Spork Machine Ver. 4.0 [Archive] - XtremeSystems Forums

Evil_Spork

02-23-2005, 03:33 AM

it all started year ago with a msi kt333, then on to NF2, now its time for NF4 and a full overhaul! :toast:

parts:
3000+ winnie 0447
DFI NF4 ultra
x850xt got it, 0448,couldnt get an 0448 cpu but i got it on my gpu!:rolleyes:
1gig gskill LE
ocz 600watt
4*160gig seagate sata (3 in raid0, 1 jbod for image of array)
2*120gig ide hdd for random junk

parts are being ordered or have been, so far i have the gskill and im using it in my NF2 rig, Ver. 3.6. also the x850xt came today, so im going to post a few pics of that, and hit the ol dusty trail....

without further ado:
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2300.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2301.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2302.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2288.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2293.jpg
added DFI infinity NF2 SB sinks to the ram heat plate, it should help some.
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2303.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2315.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2336.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2340.jpg
huge thick pad there... that cant be too good...
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2345.jpg
cleaned off the core, then added AS5.
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2351.jpg
and the money shot of the GPU core:
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/IMG_2345.jpg

if anyone wants super close up and high res pics of any of the parts i listed, just post or PM me and i will provide ASAP :)

SAE

02-23-2005, 03:37 AM

Nice stuff, my friend :)

Hope it performs up to your expecations :thumbsup:

zA.Gosu

02-23-2005, 05:15 AM

High res shot of vcore mod area?

Evil_Spork

02-23-2005, 09:11 AM

High res shot of vcore mod area?
TBH, im not sure where it is lol... point me in a direction :p:

perkam

02-23-2005, 10:02 AM

http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/x850xt/good/small/IMG_2345.jpg

The R480 Core under Golden Light !!!! Hallelujah !!!!! :worship:

Perkam

Evil_Spork

02-23-2005, 12:10 PM

woot!! got my DFI ultra-d! and my dangerden TDX!

pics comming!

http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/dfi/smal/IMG_2354.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/dfi/smal/IMG_2355.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/dfi/smal/IMG_2356.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/dfi/smal/IMG_2357.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/dfi/smal/IMG_2358.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/dfi/smal/IMG_2359.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/dfi/smal/IMG_2360.jpg

GazC

02-23-2005, 12:14 PM

Look forward to seeing your results, oh evilest of dual purpose culinary devices! :D

Evil_Spork

02-23-2005, 12:16 PM

Look forward to seeing your results, oh evilest of dual purpose culinary devices! :D
i might have results today!

im going to a computer store today, and he might have a cpu for me. if not i have to wait on a money order and shipping for the one i ebay'ed. (0447 3000+)

Dissolved

02-23-2005, 12:22 PM

Nice setup, that will be a big step from your 2600+ ;)

Those sinks on the hsf rear bracket i dont know will do much, but i guess its better then nothing. maybe you could have someone cnc you a Sink with mounting holes then you could use that for the sinks and a bracket. might cost ya some green tho..

EnJoY

02-23-2005, 12:38 PM

Been awhile since you've been overclocking eh Spork? Last I saw of you were in the height of the DFI Infinity OC days.

Evil_Spork

02-23-2005, 12:42 PM

Been awhile since you've been overclocking eh Spork? Last I saw of you were in the height of the DFI Infinity OC days.
yep. got low on cash, got a job, lost the job, sat around. and here i am lol

i got lazy and stopped posting and such, but IM BACK!!

i guess i should make some goals for this rig... anyone have some suggestions? :toast:

btw, its nice to see people remember me and know who i am! :cool: <3

Nice setup, that will be a big step from your 2600+ ;)

Those sinks on the hsf rear bracket i dont know will do much, but i guess its better then nothing. maybe you could have someone cnc you a Sink with mounting holes then you could use that for the sinks and a bracket. might cost ya some green tho..
i agree. :p:

to CNC somthing like that would cost a good bit actually, that would be alot of milling. ill probably get some better sinks for the back if my idea works. maybe ill start a trend! :p:

tinker77

02-23-2005, 02:12 PM

sweeeeet!! set up doo =)

EnJoY

02-23-2005, 06:37 PM

I remember you spork because you posted a lot back then (not spam either). Plus you were sort of one of the pioneers for the Infinity board in terms of high overclocks and mods. I mostly remember, you, SAE, Saaya, and LastViking from those days.

STEvil

02-23-2005, 09:29 PM

yep. got low on cash, got a job, lost the job, sat around. and here i am lol

i got lazy and stopped posting and such, but IM BACK!!

i guess i should make some goals for this rig... anyone have some suggestions? :toast:

btw, its nice to see people remember me and know who i am! :cool: <3

i agree. :p:

to CNC somthing like that would cost a good bit actually, that would be alot of milling. ill probably get some better sinks for the back if my idea works. maybe ill start a trend! :p:

get me some measurements, got some copper laying around ;)

blinky

02-23-2005, 09:52 PM

to CNC somthing like that would cost a good bit actually, that would be alot of milling. ill probably get some better sinks for the back if my idea works. maybe ill start a trend! :p:
i think u can dremel one out of copper sheet, and drill ur own holes ;)

scrible88

02-23-2005, 10:02 PM

Welcome back! I haven't seen you forever. I haven't been around much recently until I got my new rig together! You helped me lots with my old DFI Infinity. The good 'ole XP mobiles were fun.

