*****Official***** DFI NF4 ultra-D first look

[dnavarro]

Tony, on DFI's official website bios 1.25 is the official bios and 1.26 is the beta. Are you saying official boards will be flashed with the beta? Or is 1.26 actually the official release? Thanks.

D

[Mastakilla]

if you push with your finger on the cooler, below the fan, then the whole cooler moves at this place down to the board and the opposite site moves up

v (finger)
_________________ (cooler)
-------------------------- (board)

now this happens wehen you touch the cooler at this place
it moves up at the other side

________---------- (cooler)
-------------------------- (board)

i think that the feathers aren´t strong enough to reach enough pressure

hehe

COOL explenation man!

really wanne get rid of that cooler
hope 1A-cooling reacts positive to my request for a compatible NB block :)

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D Do You all still believe in St. Clauss ???

If it only were a BIOS bug there is no need to stop release - BIOS can be flashed easily, someone here can tell the truth ???

:slapass: :cord:

[Alexwai]

Guys i can answer a few questions here as my debugging of the board lead to the bios and the mods AG has described.

The boards are having a few components changed to improve ram overclocking and compatibility. A new bios was written to overcome an issue i found working with DFI which is the main reason AG has stated all boards released early are not final release.

I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU TO WAIT FOR OFFICIAL BOARDS they will clock ram better and they come with the latest official bios. if your board comes with 121 or earlier I strongly suggest you flash it at once to the 126 or later.

Now i don't know how these pre release boards are hitting stores, i would wait to see DFI press releases etc and know your getting a latest spec board.


Tony

Regarding to the new BIOS (126), it boost 50Mhz more for my board comparing with the old BIOS.

[H2OGun]

The DFI boards were out for sale since 2 days ago in Hong Kong and I think they all came with BIOS dated Jan 19. The latest beta BIOS dated Jan 26 does give huge improvement in terms of RAM clocking. Managed to go beyond DDR600 which was not possible with Jan 19 BIOS while I know for sure my RAM can handle that on MSI K8N Diamond. LOL, the latest BIOS rocks!!! :banana:

[Tony]

:D Do You all still believe in St. Clauss ???

If it only were a BIOS bug there is no need to stop release - BIOS can be flashed easily, someone here can tell the truth ???

:slapass: :cord:

Read my post m8, i just said there are component changes to be made...this is the truth. If you want to make more of it then go for it...i know the truth as I was part of why the boards are being altered.

[Tony]

Whay my SLI-D is shipping with the BIOS 125. I think it is the final release board.

Regarding to the new BIOS (126), it boost 50Mhz more for my board comparing with BIOS 125. As far as i know 125 is a rough and 126 was a recompile of the same bios...so how you see higher clocks i don't know :confused:

The changes made to 125 and 126 are very important and its a must you all run these files or later when the boards hit the shelves.

The ultra will NOT ship with a SLI bridge.

[Alexwai]

The DFI boards were out for sale since 2 days ago in Hong Kong and I think they all came with BIOS dated Jan 19. The latest beta BIOS dated Jan 26 does give huge improvement in terms of RAM clocking. Managed to go beyond DDR600 which was not possible with Jan 19 BIOS while I know for sure my RAM can handle that on MSI K8N Diamond. LOL, the latest BIOS rocks!!! :banana:
Yes, it is truth and thanks for you link. :toast:

[Tony]

The DFI boards were out for sale since 2 days ago in Hong Kong and I think they all came with BIOS dated Jan 19. The latest beta BIOS dated Jan 26 does give huge improvement in terms of RAM clocking. Managed to go beyond DDR600 which was not possible with Jan 19 BIOS while I know for sure my RAM can handle that on MSI K8N Diamond. LOL, the latest BIOS rocks!!! :banana:
Those boards will not have the hardware changes to make them even better....why do boards always leak out early :confused: :confused:

[Patrickclouds]

on dfi-street.com:

[QUOTE]In response to questions from your Forum readers I am posting the latest info I have from DFI on the release of the new nF4 boards:

"I have just received the final revisions to both boards and DFI has not altered the Ultra design - it still includes 2 x16 PCIe slots and is still the same PCB as the SLI design. The AnandTech review is scheduled to appear on Tuesday, February 1, and New Egg and others should start receiving retail boards on Tuesday or Wednesday also.

DFI did change some 20 components on the board that greatly improves memory compatability. Testers found the initial board was very good with Samsung TCCD but not so good with Hynix and some other memories. The new revisions work well with any of the common memories in the market and the board also overclocks even better than the initial release. We are told DFI has modified all boards, so only the new revision will appear in the retail channel."QUOTE]

[BeachKEN]

The ultra will NOT ship with a SLI bridge.


THNX for the info, but, if someone mod the Ultra board to full SLI, there should be some SLI improvement, the question is, how can this board handle full SLI potential, if the bridge is needed to connect 2 cards into the full SLI system, there won´t be any improvement at all and it shouldn´t work, right?

Or just to buy or get anywhere the SLI bridge?

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Read my post m8, i just said there are component changes to be made...this is the truth. If you want to make more of it then go for it...i know the truth as I was part of why the boards are being altered.

:D SRY man - my eyes ran to fast, did't see that part of Ya post.

So we're talking about hardware modifications - nothing to do with BIOS - how can I recognise if my board is a modified ?

I mean if I get a "before release board" and flash BIOS to 1.26 it will be not the same as I'd get a modified board.

So BIOS version is not the right tool to see what board I'll get.

:toast:

[H2OGun]

Those boards will not have the hardware changes to make them even better....why do boards always leak out early :confused: :confused:

Don't know about that. And please don't take this the wrong way, Tony. I don't doubt you, okay? FYI: I learned from the local Authorized Distributor that the second batch of shipment is going out from DFI Taiwan today and will arrive early next week. Why on earth DFI keeps shipping out the boards if there will be hardware changes required?

[Alexwai]

As far as i know 125 is a rough and 126 was a recompile of the same bios...so how you see higher clocks i don't know :confused:

The changes made to 125 and 126 are very important and its a must you all run these files or later when the boards hit the shelves.

The highest FSB for the old BIOS was 280 while it is 286 in BIOS 126. All testing config are the same. I have been using A64 3000+.

[dnavarro]

Tony, if we get a board with bios 1.25 or 1.26 will we be ok? Does that mean we will get an "official board"? Anything ealrier (bios wise) means it wasn't updated? Just clarifying. Thank you,

D

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:confused: What about the serial number, a from - to for non official boards would help !!!

:toast:

[dnavarro]

Guys, I emailed tech support at DFI and Mr. Frank Wong gave me some good info. If you can check boards available in your area for what he states. Here's his reply...

XXXX,


Please check the bar code sticker on the edge of the last PCI slot when you receive the board. On the bottom right of the sticker, there’ll have something like R.A00, R.AB0…to indicate the revision of the board. The R.A00 or R.AB0 stands for the revision A. that’s a final release board. If it lists R.PR22 or R.PR with different #, that’s an engineer sample. We are not allowed to sell engineer samples to customers.



Frank


Frank Wong
Technical Support Manager
DFI San Jose




I want to thank Frank for his clarification. Now anyone with a board check it!


D

[xgman]

good info.

[H2OGun]

But, I hope that's not a general DFI rule that does not apply for this specific board. You know, it was a very last minute changes, right?

Anyway, I am happy for now since I saw this on mine. :banana:

http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun//Picture-014s.JPG

[dnavarro]

I guess we would need DFI to tell us otherwise. But they aren't talking :stick: (except for Frank :D ). But I think you should be ok. BTW, how's yours clocking atm? I guess it doesn't matter if your performance is good! :toast:

D

[H2OGun]

I guess we would need DFI to tell us otherwise. But they aren't talking :stick: (except for Frank :D ). But I think you should be ok. BTW, how's yours clocking atm? I guess it doesn't matter if your performance is good! :toast:

D

It's a very nice board. My RAMs are doing better on this board than any others I've tried. My OCZ VX can do 260 for the very first time. The new BIOS really gave a big boost.

http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachments/forumid_13/bPZd_ocz-vx-260s.jpg

[Tony]

The word i have is boards are being modified and have been for 2 days or so. So the situation is this....if you jump now and get a board with 121 or earlier bios you got an old one.If you get a board with 126 bios and the package is sealed you got a fully finalised board which is good to go. Most boards will hit the stores in a few days so again i would look for the official stores to have official boards.

If you have a board that came with 119 bios etc that will probably not have all the hardware changes etc....once you flash you will have a good board but it won't be as good as the later ones.

Lasly you must flash to the 126 bios to get the board overclocking better.

[H2OGun]

Oh, Thanks for the cold shower Tony. That's okay though. At worst, just buy another board. Luckily that is the cheapest component in the whole setup. :D

[xgman]

But, I hope that's not a general DFI rule that does not apply for this specific board. You know, it was a very last minute changes, right?

Anyway, I am happy for now since I saw this on mine. :banana:




I thought only R.A00 and R.AB0 were the fianl ones? :confused:

[H2OGun]

I thought only R.A00 and R.AB0 were the fianl ones? :confused:

I take it that anything start with R.A0# and R.B# are final. The number may indicate minor revision or something. The email only mentioned that R.PR22 or R.PR are pre-release.

Anyway, there is no point arguing about this though since we may never know the truth. I own the board already and if necessary, I will own a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th of the same board. Heck, I just spent >$1000 for 2 x 6800U. What's $150 compared to that, right? I know a lot people took a plunge with an even worse board (A8N anyone?)

[kraggy]

The word i have is boards are being modified and have been for 2 days or so. So the situation is this....if you jump now and get a board with 121 or earlier bios you got an old one.If you get a board with 126 bios and the package is sealed you got a fully finalised board which is good to go. Most boards will hit the stores in a few days so again i would look for the official stores to have official boards.

