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perry_78
01-02-2005, 11:17 AM
Hej!

Throuh my endless wishing that the DFI becomes officially anounced, being in awe of those who poses one, i found this :D

So it appears as if DFI will actually be in shape to ship these boards one fine day! S775 and S939 are mixed on the website, this hints that something is brewing.....:D

eva2000
01-02-2005, 11:18 AM
well they're meant to be due mid-Jan in Australia heh

perry_78
01-02-2005, 11:21 AM
on DFI-STREET they say Jan-Feb-April

I just wonder what shipping will be like, considering the MSI K8N NEO4 has been already announced, its nowhere in stores.

I was all set on the NEO4, but the LOUSY Vcore made me think twice. Now DFI seems to be back in the game :D

perry_78
01-02-2005, 11:26 AM
Another one! So DFI is actually serious on getting a motherboard on the market less than 6 months after the first ones are released! :D

Skip
01-02-2005, 11:41 AM
well, the abit ax8 showed up on abits site like 4 months ago. and now the first place selling it just got it in stock.

perry_78
01-02-2005, 11:44 AM
Well, Asus A8N-SLi came onto the web a month ago. Lets just see how i goes. i should have made a poll how people believe to fare :)

OPPAINTER
01-02-2005, 12:05 PM
I should have a DFI 939 board next week.
So, things are getting there:D

OPP

Dumo
01-02-2005, 12:10 PM
Do you think it comes with A2 or A3?

Cyrus The Virus
01-02-2005, 12:11 PM
does anyone know wichone has the highest Vcore ?? DFI, ABIT, MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte

perry_78
01-02-2005, 12:13 PM
MSI NEO4 has :banana::banana::banana::banana: vcore (love that bannana :)) only about 1,5Vcore. Hope it has A3, if it has A2 i'm RMA'ing it :mad:

OPP :D Hallelujah! How long does it on average take between when you get the boards till they become available?

choseone214
01-02-2005, 12:16 PM
I should have a DFI 939 board next week.
So, things are getting there
Now you just need that Magic Fx55 ;) and a x850xt pe :)

Dumo
01-02-2005, 12:18 PM
MSI NEO4 has :banana::banana::banana::banana: vcore (love that bannana :)) only about 1,5Vcore. Hope it has A3, if it has A2 i'm RMA'ing it :mad: Thats xcactly what I'm thinkin...Its no use to get 2x6800s and cant torture 'em to the max.

Super strokey
01-02-2005, 01:20 PM
I hope it perfroms really well, cause its gonna have to be exceptional to beat the neo2 which has been a really great board, for me atleast

p4z1f1st
01-02-2005, 01:31 PM
nF3 or 4?

I'm praying it's 4. :D

it's definitvly nF4 ;)

otherwise it couldn't has SLI ;)

perry_78
01-02-2005, 02:46 PM
Some more drooling over pictures :) The more i see the better it is. The DFI rep for europe says these boards should ship mid January in Denmark :D :D :D :banana: :banana4: :banana: :banana4:

http://www.tweak.dk/forum/thread.php?threadid=33070&boardid=1&styleid=1

iboomalot
01-02-2005, 03:28 PM
Well, Asus A8N-SLi came onto the web a month ago. Lets just see how i goes. i should have made a poll how people believe to fare :)


if ASUS uses that POS OVP on its A8N-SLi then why would any hardcore OCer want it.

why spend 1000+ on GPUs and then have 2.8v on the ram :rolleyes:

drunkenmaster
01-02-2005, 03:49 PM
well, it has 3 or 3.1v stock in bios afaik, the asus sli board that is. So its looking up for them finally. lets be honest sli boards will only be bought by overclockers, and in like 3 pre built rigs from alienware and those types of companies, there is no market for the heat/power/speed in the oem market at all. whereas all the other asus boards could fit into any normal dell type companies systems, this one is for oc'ers only.

XyKo
01-02-2005, 03:51 PM
Can someone tell me what's DFI stands for?

choseone214
01-02-2005, 03:59 PM
if ASUS uses that POS OVP on its A8N-SLi then why would any hardcore OCer want it.

why spend 1000+ on GPUs and then have 2.8v on the ram

you get 3v with the asus sli and it mods to 3.8v+ on vdimm ;) the oVP on the asus is in the VCORE ;)

del_fuego
01-02-2005, 04:05 PM
the oVP on the asus is in the VCORE ;)

Same as the MSI offering, 1.65 vcore only.

Zueda
01-02-2005, 04:20 PM
Design For Innovation

Actually, I believe it is Diamond Flower Inc.
;)

Dojo | Warlord
01-02-2005, 04:25 PM
Actually, I believe it is Diamond Flower Inc.
;)


ding ding, we have a winner :toast:

you get a New Years cookie! :)

iboomalot
01-02-2005, 05:44 PM
you get 3v with the asus sli and it mods to 3.8v+ on vdimm ;) the oVP on the asus is in the VCORE ;)

hummm my A8V is 2.9v even if I added a OCZ booster which sucks.

glad the ram on the newer stuff can be volted up.

seemed so stupid asus would limit the ram voltage like it is on my current mobo.

Onepagebook
01-02-2005, 07:08 PM
I should have a DFI 939 board next week.
So, things are getting there:D

OPP


hehe...same here, but I beat you a bittttt ..only a bit.. :D
for this.let me know if you wanna read that.
http://www.devilsword.com/lpnf4u.jpg

Tirlista
01-02-2005, 07:13 PM
OMFG! I sure would! :cool:

Carre to send me a copy or get someone to host it?

Bennah
01-02-2005, 07:14 PM
Some more drooling over pictures :) The more i see the better it is. The DFI rep for europe says these boards should ship mid January in Denmark :D :D :D :banana: :banana4: :banana: :banana4:

http://www.tweak.dk/forum/thread.php?threadid=33070&boardid=1&styleid=1

The board is packed with stuff. 6 usb, 2 rj45, 7.1 onboard...

I got a feeling this is gonig to be a smokin' board...

hm.... has a molex connector on the board...

Where can I preorder one from :D...

eva2000
01-02-2005, 07:17 PM
I should have a DFI 939 board next week.
So, things are getting there:D

OPP

oooooh take piccies and let us know how it goes ... DFI all the way (looks at sig) :D

B5I8
01-02-2005, 10:58 PM
Seeing as how DFI kept the bridge for the 2 vid cards, is it still XLI or is this SLI?

STEvil
01-02-2005, 11:01 PM
I just sold my 754 board.. wonder if DFI will make a 939 board with the ATI chipset? hmm... :D

mrlobber
01-02-2005, 11:01 PM
Seeing as how DFI kept the bridge for the 2 vid cards, is it still XLI or is this SLI?

Interesting, what's in that "Dual Xpress graphics" chapter? Notice, it's in the table of contents of the Lanparty NF4 manual in OPB's picture, right after the SLI chapter?

I've been waiting for the DFI board like 3 months or more, so I cant resist doing this :worship: :slobber: although virtually nothing is yet known about the real features, bios options and performance of these upcoming boards.

InvisGreenMan
01-03-2005, 12:38 AM
Is that a huge row of jumpers for the SLi operation in behind the second 16x PCI-E slot?

H2OGun
01-03-2005, 02:02 AM
The sample board has arrived today - the packing is just like normal production boards. The box is huge. The BIOS has vCore up to 2.1v and vDimm up to 4v. Unlike Asus A8N, this board has no problem whatsoever running high HTT with 1:1, 1T RAM. Also, it does come with a bridge for the SLI - just like Asus board. There is a row of jumpers to set SLI/Non-SLI setting - not so sure about the rumours saying it will be soft set from BIOS.

Sorry for the poor quality pictures - they are taken with my mobile phone.

EDIT: better pictures added back in.

http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachments/forumid_13/covn_IMG_1073.jpg

idleuser
01-03-2005, 02:05 AM
omg H20gun I think i'm gonna faint!! drools! please tell us how well it benches :) do u know if DFI is releasing a board without SLI just the Nforce 4 ultra?

mrlobber
01-03-2005, 02:16 AM
The sample board has arrived today - the packing is just like normal production boards. The box is huge. The BIOS has vCore up to 2.1v and vDimm up to 4v. Unlike Asus A8N, this board has no problem whatsoever running high HTT with 1:1, 1T RAM. Also, it does come with a bridge for the SLI - just like Asus board. There is a row of jumpers to set SLI/Non-SLI setting - not so sure about the rumours saying it will be soft set from BIOS.

Sorry for the poor quality pictures - they are taken with my mobile phone.

:slobber: 4v Vdimm (just interesting, with or without the 3.3v PSU rail adjustment)? Holy :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: ! This board screams for the OCZ VX to be installed.

perry_78
01-03-2005, 02:20 AM
H20Gun OMFG! Nice! Love you guys!

OPB! Of course! :D:D:D:D:D

DFI shouldnt have an issue with this, after all its a killer comercial for them :)

L0$t Pr0PhEt
01-03-2005, 02:38 AM
omg omg!!!!!!

