Building new Intel rig...

[freecableguy]

I will be posting pictures as I go along. I hope to have everything I need to get this bad-boy together by this weekend. The following is a brief list of the most important specifications:

Intel P4 LGA775 3.4EE ES, DFI 875P-T, 2x512MB Corsair XMS3500C2 v1.1 (BH-5), ATI X800 XT PE w/Artic Cooling Silencer 4, SB Audigy 2 ZS, Lian-Li PC-65B, VapoChill LightSpeed Rev.2, PCP&C 510 Express PSU

I will be heatsinking everything on the MB and sleeving all of the fans (for NB cooling). I hope to have a complete finished product by the evening of this coming Saturday. Any bets that I can reach 4.6Ghz with this baby? I hope this board can support some high FSB runs! 360x13 with a 3:2 memory divider, maybe? Hmm...

-kjb

[BigStan]

Awsome rig. Look forward to hearing how well it does!

[B5I8]

I honestly don't think you can hit 4.6GHz on a 3.4EE, a 560J or 570J would probably do it though. Extreme Editions don't usually clock that high compared to Prescotts, especially since you're on water.

[freecableguy]

Water? This rig will be PC.

[B5I8]

Ahh, now I see, you'll be running a Vapochill LS. Even with that, I honestly don't know if you'll reach your goal of 4.6GHz. Sorry to burst your bubble but the gallatin cores just do not clock as high as the precotts.

[SPL15]

I highly highly doubt 4.6 Ghz. I'm thinkin 4 to 4.1, 4.2 max.

it's hard to get all that cache to OC to high levels and that northwood/gallatin core usually gets 4.2 max on PC.

I'm not a big fan of the Emergency Edition P4. You can get better performance from a 4.5Ghz prescott in 95% of applications for less than half the cost.

I'll be interested in your results none the less. Happy OCing

[freecableguy]

I'm getting 4Ghz now with just TEC cooling. I really think at least 4.4Ghz is possible. I guess we will see soon.

[uclajd]

I highly highly doubt 4.6 Ghz. I'm thinkin 4 to 4.1, 4.2 max.

it's hard to get all that cache to OC to high levels and that northwood/gallatin core usually gets 4.2 max on PC.This reminds me of the Apples when the G3 first came out. The G3's cache dramatically helped performance, but it couldn't run 1:1 with the CPU. I think it shipped at 2:3, and there was a cache utility that could bump it up or down. Most would run at 3:4.

So my point is, I wonder if any such utility could be made for the Intel EE? :confused:

The theory being, at some point an EE which could clock as high as regular P4 cores go under phase (5GHZ+) with a cache running 3:4 might be worth it? Probably impossible, but curious.

[B5I8]

Well I'm rooting for ya :toast:. I hope you do pull it off regardless of what I think. That would make victory all the more sweeter.

[Xassius]

I reckon 4.4Ghz is quite feasible. - did it with a Vapo LS (modded) + 3.2EE Stk478

[masterofpuppets]

To all the people who say that EE's suck at o/c'ing: Have you even tried to overclock one yourself?

[SPL15]

To all the people who say that EE's suck at o/c'ing: Have you even tried to overclock one yourself?


Actually yes I have. I got 4.03Ghz with a 3.2EE on stock mach I, which didnt outperform my 3.2C at 4.2 Ghz in just about all apps and benchmarks

How many 4.4 Ghz EE's have you heard about? I havent heard of any till now. the fab process has improved since I had my EE and 4.4Ghz may be easier to get with more CPUs that come off the wafer.

Who knows. If he's gettin 4ghz on a pelt, he may just be able to do it. The power consumption is less than a prescott so I dont think motherboard limitations would be a factor here.

I'm still rootin for him though. Just cause others say it's not likely to happen doesnt mean it wont. Technology wouldnt advance if people never tried things that weren't likely to succeed. This is the bases of what makes my job as an electronics engineer so much fun.

[masterofpuppets]

I could get my 3.4ee to 4.5GhZ on a stock Mach II stable and 3.8 stable on stock cooling and volts. You can't say that EE's are sucky clockers just because your one was.