If you have a board that came with 119 bios etc that will probably not have all the hardware changes etc....once you flash you will have a good board but it won't be as good as the later ones.

Lasly you must flash to the 126 bios to get the board overclocking better.


Tony, does DFI use Winflash or its own inhouse equivalent? Or do we use the old floppy>boot>exe.>bam method?

[cantankerous]

I'm going to wait awhile before I buy a board. Make sure the initial ones are sold out so the next shipment will definately be the finalised board. I just know I will buy one and it won't be the latest. I'd be pissed.

[Tony]

I'm going to wait awhile before I buy a board. Make sure the initial ones are sold out so the next shipment will definately be the finalised board. I just know I will buy one and it won't be the latest. I'd be pissed.
wise words

[Tony]

you can use winflash or awdflash...i flash off a cdrom now and its all good ;)

[BeachKEN]

THNX for the info, but, if someone mod the Ultra board to full SLI, there should be some SLI improvement, the question is, how can this board handle full SLI potential, if the bridge is needed to connect 2 cards into the full SLI system, there won´t be any improvement at all and it shouldn´t work, right?

Or just to buy or get anywhere the SLI bridge?

any ideas ?

Tony, are you able to try the DXG ?

[Tony]

Your board maybe ok here, the 126 is a very good bios and does improve the ram overclocking.

I don't think many boards are out there that are not finals so we are probably being paranoid here.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D What a crazy kind of panic - I never heard of something else like this.

So it's good to know we're at a point we all can identify the boards we will get - nice !!! THX all people who worked out !!!

But one question will be unanswered: Who will loose his job at DFI for sending away boards which should have never come into the stores......:cord:


:toast:

[cantankerous]

I know I am.... being paranoid that is. Tony, to get 3.5v on your VX like you stated in your tests what did you need your 3.3v rail at at your psu? Does it fluctuate or dip at all? I ask because unlike others powerstreams that seem to get 3.8+v on their 3.3v rail mine maxes out at 3.67 and even that is borderline. The psu is shutting itself down at those volts. =(. I was hoping for more to get at least 3.6v on my VX.

I thought the 3.3v-3.8v was part of the specs? Why is mine undercutting?

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

I know I am.... being paranoid that is. Tony, to get 3.5v on your VX like you stated in your tests what did you need your 3.3v rail at at your psu? Does it fluctuate or dip at all? I ask because unlike others powerstreams that seem to get 3.8+v on their 3.3v rail mine maxes out at 3.67 and even that is borderline. The psu is shutting itself down at those volts. =(. I was hoping for more to get at least 3.6v on my VX.

I thought the 3.3v-3.8v was part of the specs? Why is mine undercutting?

:confused: Hm, maybe I don't understand but why don't Ya use the 5-V-rail to get 3,6 for Ya RAM - Ya know the jumper ???

:toast:

[cantankerous]

Well everyone is saying it gets mega hot. If something doesn't fail at first it may down the road and positioning a fan in the needed area would be hard.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Well everyone is saying it gets mega hot. If something doesn't fail at first it may down the road and positioning a fan in the needed area would be hard.

:D Nah - MOSFETS only get extremly hot if Ya use the 5-V-rail and give less than 3,3 to Ya RAM, 3,6 will be O.K.

I use the booster on a NEO2 and pluged in my BH-5 3 days ago, they're running with 3,9 Vdimm for that time. Booster uses the same tecnology than DFI on it's boards.

Have a 120mm fan blowing to the RAM area - try to mount it with a clip at one of Ya HDD cases. I use a clip which Ya find normally in restaurants to fix the papers on the tables, that clip Ya can mount with a screw to Ya fan and then Ya can clip it at the wall of Ya HDD case.

There are two kinds of that clips - the better ones have a feather of steel in it so they can fit tighter than the plastic clips.

Try it - it works !!!

:toast:

[xs64]

I wonder 1 thing :
Can the Ultra-D final released mod to turn SLI ?
Maybe DFI delay the release day to modify the Ultra chipset and cant mod to SLI anymore ?

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

I wonder 1 thing :
Can the Ultra-D final released can mod to turn SLI ?
Maybe DFI delay the release day to modify the Ultra chipset and cant mod to SLI anymore ?

:D That might be - but if the old MOD doesn't work anymore someone will find a new........ :toast:

[xs64]

:D That might be - but if the old MOD doesn't work anymore someone will find a new........ :toast:
Hope so :rolleyes:

But without the SLI-Bridge ( from Bigtoe ) can we still run DXG :confused:

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Hope so :rolleyes:

But without the SLI-Bridge ( from Bigtoe ) can we still run DXG :confused:

:D Don't get mad on that SLI bridge - after a while I guess You'll be able to buy it in the shops.

:toast:

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

nice they have improved the board for hynix ram also...properly the manufactor that listens most to testers and forums.....

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

@ patrickclouds is there a 2*molex >6 pin pci-e gfx card adaptor inkl...or has any1 seen any with either board or pci-e graphics card????
i have ordered a 6800GT for pci-e and it properly will need additional voltage beside pci-e .....and my psu isnt that fancy :)

[jikdoc]

newegg has one, do a search for e-power vga adapter on their site.

[Patrickclouds]

Fragman']@ patrickclouds is there a 2*molex >6 pin pci-e gfx card adaptor inkl...or has any1 seen any with either board or pci-e graphics card????
i have ordered a 6800GT for pci-e and it properly will need additional voltage beside pci-e .....and my psu isnt that fancy :)

no sorry, there are no pci-e adatpers included.
only a molex>2xs-ata adapter you m can have a look here:

http://patrickclouds.cybton.com/dfi/dfi2.jpg

[xs64]

@ Patrickclouds : where did u buy this mobo ? And the stock Bios is 125 or 126 ? Thx

[Patrickclouds]

@ Patrickclouds : where did u buy this mobo ? And the stock Bios is 125 or 126 ? Thx

i bought it from hpm-computer.de
and the stock bios was from 19th january 2005

[xs64]

i bought it from hpm-computer.de
and the stock bios was from 19th january 2005
Thx for your reply

You seem to be the first one in Germany who have this board soon :toast:

I odered one from HPM too , will report when the board coming :D

[FallenAngel]

Patrick can you make a photo of the rev nr it's R.A0x or something else, thanks I wanted to buy from them too, waiting for money though

[Patrickclouds]

Patrick can you make a photo of the rev nr it's R.A0x or something else, thanks I wanted to buy from them too, waiting for money though

yes it´s R.A00

edit:
an now the pic
http://patrickclouds.cybton.com/dfi/ra00.jpg

[FallenAngel]

thanks, very appreciated

EDIT: I must buy it asap, I'm really anxious...

[Bourch]

Since it can't be found here in Spain (only pre-orders) I just ordered it from www.bytesatwork.be last night. Hope they come with good news on monday

[reject]

oh man, my friend wants me to make him a computer, i could so easily sell him me 754 and get a ultra nf4, luckily he has to save money so AMR and E0 cores can come out, but i really want some new toys!

[formyfaith]

I did heard that the VX doesn't have the divider problem

with the MSI Neo4 MOBO.

But can anybody tell me if there is a divider problem with the VX and the

DFI NF4?

I just want to make sure there are not any problems. ;)

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

I did heard that the VX doesn't have the divider problem

with the MSI Neo4 MOBO.

But can anybody tell me if there is a divider problem with the VX and the

DFI NF4?

I just want to make sure there are not any problems. ;)

:confused: What d'Ya mean with divider problem? Using .5 multis on A64?

This is caused by memory controller and not by RAM......... :stick:

:toast:

[Patrickclouds]

i get always errors, when i run MEMTEST.
the gskill 2x512 LA runs with:
200mhz at 2-2-2-5 1T --> errors
300mhz at 2,5-4-4-8 2T --> errors

i also tested with prime with 200mhz at 2-2-2-5 1T
it runs perfect over 2 hours, but the i wanted to stop that test --> *boom* bluescreen.

wtf could that be?
the board?
the ram?
or me?
:rolleyes:

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

i get always errors, when i run MEMTEST.
the gskill 2x512 LA runs with:
200mhz at 2-2-2-5 1T --> errors
300mhz at 2,5-4-4-8 2T --> errors

i also tested with prime with 200mhz at 2-2-2-5 1T
it runs perfect over 2 hours, but the i wanted to stop that test --> *boom* bluescreen.

wtf could that be?
the board?
the ram?
or me?
:rolleyes:

:D Did Ya try with 2.9 Vdimm? Mine are running stable with that voltage.

BTW MEMTEST sucks - after trying several hours to get a stable setting without errors the rig didn't even boot with it........... :cord:

[Patrickclouds]

i tried with max 2,8 (bios option)--> 2,85real
ok i will try it with 2,9 that should be 2,93 real
but i was a bit confused, that i get errors with 200mhz at 2-2-2-5

edit:
no, with 2,9vdimm i also got errors :eek:

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

i tried with max 2,8 (bios option)--> 2,85real
ok i will try it with 2,9 that should be 2,93 real
but i was a bit confused, that i get errors with 200mhz at 2-2-2-5

edit:
no, with 2,9vdimm i also got errors :eek:

:confused: What revision of MEMTEST do You use? Try the latest....

:toast:

[Patrickclouds]

i´m using memtest 3.2
this should be the newest version
i´ll test the gskill in my shuttle (sn45g)
and an old corsair module on the dfi board

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Well everyone is saying it gets mega hot. If something doesn't fail at first it may down the road and positioning a fan in the needed area would be hard.