SAE

02-23-2005, 11:36 PM

Evil_Spork

02-24-2005, 12:13 AM

Hehe... :D

Maybe these times will revive soon ;)
i think we might be there still!

these new A64s look pretty fun!

im keeping all 2/3 of my AXP rigs. i need at least one for my beloved 9800pro.
ill have news on that soon too, once my A64 is up and running ill grab the 9800pro air GPU clock speed record. speaking of which, what is the record? last i heard it was 523mhz for 3d01. :confused:

EnJoY

02-24-2005, 07:41 AM

Hehe... :D

Maybe these times will revive soon ;)

Yea, looks like you both have DFI/Athlon systems lined up again. I'm interested to see what you boys will do with it. :)

Chr0n1c

02-24-2005, 08:21 AM

looking good man!

SAE

02-24-2005, 08:26 AM

Yep, mates... hehe, hope I will get my FX soon, cannot wait ;)

Evil_Spork

02-24-2005, 09:33 AM

Yep, mates... hehe, hope I will get my FX soon, cannot wait ;)
woo this should be fun to see!!!

it'll be like old times with us tweaking our nearly identical systems!

that was alot of fun!

Evil_Spork

03-03-2005, 11:21 AM

well now... what should i do first when i get my cpu tomorow?

gpu OC? stock benches?

Geforce4ti4200

03-03-2005, 11:35 AM

EnJoY

03-03-2005, 11:36 AM

Do benchies on all stock speeds, fastest settings/timings everywhere. Then do max cpu/mem clocking with stock gpu. Then go for max everything! :slobber: :)

...Atleast that's what I'd like to see. :P

Evil_Spork

03-03-2005, 11:38 AM

Do benchies on all stock speeds, fastest settings/timings everywhere. Then do max cpu/mem clocking with stock gpu. Then go for max everything! :slobber: :)

...Atleast that's what I'd like to see. :P
sounds right.. i think ill leave the cpu and whatnot at stock and clock the graphics card up for some 03 action or something :p:

Evil_Spork

03-03-2005, 11:42 AM

"my A64 is up and running ill grab the 9800pro air GPU clock speed record. speaking of which, what is the record? last i heard it was 523mhz for 3d01."

I think it was in the 530s but with lots of white dots and sometimes lockups. I dont think ive seen any even break 500 on air without a few white dots. I own a 9800p from some dude who says it does 470/390 completely clean but when I tested it out I begin to get arties starting at 450/380. May just be a heat limit, he could live in a cold climate. Well see what my vga silencer gets her. How does the ram on your 9800p do? I remember you were one of those 22k guys with a NON a64, insane stuff!

i havnt tried benching with my gpu volts up...so well see. i got the 22k(was actually high 21k in win xp) with stock cooled 9800! now with vgpu and cooling i can bench 3d01 at over 500mhz with my 24/7 voltage. not even sure what 1.95vgpu can do... i got a 554mhz screenshot at that speed.

heres my logic: stock cooling i had 461 24/7 stable, 470 wouldnt go and if i recall it would reboot under 480mhz. so by that math 554 -20mhz = ~534mhz :stick:

Geforce4ti4200

03-03-2005, 11:49 AM

I dont think it scales like that. My 9800p is almost clean at 450 core, artifacts alot at 460 and locks at 470. There is about a 10-15MHz grace between no artifacts and massive artifacting/locking. It gets worse as you go(450..............465)You didnt mention what your ram does, this matters alot, especially with high core clocks. Bench with everything stock then everything overclocked, even with 3dmark 2003. Good luck with 2001, will be interesting to see where you end up. Think I have any chance of beating you in 2001 with a good 9800p and Venice? one more thing, when/if you sell your 9800p, id like to be the first to know ;)

Evil_Spork

03-03-2005, 12:00 PM

mem in atitool is at 380...

SAE

03-03-2005, 02:08 PM

woo this should be fun to see!!!

it'll be like old times with us tweaking our nearly identical systems!

that was alot of fun!
Hehe, I am indeed looking forward to it, mate! :up:

Good luck tweaking the sh1t out of your new hardware... :D

Evil_Spork

03-04-2005, 01:21 AM

Hehe, I am indeed looking forward to it, mate! :up:

Good luck tweaking the sh1t out of your new hardware... :D
new cpu tomorow!!!!!!!!

12 hours away!!!!!! i might have to skip out on some work to play heheheh :D

SAE

03-04-2005, 04:08 AM

:lol:

Yep, everything gets unimportant then ;)

isp

03-04-2005, 08:15 AM

Nice system you're building. :D I can't wait to see what kind of numbers you pull out of it... :toast:

Evil_Spork

03-04-2005, 10:01 AM

Nice system you're building. :D I can't wait to see what kind of numbers you pull out of it... :toast:
ill have my cpu in hours..

ill have it up and running soon!!!!!!

gunna use one of my sata hdds. and my 300watt PCP&C :rolleyes:

the ocz 600 comes monday

Evil_Spork

03-04-2005, 10:45 AM

got my cpu!!!! YEAH!!