I want the S939 nF3 DFI board!!!!
I think its gonna come to late for me :(

I˛K
01-03-2005, 02:52 AM
The BIOS has vCore up to 2.1v and vDimm up to 4v.


:slobber: :slobber:

I can't hardly belive this....

the.m
01-03-2005, 03:01 AM
As usual DFI gives us what we want :cool:

DaGoof
01-03-2005, 03:11 AM
Gonna have to trade in my AGP x800 so I can run this thing. A shame, but I suppose it's worth it in the long run.

reject
01-03-2005, 03:30 AM
hahaha some people actually bought other brands
IMO AMR will be better, the cards run cooler and should oc furhter
AMR Q2 05 :D

Dissolved
01-03-2005, 03:31 AM
The sample board has arrived today - the packing is just like normal production boards. The box is huge. The BIOS has vCore up to 2.1v and vDimm up to 4v. Unlike Asus A8N, this board has no problem whatsoever running high HTT with 1:1, 1T RAM. Also, it does come with a bridge for the SLI - just like Asus board. There is a row of jumpers to set SLI/Non-SLI setting - not so sure about the rumours saying it will be soft set from BIOS.

Sorry for the poor quality pictures - they are taken with my mobile phone.


i dont really know who you are, But your freaking awesome to get the dfi in your hands first before onepage or even opp.

Hope it serves you well. and please for gawds sake post more updates.

esdee
01-03-2005, 03:45 AM
omg omg!!!!!!

I want the S939 nF3 DFI board!!!!
I think its gonna come to late for me :(

me too ... i want a nf3 939 DFI S O B A D!!!

D_o_S
01-03-2005, 04:03 AM
hehe...same here, but I beat you a bittttt ..only a bit.. :D
for this.let me know if you wanna read that.
http://www.devilsword.com/lpnf4u.jpg

Can you post a link, please?

p4z1f1st
01-03-2005, 04:30 AM
hmm.....so, the name was changed from "DFI lanparty nF4 SLI-D" to "DFI lanparty nF4 SLI-DR".....

choseone214
01-03-2005, 04:46 AM
They skipped the nf3 agp 939 board, lol if so thats just funny. :)

I hope its going to be a good board. :)

Boogotop
01-03-2005, 04:50 AM
2.1v for cpu and 4v for memory!!! hummmm!!!

like it :D

Cyrus The Virus
01-03-2005, 04:51 AM
I'm going to sell my ASUS A8N-SLI deluxe, this board is Awesom :slobber:

D_o_S
01-03-2005, 04:57 AM
Some more pics:

http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/Hardware/-Topic-Unique-V2-DFI-Lanparty-NF4-SLI-sujet-652188-1.htm

TEDY
01-03-2005, 05:07 AM
so price will be ?

idleuser
01-03-2005, 05:07 AM
Dates of Exit envisaged:
Lanparty NF4 Sli-d ( NF4-Ultra+SLI + NCV-E) - Semi January Pre-order: USS299 = > 224€
Lanparty UT NF4 ULTRA D (NF4 NCV-E) - Semi December pre-order: AU$330 = > 188€ :love:
Note: the prices are cans, the sites not having yet recue of directive on behalf of DFI...

Did I read correctly? HOpefully it won't cost 299 for this motherboard.

perry_78
01-03-2005, 05:07 AM
OPB, host or send us the PDF!

Those pictures have been taken from Japanese and Danish webistes without their mentioning :mad:

If you post pictures hosted by other websites, always link to the pages, and preferably give credit to the original author :mad: GNUFragman from Tweak.dk cant be too happy.

btw, i cant seem to DL TigerMilk :stick:

cantankerous
01-03-2005, 05:24 AM
hmmm it looks like the extra sata ports from the nvidia ones are being powered by the silicon image 3114 chipset. Interesting as after the poor write performance this chipset exhibited on the LPB board they are still going to use it. They swore they would never use the chipset again as it was a 'mistake' they didn't do their homework first on the performance over the 3112 which was faster.

Hombre
01-03-2005, 05:41 AM
The sample board has arrived today...

Please, please uninstall the chipset HSF and let us know what's printed on there...

Amazing board. Now everyone that owns a NF4 from another brand are gonna sell it... lol!
I don't know how MSI and Asus are gonna compete the beast :) :banana:

mrlobber
01-03-2005, 05:49 AM
Watch that overclock done by Oskar Wu, shown at that french site D o S linked to! 370htt 1:1 dual channel (2x256 sticks, though). Looking forward to Opp's results with great anticipation as he posted recently, he's getting that board next week.

p4z1f1st
01-03-2005, 05:51 AM
uhweeee......FSB of 370MHz :D

perry_78
01-03-2005, 05:59 AM
Please, please uninstall the chipset HSF and let us know what's printed on there...

Amazing board. Now everyone that owns a NF4 from another brand are gonna sell it... lol!
I don't know how MSI and Asus are gonna compete the beast :) :banana:

Well, that sucks for those who want to get one, because DFI wont be able to ship enough of them :p:

trans am
01-03-2005, 06:26 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22007

oh dude....I just popped a boner....!

choseone214
01-03-2005, 06:28 AM
2.1v for vcore..

Only the BEST cooling can run 2v+ vcore over 3400mhz on a64 period from 1.85v to 2v alone is like going from 1000mhz to 3000mhz at 1.5v just by increasing voltage .1v. :) .1v over 3400mhz is like adding another 500mhz to the cpu :)

perry_78
01-03-2005, 06:42 AM
2.1v for vcore..

Only the BEST cooling can run 2v+ vcore over 3400mhz on a64 period from 1.85v to 2v alone is like going from 1000mhz to 3000mhz at 1.5v just by increasing voltage .1v. :) .1v over 3400mhz is like adding another 500mhz to the cpu :)

But its good to know the option is there! Cant wait for LS action :D

Cyrus The Virus
01-03-2005, 06:53 AM
the A8N-SLI is a good and nice looking mainboard (that's what I think) but the Voltages are so low :(

First I wanted to sell my BH-5 Memory, And buy some G.Skill but I'm going to buy this DFI Board instead because of the Vcore (wich I miss very much on my ASUS) and the Super High Vdimm wich I need for my BH-5 and then I will try to sell my A8N-SLI :banana: :stick:

perry_78
01-03-2005, 07:04 AM
The DFI will do you good :) With your CPU even better clocks will no longer be wishful thinking :D

LoKi2k
01-03-2005, 07:05 AM
what is the max vcore i can give my fx55 under my vapo ls 240w? (for 24/7)

Torin
01-03-2005, 07:17 AM
Where is the proof of an nf3 DFI 939 board?

p4z1f1st
01-03-2005, 07:22 AM
i hope, the DFI doesn't have vcore-fluctuations...

Zueda
01-03-2005, 07:32 AM
Where is the proof of an nf3 DFI 939 board?

Dont know if this is solid evidence but here is a picture
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3447&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

split
01-03-2005, 09:15 AM
There was also a thread on the DFI forums about an AGP Nforce 3 version that got deleted as one party (mod on the forum) was saying it was going to be released, and DFI where telling people it wasn't.

Most of it still exists here (http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=348282).
The nail is this.

An update news for you. Due to the information update from Nvidia that they will start to mass delivery PCI express chipset by end of Sept. It means that PCI express card will be popular in Q4. So we change our product plan. We have decided to cease the production of nF3 Ultra D and enable new project of nF3 SLI/Ultra -D which can support PCI Express card. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Torin
01-03-2005, 09:30 AM
Well, if DFI doesn't release an nf3 939 board, that sucks. No way I'm upgrading my AGP card to PCI-E any time soon, so I guess I'll be going with the Neo2.

okra
01-03-2005, 09:32 AM
that thread contradicts itself, if you actually read it all.

sounds like everything is on track, you just might see an 939 nf3 ultra with other vid options besides AGP.

Unless it comes from DFI itself, I wouldn't put too much stock in the rampant speculation surrounding these boards.

Everyone has been waiting for these boards, and that causes the rumor mongers to get working.

DFI hasn't said anywhere officially that there will be no nf3 ultra AGP 939 board.

Kriller
01-03-2005, 09:41 AM
4vdimm and 2,1vcore is MAD :D

VX, LS and a FX-55 would be nice :p

charlie
01-03-2005, 09:51 AM
Could this be the BEST motherboard EVER offered to the OC'er at least since the KX7-333R??????

choseone214
01-03-2005, 10:06 AM
2x256 bh-5 at 2-2-2-5-1t
13x276=3588mhz ;)
or
2x512 VX at 2-2-2-5-1t
14x256=3588mhz ;)

That plus an x850xt pe at 840/680 :)

trans am
01-03-2005, 10:31 AM
How about 2 x850 XT pe's in VIA DualGFX Express with volt mods and dry ice on both gpu's?

cantankerous
01-03-2005, 10:33 AM
have you guys seen any X850's locally to buy? Out here in Canada I haven't seen one and ATI is a canadian company.

choseone214
01-03-2005, 10:36 AM
your not going to see the X850xt's yet they have not been released for sale yet, lol.

