Cpu Block Poll

[bimmer01]

Which one would you pick to water cool an A64 system.
Set aside Aqua Computer, or Cascade or the G4s and G5s.

Swiftech 6002-64

DangerDen RDX

DangerDen TDX

Polarflo TT Series


PUMP:
Either DD or Swiftech 650 12V pumps

[iboomalot]

I use a 6002-64 because I feel its overall design will allow future upgrades with good cooling ability.

might include the pump you plan on using?

[idleuser]

You forgot to list Dtek Whitewater block. :)

[caLume]

ZERN PQ Plus. only produced by an austrian firm :)

http://www.ktc-cooling.com/catalog/images/product_images/info_images/7_0.jpg

[MaxxxRacer]

caLume, is that another one of those uberflow killers you have been showing us?

BTW, I voted for the 6002, becuase as looking at pH's graphs, it shows that hte 6002 will outperform the RBX and especially the TDX at the max flow rates of the mcp650 in an ordinary loop. (around 1.5gpm). If you hade a stgronger pump the RBX would be the optimum choice, followed by the TDX.

[caLume]

caLume, is that another one of those uberflow killers you have been showing us?


every of my presented blocks is a flowkiller in your eyes :D

anyway, no, i know some friends who use this block, they got very nice temps and the resistance is also missing ;)

[MaxxxRacer]

well thats good... got any more specs on it?

[iboomalot]

http://yohanng.free.fr/z1.jpg


is that a flow killing design????

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yes it is sorry just got a better pic shows the top which dips down on top of those fins.

http://www.caseumbau.de/test311/DSC00023.JPG

[Psyche911]

It's hard to tell how much clearance it's got when closed. With those tiny fins, if the top is touching the top of the fins, then yes that's got to be restrictive...

[iboomalot]

this other chipset design out of plexi will shed some more light on the subject

http://www.caseumbau.de/test311/DSC00004.JPG

[MaxxxRacer]

oh the internal design is good... i wonder how well it cools. but how big are the fittings?

[specialblend218]

How are they cutting those fins? with a slit saw by chance?

[Disposibleteen]

How are they cutting those fins? with a slit saw by chance?
that or laser.
I dont like the plexi top, it might crack at the fitting holes, especially if you try to overtighten it

[AMDnewbie]

those slits are probably cut by EDM machines...

[Craig]

I'm not so sure I agree with these being all that restictive guys. While a micro channel block can be quite restrictive, look at the number of channels it has as well. For a example look at the resistence figures on a White Water vs a Storm block even though the WW has far fewer channels. Will depend on depth of the channels and total area for flow to determine how high the resistince will be. From the pics I think I'd have gone for a bit fewer, but slightly wider channels.

Would be very interesting to see how it compared, how about it caLume or IboomALOT, can one of you perhaps offer this block to pH for him to test if he's willing?

One things sure it's overkill at this time for MB chipset cooling. But should make a good GPU block IMO.

[Craig]

In regards to the original question posed here.

I voted for the TDX, I don't like 3 barbs designs (which is just my personal preferance), and the Swifty isn't a easy block to take apart and clean from what I've heard.

Also the higher system flow the TDX with a number 4 jet would gives would help to drive a good GPu flow rate as well.

[MaxxxRacer]

craig, sadly the mcp650 will only drive the tdx to a 1.5gpm level and it wont get you the performance that you want to be able to beat the mcw6002... kinda sucks but true...

craig, i was saying that block isnt to restrictive. its main resriction point imo is the fittings.... the block could be designed to take alot more flow with larger fittings.

[Ancient_1]

Max you may be right on that and you may not be. The thing about the Swifty is that it uses the stock mounting in all aplications which will also be mounting pressures that are within the stock spec. Mounting pressure can make a big difference as far as temps go and with a little extra mounting pressure the TDX could easily overcome the little performance difference between the two blocks. That is the reason I have my RBX mounted to about one turn from coil bind on my mounting springs.

The problem is that doing that it is possible to crack your core specially if you have a slightly off mount. I am also quite sure my MB is warped some from the mount (I wish DD sent a backing plate with thier blocks) which shouldnt cause any problems but it is possible.

Between most of the top blocks a good mount can make more difference than the actual performance difference between the blocks. It is the mounting of the Swifty that I dislike the most about the block period, it doesnt give the user any way to adjust the pressure of the mount.

[jinu117]

No G4 in listing? I love mine.

[MaxxxRacer]

jinu its a tad bit hard to get.. but it is the best not counting hte G5.

you make a good point ancient... i should make a mouting bracket for my axp for the TDX... it could use it... my nf7-s flexes a bit when i tighten it down.

but with that said, ph does alot to make sure the mount doesnt cuase the testings to be off..

[caLume]

oh the internal design is good... i wonder how well it cools. but how big are the fittings?

1/4"

[MaxxxRacer]

*breaks down and cries* there is no justice in this world is there!!!!

well thats the same OD as my RC car fuel tubing as im holding in my hand.. so i wasnt too far off...

*holds 5/8ID tubing in one hand and fuel tubing in other... ponders max flow rate......*

[tinker77]

I vote G4. ;)
Although, I'm still waiting for it to arrive.....

[MaxxxRacer]

lol... tinker... I would as well... as long as you cna get it....

[specialblend218]

those slits are probably cut by EDM machines...

That would make for an expensive block then since EDM machines aren't the quickest in the world.

[boshi]

I would go for RBX myself.

[Squid_Spit]

I voted for the 6002-64, which i'll be getting.

[CNCL]

Where does whitewater stand in this competition?

[MaxxxRacer]

smack dab in the middle... its all very close...

[Ancient_1]

I would put the WW about the same as the RBX with the WW better with weaker pumps and RBX better with stronger pumps.

BTW Cathar is now taking order requests for the G5s.

[qdemn7]

Well I vote for a G4 or a G5, but that's just me.