ADA3000DIK4BI
CBBHD 0447RPDW
1161909L40561

http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/winchester3000/IMG_2428.jpg
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/winchester3000/IMG_2431.jpg

isp

03-04-2005, 04:09 PM

How is the build going? :D

Evil_Spork

03-04-2005, 04:11 PM

shes up and running. flawless so far. very painless.

i have software burning to put on the new rig. once its all installed ill start benchign adn OCing. but im not sure how far ill get with my little 300 watt PCP*C psu. :p

freecableguy

03-04-2005, 04:22 PM

More system pics! :D

BaNaNaS

03-04-2005, 04:39 PM

Nice pick ups!! Hope the 3000+ is nice to you and oc's well!! :banana:

Evil_Spork

03-04-2005, 05:15 PM

Nice pick ups!! Hope the 3000+ is nice to you and oc's well!! :banana:
i dont think well know till next week haha, this 300watt psu looks like its barely hanging on. :p:

running 3d 01 right now at stock
didnt even tweak mem timings lol.. bh5 at 2-3-2-6

3d01: 21724
3d03: 11697
3d05: 5666

MaxxxRacer

03-04-2005, 07:08 PM

Evil_Spork

03-04-2005, 07:35 PM

those scores arn to shabby.. what cooling u got on the cpu and gpu? i think i saw you mention TDX. If that is so, hop on over to the WC section.

and upgrade ur psu man.. it will help.. it helped me a bit when i went from my 350watt enermax to my 520watt ocz.
im still waiting for my ocz600.

for now everything is totally bone stock. 3200+ cpu cooler on my 3000+, stock x850 cooling.

an update.. i did some 03 playing, and so far my top score is 13,030. stock cpu. only graphics clocks

i cant OC my cpu at ALL, the psu is just too weak. but i can get some decent graphics card clocks. the gpu is very limited due to power(about 555 max) but the ram does ok at 645mhz :)

more to come.. feel free to IM me if you wanna chat as i play with it. :)

BaNaNaS

03-04-2005, 07:37 PM

Awww that stinks that your OCZ 600 hasn't arrived. Was it backordered or did you just order it at a later date? You going to run some aquamark3?

Evil_Spork

03-04-2005, 07:55 PM

Awww that stinks that your OCZ 600 hasn't arrived. Was it backordered or did you just order it at a later date? You going to run some aquamark3?
both...

i dont even have aquamark3, tried it about once. got 18k on my 9800p when i should have gotten about 50k and never went back. it also seemed to favor intel way too much.

is it worth my time to get? :confused:

BaNaNaS

03-04-2005, 08:11 PM

Well, I wouldn't say it's a waste of time. I enjoy it more than 05/03/01, but that's just me... It's up to you ;]

Evil_Spork

03-04-2005, 08:22 PM

scores!

futuremark sucks so i can only publish one 03 and one 05 score at once... so i posted my highest.

this is winXP SP2 also. so my 01 score lacks a little.

all are with stock cpu, and the x850 is the only thing OCed. im being held back by my psu... :(

stock 01:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8462240
OCed 01:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8462305
OCed 03:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3767151
OCed 05:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=643767

nebuchanezzar

03-04-2005, 08:51 PM

Those #s will only get better :D . Nice to see the spork once again rippin it up with the newest DFI has to offer. Have fun :banana4:

isp

03-04-2005, 09:19 PM

Evil_Spork

03-05-2005, 01:15 AM

Looking good spork...taking your time getting a feel for things...finding out the max's etc...

Did you tell us the specs on your watercooling yet? :D I'm sure once you get the water flowing and that ocz600 you'll be cranking out even higher numbers...:thumbsup:
for now im very psu limited. so the high numbers arent so high :p

the water cooling specs:
hydor L30 (320gph)
1/2" tygon
dangerden TDX brass top
radiator is yet to be had. my hold up is some machine work needed on my new case and finding the right rad. the rad is the very last piece of hardware that i need, then i can take my barton rig apart, and probly put it on a mobo box on the floor with an AX-7(i love ax-7, i have 2) while i get the water cooling ready.

for now i dont think cpu cooling is going to limit me. i tried to OC the cpu and such, i got 1.5vcore to run and it wasnt too hot, but the board refuses to give me more than 2.7vdimm. its stuck on 2.7v. thats not a big issue with tccd, but im using my tccd in my everyday barton comp(i like the gig of ram) and i have bh5 in the a64, 2.7v isnt enough. and everything gets retarded with more fsb due to the psu.

GazC

03-05-2005, 01:20 AM

I'm sorry to say it Spork but from what I've seen CBBHD isn't a very good stepping :(

Sorry dude!

