Arkangyl
02-11-2005, 05:32 PM
For those that saw my Centon thread know I'm looking for some quality ram to stick in my rig. Also to re-iterate, I'm a cheaparse, by that I dont be price is most important but I dont see myself spending an xtra $50 for 5-10mhz.
So here's what I'm sitting on;
a 3000+ Winny, 9X max multi; she's done 2.55ghz stock air for me (not quite stable though) but I'm thinking 2.7ghz when watercooler (quality WC'age, no lame kits). That leaves me with the following to chew on;
With the ram set @ 200mhz I'd be looking at DDR600, obviously I need good TCCD to swing this
if I set the RAM speed @ 166mhz then I think I'm looking at DDR490 which would be UTT territory.
This brings about Question #1; A64 ram dividers. As I understand them RAM speed is derrived from the CPU speed, NOT the FSB. That means with my stock speed of 1800mhz ram speeds are as follows;
DDR400 :: CPU / 9
DDR333 :: CPU / 11
DDR266 :: CPU / 14
DDR200 :: CPU / 18
Now if I lower the CPU multi from 9X to 8X does that change the dividers? It seems that the DDR400 aka 1:1 would stay the same else how do people swing high RAM speed with low CPU multis, what I'm not sure of is how this affects the other RAM dividers.
Sticking with a hopefull Speed of 2.7ghz, an 8X CPU multi lands me 338mhz 1:1 speeds. Considering my budget I'd doubt that I'd reach these speeds less TCCD gains some clocks with 3-4-4-8.
Now this is where the DDR333 divider has me, I'm really not sure what that divider would be giving me in terms of RAM speed, if it falls in the 250-270 territory I'd think the 2-2-2-5 of UTT would win out for me.
But some of thats just rambling. A few other questions I've got still need to be asked :p
~On one of the RAM lists Mushkin PC-3700 is listed as TCCD rev. "F", does the "F" mean its newer, faster, stronger or is it just for reference?
~The PQI PC-4000 2.5-3-3-7 is listed as TCCD + BP for $220 for a gig at the egg. Right now, pending what the "F" in the muskin means, I'm thinking this might take the cake for me. Anyone tried it? I haven't seen any threads bout it round here.
~ Is there any real reason why I'd want UTT? It seems that 280mhz+ 2.5-3-3-6 beats out the 2-2-2-5 timings of UTT unless I reach 260+mhz on the UTT. COnsidering with my multi's I'm looking at being able to place the TCCD somewhere in the 280-340mhz range it would strike me that TCCD wins hands down. Just want to be sure this is an accurate analysis.
SO thanks for reading, I'll take all the 2 cents I can get :toast:
So here's what I'm sitting on;
a 3000+ Winny, 9X max multi; she's done 2.55ghz stock air for me (not quite stable though) but I'm thinking 2.7ghz when watercooler (quality WC'age, no lame kits). That leaves me with the following to chew on;
With the ram set @ 200mhz I'd be looking at DDR600, obviously I need good TCCD to swing this
if I set the RAM speed @ 166mhz then I think I'm looking at DDR490 which would be UTT territory.
This brings about Question #1; A64 ram dividers. As I understand them RAM speed is derrived from the CPU speed, NOT the FSB. That means with my stock speed of 1800mhz ram speeds are as follows;
DDR400 :: CPU / 9
DDR333 :: CPU / 11
DDR266 :: CPU / 14
DDR200 :: CPU / 18
Now if I lower the CPU multi from 9X to 8X does that change the dividers? It seems that the DDR400 aka 1:1 would stay the same else how do people swing high RAM speed with low CPU multis, what I'm not sure of is how this affects the other RAM dividers.
Sticking with a hopefull Speed of 2.7ghz, an 8X CPU multi lands me 338mhz 1:1 speeds. Considering my budget I'd doubt that I'd reach these speeds less TCCD gains some clocks with 3-4-4-8.
Now this is where the DDR333 divider has me, I'm really not sure what that divider would be giving me in terms of RAM speed, if it falls in the 250-270 territory I'd think the 2-2-2-5 of UTT would win out for me.
But some of thats just rambling. A few other questions I've got still need to be asked :p
~On one of the RAM lists Mushkin PC-3700 is listed as TCCD rev. "F", does the "F" mean its newer, faster, stronger or is it just for reference?
~The PQI PC-4000 2.5-3-3-7 is listed as TCCD + BP for $220 for a gig at the egg. Right now, pending what the "F" in the muskin means, I'm thinking this might take the cake for me. Anyone tried it? I haven't seen any threads bout it round here.
~ Is there any real reason why I'd want UTT? It seems that 280mhz+ 2.5-3-3-6 beats out the 2-2-2-5 timings of UTT unless I reach 260+mhz on the UTT. COnsidering with my multi's I'm looking at being able to place the TCCD somewhere in the 280-340mhz range it would strike me that TCCD wins hands down. Just want to be sure this is an accurate analysis.
SO thanks for reading, I'll take all the 2 cents I can get :toast: