30k!

[Grov]

Broke 30k for the first time:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8370037

Yay. You guys think this PC should be getting more, or is that about right.

[reject]

its a good score

[althes]

very nice

[eddy]

Get Win2k

[[XC] moddolicous]

I think that seems around right

[gocchin]

It's a good start... with W2K and some tweaking you could definitely get more...

[twilius_basic]

Congrats on 30K! :) I think there is some more left in there, depending if your CPU is maxed or not. Win2K w/ tweaks would get ya a lot higher I think :D

I have an X800XTPE here, and a 3700+ coming next week....with any luck it'll be a decent OC'er and I can join ya in 30K+ :cool:

[Grov]

Congrats on 30K! :) I think there is some more left in there, depending if your CPU is maxed or not. Win2K w/ tweaks would get ya a lot higher I think :D

I have an X800XTPE here, and a 3700+ coming next week....with any luck it'll be a decent OC'er and I can join ya in 30K+ :cool:

Hehehehe, good luck.

Yeah i know i could get better but i really can't be botherd to use Win2k just for 3dmark, heheh.

As for your 3700+, good luck as i say, mine doesn't really seem stable at 10x255, ive tryed loads of stuff, it's really getting me down.

It's probably a crap stepping. :mad:

[Zeus]

Hehehehe, good luck.

Yeah i know i could get better but i really can't be botherd to use Win2k just for 3dmark, heheh.

As for your 3700+, good luck as i say, mine doesn't really seem stable at 10x255, ive tryed loads of stuff, it's really getting me down.

It's probably a crap stepping. :mad:

Your 3700+ is maxing out @ 2550?
Ouch!
My 3400+ can do 2850 just watercooled but in all fairness, it's a NewCastle.
I would ebay the sucker and get a new one. ;)

[k|ngp|n]

Hehehehe, good luck.

Yeah i know i could get better but i really can't be botherd to use Win2k just for 3dmark, heheh.

As for your 3700+, good luck as i say, mine doesn't really seem stable at 10x255, ive tryed loads of stuff, it's really getting me down.

It's probably a crap stepping. :mad:

congratz.....Good start.. Winxp can score high 3dmarks like 2k, you just have to tweak it right.

You can prolly squeeze some more points out of that rig...did you use acpi multi-pc tweak yet? That should get you around 500 pts more with same settings, maybe more.
What httx are you running at? You should be able to stay at 4x up to 260 or so before having to drop to 3x. Thats usually worth a few points if your ram cant run past httx limit on board.
What is your highest cpu overclock with 11 multi?? at what volts??
249-255x11 should be doable with most good 3700+'s on air I would think, especially if your in a colder climate.
2700mhz for average to good clockers and 2800mhz+ for the better ones.

[Grov]

LOL, 2700mhz your joking right?

All week ive been trying to overclock it, nothing works. Temps hit 65C PC shuts down, 1.55vcore+ 110% in prime, 10x260 got me 33Seconds in 1mb Supr PI, but it's not stable at all.

Iam going to buy some AS5, and re-sit my XP120. If it doesn't work, dunno what ill do. Iam not getting anther chip no way.

Just realised i did 3dmark with driver settings on quality.

As for the acpi multi-pc tweak thing, i was told about this elsewhere, and i can't find an option to tweak it, maybe someone can go through it again, thanks.

Yeah the CPU is a real disapointment as far as overclocking goes, but then again, iam :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing used to it. My XP-M i had was :banana::banana::banana::banana: and only did 2.4ghz max stable.



Zeus, you have water cooling. :p: not exactly a good comparison.

[Dunk]

sweet score :YIPPIE:

[Grov]

Ok if i change it to a ACPI Multi, how do i change it back as ive heard it decreases o/c and increases temp, heh.

[k|ngp|n]

I nevert had problems with decrease in temps or overclock on xp or 2k.
Once you do it i dont think you can go back without either ghosting to nrevious hard drive image or reinstalling os. :P

[twilius_basic]

What week is your 3700+ Grov? It looks like a very bad one, particularly if it only does 2550mhz under XP-120 :eek: :mad:

@K|ngp|n, that would have to be a very lucky chip to hit 250-255x11 air-cooled I think. The only guy I've seen with a real cherry chip was jfr0 on these boards, his would do 2700-2730Mhz 3D-benchable with 1.6v on stock retail air!!! :slobber: Truly an awesome chip. Most seem to do 2600-26XXmhz on stock air tho :-/ I hope I get a lucky one.

Btw, does the ACPI tweak benefit WinXP also?

[Zeus]

LOL, 2700mhz your joking right?

I don't think he is.
2700MHz should be easy fo a 3700+
Were only talking 300MHz overclock.


Zeus, you have water cooling. :p: not exactly a good comparison.

