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Toro 45
03-30-2005, 08:12 PM
PC3500 Level I (2-3-3) --chip--> Winbond CH-5

Is this correct? CH-5 on all Level one Mushkin PC3500


I have a gig of these but never new what chips they were due to the heat spredders, they would barely do 215mhz2-3-3-10 on my NF7 2.9V and no higher at any timmings. Now on my DFI board I did notice when I gave them 3.1V they went to 234fsb 2.5-3-3 but never pushed the voltage beyond that. If they are CH-5 how much voltage can they take and what speed is possible?

Punisher!
03-30-2005, 10:12 PM
So Punisher!, what do you think :confused:
Not convince ? you need photos ?
There is no need to distinguish the revision. CH5 are gone and BH5 too.

Now just New BH5 and New CH5 (UTT) with new dies (first B and second C) are being produced. So when we speak of UTT and New BH5 all people know what we are talking about.



If you had photos of your JEDEC PCB it would be better.

KoNiaK
03-31-2005, 03:04 AM
Punisher!> Saw some photos, but don't have any. Did you see that:

Just to confirm..... I have both the TMSP and TMII UTT (Both AA4T) gigs and neither have the BP PCB..... got them at Newegg.com in the states.

About the chip you're right, I guess people can make the difference, but it's very confusing :/

HousERaT> What is 'TMII' ?

Punisher!
03-31-2005, 03:42 AM
Punisher!> Saw some photos, but don't have any. Did you see that:
Nope.

REDKEN
03-31-2005, 04:02 AM
subscription
I want to know this too. Upgrading as soon as they come out:
where can I buy G.SKILL PC4800(DDR600 1T) (2.5-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) (F1-3200DSU2-512FF/1GBFF)?

DltdApS
03-31-2005, 04:52 AM
some XMS-PC3200LL Rev1.1/2.1 (2-2-2-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-5

is rated 2-3-2-6-1T but it's winbond bh-5 ;)

God_Lx
03-31-2005, 05:23 AM
PC3500 Level I (2-3-3) --chip--> Winbond CH-5

Is this correct? CH-5 on all Level one Mushkin PC3500


I have a gig of these but never new what chips they were due to the heat spredders, they would barely do 215mhz2-3-3-10 on my NF7 2.9V and no higher at any timmings. Now on my DFI board I did notice when I gave them 3.1V they went to 234fsb 2.5-3-3 but never pushed the voltage beyond that. If they are CH-5 how much voltage can they take and what speed is possible?

If they-re CH-5 they i'll do better... (Or maybe not all CH-5 is that great) i have some CH-5 and it does 215Mhz 2-2-2-5 @ 2.7vdimm (Didn't try higher even) (They do 2-2-2-5 @ 200Mhz with default vdimm but i get some memtest errors...)

Toro 45
03-31-2005, 05:39 AM
Damn!! diamonds in the rough, last night I pulled out my new Twinmos chips and threw in the "old" Mushkin, set them to 200 3.1V. 2-2-2-8 and they passed memtest for the first time ever at those timimgs. 205,210,215, 220, 225, 230, 235passed and then failed at 240. Upped the voltage to 3.2V and 240fsb passed. I tried 3.3V with no improvement.

The major difference here is my PSU I was using a 400W Coolmax and bought a new Fortron530W on Monday, this was the first time I could get them over 215 at any timings. To think I was actually thinking about getting rid of them a while back, now there performing better than my Twinmos. Sure glad I stumbled across this thread, I'm tempted to try 3.4V, does CH-5 like the higher voltage? :toast:

God_Lx
03-31-2005, 05:45 AM
Nice to have helped :P I myself am hoping that mine will do at least the same ;) (I'm waiting for my cpu to try it out :P )

Lestat
03-31-2005, 05:49 AM
G.Skill FF DDR600 isnt available yet that i have seen anywhere.


and also i have a few things to say about the OCZ PC3200 EL Plat Rev 2

you claim almost always 300+mhz.. your dreaming, your living a lie.
if you have 300+ mhz OCZ Plat rev 2 then your lucky
personally i think the ram is total crap ive had 2 kits of it and neither one would go over 290 2.5-4-4- or 2.5-3-3- 1T or 2T

2 different AMD64 systems and 2 different Intel systems.

in order to hit and go over 300mhz i had to use a 5:6 divider which is worthless..It proves nothing. and i think i had to use a 2T setting but i cant recall.
hell my OCZ EL Gold PC4000 Rev 2 did 320mhz @ 2.5-4-4-8 1T with a 9:10 divider. which is only 180mhz where as 5:6 is 166mhz

the Plat rev 2 wont do squat with a 9/10 divider.

i think you need to remove that plat rev 2 off the 300+ list and put it into a 275+ catagory. cuz after 275mhz even in single channel single stick it pukes out. although i got to 290 2.5-4-4-8 2T yes 2T well isnt that just special,, its meaningless to go 2T unless your just trying to puch your cpu ghz higher.

Punisher!
03-31-2005, 06:10 AM
G.Skill FF DDR600 isnt available yet that i have seen anywhere.


and also i have a few things to say about the OCZ PC3200 EL Plat Rev 2

you claim almost always 300+mhz.. your dreaming, your living a lie.
if you have 300+ mhz OCZ Plat rev 2 then your lucky
personally i think the ram is total crap ive had 2 kits of it and neither one would go over 290 2.5-4-4- or 2.5-3-3- 1T or 2T

2 different AMD64 systems and 2 different Intel systems.

in order to hit and go over 300mhz i had to use a 5:6 divider which is worthless..It proves nothing. and i think i had to use a 2T setting but i cant recall.
hell my OCZ EL Gold PC4000 Rev 2 did 320mhz @ 2.5-4-4-8 1T with a 9:10 divider. which is only 180mhz where as 5:6 is 166mhz

the Plat rev 2 wont do squat with a 9/10 divider.

i think you need to remove that plat rev 2 off the 300+ list and put it into a 275+ catagory. cuz after 275mhz even in single channel single stick it pukes out. although i got to 290 2.5-4-4-8 2T yes 2T well isnt that just special,, its meaningless to go 2T unless your just trying to puch your cpu ghz higher.

Just unlucky.

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2226&p=20

Snowman89
03-31-2005, 07:21 AM
http://www.datorbutiken.com/se/default.php?artId=256DDRAD450
what is that for ram?
isnt on adatas homepage either :confused:

dimasdw
04-01-2005, 03:31 AM
OCZ Technology
EL DDR PC-3200(DDR400)
Dual Channel Gold
512MB×2
2-2-2-5 Timings at 2.8V

What this RAM chip bh-5 or UTT ? it has same Price with the VX series in japan :)

Ashe
04-01-2005, 03:35 AM
It should be bh5, never heard of any UTT doing 2-2-2 @2.8V ;)

dimasdw
04-01-2005, 07:28 AM
It should be bh5, never heard of any UTT doing 2-2-2 @2.8V ;)
the shop said this chip is BH5 to..acording to this picture http://ocworks.com/images/memory_ocz_pc3200_gold_chip.jpg
anyone has test this ram ?

Wired-HoH
04-01-2005, 03:24 PM
Hey guys, thought I'd post some tweaks / corrections to the Corsair list. I'm one of the admins of the House of Help, which hosts the Official Corsair Support Forum, and we get asked which ICs are in which revision a lot. Unfortunately, the revision itself isn't enough to definitively state what IC is used, the lot # is needed as well.

CLOSED THREAD - Corsair Ram & Memory Chips Used (http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showthread.php?t=20550&page=12&pp=15) - replaced by the next thread
IC Inquiry Thread (http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showthread.php?t=35940)
How To Read the Memory Label (http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showthread.php?t=34461)


If you would like to know which IC your memory has, just follow the instructions in the IC Inquiry Thread and post within it.

Anyway, I've been keeping a list of what ICs are used with what part #, version #, and lot # and updating it whenever an official answer is given out on that specific combo. Here are some of the tweaks/corrections/confirmations, along with how many sticks I've seen of that part # / revision # combo:


XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.0 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-5 v1.0 Winbond -5 Rev C (1 stick)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.1/2.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-6 v1.1 Winbond -6 Rev B (4 sticks)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.2/2.2 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-6 v1.2 Winbond -5 Rev C (1 stick) v2.2 Winbond -6 Rev C (1 stick)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev3.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Infineon Rev B -5 v3.1 Infineon -5 (2 sticks)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD v4.x Infineon Rev B -5 or Samsung -5 TCCX (TCC4 or TCC5 or TCCD) (9 sticks)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD & TCC5
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev5.1/6.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Mosel Vitelic 5ns v5.x Promos -5 Rev A or Mosel -5 Rev A (8 sticks)

Additions:
XMS-PC4000 Rev3.1 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Samsung -5 TCCC (2 sticks)

As for all of the Brainpower markings on the Corsair list here:
we design our own PCB's, we do however use brain power to make some of our PCB's but these modules will use our PCB.

Punisher!
04-01-2005, 10:51 PM
Hey guys, thought I'd post some tweaks / corrections to the Corsair list. I'm one of the admins of the House of Help, which hosts the Official Corsair Support Forum, and we get asked which ICs are in which revision a lot. Unfortunately, the revision itself isn't enough to definitively state what IC is used, the lot # is needed as well.

CLOSED THREAD - Corsair Ram & Memory Chips Used (http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showthread.php?t=20550&page=12&pp=15) - replaced by the next thread
IC Inquiry Thread (http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showthread.php?t=35940)
How To Read the Memory Label (http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showthread.php?t=34461)


If you would like to know which IC your memory has, just follow the instructions in the IC Inquiry Thread and post within it.

Anyway, I've been keeping a list of what ICs are used with what part #, version #, and lot # and updating it whenever an official answer is given out on that specific combo. Here are some of the tweaks/corrections/confirmations, along with how many sticks I've seen of that part # / revision # combo:


XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.0 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-5 v1.0 Winbond -5 Rev C (1 stick)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.1/2.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-6 v1.1 Winbond -6 Rev B (4 sticks)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.2/2.2 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-6 v1.2 Winbond -5 Rev C (1 stick) v2.2 Winbond -6 Rev C (1 stick)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev3.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Infineon B-5 v3.1 Infineon -5 (2 sticks)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD v4.x Samsung -5 TCCX (TCC4 or TCC5 or TCCD) (9 sticks)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD & TCC5
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev5.1/6.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Mosel Vitelic 5ns v5.x Promos -5 Rev A or Mosel -5 Rev A (8 sticks)

Additions:
XMS-PC4000 Rev3.1 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Samsung -5 TCCC (2 sticks)

As for all of the Brainpower markings on the Corsair list here:

XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD v4.x Samsung -5 TCCX (TCC4 or TCC5 or TCCD) (9 sticks)

MMh... Samsung TCC4 doesn't hold CAS 2 @ 200 Mhz, tried by myself.

Anyway, thanks for the good job. I will add the addition.

Punisher!
04-01-2005, 10:59 PM
Additions:
Added XMS PC4000 Rev. 3.1 and new OCZ PC3200 Gold with New BH5.

Wired-HoH
04-02-2005, 06:29 AM
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD v4.x Samsung -5 TCCX (TCC4 or TCC5 or TCCD) (9 sticks)

MMh... Samsung TCC4 doesn't hold CAS 2 @ 200 Mhz, tried by myself.

Anyway, thanks for the good job. I will add the addition.

No problemo. However, all of those IC listings I posted were quoted from various posts from Ram Guy, Corsair's official Rep @ HoH. Search HoH for Key Word(s): tcc4 ; Posts Made By: RAM GUY. I'll email him to get a confirmation on it.

When you tested TCC4s, who made the stick, and what were the system specs?

Punisher!
04-02-2005, 10:26 AM
No problemo. However, all of those IC listings I posted were quoted from various posts from Ram Guy, Corsair's official Rep @ HoH. Search HoH for Key Word(s): tcc4 ; Posts Made By: RAM GUY. I'll email him to get a confirmation on it.

When you tested TCC4s, who made the stick, and what were the system specs?

They were Samsung retail PC3200 sticks (rated @ 3-3-3-8). CAS 2 didn't work at all, neither @ 166 Mhz (on A7N8X, the same that is in signature, working perfectly @ 2-2-2-3 with GeIL Ultra-X).
The same for TCCC chips... CAS 2 didn't exist.

Wired-HoH
04-02-2005, 10:59 AM
That doesn't prove anything overall specifically about the IC in general, because if they may have been tested @ CAS 3 but not CAS 2. They could just be using the lower yielding ICs for that particular model, ones that test fine @ 3-3-3-8, but not at any better timings.

Anyway, still waiting for a response from Ram Guy, I'll probably get one Monday or Tuesday when he gets back into the office.

KoNiaK
04-02-2005, 12:07 PM
Nope.

:confused: so you don't wannt to change, can't understand why :stick:

RocKer
04-02-2005, 02:46 PM
XMS-PC3500C2 Rev1.1 (2-3-3-7-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-5

If a may ask,why is this ram thats on the first page,is with this timing(2-3-3-7-1T).

I have those sticks and the do easy 2-2-2-5 1T from fsb200 to 250 with my a64 3200+(s754),in my sig the are also @ 2-2-2-5,so why 2-3-3-7 1T.

Wired-HoH
04-02-2005, 02:55 PM
XMS-PC3500C2 Rev1.1 (2-3-3-7-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-5

If a may ask,why is this ram thats on the first page,is with this timing(2-3-3-7-1T).

I have those sticks and the do easy 2-2-2-5 1T from fsb200 to 250 with my a64 3200+(s754),in my sig the are also @ 2-2-2-5,so why 2-3-3-7 1T.

Because 2-3-3-7 are the official timings. There are 3500C2s that cannot do 2-2-2-5.

Punisher!
04-02-2005, 04:31 PM
That doesn't prove anything overall specifically about the IC in general, because if they may have been tested @ CAS 3 but not CAS 2. They could just be using the lower yielding ICs for that particular model, ones that test fine @ 3-3-3-8, but not at any better timings.

Anyway, still waiting for a response from Ram Guy, I'll probably get one Monday or Tuesday when he gets back into the office.
I am here :D.

Punisher!
04-02-2005, 04:33 PM
Because 2-3-3-7 are the official timings.

Yeah, timings between brackets are the official memory rated timings. It doesn't deal with "memory can hold 2-2-2-5".

TommyW
04-03-2005, 03:53 AM
Ammmmm mybe i sell my OCZ VX 2x512 and buy 4x512 twinmos SP AA4T UTT that do you think all? should i do it?

or should i keep it and 1GB is good for now? :)

Punisher!
04-03-2005, 12:43 PM
Ammmmm mybe i sell my OCZ VX 2x512 and buy 4x512 twinmos SP AA4T UTT that do you think all? should i do it?

or should i keep it and 1GB is good for now? :)

It depends on what you do with your PC :D.

TommyW
04-04-2005, 01:33 AM
I want to OC till it burn LOL

Punisher!
04-04-2005, 03:23 AM
I want to OC till it burn LOL
How do your VX perform? :D

TommyW
04-04-2005, 04:56 AM
Dont know cant test them yet waiting for mobo and cpu i few days ago i burn my axp 1800+ and mobo so i cant test them :p: :p: ohhh i burn it just for fun :) :)

Punisher!
04-04-2005, 01:24 PM
List updated with new G.Skill with Winbond UTT on BP PCB 808!!!

G.Skill
G.SKILL PC3200(DDR400 1T) (2-2-2-5 1T), (F1-3200BWU2-512MBGH/1GBGH) --chip--> Winbond UTT ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif

1GB Kit official results:
2-2-2-5 a 200 Mhz a ~2,5V
2-2-2-5 a 213 Mhz a ~2,6V (stock voltage)
2-2-2-5 a 250 Mhz a ~3,3V
2-2-2-5 a 260 Mhz a ~3,5V

SPi 1MB @ 260 Mhz:
http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/GskillGH/ddr520pi.jpg

Bye! :D

Wired-HoH
04-04-2005, 09:22 PM
I am here :D.

Confirmed that the TCC4s will do CAS 2 just fine. Keep in mind the general bell curve of statistics. Everything can't do everything :)

demonR6
04-04-2005, 10:41 PM
I bought two Mushkin blue 512 2-3-3-6 from Fry's on Friday. I get them in, throw them in the rig and I set everything to auto, try cranking up my fsb.. it pukes at 210x10 LDT3 1:1 1.425V | 3.2 vdimm. So I'm pissed, this sucks, my PQI mem allowed me 255 without a sneeze. Tonight I am messing around and while looking at the Everest numbers I notice hey, these two sticks have diff part numbers according to this, what gives? So I check CPUZ.. yep, diff parts again, how about Sandra.. yep. I shut it down, swap sticks, same deal reverse. I shut down again and run the one stick that is the oddball which by the way is rated 2-2-2-6.. same deal part number is diff from what is on the sticker and on the website. (8928 for those that are inquisitive)
I am bored, its midnight and I have to get up for work but what the hell.. I notch them down to 1:1 2-2-5-2 everything else on auto.. raise the vdimm to 3.2 (I have active cooling on my ram, they aren't even warm.) I raise the fsb to 210.. then 220, 230. My multi is at x10 and my LDT is at 4 and this thing is running like a champ on 230 and passes memtest 5&6 twice no errors. Last night I could not squeeze 210X10 LDT 3, right now as we speak I am at 240 and will leave it overnight on Prime95 to see if it melts. I have a small problem, this phantom chip is not listed on Mushkin's site so how do I get another one of these bad boys?

The 27c is courtesy of Shin Etsu thermal paste.. I replaced my AS5 with this stuff and its a full -3c.. right now it is idling at 24c~25c. yummy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/zerogeeR6/230200.jpg

overcrash86
04-06-2005, 06:33 AM
http://kubokubo.jp/memory/ld_pc3200_512mb/ld.html

http://kubokubo.jp/memory/ld_pc3200_512mb/01.jpg

:confused:

Hombre
04-06-2005, 08:51 AM
Where are the G-Skill's 4800FF for god's sake?
Can some one post a link to shop where I can buy a 1GB kit?
The rep said it will be shortly available after CeBIT. :confused:

calcal
04-07-2005, 06:19 PM
are you sure the ocz 3200 rev 2 can do 300fsb and up???

this review has it only at 280
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/memory/ocz/3200el_rev2/p3.htm

Punisher!
04-07-2005, 08:40 PM
are you sure the ocz 3200 rev 2 can do 300fsb and up???

this review has it only at 280
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/memory/ocz/3200el_rev2/p3.htm

It depends on the stick luck... http://www.anandtech.com/ has them @ 300 Mhz.

calcal
04-07-2005, 09:16 PM
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-231-002&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-146-890&DEPA=1
which one would you go for?

got a link to where it hit 300fsb?

HTT is just the amd term for fsb right?????? Sorry AMD ELLITERATE : ( :(

Punisher!
04-08-2005, 05:39 AM
_
List updated with:

Buffalo PC3200 CL2 (2-2-2-4) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB

SimpleTech Nitro PC4000 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D5

Kingmax Hardcore PC4000 TSOP (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix D5

Bye! :D

REDKEN
04-08-2005, 05:48 AM
Where are the G-Skill's 4800FF for god's sake?
Can some one post a link to shop where I can buy a 1GB kit?
The rep said it will be shortly available after CeBIT. :confused:
I would like to know too. Anybody have an ETA on these?
If it has been posted before I have not seem it :)

Punisher!
04-08-2005, 05:55 AM
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-231-002&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-146-890&DEPA=1
which one would you go for?

got a link to where it hit 300fsb?

HTT is just the amd term for fsb right?????? Sorry AMD ELLITERATE : ( :(

I have seen both OCZ PC3200 P. Rev. 2 (anandtech.com) and LC @ 300 FSB.

Snowman89
04-08-2005, 06:25 AM
how good is the hynix d5 chipp?

Punisher!
04-08-2005, 06:45 AM
how good is the hynix d5 chipp?
Generally capable of CAS 2,5-4-4-8 @ ~250 Mhz, so quite good.

Snowman89
04-08-2005, 06:59 AM
Generally capable of CAS 2,5-4-4-8 @ ~250 Mhz, so quite good.
capable of 300 3-4-4-8 1T, or close?

Punisher!
04-08-2005, 08:16 AM
capable of 300 3-4-4-8 1T, or close?

I am quite sure you will be able to go just around 280-285 Mhz fully stable.

Hynix B on the other hand are capable even of 320-330 3-4-4-8 1T.

[G.N.U.]Fragman
04-08-2005, 03:47 PM
any1 tested the new PQI pc3200/4000 TCCD ....perhaps even the 2*1gb dual kit...

NST6563
04-09-2005, 04:12 PM
anyone know much about Samsung TCCB chips? I have a stick of 512 that says PC2100...yet when I did a search on google, a lot of hits came up with Mushkin PC3200 DDR-400 Cas 2-2-2-5.

I may put it in and see what it'll do if that's the case.

thx

Punisher!
04-16-2005, 10:18 PM
Update:
Made some additions\corrections.

MonkSP
04-18-2005, 01:58 AM
I bought Twinmos PC3200, model TMII 400 and are NOT winbond.
here is some info:

0508D
TMD7608F8E501

This only have one dot at bottom right. They perform only as high as 235 no matter what juice u give them. I tried from 2.8 to 3.5 and won'0t go any higher then 235. This new Twinmos perform a lot worse and not UTT chips

raydelee
04-19-2005, 10:36 AM
any performance diffrent UTT on brainpower pcb?

Punisher!
04-21-2005, 02:58 AM
I bought Twinmos PC3200, model TMII 400 and are NOT winbond.
here is some info:

0508D
TMD7608F8E501

This only have one dot at bottom right. They perform only as high as 235 no matter what juice u give them. I tried from 2.8 to 3.5 and won'0t go any higher then 235. This new Twinmos perform a lot worse and not UTT chips

You have to look @ the part number to identify the chip.

dimasdw
04-24-2005, 06:12 PM
http://kubokubo.jp/memory/ld_pc3200_512mb/ld.html

:confused:

acording to that link the chip is winbond ..,i dont know what winbond

anyone test the F1-3200BWU2-1GBGH Gskill over 260 Fsb ?
<plan to buy :D>

Punisher!
04-25-2005, 03:01 AM
acording to that link the chip is winbond ..,i dont know what winbond

anyone test the F1-3200BWU2-1GBGH Gskill over 260 Fsb ?
<plan to buy :D>

They are on the list! You need a lot of voltage to make them overcome that barrier (more than 3,5V perhaps).

dimasdw
04-26-2005, 05:07 AM
They are on the list! You need a lot of voltage to make them overcome that barrier (more than 3,5V perhaps).

ok thanks, OPB has tested gskill UTT pas 260 FSB in other thread :)

HiJon89
04-26-2005, 03:55 PM
I just want to give a big thanks to everyone who contributed to this RAM list, its amazing. I can't even remember how many amazing deals its gotten me on memory, every time I see XMS or HyperX memory selling for cheap the first thing I do is ask the revision number and head on over here. You would be surprised how many people are selling BH-5/6 and don't even know it.

Punisher!
04-27-2005, 12:42 AM
I just want to give a big thanks to everyone who contributed to this RAM list, its amazing. I can't even remember how many amazing deals its gotten me on memory, every time I see XMS or HyperX memory selling for cheap the first thing I do is ask the revision number and head on over here. You would be surprised how many people are selling BH-5/6 and don't even know it.

Thanks! :D

hoebloggs
04-27-2005, 07:10 AM
Ive just got some "Blue GeIL", is there anyway to tell if its BH5 without using it, taking ramsinks off ect...

Punisher!
04-27-2005, 09:25 AM
Ive just got some "Blue GeIL", is there anyway to tell if its BH5 without using it, taking ramsinks off ect...

Try:
stable 2-2-2-5 @ ~2,8V @ 200 Mhz --> BH5.
stable 2-2-2-8 @ ~2,8V @ 200 Mhz --> UTT.

FiNcH64
04-27-2005, 10:07 AM
was up guys

ohh very nice list dude..

how long it took you to find out the ram chips??

are you sure that the mushkin level 1 3500 are ch-5?

cause mines act like if they were bh-5 ( low timming, high frecuencies :D )

i own the silver heat spreader one`s..

any one knows the posibility of being bh-5??

also where i can find the jumper for the lanparty sli-d?' cause i wanna reach 280 mhz with thight timmings jejjee..

hoebloggs
04-27-2005, 10:09 AM
It wont do 2,2,2,X at 2.8, ahh well for £35 i cant really complain for 512mb.

its at the top right by the ram heatsink, for 3.2+ it should be on the left

Punisher!
04-27-2005, 11:10 AM
was up guys

ohh very nice list dude..

how long it took you to find out the ram chips??

are you sure that the mushkin level 1 3500 are ch-5?

cause mines act like if they were bh-5 ( low timming, high frecuencies :D )

i own the silver heat spreader one`s..

any one knows the posibility of being bh-5??

also where i can find the jumper for the lanparty sli-d?' cause i wanna reach 280 mhz with thight timmings jejjee..

They could be good CH-5 :D, but I don't exclude they could be BH-5 too.
You can find it in the manual! :)

FiNcH64
04-28-2005, 10:54 AM
thanx for your answer dude

im gonna do a deep investigation , maybe at google :p: ..

i will post what i have find.. to add the list :D


keep posting guys :banana:

yaska
04-28-2005, 11:13 AM
Does anyone know what inside ocz titanium is?

Punisher!
04-29-2005, 11:03 PM
I have made a little correction to Winbond UTT perf. @ 3,4V... seeing many recent results my table was still a bit too much optimistic.

TEDY
05-01-2005, 02:11 PM
am i dreaming or what ?

OCZ EL DDR PC3200 DC Value VX (OCZ4001024WV3DC-K) (3-4-4-8 @2,6V) --chip--> Windond UTT (relabeled as OCZ VX) ~ Brainpower PCB 808
2*512 only 119$ at newegg ????

TEDY
05-01-2005, 02:17 PM
punisher :

http://www.oc-wear.de/pd1111585212.htm?categoryId=27

Punisher!
05-01-2005, 09:40 PM
am i dreaming or what ?

OCZ EL DDR PC3200 DC Value VX (OCZ4001024WV3DC-K) (3-4-4-8 @2,6V) --chip--> Windond UTT (relabeled as OCZ VX) ~ Brainpower PCB 808
2*512 only 119$ at newegg ????

You are not dreaming! :D

Punisher!
05-01-2005, 09:40 PM
punisher :

http://www.oc-wear.de/pd1111585212.htm?categoryId=27
Nice, I will add them soon! ;)

Thanks.

raydelee
05-02-2005, 01:34 AM
anybody tested the new BH-5 on TMSP PC3500 (DDR433)
how is the performance compare to TMSP UTT PC3200 (DDR400)

pasatoiutd
05-03-2005, 09:58 PM
Would be nice to see how the SP3500 scale (FSB@2-2-2 vs. vDimm)

kamaleon
05-05-2005, 12:13 PM
what can i spect from Geil ultra platinum pc4400?

paired with 510-sli psu, dfi sli-dr, venice 3200 and xp90.

[i cant find gskill FF 1gb anywhere.. :( ]

edit: found out they arent that great afterall :/

XS944
05-05-2005, 05:48 PM
I have some info on CL2.5 Mushkin Value RAM PC3200
It's one horrible overclocker, had to go 3.0V before I could get to 230 :(

The chips read:
SYM@X
GKDDR32M8A-5
048E

BTW, did a search and couldn't find anything about SYM@X chips anywhere

just wanted to make a contrib to the list!

--Mike

longsiew
05-05-2005, 07:34 PM
anybody tested the new BH-5 on TMSP PC3500 (DDR433)
how is the performance compare to TMSP UTT PC3200 (DDR400)

I had read in different forum that some members managed to push TMSP PC3500 Bh-5 to 260MHz @3.1Vdimm @ 2-2-2-5

NST6563
05-05-2005, 09:21 PM
Anyone have any idea what the PQI chips with the labeling of (line by line):

PQI
DDR-333 1GB
0101-04D1
MDAC-528LA

on a Brainpower PCB # B6U808.


????

It's actually a Rosewill stick that's rebadged PQI memory (all they did was put a Rosewill sticker over the PQI sticker.) We were using it for a Carputer, but saw the BP PCB and it struck my curiosity. It was only $79 for 1Gb.

SaFrOuT
05-06-2005, 03:18 AM
can anyone confirm of those Giel are the mentioned as BH5 on the list or not plz ???

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820144305

i was thinking of geting Twinmoss but lately many said they weren't UTT so this Geil is perfect if it is the listed one

also if u can point me to any Winbond BH5 or UTT cheap ram on newegg plz

hoebloggs
05-07-2005, 11:24 AM
can anyone confirm of those Giel are the mentioned as BH5 on the list or not plz ???

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820144305

i was thinking of geting Twinmoss but lately many said they weren't UTT so this Geil is perfect if it is the listed one

also if u can point me to any Winbond BH5 or UTT cheap ram on newegg plz

Depends, theres still some old stuff floating around, i got the old stuff :mad: . It might be it might not, only way is to order some and RMA it if it isnt??

TEDY
05-07-2005, 11:54 AM
Punisher :

Aren't these OCZ all TCCDs' ?

- OCZ EL Platinum DFI nF4 Special 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 625 (PC 5000) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
Model #: OCZ6251024ELDCPE-K

- OCZ 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 466 (PC 3700) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
Model #: OCZ4661024ELDCPE-K

- OCZ 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 600 (PC 4800) Dual Channel Platinum System Memory - Retail
Model #: OCZ6001024ELDCPE-K

dippyskoodlez
05-08-2005, 05:15 PM
I'm pretty sure the mushkin black level II rev II is the brainpower PCB...

Punisher!
05-08-2005, 11:36 PM
Punisher :

Aren't these OCZ all TCCDs' ?

- OCZ EL Platinum DFI nF4 Special 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 625 (PC 5000) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
Model #: OCZ6251024ELDCPE-K

- OCZ 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 466 (PC 3700) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
Model #: OCZ4661024ELDCPE-K

- OCZ 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 600 (PC 4800) Dual Channel Platinum System Memory - Retail
Model #: OCZ6001024ELDCPE-K

First and last are... the second not (it depends which PC 3700... gold or what).

oziris1978
05-09-2005, 12:54 PM
There are new apacer ddr500 ram modules. They use Apacer original modules:

on chips....am3a5608frt-3b

the p/n number of them is: 77.10749.644

theobub
05-09-2005, 06:38 PM
I was standing in line over at Fry's yesterday (wanted to look for a replacement for my CBBID stepping A64 - no go) and saw that Geil PC4000 512mb sticks were still on sale for $80 a pop. Curiosity got the better of me and I purchsed a pair.

I threw them in my DFI NF4 rig and put them at their advertised timings of 2.5-4-4-7. On stick tops out at 267, the other 266. Nothing on the package says anything about voiding the warranty if I took a look under the super cheap aluminum/tin? heatspreaders so I pulled one off and took a picture.

Looks like the same GL3LC32G88TG-35 memory that was reviewed
here. (http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1447)

This stuff seems a lot like my Adata Hynix that I tested on my DFI LPUT, crapping out right around the same place.

Whatever it is it seems like a good deal for someone who doesn't have the volts to give to the TwinMos SP UT, or can't plow another $50 into some TCCD. Me personally, I would rather have the Speed Premiums or some killer GSkill. So what am I doing with this stuff? Curiosity kills cats like me! Darn! I'm such a pussy! :rolleyes:


Well at least the pcb is brainpower.
;)

theobub
05-09-2005, 06:47 PM
Anyone here has tried G. Skill LE chips on a system similar to my signature (or any NF2 32bits system)?

I just ordered a 512Mb kit from newegg, and since I am in Brazil I will have to wait my friends sister to bring it to me in two weeks. :(
Cant wait to get my hands on those.

CJ4
05-11-2005, 04:13 AM
The information for the Mushkin Blues is mostly correct if they were ordered recently from Outpost/Fry's. The dual packs were with the BH die, the single packs were with the CH die. The Mushkin Blues also had about 100 pieces of BH-5 on the Jadec PCB thrown in. The older Mushkin Blues had mosel chips.

http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=3593090&postcount=191

nordik
05-15-2005, 12:14 PM
Any idea what chips these use? (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140183&Category_Code=Unbuffered_Corsair) :stick:

Wired-HoH
05-15-2005, 12:46 PM
Any idea what chips these use? (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140183&Category_Code=Unbuffered_Corsair) :stick:

Corsair's 3200C2s have been made in 5 main revisions with multiple subsets within those revisions. Without knowing the version # and lot # of the memory, it's impossible to say for sure what IC it is. Could be one out of at least 10 different kinds.

nordik
05-15-2005, 04:20 PM
Corsair's 3200C2s have been made in 5 main revisions with multiple subsets within those revisions. Without knowing the version # and lot # of the memory, it's impossible to say for sure what IC it is. Could be one out of at least 10 different kinds.

Yeah, I was just wondering if maybe anyone ordered those from monarch. Damn revisions ;)

Wired-HoH
05-15-2005, 08:16 PM
Yeah, I was just wondering if maybe anyone ordered those from monarch. Damn revisions ;)

Problem with that is that they could have different revisions there. At best what someone else got, even if it's the same day, is just a guess.

winston64
05-16-2005, 06:19 PM
Hey punisher where does the
- OCZ EL Platinum DFI nF4 Special 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 625 (PC 5000) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
Model #: OCZ6251024ELDCPE-K

go in ur clasification???

Punisher!
05-16-2005, 08:17 PM
Hey punisher where does the
- OCZ EL Platinum DFI nF4 Special 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 625 (PC 5000) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
Model #: OCZ6251024ELDCPE-K

go in ur clasification???

They equals PC4800 by OCZ (both frequencies and timings are higher and for sure all PC4800 2,5-4-4-10 will hit PC5000 with those timings (3-4-4-10); they are the same memories with a different label in my opinion ;)).

Zanr Zij
05-17-2005, 03:40 AM
@Punisher

I removed Kingmax HardCore DDR500 Hynix DT-D5 chip and saw the PCB is Brain Power PCB ( 808 )... Sorry I can't get the picture...

Punisher!
05-17-2005, 04:47 AM
@Punisher

I removed Kingmax HardCore DDR500 Hynix DT-D5 chip and saw the PCB is Brain Power PCB ( 808 )... Sorry I can't get the picture...
NP, I trust m8... it was a possibility! :D

Next additions then are:
OC-Wear PC3200 DDR00 2-2-2-5 --> BH5
Mushkin RedLine XP4000 DDR500 --> BH5 on BP PCB
OCZ PC5000 DDR625 --> TCCD on BP PCB
Kingmax HardCore DDR500 --> Hynix D5 on BP PCB

;)

winston64
05-17-2005, 11:22 AM
They equals PC4800 by OCZ (both frequencies and timings are higher and for sure all PC4800 2,5-4-4-10 will hit PC5000 with those timings (3-4-4-10); they are the same memories with a different label in my opinion ;)).

the PC5000 say they hit 2.5-4-3-10 though not 3-4-4-10 its better
:stick:

dippyskoodlez
05-17-2005, 11:40 AM
the PC5000 say they hit 2.5-4-3-10 though not 3-4-4-10 its better
:stick:

yea.. 4-4-10 would perform like absolute crap, and would get walked on by 2.5-3-3-7 at like 30 mhz below. :rolleyes:

winston64
05-17-2005, 11:52 AM
so still

Gskill LEs > OCZ PC5000 ?

Punisher!
05-17-2005, 12:08 PM
the PC5000 say they hit 2.5-4-3-10 though not 3-4-4-10 its better
:stick:

www.ocz.com

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_5000_platinum_dfi_nf4_special

The OFFICIAL certification is 3-4-4-10, while the official for PC4800 is 2,5-4-4-10 (so they are the same memories with a different label as I said before). I don't mind what they COULD perform but NOTHING could be better (at max they could equal) Samsung TCCD 440 on BrainPower PCB of G.Skill LA\LE\FF (notice: not all have 440 but this is for sure the best week of TCCD and almost all G.Skills have it, except for some 431, 437 that are in any case very good TCCDs).

Bye.

winston64
05-17-2005, 12:17 PM
Hey do you know where i could get the FFs? They dont have them at newegg and Digi4me wont ship to POBOXs

LenniZ
05-22-2005, 04:52 AM
I have a couple of 512MB XMS-PC3500C2 Rev1.1 modules here, could they be BH-5 ?
I have not checked under the heatspreaders.

TEDY
05-22-2005, 05:02 AM
they're :)

test them afterall...

deception``
05-22-2005, 05:09 AM
Is all new OCZ El Platinum Rev 2 TCC5? I was thinking of picking some of this up, but I want TCCD only :-/ Guess I'll buy some more Bh-5 instead (if this is true, that is).

deception``

LenniZ
05-22-2005, 07:33 AM
they're :)

test them afterall...
thx :) They do 2.0-2-2-5 @200mhz 2.8v on my friends intel ic7g system (even tho he doesnt know anything about over:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing)
I will save up some money and buy them from him :D

andyOCZ
05-22-2005, 11:20 PM
Is all new OCZ El Platinum Rev 2 TCC5? I was thinking of picking some of this up, but I want TCCD only :-/ Guess I'll buy some more Bh-5 instead (if this is true, that is).

deception``

Getting the PC4200 Platinum or PC4800 Platinum will insure you get TCCD. The PC3200 Plat Rev 2 uses the TCC5 as does the PC3700. The TCC5 does low latency 2-2-2 timings better.

Punisher!
05-23-2005, 12:05 AM
Getting the PC4200 Platinum or PC4800 Platinum will insure you get TCCD. The PC3200 Plat Rev 2 uses the TCC5 as does the PC3700. The TCC5 does low latency 2-2-2 timings better.
Thanks ;).

List Updated:
Additions:
Corsair 3200C2v1.5 --> BH-5 on BP PCB
OC-Wear PC3200 DDR400 2-2-2-5 --> BH5
Mushkin RedLine XP4000 DDR500 --> BH5 on BP PCB
OCZ PC5000 DDR625 --> TCCD on BP PCB
Kingmax HardCore DDR500 --> Hynix D5 on BP PCB (just added the pcb)
Kingston 3500A --> CH5
OCZ EL3700 Platinum --> TCCD, TCC5 on BP PCB

Corrections:
OCZ EL3200 Platinum Rev. 2 --> TCCD or TCC5 (new production, TCCD stopped the 7th week of 2005, while these are being RE-produced even after).


Bye! :D

RaptorRaider
05-23-2005, 03:21 AM
the PC5000 say they hit 2.5-4-3-10 though not 3-4-4-10 its better
:stick:
Mmmm... though OCZ claims they are 3-4-4-10 atacom.com (http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?USER_ID=www&cart_id=3575744_145_53_132_133&SEARCH=SEARCH_ALL&ordered_number=&KEYWORDS=ocz+pc5000) also says 2.5-4-3-10. :confused:

fordf250
05-23-2005, 01:23 PM
Thanks ;).

List Updated:
Additions:
Corsair 3200C2v1.5 --> BH-5 on BP PCB
OC-Wear PC3200 DDR400 2-2-2-5 --> BH5
Mushkin RedLine XP4000 DDR500 --> BH5 on BP PCB
OCZ PC5000 DDR625 --> TCCD on BP PCB
Kingmax HardCore DDR500 --> Hynix D5 on BP PCB (just added the pcb)
Kingston 3500A --> CH5
OCZ EL3700 Platinum --> TCCD, TCC5 on BP PCB

Corrections:
OCZ EL3200 Platinum Rev. 2 --> TCCD or TCC5 (new production, TCCD stopped the 7th week of 2005, while these are being RE-produced even after).


Bye! :D

Then


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=876358#post876358

Please update.

Thank you.

Punisher!
05-23-2005, 08:19 PM
Then


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=876358#post876358

Please update.

Thank you.

Actually I noticed it but the "andyOCZ"'s post just above mine confused me... don't you?