:D Here're two pics:

http://de.geocities.com/hardcoreclocker/A64Sys005.jpg

http://de.geocities.com/hardcoreclocker/A64Sys004.jpg

No problem at all - taken on NEO2 but DFI NF4 has almost the same RAM slot position.... :toast:

[Brum Man]

i get always errors, when i run MEMTEST.
the gskill 2x512 LA runs with:
200mhz at 2-2-2-5 1T --> errors
300mhz at 2,5-4-4-8 2T --> errors

i also tested with prime with 200mhz at 2-2-2-5 1T
it runs perfect over 2 hours, but the i wanted to stop that test --> *boom* bluescreen.

wtf could that be?
the board?
the ram?
or me?
:rolleyes:

Have you tried one stick at a time? Could be that you have a faulty stick?

[OPPAINTER]

I did heard that the VX doesn't have the divider problem

with the MSI Neo4 MOBO.

But can anybody tell me if there is a divider problem with the VX and the

DFI NF4?

I just want to make sure there are not any problems. ;)
No problems here.

OPP

[formyfaith]

No problems here.

OPP


So glad to hear that~! :)

I love my VX ;)

[Snowman89]

i´m using memtest 3.2
this should be the newest version
i´ll test the gskill in my shuttle (sn45g)
and an old corsair module on the dfi board
so thats on the dfi right?
i saw the same thing on the msi k8n neo2 :mad: but after some bios changes i fixed it but then it wouldnt be stable above 220fsb even with 3.9v running trough mem :stick:

[xs64]

Where can i download the latest Bios for the SLI-D

I got the board and the stock Bios is 119 , someone can help me please ?

[xgman]

DFI taiwan site has them.

[Revv23]

any word on how 2x512mb BH-5 Clocks?

id like to see 2x512 BH-5 at 3.3 and at 3.6 if someone could...

[Patrickclouds]

i´ve tried only one stick
the first stick passes memtest 3 times without errors
the second stick passes memtest 3 times without errors
then i tried both together in dual channel and i got errors.
so i decided to try both sticks in single channel
and voila they pass memtest 2 times without errors
now i´ll try both sticks in my shuttle in dual channel mode, if they pass , it must be the dfi board that makes the problems in dual channel mode :stick:

here (http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/download_us.jsp?NORMAL_BETA_FLAG=B&SITE=US) you can download the beta bios ;)

[naelq]

which BIOS is it Patrick?! maybe it's BIOS update time! :D :D (IIRC, bigtoe did talk about improvements with RAM...)

[Patrickclouds]

i flashed to the newest bios 126

[Onycho]

After reading all of this I have only one thing to say...

Thank God I didn't have the money to buy the A8N and will be able to go with the DFI!

[Tony]

Guys remember to flash to 126 straight away with your boards, it helps clocking a great deal.

[synergy321]

omg, i want this board. :mad: when is zzf/newegg going to get it :(

[tictac]

Guys remember to flash to 126 straight away with your boards, it helps clocking a great deal.

The bios got Memtest86 build in and cpu test build in

:toast:

[kraggy]

The bios got Memtest86 build in and cpu test build in

:toast:

Hunh? You mean its a seperate program attached to the bios file. Right? I guess I don't understand.

[reject]

they put the cpu test in!
why not for nf3? thats still a new board

[xs64]

How can you guys monitor the temperature ?
I read from the smartgudian soft and it shows 39'C full load @ 277x9 1.4v
:confused:
edit : I forgot to say i'm using the Hyper6

[Snowman89]

i flashed to the newest bios 126
i really hope i dont get that problem, i had it on my msi board so i sold it to go for the dfi :mad:

[goddh0r]

Hey guys, anyone an idea on how i can lock the sata ports for overclocking? I just received the board the day before yesterday, an if i set like 10x275MHz for example, my sata raid in port 1+2 ain't detected and the system wont boot either, just that moment windows is supposed to boot the system does a reset(system disk is on p-ata). if i disable my sata raid everything is just fine, windows boots fully normal then. I already tried sata spread spectrum in bios, but it wouldnt help...
any hints appreciated :stick:

edit: even with sata disabled i have severe problems(bios 126), cant boot into windows anymore at 10x275, i get a bluescreen saying "PFN_LIST_CORRUPT", thats kinda weird, cus my cpu will do 10x275 on any other s939 board... Memory was running at 133 and 166 dividers for testing as well, so it aint about that. 9x275 seems to boot fine...

[tictac]

Do we get the same Rev board as tested by OPP?

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:confused: So what's going on here?

Fist everyone said that's the one and only board, then there was a bug which delayed relaese and now the first boards are out and people only talk about problems..........

So I'm not sure what happens - what about the SATA ports - on NEO2 3+4 are locked very well but which one to use on DFI NF4?

Is there an official comment from DFI?

See now the poeple maxing out this board at 270 - 280, even with the 1.26 BIOS, that's not the deal I expected.

What about OPP & OPB, did they get a modded BETA sample to reach that fantastic speed?

I think we have to talk about - many poeple spent their money to go with the new DFI and nobody did it to be disappointed at all........

I haven't the board yet but will come soon and I know that all my other components are fine, so I can compare the new rig straight away to the NEO2 and if there anything will be faulty nobody can tell me it's the RAM or the CPU......

BTW people who are on single phase 24/7 with the board in a case know what I'm talking about - it's not just funny to change mobo and finding out that rig before was even better - dealing with all that insulation and other things is not done in half an hour.......

So lets hope the best and expect the worst........

:toast:

[Perc]

anyone know when these boards are going to be availble in the states? ive been waiting like the rest of you guys and to keep seeing here and there people buying this mb is driving me crazzy cause i cant get my hands on one...

thx perc,

[googles]

Where can i download the latest Bios for the SLI-D

I got the board and the stock Bios is 119 , someone can help me please ?


xs64...does your mobo say R.A 00 or R.A 01?

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

xs64...does your mobo say R.A 00 or R.A 01?

:D BTW DFI said it doesn't matter - only important that it is no PR.... (pre-released).

:toast:

[googles]

right...ok then. thanks...

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:( Hm - how You all poeple think about my post #583 ???

:toast:

[uranium]

Hardcoreclocker :)
How are you going to cool the chipset on the DFI? Have you found a w/b that might fit?

[xs64]

xs64...does your mobo say R.A 00 or R.A 01?
It's R A 00

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Hardcoreclocker :)
How are you going to cool the chipset on the DFI? Have you found a w/b that might fit?

:D I'd send a mail to 1A cooling and requested if there will come a modded version of their NB cooler that fits.

BTW I'm not 100% sure that won't work, but 99%..............

So I have here a wonderful pure copper cooler with a 50mm fan turns 5000 rpm and if WC will not work I'll take this, I'll mount it on the metal stands to the mobo which I got with the WC kit with screws and the metal clip of a ZAHLMANN chipset cooler so it will be more tightened than the stock mounting with the cheap plastic pins.

:toast:

[philter]

Can anyone who has a board with da new FrontX panel tell us all what exactly ya get with this one and can we add sockets from the LP NFII to this?
Cheers

[uranium]

:D I'd send a mail to 1A cooling and requested if there will come a modded version of their NB cooler that fits.

BTW I'm not 100% sure that won't work, but 99%..............

So I have here a wonderful pure copper cooler with a 50mm fan turns 5000 rpm and if WC will not work I'll take this, I'll mount it on the metal stands to the mobo which I got with the WC kit with screws and the metal clip of a ZAHLMANN chipset cooler so it will be more tightened than the stock mounting with the cheap plastic pins.

:toast:

Thanks :) I think I may head off to the machine shop... I guess both barbs may have to come out of the same end of the block looking at the position wrt the VGA card

BTW I do hope DFI haven't got this wrong (in answer to your post 583). If the SATA lock doesn't work I'm ******. And 270-280 HTT is no better than my Neo2 :mad:

[philter]

:( Hm - how You all poeple think about my post #583 ???

:toast:

I was just thinking the same thing! Glad I haven't had the money ATM to jump on this one!
I guess the best thing is to wait for more peeps to get their hands on one and see, but with alot of people like you already running a NF4 rig it gonna be easier to pin point any problems if they do arise.

[Dumo]

:So I have here a wonderful pure copper cooler with a 50mm fan turns 5000 rpm and if WC will not work I'll take this, I'll mount it on the metal stands to the mobo which I got with the WC kit with screws and the metal clip of a ZAHLMANN chipset cooler so it will be more tightened than the stock mounting with the cheap plastic pins.

:toast:For nfoece4 chipset just be carefull cause the core is fragile like those amd xp ones. I put some neoprane on around it to give a spring like(shims) resistance which a tad higher than the core....
http://img79.exs.cx/img79/2500/chipset7zl.jpg

[cantankerous]

The bios got Memtest86 build in and cpu test build in

:toast:

Are you saying the bios DOES have memtest/cpu test built in or were you asking IF it has it in?

I'm hoping for the initial

Thanks

[tictac]

Are you saying the bios DOES have memtest/cpu test built in or were you asking IF it has it in?

I'm hoping for the initial

Thanks

The 1.26 beta bios got memtest86 & CPU test build in :)

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

For nfoece4 chipset just be carefull cause the core is fragile like those amd xp ones. I put some neoprane on around it to give a spring like(shims) resistance which a tad higher than the core....