I don't see why not, watercooling isn't that much superior over good aircooling.
I'll tell ya what, i had an old 3400+ ClawHammer that topped out at 2550, i got so sick of it, i damn sold the bugger! :D

I don't think your heatsink is making good contact with your CPU.

[k|ngp|n]

What week is your 3700+ Grov? It looks like a very bad one, particularly if it only does 2550mhz under XP-120 :eek: :mad:

@K|ngp|n, that would have to be a very lucky chip to hit 250-255x11 air-cooled I think. The only guy I've seen with a real cherry chip was jfr0 on these boards, his would do 2700-2730Mhz 3D-benchable with 1.6v on stock retail air!!! :slobber: Truly an awesome chip. Most seem to do 2600-26XXmhz on stock air tho :-/ I hope I get a lucky one.

Btw, does the ACPI tweak benefit WinXP also?

Well :P.....maybe my numbers are a bit optimistic LOL but...I did have a 3700+ that I managed to bench 3d at 2.7*ghz..and this was in the middle of summer 85f ....Im digging for misplaced screenshots atm but if I find them I'll post them.

[Grov]

I don't think he is.
2700MHz should be easy fo a 3700+
Were only talking 300MHz overclock.





It's not that easy as that. It's built on 0.13 micron, therefore is already close to as far as it's gonna go. The top end chips usually don't o/c as well.

Saying it should easily do 300mhz is a tad naieve. :)

Yeah, like i said im gonna re-sit the sink. Might give lapping a go, but the finest grit ive got is 500, is that good enough?

Dunno about the week, ill have to check it when i take the sink off some time.

Not really botherd about getting another one, sure another 200mhz would be nice, but it's not worth the hassle.

[Zeus]

Do you think 0.13 micron has anything to do with it?
Don't think so, what do you think my NewCastle is?

Think of it this way:

When speedbinning the chips, the chips qualified for 3700+ should do 2400MHz at default voltage, chips that will not pass this test or need a tad more voltage will be 3400+ or even 3200+ and get the multiplier max that goes with the modelnumber.

My old C0 ClawHammer was 2200MHz default and did 2550MHz max, so that's 350MHz overclock, which was about average at the time i got it.
Now that the yields have improved, we should see more headroom, look at my NewCastle for example.

So i don't think it's naieve to say the topmodels will be the better clockers.

Going by the temps you reported, something must be wrong with the seating of your heatsink.

I think 2700MHz is pretty average for a 3700+ on air, assuming it's version 2.6
These version 0.6 (NewCastle) and 2.6 (ClawHammer) tend do do their max at around 1.65-1.7V, you might try that. ;)

[Grov]

Heheheheheheh. :)

Tryed loads of voltage. 1.55 + 110%

[twilius_basic]

Well :P.....maybe my numbers are a bit optimistic LOL but...I did have a 3700+ that I managed to bench 3d at 2.7*ghz..and this was in the middle of summer 85f ....Im digging for misplaced screenshots atm but if I find them I'll post them.

Well I agree with you, I think a decent average 3700+ should probably do 2700mhz on air, though most won't on the stock heatsink, would probably need a nice copper cooler to do that. My first chip was an 0432 version 2.6, but it sucked hardcore, only did would not do 2600mhz with the stock cooler for anything. Even with my XP-90 and Tornado I only did 3D at 2620mhz with extra volts :mad: whatever the max volts in bios is for EPoX 8KDA3J mobo, which overvolts decently.

Now I have a DFI Lanparty waiting for my next 3700+, but with my luck I'll still get a crappy chip :rolleyes:

Grov make sure and check your HSF, 2550mhz seems awful low for XP-120 and ~1.7V. Or maybe you just got one of the worst 3700's made :(

[Grov]

Grov make sure and check your HSF, 2550mhz seems awful low for XP-120 and ~1.7V. Or maybe you just got one of the worst 3700's made :(

LOL.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least, usually my luck that.

Wierd thing is though my temps never got this high, in my old case, with my old PSU, all that has changed is ive added OCZ VX, moved to a Silverstone case, which has far better airflow, and put in a OCZ 520Watt PSU.

I hated putting the sink on, i thought it was really hard to do, it scared to crap out of me, with a 350quid chip underneath, lol.

[eva2000]

congrats.. passing your personal barriers is so rewarding :D

[Mag Master 21]

My 3400+ isn't even a .6 version and it's doing 2750 on crap air. 1.55 + 110% with temps at 45C idle. So yeah, you should be much higher than that..

[twilius_basic]

My 3400+ isn't even a .6 version and it's doing 2750 on crap air. 1.55 + 110% with temps at 45C idle. So yeah, you should be much higher than that..

NC or CLAW?

[THunDA]

NC or CLAW?

I think the .6 ones are NC's and the 2.6 ones are CH's..

Congrads on the 30k Grov.. now on to 31k..hehe.. :banana: