DFI S939 soon on web! [Archive] - Page 2

mrlobber

01-04-2005, 03:44 AM

Some Update: not all the vdimm is usable according to BIOS. It maxed out at around 3.2v even when it was set to 4.0v.

That's it. Is the dream of true 4.0Vdimm over? It seems it still depends on the power of your 3.3v rail... :brick: Can you adjust your PSU line voltages to confirm this?

perry_78

01-04-2005, 03:56 AM

H0Gun, can you try using a 20pin PSU and see if it works? Otherwise i looks like i'll have to bust out more cash for a OCZ Powerstream 420W :(

My Antec Truepower 430W is doing a good job untill now :)

Kobalt

01-04-2005, 04:01 AM

Looks like a great board(s). Im sure the vdimm issue will get solved.

Need...to...sell...more.... pc's.... need....socket.....939....

Dirt

01-04-2005, 05:23 AM

I hope some danish retailers or perhaps overclockers.co.uk get it in their sortiment soon :)

I have a confirmation that Swedish distributors on DFI´s list will get cards in store in two weeks. Cards will "depart" from DFI in one week.

Still no price yet though.

perry_78

01-04-2005, 05:28 AM

Hey dirt, which sweedish shop is that? Denmark seems to have forsaken DFI, and no one knows anything about it apart from DatatelPartner. The next option is oc-wear.de, but thats germany and RMA would be a fortune :(

Sweeden is closer :)

Dirt

01-04-2005, 05:32 AM

http://www.asbis.se/ not on their site yet though. Got confirmation on phone.

perry_78

01-04-2005, 05:43 AM

Ok nice. I wrote to the danish retailers, hope to get a reply soon. Considering that the 925X-T2 costs 1800DKK, and has a MSRP @ $200, wtf is the danish price going to be? 2500DKK? Thats about $350, and about $400

Scary....

Dirt

01-04-2005, 05:46 AM

Thats just to much. According to comparations with listprices in the US on MSI Diamond a 320$ will be about 2200SEK. So applied to the DFI this will be: 299$ = 2000SEK

perry_78

01-04-2005, 05:49 AM

ok, sounds much better. DFI motherboards are heavily overpriced in DK, the sweedish shop is cheaper, not taking into account that its in SEK! :D

Sephir0th

01-04-2005, 06:13 AM

this is gonna be even more of a frustrating wait now, waiting for the boards to hit aussie shores while the rest of you bastards are playing with them :p:

and heres some :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: for good measure.

perry_78

01-04-2005, 06:17 AM

"Den danske distributør har valgt ikke at tage den hjem i første omgang, så jeg ved ikke hvornår den lander i Danmark."

In other words, the danish distributor decided to pass on this board in the first round, waiting untill the 2nd batch. WTF?! :mad: :mad:

Im buying from asbis.se in that case or overclockers.co.uk

No way im waiting for those "#¤¤#¤&!"¤!#"¤@£@£ danes to get it in stock in April. This is the problem with living in a foreign country. You do not always understand the mentality and often stupidity of the nation. :stick:

eva2000

01-04-2005, 06:21 AM

That's it. Is the dream of true 4.0Vdimm over? It seems it still depends on the power of your 3.3v rail... :brick: Can you adjust your PSU line voltages to confirm this?
while nice... it would be much easier if they could derrive vdimm via 5V rail! hopefully it's just bios issue ?/

Dirt

01-04-2005, 06:30 AM

Juliette: Så går det när man bor i ett U land ;)

perry_78

01-04-2005, 06:34 AM

Dirt: Lol det har du ret i i nogle tilfælde. Det eneste der holder mig tilbage er skolen og arbejde :). Måske også at mit far har arbejdede her i knap 16 år med godt løn :toast: Ellers i tjekkiet : DFI? Huh? Is that some new drug? :banana4: :rolleyes:

Its still crazy, #1 board, and the distributor decides to pass on it :( The distributor obviously hasnt had his head screwed on the right way :)

Dirt

01-04-2005, 06:38 AM

Ellers i tjekkiet : DFI? Wooo... Didint get that part mate :D Those damn danish people cant talk or write :Lol: ;)

Distributor have no ideá what he´ll loose in profit on that one..

trans am

01-04-2005, 06:39 AM

while nice... it would be much easier if they could derrive vdimm via 5V rail! hopefully it's just bios issue ?/

Opp already said earlier in the thread said Wu made vdimm off the the 5 rail this time around, so either he's wrong, or there is something missing?

perry_78

01-04-2005, 06:52 AM

I meant that in Czech Republic no one has heard of DFI. I'm not danish, so i dont take that as an insult :)

OT - I think my english to be on a rather reasonable level, completed my English O-Level mock exams with 85%... So no question there :stick:

Dirt

01-04-2005, 06:59 AM

I meant that in Czech Republic no one has heard of DFI. I'm not danish, so i dont take that as an insult :)

Damn :p: Guess you understand me then ;) The danish language is just a sound.... an annoying one :banana:

Just ment that dansish is completely impossible to understand both in talk and writing. No offence to you mate, your english is great :toast: Just trying to be a bit funny apparently without success :p:

sUpervizer'

01-04-2005, 07:13 AM

trans am

01-04-2005, 07:14 AM

Damn :p: Guess you understand me then ;) The danish language is just a sound.... an annoying one :banana:

Just ment that dansish is completely impossible to understand both in talk and writing. No offence to you mate, your english is great :toast: Just trying to be a bit funny apparently without success :p:

can you guys pm each other if you are going to talk about each other's language?
I'm really not interested. :off:

perry_78

01-04-2005, 07:15 AM

I dont get it, the nForce 4 Ultra-D has 2 x16 Slots ?!
its SLI or Ultra or its a mistake in thier website?

Ultra-D (http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/LP%20UT%20nF4%20Ultra-D.jpg)
SLI-D (http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/LP%20UT%20nF4%20SLI-D.jpg)
SLI-DR (http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/LP%20nF4%20%20SLI-DR.jpg)

Yeah, according to the website it does. So much for "Ultra" :)

trans am, sorry for OT. :(

trans am

01-04-2005, 07:17 AM

I dont get it, the nForce 4 Ultra-D has 2 x16 Slots ?!
its SLI or Ultra or its a mistake in thier website?

Ultra-D (http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/LP%20UT%20nF4%20Ultra-D.jpg)
SLI-D (http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/LP%20UT%20nF4%20SLI-D.jpg)
SLI-DR (http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/LP%20nF4%20%20SLI-DR.jpg)

Yeah, I think you can still use the sli like Opb did with the regular msi Nf4 ultra board, except you have a full x16 slot so it might work slightly better. I am wondering if the official sli versions are going to be worth the price, if the plain one has 2 x16 slots already?

Dirt

01-04-2005, 07:19 AM

Sorry, my bad :(

_______________________

Whats this thing with nVidia offering 20x PCI-E anyway is it for the future or what??

mrlobber

01-04-2005, 07:22 AM

Opp already said earlier in the thread said Wu made vdimm off the the 5 rail this time around, so either he's wrong, or there is something missing?

He actually didn't say it, he said he thinks that Oskar designed it that way (as this would be logical from overclockers point of view).

A little history of the NF3 250.:D
Oskar did not design that mobo. He got it and had to fix it from what he had there already to work with.
The NF4 on the other hand was made from scatch so to get 4V on the mem of course he would use the 5V.

OPP

trans am

01-04-2005, 07:29 AM

He actually didn't say it, he said he thinks that Oskar designed it that way (as this would be logical from overclockers point of view).

And where does he say "thinks?"
listen to yourself man.

perry_78

01-04-2005, 07:32 AM

"of course he would use the 5V"

Thats an assumption, and an assumption is roughly equivalent to a guess :)

xpr-k

01-04-2005, 07:40 AM

http://www.ninjalane.com/radio.aspx

radio (shoutcast) interview with DFI . 250 spots open . Dunno when though all these timezones got me confused .