:confused: Now You totally confused me - this looks like a large piece and I'm sure if this will fit and the GPU will have still enough space then I also can use my WC block.

http://www.1a-cooling.de/produkte/1a-nb/images/haupt.jpg

:toast:

[uranium]

:confused: Now You totally confused me - this looks like a large piece and I'm sure if this will fit and the GPU will have still enough space then I also can use my WC block.

http://www.1a-cooling.de/produkte/1a-nb/images/haupt.jpg

:toast:

Looking at the pic in post 248, I fear that cooler's barbs/tubes may hit the VGA card..... :(

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Looking at the pic in post 248, I fear that cooler's barbs/tubes may hit the VGA card..... :(

:rolleyes: I also thougt so but look at pic in post #595 - how will it fit? Looks also very large and tall to me............, but DUMO says it works :confused:

:toast:

[uranium]

:rolleyes: I also thougt so but look at pic in post #595 - how will it fit? Looks also very large and tall to me............, but DUMO says it works :confused:

:toast:

HCC- I think Dumo has the Gigabyte NF4 board and the chipset is in a slightly different place to the DFI :(

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

HCC- I think Dumo has the Gigabyte NF4 board and the chipset is in a slightly different place to the DFI :(

:D Ah, now things are quite clear - thanks for explaning !!!

:toast:

[cantankerous]

The 1.26 beta bios got memtest86 & CPU test build in :)

YAY! This is wicked!

Can anyone confirm if this board/bios supports the boot menu during post if you hit esc?

[uranium]

:D Ah, now things are quite clear - thanks for explaning !!!

:toast:

:) So we are back to the problem :( When my stuff arrives I will do some measurements and think about making one

[Patrickclouds]

now i tested superpi 32M three times an i always got another score:

from the first test i have no screenshot but it was 31minutes 01 second

the second test:
http://patrickclouds.cybton.com/dfi/32m@2400.jpg

the third test
http://patrickclouds.cybton.com/dfi/32m@24001.jpg

is this normal? :confused:

[Dumo]

HCC- I think Dumo has the Gigabyte NF4 board and the chipset is in a slightly different place to the DFI :(Thanks for the clarification, sorry its my bad not to mention it. The important thig is just be carefull with nf4 chipset core if you wanna use after market hs.

[uranium]

Thanks for the clarification, sorry its my bad not to mention it. The important thig is just be carefull with nf4 chipset core if you wanna use after market hs.

No worries :) How is the Gigabyte board?

[Dumo]

No worries :) How is the Gigabyte board?It ....wont scale above 290 1:1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51217

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:) So we are back to the problem :( When my stuff arrives I will do some measurements and think about making one

:confused: If WC block won't fit and 1A cooling won't relaese one for the DFI I'll use this here:

http://www.titan-cd.com/images/cuv2_rhs_b.jpg

I've got two kits of it, one is still cooling my AGP card and from the second I only use the fan for active MOSFET cooling.

It's heavy pure copper and working fine, I think a lot of better quality than the cheap stock one.

On socket A I used it also for NB cooling before I put my WC on the NB and there I got exactly the same temperatur on water than on air.

But I'm not sure if it is also on NF4 - here we go with a united NB & SB in one chipset so maybe the heat is a lot more than on socket A.

But it's the only chance I see so far...............

:toast:

[Mastakilla]

:D I'd send a mail to 1A cooling and requested if there will come a modded version of their NB cooler that fits.

BTW I'm not 100% sure that won't work, but 99%..............


:toast:

hehe

sended the same mail a week ago,

i suggest we all do?

im not getting any response though.. :(

hope their customer support is ok

[uranium]

:On socket A I used it also for NB cooling before I put my WC on the NB and there I got exactly the same temperatur on water than on air.

But I'm not sure if it is also on NF4 - here we go with a united NB & SB in one chipset so maybe the heat is a lot more than on socket A.

But it's the only chance I see so far...............

:toast:

I remember reading somewhere that the NF4 chip gets quite hot.... :( I wonder, are DFI still using the magnetically driven fan? I hope it lasts better than the TMD fans of a couple of years ago ;)

[Blindbat]

I remember reading somewhere that the NF4 chip gets quite hot.... :( I wonder, are DFI still using the magnetically driven fan? I hope it lasts better than the TMD fans of a couple of years ago ;)


Magnetic levitation on the chipset, correct. Any better then b4, that is to be seen.

[xs64]

The 1.26 beta bios got memtest86 & CPU test build in :)
How can i use memtest and CPUtest buld in ?

Dont understand that :confused: :confused:

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Magnetic levitation on the chipset, correct. Any better then b4, that is to be seen.

:D THX Blindbat - can You explain "magnetic levitation"? Usually the stock chipsetcoolers are cheap trash, thin alu material and a cheap fan.

So If WC won't work I'd like to replace it with the one shown in #609 but I don't know if it will be recommendet because of the "magnetic levitation" of the stock one.

Can You gimme an advice?

THX! :toast:

[Patrickclouds]

i don´t see memtest or cpu test in the boot menu or is it hidden?

[uranium]

HCC :)

I presume it is like this

http://www.dansdata.com/tmdfan.htm

I think a genuine "magnetically levitated" fan ie one in which the rotor is floating in a magnetic field and there are no bearings at all would be EXTREMELY expensive. I use vacuum pumps at work which are based on that principle and they cost £10,000 :eek:

Edit: looking at the picture of it, I guess its not like the TMD fan. So maybe some sort of magnetic levitation, but also a bearing in the middle

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

HCC :)

I presume it is like this

http://www.dansdata.com/tmdfan.htm

I think a genuine "magnetically levitated" fan ie one in which the rotor is floating in a magnetic field and there are no bearings at all would be EXTREMELY expensive. I use vacuum pumps at work which are based on that principle and they cost £10,000 :eek:

:D O.K. - I see, seems to be hightec and lets hope that it will work for a long time.............

So maybe if the fan itsself is a 50mm one I can remove it from the stock cooler (don't think it's pure copper!!!) and replace it into my copper cooler ?

:toast:

[uranium]

:D O.K. - I see, seems to be hightec and lets hope that it will work for a long time.............

So maybe if the fan itsself is a 50mm one I can remove it from the stock cooler (don't think it's pure copper!!!) and replace it into my copper cooler ?

:toast:

Yes maybe :) Actaully I don't think its like the TMD one cos I can't see any coils on the rotor tips. Still, perhaps it will be quiet, at least ;) I will still look in to making a block when I get the board and video card....

[Blindbat]

:D THX Blindbat - can You explain "magnetic levitation"? Usually the stock chipsetcoolers are cheap trash, thin alu material and a cheap fan.

So If WC won't work I'd like to replace it with the one shown in #609 but I don't know if it will be recommendet because of the "magnetic levitation" of the stock one.

Can You gimme an advice?

THX! :toast:

Magnetic levitation is a process by which the fan wheel spins (turns) not by a pin attached between the fan wheel and a motor, but by an electrical force field surrounding the metal fan and forcing it to turn. Best way to describe it is think of two magnets with the same pole facing each other, they will push themselves away from each other, in this case this magnetic force field is used to make the fan wheel spin.

As far as mobo connection, it's the same as regular fan. So you could take out the existing fan and replace it if you want.

[Blindbat]

i don´t see memtest or cpu test in the boot menu or is it hidden?

If they did the same as the LanParty UT 250GB, try this:

In the Genie-section of the BIOS, where you set the voltages etc., there's a setting named "Memtest86+ Enable"

[tictac]

i don´t see memtest or cpu test in the boot menu or is it hidden?

:hehe: i can assure that Oskar already installed it in bios file... i checked it with my bios tool

Maybe he forgot to include it in bios menu or it is hidden.... :slap:


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23534

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Magnetic levitation is a process by which the fan wheel spins (turns) not by a pin attached between the fan wheel and a motor, but by an electrical force field surrounding the metal fan and forcing it to turn. Best way to describe it is think of two magnets with the same pole facing each other, they will push themselves away from each other, in this case this magnetic force field is used to make the fan wheel spin.

As far as mobo connection, it's the same as regular fan. So you could take out the existing fan and replace it if you want.

:D THX - nice advice, so does anyone here who's already received the board know what material the stock cooler is? Can't imagine it's copper.....

Pure copper always cools a lot better than thin alu.

:toast:

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:hehe: i can assure that Oskar already installed it in bios file... i checked it with my bios tool

Maybe he forgot to include it in bios menu or it is hidden.... :slap:


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23534

:D Hey TICTAC - that's the way we all know You, always an accurate scientist !!! ;)

BTW the BIOS versions You've written for ABIT AN7 are very best I ever had for that board.

Sorry for :off:

:toast:

[Snowman89]

im really hoping that this mobo will be good, im expecting it to ATLEAST hit 350fsb because with my msi i could get 410fsb not stable but 380-390 was 100% stable and the dfi every one says its for overclockers.

Hardcoreclocker- it might be sad but true that the boards sent to reviews and stuff like that have been selected to work very good, reaching high fsb and that the y was good with all diffrent memory types (ust hoping it wont be that) if it is like some says, i ust spent something like 300dollar on a mobo that is crappyer than my msi and thats NOT god :(

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

im really hoping that this mobo will be good, im expecting it to ATLEAST hit 350fsb because with my msi i could get 410fsb not stable but 380-390 was 100% stable and the dfi every one says its for overclockers.

Hardcoreclocker- it might be sad but true that the boards sent to reviews and stuff like that have been selected to work very good, reaching high fsb and that the y was good with all diffrent memory types (ust hoping it wont be that) if it is like some says, i ust spent something like 300dollar on a mobo that is crappyer than my msi and thats NOT god :(

:D True words my friend - for me it's even more to spend, I need a new PCI-E GPU because I'm still on AGP so I ordered a LEADTEK 6600GT EXTREME for about $250 plus price of the board - that's reality.

:toast:

[Patrickclouds]

no, i cannot find memtest in the bios.
and it´s not possible to get more than 3,2vdimm in the bios.
i´ve placed the jumper to get 4vdimm, but i can only see 3,2 available
is the reason my 20 pin atx psu or is there something wrong wih this bios

[Magnj]

if u listen to that fan on the website it sounds loud as...well loud. But maybe it was realy close. Those sound liek they would make sweet case fans

[Snowman89]

:D True words my friend - for me it's even more to spend, I need a new PCI-E GPU because I'm still on AGP so I ordered a LEADTEK 6600GT EXTREME for about $250 plus price of the board - that's reality.

