

I was wondering if I can apply this applications to mod a Shuttle FN25 (SN25P) motherboard... this is with a Phoenix-Award 4Mbit BIOS to unlock more memory settings and such on it.

Do you think its possible?

Thanks a lot! And great work of yours!!! :clap:

[Borg Number One]

Hi.


The current latest BIOS file for the Shuttle FN25 (SN25P):
ftp://ftp.shuttle.com/BIOS/sn25p/fn25s01o.bin
can be opened and modified with
MODBIN6 2.01.01 (06/25) without any problems.

[Ultra Nexus]

Hi.


The current latest BIOS file for the Shuttle FN25 (SN25P):
ftp://ftp.shuttle.com/BIOS/sn25p/fn25s01o.bin
can be opened and modified with
MODBIN6 2.01.01 (06/25) without any problems.


Thats good news! :woot:

BTW, is that version of MODBIN6 within your Collecton tools? If its not can you please send it to me by email? Thank you! :clap:

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

The latest and "new" MODBIN release is not in the BNOBTC v5.

If you would like to have it, just send me your eMail adress (via eMail* / via PM)




*=I think, it should not be difficult to figure out my eMail adress. :)

[ReelMonza]

Borg, btw MODBIN6 2.01.01 (6/25) couldnt open Asus A8V-E BIOS...

I'm getting that "stack overflow" thing...

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

You are right.
There is a "Stack overflow" message while opening the BIOS file.

It seems to be there is a still newer release of MODBIN release necessary.
Even newer than MODBIN6 2.01.01 (6/25).


Because of Asus's eMail - support is not really good,
we need a BIOS file from another firm.

A "non-Asus"-BIOS file is necessary,
which has the same symptoms while open it in/with MODBIN6 2.01.01 (6/25).

If you can find such a BIOS file, then please let me know it.

[ReelMonza]

OK, I'll look around but I'd really like to open A8V-E...

[Leni]

thanks, that's what i was afraid of..
it seems to be harder than it is.. at least harder than tampering with cpucode.bin :)
it seems it has to be done completely in hex-editor, as ctmc discarded the file i extracted..
or then again - i don't know exactly what to extract :p


hello,
I with hexeditor CPU codes into the max3 bios inserted (updatet 0F41h ID0D and ID12, 0F43 ID04, 0F44H ID04)
http://www.directupload.net/images/050717/temp/hVe6QSeh.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/396/hVe6QSeh.jpg)which me cbrom also correctly indicate. But I kan it do not up-play. This file is not a correct Bios file! :mad:

[Borg Number One]

Hi Leni.

I do not understand anything.
It looks like you used an online translator.
Explain your problem and what you did in German.

[ReelMonza]

If you can find such a BIOS file, then please let me know it.Borg, same happens with Gigabyte K8NS-939 Ultra F7 BIOS (http://global.giga-byte.com/Download/Download.asp?FileExtName=exe&DownloadPath=/MotherBoard/FileList/BIOS/bios_k8nsu939_f7), stack overflow message.

[Leni]

Hi Leni.

I do not understand anything.
It looks like you used an online translator.
Explain your problem and what you did in German.
:D Ja ich benutze einen online übersetzer........ :slapass:

Ich habe versucht mit einem Hex-editor ein paar Microcodes in mein IC7 Max3 bios einzufügen.
Ich habe jeweils den Abschnitt mit dem einzelnen cpucode 0f41 ID 0D und ID 12, 0f43 und 0f44 mit einer größe von jeweils 2048Byte aus diesem Bios klick (http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/75TLD325.zip) kopiert und in mein IC7-Max3 bios klick (ftp://ftp.abitshop.com/pub/bios/ic7-max3//ic7p18.exe) eingefügt, also ältere durch neuere ersetzt.
wenn ich mir mit CBROM das ergebnis anschaue werden die neuen CPUcodes angezeigt und die gesamte größe der Bios.Bin(524.288 Bytes) und die größe der NCPUCODE.BIN stimmen auch 100%
http://www.directupload.net/images/050717/temp/hVe6QSeh.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/396/hVe6QSeh.jpg)
Nur leider sagt mir mein Flashprogramm: This file is not a correct Bios file!

Die Codes habe ich via kopieren und einfügen im Hexeditor(UltraEdit-32-) in das Max3 bios eingefügt und abgespeichert, ich habe leider recht wenig ahnung davon, da ist sicher mehr erforderlich......
Wäre nett wenn du mir ein wenig helfen könntest, danke
Leni

[Borg Number One]

Leni,

all I wrote about modifying the "(SP) NCPUCODE" module is just theoretical stuff.
All my mainboards, which I have use an AMD processor, so I never did a
"(SP) NCPUCODE" module modification.

Furthermore, CPU microcodes / CPU micro code updates do not need to have a size of 2KB.
They also can be 3KB, 5KB or 7KB.
You just need to check the first bytes of the first CPU code,
then you will find the others.

However, there are two ore more positions with checksums inside the BIOS file.
They have to also be fixed/corrected after the BIOS modification.

Try to use the BIOS Information Tool(Twinssoft, StarGaz0r)

http://www.stargaz0r.nm.ru/files/bit14.zip
to check the different checksums inside the BIOS file
before and after the modification.

:D Yes, I used an online translator :slapass:

With a hex editor I tried to insert some microcodes in my IC7 Max3 (Abit)

I copied the the 2KByte cpu code parts...:
+ 0f41 ID 0D
+ 0f41 ID 12
+ 0f43
+ 0f44

...from this BIOS file (http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/75TLD325.zip)
into my IC7-Max3 bios (ftp://ftp.abitshop.com/pub/bios/ic7-max3//ic7p18.exe)

After the modification, CBROM displays the new added/replaced CPU codes without problems.
The size of the listed "NCPUCODE.BIN" & the size of the BIOS.bin file(524.288 Bytes)
are accurate.

http://www.directupload.net/images/050717/temp/hVe6QSeh.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/396/hVe6QSeh.jpg)
However, the FLASH program brings an error message:
This file is not a correct Bios file!

I used "UltraEdit-32" to copy the cpu codes from one BIOS file to the bios file for/of my mainboard.

I do not have really much skills and knowledges about this kind of BIOS modification.
I think, there are more steps necessary.

So, it would be nice if you could help.

Leni

[krAsh]

HI i am new to bios modding bu have tried it on my MSI K8N Neo Platinum mobo.

Anyways I wanted to know if a DFI LanParty UT nF3 250GB Bios wud work on my mobo :slobber: (as both have same chipset)???

If yes then how to flash it???

[ReelMonza]

No you can't use different BIOS from different brands, doing so will damage your hardware.