Evil_Spork

03-05-2005, 03:02 AM

I'm sorry to say it Spork but from what I've seen CBBHD isn't a very good stepping :(

Sorry dude!
i think youre mistaken, the CBBIH steppings are on all the 05 chips, and they tend to suck big time.

the magic 0448 SPAW chips are CBBHD last i checked

gundamit

03-05-2005, 05:06 AM

i think youre mistaken, the CBBIH steppings are on all the 05 chips, and they tend to suck big time.

the magic 0448 SPAW chips are CBBHD last i checked A lot of good CBBHD out there. Avoid CBBIDs like the plague. E-Spork, where did you get your CBBHD?

saaya

03-05-2005, 05:37 AM

mines a CBBHD as well, 0449 GPMW, and id say its not a bad chip :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25950&stc=1

stock heatsink, 60mm 35cfm papst fan, 15°C cool air :D

have fun with your new stuff dominic! good to see you back man :toast:
that dfi heatsink is really really close to all videocards edges, same with my 6600gt :rolleyes:

if your using an usb mouse or keyboard change the usb voltage thing to 5vsb! the jumpers are up on the board, they are described in the first pages of the manual :) it fixes instability problems some people had with their dfi boards when using an usb mouse or keyboard afaik :)

oh and dont use the special vid control at first! it screwes up the vcore for me and some other people, use the normal vcore and startup vcore first.
oh and go step by step with your cpu!
i never saw one of my many cpus show the slightest efect of burning in, but this one is insane!
first it wouldnt even do 2500mhz stable with 1.55v and i couldnt boot at 2550mhz
now it does 2600mhz stable (with a papst fan and <18°C air, but nevertheless impressive!) and boots with up to 2750mhz!

i switched back to the stock amd fan and ran the tests again, and its now stable 50-100mhz higher then when i first tried this chip! :eek: :banana:

nebuchanezzar

03-05-2005, 05:44 AM

i switched back to the stock amd fan and ran the tests again, and its now stable 50-100mhz higher then when i first tried this chip! :eek: :banana:

Thats interesting...i've never seen a cpu burn inhelp but results speak for themselves

saaya

03-05-2005, 05:54 AM

i never saw one either, some of my chips rather oced worse and worse with time actually :lol:

but this one is simply amazing! i started with stock volts and then primed, and only increased vcore if it wasnt stable, and only increased bit by bit (0.025v)
then i primed at the highest stable setting for some hours and started all over again, stock vcore and 2400mhz, then worked my way up again.
ive done it 4 times already and i dont get much higher anymore, but i still see slight increasements after 4 times and around 2 days of benching/prime'ing

nebuchanezzar

03-05-2005, 06:05 AM

:toast: to Saaya's mutant CPU, may they all dream of being burnt :D

saaya

03-05-2005, 06:08 AM

sonja says thank you :D

WesM63

03-05-2005, 11:48 AM

Looking good Spork!

((Good to see you and SAE around, i havn't been around much myself. Maybe I should finish my NF4 system thats lying on the floor :eek: ))

Evil_Spork

03-05-2005, 11:51 AM

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8463603
24649 3D marks

213x9, x850 @ 564/648.. thats almost as much as i can get out of it. need more psu power.

saaya

03-05-2005, 02:26 PM

did you notice a burn in on your cpu?

Geforce4ti4200

03-05-2005, 05:18 PM

You really need more than 300w, have you gotten your 600w OCz psu yet? I dont know why your mobos only giving you 2.7v maybe you need a bios that can give higher? If not youll need to stick with your tccd but thats good stuff, it can do much higher fsb than bh5 at only slightly more lax timing. You already beat my 23.8k with my 9700, but I have a 25.8k with 9800p, gonna try for higher if I can get its clocks up. Good luck tweaking and beating me :D

saaya

03-05-2005, 05:20 PM

nah, im using a fortron 350W as well and its all good :cool:
but your videocard sux up a whole lot of watts dominic... guess you do need a better psu...

STEvil

03-05-2005, 08:07 PM

PSU quality matters tons.

Cant wait to see how much this thing sucks ;) :

ADA3000DIK4BI
CBBID 0451BPGW
1173828A50322

Evil_Spork

03-06-2005, 12:20 AM

PSU quality matters tons.

Cant wait to see how much this thing sucks ;) :

ADA3000DIK4BI
CBBID 0451BPGW
1173828A50322
yep... my 300watt is a PCP&C so it holds out. :cool:

GazC

03-06-2005, 04:30 AM

did you notice a burn in on your cpu?

I noticed that AMD use Shin-etsu on the inside of the heat spreader and it is known for taking some time to bed in. That may be the reason.

@ Evilspork, sorry for getting the steppings mixed up, my bad!

saaya

03-06-2005, 07:45 AM

I noticed that AMD use Shin-etsu on the inside of the heat spreader and it is known for taking some time to bed in. That may be the reason.