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 07:48 AM

And where does he say "thinks?"
listen to yourself man.
It's an assumption, to get 4V anybody in their right mine would use a 5V source. How do you get 4 volts from a 3.3V line without having to mickymouse the thing:D

OPP

Dirt

01-04-2005, 07:51 AM

It's an assumption, to get 4V anybody in their right mine would use a 5V source. How do you get 4 volts from a 3.3V line without having to mickymouse the thing:D

OPP

To mickymouse something, thats a new one :banana:

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 07:52 AM

To mickymouse something, thats a new one :banana:
Actually thats an old phrase, it's been around for a while now:D

OPP

trans am

01-04-2005, 07:56 AM

It's an assumption, to get 4V anybody in their right mine would use a 5V source. How do you get 4 volts from a 3.3V line without having to mickymouse the thing:D

OPP

True, but the modded bios on the nf3 board went up to 4vdimm and that was off the 3.3 rail. //////// I am going to shut up and stop speculating. There is no point if we don't even have a board to play with. Sorry everyone. I'm done until someone who actually knows what they are doing has one. Enough is enough.

perry_78

01-04-2005, 07:57 AM

http://www.ninjalane.com/radio.aspx

radio (shoutcast) interview with DFI . 250 spots open . Dunno when though all these timezones got me confused .

Connected :)

12,00 MST should be "I have no clue"

Can anyone record this? I sold my setup hoping to get first pick on the DFI :D

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 08:08 AM

True, but the modded bios on the nf3 board went up to 4vdimm and that was off the 3.3 rail. //////// I am going to shut up and stop speculating. There is no point if we don't even have a board to play with. Sorry everyone. I'm done until someone who actually knows what they are doing has one. Enough is enough.
Here is a e-mail from 5 months ago when I was talking to Oskar about the 754 mobo. As you can see he talks about useing the the 5V.
But, on a board made from scratch it sounds like he would want to use it.

----------------------
Current VDIMM is converted directly through a MOSFET from ATX power 3.3V , after a voltage drop caused by the MOSFET , the highest possible VDIMM is 3.15~3.25V(Depend on Power ATX 3.3V) ...
Although I want to change the VDIMM converting source from 3.3V to 5V , it's impossible based on current board layout and placement ...
----------------------

OPP

xpr-k

01-04-2005, 08:11 AM

Connected :)

12,00 MST should be "I have no clue"

Can anyone record this? I sold my setup hoping to get first pick on the DFI :D

I'm guessin the cast will start @ 18.00 , time here now is 17.23 . And yes i'll record it ;] .

Dirt

01-04-2005, 08:13 AM

I'm guessin the cast will start @ 18.00 , time here now is 17.23 . And yes i'll record it ;] .

Please upload if possible.

xpr-k

01-04-2005, 08:16 AM

Please upload if possible.

I'll try, never recorded a cast before so i'm a bit clueless as to how big these things get . If it is possible i'll upload, i'm somewhat constricted by my webspace + 30day up/download limit .

lght1

01-04-2005, 08:54 AM

Hi

So, will there be a DFI NF3 939, and if so, approximately when?

charlie

01-04-2005, 08:56 AM

Who want's to bet these things will be going for $400+ on eBay??

EQuito

01-04-2005, 08:57 AM

Damn! I'm not getting email notifications from this thread. Now I have to go back two pages and start reading... :(

Anybody else with the same problem?

trans am

01-04-2005, 09:02 AM

vivian is talking right now. on the radio link. I'm recording it.

xpr-k

01-04-2005, 09:11 AM

vivian is talking right now. on the radio link. I'm recording it.

thank god cause after my promise i managed to let computer crash 5 seconds into the show and aparantly i cant record streams now without crashing my winamp so i'm out .

update: from what ive heard from the remainder of the show it wasnt really worth it . There wasnt mentioned anything that is not in the press release .

trans am

01-04-2005, 09:18 AM

thank god cause after my promise i managed to let computer crash 5 seconds into the show and aparantly i cant record streams now without crashing my winamp so i'm out .

update: from what ive heard from the remainder of the show it wasnt really worth it . There wasnt mentioned anything that is not in the press release .

This was aweful. Who was the moron asking the questions? He asked all the wrong questions. no personality and didn't seem prepared. I'n not even going to bother with the sound file, it's not even worth saving. That Vivian on the other hand, She is my dream girl. Sounds kinda sexy too. Maybe that's why he couldn't ask the right questions? He was distracted by her sexyness?

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 09:36 AM

That Vivian on the other hand, She is my dream girl. Sounds kinda sexy too. Maybe that's why he couldn't ask the right questions? He was distracted by her sexyness?

I'll be meeting with Vivian this Thursday in Vegas. I'll report back to you folks on her "sexyness",,maybe:D

OPP

Kobalt

01-04-2005, 09:44 AM

HAHA if she is reading this...it would be hilarious. "So opp, am i as sexy as you thought" *sexy music comes on...*

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 09:46 AM

HAHA if she is reading this...it would be hilarious. "So opp, am i as sexy as you thought" *sexy music comes on...*
I'm sure she is reading this, I sent her TransAm's post:D

OPP

Kobalt

01-04-2005, 09:52 AM

lol...shes going to think we are a bunch of pervs

IvanAndreevich

01-04-2005, 09:53 AM

The fan they added is supposed to be quiet - "magnetic flow" or something along those lines? That's great.

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 10:07 AM

lol...shes going to think we are a bunch of pervs
I don't know.
I would think she'd take it as a compliment.

OPP

perry_78

01-04-2005, 10:19 AM

I don't know.
I would think she'd take it as a compliment.

OPP

LOL! Give her our compliments and tell her to post her pics in this thread, as it deals with DFI and DFI "merchandise" :D

If she doesnt think we're pervs yet then she will now.

And now the million dollar question..... Am i talking about the board or sweet vivian? :toast:

NiCKE^

01-04-2005, 10:26 AM

Hehe, yeah got question if she is sexy. OPP you gotta bring your digicam with you on your meeting with her :D

IvanAndreevich

01-04-2005, 10:27 AM

Actually, I was quite impressed. When I heard she's from PR I was expecting pure PR bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:. However, she gave some interesting details.

Just 1 thing that got me smiling was when she mentioned "electrolyte" caps. However, if I see corectly, the caps she was referring to are actually without electrolyte, like the ones on ATi cards.

Well hell, at least DFI PR people know what they are talking about, unlike their counterparts from other companies who just BS around.

Zueda

01-04-2005, 10:27 AM

I'll be meeting with Vivian this Thursday in Vegas. I'll report back to you folks on her "sexyness",,maybe:D

OPP
Angry_games over at dfi-street has pics of her on his personal site... she is very fine looking. :slobber:

trans am

01-04-2005, 10:29 AM

ScottRempel

01-04-2005, 10:36 AM

I just registered to say :slobber:

(mobo and/or Vivian ;) )

Jessfm

01-04-2005, 10:37 AM

Jessfm

01-04-2005, 10:38 AM

I just registered to say :slobber:

(mobo and/or Vivian ;) )

welcome to xtreme
:toast:

perry_78

01-04-2005, 10:38 AM

Listening to VIvian talk about sli and overclocking with that beautiful voice really did something to me. Damn, I just got engaged too. :wiggle: Sorry Vivie, However, every time I press the power button to my DFI board, and that magnetic fan on the northbridge strts up, I will remember that soothing soft voice of yours that blows like a soft wind on a cool summer night..

Now that is pervy :)

Ah, she's not that great. I prefer the super-natural likes of Adriana Lima or Britanny Murhpy, and of course that hot ass girl with a big boyfriend down by the pool :D

This thread is becoming OT only it seems, as the mobo has officially been released :)

trans am

01-04-2005, 10:49 AM

Now that is pervy :)

Ah, she's not that great. I prefer the super-natural likes of Adriana Lima or Britanny Murhpy, and of course that hot ass girl with a big boyfriend down by the pool :D

This thread is becoming OT only it seems, as the mobo has officially been released :)

LOL. no, pervy would be "He put his Sledgehammer into her socket and rubbed thermal paste all over her heatspreader."

back on topic.

If I was giving the interview,
I would have asked:

-what is dfi going to do if you want to run 2 ati cards in dual gfx rendering?
-what is xli and how is it any different from fake sli that opb did with the MSI nf4 ultra?
-is the vdimm on the 5v or 3.3v rail?
-Does dfi plan to use the ati xpress 200 or VIA k8t890 pro chipset in the near future?
-Why wasn't a plain vanilla nf4 ultra released before the sli boards?
-Karajan sound? Is there any advantage to having this over integrated sound other than to minimize sound interference? How does it compare to audigy2zs or nvidia sound storm or VIA Envy24?