[-(CH)-]

Hi!
First of all I would like to say im very impressed by these programms! :slobber:
Ive been searching a while for a way to make a AGP/PCI divider, my Mobo is an Asrock K7S8XE+. It divides nicely with 6 till FSB 200mhz, but I would rather have a divider of 7/8 so I could go till FSB 233/265. Out of the Datasheet I could see that the IC supports this, but Asrock didnt want to use this feature, dont ask me why though!

here is the datasheet: http://pdf.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/103135/ICST/ICS952703.html

I know nothing about bios modding, but isnt it like programming a PIC? You can set ports high or low, and in that way you could tell the ICS 952703 to "activate" the 7/8 divider, right?

Greetz

[krAsh]

No you can't use different BIOS from different brands, doing so will damage your hardware.

Well then this means I can't run Vdimms higher than 2.85V (as my K8N Neo Platinum supports it as max) :(

There must be some way to include higher Vdimm in BIOS :mad: :confused:

[ReelMonza]

Well then this means I can't run Vdimms higher than 2.85V (as my K8N Neo Platinum supports it as max) :(

There must be some way to include higher Vdimm in BIOS :mad: :confused:
I think you'll have to hard mod it to supply more VDIMM.

[krAsh]

there's no guide 4 a hard mod for MSI K8N NEO PLATINUM , Socket 754 mobo.

[aldamon]

How hard would it be to use these tools to add Newark / mobile CPU support to the Epox 8KDA3J and 8KDA3+? Is it possible? modbin6 already allows me to unlock the hidden 1.8V VCORE option in the BIOS. The latest BIOS has already been updated to support Rev. E CPUs. I'd like to pick up a Newark 4000+ when they are released.

[Leni]

Borg Number One,
ich habs nun endlich geschafft und ein lauffähiges Bios mit neuen Cpucodes für mein MAX3 gebastelt.
Die lösung ist ganz simpel:
Das modifizierte Bios das die Fehlermedung "This file is not a correct Bios file" anzeigt mit Modbin6 2000 öffnen und wieder speichern, nun lässt sich das Bios auch flashen.
Modbin überprüft und korrigiert wohl die Prüfsummen innerhalb der Biosakte.
Aber es scheint noch ein kleines Problem dabei zu geben, in meinem Bios habe ich die codes 0F41H ID05 und 0F41H ID09 durch 0F41H ID0D und 0F41H ID12 ersetzt.
Meine CPU sollte den code 0F41H ID12 verwenden, sie läd mit dem modifizierten Bios aber den code 0F41H ID0D :confused:
Ich habe auch ein Bios nur mit den Codes 0F29H und 0F41H ID12 versucht aber die CPU lädt nicht den 0F41H ID12

Das BIOS Information Tool (bit14) kann leider die (SP) NCPUCODE auch nicht auslesen.

mfg Leni



Leni,

all I wrote about modifying the "(SP) NCPUCODE" module is just theoretical stuff.
All my mainboards, which I have use an AMD processor, so I never did a
"(SP) NCPUCODE" module modification.

Furthermore, CPU microcodes / CPU micro code updates do not need to have a size of 2KB.
They also can be 3KB, 5KB or 7KB.
You just need to check the first bytes of the first CPU code,
then you will find the others.

However, there are two ore more positions with checksums inside the BIOS file.
They have to also be fixed/corrected after the BIOS modification.

Try to use the BIOS Information Tool(Twinssoft, StarGaz0r)

http://www.stargaz0r.nm.ru/files/bit14.zip
to check the different checksums inside the BIOS file
before and after the modification.

[Kjaups]

can i mod my bios somehow by using these files. or can someone mod my bios (ASUS P4P800-X). I want to unhide chipset voltage and at least 3v for ram. Can i do that with these files???

[engine]

Hi.


The current latest BIOS file for the Shuttle FN25 (SN25P):
ftp://ftp.shuttle.com/BIOS/sn25p/fn25s01o.bin
can be opened and modified with
MODBIN6 2.01.01 (06/25) without any problems.

Is there anyone who can send me MODBIN6 2.01.01 file, please?

Thanks!

[engine]

Anyone, please!

Thanks.

[engine]

Still no one!!!

The problem is that I can edit the "System BIOS" component with an hex editor, but I can´t add it to the main BIOS file. Or replace the existing one!

[Borg Number One]

Hi engine.


Do you still need the modbin release?

[engine]

Hi Borg Number One.

Thanks for your reply. I eventually found it on an Asian site. As I said before on this thread -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77122

Thanks anyway.:toast:

[SnipingWaste]

Borg number one, Can you look in to this BIOS and see if theres a HTT and multi setting hiden in it. Its for a Tul ax480a7-f ATI RX480/ULI setup. I emailed TUL about this and looks like they wont put the options on/unlock.
Here is the BIOS and its a AMI bios.
http://www.tul.com.tw/Global/bios.as...2=136&cat3=331

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

All options are already visible. There are no more options to unhide.

I just can replace the small AMI logo or the ATI fullscreen logo.

[SnipingWaste]

Hi.

All options are already visible. There are no more options to unhide.

I just can replace the small AMI logo or the ATI fullscreen logo.

That sucks.

Thanks for your time.

[nobre]

Hi Borg, I have no clue on modding mobo's bios, could you tell me if there are any hidden options in this bios from Evga nf3 board? ftp://evga.com/NF31_A42.bin
I'm specially looking for FSB Spread Spectrum option... I tried a few versions of Modbin but didn't understand how to perform changes in the menus... This bios also has a huge fullscreen logo that I wanted to remove

Thanks,
nobre

[ReelMonza]

There's nothing hidden actually, as per removing logo, it is quite easy to do, just download awdbedit.

By the way, this motherboard is actually Jetway N250DAG.

You can download BIOS A03 here:

http://www.jetway.com.tw/evisn/download/bios/index-4.htm

[nobre]

There's nothing hidden actually, as per removing logo, it is quite easy to do, just download awdbedit.

By the way, this motherboard is actually Jetway N250DAG.

You can download BIOS A03 here:

http://www.jetway.com.tw/evisn/download/bios/index-4.htm

thanks for the quick reply
are all mobos from evga built by them? i didn't know that o.O it was hella cheap and my former chaintech had to be rma'd so i gave it a try, actually like it, only thing that bothers me is that clockgen hangs on abrupt HTT speed changes, if i go 10 by 10mhz it will go stable up to 300, but if i try to raise it from 200 to 250 for instance, its instant crash... That's why I was looking for FSB spread spectrum, maybe that could be causing this

Is it safe to flash that file to test it on my evga?