@ Evilspork, sorry for getting the steppings mixed up, my bad!

hmmm that makes sence... but actually ... then the temps would have changed under load, but they didnt... not even 1°C... the cpu just ocs higher, so i dont think it has to do with the shin etsu on the ihs :)

GazC

03-06-2005, 08:12 AM

hmmm that makes sence... but actually ... then the temps would have changed under load, but they didnt... not even 1°C... the cpu just ocs higher, so i dont think it has to do with the shin etsu on the ihs :)

Are you measuring temps with a probe? If not then don't even consider them, especially if you have an MSI k8N neo2 like mine that indicates 40 degrees even when the CPU is getting cooled by water just above freezing ;)

Evil_Spork

03-06-2005, 10:56 AM

i havnt seen a burning because im limited to under 215fsb(psu and maybe ram)

once i get a psu ill see.

saaya

03-06-2005, 11:19 AM

Are you measuring temps with a probe? If not then don't even consider them, especially if you have an MSI k8N neo2 like mine that indicates 40 degrees even when the CPU is getting cooled by water just above freezing ;)

dfi board and the temps are pretty accurate! i get 14°C idle temps with 14°C cool air wich sounds just abourt right, and 40°C load temps with the stock heatsink beeing around 30°C wich also sounds just about right :)

even if the temps would be too high, then they still would have changed if my burn in had to do with the termal glue amd is using on the ihs... from 40 idle to 39 idle or something.

i found out that my chip is a very nice termal scaling chip! :)
5°C lower load temps result in an at least 50mhz higher clock! stable of course, and with the same vcore! :)

hmmm sux to hear that dominic :(
i hope its not the ram...

Evil_Spork

03-06-2005, 12:35 PM

dfi board and the temps are pretty accurate! i get 14°C idle temps with 14°C cool air wich sounds just abourt right, and 40°C load temps with the stock heatsink beeing around 30°C wich also sounds just about right :)

even if the temps would be too high, then they still would have changed if my burn in had to do with the termal glue amd is using on the ihs... from 40 idle to 39 idle or something.

i found out that my chip is a very nice termal scaling chip! :)
5°C lower load temps result in an at least 50mhz higher clock! stable of course, and with the same vcore! :)

hmmm sux to hear that dominic :(
i hope its not the ram...
2.7vdimm max. i know this bh5 can do well over 260, it just needs more juice! :)

Evil_Spork

03-06-2005, 04:40 PM

update!

i broke 25k 01, but couldnt upload..... cpu speed variation error.

got bored with 01 and my psu limit so i played with other stuff!

heres what i have to show for it so far:
http://evilspork.net/es/comppics/screenshots/GCS0004.jpg

SAE

03-06-2005, 04:54 PM

Looking good Spork!

((Good to see you and SAE around, i havn't been around much myself. Maybe I should finish my NF4 system thats lying on the floor :eek: ))

Hey Wes! :D

My system is on its way to me now... only lacking the vid card now, but I think saaya will get it solved, eh saaya!? ;)

Go and finish you system, it will definitely shine :up:

@Evil_Spork

Hey mate. I think it's all about your weak psu....
with the ocz the rig's gonna PERFORM! :D I noticed a huge difference in stability going from my antec TC550 to the OCZ 520W PS! :up:

Evil_Spork

03-06-2005, 04:56 PM

Hey Wes! :D

My system is on its way to me now... only lacking the vid card now, but I think saaya will get it solved, eh saaya!? ;)

Go and finish you system, it will definitely shine :up:

@Evil_Spork

Hey mate. I think it's all about your weak psu....
with the ocz the rig's gonna PERFORM! :D I noticed a huge difference in stability going from my antec TC550 to the OCZ 520W PS! :up:
oh yeah.. this is all very ghetto! im kinda surprised this thing runs with this little psu. im getting an ocz600 as fast as humanly possible. if the order i have in at pcmicrostore doesnt com through then im ordering from newegg whos ETA on then is today.

SAE

03-06-2005, 05:01 PM

Thumbsup for ya. :up:
I also cannot way to get all my stuff... :D

b18_cya

03-06-2005, 05:06 PM

nice stuff

IvanAndreevich

03-06-2005, 05:50 PM

Why do you think your CPU is PSU limited? If the videocard can clock pretty high, and it's a 12V hogger, then in 2D when the videocard isn't drawing any power, the CPU should be able to receive it's share. A 3000+ Winnie only eats about 50W at stock.

Evil_Spork

03-06-2005, 05:52 PM

saaya

03-06-2005, 06:12 PM

you cant go above 2.86 vdimm? :confused:
iwhat happens if you select 3.2v?
tried the 5v jumper yet?

and a stock winnie 3500+ actually only draws 35W afaik! :eek:

STEvil

03-06-2005, 06:13 PM

only 4k ahead of my 9700 pro.. might have to try catching you soon with it just for fun :D

saaya

03-06-2005, 06:23 PM

soon? you better hurry id say :D

STEvil

03-06-2005, 06:34 PM

the mail will come eventually :D

Evil_Spork

03-06-2005, 06:44 PM

you cant go above 2.86 vdimm? :confused:
iwhat happens if you select 3.2v?
tried the 5v jumper yet?

and a stock winnie 3500+ actually only draws 35W afaik! :eek:
5v jumper wont boot at all. fans twitch and thats it. :rolleyes:

i can select higher vdimm but it reverts back to 2.6 in bios as soon as i hit enter.

in windows i get 2.68v... its odd.

STEvil

03-06-2005, 07:29 PM

tried setting 3.0v, or 2.9v? Unless you have your 3.3v rail set to ~3.5v it will revert to default voltage on post when you try setting above about .2v from your supply source.

saaya

03-06-2005, 08:25 PM

for the 5v jumper to work you need to raise vcore to anything but stock, did you do that?