[SPL15]

I could get my 3.4ee to 4.5GhZ on a stock Mach II stable and 3.8 stable on stock cooling and volts. You can't say that EE's are sucky clockers just because your one was.


I never said they were sucky OCers. I think 4.2 Ghz is pretty dang respectable for the 130nm process. I got 4.2Ghx with a 3.2C and thought that was a dang good overclock. I think 4ghz is respectable for an EE considering all that cache.

Now I did say I wasnt impressed with the EE as a whole because of price performance ratio and previous experiance from myself and reading otherpeople's overclocks. If it's being found out that the newer EE's OC to 4.5Ghz or more.... Well I'll be on Newegg.com buying one two seconds later you can gaurentee that.

[masterofpuppets]

4.5 or more!? My EE has done 4.8 stable (for almost 24 hours), almost anything (within reason :P) is possible with the right temperatures, mobo, and patience. But it really depends on your individual chip, I have seen some terrible EE's before.

[B5I8]

I think you ppl are misunderstanding what I said. I simply said that they do not scale as high as prescott's. The EE's still oc quite nicely, just not as high the prescott's seem to be doing.

[masterofpuppets]

Yeah so Prescotts can clock better, but an EE at 4.5 would easily beat a Prescott probably at 5GhZ, or maybe 4.8. Prescotts have disgustingly ineffecient architecture.

[B5I8]

Yeah so Prescotts can clock better, but an EE at 4.5 would easily beat a Prescott probably at 5GhZ, or maybe 4.8. Prescotts have disgustingly ineffecient architecture.
Actually P4's in general have "inefficient architecture". Just look at how the the Pentium M's compare. Intel should turn the Pentium M's into desktop processors.

[SPL15]

Actually P4's in general have "inefficient architecture". Just look at how the the Pentium M's compare. Intel should turn the Pentium M's into desktop processors.


I agree 100%. Look at AMD also. Kinda funny how a 3.3Ghz FX-55 can whup a 4.5Ghz P4E in most apps and benches. hopefully this situation turns around with the new stuff.

Could you imagine a 4.5 Ghz FX-55?!? or even a 4.5 Ghz Athlon XP? what about a 4.5 Ghz Pentium M?

[i found nemo]

I agree 100%. Look at AMD also. Kinda funny how a 3.3Ghz FX-55 can whup a 4.5Ghz P4E in most apps and benches. hopefully this situation turns around with the new stuff.

Could you imagine a 4.5 Ghz FX-55?!? or even a 4.5 Ghz Athlon XP? what about a 4.5 Ghz Pentium M?


totally agree, i think the pentium M would win that one... :p:

[Playful_Buffalo]

^ only with some changes in the RAM and AGP department ;)

Read: Sonama

[freecableguy]

http://home.comcast.net/~kjboughton/3.4EE_ES.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~kjboughton/DFI_875P_T.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~kjboughton/DRIVES.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~kjboughton/MB_CPU_RAM.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~kjboughton/MB_CPU_RAM_2.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~kjboughton/MONEY.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~kjboughton/PSU.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~kjboughton/SB.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~kjboughton/X800XTPE.JPG

[SPL15]

Sooo.... Results man!! what did you get for an OC??

[freecableguy]

Still building....taking my time. Want this one to come out perfect. Should have first results by Monday night. Hang in there. :)

[SPL15]

Still building....taking my time. Want this one to come out perfect. Should have first results by Monday night. Hang in there. :)


NOW THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR!!!!!!

I'm gald you arent rushing the job!! Nothing I cant stand more than good products/Ideas executed poorly. Take your time and things always go better (unless your dealing with a clueless Vice president :D )

I'd like to know your VCore drop/Variation when you get a chance. I'm wondering how much that extra phase is helping on that board.

[freecableguy]

Gonna be at least one more day. I am still working on the case. It is making quick work of my Dremel battery and I have to wait for it to re-charge. Just about everything else is ready to go. I think I will need some more fans though...