Jan 12th I think is the shipping date for the x850's

How about 2 x850 XT pe's in VIA DualGFX Express with volt mods and dry ice on both gpu's?

I think that could work also ;) we still need that 3500mhz cpu though :)

=[PULSAR]=
01-03-2005, 10:42 AM
Wow this board looks awesome, possibly my next motherboard. H2Ogun 4vdimm and 2.1vcore thats insane. Before updating your BIOS make sure you save that one, next one DFI might release might not be so gracious with there BIOS :p:

trans am
01-03-2005, 10:45 AM
http://www.viaarena.com/images/articles/k8t890%20002.jpg

this is via k8t890 pro chipset on their refference board. The only gripe I have about dfi sli is the need to use Nvidia. We all know that nvidia is crap for benching. It amazes me that DFI chose to use a limited chipset. Why not use a chipset that allows 2 video cards(sli) regardless of video card brand.

=[PULSAR]=
01-03-2005, 10:49 AM
this is via k8t890 pro chipset on their refference board. The only gripe I have about dfi sli is the need to use Nvidia. We all know that nvidia is crap for benching. It amazes me that DFI chose to use a limited chipset. Why not use a chipset that allows 2 video cards regardless of video card brand.

Are you sure they wont support ATI at all, or maybe they just set up the BETA versions that way because they have some deal worked out with Nvidia, so they would get a boost in sales initially.

4 VOLTS VDIMM, just thinking finally a worth while board to get some OCZ VX :D

iboomalot
01-03-2005, 10:51 AM
now we need some killer ram to take advantagd of this mobo

***looks in OCZs direction***

OCZ OCers DREAM ram that K icks A ss

Kit PN – OCZ5001024OCERSDRM-KA

DDR500@2.9v 2-2-2-5
DDR600@3.7v 2-3-2-10

now that would be sweet ***begins to weep in happyness ***

trans am
01-03-2005, 11:01 AM
=']Are you sure they wont support ATI at all, or maybe they just set up the BETA versions that way because they have some deal worked out with Nvidia, so they would get a boost in sales initially.

4 VOLTS VDIMM, just thinking finally a worth while board to get some OCZ VX :D


We'll you need that sli connector thing that connects the video cards first on the NF4.

VIA chipset doesn't need it, so all cards should work. If you want the DFI board you will HAVE to use NVIDIA video cards only!!!!

esdee
01-03-2005, 11:07 AM
VIA chipset doesn't need it, so all cards should work

Aaaaaarg ... this reminds me the microsoft- micrpsoft explorer case ... Nvidia just takes advantage of their Chipset monopoly!

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 11:18 AM
We'll you need that sli connector thing that connects the video cards first on the NF4.

VIA chipset doesn't need it, so all cards should work. If you want the DFI board you will HAVE to use NVIDIA video cards only!!!!
I'm still buying the board...and hopefully, two 6800 Ultras to go along with it. :D

Onepagebook
01-03-2005, 11:26 AM
who can host 12mb space, please pm me. I will have mine in 2~3 days.

p4z1f1st
01-03-2005, 11:29 AM
me :D

edit: argh, no sorry - my traffic is already at its limit :(

Jessfm
01-03-2005, 11:34 AM
who can host 12mb space, please pm me. I will have mine in 2~3 days.
sent

Nube
01-03-2005, 11:38 AM
daaammmm, im glad i waited to get my 3500winnie and dfi

so this thing uses 4vdimm safe ? so i could use 4vdimm on my ram with no extra cooling except on my ram and it will work fine and not burn out the mobo or anything ??

p4z1f1st
01-03-2005, 11:40 AM
who can host 12mb space, please pm me. I will have mine in 2~3 days.

what nice pics you have? :D

Jessfm
01-03-2005, 11:43 AM
daaammmm, im glad i waited to get my 3500winnie and dfi

so this thing uses 4vdimm safe ? so i could use 4vdimm on my ram with no extra cooling except on my ram and it will work fine and not burn out the mobo or anything ??

Its only safe to supply ram with the volts that the ram is specced for. Anything over that and your on your own. Just cos its available does not mean you can use it, although everyone here is likely to try it ;)

Onepagebook
01-03-2005, 11:45 AM
about the SLI operation, DFI got really unique way here:
from user's manual PDF by DFI:

http://www.devilsword.com/lpnf4/dfisli.jpg

http://www.devilsword.com/lpnf4/dfinonsli.jpg

http://www.devilsword.com/lpnf4/dfijumper1.jpg

http://www.devilsword.com/lpnf4/dfijumper2.jpg

trans am
01-03-2005, 11:49 AM
WTF? opb. Is this thing really necessary? Is this going to enable other cards other than just nvidia?


Well, even if it goes up to 4v, you still need the power to get your 3.3v line up to 4v if you want pump that much juice into your ram. The good news is, even if you have a psu that has sufficient volts on the 3.3 rail, you will at least get your vdimm up to 3.3v with no mods.

Onepagebook
01-03-2005, 11:53 AM
WTF? opb. Is this thing really necessary? Is this going to enable other cards other than just nvidia?


Well, even if it goes up to 4v, you still need the power to get your 3.3v line up to 4v if you want pump that much juice into your ram. The good news is, even if you have a psu that has sufficient volts on the 3.3 rail, you will at least get your vdimm up to 3.3v with no mods.


other cards than NV? I don't think so. :D

mrlobber
01-03-2005, 11:55 AM
other cards than NV? I don't think so. :D

Ehh, the only drawback of this mobo found so far.

trans am
01-03-2005, 11:56 AM
other cards than NV? I don't think so. :D
LOL, too bad. Nshidia!

Dirt
01-03-2005, 11:57 AM
This card is a must have. Allmost pissed in my pants when i read the vDimm :D

Just hope it gets to Sweden real fast, will be stuck with PII 450 after the 15th of january :(

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 12:09 PM
Well, even if it goes up to 4v, you still need the power to get your 3.3v line up to 4v if you want pump that much juice into your ram. The good news is, even if you have a psu that has sufficient volts on the 3.3 rail, you will at least get your vdimm up to 3.3v with no mods.
I'm sure they use the 5V line to run the mem voltage:D

OPP

trans am
01-03-2005, 12:12 PM
I'm sure they use the 5V line to run the mem voltage:D

OPP

OK/ I was looking at past dfi ut nf3 250gb. That is good to use the 5v rail. Thanks OPP

Kriller
01-03-2005, 12:14 PM
We'll you need that sli connector thing that connects the video cards first on the NF4.

VIA chipset doesn't need it, so all cards should work. If you want the DFI board you will HAVE to use NVIDIA video cards only!!!!

You can use an ATI card on the DFI, you can even use one nVidia and one ATI card, but ofcourse not in SLI-mode... BUT you can't get one game on both gcards, it's like peapole who uses quad-screen today with one AGP-card and one PCI-card

Edit: I would bet some cash that OPP is right about the 4vdimm, otherwise DFI have done something wrong, unless they plan to remove the 4vdimm in the final realese...

Razor_cut
01-03-2005, 12:18 PM
Wouldnt it be stoopid by DFI not to allow ATI cards on the board..

Glad to here Kriller

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 12:26 PM
OK/ I was looking at past dfi ut nf3 250gb. That is good to use the 5v rail. Thanks OPP
A little history of the NF3 250.:D
Oskar did not design that mobo. He got it and had to fix it from what he had there already to work with.
The NF4 on the other hand was made from scatch so to get 4V on the mem of course he would use the 5V.

OPP

perry_78
01-03-2005, 12:33 PM
Howcome Europe and US are generally excluded from HW manufacturing/testing/design with the proud excpetion of ATI/Intel/nVidia? :( Not fair :)

Just because Taiwan is the center for everything related to hardware?

trans am
01-03-2005, 12:37 PM
You can use an ATI card on the DFI, you can even use one nVidia and one ATI card, but ofcourse not in SLI-mode... BUT you can't get one game on both gcards, it's like peapole who uses quad-screen today with one AGP-card and one PCI-card

Edit: I would bet some cash that OPP is right about the 4vdimm, otherwise DFI have done something wrong, unless they plan to remove the 4vdimm in the final realese...


I'm sorry to make it sound confusing. What I meant was that the user is limited to using nvidia only if they want to use the sli.

K8t890 uses dual gfx express(similar technology as sli) and you are not limited to one brand of video card.

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 12:38 PM
Howcome Europe and US are generally excluded from HW manufacturing/testing/design with the proud excpetion of ATI/Intel/nVidia? :( Not fair :)

Just because Taiwan is the center for everything related to hardware?
Cheap Labor;)

Just kidding:D

OPP

Doumz
01-03-2005, 12:39 PM
Onepagebook

If i'm not wrong,you showed screen of the SLI part of the Dfi Nf4 Manual,right ?

The Sli part showing support for the Sli of Nvidia


Would y show us a little more about the next part,named Dual Xpress Grap.....

Cause if i'm not wrong,Xpress is the name Ati have for their Chipsets

Could it be that Dfi have something in it sleeve concerning ati ?

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 12:42 PM
All I know is ATI won't need that bridge to comunicate between the 2 cards, they will do it through a driver.