Evil_Spork

03-06-2005, 10:40 PM

for the 5v jumper to work you need to raise vcore to anything but stock, did you do that?
no... *trys*

Geforce4ti4200

03-06-2005, 11:33 PM

"i broke 25k 01, but couldnt upload..... cpu speed variation error."

I never had that problem-ever on my a64. Did have it back on my xp2000 with nf2 mobo. I think your 300w psu is causing all sorts of problems, I know my old generic 400w did, I couldnt overclock or 3dmark would artifact than lock. With the new psu I never had problems ever! I wouldnt be supprised if your psu is reason why you cant raise the vdimm, not enough juice!

Evil_Spork

03-06-2005, 11:34 PM

no... *trys*

tried.. same result. :(

Evil_Spork

03-07-2005, 12:29 AM

well.. bios flash... helped a few things ;)

http://evilspork.net/es/comppics/screenshots/GCS0008.jpg

Geforce4ti4200

03-07-2005, 12:38 AM

I am gonna rest my eyes now, good luck with benching 3dmark 2001 now that you figured out how to raise your volts. No need for 480htt or anything, just run something like 250x10 1:1 ;)

Evil_Spork

03-07-2005, 01:30 AM

I am gonna rest my eyes now, good luck with benching 3dmark 2001 now that you figured out how to raise your volts. No need for 480htt or anything, just run something like 250x10 1:1 ;)
3000+, 9x max multi. heh

Geforce4ti4200

03-07-2005, 02:36 AM

310fsb with 8x multi and ram with 166 divider will get you 2.48GHz and ram at 248MHz. Itll be like a 10x multi and 1:1 you can do any fsb with 8x and 166 divider to emulate a 10x multi.

Evil_Spork

03-07-2005, 02:39 AM

310fsb with 8x multi and ram with 166 divider will get you 2.48GHz and ram at 248MHz. Itll be like a 10x multi and 1:1 you can do any fsb with 8x and 166 divider to emulate a 10x multi.
interesting idea.. ill try :)

Geforce4ti4200

03-07-2005, 02:49 AM

If you are still with your old psu, I am supprised you managed to clock so high, you couldnt hit 2GHz before! anyway give us some 3dmark scores soon, give me something to shoot for, to try to beat ;)

Evil_Spork

03-07-2005, 03:07 AM

If you are still with your old psu, I am supprised you managed to clock so high, you couldnt hit 2GHz before! anyway give us some 3dmark scores soon, give me something to shoot for, to try to beat ;)
im working on beating mricee actually.

ive got my tccd in and 475 is again going well but there seems to be a flaw with this bios/board using an LDT multi under 2.5... 2.5x works great to about 480ish, 475 is stable. 2x wont boot... what gives? :(

the psu is holding up pretty well!

edit: yall get on aim and msg me if you wanna chat while im tweaking. :)

Evil_Spork

03-07-2005, 04:11 AM

If you are still with your old psu, I am supprised you managed to clock so high, you couldnt hit 2GHz before! anyway give us some 3dmark scores soon, give me something to shoot for, to try to beat ;)
you want 3dmark... here ya go. :)

the blue junk is from the gpu clock being too high and getting a little too hot at teh end of nature.
http://www.evilspork.net/es/comppics/screenshots/GCS0011.jpg

Geforce4ti4200

03-07-2005, 06:59 AM

saaya

03-07-2005, 07:34 AM

wtf? ouch! how hot did it get? be carefull, those 6xxx vpus are very sensitive!

SAE

03-07-2005, 07:59 AM

wtf? ouch! how hot did it get? be carefull, those 6xxx vpus are very sensitive!
Hmm. I thought it's his x850xt!? :confused:

Evil_Spork

03-07-2005, 02:34 PM

Give me a published link of that score so I can see the game tests. Of course you got me in nature and maybe drag low too. I need just over 1k marks to beat you back. If this doesnt happen with this winny I have a Venice ill get once they come out and thatll do the trick ;)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8466587
there ya go. have at it!

wtf? ouch! how hot did it get? be carefull, those 6xxx vpus are very sensitive!
Hmm. I thought it's his x850xt!? :confused:
x850xt.

it was at about 55-60*c

its just from a lack of power to the card and too high mhz. 3mhz lower would have been fine.

saaya

03-07-2005, 03:36 PM

:doh: im thinking nv ever since i got this 6600gt all i see is 6xxx cards :D

im glad my x850xtpe is comming though, the iq of this 6600gt is horrable... almost volari/xabre style...

Geforce4ti4200

03-07-2005, 04:55 PM

"http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8466587
there ya go. have at it!"

Your cpu tests are very low, less than what I get at 2.1GHz but thats winxp for you :(
Of course I know you got a win2k partition, your just warming with winxp and once your new psu comes, youll go for the gold. I probably wont beat you without a Venice once you bench with win2k and your new psu

Evil_Spork

03-07-2005, 07:43 PM

Geforce4ti4200

03-08-2005, 01:13 AM

Evil_Spork

03-08-2005, 01:46 AM

Eshbach gave you a tweaked copy of win2k, youll score much higher with that. 30k is going to be VERY hard with winblowsXP, you will need 200MHz higher with winblowsXP to score what win2k delivers. I see you arent even at 27k yet. Yes youll probably still edge over me due to brute gpu power till I get a Venice ;) Anyway good luck getting higher, give me new scores to shoot for, your latest score is 26.8k
you keep saying "till i get a venice" like youre the only one whos getting one ;)

this winnie is going into an AGP a64 rig when i upgrade. :cool: by then i might have phase change too. so watch your back, im moving on up.

im curious how much more my vid card will do with the new psu.