Black Angel

01-04-2005, 10:50 AM

Hallo #0 we OC.dk´s are all frends i think ...

that board look damm nice.. i have to say but what wil the price be... i think its going to be expensive...

IvanAndreevich

01-04-2005, 10:51 AM

http://www.angrygames.com/DFI_Crew.htm <- DFI people are cool

>>is the vdimm on the 5v or 3.3v rail?
Vivian said up to 4V so it has to be off the 5V rail.

>>Why wasn't a plain vanilla nf4 ultra released before the sli boards?
Why would it be? Everything is the same on it, but the chipset.

eclypse

01-04-2005, 10:59 AM

Yup, Vivian's a HOTTIE! lol.. She looks outa place with those guys though. Chicks with computer know how are off the chart!

Dynasty

01-04-2005, 11:02 AM

Now the LP UT nF4 Ultra-D is non sli & supports 2-PCI Express x16 slots.
Could two ati's be used on this board ?

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 11:04 AM

Yea she is a cutie:)
She looks young also.

OPP

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22071&stc=1

perry_78

01-04-2005, 11:05 AM

Now the LP UT nF4 Ultra-D is non sli & supports 2-PCI Express x16 slots.
Could two ati's be used on this board ?

I think thats only possible on the KT890 chipset so far :( :stick:

Dynasty

01-04-2005, 11:06 AM

ATI gets short changed again :p:

chr

01-04-2005, 11:15 AM

anyone have an idea of how the onboard karajan sound compares with audigy2's and other current sound cards on the market? and yes, vivian = cute

conrad.maranan

01-04-2005, 11:17 AM

LOL. no, pervy would be "He put his Sledgehammer into her socket and rubbed thermal paste all over her heatspreader."
:lol: How in the world do you come up with this stuff, man? :lol:

Nube

01-04-2005, 11:19 AM

If Vivien was cooled with Liquid Nitrogen, she would still be soo hot

InvisGreenMan

01-04-2005, 11:30 AM

anyone have an idea of how the onboard karajan sound compares with audigy2's and other current sound cards on the market?

I would like to know this too.

xgman

01-04-2005, 11:36 AM

I'll be meeting with Vivian this Thursday in Vegas. I'll report back to you folks on her "sexyness",,maybe:D

OPP

DFI USA sales thought both versions of the boards would ship to resellers next week here. See if she can confirm this.

charlie

01-04-2005, 12:11 PM

check newegg/zipzoomfly/gameve every morning at 5am for the next 2 weeks

:banana:

xgman

01-04-2005, 12:14 PM

hmmm it looks like the extra sata ports from the nvidia ones are being powered by the silicon image 3114 chipset. Interesting as after the poor write performance this chipset exhibited on the LPB board they are still going to use it. They swore they would never use the chipset again as it was a 'mistake' they didn't do their homework first on the performance over the 3112 which was faster.

It should be the 3124 sata-2-300 chipset that some other NF4 boards are using.

Alexandrus

01-04-2005, 12:26 PM

Yea she is a cutie:)
She looks young also.

OPP

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22071&stc=1
OPP, move aside buddy, you're too old for her :D
And she is too cute for you as well :p
Just kidding, don't start bashing me.

Maybe I can use my charms on her to get a free board, hmm :D

Speaking about the board, it's quite nice, too bad the layout isn't all that nice, but the features are awesome. Gimme nF4 Ultra-D and I'm happy for at least 6 months :)

perry_78

01-04-2005, 12:26 PM

check newegg/zipzoomfly/gameve every morning at 5am for the next 2 weeks

:banana:

In my case oc-wear.de/overclockers.co.uk/asbis.se :) I see that you too are eager to get that board no matter what the cost :toast:

NiCKE^

01-04-2005, 12:39 PM

I want the board baaad, and the girl :P

FallenAngel

01-04-2005, 12:40 PM

Now the LP UT nF4 Ultra-D is non sli & supports 2-PCI Express x16 slots.
Could two ati's be used on this board ?
I think thats only possible on the KT890 chipset so far :( :stick:
If this is true why they put 2x PEG x16 in the DFI board, ...to be a fake SLI or something? Don't understand.
Can someone enlight me please.

I want the board baaad, and the girl :P
I only want the board

ante_ante

01-04-2005, 12:44 PM

Does this mobo support PCI & PCI-E locks?

IvanAndreevich

01-04-2005, 12:49 PM

Turbodream
Are you kidding? OF COURSE IT DOES

This board's layout is awesome. Notice the CPU power is between the ATX connector and the CPU -> 1st time I see this. Very logical.

trans am

01-04-2005, 01:10 PM

Ok, I was able to get Pc ice in there. This is a special tribute to the dfi team from XS for finally bringing a 939 board to the market that doesn't suck.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22077

xgman

01-04-2005, 01:14 PM

check newegg/zipzoomfly/gameve every morning at 5am for the next 2 weeks

:banana:

you mean zipzoombendover :D

Doumz

01-04-2005, 01:19 PM

The Sli version can run the pci-e un 16 or 8-8

The Ultra version can only run in 16-2

on the Ultra version,Sli still possible,but second card may lack bandwidth

As for ati support,no idea until someone test it i think

Dissolved

01-04-2005, 01:21 PM

you guys are horrible. she probly will hold the mobos another month because of all this random prev talk.

mrlobber

01-04-2005, 01:26 PM

quicksilverXP

01-04-2005, 01:38 PM

wow... she is pretty good-looking.

I don't think SLI will work on ATI cards at all on any Nforce4 chipset. And if it did, it probably wouldn't well whatsoever... we should just wait until AMR.

Zebo

01-04-2005, 01:42 PM

Now the question is, which boards are ye getting?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22020

Well thats cool they got so much options but what does SiL3114 and FrontX mean?

trans am

01-04-2005, 01:45 PM

sil3114 is a silicon image raid controller.

cantankerous

01-04-2005, 01:46 PM

p4z1f1st

01-04-2005, 02:05 PM

Sil 3114 is the chipset used for the second set of 4 SATA ports. Silicon Image 3114 is the model.

FrontX is the peripheral that comes with the motherboard. It is a 5.25" front panel with audio, usb and firewire connectors.

man, be honest - who of you all guys need:

1. Dual-RAID
2. 8 (EIGHT!!!) sATA-ports? ;)

so, just kick the Lanparty nF4-SLI DR and the Lanparty-UT nF4-SLI DR

Dirt

01-04-2005, 02:10 PM

man, be honest - who of you all guys need:

1. Dual-RAID
2. 8 (EIGHT!!!) sATA-ports? ;)

so, just kick the Lanparty nF4-SLI DR and the Lanparty-UT nF4-SLI DR

Agree that eight is a bit to much for the normal user. But hey.. SATA DVD´s is on the move so with 3disks and one optic thats four. Hmmmm

RAINFIRE

01-04-2005, 02:19 PM

you guys are horrible. she probly will hold the mobos another month because of all this random prev talk.

We like our women HOT and our motherboards HOTTER . . . or vice versa . . . some other such B.S. . . is it Beer-30 yet? :toast: Hehehe - she's Hot like the mobo is:)

Hahahaha - I think she's Hotter BECAUSE of the the Mobo's :p:

Now back to my list on where to buy these jewel motherboards at . . .

apu673

01-04-2005, 02:27 PM

Wow u guys are kinda sad, heh, does anyone know if DFI's nf4 ulta will be priced the same as MSI neo4 and gigabyte's nf4, which are considered better nf4 ultra brands?

p4z1f1st

01-04-2005, 02:36 PM

Agree that eight is a bit to much for the normal user. But hey.. SATA DVD´s is on the move so with 3disks and one optic thats four. Hmmmm

right - i hope they'll come in the next 3years :rolleyes:

i hate it to w8 for them for 2years.....the damn IDE-cables suck.....and i love the hot-plugin-feature of sATA :)

trans am

01-04-2005, 02:39 PM

right - i hope they'll come in the next 3years :rolleyes:

i hate it to w8 for them for 2years.....the damn IDE-cables suck.....and i love the hot-plugin-feature of sATA :)

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-131-328&depa=0

Zebo

01-04-2005, 02:44 PM

Sil 3114 is the chipset used for the second set of 4 SATA ports. Silicon Image 3114 is the model.

