6600gt and 3dmark

[Snowman89]

im wondering how much a singel card will hit in 3dmark03 and 05 with a a64 3200+ winnie?
and what air cooling is the best to it?

[Crankster]

Look at the orb yourself www.futuremark.com
That seems to be the easiest way ;)

[Snowman89]

Look at the orb yourself www.futuremark.com
That seems to be the easiest way ;)
yeah know tryed that but little hard to find out what a stock 6600gt card can get because all the top cards are SLI

[r3b0rN]

Well with my
Albatron @ stock - 500 Core / 900 Mem.
Athlon XP Barton @ 200x11
2x512MB RAM @ 1:1/200MHz, 2.5-3-3-8.
I get 7,517 points in 3DMark03

[Snowman89]

Well with my
Albatron @ stock - 500 Core / 900 Mem.
Athlon XP Barton @ 200x11
2x512MB RAM @ 1:1/200MHz, 2.5-3-3-8.
I get 7,517 points in 3DMark03
how much do you get when ocing?
and in what clock?

[Damien]

With my intel @ 3.9ghz and my 6600GT @ 550/1.1, i think I got around 89xx in 03

[-dr-]

mine got 9170 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3570850)3dmark03 with 560/1150...

[enzoR]

you have 1.6ns ram?

[-dr-]

nope, it`s 2.0ns ram... the standard winfast PX6600GT TDH (not the overclock edition )...

[DoGMaN]

3500+ stock XFX 6600GT 607/1.2 Stock cooling 2.0ns ram unmodded
9823 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3595758) in 03 and 4123 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=487711) in 05

3200+ @ 2.7GHz 10089 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3597108)

[Snowman89]

im gonna but the leadtek extreme pci e card, that is 550/1120 stock and with 1.6ns memory and hoping to take at least 10k, how can 2x6600gt hit 22k and 1 card has hard time hitting 10k?

edit: dunno what i looked at saw that the highest 6600gt score was 17k

[enzoR]

maybe their was a buged score when you first looked.

[neuvas]

Well mine running a
-3000+ @ 290x9
-1gb adatas running 290 3-5-5-11
-galaxy 6600gt 600/1200

10k on 2003
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3575369

4.1k on 2005
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=470089

[Snowman89]

Well mine running a
-3000+ @ 290x9
-1gb adatas running 290 3-5-5-11
-galaxy 6600gt 600/1200

10k on 2003
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3575369

4.1k on 2005
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=470089
how does pci E perform vs AGP?
better?

[zakelwe]

how does pci E perform vs AGP?
better?

good question

How does AGP nforce3 compare to nforce4 PCIe clock for clock ?

Regards

Andy

[Cyrus The Virus]

I got:

AMD Athlon64 3200+ @2800 (1,584V stressed 45°) (My Record 2951Mhz)
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
Corsair Twinx PC3200LLPT BH-5 2x256 @233MHZ (2-2-2-5-1T)
Leadtek PX6600GT TDH 128MB GDDR3 (585/1200)

3DMark 2k1: 24936
3DMark 2k3:9721
3DMark 2k5:4005

on stock cooling soon coming Zalman cooler VF700-cu

[zakelwe]

My order still says

1 estimated shipping on 20050112


Great :rolleyes:

The Norwegian site says however

2 stk på lager

which I can only think says "In stock".

I can only say that what the Vikings did to us in the dark ages I will do 4 fold nowadays to Norway if my fecking gt6600 does not get here soon :mad:

Regards

Andy

[r3b0rN]

haha.

snowman, havnt overclocked it yet, might soon.

[pinto]

Leadtek 6600GT Extreme watercooled

http://img146.exs.cx/img146/4092/3Dmark200310635.jpg

http://img146.exs.cx/img146/1114/3Dmark054722.jpg

[neuvas]

thats insane..

can handle 1.3Ghz memory? wow...

[LardArse]

Gainward 6600GT @ 658/1375 with a CPU HSF strapped on and a bit of penciling ;)

http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/6600gt/10689.JPG

Aircooled rig 4G prescott
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/6600gt/testrig.JPG

[WesM63]

Nice Landarse!!

What do you mean by "penciling"?

This makes me want to strap the Maze4 on this thing.

[enzoR]

he means pencil vmod.

[enzoR]

LardArse, is that the GS GLH with 1.6ns?

[zakelwe]

That the same vmod as the 6800U you did for vr-zone ?

Very nice memory score. :toast:

Regards

Andy

[LardArse]

LardArse, is that the GS GLH with 1.6ns?

Yep, as a matter of fact I only did the GPU Vmod. (http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=1636&s=1)
I think the card can't feed enough power to the core after a point, after 1.7v it gives the exact same overclock.

[zakelwe]

Nice read Shamino.

I wonder if increasing the voltage on the gpu also increases the voltage on the memory as your memory increased with increasing gpu voltage, did you measure to see if it stayed at 1.9-2v or whatever Samsung is recommending nowadays ?

Regards

Andy

[Snowman89]

nice lardarse, but im looking at the scores and it seemes as after a clock the score dont increase so much

edit: isnt the 05 clock a bit low?
i think i saw a 6600gt stock score 4xxx

[enzoR]

Nice read Shamino.

I wonder if increasing the voltage on the gpu also increases the voltage on the memory as your memory increased with increasing gpu voltage, did you measure to see if it stayed at 1.9-2v or whatever Samsung is recommending nowadays ?

Regards

Andy


maybe the ram is being held back by the core's mem controller?

do these GS, GLH's also come in AGP version? if they do thats my next card. they got a powerconnector so that should take care of power issues :D

[zakelwe]

maybe the ram is being held back by the core's mem controller?

do these GS, GLH's also come in AGP version? if they do thats my next card. they got a powerconnector so that should take care of power issues :D

They do indeed, though if you come from the UK then Komplett will backorder it for you, if you are in Norway they'll send it out that day :rolleyes: . Although they are the same company the norwegian lot always get the stuff first ( wonder why... ). Ohh, you've set me off now, I'm ranting.