Geforce4ti4200

03-08-2005, 01:50 AM

It wont be the same playing field anymore once you get phase change cause ill still be on air. Of course I wont be able to touch anyone with phase change. I wont be able to touch you either when you get Venice too except in car and lobbies. Would be nice to see what you can do on all air cooling for the time being :D

Visentinel

03-08-2005, 02:44 AM

ime curious as to why theres all those blueish streaks in that 3dmark picture.

isp

03-08-2005, 06:06 AM

curious geforce, can you tell me the OS tweaks for win2k? :) IE...What all doe's Eshbach's tweaked out win2k entail....;)

DildePer

03-08-2005, 06:11 AM

ime curious as to why theres all those blueish streaks in that 3dmark picture.

GFX card overheating a bit.

Evil_Spork

03-08-2005, 09:29 AM

GFX card overheating a bit.
i think it just needed more power. my gpu core was pretty low.

mad mikee

03-08-2005, 10:10 AM

1 piece fo hobby copper (sheet) + min 4 - 8 OCZ copper BGA or 4 'flower' sinks (don know if the taller ones fit on the back). Solder and torch.

Dremel out shape to match stock backplate and drill holes.
remove stickon stuff from back of Sinks, then clean everything and solder the sinks to new backplate. Cleanup and mount on back of vidcard. Add fannage as needed

Geforce4ti4200

03-08-2005, 01:01 PM

so spork when do you get your 600w psu?

Evil_Spork

03-08-2005, 10:28 PM

so spork when do you get your 600w psu?
as i said about 30 times, yesterday, then i saw it shipped monday, and fedex was ETA wed. but i got it today and its in! :D

Geforce4ti4200

03-08-2005, 11:08 PM

ok lets see what 3dmarkage you can get with that new psu of yours ;)

Evil_Spork

03-08-2005, 11:24 PM

ok lets see what 3dmarkage you can get with that new psu of yours ;)
ok ok ok ok ok !!! wait up!

Geforce4ti4200

03-09-2005, 12:15 AM

yea ill keep waiting for you to get better than that 26.8k score, by the time that happens ill have a venice and youll be playing catch up ;)

Evil_Spork

03-09-2005, 12:16 AM

yea ill keep waiting for you to get better than that 26.8k score, by the time that happens ill have a venice and youll be playing catch up ;)
if this format takes any longer you will!

win2k is installing now...

DildePer

03-09-2005, 12:47 AM

Is Win2k favorable over Win2k3 Server?

Evil_Spork

03-09-2005, 03:08 AM

Is Win2k favorable over Win2k3 Server?
no idea myself. im using a tweaked out version of 2K made by Eshbach. so far its good. :)

got down to 35sec superpi.

SAE

03-09-2005, 05:17 AM

no idea myself. im using a tweaked out version of 2K made by Eshbach. so far its good. :)

got down to 35sec superpi.

Where to get that version? :D

Please PM ;)

P.S. My FX and DFI got in, but I have severe problems with the special vid settings :( Vid card still not here, dunno if saaya released them from the duty's peeps... :(

isp

03-09-2005, 05:39 AM

Yah spork, yhpm. :D

Evil_Spork

03-10-2005, 01:02 AM

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8471510

woot! stock card, but clocked up my cpu and memory!

DildePer

03-10-2005, 01:57 AM

Nice...

Geforce4ti4200

03-10-2005, 02:44 PM

31217! you finally broke 31k I remember when you couldnt even break 27k, me and eshbach helped you including his tweaked win2k. I also helped you clock the cpu higher and eshbach helped you overclock the gpus ram timing! Nice 255 nature! Nice gpu overclock or rather its ram ;) Are you done yet? Not me, im gonna try for 24k with this 9700 and 27k if I can get my 9800p to obay me

[XC] leviathan18

03-10-2005, 04:20 PM

nice rig, i have a 3500 newcastle but an asus a8n sli i can't get stable over 240ht stock cooling.

if god wants i will switch to 3200 winnie ocz vx dfi ultra d and 6800gt i got now 2 6600gt scoring 6200pts 3dmark05 without oc in cpu, just vid cards

venice??? revission E with sse3??? i just want a nice oc system :(

XtremepH

03-10-2005, 07:54 PM

nice score @ stock evil_spork someone please send me an pm on the tweaked copy of w2k

Evil_Spork

03-10-2005, 09:38 PM

me and eshbach helped you including his tweaked win2k. I also helped you clock the cpu higher and eshbach helped you overclock the gpus ram timing!
you did? i thought you went to bed before i tweaked the rest of it :stick:

i know eshbach helped out a ton with his win2k and card timings(i helped a little in findin them! lol :p) major kudos to eshbach for his work. i gained a good chunk of points with his help. :)

Nice 255 nature! Nice gpu overclock or rather its ram ;)
the vid card is at stock speeds. no gpu or ram OCing on it at all. infact the gpu is slightly below stock. :rolleyes:

