My 6800 GT rox

[Kanavit]

just did an air cooled overclocked run at 429/1120, wasnt really pushing, prolly can do more , but for now... i'm satisfied. I'm really beginning to like 3dmark03 more than 3dmark2001 finally. it took time, maybe one day i will like 3dmark05.

13235 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3539936)

not bad for only $399 , price of a x800 pro but performance more like x800xtpe in 3dmark03. i'm very happy camper. :toast:

[twilius_basic]

Good stuff Kan :) Are you still on default cooling/volts?

For me, 2001SE is still king :D But 03 gained a lot of ground in my favour when I got my X800XTPE (from a 9700 Pro).

Also, everyone knows a 6800GT > X800Pro, but we here at XS aren't stupid; the real comparison is 6800GT vs. X800Pro ViVo :p: which evens the odds a little.

Anyways, good results m8 :toast: Keep on pushing. Your example was one of the reasons I chose a 6800GT when I first bought a new card...your PNY was soaring along after a BIOS flash iirc, something like 440/1100+ :slobber: Sadly, I was disappointed in my PNY GT, it wouldn't even do 400 core with a bios flash :(

Cheers! :)

PS: What is the "minimum" framerate you notice in the FPS monitor in Mother Nature? Usually it should be right near the beginning, when the cam shifts from the riverstream up to the beatiful full-scene impression. Thanks.

[Kanavit]

i think it dipped down to 18 fps at that scene in mother nature. I bios edited my GT, and change to 1.4v gpu. I did auto detect frequency in using coolbits, and it setted at 430/1160! I had to lower it because it locked up and artifacted in nature, and i also had to raise my CPU to 1.7, because it kicked me out during Troll test. That was a very good run too. :(

[choseone214]

Nice scorage :) whats It do in 2005 or have oyur not ran it yet?

[Kanavit]

Nice scorage :) whats It do in 2005 or have oyur not ran it yet?
Ha! you lucky i did a 3dmark05 run too, well i wasn't as excited about this score. Here it is! :confused:
5,676 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=438861)

Funny i got higher clocks stable with 3dmark05? card at 430/1150

[twilius_basic]

That fits I think. Comparing my GT to XTPE (I know, the X800 damn well better beat the GT :p: ), with both cards' drivers set to middle perf/quality, the 6800 hit the 13fps mark and the X800 hit about 29fps.

Needless to say, I'm liking my X800 more than the GT.

[Kanavit]

That fits I think. Comparing my GT to XTPE (I know, the X800 damn well better beat the GT :p: ), with both cards' drivers set to middle perf/quality, the 6800 hit the 13fps mark and the X800 hit about 29fps.

Needless to say, I'm liking my X800 more than the GT.
hmm, is it because NV40 is running full 32-bit precision , while the x800 is running 24-bit depth? Or because of forced trilinear filtering?

[reject]

if he turns off trilinear then fp-32 is a big lag
i always put the slider to none for benching, but ive been thinking maybe bilinear will be faster than none. ive havent had the op. to try it
btw. nice scores! i have yet to break 13k but my 3d05 is close
due to my heatsink i cnat have my core up to 428 it heats up my ram
but i managed to run 05 at 425/608
but 03 throttled i think

[eva2000]

lovely stuff there :)

[Cornelious0_0]

Good stuff on your GT......at 1.4v I had my Inno3D 6800GT running at 435/1150 with stock cooling.....then with a slightly modded NV5 I took the card all the way to 455/1325.....not to shabby for air cooling eh? ;)

[CrimeDog]

I've run 3d03 on x800xt-pe and 6800ultra and noticed that nature dips lower for the nvidia, but nvidia scores higher ;)

[Cornelious0_0]

I've run 3d03 on x800xt-pe and 6800ultra and noticed that nature dips lower for the nvidia, but nvidia scores higher ;)

This is true.....partially.

With my 6800GT @ 455/1325, Mother Nature woudl still dip down below 20-24fps and slow down noticeably.....whereas with my XT-PE even at stock clock its well over 24fps on teh dip...and at 675Mhz its up to 34 or so for a low point.

With my 6800GT at 455/1325 compared to my XT-PE at 675MHz I'm scoring a full 1000 or so higher with the XT-PE.....so I'm plenty happy with the card.

[Kanavit]

heh, i wish i had money left over for an x800xtpe, but then again most places are out of stock.

[CrimeDog]

With my 6800GT at 455/1325 compared to my XT-PE at 675MHz I'm scoring a full 1000 or so higher with the XT-PE.....so I'm plenty happy with the card.
Well you're comparing a reasonable overclock with a crazy overclock...

