FLUKE 16 for reading temps

[iboomalot]

NEO2 plat sucks temp reading wise

thinking of checking my water temps and other things with this unit

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25412&item=3876864297&rd=1


good one to get?

[MaxxxRacer]

fluke makes very good ones, but i dont think that is one of their more accurate ones. try finidng one that is only for temp measure... considering the price of that one there you should be able to find one cheaper thats only from temps..

[iboomalot]

LOL same accuracy and cheap

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25361&item=3877505480&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

whatcha think?

[MaxxxRacer]

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

its about as accurate as trying to tell the temperature by spitting on your finger and putting it up in the air and taking a guess....

[iboomalot]

blahhhhhhhhhh

the DIGITAL INFRARED ones are +/- 3f or 2c which is worse.

I thought +/- 1.8f or 1c was alot better


what would you get that doesn't cost alot???

[MaxxxRacer]

i wouldnt.. the only good ones are the expensive ones.. the good ones are around 150 bucks and up.. u can get a non certified one for about 150 that is withing less than one C accuracy..

[iboomalot]

i wouldnt.. the only good ones are the expensive ones.. the good ones are around 150 bucks and up.. u can get a non certified one for about 150 that is withing less than one C accuracy..

like???? example???

I might be able to find a used one on ebay for less.

Fluke 16s are 120.00 I found a few that sold for 30-50.00

so what do you recomend thats less than +/- 1c ???

[Necromonger]

This would be a cost effective way:

Get a couple “Compunurse” for $6.99
@ http://www.bestbyteinc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SEN-CNU-001

Specs:

Self contained temperature sensor with LCD readout. 800mm probe cable, 3 second sampling cycle. Specifications CompuNurse Digital Temperature Disply Range -40° C to 90 ° C Resolution 0.1°C(max0.3°C) Accurancy 1°C Display Constant readout Sampling 3 second sampling cycle Sensor Cord 800 mm cold resistant PVC cable Battery G10(1PC) Dimensions 48mm x 2806mm x 14 mm

Or one or two DigitalDoc5 for $29.00 to $44.00:
@ http://www.bestbyteinc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PAN-MAC-D5PW

Accuracy: Plus minus 1 Degree

I use CompuNurse’s and DigitalDoc5’s in all of my rigs and they work great!
Cheap and effective.

[MaxxxRacer]

um they are not effective becuase they are not accurate.... lol... you should know that by know necro..

[Necromonger]

um they are not effective becuase they are not accurate.... lol... you should know that by know necro..

There close enough for government work! ...lol...

[iboomalot]

There close enough for government work! ...lol...

not the IRS they want every dollar down to the penny :D


oh and stop staring at me :stick: :D

[saratoga]

I love fluke meters, but you can do better then that one. Its a DMM with a basic thermocouple circuit, not the best for accuray. Though it'd be nice to have for the other stuff (it even measures capacitance).

Fluke does make a number of dedicated units. Ebay is a great place for these things. How accurate do you want to be? You can do a lot better for a hundred bucks anyway. I've seen (Fluke!) RTD units go for less then that. For some reason though handheld readers go for much, much more money then desktop ones, so thats part of the reason that fluke is so expensive.

Accuracy: Plus minus 1 Degree

Hehe good luck with that. Thermistors are good probes, but they is a lot of variation in them. I would not trust them to be accurate unless you've tested it. Theres a lot of crappy ones out there. Worse they have very limited temp ranges, a few tens of degrees and then the accuracy is goes to crap. Its easy to measure temp when the resistance changes by hundreds of ohms a degree. Not so easy when the resistance is only changing a few ohms at lower temps. The noise from your computer alone will be several degrees of inaccuracy. Did you shield your cables? Probably not worth it anyway.

Reading core temps with a discrete probe is a lost cause. Temperature varies by 10 or more degrees over the core in normal use. Even if your system is perfect, even if it doesn't induce a thermal shadow, and even if it has no heat capacity and amazing response time, you're not going measure an accurate temp from the outside of the core because its not at the same temperature as the inside. Its handy for coolant or evap temps though.

[Necromonger]

I concur with you on that iboomalot, and next time Ill try not to stare so much….lol.. :lol:

Saratoga, I also concur with you…lol, I also love my old Fluke’s, I basically use the thermoresistors, thermistors or temp probes to measure inside & outside ambient and input and output coolant temps, and I put a few on my water blocks, but other than that their not that accurate, just like you said.
Quality = $, just like any thing else.

[specialblend218]

You might want to check out McMaster they had some certified temps probes including Fluke.