Mine still says estimated shipping 12th Jan arggh !

Regards

Andy

[LardArse]

nice lardarse, but im looking at the scores and it seemes as after a clock the score dont increase so much

edit: isnt the 05 clock a bit low?
i think i saw a 6600gt stock score 4xxx

Yeah I wonder why? I only did 1 05 run and just took that score.

[Snowman89]

Yeah I wonder why? I only did 1 05 run and just took that score.
is it at stock?

[Bennah]

Ive been thinking about getting some of these Gainward GS GLH 6600gt for a bit now... just finding a place with them in stock.

[xs64]

Having 2 GW 6600GT GLH here but i have no NF4 mobo :D

[enzoR]

Yeah I wonder why? I only did 1 05 run and just took that score.

is that score posted in this thread? i cant see it :stick:

[Supertim0r]

someone know the MSI 6600GT agp8x memory ? (1.6ns / 2ns) ??

[xs64]

someone know the MSI 6600GT agp8x memory ? (1.6ns / 2ns) ??
As far as i know , MSI 6600GT AGP8X using 2.0ns :p:

PS : Gainward makes great job here because they shows the mem on box :D , not like the others makes we confuse :p:

[enzoR]

its supposed to have 2.0ns

[Snowman89]

is that score posted in this thread? i cant see it :stick:
yeah know, i saw it but he must have removed it

[perry_78]

The MSI cards have 2.0ns ram.

[perry_78]

I just ordered a Gainward 1960PX XP GS GLH "6565". I think this card will do much better than my current MSI which tops out at 550/1150.

Considering my Gainward 6800GT G/S did 440/1180 100% stable i have little doubt that it is THE mainstream card.

They can be had in the "www.gainward.de" online shop for €199, which is great price considering i paid the same for my lousy MSI :(

[enzoR]

it tops out at 550 without vmod? that gainward will also top out before 600 but the 1.6ns will make it fly past 1250.

[perry_78]

The gainward should do better, and my loss on selling the old card and buying a new card was $10.

Enough to make me go Gainward :D

[Snowman89]

read a review on the leadtek 6600gt extreme, it topped out at 590/1340 stock cooling and nothing on the memory

[xs64]

So which is the best ? 6600GT Gainward GS GLH or Leadtek Extreme Edition ?

[Snowman89]

So which is the best ? 6600GT Gainward GS GLH or Leadtek Extreme Edition ?
the gainward is much more expensive here in sweden about 80dollar so im going for the leadtek, but the gainward has better cooling but i dont htink it is worth 80 more for that

[perry_78]

The gainward is €200 of gainward.de webshop. That's around the same price as the leadtek extreme ;)

[Snowman89]

The gainward is €200 of gainward.de webshop. That's around the same price as the leadtek extreme ;)
ohh, then i would go for the gainward because the extra cooling but at the same time i would chose the leadtek because i can put whatever i want to cool the memory

[xs64]

I have not tested the Gainward Vid yet but i saw the Gainward's cooling is not better than the Leadtek anymore , so buying the Leadtek is good

[Snowman89]

I have not tested the Gainward Vid yet but i saw the Gainward's cooling is not better than the Leadtek anymore , so buying the Leadtek is good
ohh i thought that the leadtek cooling looks very crappy, does any NV silencer fit?

[enzoR]

screw the cooling i dont care about that i'll be mounting my Dice tube on it :D

[DoGMaN]

Dice tube???

[BeSaiD]

my Club3D 6600GT AGP8x does on a 3000+@2500 and a DFI LP UT 9100+ points, 588 core and 1190 mem, stock cooling.

It gets really hot!

[r3b0rN]

Dice tube???
dry ice tube.

[Godmyster]

What do u guys think of the Albatron 6600GT? would the MSI be better??

[Snowman89]

What do u guys think of the Albatron 6600GT? would the MSI be better??
think they both have 2ns ram so go for best price.
whats the WR with 6600gt with a singel card?

[Godmyster]

Ok what about overall of all the 6600GT witch would be the best?

[enzoR]

they are all reference design PCB so they are basically all the same. the best ones would be the ASUS top limited edition Gainward GS GLH, Leadtek limited edition as they use 1.6ns rams

[zakelwe]

My MSI 6600 Diamond arrived today, that is the 6600 with the 2ns GDDR3 memory. I bought this after giving up on the Gainward after waiting since November for it ( I might try again and get it from them direct at some point ).

It's more expensive than the 6600 but cheaper than MSI's own 6600GT by about 15Euro or so ( £10 or $18 ) and you get a game called Rid:banana::banana::banana::banana: thrown in which seems like it might be slightly better than the normal free games apart from Doom3 or HL2.

Things were looking up when I ran nvidia 66.93 drivers and Rivatuner as they report it as a 6600GT .. as does futuremark !!

So the core on the 6600 is just the same as the 6600GT which was always my thoughts anyhow, so if you want a 6600GT and save a few ££ and have a game then the Diamond might be the thing for you. Strangely it came clocked at 400/600 so that is the lowest 2ns memory speed I have ever seen, 60% of standard ! Just done a first run at 400/800 in new 3dmark03 and on the first page ( due to not many people having run it yet :D ). Still testing at present of course.

If I can get the Gainward then this will make a good games machine card or backup.

Regards

Andy

PS Can't run 3dmark2001 my DX8 Win 2000 hard drive failed overnight .. sob sob, have to run 03 and 05.

[zakelwe]

Oh honestly that's PC gone mad ..

the game is Ridd i c k !

:D

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

I managed a 9600 at 580/1100

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3635840

Almost certainly the memory is good for 1200 with those stupid thermal pads ripped off and the cpu 650Mhz with volt mod and better heatsink. Still 1000 behind old Lardy with his Gainward though, that is such a nice score with air cooling. :toast:

Well, my Win2k hard drive is ok as I put the MX 4000 in there and she booted to desktop, put the MSI 6600 in and gives screen corruption during the load and then hangs. Very strange. The MSi works well in XP so am doing 2001 in XP and have just got a 19700. Only 10 000 more point to get the #1 :D

Oh yes, I luv a challenge.