FrontX is the peripheral that comes with the motherboard. It is a 5.25" front panel with audio, usb and firewire connectors.
Thanks guys SLi-D for me then ..I don't need all those ports I bet most won't either...hope that knocks a few bucks off.. $299 wowzers:)

Dirt

01-04-2005, 02:47 PM

right - i hope they'll come in the next 3years :rolleyes:

i hate it to w8 for them for 2years.....the damn IDE-cables suck.....and i love the hot-plugin-feature of sATA :)

Well they are already here... http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=557&cid=4

p4z1f1st

01-04-2005, 02:52 PM

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-131-328&depa=0

yeah, sure there are A FEW....but i want it from MY BRANDS :D

(like a sATA Toshiba SD-M1612 or a Pioneer DVR-108 @ sATA).....

there aren't masses on sATA - that i mean.....

Dirt

01-04-2005, 02:57 PM

yeah, sure there are A FEW....but i want it from MY BRANDS :D

HEHE thats an other thing :D Your brands suck thats why you have to wait for 2years :p:

Onepagebook

01-04-2005, 03:01 PM

I don't know.
I would think she'd take it as a compliment.

OPP

Give me her # I can speak Chinese or Taiwanese to her.:D

OPB

Dirt

01-04-2005, 03:32 PM

Does anyone have a clue if a Dangerden Z-chip NB cooler will fit this card (The DFI nF4) when you use a nVidia 6800 card? Seems a bit tight :(

eva2000

01-04-2005, 03:33 PM

Give me her # I can speak Chinese or Taiwanese to her.:D

OPB
LOL, her number and email addy is in the official press release IIRC

Onepagebook

01-04-2005, 03:33 PM

Does anyone have a clue if a Dangerden Z-chip NB cooler will fit this card when you use a nVidia 6800 card?

no it won't!I am 100% positive!

edit: a bit confused here.

Dirt

01-04-2005, 03:35 PM

no it won't!I am 100% positive!

:cussing: What the... How to watercool the NB then?!?!

EDIT: "you will need the "p4" block to fit the Diag. holes"

What is diag. ?? Do I need the P4 version of Z-chip??

Onepagebook

01-04-2005, 03:41 PM

:cussing: What the... How to watercool the NB then?!?!

EDIT: "you will need the "p4" block to fit the Diag. holes" What??

Do I need the P4 version of Z-chip??

oh sorry, a bit misunderstanding..."I thought you say will fit this card"...
I thought you say you wanna watercool the 6800 card.

But I still don't think it 's gonna work though. :(

Dirt

01-04-2005, 03:44 PM

oh sorry, a bit misunderstanding...
I thought you say you wanna watercool the 6800 card.

But I still don't think it 's gonna work though. :(

Lol no i have a NV68 for that purpouse :p: No i agree think it will be to little space between the 6800card and the nipples of the Z-chipp.

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 03:45 PM

:cussing: What the... How to watercool the NB then?!?!

EDIT: "you will need the "p4" block to fit the Diag. holes"

What is diag. ?? Do I need the P4 version of Z-chip??
Get a hold of an old Swiftech MCW40 block, very low profile.

OPP

Dirt

01-04-2005, 03:46 PM

Get a hold of an old Swiftech MCW40 block, very low profile.

OPP

It only comes with 3/8" right?? I use 1/2"

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 03:49 PM

It only comes with 3/8" right?? I use 1/2"
Yep, 3/8 only. If your just useing the water loop for the NB then 3/8 is ok.

OPP

idleuser

01-04-2005, 03:50 PM

isn't the mcw40 a waterblock? how would you use that for a chipset waterblock?

Onepagebook

01-04-2005, 03:50 PM

Get a hold of an old Swiftech MCW40 block, very low profile.

OPP

just wondering bud,
have you ever bothered with Chipset watercooling? :confused:

Thanks

OPB

Dirt

01-04-2005, 03:51 PM

Yep, 3/8 only. If your just useing the water loop for the NB then 3/8 is ok.

OPP

Im running a full watercooled 1/2" system if thats what you meant.

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 03:52 PM

just wondering bud,
have you ever bothered with Chipset watercooling? :confused:

Thanks

OPB
No,
When I put a water block on the chipset I always use a pelt. Straight water just doesn't pack enough of a punch.

OPP

Kobalt

01-04-2005, 03:52 PM

isnt NB watercooling kind of ....pointless :stick:

Onepagebook

01-04-2005, 03:53 PM

No,
When I put a water block on the chipset I always use a pelt. Straight water just doesn't pack enough of a punch.

OPP

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Dirt

01-04-2005, 03:54 PM

isnt NB watercooling kind of ....pointless :stick:

Silence my friend ;)

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 03:56 PM

isnt NB watercooling kind of ....pointless :stick:
Depends, if for example your chipset has a memory controller in it, Cooling helps a lot.

Also, when you have Chipset voltage options, higher voltage more heat, cooling will help to stablize it some.

OPP

Dirt

01-04-2005, 03:58 PM

Depends, if for example your chipset has a memory controller in it, Cooling helps a lot.

OPP

A64 have that internaly in the CPU right??

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 04:00 PM

A64 have that internaly in the CPU right??
Yes

OPP

Dirt

01-04-2005, 04:04 PM

Yes

OPP

Maybe watercooling the NB wount be the No:1 priority on this card then. But it would be sweet :)

EDIT: This seems kinda low profile too.

http://www.overclockers.se/catalog/images/new/ttchipset_black.jpg

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 04:19 PM

I can tell you this much, on this Asus SLI and MSI neo4 I have here the chipset gets pretty warm. Cooling it wouldn't hurt.

OPP

FallenAngel

01-04-2005, 04:22 PM

mY nb sometimes is too damn hot, I was just playing Underground 2 and is yet at 60°C

Dirt

01-04-2005, 04:29 PM

Well it is to be watercooled in other words. Well I´ll fix it in some way. Lets just hope that the nF4 chip have an more "eaven" surface than the nF2.

Brum Man

01-04-2005, 04:29 PM

Just wondering, if I were to SLI two 6800's, would there be enough room to water cool both of them if I were to use a Silverpop Fusion, but use the SL instead of the HL (the SL being the low profile of the two, as seen )here (http://www.frozenmods.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=45), it's 19mm high).

Sorry for the OT, but thought I may as well ask while we were on the watercooling topic.

Dirt

01-04-2005, 04:31 PM

Brum Man: Think that will be ok.

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 04:34 PM

Thats a nice looking block.

OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22092&stc=1

trans am

01-04-2005, 04:36 PM

Is that the low profile version? My friend Jinu has that block on his 6800gt. It is really heavy and well made! He has the big sucker. 2 of these for sli would be perfect.

Zebo

01-04-2005, 04:36 PM

I can tell you this much, on this Asus SLI and MSI neo4 I have here the chipset gets pretty warm. Cooling it wouldn't hurt.

OPP

I cut my stock retail A64 HS in half and glued it to NB. Ice cold and passive quietness.

But I'm running 300Mhz on NF3 Epox..YMMV

http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~smanning/cut.jpg

Dirt

01-04-2005, 04:37 PM

Thats a nice looking block.

OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22092&stc=1

Well is it as good as it looks?? If it just about the looks i think that "sticker" on the top looks a bit Kmart :)

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 04:38 PM

Is that the low profile version? My friend Jinu has that block on his 6800gt. It is really heavy and well made! He has the big sucker. 2 of these for sli would be perfect.
Insulate them and run -70c liquid through them. There's your Number 1 in 3Dmark:D

OPP

trans am

01-04-2005, 04:41 PM

Well is it as good as it looks?? If it just about the looks i think that "sticker" on the top looks a bit Kmart :)

This is no kmart block. THis is a High-quality Australian block. I think this was designed by Animal Planet Celebrity Steve Irwin he's really into overclocking. http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/crochunter/crochunter.html

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 04:46 PM

Are you seriuos, the Croc Hunter is into overclocking? :D
Send a e-mail and have him join XS, he's a funny guy.