OPP

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 12:43 PM
Sweet. No more relying on a DDR Booster.

EDIT:
When is the ATI solution expected to be released?

Kriller
01-03-2005, 12:47 PM
I'm sorry to make it sound confusing. What I meant was that the user is limited to using nvidia only if they want to use the sli.

K8t890 uses dual gfx express(similar technology as sli) and you are not limited to one brand of video card.

Aha, so that was what you meant. We have always know that SLI is nVidia only, I hope the VIA chipset is a really good overclocker and DFI will make one of those boards too :) Or they meybe will realse an ATI (amr right?) board...

btw, does anyone know if DFI have ever made an VIA board, i've seen nVidia, Intel and SiS...

Dirt
01-03-2005, 12:48 PM
All I know is ATI won't need that bridge to comunicate between the 2 cards, they will do it through a driver.

OPP

So you say that there will be a possibility to run 2xATI PCI-E cards in "SLI-mode" on NF4 SLI cards in the future??

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 12:49 PM
So you say that there will be a possibility to run 2xATI PCI-E cards in "SLI-mode" on NF4 SLI cards in the future??
I have no Idea if it will work on NF4 or not.

OPP

mrlobber
01-03-2005, 12:49 PM
OK/ I was looking at past dfi ut nf3 250gb. That is good to use the 5v rail. Thanks OPP

Still, it sounds just too fantastic to be true. To allow up to 4.0Vdimm selectable in bios for the end-users (if it works indeed without adjusting the 3.3 rail as it was the case with DFI's Socket754 board, just as you said), is just insane. I wonder whether DFI intends to sell a single board to any non-enthusiast at all because even red hot large warnings with bold font size of 56 in the manual wouldn't stop those ordinary users at least to try out what's that 4.0v setting - and damaging their value ram in quite a short time.

Then again, I don't care as long as DFI comes out with the greatest ocing mobo ever :devil: (how long was that when we all prayed for simultaneous insane Vcore and Vdimm options in a single motherboard (not speaking about mods here) - now our askings might finally be rewarded)...

Kriller
01-03-2005, 12:49 PM
Dirt: Not on a nVidia platform, ATI:s own chipset...

Edit: Atleast as I have understand it...

Dirt
01-03-2005, 12:51 PM
Kriller is that a fact?

EDIT: OK ;)

Kriller
01-03-2005, 12:53 PM
That was my understanding when I read the news about it.

Offtopic: Anyone got that link with one VIA guy that testet an X800 and PCX5700 in quake 3 on their multi-gpu system, can't find it...

Edit: ofcourse trans_am, I wrote that a couple of posts higer up.

trans am
01-03-2005, 12:54 PM
Dirt: Not on a nVidia platform, ATI:s own chipset...

Edit: Atleast as I have understand it...

And VIA K8t890

Onepagebook
01-03-2005, 12:56 PM
ok Folks, here is the PDF from DFI LP NF4, all the copyright and credit should be on DFI
Many thanks to Jessfm host that 11mb space. :toast:

Here you go (http://onepage.techcool.co.uk/lpnf4.pdf)

Dirt
01-03-2005, 12:56 PM
OT: Well since we have a lot of OC Guru´s in this thread I´ll take the chance to ask if you would go for a nVidia 6800GT (non-SLI) solution or a ATI X850XT on this card.

trans am
01-03-2005, 12:57 PM
OT: Well since we have a lot of OC Guru´s in this thread I´ll take the chance to as if you would go for a nVidia 6800GT (non-SLI) solution or a ATI X850XT on this card.

x850xt pe

Thanks jessfm and OPB. :toast:

perry_78
01-03-2005, 01:00 PM
Thanks OPB! Nice! :D

And of course Jessfm! Thanks for hosting this :)

MaxxxRacer
01-03-2005, 01:00 PM
wow that board is just amazing

OPP, AMR will have a bridge but it will be between the pcie slots with the chipset. So basicly its the same thing, just that it will work will all of the ati pcie cards, unlike nvidia who has to make special pcie cards for sli.

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 01:01 PM
I scrolled straight down to the BIOS stuff on that PDF manual. Looks like we'll be having memory options galore again. :D

Doumz
01-03-2005, 01:01 PM
Loading the Long waited Manual ;p


Gonna read from start to end until the board finally come out ;p

Dirt
01-03-2005, 01:02 PM
Loading the Long waited Manual ;p


Gonna read from start to end until the board finally come out ;p

WORD :p:

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 01:04 PM
wow that board is just amazing

OPP, AMR will have a bridge but it will be between the pcie slots with the chipset. So basicly its the same thing, just that it will work will all of the ati pcie cards, unlike nvidia who has to make special pcie cards for sli.

I see, thanks.
My sources just can't get anything right these days:D

OPP

perry_78
01-03-2005, 01:06 PM
What? server down :(

Jessfm
01-03-2005, 01:08 PM
Thanks OPB. I was happy with my Neo2 and just purchased a 128mb GT 6800 too, now all thats going to change when this puppy is available.

I think the Vmem has to be the best design implication, for me that is a big PLUS for this board (and possibly future all DFI's? now they designed it). Vcore is Nice but not likely to be as useful IMHO

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 01:11 PM
I think the Vmem has to be the best design implication, for me that is a big PLUS for this board (and possibly future all DFI's? now they designed it). Vcore is Nice but not likely to be as useful IMHO
There is only one person I know that uses that much v-core.

Tom Holck :D

He will be a happy camper with this mobo.

OPP

choseone214
01-03-2005, 01:12 PM
yeah when you go over 1.97v you go into dangerzone :)

Dirt
01-03-2005, 01:13 PM
Dont you think vDimm from 3,3-4,0 will be enabled after setting some Expert Mode or something. Seems strange with a spectra that starts as high as 3,3 volt.

perry_78
01-03-2005, 01:14 PM
Oh the Vcore will be usefull :D

Im not a guru like OPP to make my own cascades, im sure i would try if i got a FAQ/walkthrough (wink wink hint hint ;)), so untill further notice it will only be a VapoLS, around June. My chip isnt the best, but it should do some 3400 @ 2.1Vcore :)

Cant wait untill Venice :D

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 01:17 PM
Oh the Vcore will be usefull :D

Im not a guru like OPP to make my own cascades, im sure i would try if i got a FAQ/walkthrough (wink wink hint hint ;)), so untill further notice it will only be a VapoLS, around June. My chip isnt the best, but it should do some 3400 @ 2.1Vcore :)

Cant wait untill Venice :D

I don't make my own Cascades. PCIce makes my cascades.
If I did make them, they would be the best:cool:

OPP :cool:

NWEng
01-03-2005, 01:19 PM
I've skipped over several mobos waiting to upgrade my A8V 1.02, this looks like a winner so far! :bounces:


:rocker:

perry_78
01-03-2005, 01:20 PM
The Dual Xpress Graphics Function supports the following:

Two PCI Express x16 Graphics Cards"

Does this mean X800XT in Dual mode? :banana4:

charlie
01-03-2005, 01:20 PM
$299USD and they'll sell out faster than believed possible......

:(

C

Jessfm
01-03-2005, 01:21 PM
$299USD and they'll sell out faster than believed possible......

:(

C
WHAT ? :confused:

Dirt
01-03-2005, 01:23 PM
$299USD and they'll sell out faster than believed possible......

:(

C

Well I know Im gonna have one, and I dont care what it costs.

Nube
01-03-2005, 01:23 PM
Its only safe to supply ram with the volts that the ram is specced for. Anything over that and your on your own. Just cos its available does not mean you can use it, although everyone here is likely to try it ;)

so i can select 3.5vdimm to VX ram and it will be okay without any extra cooling

would ocz 520w PSU be okay for that ?

NiCKE^
01-03-2005, 01:24 PM
Insane board!! I do need to get a rid of my MSI now and buy a DFI+PCI-E card(s).

Dirt
01-03-2005, 01:27 PM
Well im just looking for a place in sweden to preorder the mobo:

3500+ Winchester, OCZ PS 520W and a 6800GT is ordered. Just cant decide if i should change to a X850XT or not :(

perry_78
01-03-2005, 01:29 PM
Now the question is, which boards are ye getting?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22020

charlie
01-03-2005, 01:30 PM
And it'll be worth EVERY penny.

The "Definitive" motherboard has arrived.............

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 01:31 PM
so i can select 3.5vdimm to VX ram and it will be okay without any extra cooling

would ocz 520w PSU be okay for that ?


OCZ 520W better be OK with it, that's what I have:D

OPP

perry_78
01-03-2005, 01:31 PM
Looks like nF4 SLI-DR to me :/

What is UT anyways? Obviously NF4 SLi-DR is better than UT NF4-SLI-DR as its the top model :|

Doumz
01-03-2005, 01:36 PM
Ut mean the board only,like any other mb maker sell

the normal lanparty come with everything,cable,pc transpo,etc

iboomalot
01-03-2005, 01:37 PM
hummm I got a X800XT being replaced thats AGP I could trade that in for a PCI X800XT

two questions

1. would a X800XT pci card work on this??