Mummy, please help :(

Regards

Andy

[Crow]

anytime your ready to give that 6600 up, I'll take it :p

Good luck in trying to get the #1 spot, gonna be a tuff one though :)

[Geforce4ti4200]

"The MSi works well in XP so am doing 2001 in XP and have just got a 19700. Only 10 000 more point to get the #1 "


isnt first place 28k for a 6600gt? This shows the 6600gt is better than a fx5700u and much better than a ti4200. somethings wrong if you cant crush your fx5700u, publish the score and link me

[Fr3ak]

Thanks Juliette for the Gainward.de shop tipp ;D I am going to send my Asus N66ooGT back because it is not the 1.6ns mem and 550Mhz GPU version they claimed it to be when I preorderd ;/ Will get a Gainward GLH now instead. Nice to know that it is 60€ cheaper from Gainward themselves than in online shops :)

[zakelwe]

"The MSi works well in XP so am doing 2001 in XP and have just got a 19700. Only 10 000 more point to get the #1 "


isnt first place 28k for a 6600gt? This shows the 6600gt is better than a fx5700u and much better than a ti4200. somethings wrong if you cant crush your fx5700u, publish the score and link me

Well I was not watching the runs and the dan thing was doing freeze release on me, not sure why, possibly either getting too hot on stock cooler or it's because it behaves like the 6800 when fast writes is turned on. Managed to get up to 24.500 before deciding to stopo before I was tempted to take it apart. I need this card for my gaming rig because my gaming rig only has an MX4000 in it at present as all other cards have been modded. I have ordered the Gainward again and will see if it turns up, if that is a good card then I will mod that one.

Regards

Andy

[Geforce4ti4200]

see if you can publish that 24.5k score with your 6600gt, its a nice score for no vmods ;) as for "freeze release" is it when it locks up for several seconds then unlocks like nothing happened? I get that on every nvidia card I had and on this softmodded 9500 but for some reason it doesnt happen anymore so now I can clock the core to 410(up from 350) One thing I like about ati cards is they tend to artifact when clocked too high instead of "freeze release" Nvidia cards dont really show artifacts except for black dots when I test its overclock using point sprites but in game tests it stutters, could be too hot and/or clocked too high. when im done benching this 9500np I will give my ti4200 and ti4800se another go but I wont touch you till I get a Venice then 22k will be my goal unless you get to it first with that fx55 at near 3GHz then youd probably be on a fx57 by the time I have venice, if you still have an agp mobo id not come close to you. Everytime I manage to beat scores you set months back you beat me again :D I remember your first 18.8k you had with 3200+ claw, dont you? It took me a 3200+ castle to get 19.3k, my first 2800+ got me 18.3k but a 3200+ was like $300+ back when I got my 2800+ yea I know im cheap but I also got patience, in this case ill wait for Venice then one of those will hopefully compete with your fx55 and ti4800se score. I do need to vmod that gpu, I plan to use fix resistors, what ohm can I use for core/ram?

[zakelwe]

Yes, patience is a virtue certainly. I'm not sure what the resistence was for the GF4 as I used variable , when I do the run tonight to post the 6600GT score I'll try to remember to measure them for you. I seem to remember you have a good gpu core clock without mod so that looks very promising for you in future.

Interestingly the FX 5700U which uses the IBM made chip does show gpu aftifacts close to lock up point. These artifacts are flashes of colour that get worse and worse as you get closer to the limit. These are quite big flashes and will take out the entire window in 2001 nature or the turtles back in 03. Then large blocks of the screen go black almost like memory artifacts and then lock up. I run it just with the merest hint of colour flashes as I know it is perfectly safe and I can concentrate on the cpu/RAM

You are correct though, other nvidia show little sign before failing.

As both 5700U and 6600GT get about 24k it'll be interesting to compare.

Regards
Andy

[perry_78]

Thanks Juliette for the Gainward.de shop tipp ;D I am going to send my Asus N66ooGT back because it is not the 1.6ns mem and 550Mhz GPU version they claimed it to be when I preorderd ;/ Will get a Gainward GLH now instead. Nice to know that it is 60€ cheaper from Gainward themselves than in online shops :)

Just like to say that Gainwards support is pretty shaky. On the other hand, afte multiple emails, they do reply decently apologizing, and all products are sent quickly. Mine is in the mail less than 1 week after order. For €200 for a G/S GLH card I'll happily put up with it ;) The leadtek was the same price though :|

[Jamo]

has anyone had experience with a gigabyte 6600gt? as theres a very good deal on them (£108) just wondered why they were so cheap as my friend is considering getting one

thanks

[Snowman89]

Yes, patience is a virtue certainly. I'm not sure what the resistence was for the GF4 as I used variable , when I do the run tonight to post the 6600GT score I'll try to remember to measure them for you. I seem to remember you have a good gpu core clock without mod so that looks very promising for you in future.

Interestingly the FX 5700U which uses the IBM made chip does show gpu aftifacts close to lock up point. These artifacts are flashes of colour that get worse and worse as you get closer to the limit. These are quite big flashes and will take out the entire window in 2001 nature or the turtles back in 03. Then large blocks of the screen go black almost like memory artifacts and then lock up. I run it just with the merest hint of colour flashes as I know it is perfectly safe and I can concentrate on the cpu/RAM

You are correct though, other nvidia show little sign before failing.

As both 5700U and 6600GT get about 24k it'll be interesting to compare.