[Cornelious0_0]

Well you're comparing a reasonable overclock with a crazy overclock...

True, but even so.....as far as I knew, GT's weren't capable of handling 1.5v on a day to day basis.....i knew mine sure didnt like it. 455/1325 was the most I was able to get out of that card at the time........so even now, I'd still rather have the XT-PE.....even if i clocked it downt o 600/600 or something........w/e.
:rolleyes:

[drcrawn]

Ha! you lucky i did a 3dmark05 run too, well i wasn't as excited about this score. Here it is! :confused:
5,676 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=438861)

Funny i got higher clocks stable with 3dmark05? card at 430/1150

Surprising that you ran the cpu tests...

[Geforce4ti4200]

twilius_basic, so whats your 3dmarks, especially 2001 with your 6800gt or did you sell it for an x800xt? I am very curious to see how much your 22k with 9700pro(which beats out even mine, but ill beat you back with this winchester and tccd) my newcastle sucked, only single channel and slower 130nm too plus only had 234MHz with bh5, my winchester will be dual channel at whatever the ondie controller can handle, hopefully over 250MHz plus winchester clock for clock beats newcastle. I also was using 4.10 but will try 4.12 and maybe tweak the gpus ram timings. 22.5k is a safe bet, maybe 23k if I get lucky with my cpus ondie controller. 3dmark 2003 will never interest me, too gpu limited, 2001 is much more fun and challenging and its where my softmodded 9500 can beat some 9800s, even x800s but in 2003 you could take a stock xp2500 and 6800 or x800 and no 9700/9800 will touch it, not even with a 3.5GHz fx55. way too one sided towards the gpu. Macci barely hit 10k with 9800xt and we have stock athon xp and stock x800 scoring much higher. in 3dmark 2001 it wouldnt even be close

[misteroadster]

yes but in the actuals top games in DX9 , any barton or even duron with X800 or 6800 will beat an FX55 with 9800 in 1280X1024 or 1600X1200.

[Geforce4ti4200]

only with aa/af turned on to full. without aa/af your still cpu limited even at 1600x1200 as proven in this chart!


http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/half-life/update/d3c17_1600_pure.gif

The x800xt PE is only getting 20% more fps than the 9800pro at 1600x1200 pure speed, no aa/af obviously. Now if we stick a slower cpu with the x800xt it would probably drop below what the 9800pro and a64 gets. After all, a stock 3000+ winchester will crush any overclocked barton, even 3GHz barton arent gonna touch a stock winchester!

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/intel%20pentium%204%20570j_111304101117/5453.png


the 1.8GHz winchester is over 50% faster than a 2.2GHz barton and both use dual channel and have 512k cache, just goes to show how powerful the a64 core is, especially the winchester. Kanavit, if I were you, I would be thankful for the winchester. 1.8GHz winchester is matching a 2.4GHz newcastle with the 2GHz almost 10fps ahead. Everyone told me I was "dumb" for going from a 2.58GHz newcastle to a 2.6GHz winchester but I have the last laugh! I am expering huge gains so far, even 3dmark 2001 shows almost 15% gains clock for clock s939 winchester vs. s754 castle.

[misteroadster]

this graphic is really strange (HL2) :confused:
how to explain this : X800XT>X800XTPE=X800Pro>6800>X800XTPCI-E=X700PCI-E :eek:

[reject]

kanavit doesnt even have a winchester. what are you talking about?
and who games without AF and AA? turn those on and NV will be better

[Geforce4ti4200]

this graphic is really strange (HL2) :confused:
how to explain this : X800XT>X800XTPE=X800Pro>6800>X800XTPCI-E=X700PCI-E :eek:



when the cpu is 100% the bottleneck with any x800 card, the marin of error kicks in so that even a "slower" x800 can be ahead. This will never happen with tomorrow's cpus or slower gpus such as a ti4200 or 9500. I thought kanavit got a 3500+ winchester but I could be wrong. ok I am wrong, its a newcastle but its s939. Not quite as fast as a winchester though

[sr4470]

Talking of CPU limitation, i experience that in some games even with 8xAA, 16xAF at 1152x864 with my 3000+ winchester. My aquamark3 score went up some 11000 points (59k to about 70k) going from 1808 -> 2520mhz, and i didnt even touch the gpu clocks

[Geforce4ti4200]