:toast:
pretty funny i sold my 9800pro agp and bought the same graphic card as you :toast: so i spend something like 550 now and i really hope it works good because other it will be the first and last time i got a dfi mobo!

edit:ust read what patrik wrote, so now you cant even get to the 4v in bios that dfi announced in teh beggining!!
2things are ust missing now, the 1st is that sli dont work and the 2th is that it only gives 1.7v to cpu over that the mosfets goes over 200c and catches fire...... :dammit: :grr: :slash:
GJ DFI! :up:

[jjcom]

no, i cannot find memtest in the bios.
and it´s not possible to get more than 3,2vdimm in the bios.
i´ve placed the jumper to get 4vdimm, but i can only see 3,2 available
is the reason my 20 pin atx psu or is there something wrong wih this bios

I wouldn't be surprised. The extra load on the 5v rail may make it nessicary for the 24pin connector

jjcom

[cantankerous]

I wonder how much your 5v rail would dip using that to power 3.6v on your ram plus have optical drives etc going.

[jjcom]

I wonder how much your 5v rail would dip using that to power 3.6v on your ram plus have optical drives etc going.

Good point, maybe the board doesn't think your 5v rail is up to it which brings you back to a 20pin PSU possibly being the issue

jjcom

[Patrickclouds]

i don´t need this high vdimm, because i´m using tccd modules.
i was just interested to see, if i can choose this

[cantankerous]

understandable. That is a good thing about the TCCD. Very low volts needed which is less of a strain on your board and psu, not to mention less heat dissipated.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

pretty funny i sold my 9800pro agp and bought the same graphic card as you :toast: so i spend something like 550 now and i really hope it works good because other it will be the first and last time i got a dfi mobo!

edit:ust read what patrik wrote, so now you cant even get to the 4v in bios that dfi announced in teh beggining!!
2things are ust missing now, the 1st is that sli dont work and the 2th is that it only gives 1.7v to cpu over that the mosfets goes over 200c and catches fire...... :dammit: :grr: :slash:
GJ DFI! :up:

:D Yeah - good choice for a middle priced GPU - the EXTREME is stock clocked 550/1120 and does 590/1340 without any problems and it's fan is not noisy.

I never heard of flaming MOSFETS on DFI NF4 if You go above 1,7 Vcore - don't hope so, my FX needs 1,8 to be maxed out at 3.360....... :confused:

So all in all we spent the same ammount of money and share the same kind of hope.....

BTW, take a look at the MSI SLI DIAMOND thread - just somebody postet stable 9 x 355 :stick:

I hope DFI will not be a disapointment.

:toast:

[apu673]

Where'd you get the Leadtek Extreme version for 250?

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Where'd you get the Leadtek Extreme version for 250?

:D NORSKIT Europe - 188 €, the product state was a long time "delivery unknown" and then suddenly overnight it went to "in stock" and I had good luck to catch one - 2 days later they're out again and now priced at 200 € and not in stock anymore.

:toast:

[Tony]

no, i cannot find memtest in the bios.
and it´s not possible to get more than 3,2vdimm in the bios.
i´ve placed the jumper to get 4vdimm, but i can only see 3,2 available
is the reason my 20 pin atx psu or is there something wrong wih this bios
you need to take vcore off auto and set 1.5 to 1.55 manually....then you will see upto 4V.

make sure you flash to the 125 or 126 bios also.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D O.K. - here we go for Europe, first see - first buy:

DFI NF4 boards (http://search.ebay.de/dfi-nf4_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ0)

:toast:

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

you need to take vcore off auto and set 1.5 to 1.55 manually....then you will see upto 4V.

make sure you flash to the 125 or 126 bios also.

:confused: Ähm, You have to set the Vcore manually to get a higher Vdimm ?

Isn't that a little strange............???

:toast:

[Arnar]

:D O.K. - here we go for Europe, first see - first buy:

DFI NF4 boards (http://search.ebay.de/dfi-nf4_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ0)

:toast:

8 of 10 available ;)

A buddy of mine and me just ordered two ;)

:toast:

[apu673]

NORSKIT Europe - 188 €, the product state was a long time "delivery unknown" and then suddenly overnight it went to "in stock" and I had good luck to catch one - 2 days later they're out again and now priced at 200 € and not in stock anymore.

Ya it's out of stock everywhere on U.S. sites also. What would be the next step down in terms of overclockability, Albatron or Chaintech?

[Malmedahl]

:D O.K. - here we go for Europe, first see - first buy:

DFI NF4 boards (http://search.ebay.de/dfi-nf4_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ0)

:toast:

Ordered one also =)

[Snowman89]

:D Yeah - good choice for a middle priced GPU - the EXTREME is stock clocked 550/1120 and does 590/1340 without any problems and it's fan is not noisy.

I never heard of flaming MOSFETS on DFI NF4 if You go above 1,7 Vcore - don't hope so, my FX needs 1,8 to be maxed out at 3.360....... :confused:

So all in all we spent the same ammount of money and share the same kind of hope.....

BTW, take a look at the MSI SLI DIAMOND thread - just somebody postet stable 9 x 355 :stick:

I hope DFI will not be a disapointment.

:toast:
:D lol :) , i meant that something like thats ust missing to start happend, if you understand what i mean :)

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D Here SLI-D also in stock, SLI-DR and Ultra coming soon:

DFI NF4 SLI-D in stock (http://www.oc-wear.de/assets/own/safedataframe.html?fsrc=http://www.oc-wear.de/)

And here the first charge sold out but next delivery on 2005/02/03 and 04:

All DFI'S (http://www.hpm-computer.de/assets/s2dmain.html?http://www.hpm-computer.de/)

:toast:

[Patrickclouds]

you need to take vcore off auto and set 1.5 to 1.55 manually....then you will see upto 4V.

make sure you flash to the 125 or 126 bios also.

thanks
now it works
the only thing is, that the vcore is selected except then "auto"

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D Back to the question where You can find a PCI-E LEADTEK 6600GT Extreme (Europe) - found 3 shops with it in stock:

6600 GT Extr. (http://www2.atelco.de/7Ltu_JH9WLOiKp/1/articledetail.jsp?aid=4269&agid=393&ref=13)

and

6600 GT Extr. (http://www.passiontec.de/_fenster.php?art_id=443348&ref_id=Geizhals)

and

6600 GT Extr. (http://www.arlt.com/shop/warenkorb.php?subm=get_it&wg=131&wgname=vgacard&artnr=1020680)


:toast:

[mrlobber]

:confused: Ähm, You have to set the Vcore manually to get a higher Vdimm ?

Isn't that a little strange............???

:toast:

Seems to be a bios feature, kind of a protection against the ones who don't know what they're doing so that somebody who's not an overclocker, accidentally doesn't set it to 3.7Vdimm, for example ;)

[psycho303]

hi there, i got mine board on friday from HPM-Germany, bios version was from 19.01. tried over weekend my mushkin bh-5 / tccd's. something is holding me back. what's your max HTT with divider ? dont hope it's cause of the first revision.

psycho303

[GRAFiZ]

I'm starting to wonder if the NF4 chipset is just a poor overclocker. What I mean is, except for the best of the best overclockers, the rest of us are having a hard time with them. Seems all the current boards are flakey, they all have something.

[reject]

i feel sorry for you guys. these new boards looked really good, finally you can ditch your crappy neo 2s, and now your having more bad luck.
the nforce4 is a crappy design but if anyone can work it it will be dfi.
if it wasnt for SLI, and fx 55 was on 754, then the LPUT nf3 would be everyones dream board

[Blindbat]

hi there, i got mine board on friday from HPM-Germany, bios version was from 19.01. tried over weekend my mushkin bh-5 / tccd's. something is holding me back. what's your max HTT with divider ? dont hope it's cause of the first revision.

psycho303

Go back a few pages in this thread, you will see pictures of what the new revision is, look for the sticker on your board.

Lastly follow Tony's advice, and update your bios if it is not the version number Tony refers to.

[xavicl]

Hello im new here but I was watching the dfi posts some weeks ago. I have a 3500+ winch and OCZ plat pc3200 rev2 memory and im looking for a mobo,msi neo4 or dfi ultra. This memory dont likes voltage too much, 2,8V max i think. It is worth to take the dfi mobo or msi neo4 is best for me? my heatskink is xp-90 + enermax.
Thx!

[LoKi2k]

where can i find the 126-bios?! i only find the 125...


thx a lot!

[|SiLA|]

Hello to all :D

finally got my account validated :) took a while..anyway I just wanted to say my SLi-DR should be here at home in 30 minutes :D shipped friday

cheers
SiLA

[FallenAngel]

where can i find the 126-bios?! i only find the 125...


thx a lot!
someone told some pages back that is in the taiwan DFI site, go check it

[Patrickclouds]

where can i find the 126-bios?! i only find the 125...


thx a lot!

go to the dfi site
--> download
--> beta site
choose the beta bios for your board
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/NF4LD126.exe
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/NF4LD126.zip

and the new bios from today
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/NF4LD131.exe
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/NF4LD131.zip

[LoKi2k]

have someone tested the 131?

[diamonddog]

is this the bios only for the sli or have they all the same bios? I habe the Ultra not the sli board.

[Blindbat]

have someone tested the 131?

Highly doubtfull, if tested, it is happening right now maybe in the UK (bigtoe) with no official results yet, USA side (OPP or Angry Games - possibly bigtoe if he is in USA this week) the beta tester are mostly in USA California not awake yet, time zone difference.

These are like 12 hours old release.

Asia side maybe, only one I can think off is Onepagebook.

So keep an eye out for post from one of these guys.

[Blindbat]

is this the bios only for the sli or have they all the same bios? I habe the Ultra not the sli board.

Beta site links to same bios irrelevant of SLI or Ultra, so 131 also for Ultra.

[goddh0r]

One thing that makes me worry abot my new SLI-D is the fact that i cant get my cpu working with like 10x275 oder 10x280, 10x275 gives me a bluescreen after a while all of sudden(PFN_LIST_CORRUPT, so seems so refer to the memory, even though i was using divider to rule it out), and 10x280 can't even boot through into windows sometimes showing the sams bluescreen like before :( The cpu is capaple of 2860MHz, so it must be about the board! 10x270 is running primestable. Raising chipset voltage wouldnt do the trick either... so i hope its just a bios issue and a new bios can fix it! It aint about the HTT itself either, because 8x300 is working as well...

[FallenAngel]

perhaps the ram, what is your max with it?

[Blindbat]

One thing that makes me worry abot my new SLI-D is the fact that i cant get my cpu working with like 10x275 oder 10x280, 10x275 gives me a bluescreen after a while all of sudden(PFN_LIST_CORRUPT, so seems so refer to the memory, even though i was using divider to rule it out), and 10x280 can't even boot through into windows sometimes showing the sams bluescreen like before :( The cpu is capaple of 2860MHz, so it must be about the board! 10x270 is running primestable. Raising chipset voltage wouldnt do the trick either... so i hope its just a bios issue and a new bios can fix it! It aint about the HTT itself either, because 8x300 is working as well...

Bios 131 specifically adresses boot issue with certain type of ram, maybe give a go to 131 bios.

1. Fixed IR connection failure.
2. Fixed Boot failure when installing certain CL2 memory modules.

[psycho303]

Bios 131 specifically adresses boot issue with certain type of ram, maybe give a go to 131 bios.

that could fix my problem too, mushkin bh5 running well @ 250 1:1 1,5-2-2-0 but setting to 300 @ 166 divider = 245 RAM / hangs at device list boot screen. try it today evening

[situman]

Its scary how many problems there are already, and half the world don't even have it yet. Although I must admit, people are getting better results than the Asus. Let's hope its just the first few batches that has these problems (sorry guys). Although I find it odd that the beta testers didnt seem to have these problems.

[mdzcpa]

Its scary how many problems there are already, and half the world don't even have it yet.


Not really. No offense to anyone in specific, but there is no accounting for the experience, skill level, and supporting equipment of those trying out these boards. I always find that I, personally, have much fewer problems with new kit than those folks who report lots of trouble in the early stages.

Heck, even my Asus SLI is a better board than everyone indicated. I bought it as a "fill in" until the DFI showed up, but I've grown to appreciate it a lot. Not the best OCer HTT wise, but a good all around mobo.

Just food for thought.

[Blindbat]

Its scary how many problems there are already, and half the world don't even have it yet. Although I must admit, people are getting better results than the Asus. Let's hope its just the first few batches that has these problems (sorry guys). Although I find it odd that the beta testers didnt seem to have these problems.

Beta testers are mostlikely the ones that have identified the problems, contrary to normal procedures they have given us a glimpse off their results, but stated from the start... ~ Beta, hence the work and time invested by them, in order for stable boards to be delivered to us.

Hence the delay in shipping boards, and fast maturity of bioses beeing release.

A big thank you to them, and faith in DFI for doing what they do promptly and efficiently.

I am convinced they want to deliver another winner to the market place !

[tictac]

Although I find it odd that the beta testers didnt seem to have these problems.

they might get tweak version
:toast:

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Beta testers are mostlikely the ones that have identified the problems, contrary to normal procedures they have given us a glimpse off their results, but stated from the start... ~ Beta, hence the work and time invested by them, in order for stable boards to be delivered to us.

Hence the delay in shipping boards, and fast maturity of bioses beeing release.

A big thank you to them, and faith in DFI for doing what they do promptly and efficiently.

I am convinced they want to deliver another winner to the market place !

:confused: I wish I only could be half as optimistic as You...... :toast:

[xgman]

At least DFI tries to get it right before shipping. As we all know most don't.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

At least DFI tries to get it right before shipping. As we all know most don't.

:D Yep - that I also see so far - it depends on the point of view.... :toast:

[situman]

Im still waiting patiently for these boards to come out and then patiently wait for the prices to drop, lol. Don't really plan to go Nvidia SLI, but I guess I will see what the ATI or even VIA has to offer in terms of "SLI" functionality. Just want a good step-in into the AMD64 world.

[P_1]

so did 131 put memtest and cpu test into the menu or is it still not there?

[xs64]

so did 131 put memtest and cpu test into the menu or is it still not there?
Still didn't see it yet :mad:

[goddh0r]

perhaps the ram, what is your max with it?

finally i discovered whats going on:

the dfi got trouble using dividers somehow, if i go for 10x280 and mem@333 its a nogo, bluescreen PFN_LIST-CORRUPT, if i set the mem back to 400(which i didnt try before, cuz i thought well with ddr333 im on the safe side anyways), everything's fine, can boot into windows and run applications. This issue still persists with the new bios 131.

[tictac]

I check 1-31 bios the metest86 & CPU test is still in there... maybe oskar forgot to put it in bios menu :(

Anyway here is some voltage information for DFI nForce4 :toast:

#include CPU_VID_Control.h
{
Auto
0.800V
0.825V
0.850V
0.875V
0.900V
0.925V
0.950V
0.975V
1.000V
1.025V
1.050V
1.075V
1.100V
1.125V
1.150V
1.175V
1.200V
1.225V
1.250V
1.275V
1.300V
1.325V
1.350V
1.375V
1.400V
1.425V
1.450V
1.475V
1.500V
1.525V
1.550V
}

#include CPU_VID_Special_Control.h
{
Auto
Above VID * 104%
Above VID * 110%
Above VID * 113%
Above VID * 123%
Above VID * 126%
Above VID * 133%
Above VID * 136%
}

#include LDT_Voltage_Control.h
(
1.20 V
1.30 V
1.40 V
1.50 V
}

#include DRAM_Voltage_Control.h
{
2.50 V
2.60 V
2.70 V
2.80 V
2.90 V
3.00 V
3.10 V
3.20 V
3.30 V
3.40 V
3.50 V
3.60 V
3.70 V
3.80 V
3.90 V
4.00 V
}

#include Chip_Set_Voltage_Control.h
{
1.50 V
1.60 V
1.70 V
1.80 V
}

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

so did 131 put memtest and cpu test into the menu or is it still not there?

:D For me, personally, it doesn't matter - can download it everywhere.

IMHO there are a lot of more important unanswered questions, f.e. why does nobody ecxept OPP and OPB can do 300+ ???

:toast:

[P_1]

well ive never seen a dos based cpu tester b4. i remember some french site wanted to make something called cputest86 but it never got released?

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

well ive never seen a dos based cpu tester b4. i remember some french site wanted to make something called cputest86 but it never got released?

:D Ah, SRY - now I got You - talking about DOS based....., hm, is there any advantage compared to the windows based versions?

:toast:

[P_1]

not corrupting your hd? ;)

[goddh0r]

IMHO there are a lot of more important unanswered questions, f.e. why does nobody ecxept OPP and OPB can do 300+ ???

:toast:

are there indee so many ppl havin trouble? i didnt try much more than 300, but 9x300 was working flawlessy...

[P_1]

are there indee so many ppl havin trouble? i didnt try much more than 300, but 9x300 was working flawlessy...
maybe some people got the non fixed fubarred boards? :down:

[H2OGun]

Got a board from the latest shipment arriving today and it came with BIOS Jan 25. Revision is still A01. Unofficial word is that even the boards from the first shipment last week has been implemented whatever changes necessary. That's why there was a 2-day delay in getting those boards out last time.

Updated with BIOS 1.31 and performance is at least on par with 1.26. Managed to run FX-55 at 10x290 and 9x320 with 1.6v vCore and finished typical benchmarks - SuperPI and 3Dmarks. So far, it's running great with no instability problems at all. :)

Link: http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun//9x320s.JPG

[Snowman89]

:D For me, personally, it doesn't matter - can download it everywhere.

IMHO there are a lot of more important unanswered questions, f.e. why does nobody ecxept OPP and OPB can do 300+ ???

:toast:
marquzz over @ techsweden.org has a beta board (i think, he atleast has a SLI-DR) and he tested 400fsb and it worked perfect, so is it the newer cards that can run high fsb or is it the review samples? :confused:

[Bourch]

Bios embebed apps are a good way to test OC if you are near the hardware limit. Running these apps without booting into windows can prevent you corrupting the OS. It also saves time as you don't need to wait until windows boots each time you get BSOD :banana:

Still waiting the reply from bytesatwork :confused: Can't wait anymore
:brick:

Coluld someone test wich mem dividers are causing problems?

[OPPAINTER]

Bios embebed apps are a good way to test OC if you are near the hardware limit. Running these apps without booting into windows can prevent you corrupting the OS. It also saves time as you don't need to wait until windows boots each time you get BSOD :banana:

Bios embebed apps are for newbs. We've been overcloking for years without it, do things the old fashion way and just overclock like your supose to. Overclocking isn't for everyone!

OPP

[Dumo]

Nice put OPP ;) Guess have to wait untill everyones here put their cpu on this mobo..

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:slobber: Anybody remember this (#70):

BETA sample MOD ??? (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49526&page=3&pp=25&highlight=DFI+NF4)

:toast:

[P_1]

Bios embebed apps are for newbs. We've been overcloking for years without it, do things the old fashion way and just overclock like your supose to. Overclocking isn't for everyone!