Regards
Andy
do you have a link for that 24.5k?
im hoping to atleast achive 25k dont know if i can do it but i hope so because i made almost 26k with my 9800pro

[gocchin]

Picked up a couple of evga 6600gt's to try out.... has 1.6ns memory....mmmmm ;)

[Snowman89]

Picked up a couple of evga 6600gt's to try out.... has 1.6ns memory....mmmmm ;)
any results? :p :slobber: my 6600gt is in the mail right now got it for 285 incl shipping so im hoping that i will get the dfi soon :banana:

[zakelwe]

do you have a link for that 24.5k?
im hoping to atleast achive 25k dont know if i can do it but i hope so because i made almost 26k with my 9800pro

Just did some more runs after finally getting Win2k to like the 6600GT. For some reason every other card I have likes Win2k except the 6600GT which would give screen corruption while the load screen was going and before the drivers were loaded. Worked fine in XP so that is odd. Had to do a complete reinstall :rolleyes:

Here's a link to 24.9 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8398192

I had the RAM running async 5:6 166Mhz by mistake so expect to get over 25k tonight.

Here's some interesting benches

constant 550Mhz gpu clock, varied RAM MHz

550/850 => 339.8 drag / 124.7 nature
550/950 => 362.9 drag / 129.4 nature
550/1050 => 385.9 drag / 133.4 nature

constant 1050 RAM, varied cpu MHz

450/1050 => 362.0 drag / 113.8 nature
500/1050 => 374.7 drag / 123.8 nature
550/1050 => 385.9 drag / 133.4 nature


Nature for gpu is expected, but look at the hit for dragothic with memory, really bad, this card is bandwidth restricted it seems with lots of textures, probably as it is 4x1 output from 8x1 pipes and only 128bit bus.

Moral of the story, for benching volt mod for memory is a must and / or 1.6ns memory.

650/1300 would be nice ;)

Regards

Andy

[DoGMaN]

Is the mem vmod known? Mine does 1200, but I think there may be a little left with some help ;)

[Geforce4ti4200]

not bad, almost 25k with your ram async, but wow look how bad the hit in car high and lobbies are! No doubt youd score far higher 1:1 also isnt your fx55 capable of 2.95GHz or is this with chilled water? yea memory clocks on gpu matters alot more than core, even on x800pro/xt its true. we need 512 bit gpu ram but the question is when? for r620 maybe?

[zakelwe]

not bad, almost 25k with your ram async, but wow look how bad the hit in car high and lobbies are! No doubt youd score far higher 1:1 also isnt your fx55 capable of 2.95GHz or is this with chilled water? yea memory clocks on gpu matters alot more than core, even on x800pro/xt its true. we need 512 bit gpu ram but the question is when? for r620 maybe?

Now rectified and at 26k

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8399058

Still only 2.9Mhz on cpu rather than 2.95 but I got 600 points from running 1:1 and 400 points from tweaking due to the working out what the low bandwidth means for dragothic etc and how to compensate ;)

If it gets colder tonight will try 2.95 but think it might hang ...

Regards

Andy

[Geforce4ti4200]

That is a very nice score, about 3k ahead of my 9700 score :D you gained big running 1:1 ram, this is also why I choose to run 1:1 at 2.36GHz rather than 166 divider with higher clocks. Good luck going for the gold. Let me let ya on something, my 2.36GHz sometimes hangs(or crashes) too, I just reboot and bench again. It does pass more than half the time but at 2.4GHz it fails most of the time. I hit 19k with my ti4200, gonna try my ti4800se before and after vmods but I am not sure ill even get 20k with my cpu clocks. youve got 500+ MHz on me and double cache worth an easy 200MHz more. I gain just under 3 marks per MHz on my a64 so your cpu advantage is worth about 2k marks. Thats fine, I have the patience for Venice :D

[zakelwe]

That is a very nice score, about 3k ahead of my 9700 score :D you gained big running 1:1 ram, this is also why I choose to run 1:1 at 2.36GHz rather than 166 divider with higher clocks. Good luck going for the gold. Let me let ya on something, my 2.36GHz sometimes hangs(or crashes) too, I just reboot and bench again. It does pass more than half the time but at 2.4GHz it fails most of the time. I hit 19k with my ti4200, gonna try my ti4800se before and after vmods but I am not sure ill even get 20k with my cpu clocks. youve got 500+ MHz on me and double cache worth an easy 200MHz more. I gain just under 3 marks per MHz on my a64 so your cpu advantage is worth about 2k marks. Thats fine, I have the patience for Venice :D

San Diego and Venice might be the last hurragh for fast cores if the advent of later dual cores leads to 2x lesser Mhz, unless of course the DDR2 667 and 2Mb L2 cache in the dual core Windsor helps out. I think my air cooled days will be numbered with 2 cores though at 2.6Ghz+. Unless the cores are 8 inches apart heh heh.

Regards
Andy

[Geforce4ti4200]

I dont see why amd will kill off single core, but just move it to the budget market cause one core is obviously alot cheaper and not everyone needs or wants to spend double(or nearly) for two cores. I for one am not going dual core for many years

[perry_78]

I dont see why amd will kill off single core, but just move it to the budget market cause one core is obviously alot cheaper and not everyone needs or wants to spend double(or nearly) for two cores. I for one am not going dual core for many years

My AXP served me well and long. I will only go for Dual core IF:

a) I win the lottery
b) I inherit a lot of money
c) I find a Dual-core CPU on the street
d) I get a very well paid job

e) If gains really are over 70% vs. single core + a/b/c/d

[Geforce4ti4200]

I hope amd is smart enough to realize there is still a huge market for single core, plus amd can make two single core cpus for every dual core so if they kill off dual core, then ill just go Intel unless they also kill dual core then ill just not upgrade for many years and amd loses.

[gigi77]

nice zakelwe

luigi

[zakelwe]

nice zakelwe

luigi

Thanks Luigi, will be aiming for 27k as next target, I need 5 and 10% more on cpu and video card I think, ie 620/1200 and 2950 and not 2900 on cpu.

Regards

Andy

[DoGMaN]

Nice Andy, I'd love to see 27k with a 6600GT. So far best I have done is 24k and a bit. But I don't have the CPU speed that you do and I was running the memory at a divider.

[zakelwe]

Nice Andy, I'd love to see 27k with a 6600GT. So far best I have done is 24k and a bit. But I don't have the CPU speed that you do and I was running the memory at a divider.