Thats why I am sticking with my softmodded 9500np for a while, I dont play with any aa(af takes much less hit than aa) and I experience more gains with a faster cpu anyway. Eventrually I will get close to maxing out this gpu with tomorrows cpus then itll be time for a pci-e mobo with a dx10 gpu from ati ;)

[sr4470]

Dx10 will come with longhorn in 2006 or so i heard..this cpu is really annoying me now because its running hotter at stock now than during my overclocking :confused:

[reject]

ok so youre saying you wont get a better card because u think it will be bottlenecked? a lot of games are like 3dmark03, 75% gpu 25% cpu
so a faster gfx wont be bottlenecked, especially a non 6800 card

[twilius_basic]

twilius_basic, so whats your 3dmarks, especially 2001 with your 6800gt or did you sell it for an x800xt? I am very curious to see how much your 22k with 9700pro(which beats out even mine, but ill beat you back with this winchester and tccd) my newcastle sucked, only single channel and slower 130nm too plus only had 234MHz with bh5, my winchester will be dual channel at whatever the ondie controller can handle, hopefully over 250MHz plus winchester clock for clock beats newcastle. I also was using 4.10 but will try 4.12 and maybe tweak the gpus ram timings. 22.5k is a safe bet, maybe 23k if I get lucky with my cpus ondie controller. 3dmark 2003 will never interest me, too gpu limited, 2001 is much more fun and challenging and its where my softmodded 9500 can beat some 9800s, even x800s but in 2003 you could take a stock xp2500 and 6800 or x800 and no 9700/9800 will touch it, not even with a 3.5GHz fx55. way too one sided towards the gpu. Macci barely hit 10k with 9800xt and we have stock athon xp and stock x800 scoring much higher. in 3dmark 2001 it wouldnt even be close

No, I never really tried 3D seriously with my 6800GT, b/c it OC'ed so badly :( I haven't really tried with my XTPE either, lol, I'm waiting for my 3700+ back from RMA.... I SO hope it's a good clocker.

But I did some stock runs with both cards. The GT got ~5K in 05 and close to ~11K in 03 iirc (the 03 run might have had a small increase in core clock). I haven't OC'ed my X800 yet, but on a WinXP install for gaming, as in no tweaks whatsoever, I got 27.5K in 01, ~12K in 03 and ~6K in 05 I think. I was just messing around once, and using exact same settings (as in no tweaks) but I oc'ed my CPU to ~2620MHz, I got 29K. So I know once I get my CPU back, if it clocks good, and then I get Win2K and oc the GPU, I will be getting some ok scores :)

[Geforce4ti4200]

wow you also upgraded to 3700+ claw? Its 1mb cache will get ya far in 3dmark. If you still had that barton, youd be hard pressed to get over 25k, maybe 26k as youd become nearly 100% cpu limited. Ideally, you want 30k at 2.35GHz and break 32k at 2.55 to 2.6GHz clocks, Eshbach can and has done it. Only 29k at 2.62? You got a bit of tweaking to do to gain about 3000 marks. GPU clocks arent gonna matter unlike it does for slower gpus which you used to have except for nature. Youll find its all cpu with high end gpus. In my case, its probably half and half for my 9500np, but like 60% gpu, 40% cpu for my ti4200. If I had a good clocking 9800pro, it may be 75% cpu, 25% gpu.

[Kanavit]

Surprising that you ran the cpu tests...yea, i have the free version only not pro member.

[twilius_basic]

yea, i have the free version only not pro member.

Just hit ESC when you're finished with the game tests :p:


@GF4: Like I said, ALL STOCK WinXP with no tweaks ;) I know that it is far below what it should be.... I do know a lil about tweaking if ya look at my stock AXP&9700P score. Also, although GPU won't give me huge increases, it still does "some". Once I get CPU back (if it clocks good), and I'll hook up a diff hdd for Win2K, then I'll try for some points.

Cheers and sorry for the OT Kanavit.

[reject]

now ive broken 13k im so happy before i leave for japan

[jinu117]

There are some bottlenecks involved if you play 1600x1200 with aa/af on. CPU is the king at that point. 100mhz more of cpu is more noticeble than 40mhz increase in core or memory of card on CS:S. (now this is talking about scaling A64 from 2.6ghz to 3.2ghz over 100mhz increment vs gpu overclocking either SLI GT or single Ultra or X800XT PE)
Anyone who plays CS:S around 3.2ghz with these games with 1600x1200 would know. Acceptable -> Nice -> Smooth -> Do I really need that FPS :P

[eva2000]

yup my main monitor is 1600x1200 now so having that extra bit on cpu power helps alot :)