OPP
What your saying doesnt make sense. How does using embedded apps make one a newb? :rolleyes: With an embedded app you can test your ocs quicker with no risk of corrupting your hd. This saves the trouble of using a spare hd to test your overclock. With an embedded bios you can start testing your oc's much quicker, therefore making the overclocking proccess more efficient. It doesnt make overclocking easier at all, one still needs to know what they are doing, you cannot just say "OOOOOO I HAVE AN EMBEDDED APP IM A SUPER OVERCLOCKER NOW"... no it doesnt work that way, embedded apps are just tools for overclockers it doesnt replace experience, just makes the proccess smoother for people that know what they are doing.

[OPPAINTER]

embedded apps are just tools for overclockers it doesnt replace experience, just makes the proccess smoother for people that know what they are doing.
Yes it does replace experience.:D

Overclocking takes time and patients. You need to check for both your Max CPU speed and your max mem speed and get it right, and this needs to be done in small increments.
You don't just throw a bunch of numbers in the bios and hope for the best.

OPP

[P_1]

Yes it does replace experience.:D

Overclocking takes time and patients. You need to check for both your Max CPU speed and your max mem speed and get it right, and this needs to be done in small increments.
You don't just throw a bunch of numbers in the bios and hope for the best.

OPP
Who said anything about using random numbers? And if you do use a bunch of random high numbers the board just wont boot and in the worst case(some tard that uses 4v for their ram and 2.1v for their cpu by "mistake") fry their hardware. So in the end it still doesnt replace experience. If you dont like embedded apps, OK. But several other people, including me, welcome this feature.

[OPPAINTER]

What your saying doesnt make sense. How does using embedded apps make one a newb? :rolleyes:.

Can your little app do this for you, I don't think so.

OPP

13x267, OCX VX at 2-2-2-5

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23729&stc=1

[GRAFiZ]

Can your little app do this for you, I don't think so.

OPP

13x267, OCX VX at 2-2-2-5

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23729&stc=1

LOL... I'm waiting for the day when 3d mark 2001 is built into the bios, and using advanced algorithms, will know excatly what your score will be before you even run the benchmark.

[Bourch]

I get embebbed apps like an aditional resource with helps in some situations. I will use them for quick tests in the begining, until I familiarize with new hardware limits. Once I am on the good way, back to prime stress and 3dmark loops. Anyway I don't see them as a replacement to the old fashion methods.

I wish to speak a more rich fluid English an of course with a richer vocabulary :(

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:mad: O.K. - enough is enough - come down guys - this is not the place to win a boxing championship..........

:toast:

[tictac]

well ive never seen a dos based cpu tester b4. i remember some french site wanted to make something called cputest86 but it never got released?

Oskar already install it in 1-31 bios... maybe some1 should ask him how to execute the program :toast:

CBROM V2.07 (C)Award Software 2000 All Rights Reserved.

******** nf4ld131.bin BIOS component ********

No. Item-Name Original-Size Compressed-Size Original-File-Name
================================================== ============================== 0. System BIOS 20000h(128.00K)12ABCh(74.68K)NF4LD131.BIN
1. XGROUP CODE 0E9A0h(58.41K)09E6Ch(39.61K)awardext.rom
2. CPU micro code 01800h(6.00K)0024Ah(0.57K)CPUCODE.BIN
3. ACPI table 05E71h(23.61K)01F7Fh(7.87K)ACPITBL.BIN
4. YGROUP ROM 0F760h(61.84K)0465Ch(17.59K)awardeyt.rom
5. GROUP ROM[ 0] 07BF0h(30.98K)032E5h(12.72K)_EN_CODE.BIN
6. Other(40B5:0000) 02140h(8.31K)00CE4h(3.22K)_ITEM.BIN
7. OEM0 CODE 021C0h(8.44K)008FCh(2.25K)BSMICODE.ROM
8. PCI driver(A) 0C000h(48.00K)064B3h(25.17K)NVRAID.ROM
9. PCI driver(B) 10000h(64.00K)07B05h(30.75K)NVPXES.NIC
10. PCI driver(C) 0F000h(60.00K)071FBh(28.50K)r5_5137.bin
11. LOGO BitMap 4B30Ch(300.76K)059D5h(22.46K)LPLOGO.BMP
12. OEM1 CODE 00090h(0.14K)000AFh(0.17K)MemSetup.rom
13. OEM2 CODE 14628h(81.54K)07F69h(31.85K)MemTest.rom
14. OEM3 CODE 14668h(81.60K)0827Fh(32.62K)CPUTEST.rom

Total compress code space = 5C000h(368.00K)
Total compressed code size = 52831h(330.05K)
Remain compress code space = 097CFh(37.95K)

** Micro Code Information **
Update ID CPUID | Update ID CPUID | Update ID CPUID | Update ID CPUID
------------------+--------------------+--------------------+-------------------00000000 00000000 0039 0048| 00000000 00000000 003A 004A
00000000 00000000 0041 0150|

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Can your little app do this for you, I don't think so.

OPP

13x267, OCX VX at 2-2-2-5

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23729&stc=1

:D Hey OPP - we all know and respect Ya fantastic record - but everybody had been a beginner once and nobody's perfect, do You see ?

BTW - more interesting if the board You use is a stock one or a BETA sample MOD, can You clear it up ???

:toast:

[OPPAINTER]

Well, while I'm at it:D
This mem test thing people use, whats up with that:D
I've never used mem test in my life, never will. They should have left that app in the memory Labs. I hear people complain about not being able to pass mem-test all time.
Who cares about mem-test, I sure don't need it.

Alright, I'm done complaining about these Overclocking apps now:D

OPP

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Well, while I'm at it:D
This mem test thing people use, whats up with that:D
I've never used mem test in my life, never will. They should have left that app in the memory Labs. I hear people complain about not being able to pass mem-test all time.
Who cares about mem-test, I sure don't need it.

Alright, I'm done complaining about these Overclocking apps now:D

OPP

:D I agree - especially because memtest is not a real help for me - got it error free but rig didn't boot at all so something's wrong with it.

Can You answer the question depending Your board?

:toast:

[tictac]

DFI Boot Up logo :toast:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23753

[OPPAINTER]

:D Hey OPP - we all know and respect Ya fantastic record - but everybody had been a beginner once and nobody's perfect, do You see

Well then beginers should read the "How To Overclock Guide 101" then. Like most of us did.

BTW - more interesting if the board You use is a stock one or a BETA sample MOD, can You clear it up ???

I have no Idea about my board. I can tell you it doesn't have the final mods on it though, they are supose to send one of those to me this week.

The board I have here runs great, rock solid, 4V mem works all that.

OPP

[Snowman89]

DFI Boot Up logo :toast:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23753
thats nice! :slobber: :toast:

[tictac]

DFI PC Health Status :toast:

CPU Core Voltage :
LDT Bus Voltage :
ATX +3.3V Voltage :
ATX +5.0V Voltage :
ATX +12V Voltage :
Chip Set Voltage :
DRAM 2.5V Voltage :
ATX +5VSB Voltage :
Battery Voltage :
CPU CORE Temperature :
PWM AREA Temperature :
CHIP SET Temperature :
CPU FAN Fan Speed :
FAN 2 Fan Speed :
CHIP SET Fan Speed :

DFI Memory Option

Command Per Clock (CPC)
Auto
Enable
Disable


CAS Latency Control (Tcl)
Auto
1.5
2.0
3.0
3.5
1.0
2.5
4.0
4.5

RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)
Auto
00 Bus Clock
01 Bus Clock
02 Bus Clocks
03 Bus Clocks
04 Bus Clocks
05 Bus Clocks
06 Bus Clocks
07 Bus Clocks

Min RAS# active time(Tras)
Auto
00 Bus Clock
01 Bus Clock
02 Bus Clocks
03 Bus Clocks
04 Bus Clocks
05 Bus Clocks
06 Bus Clocks
07 Bus Clocks
08 Bus Clocks
09 Bus Clocks
10 Bus Clocks
11 Bus Clocks
12 Bus Clocks
13 Bus Clocks
14 Bus Clocks
15 Bus Clocks

Row precharge time (Trp)
Auto
00 Bus Clock
01 Bus Clock
02 Bus Clocks
03 Bus Clocks
04 Bus Clocks
05 Bus Clocks
06 Bus Clocks
07 Bus Clocks

Row cycle time (Trc):
Auto
07 Bus Clocks
08 Bus Clocks
09 Bus Clocks
10 Bus Clocks
11 Bus Clocks
12 Bus Clocks
13 Bus Clocks
14 Bus Clocks
15 Bus Clocks
16 Bus Clocks
17 Bus Clocks
18 Bus Clocks
19 Bus Clocks
20 Bus Clocks
21 Bus Clocks
22 Bus Clocks

Row refresh cyc time(Trfc):
Auto
09 Bus Clocks
10 Bus Clocks
11 Bus Clocks
12 Bus Clocks
13 Bus Clocks
14 Bus Clocks
15 Bus Clocks
16 Bus Clocks
17 Bus Clocks
18 Bus Clocks
19 Bus Clocks
20 Bus Clocks
21 Bus Clocks
22 Bus Clocks
23 Bus Clocks
24 Bus Clocks

Row to Row delay (Trrd):
Auto
00 Bus Clock
01 Bus Clock
02 Bus Clocks
03 Bus Clocks
04 Bus Clocks
05 Bus Clocks
06 Bus Clocks
07 Bus Clocks

Write recovery time (Twr) :
Auto
02 Bus Clocks
03 Bus Clocks

Write to Read delay (Twtr):
Auto
01 Bus Clock
02 Bus Clocks

Read to Write delay (Trwt):
Auto
01 Bus Clock
02 Bus Clocks
03 Bus Clocks
04 Bus Clocks
05 Bus Clocks
06 Bus Clocks
07 Bus Clocks
08 Bus Clocks

There are many more... too lazy to check them all
Nice bios... oskar wu :toast:

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D THX OPP ;)

@TICTAC:

Why don't You ask OSCAR about the embeddet thingies.......,You're not so far away :banana:

:toast:

[Dumo]

For me oc is just for benchmarking...simple (and no memtest, pifast etc...those are for the labs). As long as it stable and can finished benching with the highest vcore/htt/fsb and highest core/mem on vid. card then is ok. :toast:

[tictac]

:D THX OPP ;)

@TICTAC:

Why don't You ask OSCAR about the embeddet thingies.......,You're not so far away :banana:

:toast:

Hexus PiFast 4.3 in dos kernel would be cool :toast:

[Alexandrus]

OPP, nioce put, you're quite right, except for that memtest. If you're looking for a 24/7 stable rig, you simply need it when you OC.

