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Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 11:17 AM
all benchmarks have Digital camera version:
Let's see some actions:
Vdimm--->4v
pi 1m

http://img236.exs.cx/img236/9964/ddr587pi1m8iv.jpg

DC:

http://img236.exs.cx/img236/1889/ddr587pi1mdc4lr.jpg

bandwidth:

http://img236.exs.cx/img236/6306/bh5ddr5877pm.jpg

DC:

http://img236.exs.cx/img236/9908/bh5ddr587bwdc1dp.jpg


**not really maxout yet..:D

mcnbns
02-04-2005, 11:20 AM
That Super Pi looks a little high... some guy in the Xtreme Overclocking section got 27s with a winchester at 2991MHz... Aside from that small issue, very XTREME! :toast: :banana:

Bennah
02-04-2005, 11:21 AM
oh very nice...

how about 3d mark 01?

killingspreez
02-04-2005, 11:21 AM
not bad!
it seems that they really improved the chip!
i think 27xmhz were the maximum with the "old" chips right?!

mfg

kristos
02-04-2005, 11:22 AM
:slobber:

No matter what ram you use OPB, you get the best out if it every single time :toast:



PS: is this "new" BH-5 as in "new production twinMOS SpeedPremium ddr450"?

or just some new sticks for you? :)

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 11:23 AM
oh very nice...

how about 3d mark 01?


someone get me x850xt pe..:D

OPB

**by the way, I forgot to mention, it's running under win2k3 :p:

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 11:24 AM
:slobber:

No matter what ram you use OPB, you get the best out if it every single time :toast:



PS: is this "new" BH-5 as in "new production twinMOS SpeedPremium ddr450"?

or just some new sticks for you? :)


that's my very old mushkin pc3500 level II, and I took the heatspreaders out!;)

OPB

SlackeR
02-04-2005, 11:25 AM
not bad!
it seems that they really improved the chip!
i think 27xmhz were the maximum with the "old" chips right?!

mfg

These must be old BH-5 if that is what you mean..
I don't think anyone has the new stuff.
It is very possible, though, both Tom Haolck and CPULLOVERCLOCK has been past 300 2-2-2 afaik. And Bigtoe saw a great improvement in BH-5 oc on the DFI boards too.

edit: Too slow :p:

F|apDro|`
02-04-2005, 11:33 AM
Omg but still ... I :slobber: all over my desk


:banana4:

RocKer
02-04-2005, 11:47 AM
3.9vdimm :eek: thats quit xtreme OPB :thumbsup: .

I did 10x253 at 3.14vdimm(mm) on my dfi nf3 250,tonight i will see how far the will go at 9x or 8x.

I hope i get some lucky vibes from you :D ;) ,you have alot of them,nice x-files mem and nice old mem :ROTF: .

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 12:00 PM
These must be old BH-5 if that is what you mean..
I don't think anyone has the new stuff.
It is very possible, though, both Tom Haolck and CPULLOVERCLOCK has been past 300 2-2-2 afaik. And Bigtoe saw a great improvement in BH-5 oc on the DFI boards too.

edit: Too slow :p:


Ya, I know it's too slow..:D
will study more..:D


OPB

Holst
02-04-2005, 12:04 PM
Nice clocks mate, very nice :D

There are quite a few OS tweaks to get that SPI time down if you can be bothered..

But I would rather see some 3dmark01 runs myself :D :D

MaxxxRacer
02-04-2005, 12:07 PM
wow.. i almost shat myself. I havnt even gotten my tccd up to that speed yet, and your doing it with bh5... its a crackup that bh5 started out a pc2700 memory.

eva2000
02-04-2005, 12:09 PM
bandwidth probably hurting a bit due to Trc, Trfc and Max Async Latency settings ?

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 12:16 PM
bandwidth probably hurting a bit due to Trc, Trfc and Max Async Latency settings ?


thank you all experts here,

Eva2000, yes,
but when I try to give that better parameters, honestly, I can't run anything.
well, I think async latency is about right there. 290+ fdb is kinda hard to run 6ns or 7ns though. But trfc..I will check it out. thank you very much.;)

opb

Smy
02-04-2005, 12:23 PM
nice bh5 :D

eR1k
02-04-2005, 12:42 PM
That's just too fast :slobber: :slobber:

bachus_anonym
02-04-2005, 01:21 PM
Finally, 4V :D

That's what I was thinking about bandwidth too...

On Neo2/Winnie/Bh-5 I get efficiency of 91%/89% @ 272x10 but that's with 7-12... but I don't think you'd be able to tighten those timmings and still run same speed, though :(

Excellent work, regardless.... Would be nice to see some 3D action, too OPB ;)

QuadDamage
02-04-2005, 01:32 PM
not bad OPB. Let's see if you can beat Mr.Icee's 310 1:1 2-2-2-5 done on AN50-R/3200+ and OCZ ram:D

bachus_anonym
02-04-2005, 01:36 PM
not bad OPB. Let's see if you can beat Mr.Icee's 310 1:1 2-2-2-5 done on AN50-R/3200+ and OCZ ram:D
do you have any screnies of that? i so want to see it :)

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 01:51 PM
not bad OPB. Let's see if you can beat Mr.Icee's 310 1:1 2-2-2-5 done on AN50-R/3200+ and OCZ ram:D