OPP

Dirt

01-04-2005, 04:49 PM

This is no kmart block. THis is a High-quality Australian block. I think this was designed by Animal Planet Celebrity Steve Irwin he's really into overclocking. http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/crochunter/crochunter.html

Kmart = unexpensive (it was a metafor)

If Steve Irwin is in to overclocking I think that must be overclocking of him self then :p: Pretty successful in that...

Onepagebook

01-04-2005, 05:10 PM

Thats a nice looking block.

OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22092&stc=1

also,this new revision Maze 4 not bad though
They said it can fit all the 6800 and ati cards :D

http://www.dangerden.com/images/maze4_gpu/new_tops/gpuboth_600w.gif

http://www.dangerden.com/images/maze4_gpu/new_tops/base_800w.gif

Brum Man

01-04-2005, 05:17 PM

Well is it as good as it looks?? If it just about the looks i think that "sticker" on the top looks a bit Kmart :) That is no K-mart jobbie, it's one of the best GPU coolers around.

Yeh that is the slim profile one

It's 9.5 mm smaller than the fusion HL, but I'm not sure on the difference in the performane.

And it also can fit both Nvidia and ATI cards.

The new Maze 4 block looks nice thought, is it out yet?

Sephir0th

01-04-2005, 05:34 PM

This is no kmart block. THis is a High-quality Australian block. I think this was designed by Animal Planet Celebrity Steve Irwin he's really into overclocking. http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/crochunter/crochunter.html

right.... try silverprop. obviously steve irwin gives you guys a chance to make fun of us aussies :mad: i'l keep my comments to myself...

now to decide if its actually worth selling off my bh-5 for some tccd.. though i dont think il be running 3.3v+ 24/7

Kobalt

01-04-2005, 05:37 PM

My bad, i though that northbridges didnt really need watercooling...just a good aircooler. Thats what all the watercooling gurus have said... That its not worth the added flow resistance and added temperatures to the water. But if it gets to 60°C...then damn i guess it could use some watercooling

jikdoc

01-04-2005, 05:48 PM

i'm trans am's friend with the fusion, it's a great block. brass = no corrosion. comes in HL and SL versions, SL is slim, HL is fat. HL allows you to mount ramsinks, SL blocks 2 ram sinks where the barbs come out. from the looks of things as they sit in my rig, 2 HL's will probably fit in an sli rig as it takes up just about 2 card slots. if a 2 slot ultra can fit into an sli rig, then the fusion should fit. i'd definitely mount a fan over the cards with a zalman fan bracket to cool the memory, with or without ramsinks.

i don't think watercooling the nf3 chipset is worth it as it hardly gets warm, however, just from playing around with trans am's chaintech board, the nf4 chipset gets really hot compared to the nf3. i think cooling it would definitely help. i'm not sure what kind of nb blocks can fit underneath a mounted gfx card, i'm thinking maybe a fusion SL as its barbs aren't vertical, but horizontal to the plane of the motherboard.

xgman

01-04-2005, 05:56 PM

I can tell you this much, on this Asus SLI and MSI neo4 I have here the chipset gets pretty warm. Cooling it wouldn't hurt.

OPP

I would have thought that DFI would have at least put a lil fan on the chipset.

Skip

01-04-2005, 05:57 PM

you can make a current maze4 fit 6800's if you drill holes a couple holes in it as it is a couple mm's off from fitting correctly.

OPPAINTER

01-04-2005, 06:05 PM

I would have thought that DFI would have at least put a lil fan on the chipset.
They do have one.

"To provide rock solid stability, both nForce4 chipset based motherboards feature Japanese aluminum electrolytic capacitors, magnetic levitation north bridge cooling fan with fan speed control, and all aluminum heat sink on mosfets. "

OPP

ominae

01-04-2005, 06:35 PM

Ut mean the board only,like any other mb maker sell

the normal lanparty come with everything,cable,pc transpo,etc

So the UT boards don't come with anything? Just a motherboard in a box? Or is the bundle not as great (cable count wise)?

I've read UT being analagous to the INFINITY label in terms of bundling.

There is a NF4 cut down version which is the LANPARTY UT NF4 ULTRA-D
the main differences are that there is no SLI support and all the extra's
that you get in the LANPARTY series but still has PCI-E

The LANPARTY UT series is the same concept as there INFINITY series
but also include the UV mobo and cables nothing else, but still has high performance and is more cost effective

mdzcpa

01-04-2005, 07:12 PM

They do have one.

"To provide rock solid stability, both nForce4 chipset based motherboards feature Japanese aluminum electrolytic capacitors, magnetic levitation north bridge cooling fan with fan speed control, and all aluminum heat sink on mosfets. "

OPP

Damn Damn Damn....I want one of these boards!!

OPP, make sure you get some updates out quick when you get your sample up and running.

xgman

01-04-2005, 08:04 PM

Anyone getting a new PS with 24pin to use on this board? problems with the 20 to 24 converter?

choseone214

01-04-2005, 08:09 PM

Anyone getting a new PS with 24pin to use on this board? problems with the 20 to 24 converter?

any ocz PSU is 24pin ready. :)
420, 520, 600w and the new modable ones and on some boards you don't have to have a 24pin molex even though there are 24pin connecter on the board you can only use 20 of the 24.

joezxk

01-04-2005, 10:08 PM

Dose not anyone have reviews about lanparty nf4 yet？？？

Skip

01-04-2005, 10:54 PM

i'm waiting, i think a couple guys got the board yesterday, so some preliminary stuff i'm hoping will be up tomorrow.

notoriousformula

01-04-2005, 11:09 PM

PICTURES: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49580

notoriousformula

01-04-2005, 11:12 PM

Where is the proof of an nf3 DFI 939 board?

Check out this radio Interview, They talked about NF3 939 AGP board

NinjaLane has posted an on demand audio stream of a radio interview with DFI that mainly covers new LANPaty motherboards and the recently announced nForce4 Ultra and nForce4 SLI chipsets.

In this installment we feature an interview between myself and Vivian Lien from DFI where we discuss the new LANParty motherboards using the nForce4 Ultra and nForce4 SLI chipsets.

http://www.ninjalane.com:8000/content/DFI_Interview.pls

taco_fox

01-04-2005, 11:57 PM

well now that that's over with, when are the reasonably priced boards coming out?

Skip

01-05-2005, 12:19 AM

middle of next month i bet they will be around 200$.

zakelwe

01-05-2005, 12:24 AM

Because the nvidia chipset calls for the sli connector on the cards. Ati doesn't have that connector on the pcb. The ati chipset also needs a connector to enable the dual rendering this is so ati can basically do what nvidia is doing to compete with them. So The happy medium is the VIA k8t890 where all you need to enable the dual gpu rendering is a simple driver. All these damn chipsets trying to have a pissing contest with dual rendering. The best option IMO is VIA. Everyone wins.

Well as Ati is nowhere near producing the driver yet for using more than one card and rumour has it that it will be Q205 then at present you are only left with nvidia video cards to choose from anyway.

If you are going Sli then chipset speed is not really an issue, if you are going single card then feel free to go VIA, but considering the complete disaster that VIA have shown in the past trying to get AGP/PCI locks to work I would not feel confident them getting the PCIe lock to work either.

I had 3 via AMD K8 boards and eventually ended up with nforce3 , saying everbody wins with via rings very hollow in my experience.

Regards

Andy

NiCKE^

01-05-2005, 04:45 AM

Weee!!! Have pre-orderd one now :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :banana: :banana: :banana4: :banana4: :D :D

notoriousformula

01-05-2005, 04:57 AM

Weee!!! Have pre-orderd one now :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :banana: :banana: :banana4: :banana4: :D :D

Link?

thanks.