[OPPAINTER]

OPP, nioce put, you're quite right, except for that memtest. If you're looking for a 24/7 stable rig, you simply need it when you OC.
Gotta 24/7 rig right here at 270x10, runs flawless.

OPP

[skate2snow]

Hey, why you guys all want to go back in DOS?:D

Seriously I dont think we need those. The challenge is to be able to get it stable for the bench, which runs in windows. If it is stable DOS who cares?

[OPPAINTER]

Hey, why you guys all want to go back in DOS?:D

Seriously I dont think we need those. The challenge is to be able to get it stable for the bench, which runs in windows. If it is stable DOS who cares?
Well said my overclocking brother :toast:

OPP

[psycho303]

finally i discovered whats going on:

the dfi got trouble using dividers somehow, if i go for 10x280 and mem@333 its a nogo, bluescreen PFN_LIST-CORRUPT, if i set the mem back to 400(which i didnt try before, cuz i thought well with ddr333 im on the safe side anyways), everything's fine, can boot into windows and run applications. This issue still persists with the new bios 131.

somebody used dividers already ? i got same problem with ddr333, have to test new bios now. what type of rams do you use ?

psycho303

[OPPAINTER]

All the dividers worked fine for me on my board, I tested them with VX memory.

OPP

[xgman]

Usa says boards arriving Tues. :)

[psycho303]

somebody used dividers already ? i got same problem with ddr333, have to test new bios now. what type of rams do you use ?

psycho303

flashed 131 now, and it WORKS ! :banana4: can run my mushkins bh5 with 333 divider now ! good work DFI !

CMOS reloaded is one of the most inovative features :toast:

hope cpu/memtest comes soon :)

[goddh0r]

somebody used dividers already ? i got same problem with ddr333, have to test new bios now. what type of rams do you use ?

psycho303

im using Geil Ultra-X, and the issue is only occuring with multiplier 10, multiplier 9 is working fine with ddr333 divider

[Mag Master 21]

I too don't know why everyone is so obsessed with prime and memtest.. Both take way too long, and I normally can't wait more than 5 minutes.. You can have a peace of mind much quicker by running Lobby Hi or SP 1m, then, if you really want to get fancy, you can run a 32m run..

[D_o_S]

Tictac, are BIOSes in C++? I noticed the #include parameter...

[P_1]

Hey, why you guys all want to go back in DOS?:D

Seriously I dont think we need those. The challenge is to be able to get it stable for the bench, which runs in windows. If it is stable DOS who cares?
Well said my overclocking brother :toast:

OPP
your idea of overclocking is different from mine. Mine is to get the highest clock while being stable at everything not just a bench to get the top score. I want a clock that performs under everything not just a single app. So im betting u never used prime 95 either, cpu tester would be just like prime 95 taht just doesnt load from windows.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

your idea of overclocking is different from mine. Mine is to get the highest clock while being stable at everything not just a bench to get the top score. I want a clock that performs under everything not just a single app. A so im betting u never used prime 95 either, cpu tester would be just like prime 95 taht just doesnt load from windows.

:D If You ever tried to run a 3D mark with Ya rig You wouldn't have to give such comments here - or do You think OPP's rig went through it without beeing 100 % stable ???

:toast:

[P_1]

:D If You ever tried to run a 3D mark with Ya rig You wouldn't have to give such comments here - or do You think OPP's rig went through it without beeing 100 % stable ???

:toast:
err i can run prime 95 while running 3dmark and 3dmark wouldnt even fail while prime does shortly after. In my experiences 3dmark stable doesnt mean your stable in every app.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

err i can run prime 95 while running 3dmark and 3dmark wouldnt even fail while prime does shortly after. In my experiences 3dmark stable doesnt mean your stable in every app.

:D Hm - never made that experience - thought it always was a hard job to pass 3D mark without any errors........., BTW I use SuperPI to test stability,the quick 1M for a fast check of new settings and 32M in the end.

:toast:

[skate2snow]

I dont understand you. OPP is one of the biggest overclocker, and you argue with him on the subject of what is overclocking / how to overclocking / which utility to use?

And from another of the biggest overclockers rig (Hipro5 sig...) : If you can read this, then you aren't "well" Overclocked yet...!!!

[P_1]

I dont understand you. OPP is one of the biggest overclocker, and you argue with him on the subject of what is overclocking / how to overclocking / which utility to use?

And from another of the biggest overclockers rig (Hipro5 sig...) : If you can read this, then you aren't "well" Overclocked yet...!!!
im not arguing about what overclocking is. It is different for everyone, for me it is to get the highest clock while being stable at everything. Not just stable for a bench. Again from my experiences sometimes my system will pass everything except for prime, and it shows later on when files start disappearing out of no where.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

I dont understand you. OPP is one of the biggest overclocker, and you argue with him on the subject of what is overclocking / how to overclocking / which utility to use?

And from another of the biggest overclockers rig (Hipro5 sig...) : If you can read this, then you aren't "well" Overclocked yet...!!!

:D Don't know if he's one of the "biggest" (on avatar he doesn't really look fat), but he's sure one of the greatest....... :toast:

[googles]

:D Hm - never made that experience - thought it always was a hard job to pass 3D mark without any errors........., BTW I use SuperPI to test stability,the quick 1M for a fast check of new settings and 32M in the end.

:toast:


yea 1M is more of benching...whreas 8M or higher is to test for stability...

many times i have been able to pass 1M, 2M, even 4M but failed 8M with my ocs.

[D_o_S]

Lets return back to the DFI shall we? You can discuss overclocking ethics somewhere else. :off:

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D Yep - and always watch Ya MOSFETS at 32M if they're not active cooled - if You have bad luck You'll see some flames coming out.... :toast:

[uwackme]

Any idea if the x16 to (2) x8 switchover will work on boards other than Video....

ex: X800XT and a SCSI raid controller? Was thinking 2 74G 15K scsi drives in raid0 as a way to get some disk performance. LSI has a x8 PCIE controller.

Question, how safe is 1.6V on the X800XTPE GPU? My temps hit the low 60'sC at max load.... Im at 600/600 on air at the moment. Strock was 1.385V and hit ceiling of 545Mhz core stock. My ram is 2.20/2.25 vdd/ddq at the moment.

[mrlobber]

Lets return back to the DFI shall we? You can discuss overclocking ethics somewhere else. :off:

Agree here. Where was the last post which contained any valuable information (test report, actual experience) on the DFI board or related discussion? 2 pages ago?

[Blindbat]

Any idea if the x16 to (2) x8 switchover will work on boards other than Video....

ex: X800XT and a SCSI raid controller? Was thinking 2 74G 15K scsi drives in raid0 as a way to get some disk performance. LSI has a x8 PCIE controller.



Afraid not sadly, SLI or Ultra if you install only 1 graphic card, the other PEG slot defaults to x2. Not 100% sure if the jumper setting would change that mind u.

Maybe one day we will see a user programmable crossbar matrix, allowing the user to assign the number of channels per slots, with all physical slot connectors being x16...hint hint!

[P_1]

Any idea if the x16 to (2) x8 switchover will work on boards other than Video....

ex: X800XT and a SCSI raid controller? Was thinking 2 74G 15K scsi drives in raid0 as a way to get some disk performance. LSI has a x8 PCIE controller.

Question, how safe is 1.6V on the X800XTPE GPU? My temps hit the low 60'sC at max load.... Im at 600/600 on air at the moment. Strock was 1.385V and hit ceiling of 545Mhz core stock. My ram is 2.20/2.25 vdd/ddq at the moment.
it will work if u set the jumpers correctly ( will work on other boards as well as long as u have that little pcb thing plugged the right way)

[googles]

can someone fab a homemade sli-bridge? hipro5? :D

[cantankerous]

:D Yep - and always watch Ya MOSFETS at 32M if they're not active cooled - if You have bad luck You'll see some flames coming out.... :toast:

Are you serious? Can those things actually catch fire?

[Alexandrus]

Gotta 24/7 rig right here at 270x10, runs flawless.

OPP
I am sure you do, but memtest helps to quickly determine if the RAM is OK under heavy OC, so why not use it ? I used it very few times, but I have used it, and it saved me a lot of time.
Anyway, let's get back to the topic.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Are you serious? Can those things actually catch fire?

:D Just a bit kidding, think running 32M won't cause this but I heard that it happened to people - maybe they dealed to much with the voltages.... ;)

BTW active cooling for MOSFETS is always a good idea - did it on all my baords.

:toast:

[cantankerous]

hehehe well Ill see what I can do to improve air flow in my case. Fire or not just having a part die sucks big time.