Yes, you have good nature and dragothic, I'd certainly would like them.

My Gainward has apparently arrived at home so when I get back from work I will bench it at 500/1000, 580-585/1100 ( my MSI speeds assuming it can get this high) and top speed to see what the faster memory can do and will post a compare. Temps are too warm in Uk for good cpu speed at present though.

I would hazard a guess that good ram and cpu cooling will give quite a few more Mhz on core and RAM, like 10-15 and 30-50 respectively.

Regards

Andy

[Snowman89]

any one knows if the zalman CU-700 fits on the 6600gt? pci e

[DoGMaN]

any one knows if the zalman CU-700 fits on the 6600gt? pci e


Yes it does. I should have two of them by next week :D

[gocchin]

Man I gotta get my 6600GT setup going... I've been too busy with the new vapo and volt modded XT PE.... ;)

[zakelwe]

Just did 1 run of the Gainward on 3dmark and the temps topped out at 68C which is too high at just 500Mhz. Shamino was right the stock heatsink wobbles about and when taken off shows 1/3 not really touching. Have junked that and will attach the coipper core of the Assus V9999 GE heatsink and some sinks to RAM and see what the difference is.

Regards

Andy

[gigi77]

for zakelwe

you start for 28k.... :)

luigi

[zakelwe]

for zakelwe

you start for 28k.... :)

luigi

Not with air cooled max 2950 FX-55 I won't :)

Got 26.7k tonight

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8404800

I replaced the standard hsf with parts of an MSI MX 4000 heatsink for memory and Asus V999GE hsf insides for cpu, all fitted together very nicely

http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/6600gt.jpg

Core is maxed at 607MHz, which was 58C and the memory is not yet maxed at 1240MHz. Comparing to my good runs before I am losing 250 points on the cpu side so I am certain I can get 27k this weekend when the weather cools down.

Then I'll volt mod the gpu.

Regards

Andy

[perry_78]

Nice.

UPS is obviosly playing dodgeball with mine, as its "In Transit" for the past 2 days :rolleyes:

How high temps are you getting with the new cooling solution?

[zakelwe]

Nice.

UPS is obviosly playing dodgeball with mine, as its "In Transit" for the past 2 days :rolleyes:

How high temps are you getting with the new cooling solution?

Mine seemed to get stuck in Germany for 2 days, supposed to be 3 days max for standard delivery.

Stock heatsink was 68C at 500Mhz just after nature, at 607Mhz the new cooling solution is 58C, so a gain of 107Mhz and a drop of 10C, the standard heatsink is very very bad. The MSI one is much better, but they spoil it by putting thermal pads on the RAM to make it touch the cpu heatsink, probably is worse than nothing at all.

My shed is 10C and I am not using a case, so these will be not representative of a cased card in a normal room, unless my stock heatsink was worse than most peoples ?


Regards

Andy

[Geforce4ti4200]

Thats some great scores, and your 27k goal would be 1k below first place :D good luck with your vmod and goal. oh by the way can we see a side by side of your 6600gt vs. fx5700u? I think your car high was much better with the fx with same cpu MHz :confused:

[zakelwe]

Thats some great scores, and your 27k goal would be 1k below first place :D good luck with your vmod and goal. oh by the way can we see a side by side of your 6600gt vs. fx5700u? I think your car high was much better with the fx with same cpu MHz :confused:

I think you are right on the 5700U, I will have to check it out.

Here's my new top score which I did whilst reading the XS Captain thread.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8407204


27.3k, not bad at all.


Once I get the volt mod on this thing and the -2C temps this weekend it looks like 27.5k should be in order.

Regards

Andy

[Godmyster]

What temps have u guys been getting, i got around 31/32º havent tested the card yet but i got a Asus SLI Deluxe, 3200 90nm, 2x512 OCZ Gold Edition CL 2 what scores do u guys think i can get here? :)

[zakelwe]

What temps have u guys been getting, i got around 31/32º havent tested the card yet but i got a Asus SLI Deluxe, 3200 90nm, 2x512 OCZ Gold Edition CL 2 what scores do u guys think i can get here? :)

That's a good temp for idle, do a 3dmark2001 when you are testing the card and keep rivatuner running whilst doing it .. I now top out at about 54C during nature.

With your rig should be well over 10 k for 03 I would say.

Regards

Andy

[gigi77]

Nice Andy!
Good Score....
Best Regards...

Why use 66.70 drivers?


Luigi....

[Snowman89]

how did you po orb guys bypass the throttling?
what program did you use to edit the bios?

[blinky]

o man i cant wait to get ahold of this card :D

anyone slap phase change on their 6600gt yet? ;)

[zakelwe]

Thanks Luigi.

In answer to luigi's question about why use 66.70 drivers they seemed to give me less temps than the later ones, nature score was slightly down over 66.93 but the other tests seemed to compensate. 71.25 drivers put up nature again ( nvidia is obviously still tweaking for shaders ) but the temps were even higher , I had been a lower score as well, but that might have been a one off

In regardes to throttling I only had that when my memory was clocked too high, with the gpu I just get freeze and release and flashes of colour.

I think these cards will like phase or chilled water, they get very hot when you start putting more volts through them, I was hitting 80C in nature from an idle of 27C at 1.61v. I think this is because they are built on TSMC's cheap 0.11nm process which does not use low K. The 6800 don't get as hot as they have a lot more transistors.

I managed to get a 27.5 last night and might have 100-200 points more. Drag high was full of green triangles so obviously something is very near the limit :D I think video card memory at a guess.

Regards

Andy

[Snowman89]

Thanks Luigi.

In answer to luigi's question about why use 66.70 drivers they seemed to give me less temps than the later ones, nature score was slightly down over 66.93 but the other tests seemed to compensate. 71.25 drivers put up nature again ( nvidia is obviously still tweaking for shaders ) but the temps were even higher , I had been a lower score as well, but that might have been a one off

In regardes to throttling I only had that when my memory was clocked too high, with the gpu I just get freeze and release and flashes of colour.