[nobre]

ok i flashed it, didn't even need to clear cmos, it took my old settings as it were its own lol
and no freaky logo anymore =D

[Borg Number One]

Good morning.

Borg number one, Can you look in to this BIOS and see if

I see that every problem is already solved by ReelMonza.


That is fine, but "ReelMonza"="Borg Number One"?
I do not believe so. :)

[ReelMonza]

Borg, chill out man... ;)

[nobre]

Good morning.



I see that every problem is already solved by ReelMonza.


That is fine, but "ReelMonza"="Borg Number One"?
I do not believe so. :)

;p it was directed to you at first, but Reel was faster on this one
Thanks anyway for the links on your first post, I finally got a Modbin version that would read my bios menu's correctly

[[cTx]Philosophy]

Any luck with unlocking the vcore & vdimm lock on Asrock dual SATA II 939?
If so ill promote this app on every forum im a member of, and will do my best to spread the word about such a wonderful app :P with ownage support and updates as being shown here...

[ReelMonza]

Go ahead Borg...

[Borg Number One]

Hi.
Like almost all ASRock mainboards, this ASRock board and its BIOS cannot be modified anymore.
I just can add/remove/update BIOS Logo screens, network boot roms or (S)ATA BIOS ROMs on these boards.

[BigBadBogus]

Hi.

Now I am able to modify the BIOS Setup Menue and to unhide new features/options in both BIOS files: :)

- Abit AS8
- Albatron KX18DS Pro


If you were still interested in BIOS modification at all then let me know.


Hello,

I am searching for a solution to mod the albatron bios.:stick:

Could you please let me know how you did it finally.:banana:
I also get error messages while trying to load the orig.bios.bin:eek:

thx a lot

regards

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

Old MODBIN6 releases can not open new* Phoenix - AwardBIOS files even the mentioned/quoted mainboards and their BIOS files crash old MODBIN6 releases.

So, only new MODBIN6 releases (e.g. 2.01.01 (06/25)) are able to open such BIOS files.

However, the mentioned Albatron BIOS file does not have any further option to unhide except:

+ IDE Channel 3 Slave (including sub options)
+ CPU Thermal-Throttling
+ MAC Media Interface
+ ACPI function
+ CPU Warning Temperature
+ Shutdown Temperature


If you still interested in getting the latest available/known MODBIN6 release then just let me know.


To run modbin without problems in Windows 2000/XP/9x check these threads:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=45538
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=63210


*=MODBIN6 versions can open "Phoenix - AwardBIOS" files, but there seems to be "new" kind of "Phoenix - AwardBIOS" files.
Do not ask me, how "new" the mentioned BIOS files are/have to be
that they cannot be opened with old MODBIN6 releases anymore. :)

If you can figure out the characteristics of the new Phoenix - AwardBIOS files then let me know.

[BigBadBogus]

Hello,

thank you for the quick answer.

Where can I get MODBIN6 2.01.01
I tried to open it with the MODBIN6 2.00.00.......no chance

If there are no more possibilities to hide/unhide BIOS-options,
anyhow I'd like to trie to modifie the text and structure in BIOS-screen:banana:

thx

BTW bin auch deutsch:woot:

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

1.)
"BTW bin auch deutsch"

I know that you come from Germany, you also wrote a private message in German.

But your simple phrase (mentioned/quoted above) shows that your German skills/knowledges are not really good.

Mixing German words/phrases with English words/phrases is a signal for not really smart and intelligent persons. ;)

2.)
Reffering to your private message, I will send the latest MODBIN release to your eMail adress.

[balthazor]

Hi all,

I have a question!
I have an asus a7n8x-xe mobo it is a nice board but lack's the capability to change the vcore or multiplier. Now here's the question how can I unhide these options assuming they are there. I tried to make a backup. Bin file with aflash but with out any luck:( . The original asus bios files are .rom files.
Maybe I doing things wrong:eek: could somebody give me some advice so I can check if there are any hidden options which I can unhide?
What tool do I need to look "inside" the bios (asus) file. I tried Tmod's BiosMod v3.6 - Awdflash6 etc but witch out any result

Thanks

[ReelMonza]

Borg, do you have a working tool for present AMI BIOSes ?

[Borg Number One]

Yes. :)

[ReelMonza]

Wow, that was fast m8 ! ;)

I can't find it in your page, can you please send it to me ?

EDIT: I browsed some files here :

http://www.dstyles.de/bios/bnobtc-files/ami/amibcp-amimm/

[balthazor]

I downloaded amibcp and get this error Invalid row value.
Borg number one Is ther a guide somwhere how to use this tool? I know I am an noob:confused2

[Borg Number One]

Hi.


Just let me know, which BIOS file and what you want to modify.

[balthazor]

that's a lightning fast reply:D '

Its the asus 0204 file ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socka/nforce2/a7n8x-xe/0204.zip
I sure hope the vcore /vdimm options are hidden :) otherwise no oc for me :mad:

Thanks alot:)

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

Sorry, like in many other AMIBIOS8 files, in the current Asus A7N8X-XE BIOS file there are no further options/menus to unhide.


You just can use software/utilities to change voltage settings.

[balthazor]

Thanks for all the help m8

I will look for other options besides the bios

Quote "You just can use software/utilities to change voltage settings."

That's the problem if the bios does not have this option. Tools like clockgen or 8rdavcore-0.8.8-dev8 will not let you change anything because these settings are not available

I'll keep you posted

[ReelMonza]

Hi.

Sorry, like in many other AMIBIOS8 files, in the current Asus A7N8X-XE BIOS file there are no further options/menus to unhide.


You just can use software/utilities to change voltage settings.
So what tool can I use to extract modules from recent AMIBIOS8 files ?

[Borg Number One]

So what tool can I use to extract modules from recent AMIBIOS8 files ?

... a currently not really public American Megatrends utility.
:)

[chester]

Borg do u know of any bios flashing utilities that will hotflash a lanparty nforce 2 from an an35 ultra.Ive had success with hotflashing from same board.Sry a little off topic,but search led me here.

[ReelMonza]

Try Winflash 1.54 (it has to be this version) so you can hotswap inside XP (EEPROMs must be the same)

[chester]

meaning same mb by eprom or just same bios chip?hey i cany find 1.54.i googled nogo where is it.by the way thx for the reply.

[chester]

foud it tryed it nooooogo bro

[chester]

by the way ive hotflashed a few times . seeems since ive done that they have added protection for newbs or just want us to pay the extra 9 buks for the new chip.Ill e mail any1 9 bucks for instructing me how to diable flash protect.cheap aint i.hehe

[ReelMonza]

Yes, chips must be equal and you made sure it is actually version 1.54 ?