13oost
05-27-2005, 02:08 PM
EL DDR PC3200 DC Value VX (OCZ4001024WV3DC-K) (3-4-4-8 @2,6V) --chip--> Windond UTT (relabeled as OCZ VX) ~ Brainpower PCB 808

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=881126&postcount=31

current Value VX ratings are now 2.5-4-4-8 @2.6v.... Winbond BH-5 w/ BP PCB 808
the ones rated 3-4-4-8 are CH (VX) chips (older sticks)

there is 2.5-3-3-7 @ 2.6 ratings on some of the DC kits ive seen, they seem to be mixed BH-5 and CH-5

Punisher!
05-28-2005, 12:52 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=881126&postcount=31

current Value VX ratings are now 2.5-4-4-8 @2.6v.... Winbond BH-5 w/ BP PCB 808
the ones rated 3-4-4-8 are CH (VX) chips (older sticks)

there is 2.5-3-3-7 @ 2.6 ratings on some of the DC kits ive seen, they seem to be mixed BH-5 and CH-5
Thanks, I will make the correction\adding in the next update.

FLD
05-28-2005, 02:30 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=881126&postcount=31

current Value VX ratings are now 2.5-4-4-8 @2.6v.... Winbond BH-5 w/ BP PCB 808
the ones rated 3-4-4-8 are CH (VX) chips (older sticks)

there is 2.5-3-3-7 @ 2.6 ratings on some of the DC kits ive seen, they seem to be mixed BH-5 and CH-5

If my sticks have 2.5-3-3-7 timings and don't boot at 3-X-X-X can I safely say that they are BH-5? Some onealready conviced me of this but just wanted to make sure.

Thanks a lot.

13oost
05-29-2005, 01:12 PM
any clue about this?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=885890&postcount=54

gplracer
05-31-2005, 07:31 AM
I have a DFI Infinity NF2 board that does 250fsb 1:1. Currently I have a 512mb stick of Corsair 3500 c2. What would be another good stick of 512 to add to this combination? Also is there a stick that would be good later in a A64 motherboard too? I was thinking TCCD but I really do not know. Thanks!!!

Punisher!
05-31-2005, 08:38 AM
If my sticks have 2.5-3-3-7 timings and don't boot at 3-X-X-X can I safely say that they are BH-5? Some onealready conviced me of this but just wanted to make sure.

Thanks a lot.
Yeah, they are.

13oost
05-31-2005, 08:52 AM
need to update the OCZ value ram

ALXgr
06-01-2005, 03:45 PM
Getting the PC4200 Platinum or PC4800 Platinum will insure you get TCCD. The PC3200 Plat Rev 2 uses the TCC5 as does the PC3700. The TCC5 does low latency 2-2-2 timings better.

Quote from insanetek (http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?page=oczplatinumpc4800_2)
UPDATE:
While my sample of the PC4800 came with TCCD IC's, OCZ says that all current and future PC4800 memory will come with TCC5 chips. This is certainly not a bad thing. Just because it uses a different IC doesn't mean you'll get less overclock. If you check the PC5000 review, you'll see that that memory featuring TCC5 overclocked better than my PC4800 sticks that feature TCCD. This update is just to let you all know that PC4800 will be using TCC5. I probably just got lucky with my sample.

Any further info about this??

dippyskoodlez
06-01-2005, 04:36 PM
TCC5 isnt BAD... its a GOOD thing people... so many people freak out over little changes :(

(not pointing out that user specificly, but it generalyl seems like people are freaking over TCC5.)

ALXgr
06-02-2005, 12:29 AM
TCC5 is not bad ,not at all...I'm sure that ocz 4800 will do ddr600 but if they use tcc5 the list must be updated!

EDIT : same update from overclock intelligence Agency (http://www.ocia.net/reviews/ocz4800/page1.shtml)

Punisher!
06-02-2005, 10:41 AM
TCC5 is not bad ,not at all...I'm sure that ocz 4800 will do ddr600 but if they use tcc5 the list must be updated!
I am waiting news from AnyOCZ...

TEDY
06-02-2005, 01:22 PM
anyone have any info of Samsung UCCC or TCCC ?

Punisher!
06-02-2005, 01:26 PM
anyone have any info of Samsung UCCC or TCCC ?
They are on list... I had two of those modules:
http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/CPU-Z_RAM1.jpg

+250 Mhz @3-4-4-8 Rock Solid @ ~2,8V Dual Channel of course.

TEDY
06-02-2005, 01:30 PM
what about 2.5-3-3-x ? :)

Punisher!
06-03-2005, 06:17 AM
what about 2.5-3-3-x ? :)

Over 200 but I don't remember exactely how much.

andyOCZ
06-04-2005, 06:33 PM
Getting the PC4200 Platinum or PC4800 Platinum will insure you get TCCD. The PC3200 Plat Rev 2 uses the TCC5 as does the PC3700. The TCC5 does low latency 2-2-2 timings better.

Hi, I just found out the PC4200, PC4800 and PC5000 are all TCC5 now. It looks like we have switched over completely. All former TCCD is now TCC5.

If I don't look at the markings I can't tell anyway. :)

TCC5 = TCCD

Vassili
06-07-2005, 11:27 AM
anyone know which chip this Kingston HyperX 512MB PC2700 is using?
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32089&stc=1

ALXgr
06-08-2005, 04:16 PM
My brand new OCZ pc4800 platinum V1.1=>TCC5

http://img114.echo.cx/img114/127/im0004616kr.jpg

So if you want to identify tcc5 from tccd look at the bottom right of the stickers for V.1,1

theobub
06-19-2005, 01:53 PM
anyone have any info of Samsung UCCC or TCCC ?

I had a pair of TCCC sticks. I only tested them on my 32 bit system (NF7-S rev. 2 + 2500Mobile), they could run 205Mhz 2-2-2-7 and beyond that on 2,5-3-3-8 up to 235Mhz no memtest errors, they wouldnt get stable at 250Mhz no matter how relaxed I got the timings. But that was on Nforce 2 chipset, never tested them on Nforce 4. It would be an interesting thing to do, if only I had not sold them over to a friend, but I will try to get them for testing tomorrow, and post the later on..

Kasparz
06-20-2005, 12:44 AM
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3500_dual_channel
Doe's anyboby know, what chips uses this ram?
OCZ today incoming :woot:

TEDY
06-20-2005, 01:13 AM
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3500_dual_channel
Doe's anyboby know, what chips uses this ram?
OCZ today incoming :woot:

stay away from these....

FiNcH64
06-20-2005, 07:17 PM
If they-re CH-5 they i'll do better... (Or maybe not all CH-5 is that great) i have some CH-5 and it does 215Mhz 2-2-2-5 @ 2.7vdimm (Didn't try higher even) (They do 2-2-2-5 @ 200Mhz with default vdimm but i get some memtest errors...)


dude i got a pair of mushkin pc3500 level one 512mb x 2 and they overclock so damn great..

can run them to 245mhz 3.3 v

250 mhz with 3.4v for benchmarks dont want to toast them so nothing 24/7 only when i get my redline pc4000.. hehe

you most have gotten some bad sticks dude ;)

thezfunk
06-20-2005, 08:08 PM
this Powerbrain PBC...whats so good about it...read this whole thread and didn't see an answer...

ahmad
06-20-2005, 08:21 PM
this Powerbrain PBC...whats so good about it...read this whole thread and didn't see an answer...

BrainPower PCBs tend to overclock better than the standard or enchanced JEDEC PCBs. Why, I don't know. But they are a lot cheaper to produce than JEDEC PCBs thats for sure (its also rumoured that the BP808 do better than the BP815 PCBs...).

Punisher!
06-20-2005, 09:32 PM
BrainPower PCBs tend to overclock better than the standard or enchanced JEDEC PCBs. Why, I don't know. But they are a lot cheaper to produce than JEDEC PCBs thats for sure (its also rumoured that the BP808 do better than the BP815 PCBs...).
Exactely.

BP PCB is a 6 layer PCB, so it has less elettric noise than JEDEC (and this mean more overclock) and moreover it is cheaper to be produced.

thezfunk
06-20-2005, 09:43 PM
OK, I have a NForce2 and I am looking at some new ram. Winbond chips don't play nice with my board...especially not BH-5. I am going with TCCD with PB PCB hopefully. Can you safetly run TCCD ram over 3.0v and does it show any improvement?

FLDQUY157
06-20-2005, 10:06 PM
Exactely.

BP PCB is a 6 layer PCB, so it has less elettric noise than JEDEC (and this mean more overclock) and moreover it is cheaper to be produced.

Wow, cheaper and better!!! Hmm...very interesting.

thezfunk
06-21-2005, 12:47 AM
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140601&AFFIL=FRG&NR=1

This is TCCD right?

Well I am going to get it...turns out it is on 815 instead of 808 but for that price I can't say no. All reviews I have seen it hit 275+

CJ4
06-21-2005, 07:46 AM
The information for the Mushkin Blues is mostly correct if they were ordered recently from Outpost/Fry's. The dual packs were with the BH die, the single packs were with the CH die. The Mushkin Blues also had about 100 pieces of BH-5 on the Jadec PCB thrown in. The older Mushkin Blues had mosel chips.

http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=3593090&postcount=191

Any update for this, or is more required?

CJ

Punisher!
06-21-2005, 09:40 AM
Any update for this, or is more required?

CJ
Sorry, but in this period I am a bit busy for my University exams (last 3 for this year, "business school" is one of the last in Padua to end!!) :D

TEDY
06-22-2005, 08:32 AM
how good are

2x 512 MB GEIL DDR500 PC4000 UltraX Platinum

TCCD 100% ?

TEDY
06-22-2005, 03:08 PM
GEIL
DDR500 CL=2,5-7-4-4
GL1GB4000DC
PN0649-SN400xxxx

TCCD ?

Vassili
06-23-2005, 04:53 AM
Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DW-5 --chip--> Winbond BH-5
Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DW-6 Winbond BH-6
Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DM-6 --chip--> should Winbond BH-6
Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DM-5 --chip--> should Winbond BH-5

From the startpost, but that doesn't make sense does it? 2 different labels for BH-5/BH-6. Shouldn't one be CH/UTT?

kristos
06-29-2005, 03:15 AM
ocz_el_ddr_pc_3500_gold_gx_dual_channel (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3500_gold_gx_dual_channel)

anyone know what chips these carry?

high5
07-01-2005, 12:17 PM
utt bh most likely. its basically the same stuff as gold pc3200, just rated higher.

j_p_h2002
07-01-2005, 12:42 PM
Are on DDR2 Ram always the same chips? no? When yes, what chips are on the ram from OCZ(PC-667 4-2-2-8)?

sphish
07-02-2005, 05:30 PM
I've got some Mushkin L2V2 2x512 right now, but I'm planning on getting 4x512mb and instead of getting another set of l2v2 mushkin, I'm debating 2 sets of OCZ Gold 2x512 (New BH-5).