NiCKE^

01-05-2005, 05:01 AM

It's in sweden so I dont know if it's possible for you to pre-order from there but sure, www.overclockers.se :D

garetjax

01-05-2005, 05:55 AM

I can't wait to get my hands on this board. Seems like I just finished setting up my current rig and they just have to come out with another killer mobo :)

NiCKE^

01-05-2005, 06:06 AM

I pre-orderd the UT SLI board. I dont relly got use for the other stuff there comes with the other versions.

ante_ante

01-05-2005, 07:19 AM

I have ordered the DFI Lanparty nF4 SLI-DR and i will run it with a ATI X850XT PE. Would this combo work without any problem, or should i choose a other DFI NF4 board? Money is no problemo :banana3:

RAINFIRE

01-05-2005, 07:23 AM

I have ordered the DFI Lanparty nF4 SLI-DR and i will run it with a ATI X850XT PE. Would this combo work without any problem, or should i choose a other DFI NF4 board? Money is no problemo :banana3:

Where did you order it? What is the expected ship date?

Feiticeira

01-05-2005, 07:37 AM

Probably not much point paying the extra for SLI board with a x850 unless you plan on changing to nvidia any time soon?

Dave

[ r2 ]

01-05-2005, 07:39 AM

Exactly as you cannot run SLI with ATI for the time being :rolleyes:

Dirt

01-05-2005, 07:47 AM

I have preorderd a DFI Lanparty nF4 SLI-DR at www.overclockers.se. Worth to mention is that they ship to Denmark and Norway to.

The card I ordered cost 2095SEK / 6.75 = 310$

Expected shiping day 2005-01-29

perry_78

01-05-2005, 07:52 AM

Pre-ordered :D

Mine cost 2245SEK, coz of the shipping all the way to Denmark. Either way, it'll be here in February! I think i'm in the top10 pre-ordered, if not, then im screwed :p:

eva2000

01-05-2005, 08:01 AM

']Exactly as you cannot run SLI with ATI for the time being :rolleyes:
funny if it actually worked with 2x X850 hehe since no one's tried yet ?? :)

perry_78

01-05-2005, 08:24 AM

funny if it actually worked with 2x X850 hehe since no one's tried yet ?? :)

Yeh, but it would kick a$$!

trans am

01-05-2005, 08:27 AM

The interesting thing is that middle jumper between the 2 16x slots. If that thing is made so you don't need the little pcb bridge connector, then maybe DFI is on to something? I wish someone asked vivian about that during the interview.

b|gf|sh

01-05-2005, 08:39 AM

Available for pre-order in the UK here now :cool: - http://www.cpucitystore.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=648

perry_78

01-05-2005, 08:51 AM

Its funny, those stores which come first get everything :D

DTP in dk will have it online about 5 days, but shame im gone the next week! So it looks like overclockers.se will have first pick :)

ante_ante

01-05-2005, 08:54 AM

I changed my order to DFI lanparty UT nF4 Ultra instead because i´m gonna use ATI. No SLI or NVIDIA for me. Estimated date 29 january in sweden :cool:

computersmsa

01-05-2005, 08:56 AM

http://www.hpm-computer.de/hardware/mainboards/sockel939amd/index.html

Feiticeira

01-05-2005, 09:02 AM

funny if it actually worked with 2x X850 hehe since no one's tried yet ?? :)

I really do hope so but i wouldnt advise people to spend extra money on an SLI one unless we had some sort of evidence of any ati card working in any nforce 4 mobo which we dont.

Dave

Rudzer

01-05-2005, 09:27 AM

http://www.hpm-computer.de/hardware/mainboards/sockel939amd/index.html

I really hope those prices drop a bit and that availabilty becomes real soon...

computersmsa

01-05-2005, 09:40 AM

BackOrder, First german shop ... the price drop dows fast :D
15 day a go, Asus A8N SLI Deluxe -> 180€
139 € now ... :)

Rudzer

01-05-2005, 10:02 AM

Here its still around 165€ ;)

I guess the ultra will be around the 120€ or something like that when its broad available...

computersmsa

01-05-2005, 10:14 AM

germany is germany ;)
Not Portugal :(

Rudzer

01-05-2005, 10:24 AM

Pre-order available at OCuk *cough*
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Socket_939.html

computersmsa - the price diference is much smaller lately but it still "hurts" sometimes

perry_78

01-05-2005, 10:49 AM

Nice overclockers.co.uk are online.

Its too late for me though, i'm already pre-ordered :D

sUpervizer'

01-05-2005, 11:20 AM

Newegg is a little bit slow :\
and im drooling all over my computer from those pictures... :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

Feiticeira

01-05-2005, 11:47 AM

Well done OcUK, lets hope more places follow suit with a bit of a price war

Doumz

01-05-2005, 12:25 PM

Hum can't seem to find a supplier from Canada yet pre-ordering it ;(

perry_78

01-05-2005, 01:02 PM

Well done OcUK, lets hope more places follow suit with a bit of a price war

I'll pass on the price war. DFI motherboards have never been cheap, nor do i expect them to be cheap.

I'm getting the first one i can get my hands on, as long as its not more than $400.

Actually, even 400+ :D

I haven't had my computer for a long time now, i cant wait to get it back together. No way I'm waiting ANOTHER 2 months.

flexy

01-05-2005, 01:33 PM

people are willing to shell out $400 for a mobo (LOLOLOL) just based on hearsay ("dfi is a nice brand") - and NOT based on real reviews ?

Is there ANY real review of the dfi NF4 board yet ? I didnt see any...

idleuser

01-05-2005, 01:37 PM

wow 400+ that's killer even if it does have all the little extra "features" I still don't think it's worth it to me :) Maybe because i'm not hardcore enough eheh. But more power to you if you can shell out 400 bucks.

Kobalt

01-05-2005, 01:54 PM

its like 270 euros so like 350usd. not 400++

TysonM

01-05-2005, 02:06 PM

I have put off upgrading for far, far too long. [Vapochilled Athlon 1200/100 at 1466/133].

I am definitely upgrading this time no matter what, and this board looks extremely attractive! What I am trying to figure out is whether I am going for SLI or not.

At overclockers.com Ed mentioned something about how dual core CPU's may be better for SLI, if each core can be dedicated to each gpu. He brought this up because with SLI the scores seem heavily CPU dependant, and CPUs do not seem to be getting faster in speed anytime soon.

Does dedicating a core to each GPU sound like a good idea for the future, or was that statement in itself ridiculous? Just wondering about all your opinions since there are some pretty intelligent people on this forum..

xpr-k

01-05-2005, 02:21 PM

its like 270 euros so like 350usd. not 400++

206 according to that german shop, 170 for the UT non sli .
The ocuk store goes as low as 150 euro for non sli UT . Fair price imo

ominae

01-05-2005, 02:38 PM

SAE

01-05-2005, 02:39 PM

ocmyface

01-05-2005, 02:43 PM

the nmaybe ou can get a PSU for each core and gfx card

then once ram becomes a bottle neck. a gig of DDR2 for each core and gfx card

wow a midrange comp is going ot cost like 5000 in a year or two

Jethro

01-05-2005, 03:35 PM

For anyone highly interested in the AGP version of this board!

QUOTE:

Heres an answer i got from DFI TW

Dear Sirs,

Many thanks for your email.

Yes, DFI will have nF3 Ultra-D which support AGP version. The available schedule should be on/abt end of Feb.

Best regards,

Greta Kuo
Sales Manager

msn: greta@dfi.com.tw
Tel: 886-02-26942986 ext. 659
Fax: 886-02-26943221/3226

Dedicate Focus Innovation

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3865&perpage=15&pagenumber=8

Man im soooo glad i put my 939 upgrade off now! i dont care if the NF3 board doesnt have the heatsinks etc i put em on all my boards myself anyway :D

wow this is gonna rule if the agp board has 3.2v DDR as well!!!! man i hope so. :slobber:

_Eduard_

01-05-2005, 03:37 PM

Great! :toast:

Brum Man

01-05-2005, 03:42 PM

Just reassure me, there is going to be no difference in performance between the DFI LanParty UT NF4 SLI-D and the DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D is there, as I only want the Ultra as I will be getting an X850?

And I don't know what people are on about being expensive, the Ultra-D is only £105, compared to the MSI neo Plat 4 Ultra which is £130!!! ANd they DFI is going to own it. Even the SLI version is cheaper than the MSI.

Feiticeira

01-05-2005, 03:47 PM

if things go to 2 gpus on a card running sli that would be good news for everyone who gets the plain ultra board as it can still do that sli unless im misunderstanding.
I know what u mean about the waiting J but a pre order price war would be a nice thing, as u can still get it as soon as its available, although i dont see much chance of it happening.

Feiticeira

01-05-2005, 03:48 PM

no performance difference with an x850 between them no.

Demoulous

01-05-2005, 04:06 PM

Pre-order available at OCuk *cough*
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Socket_939.html

Now the 3500(90nm) just has to come back in stock across the UK and I'm sorted. Right I'm of to surf PCIe GFX card Pr0n and drool :D

My old A7N8X-D finally gave up the ghost and she needs a worthy successor.

Zebo

01-05-2005, 04:10 PM

Kobalt

01-05-2005, 04:50 PM

The external soundcard will FINALLY put an end to all the screeching and hissing in onboard sound. THANK YOU DFI.

Brum Man

01-05-2005, 04:54 PM

I know nothing about this onboard sound, is it actually any good? How does it compare to the old onboard sounstorm or and Audigy?

spaceman

01-05-2005, 05:11 PM

Actually, I believe it is Diamond Flower Inc.
;)
Yeah, that's a heck of a name, huh? :D ;) While it's probly very normal-sounding in Chinese, if they had a decent translator, they would have just said, "Look, that's too goofy for those spoiled Americans, let's change it." :eleph:

grimREEFER

01-05-2005, 06:28 PM

im still gonna take the gigabyte nf4 sli board over this one.
FIREWIRE 800 PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
that gives alot of cpu volts, but the mem only goes up to 2.8v
but it has firewire 800!!!!!!

ominae

01-05-2005, 06:41 PM

im still gonna take the gigabyte nf4 sli board over this one.
FIREWIRE 800 PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
that gives alot of cpu volts, but the mem only goes up to 2.8v
but it has firewire 800!!!!!!

whatever floats yer boat :toast:

conrad.maranan

01-05-2005, 06:44 PM

I have never used firewire in my life. I don't even know what it smells like. Therefore, DFI it is. :D

b|gf|sh

01-05-2005, 06:46 PM

I don't even know what it smells like.

lol :)

mdzcpa

01-05-2005, 07:02 PM

Firewire is dead. USB 2.0 kicked its butt.

grimREEFER

01-05-2005, 07:05 PM

i could have external hardrives faster than some internal hardrives
with firewire 800
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10491
(it has raid 0 too)
and it has S.O.S, which should mean u would never have to reset the cmos!!!
good for people with asthma and dusty cases :)

joezxk

01-05-2005, 09:10 PM

i want to have onehttp://img.pconline.com.cn/imagesimages/upload/bbs/2005/1/6/1/1/69/210/215/44/1104978040568.jpg
http://img.pconline.com.cn/imagesimages/upload/bbs/2005/1/6/1/1/69/212/7/126/1104978118525.jpg
http://img.pconline.com.cn/imagesimages/upload/bbs/2005/1/6/1/1/69/209/195/35/1104977969955.jpg

Skip

01-05-2005, 09:31 PM

hmm... what would you do with the frontx thing if you don't plan on putting it in a case?

ominae

01-05-2005, 09:52 PM

hmm... what would you do with the frontx thing if you don't plan on putting it in a case?

Nothing?

SEXY PICS!! :slobber:

Looks like an XP-90 may fit on it... dunno about an XP-120, looks very tight.

Skip

01-05-2005, 09:53 PM

i'll try and sell it on ebay for 5$, cuz i still want the extra 4 sata ports.

googles

01-05-2005, 10:05 PM

get the ut nf4 sli-dr?? still comes with 8 sata minus frontx and diagnostic led thingies

btw im glad that even the dfi nf4-ultra mobos come with the sli-bridge for some pseudo sli :D

ive checked the package contents in the manual for msi nf4-ultra mobo and no sight of sli-bridge...maybe this will make for an easier decision...

Skip

01-05-2005, 10:18 PM

oh totally forgot about the UT version.

i'm not even considering the msi neo4 plat anymore. at first i was because i was under the assumption that the DFI wasnt coming until april. now that its released and hopefully in places in the US in the next few weeks for reasonable price, i will be getting it for sure.

Jethro

01-05-2005, 10:46 PM

Just preordered the DFI NF4 SLI for a friend! http://www.computerhq.com/hardware/partinfo-id-532379.html

Also ordered to go with it:

6800GT EVGA PCI express (monarch)

and will be ordering this tomorrow from excalibur:

2x512 G-Skill pc4400
3200+ winnie
Antec Tru550 24pin

Im hoping the 550 will be enough for a possible future SLI. I told him he may want to wait and see if the one 6800GT is enough for him for now. Hes going from a asus KM400 amd mobo and a 5900xt after all :)

does this combo seem ok? thoughts before i push the spend button on ram/cpu/psu tomorrow? :)

at least i get to see one in action while i wait for the AGP board to come out anyway! :D

joezxk

01-05-2005, 10:54 PM

hmm... what would you do with the frontx thing if you don't plan on putting it in a case?

I have lanparty nf2 ultra b before

and this time the frontx is black fit my case :D

idleuser

01-05-2005, 10:55 PM

not bad on the antec :) you can't go wrong with either OCZ or Antec. the 3200+ winnie should do it but if you want to save 50 more dolalrs go with the 3000+ winnie. As for the G-Skill maybe someone can answer this it for you because i'm not sure myself. It's either BH5 or TCCD for me since the DFI has a 4volts on the vdimm.

perry_78

01-06-2005, 12:48 AM

Regarding reviews, the performance the DFI achieved on "coaler" is enough, i was sold the moment i saw DDR700 and Vcore2,1 :D

DaGoof

01-06-2005, 01:09 AM

Thank goodness for the NF3 - Really dont want to go about buying ANOTHER x800, after the trouble I had getting my hands on this one

*grumble*backorder for 2 months*grumble*

B5I8

01-06-2005, 02:09 AM

I'm really glad to see that some decent boards are being released for AMD. Now all we need are the vid cards to go with it. It's damn near impossible to get your hands on a half way decent vid card for PCI-E.

Rudzer

01-06-2005, 02:10 AM

Firewire is dead. USB 2.0 kicked its butt.

You need to buy yourself a clue...try to use USB to put digital movies on your pc and then comeback and tell us how it worked, among many other things...

JDizzle

01-06-2005, 02:13 AM

It comes with its own sleeving kit, how cool.

http://img76.exs.cx/img76/6281/11049779699558ai.jpg

L0$t Pr0PhEt

01-06-2005, 02:31 AM

All that junk, I only need the mobo itself :)

perry_78

01-06-2005, 02:31 AM

Yeh, the top range DFI boards come with sleeving kits :)

"David as this is a DFI board and is not related to Gigabyte at all; I am having this email answered by those in engineering and places of much more position than myself. The ability to do beyond what most 'other' brands of motherboard are capable of doing has "always" required a very competent and non-overrated power supply. That will not have changed with the coming of the NF4 to DFI.

24 pin power supplies are now required due to the change in ATX protocol for the NF4 boards and DFI will likely require the 24pin power supplies is my guess but we will wait for the reply from higher up, sir. XXX...
Sincerely,
XXX"

This is a mail from DFI tech. regarding the use of a 20pin PSU. looks like i'll need to get an OCZ PowerStream while im at it :(

idleuser

01-06-2005, 03:25 AM

could you just buy a 20 to 24pin powersupply convert?

mdzcpa

01-06-2005, 03:46 AM

try to use USB to put digital movies on your pc and then comeback and tell us how it worked, among many other things...

I have...my USB 2.0 worked great! Few digital camcorders haven't already moved to USB. Practically all digital cameras have.

Firewire is dead.

perry_78

01-06-2005, 03:53 AM

Obviously not. The extra four pins in the adapter are placebos. The 24pin includes an extra 3,3, 5 and 12. Something tells me that the DIMM slots are powered by one of these (either the 3,3V or 5V).

The adapter really defies the purpose of the added power to the PCIe slots and the extra ground cable.

At least i have a reason to upgrade from my 430W Antec to the OCZ PS520W :D

Demoulous

01-06-2005, 04:08 AM

At least i have a reason to upgrade from my 430W Antec to the OCZ PS520W :D

I'm debating whether to use that or the Antec NeoPower 480W as its 24pin and has the new cable management system where you plug in what you need and don't have to worry about the cable explosion.