I think these cards will like phase or chilled water, they get very hot when you start putting more volts through them, I was hitting 80C in nature from an idle of 27C at 1.61v. I think this is because they are built on TSMC's cheap 0.11nm process which does not use low K. The 6800 don't get as hot as they have a lot more transistors.

I managed to get a 27.5 last night and might have 100-200 points more. Drag high was full of green triangles so obviously something is very near the limit :D I think video card memory at a guess.

Regards

Andy
nice!
any pictures of your rig? :)
what cooling are you running on graphic?

edit: thinking of running dry-ice on graphic sometime but want to be sure it likes it and dont throttle because of the - degrees

[gigi77]

Nice 27.5k thanks andy for informations,
my result 27.9k is too bad, i have error lod bias on nature.

Best regards

[zakelwe]

nice!
any pictures of your rig? :)
what cooling are you running on graphic?

edit: thinking of running dry-ice on graphic sometime but want to be sure it likes it and dont throttle because of the - degrees

http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/6600rig.jpg

It's a globalwin cak2 cpu coppper heatsink.

In the picture note

a) blue pots sticking up above the card, held on with duct tape
b) cooking thermometer for measuring temps, it only cost £25 but on the other hand it is a load of crap ;)
c) beer fridge under table for when I get a new score and celebrate, or fail and need to drown my sorrows. Either way I get another beer.

Regards
Andy

[zakelwe]

Nice 27.5k thanks andy for informations,
my result 27.9k is too bad, i have error lod bias on nature.

Best regards

Have a try with 66.81, these seem quite good in car low, might get you over 28k ??

Regards

Andy

[Snowman89]

http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/6600rig.jpg

It's a globalwin cak2 cpu coppper heatsink.

In the picture note

a) blue pots sticking up above the card, held on with duct tape
b) cooking thermometer for measuring temps, it only cost £25 but on the other hand it is a load of crap ;)
c) beer fridge under table for when I get a new score and celebrate, or fail and need to drown my sorrows. Either way I get another beer.

Regards
Andy
thx, no way bypassing the throttling?
hoping to get atleast 25k because i only got a 3200+ winnie to play with :)

[perry_78]

I don't think phase change will do much good, as you cant give these cards more than 1,7V anyways :(

Maze4 coming ;)

[saaya]

hr hr hr just ordered a leadtek 6600gt extreme :D
cant wait to join the phun ,guys! :D

can somebody post the vddr mod or a link to it please? :)

[zakelwe]

hr hr hr just ordered a leadtek 6600gt extreme :D
cant wait to join the phun ,guys! :D

can somebody post the vddr mod or a link to it please? :)

It's in the grpahics mods section of this forum saaya.

Regards

Andy

[Snowman89]

:D :D :D my DFI SLI-D is in teh mail :D

[apa]

First time here... Thought I'd post my results so far. I've been tweaking for 3DMark03 only until now and reached over 10k with this card (no volt-mods (yet)):

3DMark2001SE: 22587 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8362135)
3DMark03: 10075 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3656664)
3DMark05: 4362 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=539595)

I have a feeling my CPU is holding me back on my scores (the sucker just won't do 2500 3DM-stable on this board)...

[zakelwe]

First time here... Thought I'd post my results so far. I've been tweaking for 3DMark03 only until now and reached over 10k with this card (no volt-mods (yet)):

3DMark2001SE: 22587 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8362135)
3DMark03: 10075 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3656664)
3DMark05: 4362 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=539595)

I have a feeling my CPU is holding me back on my scores (the sucker just won't do 2500 3DM-stable on this board)...

Welcome apa, nice score on 3dmark03 10k is a good score for a 6600GT.

Snowman89, bet you are waiting for the postmans knock yes ? :)

Regards

Andy

[Snowman89]

Welcome apa, nice score on 3dmark03 10k is a good score for a 6600GT.

Snowman89, bet you are waiting for the postmans knock yes ? :)

Regards

Andy
how can you think that? :banana:
they sent it yesterday but its still at the mail there so im hoping it will leave there tonight so i can get it tomorrow or else im gonna be crushed :mad:

[gigi77]

for andy.......
stay tuned

best regards,
luigi

[enzoR]

how do these cards like - temps and more volts? do they scale well? any chance of reaching 750+?

[Snowman89]

how do these cards like - temps and more volts? do they scale well? any chance of reaching 750+?
im wondering that to, wonder how it would do @ -60 :D

[zakelwe]

for andy.......
stay tuned

best regards,
luigi

Good luck luigi, if you can get Sli going well hopfully a 30k will be in order :)


Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

how do these cards like - temps and more volts? do they scale well? any chance of reaching 750+?

They increase temps quickly in 3D when they have more voltage and so I would say they will like very cold temps. I would say 700 is possible with 1.75v and phase/chilled water, not sure about 750.

Regards

Andy

[Godmyster]

Hey everybody did some testes with my Albatron 6600GT@600/1220, 3200@2600mhz and some tweaks with the help of zakelwe :) Thanks again using winxp pro sp2.. if anybody know any more good tweaks please tell :D

2005 - 4.2k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=571980

2001 - 23k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8420593

2003 - 10k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3688492

[enzoR]

sp2 better than sp1?

[perry_78]

My Gainward 6600GT is a hunk-a-junk it seems. Artifacting at 579/1150 already! I hope it's only the absurd crapness of the cooler and not the card. My water is coming on on monday.

[Godmyster]

enzoR dont really know, forgot to say my temps are around 31/32 in windows, load i dont really know never checked..

[zakelwe]

Hey everybody did some testes with my Albatron 6600GT@600/1220, 3200@2600mhz and some tweaks with the help of zakelwe :) Thanks again using winxp pro sp2.. if anybody know any more good tweaks please tell :D

2005 - 4.2k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=571980

2001 - 23k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8420593

2003 - 10k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3688492

10k is certainly good in 03 , 2001 not bad either. I can't recall doing a 05 run with this card.