Borg provided this link :

http://www.dstyles.de/bios/bnobtc-files/award/flasher/winflash154.rar

EDIT: I just found out that your Shuttle board uses 2Mbit EEPROM while DFI uses 4Mbit, so they're different and you won't be able to hotflash.

[aicjofs]

How's the release of BNOBTC version 6 coming?

[SnipingWaste]

Is there a program that will let you test AMI BIOS and let you view it?

[pee4]

Hey Borg,

Do you have a tool for editing the Asus P5WD2 Premium bios?

When I try to open my bios file I get the following windows error:

AMI BIOS Configuration Utility has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.
AppName: amibcp.exe AppVer: 2.43.2.0 ModName: amibcp.exe
ModVer: 2.43.2.0 Offset: 00016967


I'd like to change the default boot order for the hard drive controllers (eg. drives on the inbuilt ITE8211 controller to boot before drives on the Primary IDE controller).

Thanks

John

[tdamocles]

Borg Number One,

I'm having problems saving the changes in this bios.. I'd like the ddr366 divider and the ddr300 divider (which has no menu name.) I can change to selectable but it will not save. Could you mod it? Bios is as follows: 9nda3+ (http://www.epox.nl/downloads/download.php?download_id=615&mode=zip)

[Riska]

Hi borg i cant figure out how to use this program?
Can you help me to unlock evrything in the shuttle sn25p barebone bios they have put up a new one and it have fixes for raid but they have locked the fsb to 250mhz and i know there is many other things aswell.
thanks.
fn25s027.zip is the new one.
ftp://ftp.shuttle.com/BIOS/sn25p/

[Riska]

And can u fix the problem whit the boot logo and x1800xt and x1900xt gfx cards other mobo manufactors have done it but not shuttle

[Riska]

Hallo come on guys.

[Riska]

I am dying here!!

[Riska]

Bump

[Borg Number One]

@all

Borg Number One is back. :)

[Borg Number One]

Hi SnipingWaste.

There are new AMI programs to test the BIOS Setup Menu in AMIBIOS8 BIOS files.
But the programs are not really public yet...

Well, AMIBCP for Windows 2.xx is able to simulate some early AMIBIOS8 files.
http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/borgbios/amibios-simulate-asus-m6n.gif

[Borg Number One]

Hi pee4
Because you also requested help via private message, I replied via private message.

[Borg Number One]

Hi tdamocles
Tell me what you exactly did.
And tell me the problems which appear.

[Borg Number One]

Hi Riska
Because there is also / already fn25s028.zip available, I would like to know, if I should check/modify the ...028 BIOS file or not.

PS:
Where is this picture from?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/image.php?u=3306&dateline=1140874596

[Riska]

Yes take the new bios
i dont know i found some were on the net... ss
Do you want it in full size?

[ReelMonza]

Hey Borg welcome back !

You really need to make public these new AMI tools it would help tons of people with crippled BIOS

When are you planning to release them ?

[Riska]

So we are back to it again wait wait waiting....

[Borg Number One]

Hi admin.

The automatic topic reply notification does not work anyhow correctly.
I just got a topic reply notification reffering to Riska's latest thread (03-25-2006 09:35).
But I did not get a notification when Riska's previous thread (3-20-2006 08:32 PM) was published.


Hi Riska.

Following menus/options can be unhide:

Standard CMOS Features
+ IDE Channel 1 Master
+ IDE Channel 0 Slave
+ Drive B
+ Swap Floppy Drive
+ OS Select For DRAM > 64MB

Advanced Chipset Features-->DRAM Configuration
+ User Config mode
+ Bottom of 32-bit[31:24] IO
+ Read Preamble value
+ Async Latency value
+ S/W memory hole Remapping
+ H/W memory hole Remapping

Advanced Chipset Features
+ SLI Broadcast Aperture

Integrated Peripherals-->Onboard IDE Device
+ OnChip IDE Channel1
+ Secondary Master PIO
+ Secondary Slave PIO
+ Secondary Master UDMA
+ Secondary Slave UDMA

Integrated Peripherals-->Onboard PCI Device
+ USB Keyboard Support

Integrated Peripherals
+ USB Mouse Support
+ AC97 Audio
+ MAC Media Interface
+ Machine MAC(NV) Address
+ MAC(NV) Address Input

PnP/PCI Configurations
+ Init Display First

PC Health Status
+ Shutdown Temperature

Frequency/Voltage Control
+ AGP Voltage Select
+ LDT Voltage Select


Well, there are no more option refferig to the CPU Frequency.

Just following settings are available/can be unhide:

200
201
201.5
202
202.5
203
203.5
204
204.5
205
205.5
206
206.5
207
207.5
208
208.5
209
209.5
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220
221
222
223
224
225
226
227
228
229
230
232
234
236
238
240
242
244
246
248
249
250

If you are interested in using ROMOS or ATASX then I also can add both new features in your BIOS.

ATASX is a possibility to protect/close your hard disk drives with a password and to prevent un-authorized password setting commands.

ROMOS is an emergency operating system.

Here you can read more about projects:
http://www.fitzenreiter.de/ata/ata_eng.htm
http://www.volny.cz/rayer/romos/romose.htm

[Riska]

Thanks great but i need the 300mhz fsb as in all the old bioses

[high5]

hi BNO!

could you check for me if there are any options to unhide in Abit NF8 BIOS:

http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/downloads.php?file=/downloads/bios/nf8/nf817.exe

thanks in advance.

[jonspd]

Can you take a look @ either bios 1.50 for asrock SataII or 04XX.bin.

LMK if there is a way to change mem divider's or maybe add vddim or other settings.

[wander_jarra]

Hi Guys,

When i try to edit the Asus A8V Deluxe rev 2.0 bios on the AMIBCP it says - invalid row value after i chose the file i want to edit.

And using the DOS program - it says Checksum error - even if i try to check the bios on the CD. So it looks like it´s a kind of bug.

Anyone knows if there is anything hide on the asus a8v bios that can be unhide and moded? - Like a new firmware for the Promisse controler or anything related to this ?

Thanks in advance !

[ReelMonza]

Hey Borg, I got "/Stack overflow!" while opening new DFI LANPARTY UT CFX3200-DR BIOS using MODBIN6 2.01.01, check it out.

[Borg Number One]

Hi high5!