2. my 3700eb is stable on my A8V at 3-2-2 @ 247 and 3-2-3 @ 259 with 2.8ish volts. What would you guess my EB could run with 4v avil to it???

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 01:41 PM
hummm I got a X800XT being replaced thats AGP I could trade that in for a PCI X800XT

two questions

1. would a X800XT pci card work on this??

2. my 3700eb is stable on my A8V at 3-2-2 @ 247 and 3-2-3 @ 259 with 2.8ish volts. What would you guess my EB could run with 4v avil to it???
1)The X800XT will work no problem.

2) I don't think EB will like that much voltage, wild guess says around 280MHz with about 3.5V.

OPP

choseone214
01-03-2005, 01:45 PM
I want to see what it will do with the same parts Opp had in the neo2 the bh-5, fx55+x800xt at the same clocks in 3dmark 2001 ;)

I wonder if it will be as fast, faster or slower :).

Dirt
01-03-2005, 01:53 PM
What does: "Diagnostic LED connector" and "FronX" mean??

idleuser
01-03-2005, 01:56 PM
Now the question is, which boards are ye getting?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22020

The cheapest I can't afford :mad:

D_o_S
01-03-2005, 01:58 PM
What does: "Diagnostic LED connector" and "FronX" mean??

Diagnostic LED connector is probably something like MSI's D-Bracket leds. FrontX is a front bay device with all the handy connectors (USB, audio) upfront...

:YIPPIE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE MANUAL :YIPPIE:

I'm sure that this will change the lives of many people...

Fewture
01-03-2005, 01:58 PM
And it'll be worth EVERY penny.

The "Definitive" motherboard has arrived.............
Well..lets see about that. Specs are nice, but I have only seen 1 bench so far and it didn't give a clear picture. So we really know nothing about this board other than it has potential on paper ;)

The only thing that makes me cheer atm is the fact that Oskar has been involved in the design :D

Dirt
01-03-2005, 02:01 PM
With the risk to be laughed at... who is this Oskar fella?

D O S: Okey. I need the DFI UT nF4 SLI-DR then :)

Kriller
01-03-2005, 02:07 PM
Oscar_Wu from some french forum right?

Dirt
01-03-2005, 02:13 PM
Oscar_Wu from some french forum right?

Well what about him?

Kriller
01-03-2005, 02:13 PM
Well what about him?


The only thing that makes me cheer atm is the fact that Oskar has been involved in the design :D

that I presume?

Dirt
01-03-2005, 02:17 PM
Well I got that part, whats so special with this guy??

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 02:24 PM
Well I got that part, whats so special with this guy??
What makes him special is he's a XtremeSystems Forum Member:D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=5267
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/search.php?searchid=196553

OPP

MIN_Roadkill
01-03-2005, 02:25 PM
He is the DaVinci of designing overclockable boards.

iboomalot
01-03-2005, 02:26 PM
280 @ 3.5v would be fine by me if it can hit it. were you thinking 3-2-2 or 3-2-3 on your guess???

hummm ***dreams about 360 FSB with a 4/5 divider***

p4z1f1st
01-03-2005, 02:27 PM
ahh, good :)

the board for me is the LP-UT nF4 SLI-D or the LP-UT nF4 Ultra-D :)

(who the hell needs the silicon-raid-controller :rolleyes: - the nF4-SLI/nF4-U-chipset is sATA300-ready ;))

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 02:28 PM
280 @ 3.5v would be fine by me if it can hit it. were you thinking 3-2-2 or 3-2-3 on your guess???

hummm ***dreams about 360 FSB with a 4/5 divider***
3-2-2, I know it can be done with one stick.
280 may be really pushing it in dual mode:D

OPP

Dirt
01-03-2005, 02:32 PM
He is the DaVinci of designing overclockable boards.

Good exponation, thnx :banana4:

Fewture
01-03-2005, 02:35 PM
Well I got that part, whats so special with this guy??
He's a genius and makes fast boards and biosses to go with it :D Basicly.. :P

iboomalot
01-03-2005, 02:37 PM
hummm I might have to spend the money on this

I figure my X800XT @ PE+ speeds will work until the R520 comes out this summer and I bet this board should ROCK with future upgrades.

R520 this summer and trade my 3500+ in for a FX-55 after the FX-57 has made the FX-55's prices drop below 700.00 USD :D

Might not be close to OPP's Phase change super cooled monster but a 3ghz 1mb cache FX-55 with two R520s in AMR config will be a decent gaming rig at the end of the summer. :D

Onepagebook
01-03-2005, 02:41 PM
Oscar_Wu from some french forum right?


Oskar Wu is "made in Taiwan" :D

Kriller
01-03-2005, 02:44 PM
Oskar Wu is "made in Taiwan" :D

same :banana::banana::banana::banana: ;)

Fewture
01-03-2005, 03:13 PM
Oskar Wu is "made in Taiwan" :D
LOL :D

Zanr Zij
01-03-2005, 03:20 PM
Some spec of DFI LanParty NF4 SLI :

NVIDIA nForce4 SLI
CPU : Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64
PCI Express : 20X
NVIDIA SLI Multi-GPU
Ports USB : 10
Disques durs : 4 PATA (UDMA133) + 4 SATA1 (1,5GB/s) + 4 SATA 2 (3GB/s)
RAID Morphing
Cross-Controller RAID
NVIDIA ActiveArmor
Native Gigabit Ethernet
NVIDIA Firewall
NVIDIA nTune
8 channel audio (Dolby 7.1 Karajan)
DFI CMOS Reloaded
DFI Genie Bios

Jumper to select SLI mode or not
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/ZanrZij/A64/DFI%20LanParty%20NF4%20SLI/DFI-bridge.jpg

7.1 Karajan Sound :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/ZanrZij/A64/DFI%20LanParty%20NF4%20SLI/DFI-karajan.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/ZanrZij/A64/DFI%20LanParty%20NF4%20SLI/DFI-karajan-2.jpg

First Screenshot @370@1T : / edit : not me :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/ZanrZij/A64/DFI%20LanParty%20NF4%20SLI/DFI-chipset-FSB370.jpg

iboomalot
01-03-2005, 03:22 PM
how high can the FSB go when the bus multiplier when set at 5x ???

I heard the a8v for example becomes unstable above 1150mhz


ouch 370 and only 7400 sandra those 6-6 clocks sure are hurting things.

what LDT did you use at 370?????

Jessfm
01-03-2005, 03:27 PM
Some spec of DFI LanParty NF4 SLI :

NVIDIA nForce4 SLI
CPU : Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64
PCI Express : 20X
NVIDIA SLI Multi-GPU
Ports USB : 10
Disques durs : 4 PATA (UDMA133) + 4 SATA1 (1,5GB/s) + 4 SATA 2 (3GB/s)
RAID Morphing
Cross-Controller RAID
NVIDIA ActiveArmor
Native Gigabit Ethernet
NVIDIA Firewall
NVIDIA nTune
8 channel audio (Dolby 7.1 Karajan)
DFI CMOS Reloaded
DFI Genie Bios

Jumper to select SLI mode or not
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/ZanrZij/A64/DFI%20LanParty%20NF4%20SLI/DFI-bridge.jpg

7.1 Karajan Sound :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/ZanrZij/A64/DFI%20LanParty%20NF4%20SLI/DFI-karajan.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/ZanrZij/A64/DFI%20LanParty%20NF4%20SLI/DFI-karajan-2.jpg

First Screenshot @370@1T

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/ZanrZij/A64/DFI%20LanParty%20NF4%20SLI/DFI-chipset-FSB370.jpg

Just AWSOME
:slobber:

Zanr Zij
01-03-2005, 03:27 PM
who can confirm that this mobo can lock PCI Express clock ? Thanks :)

Onepagebook
01-03-2005, 03:28 PM
I think the jumper would be bit different from the new version.;)

I think more importantly, 3-6-6 is not that necessary for everyone :D , from several conversations with oskar,
we all think that's just the confirmation that how high the fsb this board can reach.
As long as board can do stable @ DDR600~650 with CL 2.5, I think that's good enough.

Zanr Zij
01-03-2005, 03:31 PM
I think the jumper would be bit different from the new version.;)

maybe b'coz admin of dfi-street said that this mobo first release about Feb/ March may be June :D...

cantankerous
01-03-2005, 03:32 PM
I too am glad about the 5v rail.

If the board can only use nvidia cards which was expected why the hassle of the massive jumpers? No other SLI board has this to enable SLI.

Lastviking
01-03-2005, 03:39 PM
Oscar_Wu from some french forum right?


:D

Nice board but i think i get a new aprilia rsv mille 04a instead.