Are you done yet?
no way man! i havnt even played with OCing the card yet with the new radeon card timings! once i get that settled and get a real cooler on this cpu ill try both at once!

my next project is seeing what i can do with bh5, again with the vid card totaly stock clocks. :)

with any luck i can nab 32k with the bh5. :cool:

IvanAndreevich

03-11-2005, 09:59 AM

Nice score. Make 33K your lowly goal :)

Evil_Spork

03-11-2005, 10:01 AM

Nice score. Make 33K your lowly goal :)
with a stock card? :p:

ill try! not sure if i can do it but ill sure give it a shot!

in other news i think my highest stable speed is 9x292 might be as high as 9x294 :)

9x925.12 did crash once in 3d :(

SAE

03-11-2005, 11:33 AM

9x925.12 did crash once in 3d :(

Wow... godlike htt clocks... should be new WR ;)

Nice 3dmark score! :up: Keep on pushing, mate :toast:

Geforce4ti4200

03-11-2005, 01:36 PM

"9x925.12 did crash once in 3d"

you meant 295 LOL. dont worry about crashing if it happens occasionally, my 289x9 crashes once in a while but its stable enough to complete 3dmark most of the time. You will need all the cpu MHz you can get if your to achieve new 3dmark goals, especially with a stock gpu which will cost you a little in nature

Evil_Spork

03-11-2005, 11:06 PM

Wow... godlike htt clocks... should be new WR ;)

Nice 3dmark score! :up: Keep on pushing, mate :toast:
actually the WR is higher :(

520mhz by someone from XS i think.. i forgot who.. sorry!

eshbach

03-11-2005, 11:10 PM

actually the WR is higher :(

520mhz by someone from XS i think.. i forgot who.. sorry!

he's making a joke because you typed 925mhz...

cpu speed would be pretty wicked at 9x925 too...

anyway, good work on the scores, and good for my reputation :)

Evil_Spork

03-11-2005, 11:13 PM

he's making a joke because you typed 925mhz...

cpu speed would be pretty wicked at 9x925 too...

anyway, good work on the scores, and good for my reputation :)
lol... i feel kinda retarded now haha... ohwell.

that reputation youre building is deserved my friend :cool:

isp

03-11-2005, 11:15 PM

crank up the card clocks yet? ;)

Evil_Spork

03-11-2005, 11:22 PM

crank up the card clocks yet? ;)
nope.. its been too warm here to really have the rig turned on. with stock cooling and decent vcore the cpu got HOT and it wasnt that warm. with this heat i have had to just avoid using that comp :(

Evil_Spork

03-13-2005, 02:53 AM

played with my bh5.

initial results say i can bench at 280mhz 2-2-2-X with all a64 tweaker timings set very agressive.

tras testing with bh5... my results are here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=756902#post756902

IvanAndreevich

03-13-2005, 07:20 AM

OH yeah! That's some BH-5 goodness! Run '2001 with something resembling those BH-5 clocks and try to max your CPU out at the same time using a lower multi, a higher HTT and a different mem divider and it'll fly :)

Chr0n1c

03-13-2005, 08:09 AM

O_O thats some awesome BH-5.

Evil_Spork

03-13-2005, 11:49 AM

O_O thats some awesome BH-5.
i tried to sell it too!! but the deal fell through so sucks for him!!!

this is an unmatched pair though... ii still have to test my matched pair!

on a side note, my main barton rig just died. NTFS.sys is corrupt... *sigh* :(

Geforce4ti4200

03-13-2005, 02:53 PM

your barton didnt die, your OS became corrupted. try to boot in safe mode or do a system restore, if no go, u gotta reformat. as for your ram, 265 is nice, will this be enough to beat your score with TCCD's higher bandwith?

IvanAndreevich

03-13-2005, 03:49 PM

Geforce4ti4200
His post says he's running 280 5-2-2-2.. no TCCD can match that in '01.

Geforce4ti4200

03-13-2005, 04:38 PM

Evil_Spork

03-17-2005, 11:17 PM

Id like to see how far its 3dmark stable at. I can get to windows like 20MHz higher than what will complete 3dmark. If he can do even 265x10 1:1 with his bh5 then yes itll crush his tccd at ras-cas4, that much ill say

my bh5 at 280ish leaves me with lower cpu speed but the 3dmarks are nearly the same. i got close to 31k with that setting, where 9x295 got 31.2k

i think the bh5 score is a bit low actually.... any ideas?

Geforce4ti4200

03-17-2005, 11:56 PM

Evil_Spork

03-18-2005, 12:51 AM

280x9=2.52GHz vs. 295x9=2.65GHz so bh5 is 15MHz behind and 130MHz behind in cpu MHz yet very close, I think thats a VERY nice bh5 score. You could try 265x10 or 300+ with 8x multi and a divider to hit 2.65GHz cpu. Well a Venice 3200+ will be the perfect cpu for you, 280x10 with bh5 1:1 ;)
thts the idea.

as soon as i see them do well ill have a venice and a neo2 comming to me!

then ill have 2 A64 setups.

new bh5 tests: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=765322&posted=1#post765322