1.)
Following menus can be unhide:

Advanced BIOS Features
+ CPU Internal Cache
+ External Cache
+ Typematic Rate Setting
+ Typematic Rate (Chars/Sec)
+ Typematic Delay (Msec)
+ Swap Floppy Drive
+ APIC Mode
+ Small Logo(EPA) Show

Integrated Peripherals --> OnChip IDE Device --> IDE Function Setup
+ Primary Master PIO
+ Primary Slave PIO
+ Primary Master UDMA
+ Primary Slave UDMA
+ Secondary Master PIO
+ Secondary Slave PIO
+ Secondary Master UDMA
+ Secondary Slave UDMA

Integrated Peripherals
+ - MAC Media Interface [ Pin Strap / MII / RGMII ]
+ IDE HDD Block Mode
+ Onboard Serial Port 2
+ UART Mode Select
+ RxD , TxD Active
+ IR Transmission Delay
+ UR2 Duplex Mode
+ Use IR Pins

Power Management Setup
+ ACPI function
+ Power Management
+ Video Off Method
+ HDD Power Down

PnP/PCI Configurations
+ Reset Configuration Data

PC Health Status
+ Current System Temp


2.)
If you are interested in using ROMOS or ATASX, then I also can add them to your BIOS.
ROMOS is an emergency Operating system with file manager and hard disk/floppy access.
ATASX makes it possible to manage password protected hard disks and to protect your hard disks with a password.
(Using: ATA Security Mode Feature Set)

Here you can get more details
ROMOS:
http://rayer.ic.cz/romos/romose.htm

ATASX:
http://www.fitzenreiter.de/ata/ata_eng.htm

3.)
If you would like to remove the small/ large BIOS logos:
http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/abit-nf8_logo.png

http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/awardbmp.png
...then let me know.

There is also no problem to use your favorite photo/logo as your own BIOS boot splash screen.

[Borg Number One]

Hi jonspd!
There are no more settings to unhide.
But doing following is recommend:

The more users write mails with wanted BIOS features to ASRock the better are the possibilities that ASRock will publish BIOS updates with more options/menus.

[Borg Number One]

Hi wander_jarra,

Referring to Asus A8V Deluxe mainboard:
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?model=A8V Deluxe&SLanguage=de-de

...and reffering to the BIOS 1018.001:
http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket939/a8v-deluxe/1018-001.zip

...there are no more Options to unhide.

[Borg Number One]

Hi ReelMonza,

I already know that there are mainboards/BIOS files which have troubles with MODBIN6 2.01.01.

It seems to be that there are newer MODBIN6 versions, but because DFI's bad technical support I was not able to get a newer release of MODBIN6.

[high5]

Hi high5!

...
hi BNO, i got my hands on Modbin6 2.01.01 in the meantime so i checked it myself.

but thanks anyway, i appreciate it. :)

[dipdude]

Hi Borg Number One,

Glad to see you helping out so many folks here :toast: Maybe you can help me too.

I have a Foxconn NF4XK8MC(nforce4 4x) mobo with phoenix- awardbios 6.00PG - i tried modbin6 20101 - but frankly i am not sure what i can hide or unhide as my mobo is a budget mobo.

Also one strange thing i noticed in this demo image http://www.dstyles.de/bios/images/borgbios/biosview/biosview-20100-06-04-02-abit-ic-7g.gif you posted is, i have identical setup except i dont have the "SoftMenu Setup" to adjust my Vcore & Vdimm without which my o/c is handicapped. So any help from you is appreciated, tell me if you need more info.

The bios file can be found here http://www.foxconnchannel.com/biosbase/NF4K8MC.zip. Thanks, looking forward for your reply.

[Borg Number One]

Hi dipdude.

Referring to the NF4XK8MC BIOS, following modifications can be done:


Unhiding BIOS Setup Menus

Standard CMOS Features
+ Drive B
+ BIOS ID

Advanced BIOS Features
+ External Cache
+ Quick Power On Self Test

Integrated Peripherals
+ USB Mouse Support
+ MAC Media Interface
+ Onboard Serial Port 2

Power Management Setup
+ Power On by PS/2 Keyboard [Password, Keyboard 98]
+ KB Power ON Password
+ Power On By Button

PC Health Status
+ CPU Core Temp Offset
+ System Fan Controlled by [CPU Temperature, System Temperature]
+ SYS Fan Raising Temp
+ SYS Fan Full-on Temp
+ SYS Fan Start PWM Value
+ SYS Fan Slope PWM Value


Changing BIOS logos

Inside the NF4XK8MC BIOS, following BIOS logos can be removed or exchanged with your own photo or firm/clan logo.

http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/awardbmp.png

http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/winfast-foxcon.png


Expand your BIOS features

If you are interested in using ROMOS or ATASX, then I can also add them to your BIOS.
ROMOS is an emergency Operating system with multilanguage file manager and hard disk/floppy access.
ATASX makes it possible to manage password protected hard disks and to protect your hard disks with a password.
(Using: ATA Security Mode Feature Set)

Here you can get more details
ROMOS:
http://rayer.ic.cz/romos/romose.htm

ATASX:
http://www.fitzenreiter.de/ata/ata_eng.htm

[dipdude]

Thanks for the quick reply Borg, yes i would like you to modify the bios(unhide all the settings & remove the logos) also i would love to have the ROMOS to the bios if it does not interfere with normal functioning of bios & if i dont have problems flashing back the bios integrated with ROMOS.

So please do modify the Bios - thanks for all the help - keep up the great work mate.

__________
PS : So i assume i would not have access to vdimm or vcore.

[Borg Number One]

Hi dipdude,

1.)
I translated the file manager inside ROMOS to English, recompiled it and added ROMOS to the NF4XK8MC BIOS.

2.)
The fullscreen logo was removed.

3.)
No... there are/were no further VDIM related features to unhide.

4.)
Now, just your eMail address (via PM) is required to send your personal BIOS file to you. ;)

[Maviryk]

BNO,

There are about 4-5 of us over at OCF who would like your help. We are using the ASUS P4C800-E Dlx, bios 1024 beta, found here
http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/P4C800E-DX/1024-001.zip with a CT-479 Adaptor and a Dothan chip. We are trying to figure out if it is possible to change the FSB:DRAM ratio to 3:4 or 4:5, since our Dothans are starved for memory bandwidth at 1:1 . Please help us.

Many thanks.

[Borg Number One]

Hi Maviryk,

the ASUS P4C800-E Dlx BIOS 1024 beta does not contain any further menus/options which could be unhide.

Well, in the manual and while simulation I could see that the ASUS P4C800 BIOS already has many DRAM and CPU related settings.



PS:
...it has a nice logo. :D

http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/images/bioslogo/asus-p4c800-deluxe.png

[Maviryk]

Thanks for looking BNO.

That is quite unfortunate. It seems that we're only able to run the ram faster than the CPU when the FSB is below 200MHz then. At 200MHz and above we're stuck with a 1:1 divider.