Zanr Zij
01-03-2005, 03:43 PM
I think the jumper would be bit different from the new version.;)

I think more importantly, 3-6-6 is not that necessary for everyone :D , from several conversations with oskar,
we all think that's just the confirmation that how high the fsb this board can reach.
As long as board can do stable @ DDR600~650 with CL 2.5, I think that's good enough.


most Important in performance is Command Rate ( 1T ) and ratio of CPU Speed/ Ram bus... ( not be multi ) ... .Timing give increase about 3-5% at same bus...
Of course cas 2.5-x-x-y be better :D ( x < =4 )

Tube
01-03-2005, 03:46 PM
nice board but too expensive... I am not ready to pay that much just for the voltages. I like the board layout though

Zanr Zij
01-03-2005, 03:51 PM
yeah, now happy with MSI Neo2 because of price of it and PCI Express Dual Vid... Too Expensive... But maybe change in midle of this year.. :) or sooner if have money :D

Dirt
01-03-2005, 03:52 PM
:D

Nice board but i think i get a new aprilia rsv mille 04a instead.

Good choice :D

Cranox
01-03-2005, 03:58 PM
Vcore 2.1v , vdimm 4v Im in love :banana4:

Skip
01-03-2005, 04:10 PM
wow, no need for vmods!!

just fried my abit nf7-s 2.0 2 days ago when i slipped with a voltmeter before i was going to mod! RMA is my friend.

trans am
01-03-2005, 04:10 PM
Dfi needs to do something based on a different chipset. people are not stupid. They want choices. The whole nvidia sli thing is such a gimmick. It's cool how it works and it helps games, benching etc. but the nvidia only thing is really a shame. Who knows, maybe by the time there are flagship pci-e cards from ati and nvidia, DFi will have a board that supports both cards for dual gpu rendering. :bday:

SAE
01-03-2005, 04:44 PM
That board has pros and cons, but I am tempted ;)

I want that now :D

Jessfm
01-03-2005, 04:51 PM
That board has pros and cons, but I am tempted ;)

I want that now :D

Spill the beans then, what the cons IYHO

shadowing
01-03-2005, 04:57 PM
Whoa. This board is awesome. The only thing that would convince me in buying it now is whether or not people have good results overclocking with it.

SAE
01-03-2005, 04:58 PM
Spill the beans then, what the cons IYHO
Cons: NVidia vid cards only :(

SAE
01-03-2005, 05:07 PM
+ Single ATi. :stick:
Erm, why buying an SLI board when there's only an option for single ati cards!? :confused: A single ATI card could also be used on an NF4 Ultra for much less money, but cause peeps are wanting the best they buy SLI and are forced to go nvidia for vid card again :(

I highly doubt DFI has a VIA variant in petto...

tritium
01-03-2005, 05:26 PM
Erm, why buying an SLI board when there's only an option for single ati cards!?

Then buy the NON SLI version of the board.

SAE
01-03-2005, 05:30 PM
Erm, why buying an SLI board when there's only an option for single ati cards!?

Then buy the NON SLI version of the board.
That's the problem here! I want SLI, but I'd really like to have the option what manufacturer to chose...

No further discussion bout that please, anyone could see that as spam ;)

shadowing
01-03-2005, 05:32 PM
I think that's a toughie. The only way i see for that to happen is if there is Nvidia works with ATI to produce such chipset.

But onto the the topic...

How much does the DFI Socket 939 cost? And i mean each one... (sorry if this was already answered)

tritium
01-03-2005, 05:39 PM
That's the problem here! I want SLI, but I'd really like to have the option what manufacturer to chose...

No further discussion bout that please, anyone could see that as spam ;)

How is that SPAM. This looks like a great board!!
It seems that there are a lot of people waiting for the DFI solution for s939
Nforce3 or 4. Now that it is comming out people are complaining about what chipset it has, is it SLI or not, How many SATA ports, etc..
The point is it looks to be a killer board for overclocking.

STEvil
01-03-2005, 05:45 PM
You know guys, if ATI wants SLI and cant do it through the PCI-E bus they could just connect the cards with an "ide" cable like the voodoo 2's used to do... didnt need any special crap back then (just driver support - hint hint), why should we need it now??? :D

trans am
01-03-2005, 06:28 PM
You know guys, if ATI wants SLI and cant do it through the PCI-E bus they could just connect the cards with an "ide" cable like the voodoo 2's used to do... didnt need any special crap back then (just driver support - hint hint), why should we need it now??? :D

Because the nvidia chipset calls for the sli connector on the cards. Ati doesn't have that connector on the pcb. The ati chipset also needs a connector to enable the dual rendering this is so ati can basically do what nvidia is doing to compete with them. So The happy medium is the VIA k8t890 where all you need to enable the dual gpu rendering is a simple driver. All these damn chipsets trying to have a pissing contest with dual rendering. THe best option IMO is VIA. Everyone wins.

EQuito
01-03-2005, 06:45 PM
FYI: straight from DFI PR about 2 minutes ago:

This model is slated for launch on Jan 4th, which is tomorrow. After the launch, the board will be available in limited quantity initially but as soon as our production is ramped up, the quantity will become more adequate. The best place to check on availability in the US is newegg.com. :toast:

choseone214
01-03-2005, 06:49 PM
I say gameve and or zipzoomfly first ;) they had the 754 board first for preorders :)

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 07:00 PM
This model is slated for launch on Jan 4th, which is tomorrow. After the launch, the board will be available in limited quantity initially but as soon as our production is ramped up, the quantity will become more adequate. The best place to check on availability in the US is newegg.com.
If this is true, I'll be refreshing my browser every 30 minutes in the same manner that we all did when the VX was released. Then, I'll take the rest of the day off due to the stress and anxiety. :D

EDIT:
Anyone know if Asus has a 6800 Ultra PCIe out yet?

EQuito
01-03-2005, 07:05 PM
If this is true, I'll be refreshing my browser every 30 minutes...I can't guarantee it'll happen but I can tell you she's very trustworthy... :D

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 07:06 PM
DFI® Answers to the Enthusiasts with Launch of LANParty™ NF4 SLI-DR and LANPartyUT™ NF4 Ultra-D Motherboards

-- The new nForce™ 4 chipset based motherboards support dual PCI-Express video cards and boast the industry’s most powerful performance enhancing options to deliver the ultimate user experience --



For further information, contact:
Vivian Lien
DFI San Jose
510.274.8000 x 121
vivian@dfiweb.com



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:


Hayward, CA (January 4, 2005) – DFI®, a worldwide leader in industrial computing solutions and maker of the LANParty™ series of motherboards, today launched the new LANParty NF4 SLI-DR and LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboards for the socket 939 AMD® Athlon™ 64 platform. Taking full advantage of the rich feature set the NVIDIA® nForce4 chipsets have to offer, the new DFI UV-sensitive motherboards bring more performance lead to high-end desktop computing than others.


SLI™ (Scalable Link Interface) and DXG™ (Dual Xpress Graphics) Technologies
Based on the nForce 4 SLI chipset, the new LANParty NF4 SLI-DR motherboard is DFI’s first to fully support NVIDIA’s new SLI technology in the signature LANParty package. Delivering almost twice the performance of a single GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) configuration, SLI brings more graphics realism to desktop PCs than any other technologies. The multiple GPU support of SLI takes advantage of the increased PCI-Express bandwidth and enables DFI’s new motherboard to support two identical PCI-Express video cards simultaneously using a bridge connector. Seamlessly operating in parallel, the new LANParty motherboard provides the perfect solution for real time rendering, complex video processing or intensive game play.



Similarly, the nForce 4 Ultra chipset based LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboard supports dual display cards to deliver the ultimate graphics experience. DFI’s proprietary DXG (Dual Xpress Graphics) Technology benefits from the multiple PCI-Express lanes the chipset supports, using the 16x and 2x configurations, to allow for versatile graphics support and utmost future-proof upgrade ability.


New Storage Standard
The new LANParty NF4 SLI-DR and LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboards bring several important technological breakthroughs to the AMD socket 939 platform. Designed for users to run multiple applications without bottlenecks, both motherboards support Serial ATA II hard drives and Native Command Queuing (NCQ). Serial ATA II delivers a high-speed transfer rate of 3GB/second, more than twice as fast as traditional ATA133. NCQ introduces asynchronous I/O and increases drive reliability in heavy workloads by eliminating much of the mechanical wear and tear.



To provide a reliable and scalable data environment, the motherboards support RAID through NVIDIA’s new NV RAID Utility software. NV RAID allows for both Serial ATA and IDE 0, 1, 0+1 RAID configurations. Through its Window’s based utility suite, users can now easily partition hard drives and configure RAID.



In addition to the multiple RAID functions, the SLI version brings RAID 5 to the desktop with its integrated Silicon Image 3114 chip. RAID 5 is one of the most popular RAID levels, where it stripes both data and parity information across three or more drives, removing the bottleneck that the dedicated parity drive presents and improving write performance.



Performance and Stability Enhancement Features
Boasting the industry’s most complete and advanced BIOS options, the new LANParty and LANPartyUT motherboards raise the bar even further with new additions. For the overclocking minded enthusiasts, both motherboards now support memory voltage from 2.5V to 4.0V, CPU core voltage up to 2.1V, chipset voltage from 1.5V to 1.8V, HTT ranging from 1.2 to 1.5, adjustable multiplier control up to 20x and a large range of Async settings. Combined with DFI’s CMOS Reloaded™ technology, both motherboards enable users to maximize performance potentials while enjoy the convenience of saving all the BIOS settings on the fly, renaming to customize CMOS settings, and recalling using a user-defined hot key.



To provide rock solid stability, both nForce4 chipset based motherboards feature Japanese aluminum electrolytic capacitors, magnetic levitation north bridge cooling fan with fan speed control, and all aluminum heat sink on mosfets. The conductive polymer (electrolytic) aluminum solid capacitors provide high resistance to over-voltage and reverse voltage as compared with other capacitors, making them the ideal choice for overclocking and mission critical motherboards. To further provide maximum cooling on-board, both motherboards feature DFI’s first magnetic levitation chipset cooling fan that moves almost twice the air compared to standard chipset fans while producing extremely little noise. Thanks to magnetic levitation technology, the spinning fan blades “float” in a magnetic field and thereby dramatically reduces friction, wear and tear, and heat generation. All of these hardware implementations directly contribute to cooler, quieter and longer lasting motherboards.



Most Extensive Integrated Features
Designed to lead in most features per value, both LANParty NF4 SLI-DR and LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboards comprise of DFI’s proprietary EZ On and Reset buttons to make testing and installation easy, dual Gigabit LAN (PCI and PCI Express based) for blazing fast network connection, and NV Active Armor Firewall to protect clients from security attacks at a decreased CPU utilization rate. Audiophiles are entertained with the proprietary Karajan 8-channel audio solution. With its independent audio riser card, unwanted static noise and other audio interference are eliminated to produce a superior sound quality.



Availability and Package Details
The LANParty NF4 SLI-DR package includes matching colour UV reactive round and SATA cables, PC Transpo computer carrying case, FrontX break out box, SLI bridge and on-board SLI switch caps. The LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboard is bundled with matching colour UV reactive round and SATA cables and SLI bridge. Both LANParty NF4 SLI-DR and LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboards are currently available in limited quantities through DFI’s authorized resellers worldwide. For more information on where to buy and the complete specifications, please visit http://www.dfi.com.tw or email sales@dfiweb.com.


LANParty NF4 SLI-DR -----------------------------LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22033&stc=1 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22034&stc=1

About DFI® (San Jose), Inc.

Founded in 1981 in the heart of Asia, DFI, Inc. is a worldwide leader in motherboard design and manufacturing. Headquartered in Taiwan, DFI’s international presence includes the United States, the Netherlands, China and Japan. Dedicated to manufacturing the highest quality solutions for the expanding IT market, DFI’s product lines include a complete line-up of advanced motherboards, graphics solutions, and Applied Computing Platforms. The company sells its products through a selected group of distributors, system builders, VARs, retailers and e-tailers internationally.



DFI’s US branch office is located at 30991 San Clemente Street, Hayward, CA 94545. For more information on the company, please visit www.dfi.com.tw or email Vivian@dfiweb.com.



DFI and LANParty are registered trademarks. Other product names are either trademarks or trade names of their respective holders.

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 07:09 PM
Thanks, OPP. :slobber:

Well, if Newegg's gonna have the nf4 SLI-DR in stock tomorrow, I'm buying one. Too bad I'm not going to have any cards to stuff in the slots for a few more weeks. :(

charlie
01-03-2005, 07:09 PM
oh yeah.....

only question left is, "Can a single GPU NF4 board with PCI-E take on a Neo2 with AGP and the nice-clocking XT Plat??"
Hmmmm.... probably NOT with the 800XT PCI-E.... but with the X850, we'll probably see the NF4 (specifically DFI) beat the single AGP Neo2's.....

:D

choseone214
01-03-2005, 07:12 PM
Combined with DFI’s CMOS Reloaded™ technology, both motherboards enable users to maximize performance potentials while enjoy the convenience of saving all the BIOS settings on the fly, renaming to customize CMOS settings, and recalling using a user-defined hot key. Hot key bios recall?? :slobber:

To provide rock solid stability, both nForce4 chipset based motherboards feature Japanese aluminum electrolytic capacitors, magnetic levitation north bridge cooling fan with fan speed control, and all aluminum heat sink on mosfets. The conductive polymer (electrolytic) aluminum solid capacitors provide high resistance to over-voltage and reverse voltage as compared with other capacitors, making them the ideal choice for overclocking and mission critical motherboards. To further provide maximum cooling on-board, both motherboards feature DFI’s first magnetic levitation chipset cooling fan that moves almost twice the air compared to standard chipset fans while producing extremely little noise. Thanks to magnetic levitation technology, the spinning fan blades “float” in a magnetic field and thereby dramatically reduces friction, wear and tear, and heat generation. All of these hardware implementations directly contribute to cooler, quieter and longer lasting motherboards. IMO thats how you sell me a motherboard. Forget all that other stuff I want to hear more stuff like this. :cool:

EQuito
01-03-2005, 07:12 PM
Thanks, OPP.I posted first... :stick:
How come I get a "if this is true..." but OPP gets a thank you? :rolleyes:
j/k :toast:

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 07:13 PM
Hahaha. Because OPP posted the press release, which gave me an instant hard-on. Thanks, EQuito. :toast:

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 07:15 PM
I posted first... :stick:
How come I get a "if this is true..." but OPP gets a thank you? :rolleyes:
j/k :toast:
Just covering your Back EQ, just covering your back:D

OPP

EQuito
01-03-2005, 07:16 PM
Hahaha. Because OPP posted the press release, which gave me an instant hard-on. Thanks, EQuito. :toast:LOL

He's the man! with ALL the contacts... :D
I didn't have the full press release so I thought to post what little I had.

Cheers!

EQuito
01-03-2005, 07:18 PM
Just covering your Back EQ, just covering your back:D

OPPyeah well..., don't get too close ok? :D

Happy New Year bud! :toast:

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 07:19 PM
LOL

He's the man! with ALL the contacts... :D
I didn't have the full press release so I thought to post what little I had.

Cheers!
Na, I just typed that up to see if you guys would go for it:D

J/K

OPP

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 07:20 PM
yeah well..., don't get too close ok? :D

Happy New Year bud! :toast:
Happy new year!!

Look at your location, (SoCal, USA) it looks like you copied and pasted it from my location:D

OPP

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 07:22 PM
OPP

Do you know of any 6800 Ultra cards out that are out and available from online retailers right now?

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 07:25 PM
OPP

Do you know of any 6800 Ultra cards out that are out and available from online retailers right now?
No I sure don't. I don't know what I'm gunna do about some 6800 cards. I might be able to talk one out of MSI,, then I'll only need one more:D What a pain!!

OPP

trans am
01-03-2005, 07:27 PM
No I sure don't. I don't know what I'm gunna do about some 6800 cards. I might be able to talk one out of MSI,, then I'll only need one more:D What a pain!!

OPP

I feel your pain. When is dfi going to release a plain single slot pci-e based on this?

OPPAINTER
01-03-2005, 07:30 PM
I feel your pain. When is dfi going to release a plain single slot pci-e based on this?
I thought that it was coming out with this board. So I have no clue, I don't know what's going on with these guys anymore:D

OPP

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 07:31 PM
No I sure don't. I don't know what I'm gunna do about some 6800 cards. I might be able to talk one out of MSI,, then I'll only need one more:D What a pain!!

OPP
Do you think the MSI units will be allergic to the cold? I'm currently planning a dual-head unit with chilly1.

Onepagebook
01-03-2005, 07:32 PM
No I sure don't. I don't know what I'm gunna do about some 6800 cards. I might be able to talk one out of MSI,, then I'll only need one more:D What a pain!!

OPP


Too bad, master, just asked msi, they don't have any ultra available.
6800 ultra won't be available for at least 2 months I would assume:(

trans am
01-03-2005, 07:32 PM
"Thanks to magnetic levitation technology, the spinning fan blades “float” in a magnetic field and thereby dramatically reduces friction, wear and tear, and heat generation. All of these hardware implementations directly contribute to cooler, quieter and longer lasting motherboards."

LOL, is it safe to put magnets right next to where your hard drives go?

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 07:33 PM
Too bad, master, just asked msi, they don't have any ultra available.
6800 ultra won't be available for at least 2 months I would assume:(
2 months?!?! Sheesh. I wonder if ATI will have their AMR solutions out by then. :confused:

trans am
01-03-2005, 07:51 PM
Has anyone successfully gotten the thermal throttling disabled on 6800 series yet? I saw a thread about using rivatuner to disable it, but I'm not sure if they actually got it to work. Anyone?

EQuito
01-03-2005, 08:03 PM
LOL, is it safe to put magnets right next to where your hard drives go?Not really but probably those magnets aren't powerful enough to cause any trouble and hopefully they've done some testing.

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 08:35 PM
I noticed this posted on DFI-Street (http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=41249#post41249):
we will have 3 boards for 939 with NV chipset

939 SLI
939 PCI-E
939 AGP

we are also looking into the VIA K8T890Pro 939 chipsets.
Yo, Alvin. It looks like they're gonna put out a VIA version. ;)

trans am
01-03-2005, 08:40 PM
I noticed this posted on DFI-Street (http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=41249#post41249):

Yo, Alvin. It looks like they're gonna put out a VIA version. ;)

I'm not going to hold my breath, but that is a good idea. XLI? is this going to make ati cards capable in dual gpu rendering on the dfi sli board(s)? http://tech-report.com/onearticle.x/7732

or is this basically the same thing as fake sli that OPB did on the msi nf4 ultra?

conrad.maranan
01-03-2005, 08:45 PM
Oh, man, oh, man. This stuff just makes me want to start speculating. On second thought, I better not. I'll let someone else do it for me. :)

Jessfm
01-03-2005, 09:26 PM
Oh, man, oh, man. This stuff just makes me want to start speculating. On second thought, I better not. I'll let someone else do it for me. :)
It would seem that DFI has been taken over by some master alien race and is slowly incorporating their technology into PC mobo's in a bid to take over the world, knowing full well that the enthusiast market is all high end power computers that will all eventualy join and become self conscious...... muhuhuhuhaaahahaha.

[that do you ? :D ]

iboomalot
01-03-2005, 10:02 PM
"Thanks to magnetic levitation technology, the spinning fan blades “float” in a magnetic field and thereby dramatically reduces friction, wear and tear, and heat generation. All of these hardware implementations directly contribute to cooler, quieter and longer lasting motherboards."

LOL, is it safe to put magnets right next to where your hard drives go?

Neodymium magnets are very strong but have localized magnetic fields unlike a std. ferrite type magnet.

example a neo magnet might throw a 2-3" radius field where as a ferrite of same strength might throw 2-3 feet radius field.

due to the small size of the fan and use of a narrow field design the HDD will not see any flux and thus be safe.

http://www.neo-magnet-emporium.co.uk/feats.htm

lght1
01-03-2005, 10:16 PM
Hi

So just to clarify, will there be a DFI NF3 939, and if so, approximately when?

Skip
01-03-2005, 10:18 PM
yea most pc speakers will have neodynium, which is why they specify that they are monitor safe.

i'm glad that they put a pci e x1 slot above the 2 PEG slots, all the other companies have been idiots about that.

reject
01-03-2005, 10:23 PM
they look really coll but they are the same in Opps pics
so the only difference is the package w/frontx and sli bridge?
exciting but waiting for AMR gets a little more use out of my current stuff wich i love
EDIT seems they both have the bridge so who would get the package crap? chaintech vnf oced way better then znf with the bundle

AH another difference the LP has 4 sata connectors. those are un needed as sata 2 connectors work with sata 1 drives/cables?

dropadrop
01-03-2005, 10:28 PM
Any comments on how loud that chipset fan is? Is it audible?

mrlobber
01-03-2005, 10:47 PM
Any comments on how loud that chipset fan is? Is it audible?

Who cares if you intend running 300 fsb on it? :cool:

STEvil
01-03-2005, 10:50 PM
I just sold my LP-UT and A64 2800+.. cant wait for this board to hit the market :D

Sgt_Strider
01-03-2005, 11:10 PM
Wow, less than 24 hours after I purchased my Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, this board is announced. Hopefully Asus will release better BIOS' so that I won't be forced to dump this board.

DevilsRejection
01-03-2005, 11:12 PM
Wow, less than 24 hours after I purchased my Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, this board is announced. Hopefully Asus will release better BIOS' so that I won't be forced to dump this board.

dude best advice i can give you, and so will everyone else on this board: if you are within 24 hours of purchasing it then either cancel your order if it hasn't shipped. or return it, <3 return policies!

dropadrop
01-03-2005, 11:45 PM
Who cares if you intend running 300 fsb on it? :cool:

I intend to manage with a very silent computer... I have managed to run an NF2 at 240fsb with a passive northbridge cooler, and expect to be able to run an A64 based computer high without creating more noise... :)

Anyone have user experience with the board and care to comment?

perry_78
01-03-2005, 11:49 PM
Its online! :banana::banana::banana::banana:! Love that bannana almost as much as the board! :D:D:D:D:D

IvanAndreevich
01-04-2005, 12:12 AM
Damn right it is!
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/product_search_result_us.jsp?CATEGORY_TYPE0B=%25&CATEGORY_NAME0B=Socket+939&SITE=US
3 varieties

Sgt_Strider
01-04-2005, 12:22 AM
dude best advice i can give you, and so will everyone else on this board: if you are within 24 hours of purchasing it then either cancel your order if it hasn't shipped. or return it, <3 return policies!

Unfortunately, that store has a no refund/no exchange policy :mad:.

eclypse
01-04-2005, 12:22 AM
Pretty sweet lookin boards!

Sgt_Strider
01-04-2005, 12:22 AM
Damn right it is!
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/product_search_result_us.jsp?CATEGORY_TYPE0B=%25&CATEGORY_NAME0B=Socket+939&SITE=US
3 varieties

What's the difference between the two SLI motherboards?

eclypse
01-04-2005, 12:23 AM
double raid.

conrad.maranan
01-04-2005, 12:24 AM
What's the difference between the two SLI motherboards?
Link (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=655298#post655298).

InvisGreenMan
01-04-2005, 12:30 AM
Four words...

Time to go 939!

STEvil
01-04-2005, 12:39 AM
Time to go PCI-E

Lucus Maximus
01-04-2005, 12:45 AM
Finally I can't wait! :banana: :banana:

Selling my 754 3200+ CH and one of my 3 mobo's next week :toast:

-Lucus :banana4:

perry_78
01-04-2005, 12:45 AM
Exactly

But according to the manual, the NF4 LANPARTY SLI-DR is the top range model. Howecome it isn't on the web yet? I only see the Lanparty NF4 SLI-D.

If i dosh out 300 bucks for a motherboard i want to have all that extra unnecessary stuff along with it! :)

Lucus Maximus
01-04-2005, 12:47 AM
Exactly

But according to the manual, the NF4 LANPARTY SLI-DR is the top range model. Howecome it isn't on the web yet? I only see the Lanparty NF4 SLI-D.

If i dosh out 300 bucks for a motherboard i want to have all that extra unnecessary stuff along with it! :)

Linky for you
LANPARTY NF4 SLI-DR (http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_spec_details_r_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=3449&CATEGORY_TYPE=LP&SITE=US)

-Lucus :)

ominae
01-04-2005, 01:07 AM
Heyas,

For those who are lucky enough to have the board, is it possible to judge whether an Thermalright XP-120/XP-90 will fit on them nicely? :D

charlie
01-04-2005, 02:01 AM
any chance of seeing the board later today at e-tailers???

Dirt
01-04-2005, 02:03 AM
Ohh this is so sweet, swedish supplyers seem to have the card kinda far away :(

perry_78
01-04-2005, 02:28 AM
I hope some danish retailers or perhaps overclockers.co.uk get it in their sortiment soon :)

RaptorRaider
01-04-2005, 03:01 AM
1 24-pin ATX power connector
1 4-pin ATX 12V power connector
2 4-pin 5V/12V power connectors (FDD-type and HDD type)

FDD and HDD will be getting power from the motherboard? :confused:
Looks like another great motherboard for both casemodders and overclockers from DFI. :toast:

H2OGun
01-04-2005, 03:25 AM
Some Update: not all the vdimm is usable according to BIOS. It maxed out at around 3.2v even when it was set to 4.0v. Unlike Asus A8N, the board managed to run my GSkill RAM up to DDR670 1M SuperPI benchable. Of course, it was 1T setting. Using sample board of MSI Neo4 Diamond, the same RAM maxed out at DDR650. No pics and screenies yet, Sorry!!

Similar to Asus A8N, you have to plug HDD-type power connector to the board to run SLI cards but there is also an additional connector which is using a floppy power connector. I don't know what this is for. Maybe need to plug in this to get 4v vdimm? The strange thing is that when we plug in the floppy power connector to the board, the vdimm is maxed out at 2.5v :confused:

Dirt
01-04-2005, 03:28 AM
Some Update: not all the vdimm is usable according to BIOS. It maxed out at around 3.2v even when it was set to 4.0v. Unlike Asus A8N, the board managed to run my GSkill RAM up to DDR670 1M SuperPI benchable. Of course, it was 1T setting. Using sample board of MSI Neo4 Diamond, the same RAM maxed out at DDR650. No pics and screenies yet, Sorry!!

Similar to Asus A8N, you have to plug HDD-type power connector to the board to run SLI cards but there is also an additional connector which is using a floppy power connector. I don't know what this is for. Maybe need to plug in this to get 4v vdimm? The strange thing is that when we plug in the floppy power connector to the board, the vdimm is maxed out at 2.5v :confused:

Huuu?? Makes no sense. The manual must say something about how it´s intended??

nOx34
01-04-2005, 03:28 AM
So is there any nForce4 mobo that clocks AND has AGP ? I still have a 9800Pro ;) !

Dirt
01-04-2005, 03:30 AM
So is there any nForce4 mobo that clocks AND has AGP ? I still have a 9800Pro ;) !

?? Nope this mobo is PCI-E only.