Regards

Andy

[xs64]

My Gainward 6600GT is a hunk-a-junk it seems. Artifacting at 579/1150 already! I hope it's only the absurd crapness of the cooler and not the card. My water is coming on on monday.

Have u triedoc only the mem , i can run 560/1200 in SLI mode stable everyday

[Geforce4ti4200]

Hey everybody did some testes with my Albatron 6600GT@600/1220, 3200@2600mhz and some tweaks with the help of zakelwe :) Thanks again using winxp pro sp2.. if anybody know any more good tweaks please tell :D

2005 - 4.2k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=571980

2001 - 23k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8420593

2003 - 10k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3688492


consider using win2k and the multi apic tweak. also get tccd to boost those lobbies, I beat your lobbies with my winchester at 2GHz and yours is 2.6GHz, you need ram bandwith, my lobbies went up miles after I got tccd.

[zakelwe]

consider using win2k and the multi apic tweak. also get tccd to boost those lobbies, I beat your lobbies with my winchester at 2GHz and yours is 2.6GHz, you need ram bandwith, my lobbies went up miles after I got tccd.

Seen my GF3ti500 score GF4 ? :D

I've just replaced the stock heatsink and fan. Typical GF3 chip, as concave as Amy Weber's bellybutton ( but not as nice to put your finger in ). I'll test it properly this weekend with the cpu heatsink on it, hope I can get 285-290 out of it. Then I will volt mod it. Then maybe even chilled water if I am feeling adventerous.

Regards

Andy

[Godmyster]

xs64 what do u mean by triedoc? i cant get the memory to 1300 because it says "The driver has failed to pass the internal teste bla bla bla" dont know why.. Dont really have the money for the tccd :D but i have 2x512 3200 OCZ Gold edition rev2.. i have to go for 24k at least
thats my min score :p:

[Snowman89]

xs64 what do u mean by triedoc? i cant get the memory to 1300 because it says "The driver has failed to pass the internal teste bla bla bla" dont know why.. Dont really have the money for the tccd :D but i have 2x512 3200 OCZ Gold edition rev2.. i have to go for 24k at least
thats my min score :p:
i know that you can disable that test in rivaturner but i dont remember where :(

[xs64]

xs64 what do u mean by triedoc? i cant get the memory to 1300 because it says "The driver has failed to pass the internal teste bla bla bla" dont know why.. Dont really have the money for the tccd :D but i have 2x512 3200 OCZ Gold edition rev2.. i have to go for 24k at least
thats my min score :p:
sry my bad :slap: , i mean tried to oc the memory of vid :D , because the 6600GT G/S GLH use 1.6ns memory and it can easily reach at least 1200Mhz , and i used coodbits3D to oc the mem

Here are my scores at 560/1200 , all with stock Cooling
3D05 : http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=568516
3D03 : http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3684735

[Godmyster]

Snowman89 if u find out or if anybody knows how to disable that message so i can do more OC in memory ide like to know.. thanks

[Geforce4ti4200]

Seen my GF3ti500 score GF4 ? :D

I've just replaced the stock heatsink and fan. Typical GF3 chip, as concave as Amy Weber's bellybutton ( but not as nice to put your finger in ). I'll test it properly this weekend with the cpu heatsink on it, hope I can get 285-290 out of it. Then I will volt mod it. Then maybe even chilled water if I am feeling adventerous.

Regards

Andy


2nd place on orb, not bad at all! we have pratically the same clocking ti500, you got a good one for the first try, I had to go thru like half a dozen ti500s before I found this one at 270/610, most of my ti500s did 260 core, 590 ram. wow those cards are such bottlenecks all your extra cpu clocks(and 20MHz ti500 ram) is only some 550 marks ahead of me. I will let you have the experience vmodding, if it helps ill give a try to mine. I was using stock cooling on the ti500 with a tornado fan blowing the back. They are such bottlenecks 20k on a ti4200 is much easier than 15k on a ti500, 3dmark 2001 is almost like 2003 on slow gpus like a ti500 and below its almost all gpu. By the way did ya see my mx440 score? was about on the mark of what I was expecting. 11.3k then I got just shy of 15k at 640x480, I tied you in the high detail tests, beat you in the low details. question: have you heard of the new 90nm san diago fx55 supposedly comming in like 2 weeks? gonna sell yours and get the 90nm verson? This will boost your scores on all your gpus. I will be having a couple more cheap gpus comming but ill need more cpu power to get close to you

[zakelwe]

2nd place on orb, not bad at all! we have pratically the same clocking ti500, you got a good one for the first try, I had to go thru like half a dozen ti500s before I found this one at 270/610, most of my ti500s did 260 core, 590 ram. wow those cards are such bottlenecks all your extra cpu clocks(and 20MHz ti500 ram) is only some 550 marks ahead of me. I will let you have the experience vmodding, if it helps ill give a try to mine. I was using stock cooling on the ti500 with a tornado fan blowing the back. They are such bottlenecks 20k on a ti4200 is much easier than 15k on a ti500, 3dmark 2001 is almost like 2003 on slow gpus like a ti500 and below its almost all gpu. By the way did ya see my mx440 score? was about on the mark of what I was expecting. 11.3k then I got just shy of 15k at 640x480, I tied you in the high detail tests, beat you in the low details. question: have you heard of the new 90nm san diago fx55 supposedly comming in like 2 weeks? gonna sell yours and get the 90nm verson? This will boost your scores on all your gpus. I will be having a couple more cheap gpus comming but ill need more cpu power to get close to you

Good MX440 score :toast:

You are right about the gf3's having 10 bad cores to 1 good core, I think it is how concave they are. This one seems fine now I have lapped it and really tightened on a cpu copper heatsink. Wish me luck for 15k.

Yeah, I heard about the 90nm Fx-55's. Is that San Diego or is that still Fx-57 ? I guess 90nm and SSE3 is San diego ? To tell you the truth if we get reports of 3.1Ghz average on air I will go for it, if not I will do watercooling instead to get that. Mind you if it is faster clock per clock as well ......