I've heard of people flashing a P4P bios into the P4C (to get the better divider), but that will disable the onboard RAID since the P4P doesn't have them, which would not be good for me because I am running Raid0.

I appreciate your quick response.

Edit: Yes it does have a nice logo, but unfortunately I tweak my options so much I leave it disabled so that I see the boot screen.

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

I've heard of people flashing a P4P bios into the P4C (to get the better divider), but that will disable the onboard RAID since the P4P doesn't have them, which would not be good for me because I am running Raid0.


If this should really work, then I can add or bring back the (SATA/IDA)RAID-Controller-BIOS from the P4C BIOS to the P4P BIOS.

[Maviryk]

Do you think it is possible to bring back the PAT also? The P4C800 has the I865 chipset instead of the I875chipset. Anyhow, if you can make the changes I have a person with a bios flasher to test it out to see if it works correctly, if not he can physically flash it back.

Actually, looks like the P4P800-E Deluxe has a RAID controller, not sure if it is the same chip or not. Might be safer to replace it with the P4C800 version. P4P800-E Deluxe BIOS Version 1008 can be found at http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/P4P800-E%20DX/P4P8E008.zip

Edit: We found a link that might help you BNO, I can't make heads or tails of it. Buy maybe it will help you.

http://www.bleedinedge.com/guides/p4c800e_ddr533_mod/p4c800e_ddr533_mod_01.html

[Borg Number One]

Hi.

The word: "this"
from the phrase: "If this should really work..." was related to your idea:

"flashing a P4P bios into the P4C"

So, if you can successfully flash the P4P BIOS file into the P4C FLASHROM and if the Mainbaord still boots, then I can bring back the RAID contoller BIOS from the original P4C BIOS file and put it into the P4P BIOS file.

[Maviryk]

BNO, the P4P800 bios WILL work in the P4C800. Mainboard will boot just fine as long as it is flashed properly including bootlock.

Mainly I'm concerned about the RAID drivers and PAT support.

[Borg Number One]

Hi Maviryk,

1.)
Referring to the PAT support, maybe the already mentioned method could work for you too:
http://www.bleedinedge.com/guides/p4c800e_ddr533_mod/p4c800e_ddr533_mod_01.html

2.)
Well, which (detailed) kind of modifications have been done with the BIOS file at all:
http://www.bleedinedge.com/guides/p4c800e_ddr533_mod/p4c800e_ddr533_mod_02.html
-->P4PJEB.rom

What was modified in "Jeb's Upclock BIOS" at all?

What is/was the original BIOS revision/version referring to "Jeb's Upclock BIOS" ?


3.)
Referring to the "RAID drivers support" problem, both BIOS files
(P4C800 and P4P800) contain the same RAID Controller BIOS files/BIOS modules.
Just the network BOOTROM modules are differnt.


Vendor : Device ID -- Module/Extension-BIOS description

P4P8E008

8086:24DF -- Intel(R) RAID for SATA - v3.5.0.3003
11AB:4320 -- Yukon PXE BOOTROM
105A:3373 -- FastTrak 378 (tm) BIOS Version 1.00.0.37 -- 2003 Promise Technology, Inc.


P4C800-E-ASUS-Deluxe

8086:24DF -- Intel(R) RAID for SATA - v3.5.0.3003
8086:1019 -- Intel(R) Boot Agent GE v1.2.17.IBA GE Slot 0000 v1217.PXE 2.1 Build 083 (WfM 2.0)
105A:3373 -- FastTrak 378 (tm) BIOS Version 1.00.0.37 -- 2003 Promise Technology, Inc.

[Maviryk]

Hmm.. interesting. I don't know which version or what was modified in "Jeb's Upclock Bios". When I get home today I'll try the P4P800 EDLX BIOS and see what happens. Thanks.

For some reason I thought it was more complicated than flashing the P4C with a P4P bios.

O.o

[i found nemo]

i wanna modify my bios for my mobo but it's a bin and the mod bin don't give me volt options to change or anything ...

[Otaking71]

could you take a look at this older bios?

http://216.158.218.35/edoc/bios_uploads/6728v3A.zip

they took away memory voltages > 3v after introducing prescott support...i'm wondering if they're unlockable.

thanks.

[tdamocles]

Borg Number One,

I'm having problems saving the changes in this bios.. I'd like the ddr366 divider and the ddr300 divider (which has no menu name.) I can change to selectable but it will not save. Could you mod it? Bios is as follows: 9nda3+ (http://www.epox.nl/downloads/download.php?download_id=615&mode=zip)


Is there any divider options to unhide in this bios?

[munz]

hey maviryk, have you had any success with the bios flash of your board?

i'm also using a p4c800-e deluxe rev 2, 1023 bios w/ 3.0C & 4x512mb ocz 4400 gold modules (2.5-4-4-8)...my 100% prime95/memtest86 stable clock is 222MHz FSB and i'm also using the intel raid-0 (not the promise one)

sorry in advance for bombarding you with questions: did you face any issues with the raid after the flash? is PAT working at speeds > 200FSB? did you need to set the clock to any specific speed (ie: 201FSB) to flash?

lastly...i can't find any bios savior/second bios chip in my current location...it is my understanding that this mod is more complicated than a bios upgrade because there is no guarantee that the p4p bios will work on any given p4c800-e deluxe. would that be an accurate assessment? i'm still on the fence about trying the mod, but i would like to utilize the full potential of my RAMs so any help would be much appreciated.

cheers,

[Harbinger]

Borg Number One--

I'd wanted to try doing this myself, but I can't seem to find a link for your toolkit on your site (maybe I'm blind...). Anyway, you might be able to help with this a lot faster and more accurately than I could do it.

I have an IBM A20m notebook (model 2628-4UU) that I want to upgrade the CPU in. From what I've read on the IBM site, the A20m and A21p seem to share the same basic mobo, but the A20p could have up to a 1 GHz PIII CPU. The latest BIOS for the A20m has CPU microcode for a 0686 CPU (900 MHz) but not the code for an 068A (1 GHz). I wanted to add the 1 GHz code to my BIOS.

Here's a link for the latest A20m BIOS (only available on a utility to make a bootable 'flash' floppy):
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/license.do?filename=mobiles/spsdiw59.exe

Here's a link for the latest A21p BIOS with the 068A microcode (same deal as above, 'flash' floppy):
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/license.do?filename=mobiles/spsdky38.exe

(Note: The link for the "BIOS non-diskette" on each page seems to link to an executable file that wants to flash within Windows and doesn't produce separate BIOS files to work with.)