Is that just screen capture or do pi and sandra? :confused:
If that's benchable..then I have no way to beat it by using only 4v.. :(

OPB

Noktar
02-04-2005, 01:54 PM
Very very nice score OPB !
I'm expacting more :)

Salkcin
02-04-2005, 02:02 PM
I just played with a pair of Mushkin LVL2 PC3500 (2x512MB) to, but that's on a Intel platform - they're maxed 43MHz below your results (DDR500 2-2-2-5 - 3,3v).... they are :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing insane your results!!

cpulloverclock
02-04-2005, 02:06 PM
OPB, u can try a memory bench and superpi with a winchester cpu?
to see if 293.6 is ok



thx

Zeus
02-04-2005, 02:33 PM
not bad OPB. Let's see if you can beat Mr.Icee's 310 1:1 2-2-2-5 done on AN50-R/3200+ and OCZ ram:D

Sorry to say but some time ago i dug up those screenie's and found that his screens were with ,5 multi's.

Off course back then nobody knew about that divider thing.

I think the RAM ran 283 or something if my memeory serves me right.

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 03:49 PM
so that's about 284 fsb for real.;)

s81o
02-04-2005, 04:00 PM
wtg OPB! :)

althes
02-04-2005, 04:50 PM
very nice

enok
02-04-2005, 05:01 PM
X.5 multi + single channel ;)

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 05:28 PM
X.5 multi + single channel ;)


my is 293.6x10 and dual channel too..:p:

P_1
02-04-2005, 06:22 PM
Congrats on your clock OPB. Any chance of gskill producing new bh5 ram on bp pcb? :slobber:

CrimeDog
02-04-2005, 06:25 PM
I saw 4v and knew it was gonna be good :D

OPB would you consider doing extreme bh5 vs tccd runs?

Benny Lodewijk
02-04-2005, 06:53 PM
AWESOME OPB !!!! :toast: :toast: :toast: real xxtreeemmeeee !!! :slobber: :slobber:

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 06:57 PM
I saw 4v and knew it was gonna be good :D

OPB would you consider doing extreme bh5 vs tccd runs?


for instance? :p:

P_1
02-04-2005, 08:32 PM
for instance? :p:
4v to the latest stepping tccd and 5V to the BH5 :D :eek:

CrimeDog
02-04-2005, 08:39 PM
lol nah, bh5 2-2-2-4 @ 293 vs tccd 2.5-4-3-8 @ 3xx

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 09:02 PM
p 1...you want my fx55 die in a second?:D

Crimedog..if so..I can honestly tell you know
Bh-5 will win in terms of 3d type bench
but for convert a DVD to avi or do some grahic thing like CAD/CAM..
I think 3xx tccd will win a bit.;)
If I am wrong please correct me.:)

P_1
02-04-2005, 09:08 PM
p 1...you want my fx55 die in a second?:D

Crimedog..if so..I can honestly tell you know
Bh-5 will win in terms of 3d type bench
but for convert a DVD to avi or do some grahic thing like CAD/CAM..
I think 3xx tccd will win a bit.;)
If I am wrong please correct me.:)
I doubt it will die under that cascade... :p:
And who can correct you :confused: almost no one can match ur crazy speeds to even test. :slobber: :stick:

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 09:12 PM
I doubt it will die under that cascade... :p:
And who can correct you :confused: almost no one can match ur crazy speeds to even test. :slobber: :stick:

sorry, a bit out of topic.. :p:

I mean that's my personal experience, certainly even everyone can correctme,if they has simliar experience as mine (converting the dvd, do enginerring graphic...)
so that shows I respect every friends here. :)

P_1
02-04-2005, 09:19 PM
sorry, a bit out of topic.. :p:

I mean that's my personal experience, certainly even everyone can correctme,if they has simliar experience as mine (converting the dvd, do enginerring graphic...)
so that shows I respect every friends here. :)
Well we're comparing high speeds and tight timings to higher speeds and slightly relaxed timings, i dont think many of us have the ram to be able to relate to your experiences. :D If people are overclocking to encode videos go to INTEL :ROTF: j/k j/k dont kill me :banana: :banana:

Cow2kie
02-04-2005, 09:20 PM
oops delete this post

CrimeDog
02-04-2005, 09:38 PM
thanks OPB that's what I wanted to know. :)

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 09:56 PM
no prob, you're welcome Crimedog!!:D

P 1, btw, that's on the Mach II chilly 1' mod,
cascade still not back yet.:D

Mag Master 21
02-04-2005, 10:05 PM
can you PLEASE do a lobby hi run with tccd v. this bh-5.. The gpu doesn't matter, as the numbers will tell the winner.. That would be awsome..

Onepagebook
02-04-2005, 10:41 PM
Mag.. I remember I did that before as macci's request!;)

here you go:

http://www.e04hardware.com/3500p90nm/macciask.jpg

result:

bh-5@ 273

http://www.e04hardware.com/3500p90nm/3dmk2k1ddr546bh5.jpg

TCCD@300, 2.5-3-3-6

http://www.e04hardware.com/3500p90nm/3dmk2k1ddr600tccd.jpg

metro.cl
02-05-2005, 02:39 AM
my is 293.6x10 and dual channel too..:p:


and you are using 512mb sticks


great fsb and scores.

p.d. i just sold my mushkin bh5

jmke
02-05-2005, 06:08 AM
impressive results!

all benchmarks have Digital camera version:

would love to hear the reasoning behind this, why the DC shots?