Regards

Andy

[perry_78]

Well,, my GF RAM won't go over 1200 at default Vdimm.

Andy, what were your "detected" speeds? Mine are 561/1140 :( BUMMER!

[zakelwe]

Well,, my GF RAM won't go over 1200 at default Vdimm.

Andy, what were your "detected" speeds? Mine are 561/1140 :( BUMMER!

Never tried it and now it is modded with extra heatsinks and so might give a higher value. I have to say that considering the GLH 1.6ns memory mine have not been spectacular either at 1240 max.

Do your heatsinks get warm to the touch ? If not then is the thermal tape holding in the heat?

Is 1140 up to Gainwards claims, if not I would send it back.

Regards

Andy

[Geforce4ti4200]

"You are right about the gf3's having 10 bad cores to 1 good core, I think it is how concave they are. This one seems fine now I have lapped it and really tightened on a cpu copper heatsink. Wish me luck for 15k."

good luck bro! I would be most interested to see what you gain by lapping it before vmods then after vmods. you lap till the copper barely shows, right? have you lapped your ti4800se core and how much did that gain ya? might need to try it myself :D

[ENGiN]

here my result with Gigabyte 6600gt PCIe @ 570/1320 with stock cooling and no mods. (2.0 ns Samsung 440)
:toast:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=577208

[Snowman89]

how do i disable that test in the drivers that can say i cant run the clocks because...?

[perry_78]

Never tried it and now it is modded with extra heatsinks and so might give a higher value. I have to say that considering the GLH 1.6ns memory mine have not been spectacular either at 1240 max.

Do your heatsinks get warm to the touch ? If not then is the thermal tape holding in the heat?

Is 1140 up to Gainwards claims, if not I would send it back.

Regards

Andy

Well, it runs at Gainward 550/1150 specs 3dMark ok, I'll try HL2 for prolonged periods. The heatsinks are cold. So I think I'll strap them on with AS5.

[Snowman89]

3dmark03: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3695319
nothing maxed, no tweak even forgot to fix ram timings :D
3dmark01: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8424080
same as above didnt care with ram timings or tweaking will get that later when i try max

[Snowman89]

Hey everybody did some testes with my Albatron 6600GT@600/1220, 3200@2600mhz and some tweaks with the help of zakelwe :) Thanks again using winxp pro sp2.. if anybody know any more good tweaks please tell :D

2005 - 4.2k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=571980

2001 - 23k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8420593

2003 - 10k - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3688492
no offence but i think your score seem to be low, your cpu clock and gpu clock is higher than mine and then you tweaked but still im very close to you even your superior clocks :confused:

[zakelwe]

3dmark03: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3695319
nothing maxed, no tweak even forgot to fix ram timings :D
3dmark01: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8424080
same as above didnt care with ram timings or tweaking will get that later when i try max

Almost on front page already. The mid range for the 6 series is not far behind the top of the range for the FX series.

Regards

Andy

[vkbms]

Winchester 3000+ @ 2750mhz (305x9)
Msi K8n Neo2 Platinum bios 1.36b nomod HTT 3x
2*512 Adata Vitesta ddr600 @ 305mhz 2.5-3-3-6 2.85v
Leadtek 6600 GT @ 645/1221 no mod

K10 Hurricane & Keops650 cooled (By Pctuner.net)....
TAmb 19°-20°
TWater 22.7°

Result 10419

http://img70.exs.cx/img70/1489/3dmark03104198ni.jpg

Sorry but i haven't the orb result...

[Snowman89]

Almost on front page already. The mid range for the 6 series is not far behind the top of the range for the FX series.

Regards

Andy
yeah know im on first page if you remove all the sliers :) what did you get in 03?
edit: do you know how to remove the annoying thing when you try to oc it can say that it didnt make the test so try lowering the clocks, is there any way to bypass it?

[Snowman89]

Winchester 3000+ @ 2750mhz (305x9)
Msi K8n Neo2 Platinum bios 1.36b nomod HTT 3x
2*512 Adata Vitesta ddr600 @ 305mhz 2.5-3-3-6 2.85v
Leadtek 6600 GT @ 645/1221 no mod

K10 Hurricane & Keops650 cooled (By Pctuner.net)....
TAmb 19°-20°
TWater 22.7°

Result 10419

http://img70.exs.cx/img70/1489/3dmark03104198ni.jpg

Sorry but i haven't the orb result...
that looks low, thats even with non approved drivers :confused:
how did you disable the test when testing the ocd settings?

[vkbms]

that looks low, thats even with non approved drivers :confused:
how did you disable the test when testing the ocd settings?

looks low? :confused: .....
I've "registered" version.... :banana4:

[Snowman89]

looks low? :confused: .....
I've "registered" version.... :banana4:
yeah but your gpu clocks are way higher than mine so are your cpuclocks and your ust 400points ahead of me

[vkbms]

yeah but your gpu clocks are way higher than mine so are your cpuclocks and your ust 400points ahead of me

I've SO very untidy....i've done this result with dayuse SO....about 110mB of occuped memory.....probably it's for this... ;)

[Snowman89]

I've SO very untidy....i've done this result with dayuse SO....about 110mB of occuped memory.....probably it's for this... ;)

whats your score in 01?
i tested to tweak some basics and got 24100

[vkbms]

whats your score in 01?
i tested to tweak some basics and got 24100

I haven't tried it yet.....
In this week i 'll install WinXp,Win200Pro & Win2003server .... On monday i'll retry
;) ....

PS: sorry 4 my English...
:)

[enzoR]

how did u manage 645 stock on core?

[Snowman89]

how did u manage 645 stock on core?
good cooling?
the 6600gt i think is very dependent about the cooling, ex my leadtek can make 575 in room temp but gets like 75-80c but when i oopen the door i can run at 590 will put the card in teh lower pci e later and put a 120mm fan over it :p

[Snowman89]

what temps do you get idle/load?

[vkbms]

how did u manage 645 stock on core?

Liquid cooled......default voltage ;)

[enzoR]

thats good.