If this helps, I opened the A20m BIOS file with UltraEdit32 and found a string that identifies the BIOS as by Phoenix, but copyright for IBM.

Can you assist me with this problem, BNO? I'd really appreciate it!

[cirthix]

hi BNO, i've been trying to open dell laptop bioses to move video support tables, but I havent been able to open them. what should I use?

[Borg Number One]

Hi harbinger.

I'd wanted to try doing this myself, but I can't seem to find a link for your toolkit on your site (maybe I'm blind...).

You are not blind ;).
The BNOBTC v5 archive and previous BNOBTC sites are currently not available.

Why?
1.)
I am currently re-building my homepage.

2.)
The number of BNOBTC v5 downloads has been increasing more and more.
This shows me that the BNOBTC and my BIOS modification services are really famous. :)

But all the time the persons (who used my free service and downloaded the BNOBTC) forgot that:
+ there are traffic costs
+ my motivations to provide free BIOS related service decreased more and more, because there never really were enough funds to finance the BNOBTC and BIOS modifications.
(Time is indeed money. Motivation is indeed money too.)

So, I temporary stopped the BNOBTC v5 download and I am currently really thinking about, if I should publish BNOBTC v6 at all.

All the persons, who downloaded the BNOBTC and/or got BIOS related technical support from me,
became more than lucky/happy and satisfied.

So, thousands of Windows and Linux users wrote replies, such as:

+ "Borg Number One, thank you very much for your support!!!! The motherboard firm(s) XXXXX could learn a lesson from you and your great BIOS related technical support."

+ "Hi Borg Number One, with your BIOS related support, I have no more problems with my mainboard anymore. Thanks."

+ "Hi Borg No. One, with the help of your modified BIOS, I will not be annoyed by a stupid BIOS splashlogo anymore and am able to see the P.O.S.T. screen too."

+ "Dear Borg, thank you for solving the CPU microcode error message while boot, thank you for unhide all the previously hidden BIOS Setup Menus and thank you for updating RAID controller ROM."

+ "Dear BNO, I am a linux user and using the DOS/Windows BIOS modification utilities is a little bit difficult. Many of them won't work with common DOS/Windows emulators.
Well, thank you very much for adding EtherBoot to my clients with AMI/Award/Phoenix BIOS."

+ etc...

But nearly nobody thought about making a donation.

Well, I like to provide BIOS related support and to help other users in hardware forums, and I want not to provide / I never wanted to provide this BIOS related technical service in a commercial way.

If I would do a commercial BIOS related support, then I would not be better than many current mainboard companies and OEM PC firms, which provide bad BIOS related technical support.

So, the only solution for:
+ keeping the BNOBTC homepage and BNOBTC archive available
+ further providing BIOS related technical support
+ increase the motivation to re-publish the BNOBTC
+ beginning with BIOS related experiments and research again
+ providing real-time desktop service
(for your problem(s) which may be hardly to describe, you can directly show me your computer related problem on your desktop or my desktop)
+ reducing traffic costs
...was to provide a possibility for a voluntary donation.

Now, everyone who understands the sense of the described facts, can make a voluntary donation here:
http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/donation

[Harbinger]

Hi harbinger.



You are not blind ;).
The BNOBTC v5 archive and previous BNOBTC sites are currently not available.

Why?
<snip>
.
.
.
So, the only solution for:
+ keeping the BNOBTC homepage and BNOBTC archive available
+ further providing BIOS related technical support
+ increase the motivation to re-publish the BNOBTC
+ beginning with BIOS related experiments and research again
+ providing real-time desktop service
(for your problem(s) which may be hardly to describe, you can directly show me your computer related problem on your desktop or my desktop)
+ reducing traffic costs
...was to provide a possibility for a voluntary donation.

Now, everyone who understands the sense of the described facts, can make a voluntary donation here:
http://bnobtc.pix-art.com/donation

I can understand your predicament. Making such valuable services (and your time) available in any tech-related area can quickly expand to take up your entire life. That's why I don't fix other people's computers anymore. :)

From an end-user's standpoint who's just getting into this, however, it's frustrating. Just trying to find the tools alone has taken up a lot of my time over the past week--reading threads, doing research, following a LOT of dead/outdated links, and trying to do it yourself without bugging anyone. Then when you find what seems to be a downloadable solution to your needs, you find the site's been pulled because too many people before you pumped the well dry and didn't leave anything for anyone else. It's been my unfortunate experience with 'shareware' authors that, once you give, updates never come anymore or the author decides to pack it in and you're stuck. That's why I stopped buying shareware a long time ago.

I do hope that others who've taken your time and expertise in the past will chip in something to help compensate you. For now, I'll have to content myself with trying to find a downloadable copy of the last version of BNOBTC...if not, I guess I'll give up the project or settle for a boost to 900 MHz from 600 and be done with it.

Thanks for your reply.

[Harbinger]

...I suppose I should have also asked this question. No one else has thought to, I guess... :)

IF someone were to contribute, would you send them a special download link to get the last available version of BNOBTC? There'd be no reason for them to contribute anything unless they were to receive something in return, you know...

[Harbinger]

!!!

[Harbinger]

...it would appear that BorgNumberOne has left the building. :(

Does anyone have an alternate download link for the last version (5) of the BNOBTC, or could you send it via email? Since he was not asking for contributions at the time the project was available, I don't think it's out of place to ask someone to share. (If it were the non-released version 6 I couldn't do that with a clear conscience.)

[DeH]

Hey BNO

I have a BIOS for a notebook named Vega M31 (danish firm), and i'ld like to unhide some OC features other than the build ind "high performance mode" wich OCs it by 4%. I would like to do it myself if you don't have time yourself, but I can't find ANY place to download Your package of tools or any of the tools seperately.
For info it's an AMI bios.
Please, please help me BorgNumberOne!

Dennis Hansen
(PS: please mail me at Dennishansendeh@gmail.com, and then we can do some more apponting)

[Signal64]

Borg Number One

If your still around and get a chance, can you check this Phoenix BIOS for any possible options that can be unhidden?

Toshiba P15-S409 V2.0 BIOS (http://64.202.175.38/bios/1P10V20.IMA)

Many Thanks.

[Harbinger]

Guys,

If you read his last post several pages back, he flipped us off and told us that he wasn't going to help anyone else unless we sent him money. Too many others downloaded his utilities and got his help with BIOS mods without giving him any ca$h to help defray his expenses. Not that he ever actively sought that help, or made it easy for people to do so...

Now, the way he did this was dumb, IMHO. Why? In his post, he seemed to rip all the other people a new one because nobody helped him. If he'd said, "Sure, I can help you and I'll send a link to d/l my software if you'll send a donation my way," I'd have done that. Instead he asked for money without any promise of help or a download link.