Gambit_2K
02-05-2005, 06:15 AM
impressive results!



would love to hear the reasoning behind this, why the DC shots?

Im guessing there harder to fake.

thelostrican
02-05-2005, 06:44 AM
cant wait to try my bh5 on the dfi... :eek: :slobber:

k|ngp|n
02-05-2005, 06:49 AM
Mag.. I remember I did that before as macci's request!;)

here you go:

http://www.e04hardware.com/3500p90nm/macciask.jpg

result:

bh-5@ 273

http://www.e04hardware.com/3500p90nm/3dmk2k1ddr546bh5.jpg

TCCD@300, 2.5-3-3-6

http://www.e04hardware.com/3500p90nm/3dmk2k1ddr600tccd.jpg

OPB, first off real nice bh5 clocks :toast:...are they 3d stable at that speed man? Those would be some nice system scores for sure. See what the highest is you can run them 3d...use anycard..it really doesnt matter.
.....Also I was wondering if you are running max A64 tweaks with the bh-5 that they are capable of in that compare with tccd using a64 tweaker?? For me, when bh5 is fully tweaked using a64 tweaker, there is at least 5-10 fps or more difference(depend on what your bh5 can do) between untweaked and tweaked lh scores. This is where the bh5 really outshines all other ram incapable of running full tweaks on a64 tweaker IMO.

Saliman
02-05-2005, 07:06 AM
nice job dude!

SIOUX
02-05-2005, 07:30 AM
wow...that is simly just amazing OPB:)

Rukee
02-05-2005, 07:42 AM
Wow, sweet! I wish my BH-5s would do that. :)

Psyche911
02-05-2005, 07:52 AM
Incredible.
I have that same RAM, but with my board and no DDR Booster I can only do 2.85v. My poor BH5. :(

Mag Master 21
02-05-2005, 08:13 AM
Mag.. I remember I did that before as macci's request!;)

Yeah, I remember seeing it, but I wanted to see how 293 would be

;)

Onepagebook
02-05-2005, 09:44 AM
Yeah, I remember seeing it, but I wanted to see how 293 would be

;)

honestly, 293 running under 4v would be probably unstable I think.:)

[XC] moddolicous
02-05-2005, 10:02 AM
How are you cooling the ram> Just an 80mm fan I guess. Nice job. BTW, do u think different/better BH-5 would allow you to make 300 2-2-2-5

JasonDTM
02-05-2005, 10:32 AM
^^^ 80mm Tornado or 120mm Papst I'm betting ;)

THunDA
02-05-2005, 10:52 AM
dam thats xtreme ;)

Great job..

OPPAINTER
02-05-2005, 11:17 AM
Ecxellent overclock OPB :toast:

Great job. What are lobbys like?


can you PLEASE do a lobby hi run with tccd v. this bh-5.. The gpu doesn't matter, as the numbers will tell the winner.. That would be awsome..

Mag, here is some VX at 2-2-2-5 doing 270Mhz. There is no way that TCCD will come close.

OPP

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24095&stc=1

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-05-2005, 11:33 AM
honestly, 293 running under 4v would be probably unstable I think.:)

:D Not really - because it's You and I bet You'll get it stable.

BTW FSB is not everything - how far can You push with a multi of 12, can You get more than 12 x 275 stable ?

:toast:

Onepagebook
02-05-2005, 12:10 PM
^^^ 80mm Tornado or 120mm Papst I'm betting ;)


80mm andtech cas fan :p:

HARDCORECLOCKER:
Bro, you're right, I got 12x277 run 3d01 for 39534 before..

kryptobs2000
02-05-2005, 12:25 PM
80mm andtech cas fan :p:

HARDCORECLOCKER:
Bro, you're right, I got 12x277 run 3d01 for 39534 before..

12x293 :toast: :slobber:

You think with a dfi nforce 4, my memory oc would improve over the dfi 250gb? Everyone seems to be doing better, but don't know if it's just cause they went dfi, or if it's really just the nforce 4.

Gamer
02-05-2005, 12:29 PM
nice OPB, going to try to beat you on NF3 : :D
http://users.pandora.be/gamer/BH-5/280.JPG
3.5v.

OPPAINTER
02-05-2005, 12:48 PM
Gamer, what memory is that?

OPP

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-05-2005, 02:00 PM
nice OPB, going to try to beat you on NF3 : :D

3.5v.

:D Nice work mate - now try to get Your avatar on A64.......... :p:

:toast:

trecca
02-05-2005, 03:04 PM
impressive :slobber: :banana:

P_1
02-05-2005, 04:47 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49234 :slobber:
give ur tccd 4v ! and show us some magic ddr 800 fsb@ 2-3-3-7? :stick: :toast:

Mag Master 21
02-05-2005, 06:12 PM
^^^ 80mm Tornado or 120mm Papst I'm betting ;)

LOL.. I've got a 92mm Tornado blowing on my bh5 at 270fsb.. :p:

Onepagebook
02-05-2005, 07:44 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49234 :slobber:
give ur tccd 4v ! and show us some magic ddr 800 fsb@ 2-3-3-7? :stick: :toast:


I got 2.95v on the LA 2x256 (I think I did post that the other day)
for DDR691 2.5-4-3-6, 9481mb/s bandwidth.:)
over 3.1v ...no go. :(

OPB

P_1
02-05-2005, 08:19 PM
9481 MB/s WOW :slobber:

Gamer
02-06-2005, 12:06 AM
Gamer, what memory is that?

OPP
Twinmos BH-5 (2x256mb).

MrIcee
02-06-2005, 04:30 AM
not bad OPB. Let's see if you can beat Mr.Icee's 310 1:1 2-2-2-5 done on AN50-R/3200+ and OCZ ram:D

Quad my old friend:)

Great to see you ! And while reading this I'm glad someone remembered that run I made with OCZ PC3500 Platinum LE back in December '03. I was reluctant to toot my own horn here, but that accomplishment can be found here (http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2003/78) and here (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/hall_of_fame/page2.html) . Granted it was single channel.

Hats off to OPB for pulling this feat off in dual channel with BH-5 ! :up:

And those are right about the 1/2 multi deal, we did not know that issue at that time.

Just be careful with 4v to your memory controller, extended time spent there will have you posting to C1 on a debug card;)

Randi:D

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-06-2005, 04:56 AM
Quad my old friend:)

Great to see you ! And while reading this I'm glad someone remembered that run I made with OCZ PC3500 Platinum LE back in December '03. I was reluctant to toot my own horn here, but that accomplishment can be found here (http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2003/78) and here (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/hall_of_fame/page2.html) . Granted it was single channel.

Hats off to OPB for pulling this feat off in dual channel with BH-5 ! :up:

And those are right about the 1/2 multi deal, we did not know that issue at that time.

Just be careful with 4v to your memory controller, extended time spent there will have you posting to C1 on a debug card;)

Randi:D

:D Just checking it with the booster, up to now I'm running BH-5 12 x 275 2-2-2-5 with 3,9 Vdimm for two weeks constantly without problems....

:toast:

P_1
02-06-2005, 05:42 AM
I got 2.95v on the LA 2x256 (I think I did post that the other day)
for DDR691 2.5-4-3-6, 9481mb/s bandwidth.:)
over 3.1v ...no go. :(

OPB
i was wondering, could u do ddr600 at 2-2-2-x with the tccd ? if u can do ddr691 at loose timings?

MrIcee
02-06-2005, 06:28 AM
:D Just checking it with the booster, up to now I'm running BH-5 12 x 275 2-2-2-5 with 3,9 Vdimm for two weeks constantly without problems....

:toast:

Just a friendly warning:) I too spent weeks at 3.8v and above, then one day you will not post, and the debug card will leave you at C1, "trying to detect memory". Believe me, I've been thru enough A64's in testing since their release to know, and the reason I discontinued buying OEM;)

Randi:D

Onepagebook
02-06-2005, 09:36 AM
p1 there is no way tccd can do 2-2-2-x 1t ddr600 , not even DDR500..weird huh?:D

Randi, yup I totally agree that..C1..:D

OPB

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-06-2005, 10:08 AM
Just a friendly warning:) I too spent weeks at 3.8v and above, then one day you will not post, and the debug card will leave you at C1, "trying to detect memory". Believe me, I've been thru enough A64's in testing since their release to know, and the reason I discontinued buying OEM;)

Randi:D

:D O.K. - thanks for advice - I'll only have to keep board alive a few days at that voltage, than getting my DFI NF4.

On that board I'll give my G.Skill 4800LA another chance to go over 300 1:1 with lower voltages.

:toast:

Onepagebook
02-06-2005, 10:14 AM
the right pair of the pic is what I used.
I took the heatspreaders out,
and all you can see here, mushkin use two different date code BH-5 IC to make a double side 256mb stick.(338wf and 334wf)

http://www.e04hardware.com/3500p90nm/ram.jpg

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-06-2005, 10:37 AM
the right pair of the pic is what I used.
I took the heatspreaders out,
and all you can see here, mushkin use two different date code BH-5 IC to make a double side 256mb stick.(338wf and 334wf)

:D I've always been a great fan of BH-5 and tried more than 50 different pairs on NF2 - almost all CORSAIR and MUSHKIN and I found out that CORSAIR always performed a little better. Also same experience now on NF3.

MUSHKIN:

http://img232.exs.cx/img232/3690/mushkin2757kx.jpg

CORSAIR:

http://img15.exs.cx/img15/1057/corsair2755ou.jpg

:toast:

Mag Master 21
02-06-2005, 12:08 PM
Just a friendly warning:) I too spent weeks at 3.8v and above, then one day you will not post, and the debug card will leave you at C1, "trying to detect memory". Believe me, I've been thru enough A64's in testing since their release to know, and the reason I discontinued buying OEM;)

Randi:D

It also could've been that AN50R..

perkam
02-06-2005, 12:23 PM
Hey opb thats undeniably xtreme stuff, though whats the highest you took your bh-5 on :

3.2v

3.4v and

3.6v

...for those that cant do 4v with their boards.

Thanks in advance.

Perkam

B5I8
02-06-2005, 01:02 PM
I would've thought that Sandra Memory benchmark would've been a little higher. Maybe it's just the 10x multiplier.

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-06-2005, 02:33 PM
I would've thought that Sandra Memory benchmark would've been a little higher. Maybe it's just the 10x multiplier.

:D That's the reason for sure - bandwith on A64 always depends on the CPU speed so a low multi decreases Your bandwith.