[Alec]

I have an infra-red temparature probe. its pretty accurate but the only down side is they are less accurate on shiny surfaces (like heatsinks :()

[Premmer]

[QUOTE=iboomalot]NEO2 plat sucks temp reading wise

thinking of checking my water temps and other things with this unit

Check out this site which does not reflect their entire selection.
http://www.techinstrument.com/acatalog/Panel___Wall_Mount_Thermometers.html

I bought one of their Model DPT300FB (not shown on web site) for $17. Installed on 5 1/4-in bay cover and converted from battery-powered to PC-powered. Mounted probe in tee fitting on pump discharge side.

Specs are as follows:
Black Panel Mount w/ 3-ft. lead and 1-in. long stainless steel probe
Range: -50 to 150C
Resolution: 0.1C
Accuracy: +/- 1.0C - good enough for me for $17 expendature

[9mmCensor]

I got a CrystalFontz 633 LCD which uses DOW (Dallas One Wire) sensors which are small and quite accurate.

[Butcher_]

My fluke 177 is probably my favourite piece of test gear. It rocks. ;)

[iboomalot]

I usually run my system 24/7 but I turned it off last night and when I went into BIOS to check temps after startup and CPU temp said 38c

It says that same temp if I restart after folding for a week

oh well thanks for the suggestions. I found a probe thats +/- .5c which is pretty good with .1 resolution

[MaxxxRacer]

sounds good iboom.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D Looking good mate, but I wouldn't spend 120 bucks on it......., better get half an hour with Anna Black for the money :lol:

:toast:

[iboomalot]

still looking might go with a RTD probe and a used unit.

found this for a control/display

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50974&item=3876376253&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

just have to find a RTD probe that will work

[iboomalot]

:D Looking good mate, but I wouldn't spend 120 bucks on it......., better get half an hour with Anna Black for the money :lol:

:toast:


if I could get 1/2 hour for only 120.00 with that woman I would do it.

with her only take 5 mins to be done so get 6 visits for that 120.00 thats a bargain ;)

[MaxxxRacer]

that last statement is sooo wrong its not even fathomable... thank god there was no mental image created form that statement.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

if I could get 1/2 hour for only 120.00 with that woman I would do it.

with her only take 5 mins to be done so get 6 visits for that 120.00 thats a bargain ;)

:D Oh, You got me wrong - I thought about half an hour minigolf with her............. :lol:

SRY for :off:

:toast:

[iboomalot]

minigolf hummm -- I was thinking something with a pool table :D

how about these??

http://www.instrumentation2000.com/catalog/temperature/01/010110a.html#chktmp

Applications:
Superheat, Evaporator Temperatures
Plate and Condensing Temperatures
Measure Air Inlet, Outlet and Surrounding Air


Features:
Ultra Sensitive Air and Surface Reading Probe, Quick Response
Super Accurate RTD Sensor, 0.2° Surface, 1° Air
Large LCDDisplay - (7/16” High, 3-1/2 Digits, 1/10° Increments)
Reads Temperatures from -40°F to +199.9°F
Battery Operated (Requires Standard 9 V Battery)
Dimensions: 1 1/2” x 6 3/4” x 7/8”

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

minigolf hummm -- I was thinking something with a pool table :D

how about these??

http://www.instrumentation2000.com/catalog/temperature/01/010110a.html#chktmp

Applications:
Superheat, Evaporator Temperatures
Plate and Condensing Temperatures
Measure Air Inlet, Outlet and Surrounding Air


Features:
Ultra Sensitive Air and Surface Reading Probe, Quick Response
Super Accurate RTD Sensor, 0.2° Surface, 1° Air
Large LCDDisplay - (7/16” High, 3-1/2 Digits, 1/10° Increments)
Reads Temperatures from -40°F to +199.9°F
Battery Operated (Requires Standard 9 V Battery)
Dimensions: 1 1/2” x 6 3/4” x 7/8”



:D I understand - maybe You should buy the fluke, also good for measure Your own temperatures while watching her movies....... :toast:

[Butcher_]

iboom - why so worried about your temps anyway?

[iboomalot]

doesn't make a difference if its at 30c or 45c its just BS that even after my system sits overnight the lowest reading is 38c

also I did a dual cooling setup and wanted to see how well its working.

zalman reserator fanless = 49c
zalman reserator two 80mm case exh fans = 46c
zalman reserator one 120mm fan = 42c
zalman reserator two 120mm fans = 40c
above according to ASUS probe
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installed Weapon HC + two 120mm fans = 42c
mobo send to RMA due to AGP slot messed up
X800XT sent to RMA due to AGP slot toasting it.

NEO 2 plat substituted lowest reading 38c highest 43-44c
with BOTH weapon HC and Reserator but everything cool to
the touch. water in the reserator isn't even warm.

so to answer your question not worried but would like to know

[MaxxxRacer]

ROFL!! those are the most wacked out temps ive seen in a while..

[iboomalot]

ROFL!! those are the most wacked out temps ive seen in a while..


no joke thats why I want a probe to test it with.

I figure I can do some testing get real world temps then sell the temp probe on ebay for break even or small loss.