I think he took his toys and went home in a snit. It's a d@mn shame as he seemed to know what he was doing and the community could use his help, but we don't need people with an attitude.

[kocoman]

Can anyone send the rar to me? all sites now just d/l a 2k file asking for donation. I can't find it in torrents/ed2k/rapidshare. thanks

I have a pure Phoenix BIOS (I think) from a m7680n computer. I can't get it to boot (blank screen) with the Lava PCI 650 Serial card.

[Harbinger]

Can anyone send the rar to me? all sites now just d/l a 2k file asking for donation. I can't find it in torrents/ed2k. thanks

I'd like the file also. TIA!

[WiCKeD]

I understand his predicament and he was very helpful in providing a link to the last working MODBIN (Award bioses) which helped alot of us work with the first 939 mATX boards. This allows changing basic features in the setup screen, if there is an option. Here it is attached.

BNO, thanks for your help and I understand both wanting to maintain your principles and loss of interest, but a pay to download link would be helpful in itself. Your interest may have faded, but alot of us still seek help and understand hosting costs money. Bring it back! :)

Now looking for the latest AMI bios editor, if anyone can provide...

[MrBean]

I think he took his toys and went home in a snit. It's a d@mn shame as he seemed to know what he was doing and the community could use his help, but we don't need people with an attitude.

Mmm...sometimes you need a person with a bit of attitude, as more often than not so many are willing to just take everything on offer for free, but when the time comes to give something small back, those same guys want to crappola in their pants

I am fully willing to pay for his ongoing support, and I am pretty sure once you donate to his link, you will receive latest Bios Toolkit.

PM him and ask him, the best way.

If you want the tools bad enough, you will at least be willing to donate - let's support these Specialists, guys.

[Giana]

Is Borg still active here ?! :D

I could give some one the Ver. 5 of the "bnobtc" , but i wont do this if BORG say NO to this :D

I really hope there will be some new tools in near future :(

[Harbinger]

Is Borg still active here ?! :D

I haven't seen him post anywhere for a while now. If you decide to make your copy of the tools available, I'm sure there might be somewhere that could host them for multiple downloaders.

I look at it like this--he made the tools available for the longest time without actively seeking donations. To me it would be fair game to pass them along, as his objections really started when v6 was mentioned.

Personally, I'd love to send him a little money in exchange for a valid download link. I even asked in several messages here as well as PMs but he wouldn't answer the question. So, I'm not about to blindly send $ without an assurance I'd get them. Now, if someone sends me a good copy, I'll go ahead and send him a donation just on principle--even if he never makes v6 available. That's the only right thing to do.

[Diverge]

No offense to Borg, but he can't prevent people from sharing those tools. He may have helped lots of people, and gathered all the tools together, but he didn't write those programs, so he has no right to prevent people from sharing them. If he no longer wishes to help people, that is his choice. Don't let his decision not to help others affect your own.

Edit: Happy bios editing: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HTKF7FLO (If mods think this is unethical in anyway, feel free to remove. In simplest terms, it's just a collection of tools already out there.)

[STEvil]

While I agree with MrBean, truth-be-known, for AWARD BIOS modding, one only needs the latest Cbrom(free), Modbin6(free), Fasm(free), IDA Free Disassembler(free), and Hex Workshop($29) to do all that can be done.

For AMI, MMTool is equivalent to Cbrom, and AMIBCP for windows is equivalent to Modbin. Both are also free and can be found with Google...

Problem today is that, many of the new BIOS can't be opened with last years tools.... And new tools don't exist that I know of....


IDA is not free.

[Lestat]

No offense to Borg, but he can't prevent people from sharing those tools. He may have helped lots of people, and gathered all the tools together, but he didn't write those programs, so he has no right to prevent people from sharing them. If he no longer wishes to help people, that is his choice. Don't let his decision not to help others affect your own.

Edit: Happy bios editing: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HTKF7FLO (If mods think this is unethical in anyway, feel free to remove. In simplest terms, it's just a collection of tools already out there.)


that link doesnt link to anything but the front main page of that site

[JWilson]

IDA is not free.

Looks free to me:

http://www.geocities.com/mamanzip/Articles/Award_Bios_RE/images/IDA_Pro_free_1st_screen.jpg


"IDA Pro Free 4.3" is free. No charge. Use Google....

See: Pinczakko's Guide to Award BIOS Reverse Engineering (http://www.geocities.com/mamanzip/Articles/Award_Bios_RE/Award_Bios_RE_guide.html)

[SoddemFX]

that link doesnt link to anything but the front main page of that site

It does, there's a link at the top right, click then enter a security code, then wait 60 seconds, then you get the download link and a pop up with scantilly clad women in Wiltshire :confused:

Downloading now :)

Tom

[Mr. Peanut]

Thank you!

[Pinczakko]

Looks free to me:

http://www.geocities.com/mamanzip/Articles/Award_Bios_RE/images/IDA_Pro_free_1st_screen.jpg


"IDA Pro Free 4.3" is free. No charge. Use Google....

See: Pinczakko's Guide to Award BIOS Reverse Engineering (http://www.geocities.com/mamanzip/Articles/Award_Bios_RE/Award_Bios_RE_guide.html)

There are several editions of IDA Pro version 4.3. There is freeware edition (shown above), this version only supports x86 and it doesn't support IDA Pro plugin, only IDA Pro scripts. There is standard edition, that supports plugins and some other processor architectures beside x86 (IIRC). There is advanced edition that comes with the IDA Pro plugin SDK and 50 (or so) processor architectures support. IIRC, the standard edition costs around U$500, the advanced edition cost more. The freeware edition is ofcourse free, but I found out the free edition is enough for semiautomatic BIOS disassembly tasks.

[Harbinger]

No offense to Borg, but he can't prevent people from sharing those tools. He may have helped lots of people, and gathered all the tools together, but he didn't write those programs, so he has no right to prevent people from sharing them. If he no longer wishes to help people, that is his choice. Don't let his decision not to help others affect your own.

Edit: Happy bios editing: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HTKF7FLO (If mods think this is unethical in anyway, feel free to remove. In simplest terms, it's just a collection of tools already out there.)

I haven't visited in a while, and just found your download link. THANK YOU!

I tried to honor my word and visited the link Borg left for donations, but it appears to be dead. I also tried the BNOBTC page and it is dead also. I'm going to try another avenue or two before giving up.

[angelicavoc]

hi guys...
iam new member in here..

i just to ask, does "IDA Pro Free 4.3" working good on my abit AB9 Quad GT??
thkas