:toast:

Revv23
02-06-2005, 09:46 PM
Incredible.
I have that same RAM, but with my board and no DDR Booster I can only do 2.85v. My poor BH5. :(


i think you mean his poor BH-5, BH-5 continues to amaze me as far as how it handles voltage...

jmke
02-07-2005, 12:07 AM
Im guessing there harder to fake.

if you fake a benchmark results with photoshop and then take a digicam pic of it, why would it be harder to fake?

there is no reason for taking a digicam pic of the results imho, could only hide instabilities ;)

Littleluk
02-07-2005, 03:46 AM
239 ° CPU Temperature? Wtf?!

jmke
02-07-2005, 03:48 AM
DFI system monitor does not support sub zero temps:)

Onepagebook
02-07-2005, 09:59 AM
239 ° CPU Temperature? Wtf?!


ya, 256--->0c
then 239= -17c :p:

Onepagebook
02-07-2005, 10:03 AM
if you fake a benchmark results with photoshop and then take a digicam pic of it, why would it be harder to fake?




no, you can't do that AND take a digicam pic on it. becuase when you take your digicam pic for your results, you can see the task bar for how many types of application you are running . :p:

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-07-2005, 10:22 AM
:D Yep - so I never understood why people fake screenies - there is no sense in it, we are all here to help each other and to get better results, also for discussing problems and solving them so faking a screenie is like pissing in Your own pocket.

:toast:

jmke
02-07-2005, 11:24 AM
no, you can't do that AND take a digicam pic on it. becuase when you take your digicam pic for your results, you can see the task bar for how many types of application you are running . :p:

uhm.. Print screen + photoshop + view altered image full-screen, together with adjusted "task bar"

really.. there is NO need for digicam shots, they can be faked as well, saying that you include them to proof your shots are "real" is not needed :)

Dani
02-07-2005, 12:18 PM
OPB: what do you think about this mems with DFI nF4 in Dual?
Have you tested singlesided BH-5 with that mobo?

These mems on pic 2*256mb singlesided KHX3000 BH-5, did 273FSB 2-2-2-11 1T Dual 1:1 3.7V on DFI nF2 (SuperPi1M) :toast:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/Muut/Ykspuolinen%20KHX3000%20BH-5%20(Small).JPG

Onepagebook
02-07-2005, 02:01 PM
OPB: what do you think about this mems with DFI nF4 in Dual?
Have you tested singlesided BH-5 with that mobo?

These mems on pic 2*256mb singlesided KHX3000 BH-5, did 273FSB 2-2-2-11 1T Dual 1:1 3.7V on DFI nF2 (SuperPi1M) :toast:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/Muut/Ykspuolinen%20KHX3000%20BH-5%20(Small).JPG


Hi Dani,
"I think"(actually, this concept is from Oskar)
the only difference between single and double side ram in terms of performance tune up is that Dram drive strength.

If you have single side ram, go with odd numbers of level setting like 1,3,5,7
while you need to set it as even number like 2,4,6,8 if you have double side ram.:D

OPB

Ref
02-07-2005, 02:03 PM
no, you can't do that AND take a digicam pic on it. becuase when you take your digicam pic for your results, you can see the task bar for how many types of application you are running . :p:

You can do it, if you want.
And you don't have to do digicam shots, we trust you :toast:

Onepagebook
02-07-2005, 02:12 PM
You can do it, if you want.
And you don't have to do digicam shots, we trust you :toast:


Nah, I know you guys trust me, just show my sincerity to XS here. :)

Dani
02-07-2005, 02:13 PM
THX OPB, will try those mems someday with my brand new Ultra-D :toast:

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-07-2005, 02:18 PM
Hi Dani,
"I think"(actually, this concept is from Oskar)
the only difference between single and double side ram in terms of performance tune up is that Dram drive strength.

If you have single side ram, go with odd numbers of level setting like 1,3,5,7
while you need to set it as even number like 2,4,6,8 if you have double side ram. :D

OPB

:D THX OPB - You always suprise us again with something new - myself didn't know that....... :toast:

P_1
02-07-2005, 02:21 PM
Hi Dani,
"I think"(actually, this concept is from Oskar)
the only difference between single and double side ram in terms of performance tune up is that Dram drive strength.

If you have single side ram, go with odd numbers of level setting like 1,3,5,7
while you need to set it as even number like 2,4,6,8 if you have double side ram.:D

OPB
does this mean we dont have to worry about cpc if we set the dram drive strength right?

TEDY
02-07-2005, 02:21 PM
dani you mean DFI NF3 not DFI NF2 ? :D

Onepagebook
02-07-2005, 02:24 PM
:D THX OPB - You always suprise us again with something new - myself didn't know that....... :toast:


just wondering my bro,
you play those twtr and trtw setting see what happened? :D
try (twtr as 1, trtw as2 )compare with (twtr 2, trtw 3) ----> play with Sandra.;)

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-07-2005, 02:38 PM
just wondering my bro,
you play those twtr and trtw setting see what happened? :D
try (twtr as 1, trtw as2 )compare with (twtr 2, trtw 3) ----> play with Sandra.;)

:D Yep - will try, not much experienced it because all my RAMs are single sided 256 MB.......... :toast:

kryptobs2000
02-07-2005, 04:04 PM
If you have single side ram, go with odd numbers of level setting like 1,3,5,7
while you need to set it as even number like 2,4,6,8 if you have double side ram.:D

OPB

I got 2x512, so double sided, I always set my drive strength on my dfi 250gb to 1, so say I move it to 2, what would happen (I'm using my kv8 pro right now as my temp sensor on the dfi is crap so I can't test it). But would it allow me to clock higher or improve performance or what? Right now my max with 3.6v is 265mhz 99% stable, all timings as tight as normal tight timings go, 2-2-2-10-7-12...

jll
02-07-2005, 07:05 PM
Hi OPB, great score!!!! I'm impressed! :)

I have some doubts, nothing special.