Jasonhk

01-06-2005, 04:08 AM

I'm don't undestand why u can't use a 20 Pin Powersupply with a 20-24 pin converter. Surely it has to work

ominae

01-06-2005, 04:14 AM

I'm debating whether to use that or the Antec NeoPower 480W as its 24pin and has the new cable management system where you plug in what you need and don't have to worry about the cable explosion.

I'd consider something >= 500W, ASUS manual (yes I know its a DFI board) recommends >= 500W for SLI setup.

idleuser

01-06-2005, 04:18 AM

I'm don't undestand why u can't use a 20 Pin Powersupply with a 20-24 pin converter. Surely it has to work

I was thinking the same I checked online and various vendors/party are releasing a 20-24pin adapater.

NM I did some research and the PCIe motherboard requires a 6pin power as well... yay me... time to sell off my old psu for a new one.

perry_78

01-06-2005, 04:43 AM

I'm don't undestand why u can't use a 20 Pin Powersupply with a 20-24 pin converter. Surely it has to work

The 24pin converter does not split the 12V 3.3V and 5V +ground cables into the extra holes. On DFI-STREET ViperJohn and Angry Games discussed it in further detail, and supposedly the converter defies the point of the 24pin socket.

Some motherboards work fine with a 20pin (Gigabyte), but some, more demandinfg require a ATX2,0 based PSU, such as this DFI.

The OCZ has adjustable rails, i'll just do a sleeving job on it.

Rudzer

01-06-2005, 04:51 AM

I have...my USB 2.0 worked great! Few digital camcorders haven't already moved to USB. Practically all digital cameras have.

Firewire is dead.

LOL digital camcorders using USB2.0...perphaps we have a diferent idea of what a real digital camcorder is (you must be talking about that Mustek crap and such)

Anyway thanks for those posts, the are the funniest of 2005 so far ;)

Torin

01-06-2005, 05:36 AM

Kill the OT nonsense.... this is a DFI 939 thread, not an "I love my Gigabyte's Firewire 800" thread or a digital camcorder elitist thread.

notoriousformula

01-06-2005, 05:42 AM

Kill the OT nonsense.... this is a DFI 939 thread, not an "I love my Gigabyte's Firewire 800" thread or a digital camcorder elitist thread.

LOL..agreed

mrlobber

01-06-2005, 06:14 AM

The 24pin converter does not split the 12V 3.3V and 5V +ground cables into the extra holes. On DFI-STREET ViperJohn and Angry Games discussed it in further detail, and supposedly the converter defies the point of the 24pin socket.

Some motherboards work fine with a 20pin (Gigabyte), but some, more demandinfg require a ATX2,0 based PSU, such as this DFI.

Damn, this means my PCP&C 510W vanilla is now basically obsolete with the newer motherboards :cussing:

xgman

01-06-2005, 06:34 AM

It is my understanding that adapters will ship with most of the NF4 boards. I think onepage reported killing a coupole of PS's with the adapter though. Nonetheless I gave in and ordered a pcpc 510sli model.

Feiticeira

01-06-2005, 06:57 AM

whats the difference between the 4 extra pins on the end and the 4 pin connectors for p4s? Im looking on www.ebuyer.co.uk for a decent 24 pin psu, any advice?

Demoulous

01-06-2005, 07:39 AM

whats the difference between the 4 extra pins on the end and the 4 pin connectors for p4s? Im looking on www.ebuyer.co.uk for a decent 24 pin psu, any advice?

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=4321578837&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=64849 this was the only one that I could find that was not either utter junk or had only 20 pins on the main connector. The 4pin P4 connector is quite separate.

Even that PSU does lack the oomph that this has => http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/OCZ.html#aCA_2d011_2dOC <= seems to be your best bet and none of the budget crapola on ebuyer save that antec will get you a stable system on a mobo that needs the ATX12v 24pin.

HTH.

D_o_S

01-06-2005, 08:07 AM

I'd reccomend this to anyone:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2561&osCsid=0a8738182f202dc9f37627cf61de6ec2

perry_78

01-06-2005, 08:13 AM

Damn, this means my PCP&C 510W vanilla is now basically obsolete with the newer motherboards :cussing:

Not with all motherboards. The gigabyte officialy supports it as far as my knowledge goes. However, the DFI as far as i can comprehend from the Tech Support, does not. Upgrading to the DFI has already cost me way too much :(

All together, going from my AXP - NF7-S revision 2.0 - 1024 Corsair 3200XLPT - Gainward 6800GT G/S - Antec TruePower 430W, cost me about €500, coz i cant afford a new 6800GT, i'll have to stick with an inconceivably :banana::banana::banana::banana: 6600GT untill next XMAS.

Of course my Case-Mod projects are going to have to wait as i cant even afford the Lian-Li i wanted :stick:

Anyway, enough blabering, there is NO WAY i am frying a €300 motherboard. Looks like no upgrades untill next XMas, even my job doesnt pay this well. This board better be the best of the best of the best of THE BEST (which im sure it will), otherwise I'm onto a stampede screaming and cursing the name of god :p:

b|gf|sh

01-06-2005, 08:19 AM

Dunno if this photo has been posted yet, but saw this over at ocuk forums: -

http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/Boxbackshowoff.jpg

Check out the removable sound board there, and also comes with an SLI bridge (thought DFI didn't need one :confused: )

Feiticeira

01-06-2005, 08:23 AM

Cant u just sell al your old stuff to fund a nice new graphics card for the new system? I'm sure u could get a fair bit for the 6800gt AGP.

perry_78

01-06-2005, 08:29 AM

Cant u just sell al your old stuff to fund a nice new graphics card for the new system? I'm sure u could get a fair bit for the 6800gt AGP.

I did. The extra costs are the price difference between the sale/new items and the upgrade.

The whole previous system has been sold apart from the Antec. This has already been extravangantly expensive, but then again, its better to upgrade now bamm! than to slowly put the pieces together. Sometimes I think i chose the wrong hobby. Dell aint too shabby after all :p: :bs:

notoriousformula

01-06-2005, 08:42 AM

p4z1f1st

01-06-2005, 09:05 AM

what the hell is this sleeving kit? :confused:

never heared of it

b|gf|sh

01-06-2005, 09:06 AM

what the hell is this sleeving kit? :confused:

never heared of it

For sleeving your psu cables so your case looks nice n tidy ;)

xgman

01-06-2005, 09:21 AM

Alright guys, fight's over before they close the thread.

Back on topic, I heard today that now DFI now expects their US shipment on 1/24.

perry_78

01-06-2005, 09:22 AM

DK is 30/01/2005 :D, and sweeden is a day before :D

del_fuego

01-06-2005, 09:35 AM

OcUk reckon they'll have their boards for shipment in on the third week in January, we'll see eh.

grimREEFER

01-06-2005, 12:30 PM

I have...my USB 2.0 worked great! Few digital camcorders haven't already moved to USB. Practically all digital cameras have.

Firewire is dead.
firewire 800 kicks usb 2.0's ass.
by ALOT
firewire 400 was just as fast as usb 2.0, and firewire 800 is double the speed of both

giorgioprimo

01-06-2005, 12:39 PM

Hi,
I'm planning to buy this mobo but I have some dubt.
I alwais owned ATI vga but last year I bought a 6800 gt and a 6800 ultra from xfx. I wasn't not confortable with them so I already sold the GT and I'm selling the ultra .
I have an x800@xtpe on mine regular rig, and already have an x800xt pci-x waithing for an pci-x mobo, but I would like to run it in sli mod for the nex future.
I read all the 3d and it seems there is no way to run ati in sli mode on this mobo, anyboy have some more news about that?
The other prob is about the power supply, I have an antec true-control 550, and I'm really happy with it, so do I need to change it for an OCZ? no way to use it with a 20-24 pin adaptor?

Sorry for my english

FallenAngel

01-06-2005, 12:40 PM

firewire 800 kicks usb 2.0's ass.
by ALOT
firewire 400 was just as fast as usb 2.0, and firewire 800 is double the speed of both
Ei I thought OT was also dead

D_o_S

01-06-2005, 12:46 PM