Couple of questions, anyone have any experience with this at 2.7-2.9v? Does it do the 2-2-2-5 timings? How far has anyone been able to push it?

Should I just get another set of Mushkin L2V2?

Board's a DFI NF4 Ultra-D, newest bios, and I'll be upgrading my Winchester 3000+ to an x2-4200 within the next month. Any input would definitely be appreciated!

high5
07-03-2005, 12:15 AM
ocz rates them 2-2-2@200 w/ 2.8v so it shouldn't be a problem. with 2.9v you can expect to get them to do something like 220 i think.

oziris1978
07-07-2005, 11:16 AM
The New A Data Pc4500 Have New Samsung Tcc5 Chips!!!

b1tterman
07-07-2005, 03:52 PM
could someone compare d5 chips(maybe kingmax ddr500) with something else like TCCD and UTT/BH-5 in tight,medium and loose latencies please, i got them and dunno how high i may clock with them. thx

suio
07-07-2005, 06:33 PM
Which TCCD based memory works best with DFI NF3 250 board?

FiNcH64
07-07-2005, 08:26 PM
hey guys, im about to buy a pair of this memos for a 1gb dual channel kit.. i have to purchase them separatly cause they dont have twinx pairs. so i hope they give me the same perfomance as the ones selled as twinx..

so my question is.. if are you sure that this sticks are samsung tccd?? cause i have seen good reviews about them but i dont want to get wrong and get some hynix 5, or vitelic 5ns :mad: ..

so i appreciate that someone confirm that this are super cool samsung tccd as in the ram list!! is speciefied hehe :D

thx

Zanr Zij
07-09-2005, 12:07 AM
@Punisher :

1. Corsair TwinX1024-3200 v6.1 :< PCB same as XLPT v1.2 ( Brain Power )>

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=934183&postcount=208

Result : @3.5v

http://img276.echo.cx/img276/9624/ddr5209vi.jpg

==> UTT BH-5 IC

2. Corsair TwinX512-3200C2PT v1.7 : PCB same as XLPT v1.2 ->Brain Power.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=937022&postcount=212

Result :@3.6v

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3919/28spi3ql.jpg

==> UTT BH-5 IC

:D

Punisher!
07-10-2005, 05:21 PM
@Punisher :

1. Corsair TwinX1024-3200 v6.1 :< PCB same as XLPT v1.2 ( Brain Power )>

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=934183&postcount=208

Result : @3.5v

http://img276.echo.cx/img276/9624/ddr5209vi.jpg

==> UTT BH-5 IC

2. Corsair TwinX512-3200C2PT v1.7 : PCB same as XLPT v1.2 ->Brain Power.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=937022&postcount=212

Result :@3.6v

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3919/28spi3ql.jpg

==> UTT BH-5 IC

:D

Nice, thanks a lot! :D

[XC] DragonOrta
07-11-2005, 06:10 PM
BrainPower PCBs tend to overclock better than the standard or enchanced JEDEC PCBs. Why, I don't know. But they are a lot cheaper to produce than JEDEC PCBs thats for sure (its also rumoured that the BP808 do better than the BP815 PCBs...).

How would I find out which BP PCB I have on my G.Skill LA?

andyOCZ
07-12-2005, 01:50 AM
How would I find out which BP PCB I have on my G.Skill LA?

Look at the markings on the end of the module. You will see "B6U808" or similar if it's Brainpower.

[XC] DragonOrta
07-13-2005, 09:38 AM
ok, Thanks Andy.

railer
07-13-2005, 12:45 PM
Punisher i got my ram to 301MHz http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=954101#post954101
So you can update the Kingmax Hardcore series section in your post. At least 1 product from them deservs to be in this thread. To bad i didnt find your thread sooner then i would knew that OCZ VX is UTT an would not bout them for my Dothan rig. Exelent thread by theway :up:

Punisher!
07-13-2005, 01:43 PM
Punisher i got my ram to 301MHz http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=954101#post954101
So you can update the Kingmax Hardcore series section in your post. At least 1 product from them deservs to be in this thread. To bad i didnt find your thread sooner then i would knew that OCZ VX is UTT an would not bout them for my Dothan rig. Exelent thread by theway :up:

I will... sorry but I am a bit busy! :D

Punisher!
07-17-2005, 01:01 AM
List updated:
Addings (A) or editings (E):
GeIL ONE (A)
GeIL ONE BH (A)
G.Skill ZX (A)
G.Skill FR (A)
G.Skill FC (A)
OCZ PC4200 (A)
OCZ PC4800 PE (A)
OCZ PC4800\PC5000 (E)
KingMax Hardcore BGA --> Hynix B (A)

Several other not listed editings. Find them on the List :p:.

If I forgot some addings or editings or if you want to report some "not listed" memories just tell me! ;)

Bye! :D

biohead
07-18-2005, 12:07 PM
how do I find out if my corsair 3200xl's are v1.1 or v1.2 ? Is there any difference between them in oc and/or voltage needs?

high5
07-18-2005, 12:26 PM
you can read it from the sticker on the heatspreaders.

v1.2 is generally better for oc-ing since it utilizes brainpower pcb which maximizes the performance of tccd ic's.

IYP
07-18-2005, 12:51 PM
:stick: :kittenhat :hump:

tturbo
07-21-2005, 06:00 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows what chips are in my ram. I just got them back from RMA. I had rev 1.1 before and they wouldnt get past 220 bus :( so I had to rma them. The new set are the following:

Corsair PC4000 memory.

CMX512-4000PT
XMS4000v3.4
0526123-1

high5
07-22-2005, 05:05 AM
go to corsair supports forums and post that info in 'ic inquiry thread'.

PanaBob
07-22-2005, 07:09 PM
so is this the Mushkin "Promo" Build w/ BH-5?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146353

dippyskoodlez
07-23-2005, 07:02 AM
so is this the Mushkin "Promo" Build w/ BH-5?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146353

Thats tccd/tcc5.

dmo580
07-23-2005, 12:03 PM
What's the difference between UTT (OCZ VX) and New BH-5 (Mushkin Redline). I always thought the two rams were basically identical

TheMeatFrog
07-23-2005, 12:07 PM
What's the difference between UTT (OCZ VX) and New BH-5 (Mushkin Redline). I always thought the two rams were basically identical
Same here :slap: :confused:

HARDCORECLOCKER
07-23-2005, 03:48 PM
:D AFAIK Winbond UTT can be either new BH-5 or new CH-5 based - so the addition "BH-5" classifies it definately.

:toast:

HiJon89
07-26-2005, 07:28 PM
This RAM is definitely BH-5 right? I just want to make sure before I buy it.

First stick is:
KHX3500/512R
9905200-011.A00
1199838 - 2.5v

Second is:
KHX3500/512
9905200-011.A00
1070861 - 2.5v

HiJon89
07-26-2005, 07:34 PM
What's the difference between UTT (OCZ VX) and New BH-5 (Mushkin Redline). I always thought the two rams were basically identical
Redline and VX are both UTT-CH on BP PCB so they are basically identical. There are also UTT-BH chips which are used in RAM such as OCZ Gold 3200, OCZ Gold 3500, and GSkill GH

Zanr Zij
07-26-2005, 07:35 PM
This RAM is definitely BH-5 right? I just want to make sure before I buy it.

First stick is:
KHX3500/512R
9905200-011.A00
1199838 - 2.5v

Second is:
KHX3500/512
9905200-011.A00
1070861 - 2.5v


yes ! Both are BH-5. R ( KHX3500/512R ) stand for Retail :)

HiJon89
07-26-2005, 07:41 PM
yes ! Both are BH-5. R ( KHX3500/512R ) stand for Retail :)
Great, thanks :toast:

BB mods's
08-02-2005, 10:10 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144102R I think it's CH-6 or maby BH-5???? ( might buy it)

dmo580
08-03-2005, 02:52 PM
What's with the new Mushkin Xtreme Performance DDR sticks? I'm guessing those are TCCDs? Redline 3200 has been removed on their site... weird. Go check their site out =)

qujck
08-04-2005, 11:10 PM
whats the max voltage for Corsair XMS PC3200XL Pro Rev. 1.2??
Now they are running on 2.8 @ 230FSB 2-3-3-5-1T.

tturbo
08-06-2005, 11:16 AM
I just got a responce on the corsair IC thread about my mem. just wanted to let everyone know. The Ramguy lists my mem mods as TCCD :) talk about a great RMA lol I rmaed hynix and got back tccd :)

Corsair PC4000 memory.

CMX512-4000PT
XMS4000v3.4
0526123-1


He posted a ton of corsair mem listings. if anyone is interested.

http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showthread.php?p=205695#post205695

Zanr Zij
08-07-2005, 06:20 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144102R I think it's CH-6 or maby BH-5???? ( might buy it)


BH-5 Sure :)

Zanr Zij
08-07-2005, 06:22 AM
whats the max voltage for Corsair XMS PC3200XL Pro Rev. 1.2??
Now they are running on 2.8 @ 230FSB 2-3-3-5-1T.

max = unlimited :D...(j/k) . It can eat 3.2-3.3v with very good active cooling :)... Push it higher because of TCCD...

Razor_Sniper
08-07-2005, 07:34 AM
Anyone knows how well this: DDR DRAM PC3200 / 512MB PC3200 DDR, CL2 (GeIL Ultra, GL5123200UP), performs? And is it wise 2 use it with Dothan @ P4C800E-Deluxe?

cupra
08-08-2005, 01:44 PM
please update the mushkin redline - they use utt ch5 and not bh5 as you mention :toast:

Zanr Zij
08-08-2005, 09:40 PM
please update the mushkin redline - they use utt ch5 and not bh5 as you mention :toast:


plzz more detail :D . Thx...

jumanji969
08-08-2005, 10:10 PM
max = unlimited :D...(j/k) . It can eat 3.2-3.3v with very good active cooling :)... Push it higher because of TCCD...

Putting more than 3.1v into tccd is asking for trouble.

Zanr Zij
08-08-2005, 10:39 PM
Putting more than 3.1v into tccd is asking for trouble.


more info plzz ! I don't thinks so... May be it's right with G.Skill but not with Corsair TCCD hehe... esp C2PT and XLPT...

high5
08-09-2005, 02:27 AM
i doesn't matter whether its gskill or corsair but rather what week are used tccd's.

i remember there were some weeks that liked 3.0-3.1v but anything over that isn't advisable, especially for longterm usage.

Zanr Zij
08-09-2005, 04:15 AM
week : almost are 443. 2 pair of XL are 503. My C2PT v4.1 IC are 449... How long about "longterm" ? I used in 4-5 month :) and no prob...Anyway maybe my rams are special because of full mod Ram HS ( copper + High performance Thermal Paste + Active Cooling ) :D. With stock HS, put it 3.1v max ;)

high5
08-09-2005, 04:44 AM
you've run them @3.3v for 4-5 months? wow...

i think weeks 43x were the ones which liked more voltage, i'm not sure though. newer ones like less.

Zanr Zij
08-09-2005, 05:19 AM
437 and 440 not like more than 3.1. My 449 like max 3.3v :D... Daily 3.2v :)

high5
08-09-2005, 05:23 AM
okay, 449's you say.

and what about newer ones, 5xx?

Zanr Zij
08-09-2005, 08:08 PM
I have not mod HS so I'll try :D

xs64
08-17-2005, 03:36 PM
Hey guys ! Are all Kingston HyperX PC3200 ( not K2 , A2 ... ) BH5 chip ? I found 2x512Mbs HyperX PC3200 and wanna make sure before buying them

theobub
08-19-2005, 10:56 PM
Hey guys ! Are all Kingston HyperX PC3200 ( not K2 , A2 ... ) BH5 chip ? I found 2x512Mbs HyperX PC3200 and wanna make sure before buying them

Yes they are... it has been answered before. But yes thank god they are, I have got a Kit they perform wonderfully

calcal
08-25-2005, 05:03 PM
hey guys i just got corsair twinx1024-3200c2 5.2

on the list it doesnt mention 5.2, does anyone know what chips these use.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72542

high5
08-26-2005, 01:07 AM
promos most likely.

try testing them a bit, if they max out around 220-230 thats it.

Punisher!
08-26-2005, 01:22 AM
hey guys i just got corsair twinx1024-3200c2 5.2

on the list it doesnt mention 5.2, does anyone know what chips these use.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72542

Help us to insert it then! Post the CPU-Z "SPD" screenshot and test them a bit with different timings and report your results! :D

Micutzu
08-26-2005, 08:58 AM
Punisher!, you can add Corsair XMS3200C2PT rev 1.3 to 1.7 Winbond UTT.

Punisher!
08-27-2005, 01:01 AM
Punisher!, you can add Corsair XMS3200C2PT rev 1.3 to 1.7 Winbond UTT.

Rev. 1.3 to 1.7? You mean 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 & 1.7 or 1.3 & 1.7, because for example 1.5 have Winbond New BH5 (UTT BH5)?

Do you have some screenshots?

high5
08-27-2005, 03:27 AM
actually xms c2 v1.4 has been reported using mosel vitelic multiple times by ramguy @corsair support forums.

Punisher!
08-27-2005, 04:02 AM
actually xms c2 v1.4 has been reported using mosel vitelic multiple times by ramguy @corsair support forums.

That's why I always ask for screenshots ;).

Micutzu
08-27-2005, 04:48 AM
I was refering to all of the revisions from 1.3 to 1.7, and i said that are UTT, that means either BH UTT or CH UTT (i don't have detailed info on exactly wich revision uses BH and wich CH). This screenshot is taken with a pair of v1.4 sticks at 3.4V; i've also popped the hs' off them and they were Winbonds allright.

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/9134/340v0qr.th.jpg (http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=340v0qr.jpg)

I've personally seen only v1.4, v1.5 and v1.7, and they were all Winbond chips; the rest is based on 2nd hand info. Also, it seems all the 3200C2PT 1.X and 2.X are Winbond, 3.X is Infineon, 4.X is Samsung and 5.1 & 6.1 is MosEl; Corsair is using different numbers for every chip manufacturer.

Punisher!
08-27-2005, 05:26 AM
I've personally seen only v1.4, v1.5 and v1.7, and they were all Winbond chips; the rest is based on 2nd hand info. Also, it seems all the 3200C2PT 1.X and 2.X are Winbond, 3.X is Infineon, 4.X is Samsung and 5.1 & 6.1 is MosEl; Corsair is using different numbers for every chip manufacturer.

Yeah, this is mostly true. Anyway in the screenshots there isn't the "SPD" window.

Comp-Freak
08-27-2005, 08:52 AM
Kingston
HyperX PC 3200AK2 (2-3-2-6-1T) (KHX 3200AK2) --chip--> Winbond CH-5Does this look like ch5? I think they have changed the chips?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36252&stc=1

high5
08-28-2005, 01:31 AM
I was refering to all of the revisions from 1.3 to 1.7, and i said that are UTT, that means either BH UTT or CH UTT (i don't have detailed info on exactly wich revision uses BH and wich CH). This screenshot is taken with a pair of v1.4 sticks at 3.4V; i've also popped the hs' off them and they were Winbonds allright.

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/9134/340v0qr.th.jpg (http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=340v0qr.jpg)

I've personally seen only v1.4, v1.5 and v1.7, and they were all Winbond chips; the rest is based on 2nd hand info. Also, it seems all the 3200C2PT 1.X and 2.X are Winbond, 3.X is Infineon, 4.X is Samsung and 5.1 & 6.1 is MosEl; Corsair is using different numbers for every chip manufacturer.
very nice. :)

just to make sure, those v1.4's of yours are xms 3200c2?

yes, it would be logical thal all c2 v1.x's are winbond based, however, all (i think) c2 v1.4 inquiries have been linked to mosel vitelic by ramguy. maybe you should post your info there and see whats the official response, just out of curiosity.

kronos
08-28-2005, 08:19 AM
http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?ID=239

Anyone know anything about this memory? It appears that Mushkin has just released it. I curious as what chips this memory would have. I might also mention that I also purchased 2x1GB set of it.



kronos :D :woot:

Punisher!
08-28-2005, 04:17 PM
http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?ID=239

Anyone know anything about this memory? It appears that Mushkin has just released it. I curious as what chips this memory would have. I might also mention that I also purchased 2x1GB set of it.



kronos :D :woot:

Directely from Mushkin!!!

--> 2GB XP3200 3-3-3-8 Dual Kit (2x1GB) 250mhz 3-4-4-8 (infineon)

1GB XP3200 Dual Pack 2-2-2 (2x512MB) tccd/tcc5
1GB XP4400 Dual Pack 2.5-4-4 (2x512MB) tccd
1GB REDLINE 3200/3500/4000 (2x512mb) UTT/ch

kronos
08-28-2005, 07:49 PM
Directely from Mushkin!!!

--> 2GB XP3200 3-3-3-8 Dual Kit (2x1GB) 250mhz 3-4-4-8 (infineon)

1GB XP3200 Dual Pack 2-2-2 (2x512MB) tccd/tcc5
1GB XP4400 Dual Pack 2.5-4-4 (2x512MB) tccd
1GB REDLINE 3200/3500/4000 (2x512mb) UTT/ch


The memory I'm asking about is XP4000 with timings of 3,4,3,8 at 500Mhz. :fact:



highlander :nono: :D

calcal
08-28-2005, 08:05 PM
Help us to insert it then! Post the CPU-Z "SPD" screenshot and test them a bit with different timings and report your results! :D

here are my results..you guys will be shocked

promos most likely.

try testing them a bit, if they max out around 220-230 thats it.


you are correct they are ProMoss -5 IC's according to ramguy @ corsair forums

high5
08-29-2005, 01:24 AM
very nice :up:

i have to admit i never seen promos based ram going so high... pi 32m stable?

btw, do you have digital camera?

Punisher!
08-29-2005, 01:48 AM
The memory I'm asking about is XP4000 with timings of 3,4,3,8 at 500Mhz. :fact:



highlander :nono: :D
Same Infineon overclocked.

Punisher!
08-29-2005, 01:49 AM
here are my results..you guys will be shocked




you are correct they are ProMoss -5 IC's according to ramguy @ corsair forums

If you could add even the "SPD" CPU-Z windows it would be better.

calcal
08-29-2005, 09:14 AM
very nice :up:

i have to admit i never seen promos based ram going so high... pi 32m stable?

btw, do you have digital camera?

I have a digital camera, and ill test 32m later when i get back from school

If you could add even the "SPD" CPU-Z windows it would be better.

ill do it after i come back from school

Comp-Freak
08-29-2005, 11:43 AM
Does this look like ch5? I think they have changed the chips?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36252&stc=1Can anyone confirm this isn't Winbond ch5 like it should be? :confused:

ozzimark
08-29-2005, 12:40 PM
Can anyone confirm this isn't Winbond ch5 like it should be? :confused:
can't tell from a side shot


also, a note about ddr1 >pc3200 crucial ram..
on the end of the part number, there is a period, then a few letters and numbers.
example:
BL6464Z402.16TG
CT12864Z40B.M16FD or .16TD2

the first number (16) is the number of chips on the pcb. most often, 4 and 8 are single sided while 16 is always double.
the letter after the first number, T or F. T stands for TSOP, F stands for FBGA
the next letter, there's 3 options, it denotes the chip die revision, C, D and G, for 5b C, 5b D and 5b G
the last number, if there, i haven't quite figured out yet. i'm guessing a different pcb revision or something.

that out of the way, i have also discovered that 512mb ballistix can come in 5b D, single sided:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=946804

funkflix
08-29-2005, 03:06 PM
It do not really look like Winbonds, i think it's something other!

Here are Kingstons with Winbond BH5 :

http://img.techpowerup.org/050829/kingstonbh5.jpg

Perc
08-29-2005, 03:51 PM
guys i just ordered the patriot 1gig kit the 3200xblk. anyone order these latley? im praying to god they still ship with the tccd and bp pcb like the used too.... so if anyone nas ordered these recently or know someone who has can you tell me if they still have the tccd chips? i realy should cancel my order and order something i know has tccd and the bp pcb... i just have a bad feeling that these xbl's arent sporting tccd anymore....

thx perc,

Truckchase!
08-29-2005, 03:55 PM
Same Infineon overclocked.

According to Duonger (Mushkin employee), they're not Infineon chips. See the 2x1GB thread for the post.

calcal
08-29-2005, 04:04 PM
Ok here are my results!

Hey high5 what do u want me to take a picture of ? my ram?

gigi77
08-30-2005, 12:22 AM
According to Duonger (Mushkin employee), they're not Infineon chips. See the 2x1GB thread for the post.
Today i have 1 kit

i post results!


Infineon or Micron now?

Punisher!
08-30-2005, 12:47 AM
According to Duonger (Mushkin employee), they're not Infineon chips. See the 2x1GB thread for the post.

And what did he tell they are?

high5
08-30-2005, 02:57 AM
Hey high5 what do u want me to take a picture of ? my ram?
yeah, just like the ones comp-freak & gravedigga posted recently.

btw comp-freak, that ram of yours is certainly not winbond based.

Comp-Freak
08-30-2005, 07:46 AM
Thnx GravediggA and high5. I knew winbond has the 2 metal "lines" on de side. I'm curious what chips they have, but I think I'm going to get some other ram and sell these.

calcal
08-30-2005, 08:59 AM
And what did he tell they are?
punisher is that the screen you wanted to see?

yeah, just like the ones comp-freak & gravedigga posted recently.


here are the pictures

keiph
08-30-2005, 10:33 AM
Hi,I did a sandra lite test on my system and after 89 pages, one of the tips was i should be using eec/parity or registered/buffered for large memory,i have 2x512 of buffalo pc 3200u 2.5-3-3-8.16x(32mx8) winbond w83627(t) hf isa(4Q1999)
bank 0: 256mb ddr-sdram 2.5-3-2-7 2cmd
" "" ""
same for all four banks but only using two.
can anyone tell me why it is telling me this as i car'nt get any answers out of it?

toledo
08-30-2005, 10:40 AM
Does anyone know what chips does it uses ?

Ultra Extreme memory (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=544684&sku=ULT30030)


I`ve heard that is bh-5 :rolleyes: ..... If somebody knows please post .

funkflix
08-30-2005, 11:33 AM
The old Ultras used BH5, but the new ones..hmm.. don't think so! Timings 2.0-3-2-x .. that could be alot of ICs! Maybe it's UTT CH5.

toledo
08-30-2005, 12:53 PM
The old Ultras used BH5, but the new ones..hmm.. don't think so! Timings 2.0-3-2-x .. that could be alot of ICs! Maybe it's UTT CH5.

It is quite strange that i only see those on Tigerdirect ..... even if it is UTT the price is not bad .

calcal
08-30-2005, 06:36 PM
How Do I Remove These Heatsinks???????

dippyskoodlez
08-30-2005, 07:01 PM
How Do I Remove These Heatsinks???????

like all the other normal heatsinks.... pop the clips off, then EXTREMELY GENTLY, pull the spreaders off.

calcal
08-30-2005, 07:35 PM
how do i take the clips off?

dippyskoodlez
08-30-2005, 07:40 PM
how do i take the clips off?

use some creativity... ;) little bit of thinking goes a long way.

Eloxxd
08-31-2005, 04:20 PM
PC4000 REDLINE XP4000 DDR500 (2-2-2-5-1T @~3,3V) --chip--> Winbond New BH-5 ~ Brainpower PCB ... thats wrong ... they are utt ch-5 !!

calcal
08-31-2005, 05:39 PM
Someone Tell Me How To Take These Heatsinks Off Or Link The Instructions
They Dont Pop Off

andlcs
08-31-2005, 05:58 PM
My pqi TURBO DDR550 is using Hynix D5 + Brainpower 815 and it has a pmi sticker on it.

http://www.geocities.com/a_andlcs/MEM/pqi_DDR550_01.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/a_andlcs/MEM/pqi_DDR550_02.JPG

Punisher!
09-01-2005, 12:45 AM
My pqi TURBO DDR550 is using Hynix D5 + Brainpower 815 and it has a pmi sticker on it.

http://www.geocities.com/a_andlcs/MEM/pqi_DDR550_01.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/a_andlcs/MEM/pqi_DDR550_02.JPG

This is a nice report, thanks a lot! :D

(I write all the perfect reports on my .txt and after ~5 I update the list).

Punisher!
09-01-2005, 12:46 AM
PC4000 REDLINE XP4000 DDR500 (2-2-2-5-1T @~3,3V) --chip--> Winbond New BH-5 ~ Brainpower PCB ... thats wrong ... they are utt ch-5 !!

I know as I have written few posts ago ("directely from Mushkin"), I will correct soon. ;)

Comp-Freak
09-01-2005, 02:14 AM
Someone Tell Me How To Take These Heatsinks Off Or Link The Instructions
They Dont Pop OffYou must remove the metal clips. To do so, put a screwdriver or something underneath it. When done removing the clips, gently pull the heatspreaders off. Between the heatspreaders and the chips there's thermal tape.

calcal
09-01-2005, 07:58 AM
You must remove the metal clips. To do so, put a screwdriver or something underneath it. When done removing the clips, gently pull the heatspreaders off. Between the heatspreaders and the chips there's thermal tape.
thanks comp freak, the first part worked but the second part didnt. I cant pull the heat spreaders off, its too tight :(

Comp-Freak
09-01-2005, 11:11 AM
thanks comp freak, the first part worked but the second part didnt. I cant pull the heat spreaders off, its too tight :(It's a start ;) You must lift the heatspreaders on the same side the contacs for the ram slot are. On the other side, the 2 spreaders are hooked into each other.

Perc
09-01-2005, 12:25 PM
Just wanted to post that i bought a pair of Patriot 2x512 pc3200XBLK and i recieved them today. they have the BP 815U pcb (Thats RED pcb :) ) and the tccd 522 chips. i havent run them yet but suspect they will fair just fine...

peace perc,

Punisher!
09-01-2005, 02:32 PM
Just wanted to post that i bought a pair of Patriot 2x512 pc3200XBLK and i recieved them today. they have the BP 816 pcb (Thats RED pcb :) ) and the tccd 522 chips. i havent run them yet but suspect they will fair just fine...

peace perc,
Yeah, they will man! Report us your progress! :D

Perc
09-01-2005, 04:15 PM
so far these new patriot tccd 522 are acting more like my 256 tccd sticks then my older crosair 4400 512 tccd sticks... these 512's here will let me run 270/280htt at 2.7v and 2.5-3-3-8 instead of the 2.5-4-4-8@ 2.8v i had to use with my 4400 crosair tccd 440 memorys. im going to see if they run 300htt or not at these timmings? im sure they do but you never know...

peace perc,

[XC] serlv
09-01-2005, 07:22 PM
My pqi TURBO DDR550 is using Hynix D5 + Brainpower 815 and it has a pmi sticker on it.



I think PQI evolved out of what used to be PMI, didn't they?

Punisher!
09-01-2005, 10:58 PM
so far these new patriot tccd 522 are acting more like my 256 tccd sticks then my older crosair 4400 512 tccd sticks... these 512's here will let me run 270/280htt at 2.7v and 2.5-3-3-8 instead of the 2.5-4-4-8@ 2.8v i had to use with my 4400 crosair tccd 440 memorys. im going to see if they run 300htt or not at these timmings? im sure they do but you never know...

peace perc,

Not bad man! Also the clock of your Dual Core is awesome! Let's see if your memory can do more! :D

high5
09-02-2005, 01:46 AM
I think PQI evolved out of what used to be PMI, didn't they?
over a year ago pqi bought pmi, so basically yes.

Perc
09-02-2005, 08:54 PM
Not bad man! Also the clock of your Dual Core is awesome! Let's see if your memory can do more! :D

lol yeah i cant complain about this dual core so far with these patriot 512 sticks im at 280htt 2.7v 2.5-3-3- 1:1 ofcourse... with my other crosair 4400 tccd i was running this core at 300htt just havent tried these new memory at 300 yet im sure they will do it np. heres a screen shot of 300htt using my crosair tccd...

*edit* heres a screen shot of the new patriot doing 300htt 2.5-3-3-X using only 2.7v. compare these to my crosair at 300htt where i had to use 2.5-4-4-X using 2.8v id say these new patriots deff oc nice with even tighter timmings then my old tccd 440 crosair...

peace perc,

piotres
09-05-2005, 12:08 PM
Hello

Somebody know what chips have OCZ EL PC2700 rev. 3.2 256MB sticks ??

SPD timings 5-2-2-2

Regards
Peter

Punisher!
09-05-2005, 02:03 PM
lol yeah i cant complain about this dual core so far with these patriot 512 sticks im at 280htt 2.7v 2.5-3-3- 1:1 ofcourse... with my other crosair 4400 tccd i was running this core at 300htt just havent tried these new memory at 300 yet im sure they will do it np. heres a screen shot of 300htt using my crosair tccd...

*edit* heres a screen shot of the new patriot doing 300htt 2.5-3-3-X using only 2.7v. compare these to my crosair at 300htt where i had to use 2.5-4-4-X using 2.8v id say these new patriots deff oc nice with even tighter timmings then my old tccd 440 crosair...

peace perc,

:banana:

What about some benchies? :p: :toast:

Perc
09-05-2005, 02:13 PM
:banana:

What about some benchies? :p: :toast:


i can post a few i supose. i just never see anything special about my mem scores so i never post them...

peace perc,

BB mods's
09-10-2005, 08:43 PM
Just got my OCZ4001024WV3DC-K BH-5 goodness new stick's i think ill break them in right with some high fsb lovin :)

\Karting_freak
09-19-2005, 10:09 AM
hi!
i've got a question:
i'm trying to to buy old bh-5/6 and i got a message where it was written that geil ultra pc3500 p/n MAG16UL6464D2TG4A-KT is winbond. but i dont have any info about the chips.
what do you guys think, could this be winbond bh?

ps if anybody sells 2x512 winbond bh5/6 pm or e-mail me please.

i found nemo
09-20-2005, 09:21 PM
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4292564#detailed

still bh-5?

Aleman
09-21-2005, 01:45 AM
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4292564#detailed

still bh-5?
Black PCB no. Green PCB ,maybe.

i found nemo
09-21-2005, 05:55 AM
oh, on another post here on xs it said that it had utt chips :(