I noticed that your Dram was 3.96v but the 3.3v line was just 3.39. When I raise my vdimm to about 3.5 I set my 3.3v line in the psu to 3.7, is this correct?

Now for example I have 3.5 on the psu and 3.3 on the ram, and the 4x256 modules dont even get warm (all Bh5)! :)

Best wishes

Jorge Lopes

P_1
02-07-2005, 07:50 PM
Hi OPB, great score!!!! I'm impressed! :)

I have some doubts, nothing special.

I noticed that your Dram was 3.96v but the 3.3v line was just 3.39. When I raise my vdimm to about 3.5 I set my 3.3v line in the psu to 3.7, is this correct?

Now for example I have 3.5 on the psu and 3.3 on the ram, and the 4x256 modules dont even get warm (all Bh5)! :)

Best wishes

Jorge Lopes

err hes using the 5v jumper on the dfi board, so the power to his vdimm is comming from the 5v rail

jll
02-07-2005, 11:30 PM
ok thanks!

Didn't know that! :slobber: Always learning! :)

Bye

QuadDamage
02-08-2005, 01:43 AM
Quad my old friend:)

Great to see you ! And while reading this I'm glad someone remembered that run I made with OCZ PC3500 Platinum LE back in December '03. I was reluctant to toot my own horn here, but that accomplishment can be found here (http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2003/78) and here (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/hall_of_fame/page2.html) . Granted it was single channel.

Hats off to OPB for pulling this feat off in dual channel with BH-5 ! :up:

And those are right about the 1/2 multi deal, we did not know that issue at that time.

Just be careful with 4v to your memory controller, extended time spent there will have you posting to C1 on a debug card;)

Randi:D

Randi:D,

Long time no see indeed. I thought you were running at 4x multi actually. But let's not forget it was over a year ago and no one at that time could come even close to your sandra scores:) Those days i could only do 10x267 6:5 on Giga ES mobo and that was more than enough to get AMD back to the top of the ORB in '01 after like two or three years of Intel benching dominance. I was scared to think what you could've done with your OCZ ram, Shuttle mobo and a well cooled vid card....

SAE
02-08-2005, 05:40 AM
Great clocks, congrats.

I really wonder what mine can do... I will get to know when I get my FX-55 (delaysdelaysdelays... ) :D DFI 's on the way, x850xtpe as well ;)

Dani
02-08-2005, 06:00 AM
dani you mean DFI NF3 not DFI NF2 ? :D
Nope, those mems do +270FSB with tights 1:1 on DFI nF2, DFI nF3 and hopeful on DFI nF4 too (shes coming tomorrow) :toast:

amv1981
02-08-2005, 07:01 AM
Just a friendly warning:) I too spent weeks at 3.8v and above, then one day you will not post, and the debug card will leave you at C1, "trying to detect memory". Believe me, I've been thru enough A64's in testing since their release to know, and the reason I discontinued buying OEM;)

Randi:D

so the Vdimm does effect the A64 chip?!!? Damn I did not now this I only thought it was hard on the actual mem only!!

What is considered safe V then for 24/7 use using air??


Currently I am running my BH-5@3.1

/A

bias_hjorth
02-08-2005, 07:10 AM
3.3v should keep you quite safe :)

kryptobs2000
02-08-2005, 07:13 AM
I run 3.5-3.6v 24/7 with a fan on the memory, but I can't testify whether it's safe, just that I do it anyways lol

amv1981
02-08-2005, 07:23 AM
Well I don't care bout the mem atm - I was just thinking about what mrIcee said about the mem controller on the actual cpu!

I know 3.1 won't hurt my mem - but what about my cpu??

cheers

/A

Onepagebook
02-08-2005, 08:13 AM
Great clocks, congrats.

I really wonder what mine can do... I will get to know when I get my FX-55 (delaysdelaysdelays... ) :D DFI 's on the way, x850xtpe as well ;)

haha I know your x850 xt pe is on the way though, I got one too.
hey, thanks to Saaya. :D :banana:

killingspreez
02-08-2005, 11:19 AM
i'd like to know, if 3,1 v would damage the cpu? i didn't notice anything till now :)

and btw! increasing the drive strength didn't change anything! i have the SAME sandra benches!

would should happen?

mfg

SAE
02-08-2005, 03:37 PM
haha I know your x850 xt pe is on the way though, I got one too.
hey, thanks to Saaya. :D :banana:
On the way?! Nicccce! :D

I hope I get it soon, so I can at least weigh it in my hands dreamin' of what could be with an FX :lol:

kryptobs2000
02-08-2005, 03:38 PM
well if 3.6v dosn't hurt my memory controller, I doubt 3.1v is risking anything

Onepagebook
02-08-2005, 04:58 PM
On the way?! Nicccce! :D

I hope I get it soon, so I can at least weigh it in my hands dreamin' of what could be with an FX :lol:

same here, will have that tommorrow though,
I will try it on BH-5 as high as I can. :p:

SAE
02-08-2005, 05:17 PM
same here, will have that tommorrow though,
I will try it on BH-5 as high as I can. :p:
Your 01 score will shine for sure!!! :thumbsup:

Onepagebook
02-09-2005, 03:23 PM
Your 01 score will shine for sure!!! :thumbsup:


Thanks Master:D

here is the first try with 286fsb(BH-5)x11, x850 xtpe all air-cooled with 3d2001;), how do you think? I really appreciate saaya told me that cheap x850xtpe..haha, and more importantly, it rocks.. :D
nothing tweak, it's on the win2k3
Here is the official score link:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8419743

http://img208.exs.cx/img208/2369/x850xtpe013rj.jpg

JNav89GT
02-09-2005, 03:31 PM
wow

SAE
02-09-2005, 03:36 PM
Great score for first run on air :thumbsup:

With a lil tweaking and higher card clocks (and higher Fx clocks under your cascade ;) ) you will definitely break 40k IMO. The hardware is able to do it as you are as well.

These fsb clocks on bh-5 make me even want my stuff more... :lol:

bachus_anonym
02-09-2005, 03:37 PM
Damn, OPB :slobber: :thumbsup:

Superb clocks there!

When you get a moment can you do me a huge favour and try to run SuperPi 16M unpatched on it, plizzzz ? I'm very curious if you can get it below 10m00s...

Thanx,

BTW, what voltage is that BH-5 at?

saaya
02-09-2005, 03:38 PM
haha I know your x850 xt pe is on the way though, I got one too.
hey, thanks to Saaya. :D :banana:

yes, i helped sae to get an x850xtpe as well :D
your welcome! im glad it clock that nicely and you enjoy it!
have fun with it :) :toast:

btw SAE, i got a confirmation for the fx55 you wanted, next week ;) hit me up on msn :D

I really appreciate saaya told me that cheap
your welcome :toast: get some nice numbers out of it! that memory should be able to do more, make sure you use a psu wire for it that is not plugged to any other devices to it gets a clean and interference free cable directly from the psu! maybe the card needs more fresh air? what air temp is it there? i have seen 6600gt cards with 1.6ns gddr3 from samsung that did 1340mhz totally stock with even no heatsink on the memory! :D

maybe the heatsink on this card actually makes the memory get even hotter? maybe the heat from the overclocked gpu is transfaired to the memeory by the heatsink? try to overclock the memory without overclocking the gpu and see if you can get a higher overclock! :)

madgamer
02-09-2005, 03:39 PM
Wow on that 3d mark 01 score. That and who needs your x-files ram when you have bh-5 that will do speeds like those in that shot above. 2-2-2-4 at that speed (and stable) is nuts.

saaya
02-09-2005, 03:46 PM
kevin, is 2-2-2-4 really faster than 2-2-2-5 or 10 or something else? or did you just use it because it looks good? :D

Revv23
02-09-2005, 04:21 PM
yes, i helped sae to get an x850xtpe as well :D
your welcome! im glad it clock that nicely and you enjoy it!
have fun with it :) :toast:

btw SAE, i got a confirmation for the fx55 you wanted, next week ;) hit me up on msn :D


your welcome :toast: get some nice numbers out of it! that memory should be able to do more, make sure you use a psu wire for it that is not plugged to any other devices to it gets a clean and interference free cable directly from the psu! maybe the card needs more fresh air? what air temp is it there? i have seen 6600gt cards with 1.6ns gddr3 from samsung that did 1340mhz totally stock with even no heatsink on the memory! :D

maybe the heatsink on this card actually makes the memory get even hotter? maybe the heat from the overclocked gpu is transfaired to the memeory by the heatsink? try to overclock the memory without overclocking the gpu and see if you can get a higher overclock! :)


perhaps the 6600 card has a higher stock voltage on memory?

Onepagebook
02-09-2005, 05:04 PM
Damn, OPB :slobber: :thumbsup:

Superb clocks there!

When you get a moment can you do me a huge favour and try to run SuperPi 16M unpatched on it, plizzzz ? I'm very curious if you can get it below 10m00s...

Thanx,

BTW, what voltage is that BH-5 at?

Hi dear Bachus..
If I am correct, it is 3.8v I think
I will find a time to run 16m no problem :)

SAE
02-10-2005, 07:20 AM
btw SAE, i got a confirmation for the fx55 you wanted, next week ;) hit me up on msn :D


Great! :D

I will see ya on MSN, you have not been online yet. :D (have to go to work this evening, coming back 10pm, mate).

Hmm, I am wondering about what you said about the 1.6ns mem... didn't nvidia gf5 and 6 cards always a load better on the memory than their ati opponents?

It may be a pcb layout problem. (BTW I think, he has not really started playing with it ;) )

HARDCORECLOCKER
02-10-2005, 07:28 AM
Great! :D

I will see ya on MSN, you have not been online yet. :D (have to go to work this evening, coming back 10pm, mate).

Hmm, I am wondering about what you said about the 1.6ns mem... didn't nvidia gf5 and 6 cards always a load better on the memory than their ati opponents?

It may be a pcb layout problem. (BTW I think, he has not really started playing with it ;) )

:D So at last You've been succesful with Your search - hope for a good clocker so.......... :toast:

Gamer
02-10-2005, 07:29 AM
hmm, thought you can do better than that OPB ?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8309330
all air too but tweaked :p

saaya
02-11-2005, 09:29 AM
perhaps the 6600 card has a higher stock voltage on memory?

would be surprised to see... maybe its the memory controller... we all know that memory ocs different on nf2 nf3/4 and 865/875 or 915 chipsets... so maybe the memory scales higher on the 6600 memory controller...

and yeah, maybe its also a pcb thing, good idear! the 6600s only have a 128bit memory bus wich means the design is much simpler and thus probably allows the chips to clock higher, just like different pcb designs for memory sticks. since its only 128bit they had more pcb space for the traces and could isolte them better or make them shorter...

i guess its a mix of all of this :)

its really nice to see a mid end card outperforming a super ultra high end card . at least when it comes to the memory clocks :P heheheh

:D So at last You've been succesful with Your search - hope for a good clocker so.......... :toast:

in the end he decided to not cancekl the order he already made for an fx55 and wait until that shop gets fx55 chips... so we will have to wait some weeks until we see SAE pulling some insane numbers again :( :D

hmm, thought you can do better than that OPB ?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8309330
all air too but tweaked :p

this was just his first test, he just checked how well the card clocked out of the box :P

[G.N.U.]Fragman
02-11-2005, 10:56 PM
anyone tried the OCZ pc4200EL (should be hynix chips) on the final DFI sli-D board?

Melchior
02-12-2005, 04:25 PM
very nice man!

i think because of you my overclock-madness will have a comeback ;)

just got to sell my 4gb of bh5 and buy some 256mb sticks and better stuff...


cya in hell :toast:

linhvndiy
02-12-2005, 10:53 PM
Hi! When you maxout your BH-5? Why dont you test with multi 11???Can not only 8k sisoft???

jan
02-13-2005, 02:22 PM
With this settings I booted into windows at 3.7 Volts.

I hope I can get some more mhz out of it with some more volts. :)
I am just waiting for the DFI-NF4 Ultra



http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24575&stc=1

Onepagebook
03-01-2005, 11:35 AM
With this settings I booted into windows at 3.7 Volts.

I hope I can get some more mhz out of it with some more volts. :)
I am just waiting for the DFI-NF4 Ultra



http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24575&stc=1


Any resesult from DFI ultr-D?

Ref
03-13-2005, 03:53 PM
OPB, what's your max. screen ? And max. sandra bench ?

boblemagnifique
03-14-2005, 05:56 AM
:toast: DFI / BH5 :banana:

2*256 ADATA BH5 (0313we) 2/7/12/2/2/5/2/2/1/2 , 3.9v :)
DFI NF4 ULTRA D
3200+ CBBHD 0447 TPEW
Box AMD (tower outside)

http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemagnifique/Overclocking/A64/cbbhd0447tpew/superpi28s2.PNG
http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemagnifique/Overclocking/Bh5/0313we2/295mhz.PNG
http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemagnifique/Overclocking/DFInf4/fsb504.png
http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemagnifique/Overclocking/A64/cbbhd0447tpew/winnie@3140mhz.PNG

funkflix
03-14-2005, 06:02 AM
Nice one! :toast:

Which bios do u use? U had any problems to get more then the 3,8V setting working on the DFI? I always get BSODs when i set it to 3,9V or above...

boblemagnifique
03-15-2005, 09:25 AM
Nice one! :toast:

Which bios do u use? U had any problems to get more then the 3,8V setting working on the DFI? I always get BSODs when i set it to 3,9V or above...

3.10 Modded -> FSB 504
2.18 -> for the remainder

my bh5 is stable 3.8/3.9v in bench but has 4v at home it is very unstable :rolleyes:

HARDCORECLOCKER
03-15-2005, 09:36 AM
3.10 Modded -> FSB 504
2.18 -> for the remainder

my bh5 is stable 3.8/3.9v in bench but has 4v at home it is very unstable :rolleyes:

:confused: Do You mean 3.10p ???

:toast:

boblemagnifique
03-15-2005, 09:46 AM
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/114

HARDCORECLOCKER
03-15-2005, 10:49 AM
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/114

:D THX, nice link - but again what do You mean with the mod version of 3.10, are You using the 3.10p (performance) ???

Or is it me, a little stupid....... :p:

:toast:

Onepagebook
03-15-2005, 10:53 AM
ya , I am also kinda lost, cuz what my post has 2 bios only, only 390-2 and 310-2.

jinu117
03-15-2005, 07:41 PM
Sigh... gave up trying to get to those... just got another pair of BH-5 512x2 and got it to 270 2-2-2-5 @ 3.8v... looking at how it curved, think max probably is around 275 4.0v... not going to risk it.... :P Time to work on divider and lower the volt... I am impressed at how this DFI is taking BH-5 into new startosphere. (all other settings on memory were stock other than 2225 part... I don't pretend to know all these memory settings... :P)

EMC2
03-15-2005, 08:13 PM
ya , I am also kinda lost, cuz what my post has 2 bios only, only 390-2 and 310-2.

The 310p is on DFI's beta BIOS site ;)